WHY buy the Atomos Ninja V for the Sony a7iii??
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- The Atomos Ninja V monitor/recorder might not increase the image quality coming out of the Sony a7iii, but it does open up a handful of other awesome features that you can only get with it!
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2:04 - Vlog to get the Ninja V and Accessories
2:58 - Unboxing and Setup
5:31 - Reasons I got the Atomos Ninja V
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*What do you think of the Atomos Ninja V would you buy it or not? And why?*
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Timestamps for impatient people:
0:00 - Video Starts: Backstory
2:04 - Vlog to get the Ninja V and Accessories
2:58 - Unboxing and Setup
5:31 - Reasons I got the Atomos Ninja V
We got one specifically for 4:2:2!
@bs media - do you find it’s made a big difference for you?
@@dunnadidit For color grading, tremendously! Definitely found there wasn't as much banding. Also, the pro-res files are amazing!
Love being able to record the camera’s screen with the Ninja V, great for tutorials and vids. Never though to use the camera-computer function, not sure if it works the same for Canon as your Sony
I have it. I like it a lot. I use it on camera or I have it mounted to my DJI Ronin-S (I don't use it in that config very often)
I also have it mounted in a small rig monitor cage....
I was LITERALLY searching for this yesterday!! Thank you, what an incredible amount of value.
That’s great to hear! Cheers!
You’ve been killing more and more over the last while that I’ve been watching. Super cool to see the progress and growth. Nice work man!
Thanks a ton!
I have had my Ninja V since it came out and it's an amazing piece of kit that I did not need. It is great to be able to use multiple cameras with the same SSD which makes workflow easier as you pointed out. It doers come in handy on my X-T3 if I need a front facing screen. It's expensive but will be worth it for some. Thanks for braving the cold to make this video!
That’s awesome!!! I’d say it’s well worth the price tag so far!
has literally been in and out my cart for the past month.
Lol well it’s on sale right?
@@dunnadidit I need it to stay on sale till Amazon associates send out their gift cards for earnings. 1 week!
Same here
Same😂
It’s so nice being able to edit directly from that hard drive then only save the finished video. The prores codec is such a blessing and the SSD’s are dirt cheap!
Oh man, you nailed it.
what about the ssd caddy? any item link?
Do you just slide off the atomos caddy (with the ssd in it) and plug it in to your computer using a SATA to USB cable and edit directly off that?
Awesome video. Excellent info on the output color and compression files.
I watch these for beer review and explanations, but when the details go over my head, I stay for the beats.
Seriously though coffee shop, low - key, chill music is amazing! ☕️ 🥰
Haha great to know!! Thanks for the kind words!
Editing/pacing on this video is damn good bro!
Thanks brother! I really appreciate that.
I did the same, I put my a7iii in a small rig with the handle on top. Then the ninja on top of it. I found it adds enough weight that footage handheld comes out a little more stable. Most of all though just being able to shoot in 4k forever without worrying about it stopping recording is nice. Also, I think the screen on the ninja is much better when using manual lenses + focus peaking. Plus, just having a screen anyways is really helpful and it isn't that much more weight to be honest.
You are 100% correct! It makes for a better experience in a handful of ways. I’m stoked to do some handheld stuff with it too.
I am excited I just received my
Atomos Ninja V today can’t wait to test it out
Just bought one the other week! Absolutely love it! My big thing was for beating out that dang record limit! We do tons of interviews! So good!
Nice! Yeah that’s huge!! I just have to make sure I keep a big enough battery on it lol.
@@dunnadidit I think at this point I have a dedicated backpack for batteries when we do client work lol
Well, that's something I didn't know I even wanted. Thanks Dunna!
Haha my pleasure!
Went through a similar "agonizing" time of debating whether or not to buy the Ninja V to go on my a6400. Then, Atomos dropped the price of the Ninja V by some $350 for a month or so. Managed to find the ONE left in stock in Vancouver and raced with money in hand. My trip from discovery to acquisition was about 2 1/2 years and a few crappy used monitors from FB Marketplace. Couldn't be happier that I now have this little beast of a screen.
