Video Codecs & Compression Guide (Feat. Atomos Ninja V)

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  • Overview of video codecs & file formats a hybrid shooter will encounter with a practical emphasis on editing & storage. Incl. ProRes on the Atomos Ninja V.
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    Codec Spec Tables:
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    Table of Contents:
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:55 - What Is a Codec?
    1:11 - Codec Intent Explained
    1:46 - Video File Containers (MP4, MOV, etc.)
    2:15 - Naming Conventions: H.264 vs AVC
    2:46 - Sony's XAVC & XAVC-S
    3:18 - What's the Difference between H.264 & XAVC?
    3:34 - The MXF Container (Material Exchange Format)
    3:55 - The "Level" of H.264
    4:24 - The "Profile" of H.264
    4:41 - Brief Explanation of Bit Depth and Chroma Subsampling
    5:05 - H.264 for Acquisition, Post-Processing, & Delivery?
    6:00 - The Shortcomings of H.264
    6:28 - Some Notes on HEVC H.265
    6:56 - All-I vs IPB LongGOP on Editing Performance
    8:20 - The Limitations of All-Intra
    9:17 - Intermediary Codecs: Apple ProRes vs Avid DNxHR
    10:30 - The Purpose of Proxies: Should You Convert H.264 to Edit?
    11:35 - Using ProRes & DNxHR as Acquisition Codecs
    12:02 - Bitrate Comparison (LongGOP vs All-I vs ProRes vs DNxHR)
    14:17 - Why the Black Magic Pocket Cinema 4K Is So Special
    14:36 - Atomos Ninja V: The Best Solution for Hybrid Shooters
    15:40 - SD Cards vs SSD Price/GB (SD Cards Are Too Expensive)
    16:30 - Practical Conclusions: Picking the Right Codec
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  • @TheBrotographer
    @TheBrotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +740

    Bro you are literally one of the reasons people don't need college. Keep up the good work.

    • @billmoree8089
      @billmoree8089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I didn't get any of this kind of strong technical knowledge in college. And certainly not in 18 minutes.

    • @scottpostl237
      @scottpostl237 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      haha so true

    • @waynelast1685
      @waynelast1685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I understand your point, but you should make the clarification.... they don't need college for filmmaking perhaps, but other some formalized instruction is helpful, but not at the tuition prices charged by colleges, and not by marketing gurus trying to make a fast buck. But also college is necessary for other categories where you have reasonable assurance you can find a good job to justify your ROI like engineering, medicine, , etc.

    • @DuskAndHerEmbrace13
      @DuskAndHerEmbrace13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      College is good for more intangible skills, such as developing the understanding of how story works, developing your aesthetic education and understanding film culture. You can pick up technical skills pretty fast and it’s in your employers self-interest to teach you that to get you up to speed. However, no employer is going to spend the time teaching you the more intangible education you get from a [good] film school because it’s just impractical to teach that in a commercial setting. E.g. ‘Go away and watch Pudovkin and then structure your thoughts about it in an essay that I will comment on’. For that you need a window of time in college. Otherwise, it’s up to you to structure and go through that education by yourself and in your own time. Which just takes ages, and most people struggle to figure out how to even approach educating themselves in that way. Thing is, once you’ve got the solid, tangible technical skills, it’s those intangible skills in story and aesthetics that set you apart as you move higher up. Pretty much anyone can learn the ropes but only a few can create something that can genuinely be called art. That’s what people really value at a high level. The ability to say ‘I can tell a story better than anyone else’.

    • @DuskAndHerEmbrace13
      @DuskAndHerEmbrace13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry for the rant.

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    wow, the moment when you realize "this guy is the most competent person on youtube"

    • @geraldundone
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      Wow! Big compliment there. Thank you so much! 😃🙏

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    @majdkhawam7552 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    5 years later and the info packed in this video is literally GOLD!

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    You are seriously making some of the best content for content creators who don't have as much technical know-how.

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      Agreed

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    • @geraldundone
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      What a lovely metaphor. Thanks for this. 😃👍

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      Plus lobsters.

