Parking Lot Infraction Turns Into A Gunfight
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When I'm on my knees with my hands on my head at gun point, I always instinctively dive into the back seat of a car to retrieve doublement chewing gum.
Whenever I'm on my knees at gunpoint, I instinctively think of how much money I'll be awarded when this video gets subpoenaed.
@@montezuma6962 You'll be awarded with nothing if that happens outside of a Democrat shithole.
Seriously lol
Lmao 😂
He was going for a snickers bar becuase he’s not him when he’s hungry
Man, this is the kind of sh*t that happens every time we go out with Russell.
LMAO!!!!
Hahahahahahahaha fucking Russell man
Russell’s shiesty
Lolol you idiot hahaha
Fucn russell
Even the friends were like wtf are you doing Russell?? DON'T REACH FOR ANYTHING Just listen and comply geez!
He could see how jumpy the cops were, so running and grabbing something in the car was almost deadly.
Almost Darwin Awards 2023, honorable mention.
Yea what was that? Seems like some sort of ocd tick to make you jump like that towards the car just to get your phone and wallet when you know there’s cops aiming guns at you
Doesn't even matter. The cops created the whole thing. Why thafuq did they leave him uncuffed kneeling by the car while he slowly backed away keeping him in shooting-day-at-the-range distance so he can have a nothing chat on his radio. Did you not notice that was fcking stupid?
There’s always that one person that fucks up the night because he has no ID
Jumpy? Try switched on. Oh look surprise, surprise... knucklehead was illegally carrying a concealed firearm. 🙄
My first thought was definitely that he was reaching for another firearm. Weird one.
Exactly
Oh yeah. Running back into the car for something without saying anything while you’re being held on your knees at gunpoint has got to be one of the highest IQ moves of all time
@@huntertoledo8989 He was being tested on whether or not to win a Darwin Award. He almost did.
🤣🤣
Yeah the kid screwed up. Even if the kid had no intentions in hurting the cops; cops already got strong reasonable suspicion to defend themselves when proved that the vehicle subjects are either armed or could be armed. Kid had a gun illegally on him so that is super beyond reasonable suspicion already.
When I moved to Phoenix from California long ago, I heard the gun laws were a lot more relaxed and that you could have a firearm in you vehicle, but I was a little skeptical comming from the People's Republic. I happened to see PPD officer in a QuikMart when I was getting gas and I asked him if it was legal carry in my car, and he said it wasn't a problem. Next I asked if it could be loaded and chambered. He just laughed and said, "it won't do you much good if it isn't." That's when I knew moving there was the right decision.
Love this sounds like you made the right move! That loaded gun on your seat could save your or someone else's life one day don't ever forget to bring it with you!! (No sarcasm in this statement what so ever)
I don’t think Arizona is the right move lol, Arizona is a trash fest
@@pimas11 not like cali that's for sure
THIS VARIES GREATLY BY STATE
Many, many states consider a loaded gun in a vehicle to be "concealed"
In these states, the ammo needs to be separate from the weapon during "transport"
@@pimas11 compared to Cali it's a paradise
Texas cop: “ you got a gun?” Man: “yes sir”. Cop:”OK, you don’t touch yours and I won’t touch mine”
Always had em be jumpy as hell if I told em I have a gun in the locked glovebox acting like I’m going to pull on em or something
Literally exactly what happened to me in AZ when I got pulled over in October. :)
Police helciopter flies above, AC 130 gunship flying in the atmosphere, orbital canon focused on the position. Eyy listen, you do nothing and nothing happens mehn. *RED BUTTON WRITTEN NUKE*
Texas cop: “do you have a gun?”
Texan: “Yes.”
Texas cop: “How many?”
Texan: “Not sure.”
@@ActiveSelfProtection Cheers from Sun City.
Not a gunfight, just a shooting.
Says a guy from his couch.
@@XX-166 What?
@@XX-166 I don't think sitting on your couch makes your statement irrelevant. He's not wrong.
@@dylonjackson8863 Yep...don't feed the trolls
@@XX-166 I'm on the toilet
I got pulled over by state troopers in Texas a few years ago in my crew cab pickup truck with my son in the back in a booster seat. I had a tactical 12 gauge, a .45 pistol, and a couple scary black rifles with me. The trooper asked me if I had any firearms in the vehicle. I answered "yes". He wrote me a warning for a sticker being out and we all left safely.
And that’s is exactly how it should go👍👍
It’s a real shame that there are so many “heroes” in the world that need to try & prove how tough they are & then want to blame everyone else for the outcome
I know for a fact you're not black because here in Texas state troopers are some of the biggest profilers And if I were driving the same truck and gave the same answers they would have asked to search my truck And if I told them no they would have called a K9... I'm speaking from experience lol.
@@ekbanks It did surprise me. I am brown. I've been searched and K-9nd before. At the time I had a really nice truck and a cute kid in the back seat. I think between that and the grey beard, old man look I have, he just decided I was harmless.
@@bignateesquire lol I'm 44 now and my profiling days were between the ages of 27 and i'd say 37... I'm low-key upset now that I don't get pulled over as much as though they don't think I'm a threat😡 lol.... They need to still respect my gangsta!
@@grandam lol man I absolutely HATE tx state troopers. Whenever I speak about the racism I've experienced in my life they compromise 60 to 70% of it lol.
