Steven Universe: The Movie Group Reaction
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I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Sarah Stiles STOLE the movie with Spinel! She was fantastic! Harley Quinn levels of both psychotic and lovable!
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I love the fact that Spinel was made to be as obnoxious as they could in order to make one understand why Pink Diamond left her, but instead, ppl felt in love with her. I blame Sarah Stiles
Spinel was so good in this movie that seing her in future makes me sad, total character assasination imo
Ikr? She ate with Spinel.
I really loved and shed a tear when i heard Steven's chorus in "True Kinda Love"
I love how the diamonds went from intergalactic merciless overlords to "your racist aunties who are trying to do better but haven't nailed it yet"
They're honestly hilarious in this movie
That's such a good analogy
“She prefers to be called Steven”. Confused trans allies too lmao
@@thehippydisnerd4887 "His pronouns are they/them" vibes
Well... they got better... Having in consideration how they used to be, I say they went through an amazing development. Yellow dismantled her army and is controlling well her temper, Blue is no longer depressed and making everyone else cry and White (even if strugling) is trying her best to treat everyone else with equality.
Spinel's backstory highlights one of the biggest tragedies of Pink Diamond - she never understood how much she meant to everyone else.
She got with Greg and had Steven - not understanding how she was breaking Pearl's heart and hurting Garnet and Amethyst.
She faked her own shattering, because she thought the other diamonds didn't care about her - causing the Corruption and devastating her own loyal gems and Yellow & Blue.
She told Spinel to stand very still, expecting her to get bored and leave eventually - not realising just how devoted Spinel was.
Pink Diamond thought very little of herself and that was very much the other Diamonds fault, but that self-hatred was something she projected back outwards, believing everyone else thought as little of her as she thought of herself.
So true
Holy shit I never looked at it that way! That's so clever!
Very correct. It was how it looked like if you actually payed attention to her character lol but it was also confirmed by the book. Pink Diamond's self esteem is so low that even she wouldn't trust herself with decisions.
perfect summation of her character! she’s truly the complete opposite of white diamond; white put herself on a pedestal and viewed everyone else as beneath her, while pink/rose put everyone else on a pedestal and viewed herself as beneath them.
It's probably why Pink becomes obsessed with the notion of change as she learns about earth, humanity, etc. and that reflects how she feels about herself. She fears that she will never grow to be better. It's why she becomes excited at the prospect of having Steven even at the cost of her own life (which is near worthless by her own measure), the notion of making a person, a gem that can change, grow, and become better where she cannot.
Fun fact: Steven's VA used to deepen his voice in season 1, but for the last season he had to make it higher. So midway through the show is his regular octaves. The creators aged him up to around his VA's age so he didn't have to strain his voice!
This! I don't even think it's that he got much better at singing it's that he can sing in a more comfortable range now :]
@@kiwiparfaitsthere’s a video of him singing in stevens voice at a con and his face got SO red; you can tell how much he strained to do it
I swear, it's crazy to think that Zach had remained Steven's voice actor throughout the entire series despite that he went through puberty as the show went on.
Honestly, I could see why he took a break after SU ended. It was probably murder on his throat.
Poor dude lol
At least finn grew up normally so his VA didnt have to force a young voice.
Man can you imagine waiting for 6,000 years in one spot? Who wouldn’t go insane?!
I swear, ever since the movie had come out, people have been leaving comments on the Steven Universe episodes that came before the movie talking about how Spinel was still waiting in the garden. You can never see the show the same way again after watching the movie.
@@tainamichelle2683 to be fair, the show is only a very small part of the overall wait, majority of it was the civil war and crystal gems chilling on earth
I can barely sit still for 6 minutes, man xd
"Only 6,000 year? That's nothing🤣"- Yellow
What's worse? 6000 years of standing still in an empty garden. Or 5000 years of being trapped in a mirror with nothing to do but show people images whenever they asked. It's too bad Lapis and Spinel never get a scene together. They have a weird amount in common.
Spinel: After everything I did you couldn't possibly want me around now
Lapis: Don't be so hard on yourself. You were alone for a long time and were understandably upset
Spinel: Steven tried to help me but all I did was lash out at him
Lapis: You weren't that bad
Spinel: I beat up his friends
Lapis: You're a noncombatant gem who hadn't moved for thousands of years. If they lost to you then they needed the workout anyway
Spinel: I destroyed his dad's arm
Lapis: That was an accident. And Steven healed it so who cares?
Spinel: I almost wiped out all life on the planet.
Lapis: Well how was I supposed to know the ocean was that important!!!
Spinel: What?
