I cannot for the life of me understand why the hell he reached in the car like that. He determined the outcome of this situation as soon as he did that..
@not fair He's clearly calm enough to ask multiple times if he can grab things (like his firearm paperwork, his ID, etc). The officer clearly said no. He was definitely not oblivious to the expectations.
Losing my freedom is worse than dying to me. Those police happily with glee will cause the worse injury to another human (take away their freedom). If a person is a criminal committing some violent crime immediately I understand but looking for some BS excuse to stop and cause a citizen some sort of injury is immoral and evil. I used to feel bad when some police got shot till the past couple of years seeing how evil they are. Today I feel nothing when either side of that contest lose because they looked for it.
It boggles my mind: the perp had no criminal record. Why not just get a concealed carry permit? I'm black and live in Jacksonville and it was fairly simple to get a concealed carry permit. After I submitted the paperwork, the permit arrived in about 3 weeks.
@@TheGrowlingAraknid That sucks. The process for me was super quick. They have up to 90 days but I got mine in less than a month after submitting all paperwork
Typical psychopaths. Don’t care about anyone else, but willing to murder two people and flee. Some jaxkass is sitting in these comments 3 months later trying to justify himself and others for murdering people.
Who knows what the hell these people are thinking, last thing I'm gonna do is make a cop scared for their life during a traffic stop wtf did not need to go down like that
I’m outraged that there was community outrage. If you don’t want to be shot, don’t stupid things that will get you shot. The officer was fantastic to this guy.
If he didn't act sus and just give his ID and said no to the search. He would have probably got a citation for the seatbelt and firearm but nothing serious. He chose his fate.
FIRST OF ALL THEY'RE NOT PLLING OVER WHITE KIDS AN PULLING THEM OUT THE CAR FOR A NOOO SEATBELT, 2ND IF THIS KID WAS WHITE THEY WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY REQUESTED A MEDIC
It's because even someone who was intent on taking someone else's life just a few seconds before, once mortally wounded, knows that they're soon going to meet God as they are. Not a good self-imposed condition to be in.
This channel and content continues to evolve in an impressive way! As a liberal who believes in being armed for self-protection and protection of others, John and Mike are offering very honest perspectives no matter what political lines people want to draw... an example of misguided community outrage.
I belive that there are issues that the community should be addressing. John and Mike are spot-on about the unique rights we Americans believe are important.
If it was not for the weed (which was part why he was so nervous) he probably could have gotten probation and no jail time as long as he fulfilled other requirements. Sad outcome
It doesn't always help to obey the traffic laws. I have been told more than once that I am being stopped for not wearing a seatbelt when I never ride in a vehicle without it on. I was really being pulled over because I was in a "bad area" and they wanted to go fishing.
Well he dropped the gun and distanced himself from it and was helpless when the cop shot him and later forced him to bleed out and die. Maybe the bad choice was dropping his only mans of self defense and expected the officers to treat him as a fellow human being.
@@imallergictobullets Yes, that is why we need to have a better selection process to chose cops. And saying he tried to murder them is a stretch as he may have just wanted to use the gun to get them to back off. There may be a hundred times more people that had a gun pointed at them then have actually been shot. Cops for example point a gun at a great many more people than they actually shoot, same even for armed robbers. I'm not saying that cops should let someone point a gun at them, I'm just saying that until that first shot is fired, you can't say for certain. And he never fired at them. So while it was an aggravated assault on a police officer, calling it attempted murder is a stretch.
You never know whats going through someone's mind I mean come on now do we like this kinda outcome I mean no we hate this kind of outcome everyone should have went home safe "judge not that ye be not judged" my brother is an officer of JSO and this is a sad outcome for all believe me....
@Albert Foxx BS I don't like being pulled over, but I am not that retarded. I also don't have 200 grams of weed on me and carrying a weapon without doing so as is required. The kid was selling dope and got caught; he knew the risk vs. reward. Weed should be legal everywhere and constitutional carry as well, yet to the laws are changed either don't break the law or don't get caught. He got caught
Regardless of the Marijuana laws, the guy chose to jump into his vehicle and take off with the officer in the car. This was obviously a bad guy with bad intentions.
So his whole reason to get him into the cop car was based on the gun not being in a holster. What a bullshit reason to elevate the situation.. if the man has a permit for his gun and paperwork for the car then wtf bro?? Like that whole debate about the laws regarding the holster and it being in his jacket after he tried to be upfront and to comply is just ridiculous. The cop didn't have to take it that far & obviously the guy shouldn't have reached but I can get that after such compliance he felt they were looking for a reason.
No, not regardless of marijuana laws, literally because of marijuana laws. What is wrong with you? Why did you even capitalize marijuana? Give people the ultimatum of going to prison for 20 years or doing something drastic to escape, and you bet your smokey BBQ balls that most people will take drastic measures to be free. If BBQ was illegal, you'd literally be the guy in this video. Look at it from the officer's perspective. A cop almost died because he is legally obligated to arrest a guy for having weed. Imagine that being your life story; "Killed in the act of protecting the world from marijuana." It's seriously a pathetic thing to put officer's lives on the line for.
@@kpt_forever Dude, you need to look at the big picture. Why did the perp act the way he did? Do you think the gun was legally purchased and owned? Likely not. Perp knew there was more to the story. Looks like there was a 24+ capacity mag in the gun. Not what a typical law abiding citizen would have. Appears he was ready to go if a deal went south on him. Unfortunately, he made a bad choice and it didn't end well. I pray that anyone in his life may be influenced in a positive way due to this guys bad actions.
@@tbl8560 The problem here is you ignore details which leads you to make all these assumptions. There's no "likely" required here, he stated that he had his paperwork (for gun and car) & more than once he offered it to the cop. For me those are the primary and most important requirements. Weed is becoming legal and probably will be legal everywhere in the future. This man died for having crumbs of weed on his T that's bullshit to me, the cop could've chilled. If we wanna talk about how they put their lives on the line everyday and so on then in circumstances where its not necessary to be so damn strict, they should also avoid elevating shit. Bigger picture to me is two things: #1 A young graduate died #2 a bit of weed These things dont balance out. It wasn't necessary for the cop to want to take him into the cop car. Should've checked all paperwork then let the man go let's not forget that the whole reason he claimed to have stopped him was due to a seatbelt which is also another bullshit reason that leads to someone dying.
Great job up until the point where they forced him to bleed out and die while he was unarmed. Lesson to learn from that is that cops don't care about your life, jamming you up is what they live for and forcing someone bleed out and die is the best power rush they can have.
I’m black and never had problems with a traffic stop. I followed instructions, was polite and given a break. Without law enforcement it’d be total anarchy
@@stoiccrane4259 I’m not an ‘exception’. I’m a rational law abiding citizen who respects the law and have common sense and I carry myself with dignity. Yes there’s bad apples in every bunch but at the end of the day when you’re in danger it’s police, people like you and me of different races who have families and live amongst us risk their lives every single day. The liberal politicians and media continue to dehumanize them and incite people to hate all law enforcement. You’d be blind not to see the rampant crime in places where they were defunded, and the loudest anti police proponents have now walked back their vitriol bc of the majority of people oppose it and know full well what it would lead to. These same politicians pay lots of money for their own private armed security yet they want to strip our safety. Look at the mayhem cities who defunded police like Chicago, Baltimore, Portland, NYC, Austin and LA. Criminals perpetuate with total impunity there bc law enforcement are hindered from doing their job and they have liberal DAs who won’t prosecute them. Chicago like NYC inspired no cash bail creating a revolving door for criminals to avoid being taken off the streets. Highlight THIS!
@@RJBuildsPcs Just because that was his experience doesn't mean that the majority of Black people have similar experiences with police while complying. Reading comprehension, man.
Originality of police is slave catching. That's what a police officers was for. Even back then they had a uncle rukus helping them catch slaves. Last time I check the police were the ones who put crack in the black neighborhoods in 80s. Under Reagan use the money to support wars. Remember black people weren't allowed to start voting till 1968. Police cause alot of problems in this country.
@@stoiccrane4259 the data says black people should be afraid of other black people not police. black on black murder is by far the biggest problem in the states.
@@rolandsmith2555 yea, sure, the second any black person dies to a cop its because they were racist. nice logic. not to mention the cop that shot him was black.
@@brucesmith1544 yeah he didn't handle the talking part very well. Probably make the arrest first before you tell them what your gonna try and charge them with. Weed ain't shit but he got scared when he told him that he broke the concealed gun law. Probably shouldn't have told him that just yet.
Seen this awhile back. Glad to see you covered it. Our society today is sad, sure the kid was wrong but that officer is going to hear that kid saying ‘please don’t let me die’ for the rest of his life. It is heartbreaking but cop did what he had to do. Kid was wrong.
He was illegally carrying a gun and dealing illegal drugs. Now you may say all that should be legal, but for society to function as a society we need to follow the laws our society goes by today, not 100 years ago or we'd be locking up black guys for sitting on the wrong seat on a bus, 200 years ago we'd be hanging young dads for stealing a loaf of bread to feed their starving kids, maybe in a hundred years it will be legal to carry rocket launchers and eat old people, who knows, fact is this guy carried a gun, wasn't bothered about using it, lived a criminal lifestyle in his day and now, thanks to great policing, risking their own lives, he is no longer on our streets:)
@@jacobfernandez6055rob him? fear for his life? wtf are you on about you garbage criminal sympathizer. Only 1 person escalated this to a deadly encounter, and it was the law breaking idiot whos nuts are currently lodged down your throat. Prick.
