I have a Coleman 196cc with two charging coils connected together with a brown and yellow. Is the yellow wire a ground, or a charging wire like the brown??
Not regulator, rectifier. Rectifier changes ac voltages to dc voltage. I’m not sure ,it may have a regulator too, but without the rectifier it would not make dc voltage. Love your stuff and appreciate your knowledge. Have learned much, thanks.
Me Going Fast channel did a similar video showing all the wiring needed to the lights, this video answered questions about the Tillotson 👍👍. Looks like the flywheel is no different than that video.
ive caught that govonor spring almost broke my leg trying to hold the cart back while i pulled the plug wire off to kill it because i didnt have a kill wire hooked up yet. im finally getting around to doing this for my world record charity ride this summer testing has been flawless. however i only go about 800 yards round trip and the battery has an onboard charger so when its parked at home its constantly on a trickle charger. i suck at wiring so thank you for explaining it to where even i can understand it
Whenever you see a rapid pulsing of the headlight it is because they are being run directly off the charging coil on AC current. Once you install the rectifier/regulator, the pulsing should quit, since they are now being fed "clean" DC current and also seeing a constant voltage from the battery. While they may get slightly brighter from the slight voltage increase when revved from idle to RPM , they should not have the "strobe" effect that the un-filtered charge coil current provided.
@@motododo4626 Yes, you will need a new flywheel. When I upgraded from a HiSun 196 to the 224 I just swapped the flywheel over and it works great. If you don't have a flywheel to steal from another engine, monsterscooterparts has a 3-magnet flywheel for $27.49 that looks like it'll work.
Thank you my friend! This is exactly what I needed to see. Based on this, at 3amps I can charge a small battery. Any info from Tillotson what the minimum CCA should be for this type of motor?
@Redbeardsgarage you should do a video building a shifter kart/buggy with a vertical shaft engine and mower transaxle like a Peerless 820. You can put sprockets/pulleys on the axles of the transaxle and run chain or something down to the live axle or half shafts. I'd bet a lot of people would want to see that. Just an idea
@Knight Recon late reply, but I just installed one of the electric start kits and I most certainly would not remove the governor using the replacement flywheel the kits come with. It's awful
Nice video buddy! You got me thinking: if i got a TILLY 212 electric start, and opted off a battery all together... dont you think that one coil that comes stock would power a 7 inch LED light bar at 12V and 1.5A when running? I bet it would, and i really dont mind pull starting. Thanks again for the ideas.
It's very important to check if the existing flywheel has magnets on the inside. Most e-start engine's do, most other engine's don't. Without magnets on the inside of the flywheel, the output of the coils will be close to zero amps.
I have a non electric start Predator. Where can I get a flywheel with magnets to convert it (along with coils and regulator) to have a charging system?
So does the Tillotson have 1.5amp charging out of the box, and you've just increased it to 3? Do I understand this correctly? Or was there zero charging capability until you added 3amps worth? Can't tell if at 3:10 you said you added that 1.5a charging wire yourself already and were doubling up.
I have a 16hp and it has a single coil , on a log splitter , and I need more charging , so I've bought the dual coils not hooked up yet , so with one stock coil there is no rectifier but two coils I will need one . Cheers .
What to do if you have after market parts to soup up the bike. I remember hearing that the “stock” flywheels could not handle the revs, but I still need to charge!
So if I have the charging coils where they are daisy chained together so I only have one wire coming from behind the flywheel do I only need a rectifier/regulator with 3 wires (coil wire,out put wire/ ground wire)?
I have a 420cc predator motor from harbor freight and I have a push start installed but I am having issues getting it started it's been sitting for a while but I have clean oil I have not checked the spark plugs I don't know if it could be something around my carburetor there's fuel in it though I just don't know what to do to get it started because it won't start it cranks but it won't start
I also need help selecting the correct load resistor to stop pulsing on my bt200 with an led headlight. He did mention the coil puts out 1.5 amps so if I assume my regulator is putting out 12v with no battery it would be 12/1.5 so an 8ohm resistor . My question is do I need to check the voltage after voltage drop from the led to know for sure what resistor to use and is a battery even required or is the resistor not required with a battery.
