Assassin's Creed: Origins - DLC | A Critique
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2018
- The season pass for Assassin's Creed: Origins was initially released for $39 and contained: The Hidden Ones, The Curse of the Pharaohs, 500 helix credits, and the Centurion and Horus equipment packs. While I don't usually discuss major DLC releases for games that I critique, I was so interested by the latter story expansion that I decided we had to give it a shot. This video is the result of playing through the expansions for roughly 20 hours and the analysis of multiple hours of interviews done by the development team. Please enjoy and leave any thoughts you have below!
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And my God was this just an INCREDIBLE game! Best Assassin's Creed in my opinion. So glad they did Ancient Egypt.
Never played it, was sit better than black flag?
mo k yes
@@mok7281 It's an rpg tho, it's absolutely AMAZING imo however i've always liked open world rpg's and did not like previous AC games so it's a matter of preference. The game is just epic in its environment.
It's different than black flag
I like them both about the same for their own reasons
@Avinash Fernandez Odyssey has bloatware. the environment didn't feel good at all imo. felt empty. ancient Egypt is much more interesting
Will Siwa ever know peace?
I shall go to the sarajina camp to see what will come of this. Lmao or something like that
shit giving is my job
Matt Courtenay why would he always say that
Joe joe?
Peace will wait in the duat
I absolutely love Ancient Egyptian history and lore as well. It's just a ludicrously fascinating time period.
I am probably in the minority here but of the two I preferred the Hidden Ones as it was like a continuation of the main game in that it was about the early days of the Assassin Brotherhood and Bayak learning more about the Order of Ancients (Templars). Curse of the Pharaohs wasn't bad in that sort of Undead Nightmare sort of way where you have a mostly grounded single player that has a DLC that makes supernatural elements that were either a very minor part of the main game or didn't exist at all the main game the focus of the DLC. Curse of the Pharaohs was fun but ultimately just didn't do it for me. Although perhaps I played both DLCs for Origins right after doing a completionist playthrough of the main game so maybe I was just burnt out on Origins at that point. Either way excellent game and two excellent DLCs.
Yup, I'm with ya in this one. I only cared about the hidden ones and one played once through the curse one
@@diegovcf4 Fair enough.
Completely agree
Remember when two big expansions cost only 25$ together? CDPR remembers
Oh I 'memba!
I played Witcher 3 and all of his expansions, read all W3 books, but I still prefer AC:O and its expansions though.
Já, yeah but why tho
Guess we'll never know
@@cotojee ok
The Secrets of the First Pyramids became free for everyone post launch. So whether or not you preorder tha game, you still get to play it.
i want a GOTY or complete edition like witcher so those who are late to this game can enjoy the complete experience
Gold edition exists.
Hopefully they do a trilogy bundle of AC Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla with all of the dlc for next gen but that probably won’t release for awhile
@@ClassicKrusty Maybe in 2022 :-)
@@vladvah77 That didn't happen.
@@CITYZEN50 I know, fuck Ubisoft bro....
"I'll gladly give you content tommorrow for 40 dollars today" is pretty much how I've always viewed season passes. And I never pre-order unless it's a game that I know for sure will turn out good and the bonuses are good enough.
I love how Ubisoft keeps cramming Ezio's soundtrack into every new AC, almost like it's the only AC OST that anyone remembers...
No season pass will ever be as good as Hearts of Stone & Blood and Wine. I would've shelled out $60 for that season pass because of how good and original it was, even if Blood and Wine clearly needed more time in the oven. AC Origin's season pass was OK, the story was average at best, but the visuals and locations elevate it.
R.I.P. hippos :'(
Marc Shanahan we just need ezios family to be the main Assassins Creed theme in every game
Just wondering...
Is it necessary to play Hearts of Stone in order to enjoy and understand Blood and Wine?
I remember the vocals of the theme from Revelations, that soundtrack was amazing. An also AC 3 and 4 I could hum those tunes right from the top of my head.
Lie Ren Not at all, there are two different stories
It creates a bridge emotion attachment from past to present games. A hook... if you ask me obviously.
Ok brother, you know I love your stuff but the word is not "quijones" is "COjones" that's all
You should do a critique of the Discovery Tour.
is it any good, have you done the discovery tour?
rcruz2008 you can use Caesar and Ptolemy which is cool
Personally the curse of the pharohs was the best AC content I have played. This is my favorite AC game and the curse of the pharaohs is my favourite part of it.