To be fair, the handicapped parking spot wasn't well marked. Lol
Totally agreed and it looked as if the blue parking block wasn't even in line with the actual spot itself. That lot looked pretty messed up.
Minorities think the law doesn't apply to them. The Family Express down the road from me has a _few_ blue spots but perfectly able-bodies black people and some Mexicans park there and leave the engine running. It's too much to have them walk an additional ten feet. Meanwhile, some old lady with a cane has to go around the building and walk from there.
@@DareToBeDeviant What about those that cross a busy street without looking either way....almost begging you to him them!!
@@DareToBeDeviantsuck a kicd
@@anthonyvera8524 I actually have accelerated when people do that. Crosswalks are close enough together so there's no excuse not to use them. Growing up in the 90s, my generation was told ad nauseam to 'stop, look, and listen' in conjunction with 'look both ways'. Is self preservation not a thing anymore?
Russell: “just trying to make it home tonight”
several moments later: Russell diving into the backseat of a car after officers find a firearm on him as thought he was going for something and gets shot.
Dammit Russell!
He was scared and wanted to grab his wallet and run
Classic Russel.
@@steveescher1554 so u want the officers to risk their lives for some dumas to shoot them
Russell not built like that to attempt a run. Tbh if he was the other guy maybe.
He seemed very nervous
It must be so terrifying to be sitting there not knowing what's happening. CHOOSE YOUR FRIENDS WISELEY. KNOW WHO IS WHO.
The chick saying, " You've gotta be strong" right before he jumped back in the car? Was she signaling him? Hmmm.🤔
Fear the police.
@@davefletch3063if we fear them we wont have any protection at all and this country would go to hell
@@lilexplosivediarrhea6061 you dont have any protection. The police's job isnt to protect you. It is to enforce the laws of the state through any means within their training structure. They are under no legal obligation to stop a bad guy from beating you down or murdering you, even if they are right there. There has even been a court ruling stating so. The police protect nobody but themselves and their fellows in blue. They are more like hunters, and the people are their prey. They seek out targets to harass until they can get them to violate a code so they can use force to detain them. They killed a kid for eating hamburger in a parking lot...
Police need better training to avoid this mishap. Big boy is dumb as hell. Still, if he's not shooting, Police shouldn't have shot him.
"Do you have a valid DL?"
"No" but i have a gun..
It's so weird how some people insist on turning small inconveniences/problems into something MUCH bigger and worse.
@@willlicks8584 you mean the guy who told the cops he had a gun, and then ran into the car after already being told not to move while guns were pointed at him?
Pull your head out of the sand
Yeah humans are stupid
@@willlicks8584 I'm just gonna convince myself you're trolling because I can't convince myself that you're being sincere.
@@willlicks8584 yo wtf its one thing to have a gun and another to be caught with a gun and not follow instructions, me and you arent that stupid to run into a car when officers are pointing guns at you ordering you to move away from a vehicle
@@dylonjackson8863 Right? Will Licks the type of person to see a guy get pulled over for a broken taillight, the driver pulls a gun and shoots at the cops, then the cops shoot back and kill the driver, and Will's the type to post on all his social media how the cops murdered the driver in cold blood over a broken taillight. Clown World.
Dude in the back seat has zero idea how to keep it calm cool and collected 😂
The handicapped spot violation was just a pretext. The cops rolled up on them because there were four people sitting in a car late at night. They were looking for dope or illegal firearms.
And they found one of the two. Imagine that. ;-)
And the driver had no driver license or ID , Russell should have told him he had a firearm as well
And they found it thatks for the officers doing their job
@@k9er233 did they specify if the gun itself was illegal? It sounds like he got charged with carrying a firearm without a CCW
@@antonyjh1234 so when the police encounter someone driving without a license they should just leave well enough alone, I guess. Might as well have that attitude for all crimes, and let frontier justice and Lynch mobs do their thing.
Choose your friends/people you hangout with wisely.
They did nothing wrong
That was good police intuition!
He’s lucky he didn’t get turned into Swiss cheese!
I ran with a guy when I was a teenager who would always get in trouble. Had to stop hanging out with him. That dude in the back passenger seat reminds me a lot of this dude.
I think the fact that the driver had no drivers license, registration or even an ID caused the officer ask him to get out to find out more about him.
Right. That one thing, parking in a handicap spot, turned into no license, insurance, registration, etc.
This is personally the activity I want from police. Turning over the dark spots to see what turns up.
UnFortunately Russell was an idiot, but his belly stopped the round.
@@maximus-hl9jwnah you must be stupid either ways how the fuck you think they got their by flying? They had to have driven their and in the end he was driving without a license.
@@maximus-hl9jw doesn't mean anything, if the cars in and he's in the driving seat he is driving without a license
@@maximus-hl9jw I assume you are trying to say wasn't. Being in a parked vehicle in the driver's seat while it's running, especially in a parking lot, is viewed legally as driving it. Lots of people have gone away for "just sitting," in a vehicle, but I'm honestly not mad because 4000 pounds of steel doesn't teleport, and some motherfuckers are absolutely wasted.
@@maximus-hl9jw , he was park in handicap spot. That was the reason they asked him for his license he doesn't have it, nor does he have the car registration.
I agree 100 percent you both of your assessment of this situation. Both parties made mistakes and it could have got someone killed. Good lessons to learn from this one.