28:45 That was intentional from Rebecca Sugar. In a book that was released after Steven Universe future, it was revealed that the Diamonds were created with the principle of enantiodromia; a concept that says that any extreme power will unconsciously produce its opposite. Yellow always thought of herself as very strong, when, in reality, she was very weak, collapsing any time she opened herself to her feelings of grief and guilt. Blue always thought that she was the most empathetic of the four thanks to her powers, but she never cared for anyone other than herself; when confronting the crystal gems in Garnet's wedding, she was doing it for her, not for Pink. White saw herself as flawless and and above everyone else, but she is the most imperfect of the Diamonds, becoming speechless the moment someone who she saw as beneath her criticizes her. And Pink always thought that she was extremely weak, when in fact she was so strong that she ended up hurting and destroying everyone else's life, to the point of becoming very self-destructive.
And even when she became Rose, Pink never quite changed. It's understandable she would keep her lie, since that was what brought the Crystal Gems together, but if you notice, she still never took anything serious and took everything and everyone for granted. The very fact that she decided to have a child, knowing she would cease to exist, without even considering the consequences that would have later on, both to her kid and to her loved ones, is proof of that. I mean, both Pearl and Greg got heartbroken... and Steven was the one that had to clean up the mess his mother left behind.
Exactly and I think they made the perfect concept of never showing her being alive and with Steven and making it seem like everyone needed and misses her but she will forever be gone and we will have to live with that
The scene where Peridot frets over loosing her character development is so funny cause not only does it break the fourth wall, but it also fits her character considering that might have been something she’s picked up from all the shows she’s watched on earth.
Is it still a 4th wall break if the thing that is being referenced exists in the world's reality?
@@t3rm1nat0r4 it both is and isn't at the same time. or... it's just bordering on a 4th wall break, but not actually breaking it
@@warriorcatkitty cracking the forth wall maybe?
Fun facts about Steg: Steg seems to be a fusion of mainly Steven's floating and strength powers rather than his shields, and as a fusion he has the power to lift up those around him too! Not only that, but his voice actor in real life is married to the woman who voices Opal, making their song a duet between couples in studio!
They're not married actually, but they did form a rock duo band together
Spinel poofed out of grief. Her pain was so intense that her body physically couldn’t handle it. And there’s a popular theory that the same thing actually happened to Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl after Rose passed her Gem on to Steven
Gem equivalent to s*icide according to rebecca
Don’t you mean diamond?
Spinel is such an amazing villain. Harley Quinn levels of loveably psychotic, "Her Other Friends." is a banger villain song, I love her old timey animation stretchy limbs, and she has one of the saddest backstories of any cartoon villain. Dark fact: Rebecca explained why Spinel's gem flipped, was because she felt so many emotions in the moment she realized the truth, almost being on the verge of a "s***ide" of her light form.
I love her.
So instead she decided to become a school sh*oter and off Pink and all her friends
I also heard she based Spinel of something she lived. When she was a girl she lost a teddy bear she had, when she found it a year later the bear had a spot bleached by the sun.
@@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902 Not a teddy bear: a rabbit toy.
@@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902 I got some crazy *Everything stays* vibes from Spinel
I love that in Steven Universe you are led to believe he has healing spit as opposed to his mother's healing tears, but in reality he has healing kisses, because he doesn't cry over losses, he kisses to make things better.
Well, he did cry when Lars died.
Their powers and what does what just flipped.
@@HenrythePaleoGuy I think it’s just that he does have her powers, healing tears included, but uses them in ways she didn’t, or at least in ways we didn’t see. He can use healing tears, but it’s not his natural way of using it, as seen in the episode he unlocks his “healing spit” where the entire plot shows him failing to use healing tears
Spinel upon finding out after 6000 years promptly poofed from a literal heart break and reformed into what she is now.
In human terms she died from a heart attack.
Boom: Throw her into space
Human equivalent would be dying due to complications after developing takotsubo cardiomyopathy 😢
The Diamonds in this movie are like THOSE aunts or THOSE grandparents. You love them to death, but they're kinda exhausting to be around and somehow everytime you go visit them to just drop something off or pick something up real quick you somehow end up staying there for an hour even though you absolutely do not have that kinda time
They got that Big Aunt Energy
They said they were gonna cancel the show because of the wedding, but rebecca sugar fought for it and they ended up cancelling the show, but then they remembered that steven universe is one of the most succesful shows on cartoon network and they gave rebecca the chance to develop a movie and another series to wrap everything up.
They are giant idiots tbh. Like stu could have gone on for ages. There's a billion fuses we never got to see. And I feel like future is lacking. The final diamond resolution could have been seasons away and built up to and delivered properly, instead of how we got it. I honestly didn't know that the wedding was why it was cancelled and that makes me even madder. Giant idiots.