Hi and thanks for all your videos! I'm just wondering if you can record on the camera AND Ninja at the same time? (Basically to have a back up if you have a single card slot camera) Also how long does a battery last on it? Thanks!
You can! But it may cause some limitations depending on which camera you have.
@@dunnadidit Awesome, thanks for the reply!
My pleasure!
Hello from the future. I tried recording simultaneously internally on my A7riii and externally on my Ninja V. Worked fine, but the internal record still times out at 29 minutes, and when it stops recording, it stops the Nina V at the same time.
That looks amazing, man. Would love to get my hands on that ninja! One day Thanks man. Great job as always 👊
Yeah it’s pretty cool! Thanks so much dude!
Dunna did it. The intro was literally me this morning. 10:41 in and I've placed the order.
Off topic, but I bought one of those desks after your video and it is 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. Thanks! I had been looking for a long time!
That’s so awesome! I’m glad you’re loving it!
Checking-in from May 2022.. The Atomos Ninja V is now at $399, and an A7III is around $1200 used.. Got 2x Atomos Ninja V and A7III. 2.5" SSD has also gotten cheaper.. Couldn't be happier..
Great inputs and video!
The fact that it's also a recorder and has whole bunch of features, makes it very temping for me also! 😁
Yeah if it was just a monitor it would be a very expensive monitor lol
Yo!! So happy I found this channel. You’re such a good TH-camr 🙌🙌
Thank you so much Josh!
Seriously mate, that was such an informative video as I have been on the fence about the ninja 5 for so long 😂😂
I'm so glad to hear it was helpful!
thank you for providing insights on the atomos ninja v. bought for a year already and have not maximize on the usage.
Thanks for the review! This helped a lot
youtube .. Why this not on my recommendation ? Damn I was looking for this .. Thanks for review Dunna
Yeah what the heck TH-cam! Haha! Thanks for watching!
Will file this away for future reference. Nice rundown! Stay warm!
Nice! Thanks!
Enjoy the new gear dude! If it makes life a bit easier, then it's all good! The Atomos stuff is really great, and it's a huge help to nail manual focus, making sure stuff isn't blown out etc.etc.etc. I couldn't live without mine now to be honest. Maybe I'm going slightly blind, but the bigger screen is an absolute joy!
I’ve shot one video on it now and I already couldn’t live without it haha!
@@dunnadidit Ha!! Epic! The ProRes recording is worth the price alone!!
Excellent video. Thanks for doing this.
Thank you for the support via Twitter! You are awesome!
My pleasure Eddie! Cheers!
Dunna is the man! Awesome videos bro
Such a good review! Keep it up 👍🏼
THIS IS THE LAST TIME!
🤓🤣👍 Great video, dude. Funny too.
Haha thanks for the help on the adapter cable dude!
I got the Shugun 7, worth it for the face detect alone, but the image anlaysis features, XLR in, and codecs were a huge change in my workflow for the better that I didn't expect. Also adds a lot of needed video features that the Sony A9 is missing and allows me to shoot better matchable video along side my A7RIII.
Nice!
I've been using the Ninja V with my Canon 5D Mk IV for about a month now. Mainly I needed to get past the 30 minute recording limit (concert and dance performance shooting), but the Ninja's prores files are noticeably better than the files produced by the 5D, especially in low light/high ISO situations - less noise, no blown out highlights. It is almost like having an entirely new camera. I consider it money well spent.
That’s awesome!!
Lovely video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Now I really want this even though I use the SmallHD. But that external recording with no limit and editing from external drive could way improve my workflow! Dang it Dunna!
Dang it Matt!
If I did a video and why I picked up a Ninja V, it would be very brief. I would basically say “the reason I picked up a Ninja V is because my wife let me”
Lol 😂
The unboxing was hilarious! Thanks for that.
Haha thanks!
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Hey! Thank you so much! It’s all just me, shot, “performed” and edited 😁 I’m glad you liked it!
I am in the same boat as you were. I have had it in my shopping cart for a good 7 months even prior to me getting my camera (XT-3). As you state it's not needed, but not having to use my camlink to show my screen would be most beneficial. Thanks for the video, I may be pulling the trigger on it or an action camera soon.