I got pulled over a few years back, legit ran a red light. It was raining and my truck was loaded heavy with sac-crete, tried to stop, but went into a skid so let off the brake and accelerated. I stopped in a Bob Evans parking lot. The officer approached the truck and I gave him my DL, CCW, registration and proof of insurance as I had it all gathered while pulling into the lot. He examined the documents and asked if I had a weapon in the truck. I said yes I do. He asked me where it was and I told him it was in the center console. He said and I quote "If you don't pull yours, I won't pull mine"...I looked him dead in the eye, knowing he had plenty of time to check my plates and me, and said..."Relax officer, I am not going to start a gun fight over a traffic ticket" he let me off with a warning and I bought him a coffee. It was cold, raining and early in the day. Nothing but respect for those that look at the underbelly of society everyday and try to keep us safe.
😎👍
You must be white, because if you were black and the officer saw the CCW, he would've executed you immediately.. according to what I read on social media, anyway 🤔
@mitchkinney7662
Sounds like that cop was itching to escalate by saying that BEFORE he ran your plates...No such thing as good cops today...
@@watershed44 don’t lie to yourself there are good people and bad people and a badge doesn’t decide that
I've always thought if asked (we have no duty to volunteer) that I'd say "Yes, and I have no intent of harming you or anybody."
hes right about az. middle of the night about an hour north of phoenix. my car was stranded in a sketchy spot of road and i asked police for help. we were cool the whole time until i realized i was concealing still. i let him know and he was like " youre good man" we talked and i ended up putting it in my trunk whike he was there. i was respectful and dude was cool.
I lived close to that area, and man the local gang there is such a nuisance. Just constantly letting the neighborhood know that they run the town. And they really do. No real consequences for anything really. An area where most people do whatever they want and throw fits when caught. Living in that area, especially these last few years, made me realize that adults are just tall children in need of constant parenting... I don't think people realize what living in the hood is really like, and why a strong police presence is necessary in those areas....I did eventually leave, being constantly stared at by other guys was just weird.
thats not a gang, theyre just posers and wanna-be’s
that area is overrun with gangs. And "don't judge a book by it's cover" you literally can't tell with some of these guys.
What area is this? Just curious
@Casa Cerda Nuevo España no criminal record? 🤣🤣🤣 but he has one now ,that well manoured Latino! 🤣
And news flash ,you can be criminal WITHOUT A RECORD!
@Casa Cerda Nuevo España And how would the police have known anything about the occupants of the vehicle? Police have to deal with what they know, not what they may know in the future. I don't know exactly where this occurred, but IIRC, much of the Harbor Division is pretty sketchy crime-wise.
"Just take the ticket" - Best advice ever
Were they even arguing the ticket? Why have everyone get out of the car over a parking ticket?
@@jayjaynella4539 I got many tickets and have friends who took way more. Every single one of them either got dismissed or reduced to a lower charge at court. Fight your ticket at court, there's no way being aggressive with the cops on the streets will do you any good under any circumstances.
Only thing was, that wasnt an option, especially for the passengers. Now I can understand the detention of the driver since he didnt have id, however it seemed the rest of the passengers had their ids and were willing to give them to the officers.
I dont think the officers had probable cause to get everyone out of the car so I dont think the possesion charge should hold up for the guy even though he most likely is a minor or under 21 (assuming from the portrait id). I think a decent lawyer would be able to argue that, even with the officer safety aspect in mind. I also dont know if Bruen applies to those under 21 for handguns.
I would say I could agree to fleeing or obstruction charges, even though a lawyer would probably still argue pc.
I would say the officer was justified in the shooting after the fact, and had very good self control not unloading on the guy especially after he was moving around after being shot. But the guy was incredibly stupid for lunging for the car, especially considering how large of a target he is.
But the "just take the ticket" advice is great for a regular traffic stop. Argue in court. But I dont recall any argueing over the initial stop in this video. There was some bickering after the cops found the gun and it was hard for me to tell, but it seems as though a passenger was telling other ones to chill and comply.
@@godbyone Exactly. Most cops treat people like hardcore criminals at the slightest sign of agitation or even without it. Just take the ticket and have your day in court, not on the street with those thugs.
@@jayjaynella4539 yeah a 100 dollar fine that you have months to pay off is totally worth getting bullets flying
Dude is so lucky they didn't cook him with the entire mag... Russel was definitely not tryna make it home.
And LAPD proving again and again it’s cooler to have a radio in your hand than on your belt. After all, why would you want to have your hands free?
I guess Mike and John figured they busted on these cops enough, and chose not to bring up the hand-held radios again...
@@kentd4762 It's pretty much every video they're tell Officers to get off their diary (radio) and get in the fight.
I knew it was LAPD as soon as I seen the radio in handS.
You guys forget that in New York City, the son of Sam was caught because of a ticket that was put on his car while it was parked!!!!!!!!
What does that have to do with anything? Being a passenger in a vehicle is against the law? Now mind you knowing what happened, everything is under the microscope.
This is definitely not 2 rookie ass cops broke the crime of the century in finding a guy while the vehicle he was in was parked incorrectly.
Because of the 'son of sam' we should all be violated?
Oh Russell, Russell, Russell! You just got a new belly piercing free of charge! Well done gentleman! ❤️😅
2:24 - Whenever someone tries to make small talk with a LEO, he is almost always hiding something...