Bonus points for putting the more “masculine” Ruby in a dress, and the more “feminine” Sapphire in a suit, just as an extra middle finger to the countries that Dub Ruby into a man.
all this noise bc two people who love each other kissed. if it was a hetero relationship they wouldn't be whining abt it. so much for bigotry.
29:18 It's interesting that you bring this up because this is the exact inspiration for Spinel's character. A plush that Rebecca Sugar left in her garden one day and when she came across it again she was struck by how it faded through time despite it still being in the exact same place.
This story is also the inspiration to the "everything stays" song from Adventure Time special "Stakes"
@@TheXHead1thank u I was just about to say that too the song is very perfect for spinel and pink diamonds status
random fun fact: when the diamonds are singing “let us adore you”
Yellow and White actually say
“..you know what it meant to love her and you remind us so much of her”
Whilst Blue says
“..you know what it meant to love hear and you remind ME so much of her”
I’m not 100% sure why but i’m pretty sure they used this to show Blue and Pinks close relationships compared to the other diamonds
If you remember, it was Blue who created the Human Zoo and that was because Pink told her she wanted to preserve the life on Earth. Neither Yellow nor White would even consent on that. But Blue had a special attachment to Pink, even if, in the end, she would still disregard her feelings. Steven even made that comment when Blue came to talk to him after he and Connie were placed in that tower, where he asked how many times Blue (and the others) made her cry. And that was enough to convince Blue of the wrongs she was doing, since that moment made her realize how she and the other Diamonds failed Pink and that was the reason why she left.
Fun fact: in adventure time Marceline sings a song that was written for spinel or at least about this moment. Rebecca wrote it bc of a stuff toy she left behind when she was younger in the garden... the same way rose left spinel and how marceline has hanbo
“Let’s go in the garden,
You’ll find something waiting,
Right there where you left it
Lying upside-down.
When you fin’ly find it,
You’ll see how it’s faded,
The underside is lighter,
When you turn it around…”
Rebecca sugar using her childhood trauma to hurt thousands of people is kind of iconic
“I just wanna be a friend.”
God, that always kills me.
Being abandoned by the being you quite literally were made for really does a number on ya. Spinel was definitely my favorite character in the movie.
The movie was fantastic. The songs were fun, and memorable, love how Spinel was animated. Also, spinel deserved better
She really did, unfortunately Pink wasn't mature enough to understand the ramifications of her actions at that point. Shame Spinel never got to see her at her best even if that too wasn't perfect.
Spinel was honestly the best part of the movie for me. Seeing how she is a rubber hose inspired character, what role she played in the film really made her stand out from the crowd. And her song (“Other Fiends”) is an unforgettable tune.
Fun fact: Steg was planned to originally appear in SEASON 1 OF THE SHOW
Also I’m so happy you four actually enjoyed this movie, it is very decisive in the fanbase, not as much as future, but still.
I love how Rose Quartz started the series a perfect saint and ended up being the most flawed characters. She was worshiped by Pearl and idolized by Garnet as told and defended the legacy of Rose Quartz to the off-colors on Lars' ship and even came apart when she found out Rose was Pink Diamond. For Amethyst, she was all but a mother. And slowly that prefect image was shattered. It isn't Rose Quartz story anymore, its Stevens, and how he had to live with his mothers legacy. For Pink, it is shown how she was viewed and treated by the other Diamonds. With White, she was talking at Steven and not talking to Steven. When White was done, Steven was just sent to Pinks room. When he was talking to Yellow about it, she remarked 'two and a half words, thats a record'. She wasn't listened too. When Stevonnie appeared at the ball, Yellow physically grabbed and shut her in a room. When he was talking to Blue about it, he asked 'how many times did you make her cry'. Was Pink physically abused .... maybe. Was she mentally abused and neglected ... yes. Pearl explained how Pink wanted to stop the colony on Earth, but Blue and Yellow would not listen. No one listened to her. She was never allowed to have a voice. She couldn't really start her life over again on Earth as Pink Diamond. She escaped into Rose. As human adults, we can choose to block family members we no long wish to have contact with. We can move 1000 miles away. We can surround ourselves with people who love us, listen and support us. We can get away, but Pink couldn't. The only way she could stop it was if Pink was no longer around. Rose bubbled Bismuth for wanting to shatter a Diamond. She abandoned Spinel in the garden. She lied to her closest friends about who she was ( except for Pearl ). Steven Universe is an outstanding show (IMO) due to all the social aspects they covered. For those dealing with unequated love, jealousy, attraction, immaturity, neglect or any of the topics the show covered, there is a lesson for each. Well done Rebecca.