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      Oh God, how could I forget the lobsters! Thanks for making the image complete @@MiaogisTeas

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    @jdubbs21990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It's insane the amount of information you are offering your viewers for free. Thank you so much for helping us new videographers learn the trade with such detail :)

  • @MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL
    @MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    a constant streaming diarrhea of information.......... I love it. Nice job dude.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Thanks, mate. I checked out your BMPCC4K video and thought it was really great. Appreciate the comment and kind words. 😃

    • @jeremiahmendez4770
      @jeremiahmendez4770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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      And thus, and friendship was born. Also, this was the video I’ve been looking for. Years later.

  • @craigieb
    @craigieb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a Ninja V several months ago because of the extreme knowledge I gained from this video, and have done five complex greenscreen shoots since then. I have NEVER had greenscreen come out as well as I have with my new-to-me Sony Z280 and the 4:2:2 10-bit recording on the Ninja V. THANK YOU for making this all make sense!!

  • @eirjordan337
    @eirjordan337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    WHAT. Seriously that was amazingly accessible, accurate, entertaining, educational and well made video on what is probably some of the most boring, complicated, technical material there is when filmmaking and cameras are involved. WOW. I look forward to you building full out courses one day!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ha. Thanks! That's quite the review. Really appreciate it. 😃🙏

  • @estechmedia
    @estechmedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    this video is quite old, but it still teach me so many useful information today

  • @nowuknowthis1903
    @nowuknowthis1903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gerald, nice job. Don’t let these anti-detail comments stop the clarity of your videos. I appreciate that you took the time to research and condense the data into a clear explanation. This is pure rigor. I’m happy you have this passion. You obviously subscribe to the why do something if you aren’t going to do it well. There are guys who read the manual cover to cover then grab the device. The others pick it up, learn the minimum and call it good enough. Can you drop the “crazy” part and substitute…thorough, smart, bright, detailed, intense, rigorous. Crazy you are not.

  • @saintjames9
    @saintjames9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm basically half a decade late to this but it's the single most helpful resource I've encountered regarding codecs. Shocking that you seem to be the first person to have adequately understood and explained the most important aspects of this topic. Cheers.

  • @iainduncan733
    @iainduncan733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm only halfway through and I already had to stop, just to say that I've already learned more in this one video than I did in the last 10 that I watched. Awesome job, glad you were able to explain it so concisely.

  • @JamieFenn
    @JamieFenn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You are next level dude. I haven't come across anyones profile who drops the kind of knowledge like you. Forever followed.

  • @Storysium
    @Storysium 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Great video with a lot of useful information! My compliments for the way you explained and compressed this RAW data for us. :)

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks a lot. I'm glad to hear it was helpful. Cheers!

  • @Photographicelements
    @Photographicelements 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't tell how confused clients or directors are by all of this; I have confused so many people by sending AVCHD, "Can't you just send the 'normal' video files?"
    I'm sending this video to everyone, it just answers every question before they ask it.
    THANK YOU!

    • @Mrmonkeyman211
      @Mrmonkeyman211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But why would you ever send clients AVCHD. Not nescessary

    • @Photographicelements
      @Photographicelements 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mrmonkeyman211 They had their own editor.

  • @josecolon8143
    @josecolon8143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Mate! You have explained this huge subject better than many book, simple and to the point! Taking this so that my students watch it (today’s students are veeeeery slow)!
    Again; you are an outstanding educator!!!
    Excellent

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, Julio. That's a big compliment. Much appreciated, my friend. Cheers! 😃👍

    • @josecolon8143
      @josecolon8143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gerald Undone cheers!

  • @abinvmathew619
    @abinvmathew619 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is an absolute gem. I have been trying to create a color accurate workflow starting with how things are shot, but was completely lost with all these codecs and profiles. This video just gave me the perfect foundation to understanding all that's there to learn. Bloody brilliant you are Gerald. Thanks a ton.

  • @virtualtourscanada
    @virtualtourscanada 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EVERY TH-camR OUT THERE NEEDS TO WATCH THIS VIDEO! BEST VIDEO I HAVE EVER SEEN. STRAIGHT TO THE POINT, INFORMATIVE, SOLID PACE AND DONE. I can not stand 98% of other channel that have a 2-5 min intro of themselves with multiple side rants of themselves and water down content. BRAVO on this video!