Hristo Kuymdjiev same! I fucking love everything about Origins!!! 😃😍
The scarab shadow was a great story add on it was well thought out side quest keep up the good work man
The tyranny of King Washington was just a vision from an apple 🍏 that George Washington found from a soldier, when he showed the artifact to Connor the whole story played out as a vision between them in an instant.
Luke“When I put myself into its lap it takes control and I can have a good time”Stephens
I bought the game at the end of 2020 and I got the ultimate edition for 18 euros. So I got all the DLCs and some other bonuses. It was definitely worth it. It’s an amazing game
What settings are you running the game on? Your specs are pretty good but I know this game is rough on higher end PCs
Luke what are your thoughts on games like Detroit become human, Until dawn, heavy rain, etc.. they seem very polarizing, and I would like to know how you feel about these types of games.
Those Pharaos are not zombies, they are mummies
nah they are shadows/ spirit :)
No they are holograms summoned from a children's card game.
no, they are tracer
Henry Films why have you forsaken us
I think you'll find that a mummy is a form of zombie. As is the Frankenstein monster.
You are an amazingly coherent storyteller. I wonder if you organize your thoughts at all, or either just start talking and letting things make sense in a sequential manner on the go
Good to see you making more videos Luke! Hope you’re feeling healthier brother ☺️
I just scrolled down your videos page, and landed here. Knew I'd easily find something good (found quite a few, of course). Nearly 5 years old by now, but the vid's still very watchable. Entertaining, knowledgeable and informative, relatable, trustworthy ... your usual qualities back then already on full display.
Btw, I also found out that the first vid of yours I watched was "The Last of Us - A Commentary" from July 2017 which luckily wasn't taken down after all. I like to think, that experience made me subscribe immediately, but I simply don't know for sure anymore.
Thanks for the many years of learning about games and gaming in the most enjoyable way possible for a game movie viewer like me.
Came here to watch a review on the DLCs, learnt some egyptian history aswell! Nice.
better than the main game imo. SO MUCH LOOT IN THE AFTERLIFE
love ur chanell so much. BEST REWIES AND CRITIQUES EVER!
I didn't do research before buying the 2 DLCs, and I was so blown away by Aten when I stumbled upon it
Indeed,it is fascinating.
What exactly caught your attention?
Im so glad someone finally explained this. I was so lost.
That's all good and stuff... but the massive tomb-thing in the bottom of the main map once you finish the main story and have the Pharoah DLC? Scariest shit I've played in a long time, like wtf.
Wait what? I don't remember that and I finished the entire game and the dlc
desheret desert. go there
Parry Nguyen nah you don’t need the pharaohs dlc for that
I felt like I'm in a nightmare on my sleep
Ah yeah. It was terrifying.
Why are the old Pharaohs so oddly proportioned? Akhenatens hands for example. Plus hes like 8ft tall. Any explanation? Prolonged exposure to the apple?
Pretty much.
Also,it's a bit of a thing with afterlives. They take the image they choose.
I bought the gold edition on sale for $20, worth it
So here's the situation for me, I freaking love and adore Assassin's Creed Origins, and had a great time with Assassin's Creed Odyssey as well, (the whole time except for whenever they had anything to do with the Assassin's Creed lore) and my question is should I get the DLC expansions for these games or no? Just curious what y'alls opinion is?
I haven't touched this game until I could buy the whole package for just 25 bucks LOL. Best bang for the buck ever 👏. I have played over 80 hours on nightmare mode. It was one hell of a ride! So yeah I recommend the whole experience ;-)
Hey Luke, are you gonna be playing Vampyr? Looks pretty interesting, I'd love to hear what you think about it.
It's nice that people are interested in these achient things. They really are interesting
I got the gold edition for $40 and had a great time with the game.
Love the In depth review of AC Origins, this game def gave me enough dlc and side missions that kept interested in the world.
Unlike god of war, that story was amazing but left me feeling like I got half of a game once I saw the credits rolling.
You sound allot like Dan Carlin from hardcore history bro!!
I have to agree with you saying he sounds like Dan Carlin. I was listening to my one these videos and got l briefly confused and thought I was listening to hardcore history
I got this game for $13 and the season pass for $13 both on sale, definitely worth it to me. This is the most fun I’ve had with a Ubi game since Black Flag
Hidden ones gave us one of the best moments in the series when Bayek kills Gamilat and the dialogue that follows. Curse gave us the most creative and interesting DLC I’ve played through in awhile (still need to play the Witcher). Hopefully Odyssey’s Atlantis DLC delivers.
great vid I enjoyed it
I wish they would make a second game exploring more of the origins of the hidden ones.