If you guys were confused how Spinel was able to get access to weapons it’s bc since she was pink diamonds best friend she had access to her things. Her form had changed bc she self poofed due to all the sadness she felt after finding out pink left her forever and lied to her.
Imagine waiting for 6,000 years and then making a fool out of the Crystal Gems. Sorry Amethyst, but, “I’m rusty.” is hardly an excuse at that point.
Amethyst is one of the newer gems if you think about it, well before lapis and peri
@@LXW-Artslapis is older than amethyst, she was there during the war
It definitely is an valid excuse I don't know what you even mean by that, no matter how long you do something you're not going to be very good if you don't keep up the practice, and they didn't need to fight for a couple of years after the Wars ended.
Amethyst was never much of a fighter, she's deffinitely less trained than the others.
@seesawseesaw She wasn't a crystal gem yet.
FUN FACT! Spinel's song Other Friends was completed on the first recording! Sarah is amazing!
Eric was definitely on the money with Spinel being a metaphor for old abandoned childhood toys.
21:18 funny you say that because Spinel was based on an old toy Rebecca Sugar found abandoned in her backyard.
29:17 And this line hits even harder because Rebecca did accidentally left the toy behind there when she was called into the house by her mom, had forgotten about it, vines did wrap around it until it was found by her only recently years later.
@@Otisboy121It couldn't have been that recent since the song she wrote about it appeared in AT in 2015
@@nickcys5395 i never said when she found it.
Fun Fact: Sarah Stiles, the voice of Spinel, has just been confirmed to have a voice role for Hazbin Hotel!
ew...
She's Mimzy :)
I've only seen the show in clips here and there and I never even recognized her voice help
I have a theory that the reason Pink Diamond's gem was upside in comparison to White's, is that she had a meltdown so strong and devastating like Spinel's, her gem turned upside down.
Pink Diamond's gem didn't turn upside down, it went vertical so only the flat side was showing.
@@jaegerthedane3245 I know, she did that on purpose to hide as Rose Quartz. I was talking about how her gem placement before that, was an upside down Diamond (This -> 💎 but upside down)
@@jaegerthedane3245 Also, this is unrelated but I love your profile picture it's very neat
I thought she was just made like that because she’s seen as the weak and small one out of the four and she rules under them
"Leaving your old toys behind" Kind of funny he says that cause that was one of Rebecca's old memorys/source for this, with a bunny doll she lost until one year later just found out and it got faded in one side. Also knowing Spinnels past and how sad it is it's a bit messed up CN wanted Sugar to end her.
-Spinel is voiced by Sarah Stiles who plays Kate & Lucy (Avenue Q), Bonnie (Billions), Jillian (Transformers Rise of the Beasts), Beth (The Crew), Dana (Superior Donuts), & many more. Spinel’s design is based on 1900s rubber hose animated characters but there are a few other references that she makes like she is like a court jester so she is like Harley Quinn, originally her head was going to be heart shaped which speaking of notice her heart shaped pig tails are like Mickey Mouse’s ears which no matter which way she turns her ear they remain the same, when fighting she stretches like Luffy from One Piece (ex using Gum-Gum Giant Pistol & there were 2 other references to the series like there was a guy dressed like Doflamingo & Steven uses barriers on his fist like Bartolomeo), her scythe attacks are similar to Maka from Soul Eater, & when she walks it squeaks like SpongeBob’s does
- Steven & Greg’s fusion is called Steg (which totally sounds like a rock star name) is voiced by Ted Leo a singer & musician who is the lead guitarist of the band called Ted Leo & the Pharmacists (great songs) & he was originally going to be called Mr. Multiverse & had a spiky Mohawk, but even more interesting is that his duet with Opel was inspired by the fact that her voice actor Aimee Mann & Ted Leo are both in a band called The Both
Spinel's backstory is just so sad and because of this, this was the point where it started to divide the su fandom. Some people still love pink but some were starting to hate pink so much because of everything she did in the past. But what some people keep forgetting is that we have been seeing pink/rose's development in reverse, yes pink freaking sucked in the past, she was so immature, stupid and horrible. But after meeting greg and starting to know him, in the episode "we need to talk", that was the point where she finally started to understand greg and his feelings. She hasn't treated everyone else's feelings seriously and greg was the one who changed her for the better.