  • @keepitsharppodcast
    @keepitsharppodcast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man all the years I been filmmaking I thought I knew what these codecs did but after today I knew nothing. But it did confirm that I knew the various ones where better that others a river of knowledge just came through my screen thank you so much and I hope to meet you one day at a workshop or somebody’s set or something. 🙏🏽🔥🎥

  • @kcblake
    @kcblake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your channel. I've been dealing with codecs for 20 years and still learned a bunch of new stuff from this video. Keep up the great work.

  • @jubelbrosseau7966
    @jubelbrosseau7966 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Some of the best, practical information on TH-cam. I love that it's highly concentrated because I can just pause, take notes, and search terms for more clarification. Takes me 2x as long to get through a video, but I find I've learned as much as I would have with hours of googling alone!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's really great to hear. I love that people are learning and getting use out of my videos. Thanks for saying so. Cheers! 😃👍

  • @kian8382
    @kian8382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a joy to watch your video and hear you talk, like a supercomputer, I'm not even sure how one can spill out so many pieces of knowledge per second.

  • @virgilwardmedia
    @virgilwardmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DUDE!! Not only are you super knowledgeable about this stuff, you also explain it so concisely and clearly. Incredible! I learned so much!

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    @Dogen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

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    @RandyParsley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    After watching this, I have finally realized how age has negatively impacted my cognitive abilities, cause I think I just short-circuited. I gleaned some good info that I was totally unfamiliar with, but there was a giant whooshing sound as much of it blasted right over my head. That's just me though. You are one of the best on TH-cam for explaining camera tech for sure.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You're probably being too hard on yourself, Randy, but I appreciate the compliment. 😃

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      @mediamannaman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I hear you, my friend. I'm 61 and "brain-damaged" (at least it feels like it) from many years of high-stress project management. I usually have to turn the play speed down to 75% for most of it Gerald's videos (and watch more than once), but well worth the time. I'm glad he plays a few of his bloopers at the end - was starting to think he was a cyborg or something. But again, it's worth whatever effort it takes to understand it because this is necessary information and Gerald packages and dispenses it better than anyone else I have found.

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      @keithschoeppler9866 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My thoughts exactly! I couldn’t even come up with the words and then I read your comments and was like BAM! That’s what I think! Lol

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      @DuganMccarty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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      @eastbaystreet1242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @lazysod3
    @lazysod3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my god, the joy I felt when you explained exactly what I've been trying to find explanation of @ 9:26. As a layperson just starting to try and make sense of this stuff it's really dizzying and this video helped me so much. Thank you, man.

  • @personaldronerepair6141
    @personaldronerepair6141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once again.
    Best time spent on TH-cam.
    Not being interrupted by a commercial every 3 seconds is damn well appreciated !
    Great Video !!

  • @cogmission1
    @cogmission1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Voluminous info relating at a fast enough rate to keep you awake! You, my friend are THE BEST! Thank you so much for your excellence!

  • @siaoguai
    @siaoguai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Yup, I ended up picking up a Atomos Ninja V for the same reason as Gerald said in the video. I wanted to record in 400mps but the cost of UHS-II SD cards are still prohibitively expensive and I did not want to deal with a possible failing SD card down the road either. SSD + Atomos Ninja V was the most economical option in the end.

  • @sutv6754
    @sutv6754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hung and got every word. Gold info. How you make an 18 minute plus video seem like 5 minutes is a testament to your great life changing channel. Thank you.

  • @nikoladze
    @nikoladze 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gerald, the amount of value you deliver with your videos is mind blowing! I’m looking forward to this channel grow very, very BIG. Thank you!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! That's very kind and encouraging. Appreciate it!

  • @DaveMcKeegan
    @DaveMcKeegan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    You should include a free prescription of aspirin with your videos … I need it after that.
    Awesome video :)

    • @JoaquimGonsalves
      @JoaquimGonsalves 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hahaha

    • @ShaayarAajnabee
      @ShaayarAajnabee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Take 81 mg. I'm a pharmacist. If you feel chest pain, take a chewable one.

    • @RiccardoPearlman
      @RiccardoPearlman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Da PIRIN tablets!