More often than not. Some people are just chatty though.
I think it's less often then true alot of people get nervous around cops
The dudes in the back has been through this drill before
Right he should know better
Totally agree with Mike. This appears to be an illegal search and seizure of the passengers. Charges against the passenger should be thrown out. A civil law suit should be filed.
It is absolutely absurd how some people choose to handle situations like this. At least here in Texas a good majority of the populace will be carrying. As long as you communicate and show respect to the officer/s 90% of the time you get off with a warning. Even if you don’t get a warning take the ticket anyways as there is a high chance it gets thrown out .
In my experience, there is more like a 90% chance that the cops will bully, intimidate and interrogate someone until they say something to incriminate themselves. They would've demanded ID from both passengers in the car (which those people do NOT have to provide) and run them through their names through the system to see if they could find any way to get them into handcuffs and behind bars. Every arrest a cop makes means one more step up the company ladder and a fatter paycheck for them. If you think they are concerned about you and your life, you're sorely mistaken.
@@BackwoodsFilms It seems heavily dependent on the department. I got pulled over doing 70 in a 45 (not a residential area) and the cop could have suspended my license and had my car towed but he let me go with a warning.
The thing is, the kid never said he had a gun, if you are carrying, that's the first thing you tell the offier, another thing, it wasn't even in a holster or anything, it was on his damn pocket, and lastly, he got shot after he jump to the back of the car to try and grab something after a damn gun was found on him.
@@MzAbbyxz right, people never lie.........like to sell a bridge to you, interested?
@@MzAbbyxzfirst of all there was no need to check them 🤦♂️
The whole reason they were pulled out is questionable but what the hell was that kid thinking getting up quickly and Diving towards an Open Door in a car? that was a stupid move
California was gonna attempt to make him a felon because he was exercising his 2A rights. He wanted to grab his wallet and phone before taking off so they wouldn't be able to track him down if he got away. I say "was" due to the fact that no probable cause existed to search him so the charges won't stick. I wish he understood that before making that move
When he said for her not to film, I would’ve said GFY.
ALWAYS FILM THE COPS.
A long-haul trucker buddy of mine got a parking lot infection once and we'll never let him live it down.
Underrated
Yeah, those lizards can make you all scaley
Y’all are in Arizona? I’m in Tucson too! And yes I can confirm, the police here expect you to be armed, we also don’t have to inform either if we are armed unless asked. It’s beautiful.
They also question your intelligence if you don’t carry one in the chamber. Lol
Same here in KY, most officers just assume you're armed, but most of them do make the statement "I assume you've got a firearm, do you?" or something like that because now in KY and neighboring Ohio you're no longer required to have a concealed carry permit to carry a concealed weapon.
@@CrakkerJaks I live in Commiefornia where they step all over our 2A. I have been waiting for Los Angeles Sheriff to process my CCW for over 6 months.
“Don’t tell me the crime; show me the man and I’ll find the crime.” - Stalin
I’m actually incredibly surprised that guy didn’t get mag dumped by these officers which could most certainly use more experience and training; however kudos to them for the display of trigger discipline and showing restraint in that regard. Also I’m not sure if it was intentional to shoot his hand and not center mass either but regardless that guy is lucky to be alive.
I'm glad they didn't mag dump but those cops are way to jumpy to be effective police officers. I bet they don't realize the charges for illegal carrying will stick due to the illegal search of the passenger without probable cause
@@milserpentine dude do you hear yourself?
@@milserpentine they're better police officers than some of these officers out there.
@@milserpentine Exactly these cops belong behind a counter or serving some coffee in a drive through. Absolutely no where near authority position or carrying a firearm .I was never this jumpy working patrol in shitty neighborhoods at night .
@@milserpentine You are a tard. Once they had reasonable suspicion on the driver every passenger in the car was open game to be pulled out, ID'd and patted down for officer safety. If you think for one second the police wouldn't feel the desert eagle on dumb shit then you are beyond help.
"I've never been arrested in my life officer" oh boy how that's about to change.
😂drastically
It will also lead to a lost court case because it was a unlawfull search and seizure
@@niklaslund2204 no it won't and it wasn't unlawful. you criminal's are all the same
@@lovecheese45 Nah just thinking logically. Alot of that happens where it gets to court and they lose.
He's gonna be richer for sure
Officer: “You’re illegally parked in a handicapped parking spot”
Perp: “Wow!! Really? What’s next? You expect us to stop at stop signs and signal on lane turns?!??”
This is LAPD, most people don't have conceal permits because it is almost impossible to get a ccw here in LA, most LAPD are new officers and need more training, what bothers me is that a lot of departments have a "we have to identify everyone" and "we have to get everyone out of the car for officer safety" which these officers had no probable cause
Are you not allowed to carry concealed in your vehicle anyways? idk LA laws, but where I live, you can carry concealed in your house, vehicle, and place of business without a ccw. That right extends to to people lawfully in those spaces when the owner is ok with them doing so, aka your buddies can carry in your car.
I guess it isn't surprising coming from LA though, or CA in general. Hopefully the US military goes in and reclaims that state some time soon, because it's clearly a different country at this point.