Also what i love about spinel and steven's final fight, he didn't psychically tried to hurt her, instead he was countering her attacks with defense, and because of that this actually helped spinel to let everything out, which lead her to finally talk to steven as she cried. I'm glad she didn't got shattered, she really deserves better 😊
I don’t understand how ppl can still blame pink and hate her actively even after she stop doing what she did started to do better this is exactly like how ppl treated princess bubble gum in adventure time they act like character never get better and release their past and mistakes
@@elysia6524 exactly! Yes it upsets me for what pink did, but she eventually changed for the better thanks to Greg. She became better during her final years on earth. People just need to understand that her development was shown reverse. Is pink perfect? No. But she was a pretty well written black and white character
Real talk, I could relate to Spinel’s post-rage clarity near the end of the movie. I used to feel like that a lot as a teenager.
I think CN backpedaled so fast after canceling SU because viewership for the show went crazy during the final season. Especially for the Wanted (trial), Stranded (jungle moon), and Change Your Mind events. They realized canceling their biggest moneymaker probably wasn't a good idea.
Also, Steven's VA has an album called A Picture Perfect Hollywood Heartbreak, which showcases a lot more of his singing. It's really good and I think Connie's VA is also on one of the songs.
(At 33:30) I don't think that's the issue. The issue is, she's been screwed by Pink Diamond, she's emotionally unstable .And it doesn't really help that Steven was hesitant to put up with her, it almost looked like he's taking her for granted, Even if that's not intentional.
Now that i think of it imagine Spinel during the war, given how she beat the crystal gems even with little to no combat experience (i assume) she would’ve been a force to be reckoned with
One of the interesting things about Steven's mom is that despite becoming a better person over time, we're gmfed all of her character development in reverse. So she starts great and becomes more unlikable as we delve further into her backstory.
Spoiler for future
I wouldn't say Pink's character arc was entirely positive or negative. I feel like it all comes back to the incident with Volleyball. At first Pink was a little bratty, but also very open with her emotions. I'm also guessing she was insecure about being so much smaller than the other gems. Probably assumed she was weaker too. But then she gets really angry because the other Diamonds don't take her seriously and she accidentally hurts her pearl so badly that a scar remains even after the gem is healed. Now she knows she's strong but instead of being proud she's terrified of that power. After that Pink starts suppressing her emotions, but that makes dealing with Spinel a lot harder. I think she abandoned Spinel out of fear that what happened to Volleyball would reoccur.
A lot of that is based on assumptions but that's my impression of her general character progression before visiting earth. She became a better person on earth but she never lost that avoidant nature.
@@ap7635she’s not smaller than gems she’s smaller than the diamonds and she did think she was the weakest one also I think she left spinel because she finally got to rule over something which was earth and to mature spinel was the only thing keeping her from maturing and leaving to earth, also the warp broke so it probably had gotten broken after the pink decided to stay on earth and if they found out pink didn’t have a need for spinel I think they would just kill her
Also this movie and Future are where the Tenchi Muyo inspiration for the show really shows itself. Steven looking like husky tenchi from this point on
Yerp I’m so ready for the Steven universe future reactions
Such a good movie! Spinel is my top 5 characters in SU, and her cold speech atop the injecter gives me chills, she was a truly hurt character who lashed out at the one person she recognized
Pink really just saw herself as normal, in comparison to the other diamonds and in the lives of all the other gems around her. She was so Human in a weird way and she left people and didn't understand that in their eyes she was everything.
This was a good way of introducing the new things like Little Homeworld and his new relationship with the diamonds, and closing out this book of everything is Pink's fault because now its basically just new beginnings for Steven.
True but I do think pink saw herself lower than the gems and as we know pink did whatever she wanted so I’d sue wanted to be human she will most likely not let anything stop her which happened
Greg: Hey! It's not like a six pack is gonna save you from that height!
Steg: Gains an 8 pack and the power to fly...
Makes sense to me
(At 38:00) And now she's having a breakdown. I can't even blame Spinal.
One of the awesome things about the fusion scene is that the VAs of Steg and Opal are a husband and wife duo.
SUCH a good movie and spinel is an incredible character
4:17 Zach Callison, voice actor of Steven, at the beginning of the show (2013), he was a 15-16 y/o actor. (Born October 23, 1997) by the time the movie came out (2019) he was about 22.
So we finally get to the main event: Steven Universe vs Traumatized Gem Luffy (aka Spinel)
Spinel is very relatable to people who have been in toxic relationships. Drift Away always tears me up.
"It's almost like leaving your old toys behind." Is a very accurate since it's once of the inspirations Rebecca Sugar had when making Spinel. Theres a yt video about it!
It's interesting that both Spinel's backstory and the Adventure Time song Everything Stays were inspired by the same story from Rebecca's childhood.
Steven: Hey Spinel. Where did you get all these dangerous weapons anyway?
Spinel: The Garden's storeroom
Steven: Why would those things be in there?