    • @sdyates2001
      @sdyates2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. Slow down. Good information, but I need up leaving or slowing your videos down to .75

  • @jarvis
    @jarvis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    really fascinating stuff! love your videos!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Jarvis. Appreciate the support! Cheers. 😃👍

    • @KyleFields
      @KyleFields 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ayyyeeee, Jarvis is a camera tech nerd too lol

  • @th8132
    @th8132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro, I've been wondering about the whole v30, 60, 90 etc, and you just answered this question better than any other video I've seen on this topic. Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @annoy_ken
    @annoy_ken 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your content. You make some of the most helpful technical reviews/overviews out there. I’ve worked in post for over 20years and have always struggled to explain these concepts to producers - this is the most succinct explainer which I will now crib from. And an added bonus - a semi review for the Atomos! Thanks!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Kenneth! I really appreciate that. Cheers! 😃🙏

  • @BarkandJack
    @BarkandJack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    My brain hurts, but this was so useful. Thanks for the info Gerald. Cheers, Adrian

  • @MrAlwaysOnTen
    @MrAlwaysOnTen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Getting ready to build my first computer in years since I was a kid and I’m referring back to this cuz I was thinking about getting the atomos ninja v for my fujifilm xt3, the information that you give out is always perfect

  • @cyclingmaven
    @cyclingmaven 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gerald. Many people are doing this video education videos but you are something special man. Thanks for all that you do.

  • @chevy1972t
    @chevy1972t 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where have you been all my TH-cam LIfe...? you are a wealth of valuable, technical information, presented with absolute clarity and precision that doesn't bore me to sleep...you are my TH-cam hero of the month...maybe the year...!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoa! Thanks, Anthony! That's a big compliment and I really appreciate it.

  • @leedonohue
    @leedonohue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    dude seriously.. you are one the most valuable channels on youtube for us filmmakers!!! thanks so much for taking the time to create such quality content!!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Lee! That's a big compliment. Very much appreciated, mate. Cheers! 😃👍

  • @OliverAlbold
    @OliverAlbold 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you very much for great overview. A lot of help to search further details on this topics. No stupid blabla. We get 19 minutes of condensed information. Really great!!

  • @heylou
    @heylou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seriously, you explain complex things, yet I fully understand everything at the end!! Incredible video

  • @billsmith5166
    @billsmith5166 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a very rare person that can understand what the viewer needs and teach it very concisely. That, and I only had to rewind 6 or so times to catch up this time. I've found that wearing some good grippy tennis shoes helps me keep up. Glad I found your channel.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha. You made me chuckle with the shoes.
      Thanks for the kind words! 😃🙏

  • @Ellebangs
    @Ellebangs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Amazingly useful as always! My current Workflow: Sony A7R3 (waiting for the S3) -> Atomos Ninja Inferno -> Resolve for CC -> ProRes 422 --> Premiere Pro --> ProRes422 --> Media Encoder --> H264/265 --> TH-cam :)

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thank you! 🤓🙏
      Why not just edit in Resolve and save the extra trip? 😜

    • @WheresNaldo
      @WheresNaldo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does CC mean in "Resolve for CC?" Thanks

    • @subscribeifyoulikemylogo1342
      @subscribeifyoulikemylogo1342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WheresNaldo Color correction, and yes @Gerald Undone is right, @ellebangs why not just edit in Resolve. You're already there. BTW, what's your acquisition codec with Sony A7R3 and Ninja Inferno?

  • @herurishardana5618
    @herurishardana5618 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Your channel is great, full of useful contents for me. Thank you.

  • @alexanderdjr
    @alexanderdjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where have you been all my life?! Dude, thank you for all of this! So well done and all in one place!
    I’m floored. Seriously, thanks.

  • @jupcoug
    @jupcoug 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude! Thank you, just THANK YOU! I'm just starting out in videography; and I think I've just learned more from binge watching some of your videos over the last 2 hours than I've learned over the last entire year. Subbed, your videos are the BEST!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much, Kevin! That means a lot and is really encouraging. Cheers! 😃🙏

  • @Dave_Stafford
    @Dave_Stafford 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant.. this video is high compression with no loss of quality. Thank you!

  • @BryanSchultzitis
    @BryanSchultzitis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    BOOM! I've been waiting for this. Also, I liked the more traditional, "What is HAPening".