When this is all wired up and working properly, what voltage should you be reading on your battery? For example on a car, your battery should be reading like 12.5ish volts while the car is off. When the car is running, the alternator takes that to about 14V. Should you see something similar on this setup? Would the voltage increase when at full throttle vs. idle? I am just trying to make sure my setup is connected properly. When running, I am seeing the same battery voltage as when off.
I am seeing the same thing. I put the Go kart on Jack Stands and at wide open throttle I see the battery slowly go up in voltage but only to around 12.8 to 12.9. At idle it seems to be the same voltage as when the Go kart was started.. I hope someone answers this question.
@@venomchris5818 it's because he used half wave coils with a full wave rectifier. This is a shit way to try this. You need the "charging coils" 2 wire coils and a full wave rectifier.
Would I need the dual coil for a coleman ct200u. I want to add lights to it? Also, I have a bx200 that already has a light, where would I get a single coil to add to it?
I have 2 word coming out of Duramax xp7hp electric start. There is 2 wires coming out of the magneto. It's hooked up besides the one I didn't see when I rewired it. It's a black wire with a white strip any idea what it is?
Hey the link for the voltage regulator says it's for 150cc engines, will this work for 196? The regulator from go powersports for that engine only has 3 wires, 2 green and a red, can you explain?
Hey sir!I would like to install a charging system on honda gx160. The hole for a charging coil have not a thread. I will do them... and do you suggest me a kit flywheel and charging coil with a regulator/rectifier. Sorry fo my bad english! Thank you!
I really don't mind if I continue using the pull start. However I'd like to do the headlight and then add front turn signals, rear turn signals, brakelight and tale light. Do you have any video on this?
A question I have as I'm preparing to install charging coils / starter motor to my Honda powered pressure washer, isn't there a rectifier / regulator installed inside the key switch box? If not then I need to locate one to be wired into the box as I intend to mount one to my setup.
I’m running a stage 2 kit I wonder if I can even do this now 🤦🏻♂️. Guess I’ll take the flywheel off when i get my muddskipper twister with the 11hp 212
I need some help. Going to watch this, but my needs are a little different. I have a 15hp 420cc horizontal engine. Would like to set up a similar system that’ll charge a 12v deep cycle marine battery. Do you know roughly how many amp hours you could charge with in an hour? Is there a calculator. I don’t have an electric start, can I put one on?
Can you show a video of you putting back the electric starter key switch stock back with the 12 volt regulator I would like to keep my original key switch and put a 12 V regulator going to add headlights need some help can you direct me to the right direction
Dammit red beard your good all this knowledge I need for my project and more thanks buddy I’m putting a Honda 13hp on my golf cart taking my time with your knowledge thanks again
I think I have a bad rectifier. Mine is wired the same as yours. I get 3 to 10 volts DC out but that's not enough to charge the battery. The voltage goes up with RPM but at a certain point it reverses and starts going down with more rpm.
I have a tecumseh engine, I would like to know if I can put something similar to it to put lights on my Go kart I would really appreciate it if you could help me
Will this work on a 420 predator and will it keep battery charged if I install lights, like tail light and head lights led. It’s for a golf cart project?
I wanted to install a double charge coil on a predator 212cc hemi, but it kept hitting the inside of the flywheel. Any Tips on how to correct this problem?
This whole instructional is awesome but the cvt drilled to hold the crank is brilliant
Knowing is half the battle. Was always my favorite.
Great Video. I’m finishing my sawmill and needed the motor to charge the battery. I’ll put a card in my video to your’s… thanks.
was planning on wiring my bike this weekend and still had some questions and this answered all of them. Great video, perfect timing
I have a Coleman 196cc with two charging coils connected together with a brown and yellow. Is the yellow wire a ground, or a charging wire like the brown??
Thank you so much for this video. This has been a huge issue with my drift trike hooking up the battery and lights. Now I know!
Not regulator, rectifier. Rectifier changes ac voltages to dc voltage. I’m not sure ,it may have a regulator too, but without the rectifier it would not make dc voltage. Love your stuff and appreciate your knowledge. Have learned much, thanks.
it is a rectifier and regulator
yes proper term is regulator/rectifier, its 2 in one
Ive watched @ Red Beard's Garage videos before but I never knew the intro was a banger like that!!!