It is so sad this young individual lost his life due to his own actions. Never reach for anything on a traffic stop. Comply Comply and Respectfully Comply. Fight your battles in court!
I was thinking do you think that officer shot him because he probably heard banging thinking the kid was shooting during the scuffle? But it was the other officer kicking the door
@@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 Yeah your not entitled to rights and freedoms since you don't believe in them. No more avatar for for you btw evil fire nation lol.
The hypocrisy of the community in situations like this pisses me off... their not mad when they kill a cop their mad when an attempted murderer gets killed??? Where's the logic in this? There isn't any it just shows their true motivation and heart. And fairness doesn't factor in
No one protested this, and how do you confuse They're and Their yet get it right towards the end? I'd say the majority of our society acts without logic.
Lol... You're right!.The only thing that would have made it more "Quinton Tarantino" like is if that house would have exploded and no one even flinched or acknowledged it
Man I'm so thankful for badge cam footage. It clearly shows the caliber of the officer and suspect in these encounters. No longer can an officer be painted as a hero or villain undeservingly, and no longer can a suspect be painted as a victim or an aggressor undeservingly. I hate this young man went out like this, but sadly he did it to himself.
Weird how fast he went from trying to grab a gun to “please, sir”. It would have been a happier outcome if he had just gone where the officer was leading him.
@@CDCK006 low level criminals/unlicensed pharmacists rarely know the laws they break. Riding around with Gun,Weed/Hemp, a scale and the kicker NO SEATBELT. He had his hand the waving at the police to get pulled over. These dudes gotta be brain dead.
@@Teddy-fm9nt i never understood why someone who knows theres guns/drugs in the car dont drive at 100%. Real world police showed me most of these idiots are caught over minor things. Theyre like i got 50 pounds in the car, let me speed, take my seat belt off and wave my gun out the window.
How to avoid being shot by officers, easily don’t go for a deadly weapon or just comply with their orders. Do I feel bad yes, do I understand why the officers didn’t move in yes. Ever heard of “you can trick me once but not twice”. These officers definitely taking that to heart.
@@EasilyCringed i mean it’s still another human being with a family and friends that care for them so it’s hard for a lot of sane ppl to turn off their empathy meters. He deserved it 100% but it’s a sad and unnecessary situation that humans feel the need to pull out a gun and try and kill one another for apparently no reason
I don't know about anyone else, but my heart does not go out to this guy. He died as a result of his own actions. He basically forced the officer to shoot him, and now the officer has to live with that. The cops aren't always right, but if you do what they say you'll most likely be alive to address those concerns later.
They shot an UNARMED man. He dropped the gun and moved away from the car. So they were not forced to shoot him at all. At best, they made a mistake. At worst they murdered him because he pissed them off and then forced him to bleed out and die for their personal amusement.
@@CK-id9tr Maybe you need to look up the definition. I realize facts that go against one's narrative cause Cognitive Dissidence. So, I'll go slow. Where was the gun we he got shot? Was it in the car or was it in his hand when he was shot outside the car? Cognitive Dissidence can be emotionally uncomfortable, so chew on it a while and think on it. But accepting the truth can be emotionally painful, especially when you see so many others here unwilling to accept that truth too. But it is part of the ugly side human nature.
@Scary Storytelling Only law he broke was weed laws. And if you think weed laws need or should be enforced shows that you either dont know what you are talking about or are so clouded with what Rich politicians WHO SMOKE WEED ANYWAYS tell you what to do with your life.
@Scary Storytelling There are 10's of thousands of laws like the Florida law this man violated that are totally victimless and should not exist. The law in this case is what caused the violence. My point is I bet you have violated a host of laws unwittingly and you might be the nicest guy.
@@sheldondinkleberg6525 No i dont think you should be shot or arrested for smoking weed. That said dead dummy shouldn't have made a run for it just take your damn ticket if your smoking but he was riding around with a bunch and a scale I.E. distribution. Which in my eyes hell is simple enterprise. But in the governments its illegal. Vote to get that changed.
6:00 "I'm ready to give up." Now if only you'd come to that conclusion 3 minutes earlier. And you've gotta love the "I can't breathe" line. At least he knows the script.
@@-elijahriggs- He was saying ‘I can’t breathe’ when he was being put in the back of the cruiser. That’s why he got pulled back out, he was freaking out and resisting.
You've said it before, Mike: You may outrun the cop, you might even outrun the car, but you are NOT going to outrun the Motorola. Initial interaction suggests the kid was thinking mostly clearly at first, but it degraded, and at the point he decided to flee, the only word that comes to mind is "contaminated".
Selfish prick? From his perspective, he was minding his own business when this guy walks up and tries to kidnap him and steal his possessions. I'm not saying he was right in what he did, but these cops were going to take everything from him (years in prison means losing pretty much everything). When you take everything away from a man, you should not be surprised when he acts like a man with nothing left to lose.
@@Gogeta70 I agree, the man was about to lose it all over a plant?? And he was pleading for his life my heart has to go out to him. I agree he deserved to get shot for going for the gun but it still just sucked to watch. He was clearly scared
He was UNARMED the running AWAY from the firearm when they shot him OUTSIDE the car. So..., when they shot him he wasn't trying to kill anyone, was no imminent threat to the officers, and after he was shot and fully compliant, they USED HIS COMPLIANCE to kill him by not even allowing him to give first aid to himself. Yes, someone was a selfish prick.
As a Canadian, I can say that your founding fathers were more than geniuses in including the second amendment as a tyrannical government such as Trudeau would never happen in the great USA
LMAOOOO how bad are you looking for opportunities to make it about your opinion? I bet you scour the internet looking to make it about yourself and your views LMAO
Lesson 1: If you really don't want to die, don't do things that will get you killed. Don't go reaching for things, hiding things, lying to officers. It was just weed--until it wasn't. Don't be stupid! Go to jail and live to tell about it.
Exactly and getting caught with weed now a days is weak probably just a fine Unless your selling probably a couple nights in jail but if your moving bud can’t really complain cuz you chose for it to be your income lol
@@entertainmentonly5842 But here is the thing.. Weed has never killed anybody except for robberies because its illegal which makes it worth more. $250 average for an ounce. This is the fault of weed being illegal since 1937. Which every reason needs to be examined, timber industry, alcohol, racist remarks about blacks/Mexicans smoking it. Some prick made it illegal for military including the horses who needed it. Im all for this cop not living, he started it.
Very funny that you think your little advice is going to deter crime. Criminals don’t care about what’s legally right. Instead of wasting your time typing useless comments on YT do something good of your life and actually get into the real world making a change. It makes me cringe that people typing this think this is going to do anything and it’s very funny y know
th-cam.com/video/fDgPJ_2Sad4/w-d-xo.html Feed yourself more of this. Let see what other lessons you’re going to spout. I prefer if you skip to 7:00 please 😂
@@thedarkmajesty1773 You have no idea what I think or believe. I think it's very funny that you are replying to my comment. Go back in your hole. The perp cared about what is legally right when he stated, "don't let me die!"
From watching some of these videos, it seems like closing the person’s car door once you get them out would be a big help. Also, I saw an ER show once where the ER doc said that when people say they’re dying, they usually are, so it creates a sense of urgency for the docs.
I've noticed officers leaving suspects in front of an open car door leading to terrible outcomes on numerous occasions. This is the latest example but I also seem to recall a similar situation in the Kim Potter shooting, and I'm sure others. Officers really need to move people away from the door to the vehicle and sit them on a curb while they sort things out. Leaving them the option to dive into the car if they want seems to me to be allowing bad situations to develop.
I think the officer really wanted to send him on his way, but the situation just deteriorated to the point where he was gonna just put him in the car, and even then probably wanted to just issue of warning or citation before sending him on his way. The guy was moving and reaching all around, maybe thinking he could just speed or shoot his way out of trouble, which ultimately got him killed.
My hometown…Very sad that he made that choice…Glad the Officer got to go home at the end of his shift…This will affect him indefinitely in some form… Thanks for the breakdown! 🦋Lily🦋
Thank you guys for your honesty about marijuana it's crazy to think how many people would be out of jail and Alive is marijuana was legal from the get-go
@@SirPraiseSun The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized….Fourth amendment.
@@robaxl3088 weed being illegal and 2nd amendment restrictions didn't exactly help either. But yeah considering the perp knew what the BS law was, then tried to run and grab the gun sealed the deal for him. All things considered it still hurt my heart the way he said please god help me I don't want to die, help i'm dying!
@@johntaranto29 I agree. It wasn't the BS laws that got him killed. It was his own actions. Honestly, he had no priors and was apparently a good college student. There's a chance he could have gotten out of this with reduced charges.
@@amirjones09 Recreational is. Prescribed is not. The dumbass did not even give the cop a chance to prove it was prescribed. He just signed his death sentence when he reached for that gun.
The majority of the conversation he had with the officer was about his firearm which was in the car. This is why when he tried jumping back in the car it became a major safety threat for the officers.
This Is a complete mess. It all comes down to the cops, and this cop was doing a great job of de-escalation, unfortunately the driver decided to escalate this to a whole new level. It sucks that he put this cop in the position of "Judge, Jury, and Executioner" when he decided to go for the gun to murder the cop.
I dont understand why the cop didnt take the guy to the backside of the vehicle. By standing in the door he gave the guy a chance to grab anything inside… And he kept repeating the same questions making the guy even more nervous. Just take him back, detain him if needed, and search the vehicle. How difficult can it be???