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ha! Thanks, Bryan. I had a couple people request that I go back to that "What is happening". Glad you approve! 😃👍

    • @thejsonYT
      @thejsonYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gerald Undone each subsequent video, HAPening should be higher pitch

  • @AdolfoPerezAlvarez
    @AdolfoPerezAlvarez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is by and large the best video explaining codex on TH-cam. I applaud you good sir. Thank you.

  • @BrogenDavis33
    @BrogenDavis33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I expected to see on the other 50 videos I had watched today.... You are hitting the nail on the head! Bravo. You will be a huge success.

  • @stvprk
    @stvprk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolute quality work my guy! Really loved how you presented all this information. Great audio, clean titles, clear explanations, and no bs music! I'm so glad this popped up on my recommendations because I was planning on making my post-production more manageable in premiere by using prores video previews + proxies. I was using H.264 throughout my whole workflow and I'm suffering tremendously because of how much it taxes my computer when I edit and export. Doing multiple projects with multiple deliveries with 2~4 re-edits each is an absolute nightmare. Would love to see which codecs you would use for different client work from production -> post-production. Thank you for this information, looking forward to more content from you!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for this, Steve. Really appreciate your kind words and encouragement. Cheers, mate! 😃👍

  • @oren.kirschenbaum
    @oren.kirschenbaum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    great videos, very informative and well presented (and produced!). looking forward to the next undone!

  • @hatonafox5170
    @hatonafox5170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked, Subscribed, and best of all was that you answered all of my questions - literally - all of them. I'll mention you in my academy awards acceptance speech one day. "I'd like to thank the Academy for this wonderful award but I'd like to tell you about the first I got 'undone' as a videographer".
    Thanks Gerald.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha. I love it. I'll be waiting for that speech.
      Thanks! Glad the video was helpful.

  • @jeremyricci5405
    @jeremyricci5405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This might be one of the best videos on this topic on youtube. Love the constant streaming of information, haha. Great job, and THANK YOU!

  • @artsvanberg
    @artsvanberg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such an amazing video! It's so clear and it flows so well! Thank you so much for making this video! 🙏😍 My dream scenario would be to not work with proxies and be able to work with raw files. And also be able to record the footage straight onto a fixed computer.

  • @carlwomble7060
    @carlwomble7060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Man, you bring it every vid.

  • @stefansmuts8882
    @stefansmuts8882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Epic video as always. You’ve managed to make all of this so easy to understand - thanks Gerald! Keep them coming! This channel is going to be huge!

  • @wooster7571
    @wooster7571 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this. I got my R5 a few months ago as a retirement present and felt that after many years of stills - only, I should give video a go. I've just started trying to learn about it and have become vey interested but was totally confused about all the stuff you covered here so your explanation was unbelievably helpful to me. I'm contemplating adding a ninja v to my kit.
    I'm subscribed and grateful for what you give so eloquently and at no cost on here.

  • @ethanHat
    @ethanHat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for all your hard work, man!

  • @ericadams6608
    @ericadams6608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Gerald, that was amazing! Goodness only knows how many words were in that but your knowledge is fantastic. Lots to think about but the Ninja v is looking good. Thanks, cheers!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha. Thanks, Eric. It was close to 5000 words, but don't tell anyone. 😜

  • @RyanH0809
    @RyanH0809 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shows what I know... I've just been shooting away. I had to learn the hard way how important setting up your equipment is. This is a seriously good video. The world of video and codecs is crazy convoluted. So I'm glad to see all this information in one place!

  • @numbersix9477
    @numbersix9477 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was the most succinct and informative TH-cam video I've ever encountered. Bravo!

  • @B_urdeNing
    @B_urdeNing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Video! As someone who wants to be a hybrid shooter, I really needed this info.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Thanks, Peter. That's what I want to hear. 😃👍

    • @B_urdeNing
      @B_urdeNing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@geraldundone I work in computer science and am only a photography lover, my field doesn't relate much to the knowledge but the background makes it easier to understand what you went over in the video. It's pretty hard to find a comprehensive guide on these topics and I think you've done a really great job.

  • @sharathchandra1023
    @sharathchandra1023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is "The Best video" of all regarding codecs in TH-cam! Gearld undone greatest clarifier!🙏🙏🙏
    Your name is apt!

  • @AP-lw4rw
    @AP-lw4rw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn you must have the best codec in your brain to articulate all this info so well! LOVE IT!