Yeah the screen recording, no time limit, and prores would be awesome for you!
Great vid, Dunna as always. I’ve had my NinjaV almost a year now, I chose it over the less expensive ones because of loosing the face tracking with other monitors. Thanks GeraldUndone.
That was definitely a huge factor for me too!
Hey i finally subscribe!! Love you stuff man.
Thanks!!
Love your videos. And I love your cat wanting to join the video!
I noticed a solid jump in how much I can push the Luma values in post using the ATOMOS Ninja Inferno with the A6300 which shoots the same codec and data rate as the A7iii I believe. You’re gonna love it dude! Have fun!
That’s great to know! Like you said, I should see similar advantages with the a7iii, a6600 and a6400 then too! Cheers!
Ah! Thank you! I couldn't get a straight answer regarding time limit from other videos.
My pleasure!
GREAT VIDEO THANKS FOR THE GREAT CONTENT! WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED?
Seems worth it for face tracking in 4k alone. I hate that I have to unplug my current monitor to enable facetracking! Great video, more tempted to pick one up now!
That was definitely the #1 reason at first for me.
Solid video, great info, 10/10 comedy 👍🏾
Thanks man , really helped ❤️
That’s great to hear! Thanks for watching!
Good Video. I deliberated on buying one for about 2 weeks for my Sony FS5. Pro Res 4K/60p @4:2:2 10bit makes the Ninja V well worth the money.
Nice!!
Thanks for the great video, now i have to buy yet another accessory xD
Haha you’re welcome and I’m sorry
Great review!!!! I am thinking about getting the Atomos Ninja V after spending another day running back and forth from the camera A7iii to toggle the power off and on, see if I was in the frame and centered, etc. Are you still using the Atomos Ninja V? Has it worked well? PS. My cat visits me when I am shooting (or writing, or ...)
Aww man now I have to buy one now hahaha! Been debating it for a long time now. Thanks man! ahhhhhhh! Great video as always!
Haha I'm glad my video helped! Feel free to use those links in the description 😉
Gerald Undone is our Master Splinter 😂 I also messaged him before I bought😎 great video bro! The small improvements to the a7iii and the future proof is worth the price tag for Sony shooters
Haha 😂 he’s definitely good if you need some nerdy advice!
Nice vid! thx for tips :)
Hey Dunna Did It. Have you been able to test the external recording much on this camera since January? I'm curious about the benefits if there are any at all. I saw Gerald Undone's video on this exact topic and I wasn't too convinced. He used 4:2:2 as a way to examine banding but it is the bit depth that affects banding more than anything. 422 comes in most handy with chroma keying. Also, I'm curious to see examples like the one you mentioned here, if it improves color data within S-Log2 or 3 footage. And I'm VEEERY curious about what it does for skin tones. One of my least favorite things about grading S-Log in the a7III is how color data in skin tones falls apart when I use a LUT, even one designed for this gamma, and you get weird blotchy artifacts that either don't match the rest of the skin at all or are distinctly less saturated, creating a block of b&w in the middle of someone's cheek. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, but wish I had a more technical description of it. If recording externally improves this, then buying the Ninja V would make some sense to me. Otherwise I see no benefit other than perhaps shooting green screen content, and using the monitor features, but then Atomos also sells external, camera-mounted monitors for less money. For work, I shoot on a GH5 and for interviews, where skin tones matter most, I shoot in 10bit 422. It does improve things, but I do sometimes find myself correcting similar blotchy artifacts, just not as much as on the a7III. Thanks, man!
I bought it a bout a year ago and I absolutely love it! I use it on the EOS R which outputs 10 bit and it’s amazing
I have a bit of 10 bit envy...lol
It is a game changer... I’m sure Sony will add it on the a7siii whenever that’s out 🤣
Dunna Did It Check your footage that you record at 422HQ - Resolve says the footage coming out of the a7iii is 10-bit and it certainly feels like it when grading
Really? I have graded a bit and it does feel like there's a bit more to it, but I figured that was the 4:2:2. I wonder if the file from the ninja v is 10 bit but the sony is only outputing 8 bit into it. Like upscaling 1080 to 4k... its still just 1080.