I prefer hidden ones over curse of the pharaohs,because it dived deeply in to the brotherhood and it's development
I haven't had this much fun playing a game in years. This is my 2nd playthrough of Origins but my 1st time playing the dlc. I've completed the Hidden Ones & now I'm on the 2nd dlc. I usually don't play games multiple times but I think this 1 is 1 I will. This is my 1st AC game so this was a learning experience. Perfect Timing that Mirage is on the way😊
Just a little FYI, i don't know if it's the same in Odyssey but the Secrets Of The First Pyramids mission in Origins can be obtained without any pre-order nonsense through Ubisoft Club, it costs 40 points but anyone can get it if they just play the game and do the Ubisoft Club Challenges (as well as a few weapons and stuff).
When the game was initially released that wasn't an option. But now that it's been out for a year it's available through the club. Same with the AC: Odyssey quest the blind king. Which I'm sort of annoyed about pre-ordering it and two months after the release you can get that quest through the club.
The curse of the Pharaohs was amazing, the visuals were breath taking. AC Origins was one of my favorites, sadly I did not like Odyssey as much.
I know this ain't related to Assassin's Creed as a whole but going over the topic of DLC and season passes. If the developer and publisher don't finish the season pass, does the consumer get their money back? Example; Anthem.
Tbh I never finished curse of the pharaohs because I needed to gain a lot of levels in order to stand a chance in the next mission and I couldn't be bothered because I knew it would take several hours of side content to do
I got the game on sale for only 7 euro, bought the season pass after i completed the whole story, i enjoyed my experience and do not regret my purchase
I really love your videos and would support your Patron if i had some spare money. I agree with you overall that the DLC should be looked at by the content they give vs hours of gameplay. If I get 14+hours of DLC and the story is lack luster and dry, then what is the point. I perfer the in depth stories and character development of what has been developed and what will be developing. I think Ubisoft does look at past developmental issues and does address them and builds upon a stronger game overall. I would like for you to do a comparison video of Odyssey and Origins, and know that will come within time, seeing how you are doing Origins content.
So Origins is an ARPG, and Odyssey is comparatively narrative? Less than W3, but more than Origins?
Nice critique
The first DLC was cool because it set up a good theme, the second was fucking weird but it was so good.
Luke, I really do hope you see this. There is the constant question (as discussed by gameranx) whether a large open world or moderately sized well lived in world is better.. they praise AC unity and curse Zelda Breath of the Wild and AC Origins..
I personally feel origins was perfect large and open with vast areas of nothingness and then city's and villages well lived in..
What are you thoughts on this? Would love a video about it!
Both Unity and Origins do it well in their own right, though Origins do side content definitely better than Unity. But all that aside, combine both visually and it will be phenomenally breathtaking.
Is there a complete "more money please" edition of this ass creed yet?
Regarding the contamination ac does of "real" history... Paul Veyne book " did greek believed their myths" explains that we are made of stories, our life is made of imagination, not reason. Reason is just a limit . And this is ver clear especially now that we are in imagination age where what we think can then represent and make come to life and hopefully will stay true as we reach intelligence age. Good video bro
I actually got the gold edition by mistake so the dlcs were fun to me :)
I've been debating with myself rather I wanted to buy dlc or not (I'm one of those people finicky/picky over buying additional content especially if it feels like it should have already been in the game). Most I've ever spent on dlc was 10 bucks and it was for an indy game. I'm mainly a stealth/story/exploratory player and while some fights are fun, am not really a fan of combat in these games, preferring a more stealth approach to missions. I know one of these is more combat heavy, so I wonder which one I would prefer.
shouldnt the field of reeds be what heaven is to christians and muslims?
if that correct, why is bayek encountering enemies in the field of reeds?
or am i not understanding something?
I watched this video till the end, because I love the game
I endorse using a higher difficulty, however if you are above level, level scaling makes Nefertiti very difficult. I had to turn it down for this fight. The others didn't seem to have the same scaling problem.
Hey Luke, have you played ni no kuni 2? Its a great game, my favorife of this year so far, and i think it would make a great critique
Does it change the way your gear looks automatically (arms, chestplate, hidden blade) cause I really don't like the new look I like the base game's classic egyptian gold style. I never got the season pass and now it's on sale for $10 so I was thinking of getting it.