@@pabl1to33 What do you mean? The cop asked the guy to come with him to the cop car and the guy asked if he can grab something out of his car then immediately decided to get his gun. Before this point this guy had broken the law by carrying a concealed weapon illegally that is law. So if the individual would've held his cool, the cop would've cited and let him on his way. This guy was an idiot 100% and nothing can change that and don't excuse his dumb actions.
@@pabl1to33 yes the cops could’ve done more, that’s what this video is about, but the cops didn’t do anything wrong. They reacted how was necessary to the guy getting in his car and then pulling the pistol.
I love how quickly their attitude changes after they get shot. People were outraged about this? Dude tried to draw his pistol on some cops over a minor violation.
@@xinggaming9500 yup and that's why we don't get officers who breathe anything except their own ass air because people are like this. If I'm speeding, an in officer will treat me worse than this. Plus fuck the cop for the weed smell bS
Not only is it perfectly _acceptable_ to refuse a search, it's what you _should_ do regardless of whether there is anything illegal in the vehicle or not. There is literally no reason to *ever* let an officer search your vehicle. Nothing good can come of it. Edit for clarification: I am not advocating that you refuse to follow lawful orders, I'm saying that you should refuse any *voluntary* search.
@@cmart355 Doesn't matter. At best they'll tear your car to shreds, and at worst they'll plant something. We all know it happens. Never consent to a search, PERIOD.
I agree with asserting your rights and maintaining them. I think, had he done that and just let him check the gun, he would have been on his way with maybe a summons.
To me the most important lesson, and one that needs to be hammered home again and again by community leaders and everyone else: When you have an interaction with law enforcement, don't resist arrest. If your civil rights have been violated, take it to court. Even if you end up in front of a judge like this fella would have, what's better - a trip to court or a trip to the morgue? Look at almost every high-profile police lethal shooting case that makes the media rounds: if the person hadn't resisted arrest, they live another day.
i really believe this was a result of the fear the media has driven about police interactions. He was so afraid to have an officer touch him, that he got the result he was afraid of.
As a black 🇨🇦 female living in the 🇺🇸 I have been pulled over by LE. I immediately turn on my dome light and put both hands on my steering wheel and I speak full Canadian, eh 😊 I answer politely in a very soft voice and always ask for permission to get ‘out’ my documents. They usually send me off with a warning. I thank them and apologize for whatever they said I did wrong. Works every time.
I think the officer really wasn’t looking to jam this dude over the gun. Florida cops are often very chill about guns, it is the gunshine state after all. He didn’t slap the cuffs on for carrying the gun improperly even though he could. Bad tactics though, you should never talk to somebody next to the open door of their car, especially when you are going to tell them they might be in trouble. Could have avoided the whole thing by just walking him back to the police car before having that whole conversation about weed flakes and proper carry of the firearm, and still kept it chill.
The firearm doesn't have to be in a holster AND in a locked compartment or container in florida - the officer misrepresented the law, likely due to being mistaken. The law doesn't require a holster, it states "securely encased" which could be in the glove box (locked or not) in a shoe box with the lid closed, or in a holster that has a snap.
@@QuasiRandomViewer I didn't say the guy was carrying according to the law. I said the officer misrepresented the law. Merely wrapped in a jacket doesn't technically satisfy the law (though it could if the pocket had a zipper and was closed).
@@Stormclowe Interesting. Do you know if being in a zippered pocket is clearly accepted as "securely encased", or is that a grey area open to legal debate?
I love your content! Thank you breaking this down the way you did. If I saw this on CNN I would of been pissed thinking they just shot another black guy. You took the time to explain it frame by frame and it made sense. Thank you so much and please keep this content coming!!
if you look at crime data you'll know that "just shot another black guy" is a complete lie. the reason they get shot is because they are a threat. that's what these videos show and that's what the data say. there are a few outliers of course, but the data doesn't lie.
There should be no such thing as illegally carrying a firearm if you arent prohibited from carrying. If you are allowed to carry you should be able to carry that firearm in any way shape or form.
I will say, the young man had it coming. Reaching for a gun, with other guys that have guns… of course you will get shot.. obviously. But I will also say him laying on the ground being very cognizant in that moment of the fact he could (and ultimately did) die, while begging not to die, is kinda sad. Especially if you’ve ever been in a position where you really think you’re about to die, how terrifying that is
and never been arrested before and a college student selling weed. barley drugs.. having the gun is stupid for 200 grams.. that’s like a couple hundred bucks.. stupid
Dudes attitude changed fast when he got shot “im ready to give up” like this guy was scared for a reason and the officer knew it. You wouldn’t be afraid or twitchy if you had nothing to hide. This guy was trying every which way to get his gun cause he kept asking if he could get irrelevant papers the officer never asked for. Police aren’t dumb and they definitely a better shot than you so just don’t try and kill a cop unless you have a death wish and this guy certainly had that
They’re a better shot than you? Fr? th-cam.com/video/fDgPJ_2Sad4/w-d-xo.html Watch this video. For the moment, just shut your mouth. Skip to 7:00 please :)
I’ve never been in this position and I pray I don’t ever find myself here but, I’ve always wondered how you’re supposed to stay still or stop moving when you’ve been shot? I get that emotions are so high on both ends but that’s one thing I’ve never understood is how you’re supposed to stay still after being shot. Sad situation all around both to the man who lost his life and the officer who had to take it.
America never ceases to amaze me, and I mean this in the best way. I've lived in several countries and it's only in the US that I can conceive of cops acting consistently with politness and professionalism, despite a very real and constant threat to their safety being ever present. Yet this is so often taken advantage of by the dregs of society.
I gotta say I agree with John and actually liked the guy asserting his rights. Unfortunately, he made the wrong choice when he went back in the vehicle and the police did what they had to.
I'll never understand how these guys think they're going to shoot their way out from a disadvantage. I'm always trying to figure out their thought process but it always come up blank.
Yes, you’re here critiquing this mans thought process but if he was smart and killed this cop then it’s a whole different thing. Just be glad we have dumb civilians and shut it.
Question for the LEOs here: why not move the driver to the rear of the car immediately so that it's not as easy to jump back in the car and get the firearm and drive away?
Sometimes you use the open door to trap the suspect so that they cannot run. You can feel their energy when you take them out, and he probably felt he was going to run..
Thank you for your intelligent and rational position on legalization. The officer really was as nice as could be. Perp made an incredibly bad decision. When you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
Yes, heroic police officer, who would have taken this Florida citizen to prison for 5-10 years. We are not talking about Meth or Fentanyl, we are talking about ending this man's life and freedom, he clearly made a terrible decision, but it's also a terrible situation. End the war on drugs.
6:51 That officer telling him to stop moving would be difficult to achieve because when the body is losing blood, the person becomes anxious and restless! Making movements is unavoidable.
When a cop asks if you mind if he search your car, the right thing to say is "As long as you get a warrant, then you may search my car." Make them keep it by the book.
I hate when people like you have to make lectures about the law just because this situation went downhill for this man. But when it comes to “man kills cop” then y’all go raging behind your pillows.
@@thedarkmajesty1773 lol do you have down syndrome? What lecture? He just made a good and obvious fact. I 100% support law enforcement but idc who you are nobody can intrude on your shit without a reason and a warrant.
@@MoYammaBatFitch A fact, a lecture, take it as you please. The thing is y’all act like y’all know this guy or the judgement of this guy when y’all don’t. You all have no right to talk as to what he should and shouldn’t have done. The reasons as to why he made the choice he made is beyond anyone. Tossing stupid facts like it’s gonna make a difference is so freaking cringe. Y’all talk and flap your mouths while the world does what it does.
@@thedarkmajesty1773 you’re the one with a flappy mouth. You get way into your emotions, you’re a weirdo. He just stated a fact, nobody cares about your little rant it’s totally out of place and you’re just making a clown of yourself. Nobody asked for your opinion maybe retire from the TH-cam comment approval team because you’re stressing over nothing lol
@@thedarkmajesty1773 the guy never said “HE SHOULDVE SAID OR DONE THIS” etc.. he literally just stated that the right thing to do in a situation like this is to ask for the warrant before they search. are you really that dense?
If you’re going to possess an illegal substance and illegally carry a firearm, at least obey the traffic laws so you don’t get pulled over like this. And if you do, just comply with the officers , especially if they know you are carrying a gun. This could’ve gone so much better. Yeah the guy would’ve been in trouble for illegally carrying a firearm and possibly being in possession of an illegal substance, but still, it wasn’t worth giving up his life for.
Both the plant and the gun should not be illegal to carry. One should not have to produce papers in the form of a permission slip to use the 2nd amendment. Change the laws so this guy would have gotten a ticket and be on his way. With that being said... He should not have jumped back in the car. Bad laws and his reaction ended with his death.
“Kind of a rough part of town.” That’s all of Jax lol Riverside has multimillion dollar mansions on the St. John’s and a street over there’s decrepit homes with bars on the windows.
Reminds me of up here in DC, we got the white House and apartments beside it for 3000 bucks a month lol which who tf can afford that.. And on the same corner there literally a homeless colony. Tourists can come see the white House and the president and get robbed all on the same block 😂😂
@@Phiery Laws are made by legislators, not police. The place to change the law is the ballot box, not at a roadside traffic stop. Grow up, kids. No decent human being would try to kill someone to avoid jail.