Just double checked, the a7iii definitely only outputs 8bit
Great explanation Dunna! I had the Ninja for a while, but it didn't really fit in my workflow so I sold it and got a drone instead. I felt that the drone would add more to the variety I could capture. The Ninja is amazing though! I had fun with it and I would be interested to see how you incorporate it into your workflow. I know about the ProRes saving time from having to convert it when you start the edit, but do you edit off the Ninja SSD? Transfer all the footage then start the edit? Like I said, I would be interested in a workflow video, and I bet there might be more than a few subscribers that find it interesting too. Cheers!
Thanks for letting me know Klint. Once I get a few more vids under my belt with it I’ll definitely keep this in mind!
Nice informative video, for me there are 3 things which are dealbreaker 1st face tracking AF 2nd Unlimited record time 3rd Luts, I don’t talk about things like free spinning tilting monitor A7III lacks
Those are pretty solid features! It definitely helps for the fact that the A7iii lacks a flip screen too!
I know this video is old but def helped me, loved the intro because that’s exactly what I was doing. And now I should be receiving it any day now.
Do you recommend only recording on the monitor when using it? I will be pairing it with the A7sIII
I do about half and half (just using as a monitor vs recording) the prores files are so nice to work with but they are huge. If I know I’m going to be doing a long take, I’ll usually just go to the sd card. But if I need LOTS of space, I have a 1tb hard drive for the ninja so I can shoot for days if I need to. It’s nice and flexible!
Going to pick this recorder up. The unlimited recording limit improvement and less compression is worth the purchase in my eyes.
Totally! And they’ve got it in a crazy sale right now
I’m from Chi©ago, & when I saw that snow in the background I was like “oh no.....it’s coming soon!” Missing summer already! 😔 🙂
Haha 😂 it will be here again soon
I have one, and it's great, however there are two main downsides imo:
1. You can't record 120fps on the atomos, meaning if you like to shoot a combination of slowmo and regular footage, you will find yourself switching back and forth between the external recording and internal recording, which also requires you to unplug the atomos cord from your camera in order to have the sony's screen work.
2. When recording externally, if you have a camera with duel sd cards, you are forfeiting the duel record feature, which for some professional work may be a deal-breaker and a good reason to record internally instead.
Good points!!
So would you recommend the shinobi instead?
@@Lucreative Isn't that just the monitor only version, or does it overcome some of the ninja v downsides? I haven't looked into it.
@@dunnadidit that mean i cant record 4k 60 on a73 with this ???
No you cant
Nice review , thank you
I love my Ninja 5, allows me to shoot 10bit 4:2:2 colour from my now aged C100 Mark ii effectively prolonging it's life. The on screen monitoring options are great as well. Not sure it's 100% necessary for shooting yourself, but fantastic monitor/recording source in the field shooting client work.
Great video dude, I like the smaller profile this one has over mine, it's a bit of a mini beast ;)
When you have the a7iii and no flip screen it becomes super helpful for filming yourself haha.
That’s awesome about the c200 too!
@@dunnadidit Definitely, although I only have the C100 mark ii...so it effective extends the life of that now "vintage" cinema camera lol.
The flip screen aspect is definitely key though.
@@MarkHoltze is that fake 10 bit on your cannon like it is on the sony, or real 10bit with this?
@@MylonasFilms Not sure what you mean "fake 10 bit". The Sony isn't 10 bit, fake or not. It's 8 bit, I'm not sure you can fake the colour depth. Canon C100 mark ii has always been able to do 10 bit external recording. Most older Atomos recorders can enable this.
@@MarkHoltze that's all I needed to know. The Sony Fs5 for example can use a external recorder to record 422 10 bit but it's not actual 10 bit. It's still 8 bit. Didn't the guy even say this in the video above? It's not real 10bit, just 422 out of the recorder.