@@flyingtentacle7631 Exactly. Getting a CCW in LA is extremely challenging. This guy is clearly going to jail for carrying illegally in LA. So many Police Officers have been shot in traffic stops in LA lately, that LA Officers know that they are likely going to end up shot if they are not careful. So the take here seems basically to be that if LA Officers avoid making Policing stops like this one, that they will reduce their risk LOL. Getting illegal guns off the street in LA is exactly what Police Officers in LA are supposed to do to reduce shootings among this exact age group seen here.
@@flyingtentacle7631 no generally in places where ccw are permitted the gun needs to be safely locked away in the vehicle, and many places also say it needs to be holstered and locked away typically in the glove compartment. super stupid imo.
It’s so sad.. The LAPD used to be looked at as heros and among the best of the best.. In fact Los Angeles used to be looked at in a good light… Now it’s universally looked at as a criminals paradise.. Cops aren’t allowed to do their jobs properly.. Nobody is starting businesses in LA, Nobody is traveling to LA, It’s ran by criminals and politicians that care more about criminals than they do the general public.. I’m from Oregon and had a friend that attended UCLA, I traveled down to his graduation and we went to dinner where my car was broken into my GPS stolen, over 100 in cash and they tore my rear view mirror off just because. 22 years in Oregon that had never happened to me..
The car was parked illegally, which allows for a ticket. He asked for ID and the driver had no ID; another violation. Everyone was acting twitchy and the woman kept talking sh*t. So, yes, he had probable cause.
Agreed ! Unnecessary stop just to see what’s going on in the car. Illegally parked does not justify a felony stop.
That's an excuse used by people that have things to hide. Those officers used their insight and discretion to correctly assume they were up to no good. They were literally right.
@GrimNephilim they're not allowed to fish for crimes. Follow on charges can happen but these dudes used illegal parking to go way further.
@@sarutobi43 How are you gonna respond with the same exact response I responded too. What am I supposed to do repeat myself to you?
Don't fish for problems to make a problem. Back in the 70s cops were pretty cool. You respect them. You are pretty straight up and they make you empty your bag of weed and pour out any alcohol that you aren't old enough to posses and they'd send you on your way. Damn I miss those days but for very different reasons.
Late at night in a parking lot, four people in a car, parked in the wrong spot, in an almost empty carpark, out front of a convience store. The policemen felt something was up and followed their instincts, probably thinking these guys were about to rob the shop they were sitting in front of, and used the handicapped parking violation as a pretext for investigating further. To cut a long story short though, the dude got shot because he did the stupidest thing imaginable in that situation.
what crime he committed? and the punishment for it was death penalty or life time in jail?
@@pak3ton 🤣🤣🤣 are you serious? 🤣🤣🤣 well they just shot RUSSELL the one with high IQ ...
His charges are gonna be dropped,they had no reason too frisk the passenger. 4th Amendment violation, fruit from the poisonous tree
@@jimstand you have no idea what a troll is. You are mad that I spoke the truth. Tell me why I’m wrong
Slam dunk for any civil rights attorney
This reminds me of the meme videos where the guy pulls his wallet out as fast as he can to “not waste the officers time” 😂 how to get shot 101
Russell: “Just trying to make it home”
Looked like you were trying to make it to heaven buddy
I thought that maybe it could have been a death by cop attempt. I mean, who dafuq does that???
That can still be considered home😅
LAPD always looking for any excuse to fine anyone here in LA.🤣🤣
In idaho, they act the same way. "Just don't touch it." I've also always got a warning when carring. The 2 times I've been pulled over without my gun, I got tickets. Probably coincidence but I find it interesting.
Zero brain cells.
Parking in a handicapped here in upstate New York at 3am is a damn good reason for a cop to pull up. They are definitely thinking it's dwi or something along them lines.
“It was an unnecessary stop.” Officers use this as probable cause to make contact with the car. Maybe they were looking for something.
Wow, really thought you guys would go the other way with this one.
This is why this channel is so great. Straight on facts and events, no stereotyping. Although I do think stereotyping is part of having good situational awareness
@@jimstand The ones who initially broke the law here are these officers, so yeah you're probably right.
@@jimstand Yeah, I stand corrected.
But a parking violation never warrants an arrest, even the officers don't know if they had those ppl under custody. Which is why they fished until they could find something. Although it didn't take long to actually discover something, those ppl just chillin really shouldn't been searched for a parking violation. If the video is the only proof we have, then it looks wrong to me on the officers part but idk if they got called there or not.. which changes the situation entirely.
They were spot on with this one
There was no way that cop should have been able to even ask the boy in the back seat anything in the first place. There was no crime this man was even remotely a part of. He was in the back seat
Pro tip. Cops can ask you anything they want, they can even lie to you. But you have to right to not answer them.
It’s ironic how many viewers don’t want to have a criminal record yet they ask why did he gets his phone and wallet? 😂
How could John and Mike miss the fact that the drive had no license not just no license on him, when the officer asked if he had a valid license the driver said no. That was the probable cause to detain and search the vehicle before it gets towed. Not like John to miss such a blatant detail
Nor did the passenger do the reasonable thing and disclose to them that he was carrying before they had to discover it on their own.
The officer would have to prove that driver was operating the vehicle on a public road to use “no license” as a probable cause. The police simply stopped behind them while they were parked in an illegal stall. This was not a traffic stop.
I just came from watching a video where he called it "die by suicide" when it obviously wasn't. You have to take this channel with a grain of salt. He masks himself as being about self-protection when it's really just a way to post videos of police interactions and other crime videos.