  • @Temersson
    @Temersson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cannot thank you enough... You've got a gift of teaching, Sir. So much info packed into an easily digestible vid. You just became my hero. Getting this much solid data on this subject from the net would (and has been) be a pain in the butt. Again, thank you so much for your time and effort, Sir.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome! Thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate this comment. Glad it was helpful. Cheers! 😃👍

  • @ademenchuk
    @ademenchuk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude, you are awesome! A ton of good info 👍 Thank you!

  • @monkeyman1327
    @monkeyman1327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Standard feature film work flow is ArriRaw - > DNX36 or 115 MXF files for Avid editing (graded w/ LUT and CDL info which we preserve in an ALE in our bins for later) which are later online back to the ArriRaw for grading and output to DCP from that RAW with a high fidelity DNX codec often rendered out as well.
    When we screen films we will go straight from Avid to DCP w/ whatever offline codec we're working at and we project that, obv 115 is the better format for that because the bitrate is far higher. VFX is given pulls from the RAW acquisition which is rendered out to DPX or EXR files for work. And they send back EXR for the final but we get whatever DNX flavor we're working with in the cutting room sent back to us with the LUT and CDL information applied to this so it matches the offline.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Awesome! Thanks for sharing all that. Do you ever run into issues with other people working on that project and that workflow or are they all setup to handle it already?

  • @aranu157
    @aranu157 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've worked at a local camera store for over 5 years and although I'm only barely part time now, one thing is educating the consumers. You're seriously one of the smartest gear/technically person I've ever seen and its so refreshing!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! That's a big compliment. Much appreciated! 😃👍🙏

  • @GamerDad101
    @GamerDad101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is by far one of the most helpful videos I have ever come across on video workflow process and technology! Thank you for this. It's now 2020 and the info is just as relevant today as it was when you posted it in 2018! It's really helpful for those like myself that are trying to startup a youtube channel or indie film makers. Thanks and I'm definitely subscribing to your channel.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! That means a lot. Cheers!

  • @facundocordara3258
    @facundocordara3258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I believe the workflow you choose must be suited to your particular workstation. I'm currently using Cineform, and the primary reason behind it, is that it's GPU accelerated. I tried DNx, but with multiple streams it would bog down my CPU, and MOV container is limited to 4GB RAM usage, so MXF is a must. I'm running a Ryzen 7 1700x and 16GB RAM, so with Cineform i can put most of the load on my GTX 1060 freeing up resources to other resource consuming tasks like stabilizing. Since it supports 4K 10bit it's more than enough for my needs, when transcoding or creating a master render for an EDL when going from PPro to Resolve.
    Having a workflow where you have fast enough disks and you aren't reading and writing of a same disk at the same time is just as important as what codec you choose.
    Great video, lots of info and very well explained.

    • @facundocordara3258
      @facundocordara3258 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      With a master render and an EDL you can practically do whatever you want. With a XML things get tricky, since every NLE interprets them differently, and Resolve can be cumbersome in that regard

  • @bagrambill
    @bagrambill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So much great information... thank you...

  • @lindseyrecanati8080
    @lindseyrecanati8080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for all this info!!! your videos are literally hours of research packed up in a couple of minutes!!!! So helpful !!! still on the edge of understanding the differences between all these codecs but i guess i'll have to watch the video again... Keep up the good job!!

  • @DigitalKitchenTas
    @DigitalKitchenTas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you I have wanted a good communicator as you are to explain this to me for a long time. You are one of the very best communicators on TH-cam

  • @karmanyaahm
    @karmanyaahm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "320GB per hour is impractical"
    > Linus Tech Tips has entered the chat

    • @jakew3
      @jakew3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol..

    • @st.michaelthearchangel7774
      @st.michaelthearchangel7774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2020 has entered the chat.

    • @musicxsam1
      @musicxsam1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      just make a new server with 120PB and you’ll be fine!! 😝

  • @rushmoresociety2577
    @rushmoresociety2577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing content. Thank you so much for all your hard work on these videos.
    To summarize for the Sony A7III, the two main advantages of purchasing the Atomos Ninja V are being able to get 8-bit 4.2.2, and a higher quality codex, such as DNxHR for PC into Premiere Pro, which is less compressed and easier to edit? Am I even close?
    Bonus: you definitely earned a subscriber!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the kind words and for subscribing. Very much appreciated.
      And yeah, you pretty much nailed it. There's also tools on the Ninja you can use for exposure: wave forms, false colour, etc.