Nice video, dude! I'm curious to know. What was your A cam for this video? My spidey senses tell me it's the a6600. (drum roll)
Nice one! Would love to see a comparison video between 4:2:2 and 4:2:0
I'll keep it in mind!
It's all about how far you are pushing the colour grading and not having colour banding like in sky's after grading for example. You won't notice it otherwise. Unless you are doing TV broadcast, you do not need 422. But it's lovely to have if you can easily afford it.
11:25 scared the crap out of me lol .That buzzing sound.
Yeah I have no idea what happened there… so weird.
@@dunnadidit no worry. I thought it was my speaker lol. Thanks Dunna~!
Great vids champ
I've got this same setup (including the camlink 4k) & I discovered that i Really like the image i get when i let the Ninja down-res my 4k input to a 1080 output using the passthrough & recording into quicktime on my computer. Maybe even as good as the "infamous" All-I 1080p from Canon?!?
Ooh very interesting!
I used to have a Video Device Pix video recorder which was able to record 60p Prores HQ even though I was outputting 24p from the camera. It kind of made an override of the incoming signal and recorded on to whatever framerate you selected.
How do you fix this? I’ve had this problem for so long.
Nailed it, same reasons as me getting one recently.
Nice!!
I did the same with the GH5 and the Ninja V. So for months I researched and listened how various TH-camr said you only need the Ninja V if you need to record 4k 10bit 60fps and I didn't really care about the 10bit 60fps. In the end I went for it and bought the ninja v and the footage I now have to work with ( which is ProRes LT or HQ) make grading the footage and playback is so worth the cost. The end product that I get from the ninja v gives me a professional and cinematic footage that I was never able to get from the gh5 on it's own. So I get what you are saying . Great video .
Nice! Thanks for sharing! I agree 100% I’ve done one video (for next week) since this one and the whole process was just so much more smooth. Getting exposure is a snap, editing and grading prores is a pleasure. The only downside is added size/weight.
@@dunnadidit yep the weight is a downside and I went and bought the cage as well. Nevertheless I am loving the ninja V, I hacd no regrets.
What do you use for your titles in the video? Everything looks great!
Great Video 🙌🏻
Thanks!!
Thanks man, I have a Sony a7s 1 with a Ninja Assassin to record 4k (old gear) and I just bought a a7 III... I was thinking about selling my Atomos, but after your video, I will stay with him a little longer.
Super vid, Dunna. I aim to buy the Atomos Shogun Inferno 7 to pair with my Nikon Z6 in order to go with ProResRAW. So, a specific purpose for it then. Cheers, brother of vid excellence! 💛
P.S., kitty cameo is touch of class.
Nice! Goin with the big guns! Haha Q-Bert loves to be the center of attention
oh man! got 2 of these and I love them!
Niiicce!
Thanks! :-) for the great info!
good video ..what lut did you put on your video..i love the look
I planned on upgrading my AndyCine A6 to the Atomos Shinobi, but you've talked me into going with the Ninja V when the time comes. Thanks! I think..
Nice!
@@dunnadidit I bought Shinobis for both of my A7III but ended up returning them when I found out that you cannot have neither proxy recording or face detection when using HDMI and recording internally. Just like it's been told in this video. Too bad Ninja V was 2x the price of Shinobi and I wasn't happy with HDMI starting lag (takes like 5 to 10 seconds to see an image in monitor when turning on the camera) so I still don't have a monitor.
Yeah it's definitely a flawed system still (as all are)
Best Unboxing EVER!!!!!
Hey buddy, great video! I'm thinking on getting the Ninja V, but today there's also V+, do you know if it is worth getting the new one?
Thank you
(I also got a Sony A7iii)
Any chance you can share what the mount is you used to hold the monitor in the hotshoe?
Very nice, helpful
11:23 ouch
Yeah not sure what the heck happened there, sorry.
Dunna Did It haha it happens keep up the good content! I would like to see “3 Months With The Átomos Ninja V- Thoughts Review”
Good idea!
@@dunnadidit Dude, would be nice that one!
Great video. Just subscribed! Did you say you can shoot in 4K/60 on the A73?