@@RandomPlayIist The video he shows is usually about 25% of the video he uploads. What is he doing for the rest of it? The answer to that is going over the self-protection or LEO actions in the video to make people make better decisions.
They are in a car and the cop blocked them so he clearly initiated a stop. You can't do that without Probable cause nor is it legal to start a stop without probable cause and than fish for it. This is like second grade my math class 😂 easy
Police came there looking for a gunfight
lol, all of this could have been avoided by simply not parking in a disability spot, like there's almost no cars in the parking lot
buncha idiotas
@@willlicks8584 how many brain cells did you lose
@@camrinblocker5375 No kidding. Too many.
Shows the intelligence of these fools ...
@@willlicks8584 sure, but these kind of people develop a habit for parking in disability spots unless you ensure that they're aware of it early.
Police aren't always going to be around when someone unqualified takes up a disability spot.
I really respect John's unbiased opinions never picking side's because of race, authority, or class. Real stand up Guy! If all cop's were like him america would be so much better.
How about if more criminals were like him there would be less crime? Bet you live in Austin....
Dude thought he was gonna be lightening and get his phone real quick til he heard and felt the thunder😂😂 Aye, your leaking bro!
the guy got shot for diving back into the car after the already took a gun away, how did they know he was not jumping back in to get another gun to have a shoot out with them don't second gess what the cop are thinking its there job to keep everyone safe plain and simple
They’re not questioning the shooting bud. They’re questioning the events that lead up to the shooting.
nobody did. if you listen to them talk they said the exact same thing.
@@Ward413 in that case sorry i am from the UK so don't see the news from over there only what i see on TH-cam i did not mean any disrespect
@@martindiver9608 You’re good man, no need to apologize. In American law enforcement, precontexual stops are often used to fish for more stuff. There’s a large debate around it. Nearly every study shows it doesn’t reduce crime and it just makes the community dislike police. So I think that’s where John was coming from.
Context means a lot, what part of town? Crime in area? Parking was an red flag. Time of day?
russell with that small talk reminds me of inmates trying to make small talk in order to try to get away with things.
Looked like a proactive intervention detainment in a high gang/crime zone. Use what they have to make contact and see what they find. Like concealed weapons or wanted people.
Aren't those highly illegal without probable cause to search like in this case?
Not illegal probable cause established to contact Via parking infraction. Pat down is not a search under the law.
@@aaron5821 This video will get in front of a jury for sure. 4th amendment violation. Settlement incoming
My assumption on initiating a "stop" on this minor infraction was more on the suspicion of an impending robbery of the store they were parked in front of. Yes, things could have been done differently to tilt the odds in favor of LE, but honestly, isn't that always the case?
The “ pending robbery “ may have been possible but I used to live in the particular city this occurred in and there is a 711 directly next door to the store they were parked at so maybe other reasons for a stop besides them being parked in a handicap space
Regardless of the outcome and everything that went on, and I feel bad that the dude had to go through that. But, one shot straight to his hand to stop him from picking something up, IN A BUBBLE was a fantastic shot. Terrible idea from the guy and for the officers, but just the shot alone and taking everything else away and the context, was an impressive shot.
The only think I can think of for the stop is if they thought that the parking in the handicap zone was a prelude to a robbery ( Since Its closest entrance) . Although looking at that parking lot I don't think you can even make out the handicapped parking clearly at night.
Thinking about robbing a store isn't a crime though. And I would think they would have backed in
They have to fish. Gotta rack up all they can. Keep that revenue stream flowing 😉
Should have just given the guy a ticket instead of harassing a whole carful of people.
@@coryhorton5837 yup
@@coryhorton5837 ack ack bleep blop. We’re watching you……..Bots-R-Us
@@coryhorton5837 how about this one,
Should have just gone down to the seven eleven and shake them down for some day old wieners. That’s bot for sure.
John & Mike make very valid points about the officers "fishing" and making things worse than they needed to for themselves. Thankfully things weren't even worse than they are but they appeared as rookies without cuffing that guy up as soon as they got the gun off of him while leaving the car door open. They appeared to panic a bit
I would've bet my life that the dude had another gun in the car in which he was jumping for and I'm sure I would've fired a shot as well. I do commend them for not firing more than 1 shot , well done although things could've gone much smoother you cant deny it could've also been much worse.
God bless
The more fishing ..the more ways to put these very lawful citizens in jail so they don't accidently kills other for their own enjoyment
@@letsgobrandon6281 parking in a handicapped spot is literally a moving violation. There was zero reason to ask for anybody's ID except the person behind the wheel. That guy didn't have a license. If they saw him drive in there, write him the ticket and have another passenger drive the car. It's that simple. Making excuses for over policing is how people like Daniel Shaver got murdered
This is a perfect example why these things happen. U give no brake, u get no brake.