  • @legrosx
    @legrosx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super Duper video as always! There aren't many people out there diving in and explaining all those technical details and none of them do it as well as you do!
    A great follow up on this video would be to talk about the encoding part of the Codec and the misconception about data rate vs image quality. Higher Mbits/s does not necessarily mean higher image quality. Camera manufacturers always communicate on data rate which is a bit misleading and no one talks about image quality.
    It all depends on the internal implementation of the video encoder that is in the camera. I used to work for a semiconductor company doing h.264 and HEVC video encoder ASICs and I can tell you that companies often cut corners on supported encoding features as the hardware complexity to support those feature is exponential (for some of them) and trade-offs have to be made. Hence, you can have 2 different encoders with the same output data rate (XX Mbits/s) but different image quality, only because one encoder works harder than the other when compressing/encoding the original data.
    BTW, this is not true for decoders: they must support all features of the video standard (h.264/HEVC/etc) to be certified.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind words and for the suggestion. Great idea! I'll definitely add it to the list. Cheers!

  • @abhilashm7977
    @abhilashm7977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    By far the most exploratory video I've ever seen on this concept. Amazing work 🙌
    Sub instantly

  • @markshirley01
    @markshirley01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You've undone my mind 😎👌

  • @joshdiditt
    @joshdiditt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good informative video.

  • @Snailmale7
    @Snailmale7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's still watching this video today? Thank you for making it plain !!!!!! Now it all makes sense !!!

  • @KeckerErt
    @KeckerErt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alexa XT+ Workflow:
    ARRIRAW 4:3 Opengate (Codex Drive)
    >> Intermediate: ProRes 4444 XQ
    >> Proxy’s: ProRes 422 Proxy
    >> Delivery: DCP 2k
    This is my favorite example of saving 50% of space by transcoding to ProRes and still keeping the quality at a maximum. LightIron introduced me to this method and it is genius.
    Greetings from a DIT, really enjoyed the repetition of all the abbreviations!

  • @karlbratby4349
    @karlbratby4349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Genius.. although most went way over my head.

  • @Channel8eight
    @Channel8eight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video buddy! A+

    • @LoverOfTech
      @LoverOfTech 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had to sub to the channel his explanation was awesome

  • @JoaquimGonsalves
    @JoaquimGonsalves 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video saved me a bunch of money even before fully understanding where i need to invest next in storage. Thank you so much Gerald!

  • @drsus0
    @drsus0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude... you killed this. Very Impressed at how you broke it all down, didn’t get in the weeds and made sense of a nonsensical subject matter , thank you

  • @urionandon
    @urionandon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    added in favorites

  • @FoodTechLife
    @FoodTechLife 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yep that ninja seems super useful and I wish it were in my budget. I don’t it makes sense to get one until I replace my G85 though.
    Speaking of codecs and proxies. I hear Davinci Resolves paid version has a great h.264 decoder which eliminates the need for proxies.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed! And yeah, I have found that some NLEs definitely have more & less of a need for proxies. I've heard similar things about Resolve, but don't use it much myself. 😃

    • @johnbancroft5242
      @johnbancroft5242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I shoot with a GH5 and a Atomos Ninja Inferno 25 FPS, 4K 10 BIT 4.2.2 Pro Res, (I use my Mac Pro and FCPX mainly for editing) but I am just getting into Davinci Resolve Studio (the paid version) and it will run 4K 10 Bit, H.264. straight out of the GH5 onto a 4K timeline, plays back and edits perfectly.

    • @Rubin_Lopez
      @Rubin_Lopez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnbancroft5242 wow. Thanks gor sharing that. I been using resolve for & adobe for about a year now. I like resolves 15 interface better than adobes. But the free versions wont run adobe on my laptop even with proxies. But premiere pro timeline is virtually lag free even with 30+ clips. I been wanting to pay for resolves 15 dongle for a while now. But Couldn't get a definitive answer as to whether or not the paid version was much faster than the free 💪✌

  • @aarongill9771
    @aarongill9771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video! As always, so much great information packaged in a way that makes it easy to understand. Best channel on TH-cam!! Thanks so much for this.