Great case review as always. ASP could use more emphasis from a MEDICAL perspective. After the perp was shot you can see him roll over and his white shirt is soaking with blood on his left chest/shoulder. This means that once the scene is secure Injuries (TAP IFFS) likely include an axillary junctional bleed (wound packing), chest seals (entry and exit wounds), and needle decompression (tension pneumothorax), oh yeah and blood transfusion. It’s a shame how poorly our medical colleagues share specific information with those directly involved and the public. Hospital systems and HIPAA laws are largely to blame. -carry that IFAK
I have absolutely no problem with how it all went down, the officer was trying to be cool, and then they had to react. The one thing that does bother me though... You got the the guy. He's shot, bleeding out on the ground, pleading for his life. You have backup.... They could've easily applied life saving services while literally holding a gun to his head in case he still tried something.
@@garthhunt7238 did he disserve to be shot? hell yeah. He also disserved a second chance at life. specially with no criminal record. The guy was leaking life.. holes in his side and most likely had a punctured lung filling with blood.. I want to see you try to sit still under those circumstances. His unconscious body entering rigor mortis moves more then his attempt at self preservation. And then they move in.. after they see rigor mortis. shame.
@@ThePsychoReturnsokay, have that same mindset if it unfortunately happens to you, your friends, your family.. id love to see if you feel the same way.
@@ThePsychoReturns Here, watch what really brave cops do & maybe you can learn something as simple as compassion for life. th-cam.com/video/tW6uw_Zrkoo/w-d-xo.html
Also why a lot of states have made seatbelts a secondary offence meaning you can't be pulled over solely for not having your seatbelt. So many nit-pick things cops use to pull people over unfortunately mostly in rough neighborhoods and then use that to look for the things they actually want to (warrants, people with drugs/alcohol visible, and these sorts of things)
Terrible that cops have a reason to catch criminals with warrants? If you follow the law you don't get pulled over. Pretty simple. Rich or poor it takes 2 seconds to put your seatbelt on.
My biggest problem with the whole "probable cause" thing is alot of times the officers will lie just to search a car. This happened to me 4 years ago, the officer said he smelled Marijuana coming from my car (never smoked a day in my life) which gave them "enough" to search my car. Of course they didn't find anything but it held me up for over an hour.. I felt extremely denied of my rights plus lost respect for police after that, so it frustrates me when people talk about "probable cause". If the cops feel like searching your car their going to no matter what you do or say, it's messed up.
I cannot for the life of me understand why the hell he reached in the car like that. He determined the outcome of this situation as soon as he did that..
Exactly. The cops aren't psychic so they can't know for definite what his intentions are.
how to avoid being shot: don't do dumb shit
Because he got high 🎶 , because he got high 🎶
@not fair He's clearly calm enough to ask multiple times if he can grab things (like his firearm paperwork, his ID, etc). The officer clearly said no. He was definitely not oblivious to the expectations.
Exactly
Man, I don’t get why anybody would think “Man, I’m going to jail. Better make the situation worse!”
@@hg-javelingaming2690 Its essentially suicide or get away.
@@412pgh2 get away for the moment yeah, next hour maybe not so much
No impulse control.
Double-down on Stupid.
Losing my freedom is worse than dying to me. Those police happily with glee will cause the worse injury to another human (take away their freedom). If a person is a criminal committing some violent crime immediately I understand but looking for some BS excuse to stop and cause a citizen some sort of injury is immoral and evil. I used to feel bad when some police got shot till the past couple of years seeing how evil they are. Today I feel nothing when either side of that contest lose because they looked for it.
It boggles my mind: the perp had no criminal record. Why not just get a concealed carry permit? I'm black and live in Jacksonville and it was fairly simple to get a concealed carry permit. After I submitted the paperwork, the permit arrived in about 3 weeks.
@@damianzurc but he wasn’t some run-of-the-mill criminal with a long rap sheet. He had no criminal background. He was a college student.
@@TheGrowlingAraknid That sucks. The process for me was super quick. They have up to 90 days but I got mine in less than a month after submitting all paperwork
Do you want a pot high ... high with a cow in the community
@@TriRacialAmericana He was a wannabe thugee without the brains to be good at it. A sad reflection of the calibre of modern "college"students.
I live in Australia where our gun laws are quite strict. And even here I wouldn’t
dive back into a car like that.
“Don’t let me die officer” even though I was 100% cool with taking your life just a few moments ago.
The nerve of this POS.
Shut up karen
Typical psychopaths.
Don’t care about anyone else, but willing to murder two people and flee.
Some jaxkass is sitting in these comments 3 months later trying to justify himself and others for murdering people.
Who knows what the hell these people are thinking, last thing I'm gonna do is make a cop scared for their life during a traffic stop wtf did not need to go down like that
Drugs are bad for everyone involved.
Exactly. Totally fine taking a cops life but wants to beg that same cop to save his own. Total POS and coward.
I’m outraged that there was community outrage. If you don’t want to be shot, don’t stupid things that will get you shot. The officer was fantastic to this guy.
Are you really surprised, the community outrage.
Fantastic? He stopped the guy for “not wearing a seatbelt” 😂
@@nathanielhiggs9188 I mean if he wasn’t doing anything illegal he wouldn’t have had to worry. None of it is on the cop
If he didn't act sus and just give his ID and said no to the search. He would have probably got a citation for the seatbelt and firearm but nothing serious. He chose his fate.
Resist and die. America needs more and more of this. Too many violent criminals on the streets that need to be in jail.
Bad guy-"please God don't let me die." God- "I sent you the coolest cop ever. And you screwed it up."
Yahh ..why he do that
Funny how people live like the Devil.. And when the realization of death is imminent, the first word out of their Mouth is "GOD"...
Tyrant tried to arrest him when he was exersizing his right to bear arms and he had every right to defend himself against the cop .
@@gullyactual1898 you’re clearly his stoned brother… SMH
@@gullyactual1898 lmao that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard… I don’t weed should be illegal by any means but if it’s illegal in your state it is
It never ceases to amaze me how someone can cry for help after setting the events in place that leads to their injury in the first place.
FIRST OF ALL THEY'RE NOT PLLING OVER WHITE KIDS AN PULLING THEM OUT THE CAR FOR A NOOO SEATBELT, 2ND IF THIS KID WAS WHITE THEY WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY REQUESTED A MEDIC
Dogs do this all the time, they attack everyone and when you shoot them they Yelp for help even tho they just got done ripping someone's face off
It's because even someone who was intent on taking someone else's life just a few seconds before, once mortally wounded, knows that they're soon going to meet God as they are. Not a good self-imposed condition to be in.
i mean anyone would cry for help if their bleeding out so im not amazed, but yea he definitely shouldn't of put himself at risk for that.
Well he needs to try because it's all he has. In an active deadly force encounter they even walk past run over dying bystanders. Saw it here once.
This channel and content continues to evolve in an impressive way! As a liberal who believes in being armed for self-protection and protection of others, John and Mike are offering very honest perspectives no matter what political lines people want to draw... an example of misguided community outrage.
Thanks! Glad you appreciate what we do, Alejandro.
I belive that there are issues that the community should be addressing. John and Mike are spot-on about the unique rights we Americans believe are important.
Laws or no laws.
This guy is the one that decided that his life and the officers lives were worth less than a year or two in jail.
He chose this.
It happenend in affect. Its not a clear headed dicision.
100% Facts!
If it was not for the weed (which was part why he was so nervous) he probably could have gotten probation and no jail time as long as he fulfilled other requirements. Sad outcome
True
@@AgoristDryad so the reason that he is carrying an illegal gun and smoking weed which is illegal is the police stopping him? Aight
Why don't criminals just buckle up, go the speed limit, and use their turn signals? I suppose we don't hear from the ones that do but still.
It doesn't always help to obey the traffic laws. I have been told more than once that I am being stopped for not wearing a seatbelt when I never ride in a vehicle without it on. I was really being pulled over because I was in a "bad area" and they wanted to go fishing.
My old man always told me to only break one law at a time!
@@Bearded923 lol
No u don't hear from the ones that do. Also some of these criminals keep the gun in the trunk or under the hood of the car tucked away.
Cops run plates all the time if somethings wrong with the plate they pull you over
“Im ready to give up now”
Too little too late unfortunately, the cost of bad choices. He had plenty of time to think
Facts…
He had the time to think, but not the intellectual capacity.
Well he dropped the gun and distanced himself from it and was helpless when the cop shot him and later forced him to bleed out and die. Maybe the bad choice was dropping his only mans of self defense and expected the officers to treat him as a fellow human being.
@@douglascounts4634 Usually a mistake to expect be treated as a fellow human being by someone after trying to murder that someone.
@@imallergictobullets Yes, that is why we need to have a better selection process to chose cops. And saying he tried to murder them is a stretch as he may have just wanted to use the gun to get them to back off. There may be a hundred times more people that had a gun pointed at them then have actually been shot. Cops for example point a gun at a great many more people than they actually shoot, same even for armed robbers. I'm not saying that cops should let someone point a gun at them, I'm just saying that until that first shot is fired, you can't say for certain. And he never fired at them. So while it was an aggravated assault on a police officer, calling it attempted murder is a stretch.
Just amazes me how Polite they get AFTER they get some lead. Amazing.
The guy doesn't want to die but decided to grab his gun in front of two officers. Definitely stupid. 🙄
You never know whats going through someone's mind I mean come on now do we like this kinda outcome I mean no we hate this kind of outcome everyone should have went home safe "judge not that ye be not judged" my brother is an officer of JSO and this is a sad outcome for all believe me....