Spinel: Homeworld isn't really big on plants so when Pink asked for gardening supplies the request went to the weapons division. They just remodeled a bunch of old weapons to make them shaped like gardening equipment.
Steven: So the Rejuvenator was just meant to be used as a regular scythe. Wouldn't it just phase through the plants without cutting them?
Spinel: Yes Steven. Yes it would.
Steven: What about the injector?
Spinel: We had an infestation of these weird rainbow caterpillar things. Pink asked for some kind of pesticide and they made her that injector. I know I'm one to talk but I think those guys got a little overenthusiastic because it was the first time Pink asked them for anything approaching an actual weapon. I guess to them "pest" and "organic life" were synonyms. Anyway Pink decided the bugs were cute and went to show them off to the other diamonds. We just left the injector in the storeroom.
Yeah, the series is very well aware that Pink Diamond wasn't a perfect person and that she left a lot of mess behind her. Thing is, Pink Diamond changed and became Rose Quartz, a good person overall when she passed. She just never thought of healing Pearl or Spinnel before disapearing. I really like Spinnel story because it shows that, even if you identify the problem and try to solve it, old habits come back quicker than you think. Not everything will be solve as soon as you sick therapy, it needs time, maybe even all your life to learn how to live with your trauma. And that something Future will explore in depht, because yeah, when you think about Steven story in the original stories, there are a lot of things that were never truly adressed or solved.
i love that they included the cat (Name: Steven Jr.) from that one episode with Garnet
The wait for the movie was driving me insane. My brother and I used to watch SU together as the show was airing over the years. I was literally keeping an eye on the TV so we could be there the very second the movie started. Those were the days.
fun fact: the woman who voices peridot actually choreographed steven and amethyst's tap dancing
"Steven wins, he gets rid of all of them" You guys are savages xD
Had to laugh so hard at that
Such a shame they didn't show my favorite Spinel line, "Who am I? Who am I? What are you even saying? I'm the loser of the game you, didn't know you were playing!"
Spinel is my absolute favorite antagonist in steven universe. Her story, heart breaking. Her pain, relatable for people who have been abandoned.
Steven and Greg fused into a damn JoJo’s character
fun fact, Opal is voiced by singer-songwriter Aimee Mann, and Steg is voiced by Ted Leo who has his own indie rock band, but they have a side band together called "The Both" so it's not the first time Opal's voice and Steg's voice have sung together.
Steg: When you're your mother, your father, and your son all at once.
I'll be honest: when I 1st saw the movie I didn't get why we needed it, but now I can safely say that it does a great job of setting up Future thematically, which in itself is an incredibly important piece of Steven's story. As for Pink, I feel like Spinel's story is more of a tragic accident then anything else. Sure, abandoning Spinel and lying to her abt that was a terrible thing that Pink definitely did. But that's what the other diamonds did to other gems, including Pink. They were terrible people and Pink copied their behaviour because she wanted to be like them. But she really changed when she arrived on Earth. I feel like Pink who was Steven's mom, the 1 who we knew as Rose Quartz would never do this. Only she couldn't go back for Spinel after she started rebellion, because let's be honest: it would blow her cover in front of the other diamonds. And so Spinel became just another of Pink's past mistakes that would become a burden on her and on Steven. I do like how u guys evaluate the situation. It seems like u might be 1 of the few people in the fandom able to sympathise with both Pink and Spinel, like I am.
I remember the hype when seeing this movie trailer and just rewatching this movie so many times and deeply listening to the audio just a 10/10 Movie
I heard a theory that Steg is based on how Steven views his dad-an awesome guitar rock star
Wasn't expecting this reaction so soon! Super fun, great movie. and some of the best songs of the entire series in here!! Also since yall mentioned Steven's va sounding really good, Zach Callison actually makes music, he's got stuff on spotify. He did an album/ep and Connie's va made an appearance on it.
One thing I just noticed is Yellow laughs about how 6000 years is nothing but they're going crazy after not seeing Steven for weeks.
Spinel: After everything I did you couldn't possibly want me around now
Lapis: Don't be so hard on yourself. You were alone for a long time and were understandably upset
Spinel: Steven tried to help me but all I did was lash out at him
Lapis: You weren't that bad
Spinel: I beat up his friends
Lapis: You're a noncombatant gem who hadn't moved for thousands of years. If they lost to you then they needed the workout anyway
Spinel: I destroyed his dad's arm
Lapis: That was an accident. And Steven healed it so who cares?
Spinel: I almost wiped out all life on the planet.
Lapis: Well how was I supposed to know the ocean was that important!!!
Spinel: What?