  • @douglasmichel6361
    @douglasmichel6361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad I found you. For more reason than I care to type. Just picked up a Atomos Ninja V for my Nikon Z6, D850 & D5. You made my day on cost per GB compared to Sd/XQD 64 Cards iv’e been using internally. Very encouraging being I have a few 1TB 860 Evo’s laying around I can finally use.

  • @BlackWarriorLures
    @BlackWarriorLures 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Currently I'm using H.264 in my GH4. Ideally I'm, rather move to a 10 bit 4:2:2 depth and color space using a ProRes or DNxHR codec, probably just a standard quality there. I don't really want RAW. That's just too much data for me. I've started saving for the Ninja V. I could use that for any future cameras.
    If I went ProRes HQ or Avid HQx, I think I'd rather go RAW 3:1 or 4:1 instead.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! Thanks for sharing. I think you'll enjoy the Ninja. I've been loving it so far.

  • @vamanfilms89
    @vamanfilms89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are genius sir thank you

  • @ShaheelMhd
    @ShaheelMhd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a one stop shop for everything about codecs and containers. Really cleared many doubts of mine.

  • @CamsCampbell
    @CamsCampbell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got the Ninja V and your video was incredibly helpful. I've got a lot of figuring out to do yet, but I'm a lot closer to understanding how it works and what to do with it after watching your video. Nice one Gerald!

  • @Photographicelements
    @Photographicelements 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    RED: .R3D RED Code RAW & proxies at the same time, for variable bit rate & compression, 6:1 usually.
    Arri: ProRes4444 (or other ProRes).
    BlackMagic: I have not yet tested Black Magic RAW, but look forward to testing it; hope it performs like .R3D.
    Kinefinity: No idea.
    Everything else: Recorder + ProResHQ if possible, otherwise as high a data rate as the camera will record and 4:2:2 10bit if available. (This high capture workflow did come back to haunt me this year, as the "editor"/director could not handle the large files, did not know how to use proxies, and spent as little time as possible on the edit. :(
    It's trickier shooting in h.264, 4:2:0 8bit, lighting, color charts, white balance, etc need more time to be perfect; once mastered, then you jump to an expensive camera and don't have to worry so much :/
    Using a h.264, 4:2:0 8bit camera definitely stresses me out more than a pro camera, especially on limited budget shoots where there's only 4 hours at a location, to set up & shoot.
    I've handed off footage to clients/producers/etc before, who did not understand the wrapper file system, and they only copied the .MTS files, with no metadata, or screwed up the file folder structure, complicating the edit. DITs are very important.
    The Panasonic S1 is going to have groundbreaking recording capture....

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very detailed! Thanks. Love your comments as usual. And yeah, 8-bit 4:2:0 really doesn't leave much wiggle room. My biggest gripe with the a7 III.

    • @Photographicelements
      @Photographicelements 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@geraldundone I've used a burrito analogy to explain this topic before; the tortilla is the wrapper, etc.... and now I'm hungry..

    • @Photographicelements
      @Photographicelements 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geraldundone Yes, the a7iii :/; I use APS-C mode, but.. Sony's new cameras, March 2019?, will improve on the capture.

    • @mediamannaman
      @mediamannaman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you have some inside scoop on the Panasonic S1 recording specs that you can share, or just positive thinking? The most detailed info I found was that it will capture 4K60p, but I may have missed something.

    • @Photographicelements
      @Photographicelements 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mediamannaman The information I have is unofficial, but from a source I can't name. Within 2 weeks we should be getting an announcement from Panasonic. If you are going to buy a camera, I would wait until this announcement and take that time to determine what is most important to you in a camera, your current & future needs.

  • @TechReflex
    @TechReflex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man one has to be prepared and free their minds of other thoughts before starting to watch your videos otherwise its difficult to keep up with the codec you use for compressing information in a 15-20 minute video.

  • @maxloganworks2919
    @maxloganworks2919 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    EXCELLENT breakdown of Codecs and when/how/what to use.

  • @CipFlixTV
    @CipFlixTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey man, i have a question .. is the display of the Atomos Ninja V 30hz or 60hz ? and how is the lag of the video feed ?