@Albert Foxx BS I don't like being pulled over, but I am not that retarded. I also don't have 200 grams of weed on me and carrying a weapon without doing so as is required. The kid was selling dope and got caught; he knew the risk vs. reward. Weed should be legal everywhere and constitutional carry as well, yet to the laws are changed either don't break the law or don't get caught. He got caught
@@albertfoxx2922 you're saying nothing, you're more respectable with your mouth shut.
Not so stupid when he kills the officer and gets away with crime right?
@@thedarkmajesty1773 He's dead now. Your comment is irrelevant now. 😆
Regardless of the Marijuana laws, the guy chose to jump into his vehicle and take off with the officer in the car. This was obviously a bad guy with bad intentions.
So his whole reason to get him into the cop car was based on the gun not being in a holster. What a bullshit reason to elevate the situation.. if the man has a permit for his gun and paperwork for the car then wtf bro?? Like that whole debate about the laws regarding the holster and it being in his jacket after he tried to be upfront and to comply is just ridiculous. The cop didn't have to take it that far & obviously the guy shouldn't have reached but I can get that after such compliance he felt they were looking for a reason.
No, not regardless of marijuana laws, literally because of marijuana laws. What is wrong with you? Why did you even capitalize marijuana?
Give people the ultimatum of going to prison for 20 years or doing something drastic to escape, and you bet your smokey BBQ balls that most people will take drastic measures to be free. If BBQ was illegal, you'd literally be the guy in this video.
Look at it from the officer's perspective. A cop almost died because he is legally obligated to arrest a guy for having weed. Imagine that being your life story; "Killed in the act of protecting the world from marijuana." It's seriously a pathetic thing to put officer's lives on the line for.
@@kpt_forever Dude, you need to look at the big picture. Why did the perp act the way he did? Do you think the gun was legally purchased and owned? Likely not. Perp knew there was more to the story. Looks like there was a 24+ capacity mag in the gun. Not what a typical law abiding citizen would have. Appears he was ready to go if a deal went south on him. Unfortunately, he made a bad choice and it didn't end well. I pray that anyone in his life may be influenced in a positive way due to this guys bad actions.
@@tbl8560 The problem here is you ignore details which leads you to make all these assumptions. There's no "likely" required here, he stated that he had his paperwork (for gun and car) & more than once he offered it to the cop.
For me those are the primary and most important requirements. Weed is becoming legal and probably will be legal everywhere in the future. This man died for having crumbs of weed on his T that's bullshit to me, the cop could've chilled.
If we wanna talk about how they put their lives on the line everyday and so on then in circumstances where its not necessary to be so damn strict, they should also avoid elevating shit.
Bigger picture to me is two things:
#1 A young graduate died
#2 a bit of weed
These things dont balance out. It wasn't necessary for the cop to want to take him into the cop car. Should've checked all paperwork then let the man go let's not forget that the whole reason he claimed to have stopped him was due to a seatbelt which is also another bullshit reason that leads to someone dying.
@@kpt_forever You have to be a BOT no one on earth is that stupid.
The officer did a great job... He even took time to explain the correct way to legally carry in the state.... #niceguy
Great job up until the point where they forced him to bleed out and die while he was unarmed. Lesson to learn from that is that cops don't care about your life, jamming you up is what they live for and forcing someone bleed out and die is the best power rush they can have.
I’m black and never had problems with a traffic stop. I followed instructions, was polite and given a break. Without law enforcement it’d be total anarchy
@@stoiccrane4259 I’m not an ‘exception’. I’m a rational law abiding citizen who respects the law and have common sense and I carry myself with dignity. Yes there’s bad apples in every bunch but at the end of the day when you’re in danger it’s police, people like you and me of different races who have families and live amongst us risk their lives every single day. The liberal politicians and media continue to dehumanize them and incite people to hate all law enforcement. You’d be blind not to see the rampant crime in places where they were defunded, and the loudest anti police proponents have now walked back their vitriol bc of the majority of people oppose it and know full well what it would lead to. These same politicians pay lots of money for their own private armed security yet they want to strip our safety. Look at the mayhem cities who defunded police like Chicago, Baltimore, Portland, NYC, Austin and LA. Criminals perpetuate with total impunity there bc law enforcement are hindered from doing their job and they have liberal DAs who won’t prosecute them. Chicago like NYC inspired no cash bail creating a revolving door for criminals to avoid being taken off the streets. Highlight THIS!
@@RJBuildsPcs Just because that was his experience doesn't mean that the majority of Black people have similar experiences with police while complying. Reading comprehension, man.
Originality of police is slave catching. That's what a police officers was for. Even back then they had a uncle rukus helping them catch slaves. Last time I check the police were the ones who put crack in the black neighborhoods in 80s. Under Reagan use the money to support wars. Remember black people weren't allowed to start voting till 1968. Police cause alot of problems in this country.
I'm white and I do the same thing
@@stoiccrane4259 the data says black people should be afraid of other black people not police. black on black murder is by far the biggest problem in the states.
"Outrage" in the city. As a black man, who gives a sh*t? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Spin it how ya like.
And that's you alls problem right there.... Fix ya adatude..
Yup
@@Chrobeamer what?
Racist cops killed an innocent good boy
@@rolandsmith2555 yea, sure, the second any black person dies to a cop its because they were racist. nice logic. not to mention the cop that shot him was black.
The moment he tried to reach for the firearm, he choosed death... that's on him
Nah fr?
Chose*
@@bandz1of169 Sorry, language barrier, French is my mother tongue...
@@bandz1of169 But still, if you type it like this in google translate, it will translate it as "choisi"... go figure.
@@FastLoad I’m kidding! I usually never correct people I just wanted to see if you’d reply😂 my grammar isn’t perfect either 🤙
I think the officer knew in his heart exactly what was about to happen. Great work by the officers 👮♂️
You don't think with your heart tho
Should have never even been pulled over...he knew something was about to happen because he instigated it
If he knew what was about to happen, he would not have made such a BS stop. Almost lost his life over a seatbelt stop and weed residue.
@@brucesmith1544 yeah he didn't handle the talking part very well. Probably make the arrest first before you tell them what your gonna try and charge them with. Weed ain't shit but he got scared when he told him that he broke the concealed gun law. Probably shouldn't have told him that just yet.
Unfortunately it seemed like a self-fulfilling prophecy
Seen this awhile back. Glad to see you covered it. Our society today is sad, sure the kid was wrong but that officer is going to hear that kid saying ‘please don’t let me die’ for the rest of his life. It is heartbreaking but cop did what he had to do. Kid was wrong.
@@RebelPride1993 any normal human being.
the cop didnt have to rob him and make him fear for his life and attempt to defend it. he didnt do what he had to do, he did what he gets payed to do.
He was illegally carrying a gun and dealing illegal drugs. Now you may say all that should be legal, but for society to function as a society we need to follow the laws our society goes by today, not 100 years ago or we'd be locking up black guys for sitting on the wrong seat on a bus, 200 years ago we'd be hanging young dads for stealing a loaf of bread to feed their starving kids, maybe in a hundred years it will be legal to carry rocket launchers and eat old people, who knows, fact is this guy carried a gun, wasn't bothered about using it, lived a criminal lifestyle in his day and now, thanks to great policing, risking their own lives, he is no longer on our streets:)
@@jacobfernandez6055rob him? fear for his life? wtf are you on about you garbage criminal sympathizer. Only 1 person escalated this to a deadly encounter, and it was the law breaking idiot whos nuts are currently lodged down your throat. Prick.
@@jacobfernandez6055All this man had to do was sit in the back of the patrol car and wait for his citation.
It is so sad this young individual lost his life due to his own actions. Never reach for anything on a traffic stop. Comply Comply and Respectfully Comply. Fight your battles in court!
"Nooo but muh rights and freedoms"😭
💯
Well said 👍
I was thinking do you think that officer shot him because he probably heard banging thinking the kid was shooting during the scuffle? But it was the other officer kicking the door
@@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 Yeah your not entitled to rights and freedoms since you don't believe in them. No more avatar for for you btw evil fire nation lol.
The hypocrisy of the community in situations like this pisses me off... their not mad when they kill a cop their mad when an attempted murderer gets killed??? Where's the logic in this? There isn't any it just shows their true motivation and heart. And fairness doesn't factor in
I live in Jacksonville and there wasn’t any outcry from the community about this ois! 👍
@@Jon-so8kh there usually isn’t in Jax I grew up there all my life and never saw any riots or outcries abs shootings happened all the time
It shows that times are changing and things are coming to an end. Jesus is coming.
No one protested this, and how do you confuse They're and Their yet get it right towards the end? I'd say the majority of our society acts without logic.
I love when the family of a dead criminal goes on TV and says that the guy was planning on going to med school.
That whole setup was like a Quentin Tarantino scene where it looks all calm but you just know something awful is going to happen any second
Lol... You're right!.The only thing that would have made it more "Quinton Tarantino" like is if that house would have exploded and no one even flinched or acknowledged it
@@quietobserver4636 lol
@@quietobserver4636 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro, so true. That scene in Kill Bill Vol 1 with Vivica Fox was tense as hell.
yeah and then that super loud cough as soon as he opens the door scares the crap out of ya
Man I'm so thankful for badge cam footage. It clearly shows the caliber of the officer and suspect in these encounters. No longer can an officer be painted as a hero or villain undeservingly, and no longer can a suspect be painted as a victim or an aggressor undeservingly. I hate this young man went out like this, but sadly he did it to himself.
Johnson: "I'm ready to give up, sir." Well Johnson, you're about 30 seconds too late.
Weird how fast he went from trying to grab a gun to “please, sir”. It would have been a happier outcome if he had just gone where the officer was leading him.