L.A. has ALWAYS been big on handicap parking spots. An old friend from college worked the swing shift at a gas station near California State University, Northridge, where we both attended in the early 90s. He used to park in the OUTER part of the lot, away from the building and pumps, but a few random parts were marked as handicap spots. The ironic thing was anyone could pretty much stop anywhere next to the building, including people with disabilities, and the only reason the outer area was painted handicap was because the owner had to comply with having handicap specific spots as a technicality. Again, the spots were on the outside edges of the lot, and were probably not really up to code, but rather there as a formality. He had run out to his car around 10:00 pm to grab something, and when he got off work at 12:00 midnight, he then found a $200+ ticket for parking in a handicap spot which he was sure was not there at 10:00. A few years back in 2018, I moved back to help take care of my parents for about 18 months, and I went to a Wells Fargo in Encino. There was a lot in the back which had an attendant and it was also a pay lot for other businesses (free for 1/2 hour at the bank). As I was walking in, a guy on a Harley pulled up and parked in the front of the lot between a couple handicap spots (the lined area which is for the wheelchair lift to go up and down). I did my business, and as I walked out not 15 minutes later, a L.A. parking enforcement car had pulled up and was writing a ticket for the bike. It reminded me of my friend back in the 90s, and other friends over the subsequent years before I had moved out of L.A. in 2004, who had received tickets for parking in handicap spots. So this video does not surprise me why they were being scrutinized parking in a handicap spot.
TLDR
that’s the same way I go for my phone when my girlfriend takes it
It’s minor but the cop says “you haven’t got anything on you, right?” This is a leading question so people feel compelled to agree regardless if it’s true or not. He should’ve gone with a direct question like “do you have any weapons?”
I'm glad you guys are not only able to point out that the officers and the guy is wrong but also articulate it.
You need to ride them hard when they're wrong.
This is really a mess. This kind of interaction worries me because I'm disabled and have muscle spasms. I could have a muscle spasm and they'd think I was trying to do something. That's why I do my best to follow all traffic regulations to the letter.
Why not just notify any officer of your condition?
@@phillhuddleston9445 Depends on the context. If you are pulled over for a traffic violation and you divulge to the officer upon presenting your documents then they would have no reason not too. If you are sitting in a handicap spot late at night with 3 other people in your car then they may be justifiably skeptical. At any rate, it's better too notify them of any condition than not to whether they believe you or not.
Would you have enough of a spasm to jump back into a car?
That wasn’t a muscle spasm dude straight dove into the car. Clearly looked like he was quickly trying to grab a weapon. Who moves like that to grab a wallet or if they’re having a muscle spasm? No one.
@@PotHead98 Have you seen people who have seizures? They move around pretty violently...
Passengers needed to be like, "Your business is with the driver. Leave me alone."
This is in LA. The cops stop you for any reason even just walking down the street. In some parts of LA they are really aggressive especially sheriff's
Why do u think that is? I grew up in San Bernardino and the police took on a proactive role when crime dictated it. People got tired of being victims of crime and demanded the police do something. This is a vicious cycle. People forget and then crime increases..then people demand the cops do something. The cops are the way they are because they can't always be reactive to crime.
Facts , sit on the curb 1st & answer questions after
@@8731Cordova so they can bash your head in quicker?
@@turinturambar8622 No so they can illegal search & let you go if they don’t find anything
Scary thing is the cops also effectively put the other 2 detainees down range. Could have easily been MUCH worse
Next up: Audit the audit audits this police stop lol
Officers started freaking out way too much over finding a gun.
My late best friend worked at the Paralyzed Veterans of America after he himself became disabled and wheelchair-bound. He drove a hand-controlled van and there weren’t enough handicapped parking spaces in the strip mall where the PVA office was. It was a rare week that nobody parked illegally in the handicapped spaces. His buddies really took care of him; they gave the illegal parkers hell. One of them made a fancy sign and put it on the same post as the blue sign was. It read: “If you aren’t handicapped when you park here, you WIL be when you leave.”
This whole thing was a mixture of bizarre and routine. As the narrators pointed out, the cops were in the wrong at the start, but all actors were reasonably calm until the incredibly stupid and inexplicable move made by the backseat occupant seriously added to the bizarre column.
It’s Los Angeles, California. It’s illegal to carry a concealed weapon without a permit. It’s nearly impossible to get a CCW in LA. I’m very confident Russell was in violation of a law. I think since Russell was so calm, the cops didn’t expect to find a gun on him. It threw them off and they reacted more authoritatively.
Dumb law, and sure depending on how the gun was, he might be able to argue he was open carrying or constitutionally carrying.
As a possibility.
But I hate California and any state that has laws like this. My state you can conceal carry just fine, if you choose to do so, the way it should be.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwistno constitutional carry in california
@@BullseyeHTX
That… so California… goes against the constitution? Thats… wow.. I mean I think most the government does but I didnt know California took away 2nd amendment rights, thats insane.
Driver didn’t have license or Id so to me that’s grounds to run a check
Why?
Absolutely. Why is everyone faulting the officers? These are not law-abiding citizens.
@@silva777 Is it a crime or misdemeanor to be in a handicapped spot without license?
@@theblueflame2221 Yes.
And it's a crime to drive without a license.
@@dafunkmonster Yes to what?
A matter of constitutional law or state policy?
Th driver of the car did not realize that the spot wish he was parked was a handicap parking spot! No sign did indicate that. and blue lanes where not visible!
In all honestly, it would probably be better for the cops to use more polite directions. Anytime I see an officer tell someone to "shut up" they only get more angry. Be direct and tell them why you need them to do something so they understand.
I like how these guys question the way the whole incident happen these two guys are really good officers
the driver knew his boy Russell was going to be a handicap so he try to use that early pass to park there
I also don't like how many young police officers speak to the public... calling suspects "bro" and "dude". It's like they are talking to their buddies. Some people might think this is no big deal, but I think it has everthing to do with their professionism and how they carry themselves.