You'd think that blue and yellow would've visited the garden but at the same time I guess it could've been painful for them to go so they didn't idk
There's a song in Adventure Time that was many fans believe can also describe Spinel's backstory.
I won't say which one but you'll know when you hear it.
Not just fans believing, but confirmed to have been inspired by the same thing by Rebecca Sugar.
I love the fact that there was a theory about Onion being a final boss gem or somehow related to White diamond back then
Fun fact about Steg
His voice actor and the voice actress for Opal are actually married and play in the same band
I give it two minutes before one of them is all "I could fix her!"
Bit rich for White Diamond to declare Earth as broken when Homeworld itself is broken.
And the ending where it looks like Vegas is actually inspired from the Takarazuka Revue, an all female theater troupe in Japan. They end their shows that way with the main characters wearing bombastic feathers while singing the final song/chorus.
I love how much Spinel and the Diamonds work for each other as replacements for Pink in the end, pff
Spinel is pretty much exactly how the Diamonds viewed Pink: small, cute, funny and just sooo silly, just a little goofball
and the Diamonds are pretty much what Spinel saw in Pink: someone big and regal and beautiful whom she loves to make smile and to entertain
While it definitely absolutely was super messed up of Pink to just leave Spinel behind like that, I do also see her side of the story:
Spinel, at the time, was pretty much just a toy the other Diamonds gave her to try and appease her (similar to Blue giving her the Human Zoo when Pink said she wanted to preserve life on Earth), giving her a playmate to keep her busy while the other Diamonds were working on their own colonies so she would stop bugging them about getting her own (like we see in the dream/memory on the Jungle Moon), but while Pink did enjoy Spinel's antics, you can clearly see in her face that playing with her didn't really make Pink happy, she wanted to be like the other Diamonds, be a real part of what they are (going off of the parallel that Steven was feeling when he was standing in for Pink Diamond and feeling just like when he was struggling to be taken seriously as part of the Crystal Gems back in season 1). When the Diamonds finally gave in and gave Pink her first colony we don't know if the other Diamonds would've approved of her bringing Spinel along or not in the first place, but thinking back to the parallel to Steven, her leaving Spinel behind would've been more akin to Steven putting his toys away and trying to be more serious and such once he was finally allowed to come along on missions as a Crystal Gem.
Pink Diamond did a lot of growing up while she was down on Earth and she could've probably remembered Spinel and realized "Hey, letting her wait for me back in the garden all this time is pretty messed up, I should get her and let her live on Earth with us", but there were bunch of distracting factors or problems that would've prevented her from getting Spinel:
1. she started a war which took all of her attention, she probably didn't even have a thought to spare on Spinel during this time
2. once the war was over they destroyed all warp pads leaving earth so there was no quick and easy way to get to the garden, we don't know if they even had any functioning spaceships left after the war (besides the Legs I guess)
3. Pink Diamond was supposedly shattered, even if she did manage to get to the garden (without drawing attention) she would've had to reveal herself to Spinel which could've risked the secret getting out (remember that she even ordered Pearl not to speak of it so that the only one who could've possibly let the secret slip was Rose herself, she would not have risked Spinel blurting it out, getting seen going to the garden in the first place or anyone from Homeworld checking on Earth post-war or even her own leftover Crystal Gems (mainly Garnet and Amethyst I guess) questioning why and how Spinel got there, especially if Spinel claims to be either Pink Diamond's and/or Rose's best friend)
And even all that is only IF Rose didn't just completely forget about Spinel after the whole Earth, Crystal Gems, Intergalactic War, Fake-Shattering, everyone getting corrupted, starting a new life on Earth, etc stuff
Spoiler for future
Personally I feel like it all comes back to the incident with Volleyball. At first Pink was a little bratty, but also very open with her emotions. I'm also guessing she was insecure about being so much smaller than the other Diamonds. Probably assumed she was weaker too. But then she gets really angry because the other Diamonds don't take her seriously and she accidentally hurts her pearl so badly that a scar remains even after the gem is healed. Now she knows she's strong but instead of being proud she's terrified of that power. After that Pink starts suppressing her emotions, but that makes dealing with Spinel a lot harder. I think she abandoned Spinel out of fear that what happened to Volleyball would reoccur.
A lot of that is based on assumptions but that's my impression of her general character progression before visiting earth. She became a better person on earth but she never lost that avoidant nature.
There's a video somewhere that just a duel screen of every epsiode of Steven Universe on one screen, and Spinel in the garden on the other. Its absolutely heartbreaking to watch because you're watching the Crystal Gems grow and flourish together, but right next to them, Spinel remains stagnant.
I think this solidified something that reactors pick up from this movie:
when pink says "let's play a game", every single reactor I've watched has said some variation of "oh boy", like they pick up on what happened from one fuckjng line.