Me Going Fast channel did a similar video showing all the wiring needed to the lights, this video answered questions about the Tillotson 👍👍. Looks like the flywheel is no different than that video.
ive caught that govonor spring almost broke my leg trying to hold the cart back while i pulled the plug wire off to kill it because i didnt have a kill wire hooked up yet. im finally getting around to doing this for my world record charity ride this summer testing has been flawless. however i only go about 800 yards round trip and the battery has an onboard charger so when its parked at home its constantly on a trickle charger. i suck at wiring so thank you for explaining it to where even i can understand it
Whenever you see a rapid pulsing of the headlight it is because they are being run directly off the charging coil on AC current. Once you install the rectifier/regulator, the pulsing should quit, since they are now being fed "clean" DC current and also seeing a constant voltage from the battery. While they may get slightly brighter from the slight voltage increase when revved from idle to RPM , they should not have the "strobe" effect that the un-filtered charge coil current provided.
So I don't have a battery does that mean I can just hook the rectifier straight to my headlight for strictly lighting purposes
And I have the predator 224 do I need to get a special flywheel to work with the coils?
@@motododo4626 Yes, you will need a new flywheel. When I upgraded from a HiSun 196 to the 224 I just swapped the flywheel over and it works great. If you don't have a flywheel to steal from another engine, monsterscooterparts has a 3-magnet flywheel for $27.49 that looks like it'll work.
@@kentsugden6865 sweet I actually have a 196 off my coleman ct200u ex. I'll jack its flywheel and coil hahaha
Thank you my friend! This is exactly what I needed to see. Based on this, at 3amps I can charge a small battery. Any info from Tillotson what the minimum CCA should be for this type of motor?
I like to use lawn mower batteries on mine but you can use a mid sized atv battery around a size 8 or 10 will work great
@Redbeardsgarage you should do a video building a shifter kart/buggy with a vertical shaft engine and mower transaxle like a Peerless 820. You can put sprockets/pulleys on the axles of the transaxle and run chain or something down to the live axle or half shafts. I'd bet a lot of people would want to see that. Just an idea
@ Red Beard's Garage, 7:47 you said charging coil, isn't that the spark coil!? Charging coils are under flywheel, correct?
yes huh he meant to say spark coil. all good.
Momma always says stupid is as stupid does.
Got to love these engines just so many upgrades you can do just got my first tilly I love it
@Knight Recon late reply, but I just installed one of the electric start kits and I most certainly would not remove the governor using the replacement flywheel the kits come with. It's awful
Where can you find a aluminum flywheel with inner charging coils for running lights on predator 212 motors?
The golden question
Nice video buddy! You got me thinking: if i got a TILLY 212 electric start, and opted off a battery all together... dont you think that one coil that comes stock would power a 7 inch LED light bar at 12V and 1.5A when running? I bet it would, and i really dont mind pull starting. Thanks again for the ideas.
The regulator is actually a rectifier/regulator since it’s purpose is to convert AC input to DC output.
Well just from watching your vids I was able to rewire my zero turn. Lol thanks brother
I don’t do hot rod but enjoy watching youll
It's very important to check if the existing flywheel has magnets on the inside. Most e-start engine's do, most other engine's don't. Without magnets on the inside of the flywheel, the output of the coils will be close to zero amps.
Can you use these charging coils with a billet flywheel?
I have the same question, really important to know.
That intro man. Wow that was great!!! Good job guys.
Like to do something like this with the predator 224 i have but in have no idea how id get the mags for the after market fly when i got on it now.
Hope This video gets million views 🙏
Like other Small engine builds!
I have a non electric start Predator. Where can I get a flywheel with magnets to convert it (along with coils and regulator) to have a charging system?
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So does the Tillotson have 1.5amp charging out of the box, and you've just increased it to 3? Do I understand this correctly? Or was there zero charging capability until you added 3amps worth? Can't tell if at 3:10 you said you added that 1.5a charging wire yourself already and were doubling up.
I have a 16hp and it has a single coil , on a log splitter , and I need more charging , so I've bought the dual coils not hooked up yet , so with one stock coil there is no rectifier but two coils I will need one . Cheers .
What size battery would you recommend for this setup?
What is the max amp hour size battery it can charge?
Is there any way to do this with a billet flywheel?