“Please sir don’t let me die.”
Looked to me like he’d have gladly ended both of their lives.
If the gun wasnt stolen all he wouldve gotten was unlawful carry
"it's ok citizen, just get on the train"
Polezei circa 1939
@@CDCK006 low level criminals/unlicensed pharmacists rarely know the laws they break. Riding around with Gun,Weed/Hemp, a scale and the kicker NO SEATBELT. He had his hand the waving at the police to get pulled over. These dudes gotta be brain dead.
@@Teddy-fm9nt i never understood why someone who knows theres guns/drugs in the car dont drive at 100%. Real world police showed me most of these idiots are caught over minor things. Theyre like i got 50 pounds in the car, let me speed, take my seat belt off and wave my gun out the window.
He sure learned a lesson that day, which coincidently was the last lesson he learned.
I like this kinda outcome, THE GOOD GUYS LIVED!!!!
How to avoid being shot by officers, easily don’t go for a deadly weapon or just comply with their orders.
Do I feel bad yes, do I understand why the officers didn’t move in yes. Ever heard of “you can trick me once but not twice”. These officers definitely taking that to heart.
Something about attempting to kill an individual with better fore arms training than 90% of the population just seems like a bad idea.....
@@EasilyCringed i mean it’s still another human being with a family and friends that care for them so it’s hard for a lot of sane ppl to turn off their empathy meters. He deserved it 100% but it’s a sad and unnecessary situation that humans feel the need to pull out a gun and try and kill one another for apparently no reason
Just an unfortunate situation in general. The last thing an officer wants to do is use their firearm
I don't know about anyone else, but my heart does not go out to this guy. He died as a result of his own actions. He basically forced the officer to shoot him, and now the officer has to live with that. The cops aren't always right, but if you do what they say you'll most likely be alive to address those concerns later.
@@tellurye u might want to re-read what he said.
@@tellurye lol I knew you had to have misread it
They shot an UNARMED man. He dropped the gun and moved away from the car. So they were not forced to shoot him at all. At best, they made a mistake. At worst they murdered him because he pissed them off and then forced him to bleed out and die for their personal amusement.
@@douglascounts4634 unarmed? Look up the definition of unarmed. Fight the police in court not the streets. Basic lesson learned the hard way
@@CK-id9tr Maybe you need to look up the definition. I realize facts that go against one's narrative cause Cognitive Dissidence. So, I'll go slow. Where was the gun we he got shot? Was it in the car or was it in his hand when he was shot outside the car? Cognitive Dissidence can be emotionally uncomfortable, so chew on it a while and think on it. But accepting the truth can be emotionally painful, especially when you see so many others here unwilling to accept that truth too. But it is part of the ugly side human nature.
He was the most unusually polite criminal I've ever seen, all things considered lol.
@Scary Storytelling Only law he broke was weed laws. And if you think weed laws need or should be enforced shows that you either dont know what you are talking about or are so clouded with what Rich politicians WHO SMOKE WEED ANYWAYS tell you what to do with your life.
@Scary Storytelling There are 10's of thousands of laws like the Florida law this man violated that are totally victimless and should not exist. The law in this case is what caused the violence. My point is I bet you have violated a host of laws unwittingly and you might be the nicest guy.
He was apparently a college student.
@@sheldondinkleberg6525 No i dont think you should be shot or arrested for smoking weed. That said dead dummy shouldn't have made a run for it just take your damn ticket if your smoking but he was riding around with a bunch and a scale I.E. distribution. Which in my eyes hell is simple enterprise. But in the governments its illegal. Vote to get that changed.
@@sheldondinkleberg6525 shooting cops is worse than selling weed.
When he said he was going to die, that got me. That was the worst thing to hear in war, hearing people who knew their time was up.
Yeah that was hard to hear!
Just hearing him scream was horrific, knowing why and that his pain was real. Sad
Sad? He asked for it.
6:00 "I'm ready to give up."
Now if only you'd come to that conclusion 3 minutes earlier. And you've gotta love the "I can't breathe" line. At least he knows the script.
Lung shot. Lungs collapse as air gets in the chest cavity stopping them expand as you try to breathe & also fill with blood.
It's hard to forget the script when you're being choked to death for selling untaxed cigs.
@@-elijahriggs- I heard he was choked during a scuffle he started while trying to resist arrest. I guess I need to watch more CNN.
@@-elijahriggs-
He was saying ‘I can’t breathe’ when he was being put in the back of the cruiser. That’s why he got pulled back out, he was freaking out and resisting.
You've said it before, Mike: You may outrun the cop, you might even outrun the car, but you are NOT going to outrun the Motorola.
Initial interaction suggests the kid was thinking mostly clearly at first, but it degraded, and at the point he decided to flee, the only word that comes to mind is "contaminated".
"Please don't let me die"
Immediately after trying to kill someone. What a selfish prick!
Hot lead in the body is a reality check, he would never have helped the officer he just tried to murder
Selfish prick? From his perspective, he was minding his own business when this guy walks up and tries to kidnap him and steal his possessions. I'm not saying he was right in what he did, but these cops were going to take everything from him (years in prison means losing pretty much everything). When you take everything away from a man, you should not be surprised when he acts like a man with nothing left to lose.
@@Gogeta70 I agree, the man was about to lose it all over a plant?? And he was pleading for his life my heart has to go out to him. I agree he deserved to get shot for going for the gun but it still just sucked to watch. He was clearly scared
He was UNARMED the running AWAY from the firearm when they shot him OUTSIDE the car. So..., when they shot him he wasn't trying to kill anyone, was no imminent threat to the officers, and after he was shot and fully compliant, they USED HIS COMPLIANCE to kill him by not even allowing him to give first aid to himself. Yes, someone was a selfish prick.
Watch ur mouth Jit
I'm just seeing this video today... and cannot believe how different you look AND how accustomed I've become to your "new look"
As a Canadian, I can say that your founding fathers were more than geniuses in including the second amendment as a tyrannical government such as Trudeau would never happen in the great USA
Huh lol ?
You mean Joe "trudeau" Biden
They're trying sadly but we won't let em
@@raulmachado182 what’re you confused about?
LMAOOOO how bad are you looking for opportunities to make it about your opinion? I bet you scour the internet looking to make it about yourself and your views LMAO
Lesson 1:
If you really don't want to die, don't do things that will get you killed.
Don't go reaching for things, hiding things, lying to officers. It was just
weed--until it wasn't. Don't be stupid! Go to jail and live to tell about it.
Exactly and getting caught with weed now a days is weak probably just a fine Unless your selling probably a couple nights in jail but if your moving bud can’t really complain cuz you chose for it to be your income lol
@@entertainmentonly5842 But here is the thing.. Weed has never killed anybody except for robberies because its illegal which makes it worth more. $250 average for an ounce. This is the fault of weed being illegal since 1937. Which every reason needs to be examined, timber industry, alcohol, racist remarks about blacks/Mexicans smoking it. Some prick made it illegal for military including the horses who needed it. Im all for this cop not living, he started it.
Very funny that you think your little advice is going to deter crime. Criminals don’t care about what’s legally right. Instead of wasting your time typing useless comments on YT do something good of your life and actually get into the real world making a change. It makes me cringe that people typing this think this is going to do anything and it’s very funny y know
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Feed yourself more of this. Let see what other lessons you’re going to spout. I prefer if you skip to 7:00 please 😂
@@thedarkmajesty1773 You have no idea what I think or believe. I think it's very funny that you are replying to my comment. Go back in your hole.
The perp cared about what is legally right when he stated, "don't let me die!"
I love how you always got new content everyday!! I a huge supporter for the A.S.P!!!!!
Finding new daily content in this world? Easy peasey. Illogical, crazy, violent world.
This ones quite old
Do you really love it? That means that there is endless crime. That makes you happy? Your thirst for entertainment is quenched now?
From watching some of these videos, it seems like closing the person’s car door once you get them out would be a big help. Also, I saw an ER show once where the ER doc said that when people say they’re dying, they usually are, so it creates a sense of urgency for the docs.
I've noticed officers leaving suspects in front of an open car door leading to terrible outcomes on numerous occasions. This is the latest example but I also seem to recall a similar situation in the Kim Potter shooting, and I'm sure others.
Officers really need to move people away from the door to the vehicle and sit them on a curb while they sort things out. Leaving them the option to dive into the car if they want seems to me to be allowing bad situations to develop.
lol it wouldve been the same
I think the officer really wanted to send him on his way, but the situation just deteriorated to the point where he was gonna just put him in the car, and even then probably wanted to just issue of warning or citation before sending him on his way. The guy was moving and reaching all around, maybe thinking he could just speed or shoot his way out of trouble, which ultimately got him killed.
Get the cuffs on him if he's being fishy. Period.
100%. They need to detain people away from their vehicles… or at least close the door first
Im glad you finally got to this one. What a strange situation with a lot of lessons to learn.
This channel had steadily become my favorite
You gotta see the OG vids then haha
@@MrMikeSam facts
@@MrMikeSam Whats up with them?
@@MrMikeSam I have been going back to catch up with all the old stuff lol.
@James Martin much better
"AHHHH AHHHHH IM READY TO GIVE UP NOW" Yeah I bet you are lmfao
😂😂😂😂
“I don’t wanna die” *
*grabs for gun*
Cop: so you’ve chosen death
😂
My hometown…Very sad that he made that choice…Glad the Officer got to go home at the end of his shift…This will affect him indefinitely in some form…
Thanks for the breakdown!