Some may consider it "deescalation"
It's a way of putting people at ease.
They are likely tailoring their language to the people they're talking to (in this case, young men). If they stopped an older man, they probably wouldn't call them "bro" or "dude".
I actually think the cops used a lot of restraint here. When they found the gun on him they pulled back and were waiting for back up. They could have unloaded on the guy who jumped to get whatever it was from inside the car after just being disarmed and told to stay put.
YOU SERIOUS🤔 MAN THEM COPS APPROACHED THAT CAR WITH ILL INTENT ... HOW THE PASSENGERS GET DETAINED FOR A HANDICAPPED PARKING VIOLATION🤷 AND IT DON'T EVEN LOOK LIKE A HANDICAP SPOT, IT'S A HOOD STORE AND THEM PEOPLE WAS ILLEGALLY DETAINED....
You think it’s ok for cops to “unload on the guy who jumped to get whatever it was from inside the car”? What if he jumped in the car to get his phone? Is that ok to unload on him? What if he grabbed his wallet? Ok to unload on him? So, what you’re saying is that if you do anything but exactly what the cops say, they can just shoot you? Go live in China. You’d like it. I have no interest in sharing a country with people that don’t like freedom.
THE ONLY “crime” this man committed was “carting a gun illegally” which that law is clearly a violation of the second amendment.
@@jonathanarmstrong9799 You obviously don't know the law. They can check EVERYONE'S ID during a traffic stop. Just because you don't know it's not a handicapped spot, doesn't mean the cops don't know it is.
We also don't know if the tags came back with anything on them, if 1 of the officers think they know 1 of them in the car, etc... We don't know everything from a very short video clip.
And you ALWAYS disclose if you are armed to an officer. This is LA California. The vest majority of people are not legally allowed to carry. Sad, but true. The people need to vote to change their laws! Until then, they need to know, they'll get popped for an illegal firearm.
And last, never jump into a car like that. Darwinism at it's best!
Ahhh…yes. Russell is the designated Eddie Haskel.
They handled this perfectly… there’s got to be more to this than what we see… if that guy has never been arrested why did he do all that
He’s a kid. Kids make mistakes, and are often impulsive. I’ve seen adults do really stupid things too, myself included. SMH, I can’t believe I just-said, did that.
@@catalhuyuk7 he was not a kid.
@@catalhuyuk7 kids can’t carry guns silly. Hahaha!
For all of you “just comply” back the blue types, I hope you listened to the first part of the video where they questioned why the cops were escalating the contact. Cops encroaching on our rights by asking all passengers for id, pulling people out of the car, freaking out cause someone has a gun, it raises the temperature unnecessarily. ASP was spot on.
back the blue and comply none of this would have happened. how about not having a concealed gun? how about telling the officer you have one and comply? how hard is that?
Really glad they spend time discussing the legality of the stop first. I know it varies from state to state and I'm not an expert, but I'm not sure the cops were allowed to detain the passengers as they had nothing to do with where the driver decided to park, they just happened to be in the car. I certainly don't think they should have shown ID or answered any questions. And as for the officers just arbitrarily getting people on their knees and perhaps even cuffing one of them, that's very thin ice from a legal standpoint. There was no suspicion they had committed a crime and certainly no suggestion of them being a threat to their safety.
Let's be real. He didn't turn a parking lot infraction into a gun fight. They already found he had a gun and were going to find more guns with the continued search. He wasn't getting off with a warning. Still should have followed instructions but he didn't turn an infraction into a gun fight.
Man what sucks about these and infuriates me is that they were unlawfully detained he was willing to give Id they handcuffed the driver and the passenger. Once again these officers in my opinion had no legal right to detain and search the passengers over the driver illegally parking in a handicap zone.
He could’ve declared he had a legal weapon on him that would’ve probably been nice for the cops to know 👍🏾 and also idk where he think his big self was gonna run to 😂
Why didnt they just write the ticket instead of empty the car/ search over a parking lot infraction
Rookie cops fishing
The problem is they are allowed to ask questions and if you don't answer them, they think you are a criminal!!!
Then just answer them. If people have nothing to worry about, it shouldn't be an issue. Follow directions! It's obviously for safety, ours, and theirs.
@@louisprieto8997 That is the last thing you want to do realistically because even the small questions can lead to complications and honestly cops aren't trying to keep you out of jail their questions are designed to potentially lead you into incriminating yourself.
Their jobs are to take people who commit crimes to jail, that's why the most important question to ask the officers is "am I being detained?" if they say no then you should just leave however if they say yes then your response should be "I invoke the 5th" and say nothing else outside of what you are legally obligated to disclose.
There have been far too many scenerios where innocent people have been found guilty of crimes they never committed due to the mentality of "If you have nothing to hide then just answer their questions."
@@louisprieto8997 Yeah answering every question a cop asks you will most likely incriminate you.
@Charmy That's never been my experience when I've dealt with police. At a traffic stop, DUI checkpoint, while walking late at night, even while sitting in my front yard drinking. Never been shot or incriminated myself with their questions. They've even let me go without a ticket and a warning before when I was guilty as he'll. So it's all in how your attitude is.
@ICBM Not in my experience. You'll only incriminate yourself if you're guilty of something.