What to do if you have after market parts to soup up the bike. I remember hearing that the “stock” flywheels could not handle the revs, but I still need to charge!
What should the Battery voltage read once the Regulator / Rectifier is installed and the engine is idling?
What if your rectifier regulator has 3 wires. 1 red with fuse and 2 blue 12v DC? It's so many I'm confused 🤔
If I was going to connect it to the original keystart, white wires do I use ON the keystart box???
So if I have the charging coils where they are daisy chained together so I only have one wire coming from behind the flywheel do I only need a rectifier/regulator with 3 wires (coil wire,out put wire/ ground wire)?
will this work with a stage 4 212 predator? im just curious because of the billet fly wheel
I have a 420cc predator motor from harbor freight and I have a push start installed but I am having issues getting it started it's been sitting for a while but I have clean oil I have not checked the spark plugs I don't know if it could be something around my carburetor there's fuel in it though I just don't know what to do to get it started because it won't start it cranks but it won't start
Thanks for share your knowledge with us, man. A new like added. New channel inscription added too. Your channel is a must to learn “how to do”.
You briefly mentioned it but how would you stop the pulsing of a headlight like on my Coleman?
I also need help selecting the correct load resistor to stop pulsing on my bt200 with an led headlight. He did mention the coil puts out 1.5 amps so if I assume my regulator is putting out 12v with no battery it would be 12/1.5 so an 8ohm resistor . My question is do I need to check the voltage after voltage drop from the led to know for sure what resistor to use and is a battery even required or is the resistor not required with a battery.
Does anyone make a billet flywheel with starter gear for the predator 212/224?
are charging coils compatible with billet flywheels?
That’s what I’m wondering
will this work on a DuroMax XP18HPE 440cc 18-Hp?
Red you remove the starter switch to install the rectifier regulator can we have those two at the same time?
When this is all wired up and working properly, what voltage should you be reading on your battery? For example on a car, your battery should be reading like 12.5ish volts while the car is off. When the car is running, the alternator takes that to about 14V. Should you see something similar on this setup? Would the voltage increase when at full throttle vs. idle? I am just trying to make sure my setup is connected properly. When running, I am seeing the same battery voltage as when off.
I am seeing the same thing. I put the Go kart on Jack Stands and at wide open throttle I see the battery slowly go up in voltage but only to around 12.8 to 12.9. At idle it seems to be the same voltage as when the Go kart was started.. I hope someone answers this question.
@@venomchris5818 it's because he used half wave coils with a full wave rectifier. This is a shit way to try this. You need the "charging coils" 2 wire coils and a full wave rectifier.
Thanks for the tip on the torque wrench 👍🏾👍🏾
Would I need the dual coil for a coleman ct200u. I want to add lights to it? Also, I have a bx200 that already has a light, where would I get a single coil to add to it?
So can you put two double coils on there and have a 6 amp output?
i ordered a dual charging coil setup and it has a positive and negative output, how should i connect that up
Does a non-electric start Tillitson 212 Hemi have a lighting coil already in it? Or is that option only on E-Start models?
Will this work on the tillotson 225 performance engine?
What do I do if I want to do a bilit flywheel with the charging coil
I have 2 word coming out of Duramax xp7hp electric start. There is 2 wires coming out of the magneto. It's hooked up besides the one I didn't see when I rewired it. It's a black wire with a white strip any idea what it is?
Nice video man I was just watching the electric start wiring video and I'm stoked to watch this one.
So the regulator connects to the motor itself where does the battery connect ? To the spaces where these are mounted??
Can you run an electric oil pump off that? Thinking of sticking a turbo on the 212 for the hell of it.
So I want to run headlights and tail lights from my battery. Where do I run battery wires from ( from engine to battery) to keep it charged?
I purchased an Everett 10 amp charging coil that has two wires coming out of the coil do I put each wire to each input on the regulator?
Hey the link for the voltage regulator says it's for 150cc engines, will this work for 196? The regulator from go powersports for that engine only has 3 wires, 2 green and a red, can you explain?
Hey sir!I would like to install a charging system on honda gx160. The hole for a charging coil have not a thread. I will do them... and do you suggest me a kit flywheel and charging coil with a regulator/rectifier. Sorry fo my bad english! Thank you!