🦋Lily🦋
Why is that sad? Thug dead. Good.
thank god they took out the trash. he will be happy to know he did the world a favor.
It is not going to bother him, he will be bragging about it to his friends over a few beers tomorrow.
You are sooooo right. Thugs like this deserve exactly what they deserve.
That is a very thoughtful and compassionate comment Lily. You are proof that some people are worth knowing.
Great work officer, Glad you are making are Community’s safer.
Thank you guys for your honesty about marijuana it's crazy to think how many people would be out of jail and Alive is marijuana was legal from the get-go
“Can I search your vehicle?”
No
“What are you hiding?” Always how it goes
what do u have t o hide mr criminal? its a car search not a butt cheek check
@@SirPraiseSun The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized….Fourth amendment.
Always reply with "my privacy".
@@namenome3680 how about fuck that and fuck tyranny. If they have no reason to search they can fuck right off.
It's crazy how these types of shooting can effect people. Dude was alert enough to be moving and begging for help but he was dead a few moments later.
...... from my experience shooting victims know they are going to pass.......
@@robaxl3088 weed being illegal and 2nd amendment restrictions didn't exactly help either. But yeah considering the perp knew what the BS law was, then tried to run and grab the gun sealed the deal for him. All things considered it still hurt my heart the way he said please god help me I don't want to die, help i'm dying!
@@johntaranto29 I agree. It wasn't the BS laws that got him killed. It was his own actions. Honestly, he had no priors and was apparently a good college student. There's a chance he could have gotten out of this with reduced charges.
@@johntaranto29 weed isn’t illegal in Florida 😂😂
@@amirjones09 Recreational is. Prescribed is not. The dumbass did not even give the cop a chance to prove it was prescribed. He just signed his death sentence when he reached for that gun.
The majority of the conversation he had with the officer was about his firearm which was in the car. This is why when he tried jumping back in the car it became a major safety threat for the officers.
"Don't let me die!!!" After he tries to shoot the officer... brilliant.
I agree with Mike, completely preposterous choices we're made.
Always wear your seatbelt and obey the traffic laws to the best of your ability.
This Is a complete mess. It all comes down to the cops, and this cop was doing a great job of de-escalation, unfortunately the driver decided to escalate this to a whole new level. It sucks that he put this cop in the position of "Judge, Jury, and Executioner" when he decided to go for the gun to murder the cop.
I feel like the cop would’ve gone easy on him too had the guy just cooperated
I dont understand why the cop didnt take the guy to the backside of the vehicle. By standing in the door he gave the guy a chance to grab anything inside… And he kept repeating the same questions making the guy even more nervous. Just take him back, detain him if needed, and search the vehicle. How difficult can it be???
I hear you, but I disagree with the assessment. He actually made the cop choose between submission and self preservation. Bad bet for any aggressor.
@@pabl1to33 What do you mean? The cop asked the guy to come with him to the cop car and the guy asked if he can grab something out of his car then immediately decided to get his gun. Before this point this guy had broken the law by carrying a concealed weapon illegally that is law. So if the individual would've held his cool, the cop would've cited and let him on his way. This guy was an idiot 100% and nothing can change that and don't excuse his dumb actions.
@@pabl1to33 yes the cops could’ve done more, that’s what this video is about, but the cops didn’t do anything wrong. They reacted how was necessary to the guy getting in his car and then pulling the pistol.
I agree with both your views on marijuana. Props to both of you for actually understanding.
I love how quickly their attitude changes after they get shot. People were outraged about this? Dude tried to draw his pistol on some cops over a minor violation.
the second he got shot he said "nevermind i changed my mind im not gonna shoot please save me instead"
Seems about right...typical
2:09 Cop is giving the guy time to make a plan.
You are pulling him out or not... Don't warn him and put your plans up for review.
True . He definetly need more training . But i think it's cause the criminal was polite .
@@xinggaming9500 yup and that's why we don't get officers who breathe anything except their own ass air because people are like this. If I'm speeding, an in officer will treat me worse than this. Plus fuck the cop for the weed smell bS
Not only is it perfectly _acceptable_ to refuse a search, it's what you _should_ do regardless of whether there is anything illegal in the vehicle or not. There is literally no reason to *ever* let an officer search your vehicle. Nothing good can come of it.
Edit for clarification: I am not advocating that you refuse to follow lawful orders, I'm saying that you should refuse any *voluntary* search.
Just don't do anything illegal, simple.
@@cmart355 Doesn't matter. At best they'll tear your car to shreds, and at worst they'll plant something. We all know it happens. Never consent to a search, PERIOD.
And never talk to the cops. Best advice my lawyer ever gave me.
Neither from trying to shoot a police officer.
I agree with asserting your rights and maintaining them. I think, had he done that and just let him check the gun, he would have been on his way with maybe a summons.
To me the most important lesson, and one that needs to be hammered home again and again by community leaders and everyone else: When you have an interaction with law enforcement, don't resist arrest. If your civil rights have been violated, take it to court. Even if you end up in front of a judge like this fella would have, what's better - a trip to court or a trip to the morgue?
Look at almost every high-profile police lethal shooting case that makes the media rounds: if the person hadn't resisted arrest, they live another day.
That is so right but so wrong at the same time. It sucks doesn’t it.
i really believe this was a result of the fear the media has driven about police interactions. He was so afraid to have an officer touch him, that he got the result he was afraid of.
That was stupid. He basically asked to get shot
It’s not so stupid when he shoots and kills the cops is it?
"Please, don't let me die, sir." That guy literary regretted his life choices.
As a black 🇨🇦 female living in the 🇺🇸 I have been pulled over by LE. I immediately turn on my dome light and put both hands on my steering wheel and I speak full Canadian, eh 😊
I answer politely in a very soft voice and always ask for permission to get ‘out’ my documents. They usually send me off with a warning. I thank them and apologize for whatever they said I did wrong. Works every time.
I think the officer really wasn’t looking to jam this dude over the gun. Florida cops are often very chill about guns, it is the gunshine state after all. He didn’t slap the cuffs on for carrying the gun improperly even though he could. Bad tactics though, you should never talk to somebody next to the open door of their car, especially when you are going to tell them they might be in trouble. Could have avoided the whole thing by just walking him back to the police car before having that whole conversation about weed flakes and proper carry of the firearm, and still kept it chill.
most clearminded, underrated comment. 100% agree.
The firearm doesn't have to be in a holster AND in a locked compartment or container in florida - the officer misrepresented the law, likely due to being mistaken.
The law doesn't require a holster, it states "securely encased" which could be in the glove box (locked or not) in a shoe box with the lid closed, or in a holster that has a snap.
It's his job not to be "mistaken".
Definitely wasn’t mistaken but you’re right.
Tucked in a jacket?
@@QuasiRandomViewer I didn't say the guy was carrying according to the law. I said the officer misrepresented the law.
Merely wrapped in a jacket doesn't technically satisfy the law (though it could if the pocket had a zipper and was closed).
@@Stormclowe Interesting. Do you know if being in a zippered pocket is clearly accepted as "securely encased", or is that a grey area open to legal debate?
I love your content! Thank you breaking this down the way you did. If I saw this on CNN I would of been pissed thinking they just shot another black guy. You took the time to explain it frame by frame and it made sense. Thank you so much and please keep this content coming!!
The cop is black, no?
if you look at crime data you'll know that "just shot another black guy" is a complete lie. the reason they get shot is because they are a threat. that's what these videos show and that's what the data say. there are a few outliers of course, but the data doesn't lie.
The compliance after they get shot is astounding....where was it before?
There should be no such thing as illegally carrying a firearm if you arent prohibited from carrying. If you are allowed to carry you should be able to carry that firearm in any way shape or form.
Lol no, just no
You should be legally able to sell drugs and carry a firearm w an extended magazine because even drug dealers need protection; great logic!
@@aj6182 What are you even talking about lol
I will say, the young man had it coming. Reaching for a gun, with other guys that have guns… of course you will get shot.. obviously. But I will also say him laying on the ground being very cognizant in that moment of the fact he could (and ultimately did) die, while begging not to die, is kinda sad. Especially if you’ve ever been in a position where you really think you’re about to die, how terrifying that is
and never been arrested before and a college student selling weed. barley drugs.. having the gun is stupid for 200 grams.. that’s like a couple hundred bucks.. stupid
He should have valued his life more before reaching then, don't feel sad man over this POS
Dude was being hella cool. Then wanted to win a stupid prize....
Be cool with cops, don't grab a gun, and you usually get away with a ticket..
I've been stopped whilst carrying and always have my hands out or against window. Never any problems.
"Please don't let me die after i tried to kill you"
Sure pal you made the smart choice
Dudes attitude changed fast when he got shot “im ready to give up” like this guy was scared for a reason and the officer knew it. You wouldn’t be afraid or twitchy if you had nothing to hide. This guy was trying every which way to get his gun cause he kept asking if he could get irrelevant papers the officer never asked for. Police aren’t dumb and they definitely a better shot than you so just don’t try and kill a cop unless you have a death wish and this guy certainly had that
@@drumhailer547 he wasn't on a mission to kill cops so he wasn't gonna go down like that
They’re a better shot than you? Fr?
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Watch this video. For the moment, just shut your mouth. Skip to 7:00 please :)
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They’re a better shot than you? Fr???? Watch this video as well
I’ve never been in this position and I pray I don’t ever find myself here but, I’ve always wondered how you’re supposed to stay still or stop moving when you’ve been shot? I get that emotions are so high on both ends but that’s one thing I’ve never understood is how you’re supposed to stay still after being shot. Sad situation all around both to the man who lost his life and the officer who had to take it.