Unfortunately you can not.
You better do a follow up to this, because now I'm thinking of getting one 🤣
Haha let me tell you I absolutely love it already.
Great video ! and yes I have been strogoling with it just as much 😂😂 using a SmallHD now but the Atomos make full sense for shooting weddings, that would be my reason/excuse 😉 , although I may like a bigger size ...
Funnily enough, I just sold my Ninja V and TH-cam suggested this video… for my experience, great piece of gear, but made all my set up too heavy: extra batteries, extra battery charger, extra hdmi cable, extra monitor mount, extra handle when using my Ronin S, extra settings to worry about… I found it more a disadvantage than an advantage especially when shooting solo on location…
Hey, thanks for you video. I don´t understand: Sony saves mp4 files but with this monitor you can save the much better ProRes formats ?
Big fan from Indonesia. Please do an opinion video about Cajon eos R5
I envy you, we this winter has veen miserable in Finland, off all the places! Coldest we have had this winter was -9 few weeks ago. I need coldness!
Haha well that’s the first time I’ve had that reaction to the cold weather here lol
Is that Ikea lamp in the background in your room? I'm trying to pick between 1 lamp and 3 lamp versions, I'm thinking to use 3 lamp versions with Aputure RGBs.
I believe it is an ikea lamp. But this was a while ago.
Thank you for making this video.
Do you think I can buy this monitor for wedding video shoot? I have Sony a73 and I’m thinking of getting the monitor to improve my view. How about the face tracking on this monitor for moving object like weddings?
Great video bro
Appreciate it
I ordered mine on monday and it shold arrive on friday or monday next week, and I rly can't wait to test it. Did you notice any quiality improvement with shooting 1080p 120fps or is it the same as internaly.
Great video ^^
Very exciting! Unfortunately you can’t use the ninja v for 120fps as far as I’m aware.
Oh I could be wrong here though. I thought that was the case but maybe it’s a limitation of Sony, not the atomos
Love the video! One question though, do all these benefits translate to the a6400? I've been searching for hours and I can not for the life of me get a direct answer to see if stuff like 4K Face Detect AF will still work on this with the a6400 or not. I've found no one talks about the a6400 anymore lol. Just wanna make sure because it would such to drop $600 on it and it doesn't help me a ton more than my $150 Feelworld does.
Just got the Ninja V for my A7III as well. I'm hesitant to mount it directly on the hot shoe mount of Sony since Ninja gets really heavy with NP-F970 batteries. Do you think the hot shoe mount can withstand that force or should I rather get a cage ?
Can’t wait to get one for my X-T3. Waiting for a project that will require it haha
Haha I hear you. And you’ll get both 10 bit and glorious 4k60 (also, I recognize that you get those internally, but still...prores!)
Dunna Did It definitely excited about prores cause I’ll have an external hard drive built in, but also redundancy when recording video is a big deal for me and my work. If I’m doing a 30min + keynote 🙆🏻♂️need to have a back up
HVRIS that’s the camera I shoot with. One thing I learned was when you record in normal picture profiles through the atomos you actually loose some luminance which sucks, you’re not at 0-255 any more. If you shoot in f log you don’t need to worry. It’s a hidden thing I discovered only after getting my atomos on my x-t3 I noticed my blacks looked crushed. The data is there it has to be activated in post, again this is only when recording in standard picture profiles. Hope that helps you man.
Project Brickell thanks for letting me know! 🙏🏼will bare in mind when I buy
HVRIS I was actually contemplating returning mine after I saw that but after shooting in f log last Saturday for the entire day then color grading with the f log to eterna LUT in post I actually like it. F log is excellent and retains a good deal of dynamic range. Plus I kept it because of all the reasons Dunna mentioned here.
Nice vid, was searching for a decent external recorder for A7III when I ran across this vid. Question, you mentioned having face recognition and being able to record external at the same time. In my limited time with the A7III the face recognition is immediately disabled when the cam detects a monitor attached to the HDMI. How are you able to get around this?
I found the way to make it happen - by turning off internal recording, thanks again for the vid.
You got it!!