Where can I get the parts for this. there is no lim
nk at the bottom of the video
I really don't mind if I continue using the pull start. However I'd like to do the headlight and then add front turn signals, rear turn signals, brakelight and tale light. Do you have any video on this?
No link for the flywheel? And is it limited to hemi or non-hemi?
I truly appreciate u red beard!
A question I have as I'm preparing to install charging coils / starter motor to my Honda powered pressure washer, isn't there a rectifier / regulator installed inside the key switch box? If not then I need to locate one to be wired into the box as I intend to mount one to my setup.
I think they have a diod in the switch somewhere
is there a second part to this video, if you take the key switch out how do you start the bike
What is the best location to bolt on regulator. My go kart didn't have one from factory, so I have no clue where it goes? Thanks in advance.
is there a billit flywheel thats works with the chaging system or no?
Do you always need a battery for lights, or can you get away with just using a charging coil
You can take 4 of those and nip the overlap then tack weld them into a square. Wouldn’t that be insane.
Good video
Is it possible to put a charging coil on a Lifan 2.5 hp 50cc engine?
Thanks Keven
I don't think so. Thanks for watching
Will this work with a billet flywheel? Do they only have one magnet?
What is a list of everything that you use in that video
For some reason my 212 is only putting out 3.5 volts to the battery. What is wrong?
I’m running a stage 2 kit I wonder if I can even do this now 🤦🏻♂️. Guess I’ll take the flywheel off when i get my muddskipper twister with the 11hp 212
I need some help. Going to watch this, but my needs are a little different. I have a 15hp 420cc horizontal engine. Would like to set up a similar system that’ll charge a 12v deep cycle marine battery. Do you know roughly how many amp hours you could charge with in an hour? Is there a calculator. I don’t have an electric start, can I put one on?
What if you got a flywheel and the taper bore was too big for the crankshaft? Could you use a shim and still use the flywheel?
is that side cover two parts with the electric start or just one part
I bought one of the voltage regulators but my wires are in different order then the one in the video. Is the wiring going to still the same?
Can I put one of these on a predator 420?
What type of voltage regulator should I use for my predator 420?
Same one in this video
What if Im gonna use the original starter key. Where does the 2 black wires and brown wire that come from the key go?
Anyone know if I can power a Coleman mini bike light from a Ghost engine by doing something like this?
So if yellow and orange go to the coil where do I were my kill switch too?
Can you show a video of you putting back the electric starter key switch stock back with the 12 volt regulator I would like to keep my original key switch and put a 12 V regulator going to add headlights need some help can you direct me to the right direction
So the black wire is just not needed? Thanks for the great video!!
@redbeardsgarage
So with this setup on my stock predator 212cc I can run some headlights on my yerfdog gokart?
Only with coils and matching flywheel.
Dammit red beard your good all this knowledge I need for my project and more thanks buddy I’m putting a Honda 13hp on my golf cart taking my time with your knowledge thanks again
is there a way to mount 4 coils on instead of just 2?
I think I have a bad rectifier. Mine is wired the same as yours. I get 3 to 10 volts DC out but that's not enough to charge the battery. The voltage goes up with RPM but at a certain point it reverses and starts going down with more rpm.
Can you put a charging system and electric start onto a 212cc Predator hemi?
I have a tecumseh engine, I would like to know if I can put something similar to it to put lights on my Go kart I would really appreciate it if you could help me
can a lighting coil charge the battery as well with a rectifier regulator?
Would this work on a 212 pred?
Yes, one of my 212 predators has a stator near my flywheel.
Yup as long as you have a 3 magnet flywheel and it has the right taper for the crankshaft
Will this work on a 420 predator and will it keep battery charged if I install lights, like tail light and head lights led. It’s for a golf cart project?
Can I use this with my aluminum flywheel 😮
just wondering if the stator will fit in a honda gx120 or if it will work at all
I wanted to install a double charge coil on a predator 212cc hemi, but it kept hitting the inside of the flywheel. Any Tips on how to correct this problem?
If you have a hemi predator, you need a Kohler flywheel, which is hard to find and a lot more expensive.
@@pancudowny ,
Why couldn't i just mill out a little out of the predator flywheel so it has enough room for clearance?
Question How would you wire your headlight
Is that blue wire coming from the engine the kill switch?