I just find that really funny.
I am obsessed with how every single reactor I've seen so far has gone "WE HAVE TO KILL GREG" when Steven and Amethyst put together that Rose disappeared and that was Pearl's final piece. It's so funny ahahahah XD
I think you underestimate how hard it is to get over trust issues
Fr, as someone with trust issues, it’s definitely not the easiest thing to do and it’s frustrating that they don’t seem to get that.
Independent Together is my personal favorite SU song. It's so good.
Steg Multiverse is by FAR the best fusion.
Ah I loved the movie sm! To have a full musical it was amazing! So happy you guys reacted…now ready for Future!
the way i watched all of your reactions back in summer and they’re just now on youtube 😭
the dances at 19:39 were actually choreographed by Shelby Rabara, peridots voiceactor. who also did the tapdancing in the Mr Greg episode.
Fun fact the VAs for Steg and Opal do duets all the time IRL ❤
Just saying at the end it wasn't greg driving it was actually Pearl
"You think there are people jumping into this?" Yeah I saw this movie before the show. I liked it so much that I went back to watch the show.
There was no way i could watch this on youtube with the amount of songs XD. Congrats on gaining a new subscriber at least for a month ✌
29:20 it’s very funny y’all say that! Rebecca Sugar said in an interview her inspiration for Spinel came from finding an old doll of hers in the backyard. It was half shielded from the sun by a box and so half of it was worn and sun damaged while the other half was pristine and like when she first played with it. It made her realize how important and formative toys and things like that are to our life, and how sometimes people treat people that way…expecting them to wait on pause on a shelf until you need them. Was such a cool interview, and really hit me in the feels over that character!
I don't recall if this is the intent of the authors, but Spinel always struck me as a very well written portrayal of Borderline Personality Disorder. The deep, craving need to be loved by someone. The rapid jumping to assuming everyone else hates you. Hating yourself. The violent lashing out, trying to push people away as a form of self-punishment.
As someone who dealt with Borderline through much of my late teens and my twenties (I'm mostly recovered from it now at 28), Spinel was just... so perfect. She was the first character I saw in media who really felt like she represented the struggles I was going through. Spinel helped me see that I could be better, it would just take work.
This line in particular from one of the last songs really struck me and motivated me to try to be better:
"You can make it better starting with tonight" - Steven Quartz "Cutie Pie" DeMayo Diamond Universe (YES THIS IS HIS FULL NAME)
Yeah, it's a simple and obvious thing, but... sometimes you just need to be reminded of that. You can do better. Just start working on it.
Don't know if you noticed but the chest was open.
Man, i wjsh to knew what was in that chest
@@testeteste811probably the regular show dvd series
The music in this slayed! I ended up buying it on Apple TV so I could watch it. When I was abroad
Back in college.
Spinel design Is like a mix of Harley Quinn and jenny from my life as teenage robot
my favorite detail is that Steven still had the rejuvenator in his pocket just because he wasn't able to put it in Lion's mane earlier
43:17 Zach did a good job singing this part here
Spinel made the movie and future meta by pretty much calling out how they randomly burst into song, this is something you'll see in future too
Also, I love that the Diamonds are a...What would it be called? A Trippet? Like a quartet but with only 3?
This movie *was* actually my first true SU experience when it first came out, and it’s what got me into the show.
I love Spinel ❤️, her character design, her villain song is absolutely amazing (Especially if you watch that scene a second time), she has a really depressing backstory poor girl 💔, her voice actor did a phenomenal job portraying all of her emotions (really showing that she went through something, what pink did really hurt her) also singing as well, her theme is like mostly creepy reverse sounds with little glitches which fit her character and story really well, and her animation was so cool and fluid (Absolutely amazing). I also love how her eyes showed how insane she became afterwards ❤️.
The whole thing about rose is that i think she kinda noticed the damage she did?
That's why at the end she decided to give her life to steven,she hated herself,she hated the damage she caused to everyone,she thought so very little of herself that to her she never actually changed from the childish diamond she was back at home world,never crossed her head that she was probably the first gem monarch that had empathy and actually cared about other gems feelings,bc her feelings we're never cared before so she knew how bad it felt,she could not go back to what she was before so she decided to just bury that part of her but it still lingered on her mind.
Zack released few solo albums, the stuff he did rocks! So yeah, he totally nailed the songs =P
I think the movie was released during the pandemic, so to be fair, I don't really know if it did well or what, I feel like it was unlucky timing.
And cartoon network's initial offer was just the movie, then rebecca said "It makes no sense to have a movie if there's not a show to promote it", so she got both the movie and the future show.