@Sean Bryan Lol just like that. Plain and simple huh?
America never ceases to amaze me, and I mean this in the best way. I've lived in several countries and it's only in the US that I can conceive of cops acting consistently with politness and professionalism, despite a very real and constant threat to their safety being ever present. Yet this is so often taken advantage of by the dregs of society.
I gotta say I agree with John and actually liked the guy asserting his rights. Unfortunately, he made the wrong choice when he went back in the vehicle and the police did what they had to.
I'll never understand how these guys think they're going to shoot their way out from a disadvantage. I'm always trying to figure out their thought process but it always come up blank.
Yes, you’re here critiquing this mans thought process but if he was smart and killed this cop then it’s a whole different thing. Just be glad we have dumb civilians and shut it.
They don't think that, they are semi suicidal
@Sean Bryan More stupid replies :)
@@alvinhickling6118 Lmao nice insult. Now shut it will ya
@@bjchit Dont got a problem what’s yours?
Question for the LEOs here: why not move the driver to the rear of the car immediately so that it's not as easy to jump back in the car and get the firearm and drive away?
Exactly bad tactics
@@zuluking5196 That makes sense but definitely doesn't excuse the perps actions.
Because they wanted to murder a man for exercising his 2nd Amendment rights. Cops hate competition.
Sometimes you use the open door to trap the suspect so that they cannot run. You can feel their energy when you take them out, and he probably felt he was going to run..
Thank you for your intelligent and rational position on legalization. The officer really was as nice as could be. Perp made an incredibly bad decision. When you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
Guy has gun...tries to grab said gun. Gets shot. "Please dont let me die sir". You reap what you sow.
@Daniel Stevenson sowed the seeds of death
@Daniel Stevenson Corn
😂 he picked a great time to start praying. More of this please!
“As a cop I was nervous when getting pulled over by the cops” I’ve never heard anything more relatable💯
Perp: "Imma kill you!"
Aware, trained LEO defending himself: Blam! Blam! Blam!
Perp: "I don't wanna die!"
HAHAHAH HE SAID “I can’t breathe”
When he literally just tried to kill two officers with his car.
Yes, have to love that excuse
The standard response from arrested thugs.
You knew how this was going to go.... well done officers.
This is all about a natural plant that makes people peaceful?
Get ready, all the junkies are going to come out of the woodwork and persecute you now for saying that.
I don't think your getting it right.
I dint realize , weed was supposed to make you okay withb goin to Jail . Lol .
Yes, heroic police officer, who would have taken this Florida citizen to prison for 5-10 years. We are not talking about Meth or Fentanyl, we are talking about ending this man's life and freedom, he clearly made a terrible decision, but it's also a terrible situation. End the war on drugs.
@@MrPots69 he tried to
6:51 That officer telling him to stop moving would be difficult to achieve because when the body is losing blood, the person becomes anxious and restless! Making movements is unavoidable.
I wouldn't have even bothered stopping this dude for a seatbelt.
Then you wouldn't have found 200 grams of weed or a gun.
He didn’t really stop him for the seatbelt, that was just a legal excuse to see who the guy is and what he’s doing.
When a cop asks if you mind if he search your car, the right thing to say is "As long as you get a warrant, then you may search my car." Make them keep it by the book.
I hate when people like you have to make lectures about the law just because this situation went downhill for this man. But when it comes to “man kills cop” then y’all go raging behind your pillows.
@@thedarkmajesty1773 lol do you have down syndrome? What lecture? He just made a good and obvious fact. I 100% support law enforcement but idc who you are nobody can intrude on your shit without a reason and a warrant.
@@MoYammaBatFitch A fact, a lecture, take it as you please. The thing is y’all act like y’all know this guy or the judgement of this guy when y’all don’t. You all have no right to talk as to what he should and shouldn’t have done. The reasons as to why he made the choice he made is beyond anyone. Tossing stupid facts like it’s gonna make a difference is so freaking cringe. Y’all talk and flap your mouths while the world does what it does.
@@thedarkmajesty1773 you’re the one with a flappy mouth. You get way into your emotions, you’re a weirdo. He just stated a fact, nobody cares about your little rant it’s totally out of place and you’re just making a clown of yourself. Nobody asked for your opinion maybe retire from the TH-cam comment approval team because you’re stressing over nothing lol
@@thedarkmajesty1773 the guy never said “HE SHOULDVE SAID OR DONE THIS” etc.. he literally just stated that the right thing to do in a situation like this is to ask for the warrant before they search. are you really that dense?
If you’re going to possess an illegal substance and illegally carry a firearm, at least obey the traffic laws so you don’t get pulled over like this. And if you do, just comply with the officers , especially if they know you are carrying a gun. This could’ve gone so much better. Yeah the guy would’ve been in trouble for illegally carrying a firearm and possibly being in possession of an illegal substance, but still, it wasn’t worth giving up his life for.
Just goes to show that it isent excactly the mental elite were dealing with ...
Some people can't handle the mentality of prison. It is what it is. I don't blame em. Id rather lose my life entirely than lose it to prison.
Imagine fucking with someone because they don’t have a seatbelt on. Get the boot out your mouth Karen
Both the plant and the gun should not be illegal to carry. One should not have to produce papers in the form of a permission slip to use the 2nd amendment.
Change the laws so this guy would have gotten a ticket and be on his way.
With that being said... He should not have jumped back in the car. Bad laws and his reaction ended with his death.
His first offense; would’ve been a slap on the wrist… he would’ve went to jail but released before officer got off shift.
I love how he screams lmaoo and then begs to not die like he wasn’t going to try and kill those coos
It pisses me off that they start asking for help and mercy from the very same people they had none for.
Exactly, would have killed them and fled.
“Kind of a rough part of town.” That’s all of Jax lol Riverside has multimillion dollar mansions on the St. John’s and a street over there’s decrepit homes with bars on the windows.
Reminds me of up here in DC, we got the white House and apartments beside it for 3000 bucks a month lol which who tf can afford that.. And on the same corner there literally a homeless colony. Tourists can come see the white House and the president and get robbed all on the same block 😂😂
Yep. Houses on the river are crazy high priced and then a few streets over it’s basically crack town.
“I’m scared of police.”
Translation: “I’m scared of being arrested for the crimes I have committed.”
The police are still enforcing unconstitutional laws enjoy the boot you have soo far up your ass
@@Phiery Laws are made by legislators, not police. The place to change the law is the ballot box, not at a roadside traffic stop. Grow up, kids. No decent human being would try to kill someone to avoid jail.
No criminal record. Adjust your priors.
Translation hold this ratio big fella
@@dandangalodangalus9082 his life was over when they stopped him. People have fight or flight responses and picked the wrong one
Great case review as always. ASP could use more emphasis from a MEDICAL perspective.
After the perp was shot you can see him roll over and his white shirt is soaking with blood on his left chest/shoulder. This means that once the scene is secure Injuries (TAP IFFS) likely include an axillary junctional bleed (wound packing), chest seals (entry and exit wounds), and needle decompression (tension pneumothorax), oh yeah and blood transfusion.
It’s a shame how poorly our medical colleagues share specific information with those directly involved and the public. Hospital systems and HIPAA laws are largely to blame.
-carry that IFAK
I have absolutely no problem with how it all went down, the officer was trying to be cool, and then they had to react. The one thing that does bother me though... You got the the guy. He's shot, bleeding out on the ground, pleading for his life. You have backup.... They could've easily applied life saving services while literally holding a gun to his head in case he still tried something.
@@garthhunt7238 did he disserve to be shot? hell yeah. He also disserved a second chance at life. specially with no criminal record. The guy was leaking life.. holes in his side and most likely had a punctured lung filling with blood.. I want to see you try to sit still under those circumstances.
His unconscious body entering rigor mortis moves more then his attempt at self preservation. And then they move in.. after they see rigor mortis. shame.
@@garthhunt7238 lol ok you get shot, and try not moving 😂 you obviously missed the point
@@ggxavier9263 That's his problem. The cops are justifiably more interested in their own safety.
@@ThePsychoReturnsokay, have that same mindset if it unfortunately happens to you,
your friends, your family.. id love to see if you feel the same way.
@@ThePsychoReturns Here, watch what really brave cops do & maybe you can learn something as simple as compassion for life.
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Also why a lot of states have made seatbelts a secondary offence meaning you can't be pulled over solely for not having your seatbelt. So many nit-pick things cops use to pull people over unfortunately mostly in rough neighborhoods and then use that to look for the things they actually want to (warrants, people with drugs/alcohol visible, and these sorts of things)
Terrible that cops have a reason to catch criminals with warrants? If you follow the law you don't get pulled over. Pretty simple. Rich or poor it takes 2 seconds to put your seatbelt on.
Then buckle your stupid seat belt! It's not that difficult.
the seatbelt law isn't about nit-picking. its about saving peoples lives.
You fish where the fish are at.
The only thing that you do when you say no for a police officer to search your vehicle is you make them towe it and get a warrant that's it
My biggest problem with the whole "probable cause" thing is alot of times the officers will lie just to search a car. This happened to me 4 years ago, the officer said he smelled Marijuana coming from my car (never smoked a day in my life) which gave them "enough" to search my car. Of course they didn't find anything but it held me up for over an hour.. I felt extremely denied of my rights plus lost respect for police after that, so it frustrates me when people talk about "probable cause". If the cops feel like searching your car their going to no matter what you do or say, it's messed up.