*Aarrhhh.....arrrgggghhhh, no! No!*
Those words was stuck in my head through the entire game. Lol
Bayek of Siwa will kick ya butt
It's amazing game dlcs were fantastic too especially the underworld
14:50 - Tutankhamun was actually a rather unremarkable pharaoh in the history of ancient Egypt. The only reason he became so famous is due to the fact that the archaeologists that uncovered his tomb died a few years later, thus spawning the legend of the curse of Tutankhamun.
they even made a movie about that "curse" phenomenon.
I only heard the rich English businessman that financed the archeological expedition of Carter died from pneumonia or dust sickness when he visited Egypt to see the graveyard.
hence where this supposed "curse" comes from.
but yes, Tutankhamun was pretty unremarkable and died very young. inbreeding and sex without siblings is a hell of a thing.
Bonus for people who pre order… well I bought AC Origins 2 weeks ago, and 4 years after launch, i have full access to all the content deemed “exclusive for pre order”
kinda agree with you, but if the content is good, dlc doesn't upset me
Sorry I can't agree with your statement about the bosses. I played on hard difficulty and had to scale down for the last boss fight to normal difficulty, because the boss just had an unfair attack. It's the one you see around 28:00. I don't know what the difficutly was for you, but the boss did nearly exactly this damage on normal difficulty, while I was on max level and had a maxed out armor. This is just stupid. Not to mention that this move has a bad hitbox. If you try to evade, so that you are to the side of the boss, it still hits you (comparable to Sir Alonne in Dark Souls 2 while not being that problematic). It was really, really bad. I can't even imagine, what would have happened, if I had stayed on my original path (which was to be an assassin, not a fighter). This fight would have been undoable for my build, which is bad when the game tells you, that you can play however you want. So the argument "you have to approach the game intelligently" is just nonsense, since the designers didn't care how you approach the game. The boss can still nearly kill you with maxed out items and on normal difficulty. This is just stupid and I don't see how anyone can defend such a system.
I don't even want to go into the problems the story has in both DLCs (to be fair, the story was weak in the main game itself so I should have expected that). I stumbled across the video since it discusses the DLCs and not the main game on day 1. But I am surprised how they can be valued good with such huge flaws. But in the end, it is an opinion I guess. I just find it interesting that these flaws are not really mentioned or even said to be a good thing.
I get what you're saying when you posit that people are playing the game wrong couldnt it be argued that really the developers have designed it badly that it encourages people to play in a way which is "not optimal"
Thank you for the hippo warning, would have gotten extremely triggered without it! Anyways, Fallout 4 did a similar thing with their far harbor and nuka cola dlc:s!
Do you think they'll do the same with far cry 5? The reception on the first dlc has been pretty lackluster. One could hope they double down on the two remaining..
You would believe anyone lol
Tbh, I genuinely preferred Hidden Ones over Curse of Pharaohs.
CoP was waaaaay too long for my taste for a DLC, which wouldn’t be a problem. But it was also repetitive asf. I bought it only because it was on discount. If I had to pay full price for it…. I probably wouldn’t pay a full price for it. 😂
The Season Pass was a ripoff. You know it, I know it, everyone that isn't a shill know it. Weapon packs are not worth it
I enjoyed the dlcs but I wish they changed up the gameplay loop a bit more.
I personally prefer the Hidden Ones DLC over Curse of the Pharaohs, and I wouldn't recommend skipping it if you play these games for the Assassin and Templar conflict.
Best Review so far. I just finished the game dlc.
Hear me out, I just finished it and honestlty the dlc was good but to short. Ubisoft had a huge chance on making the story longer and involving more about the Hidden ones. Take for example they could start with making it more stable and secure for the hidden ones in the peninsula also Bayek should be able to send assassins to missions. Also there should be missions Olving recruiting. Everything Assassins Creed 2 offered and the previous should be put into the dlc.
The DlC now is more about Bayek helping and making it more secure for the organisation. But where is the content were you actually try to build up the organisation. You know, buying and upgrading an outpost etc. Also sending assassins on missions. More Campaign story about starting and upgrading different outpost in the city and in the Mountains. Also we need a character or two that had more in depth story. Also Amunet came back but we barely saw anything of her except of two missions.
I compare it to the Witcher series now since Ubisoft tries to build a game like that. The dlc's for witcher are huge with variuos in depth characters and it takes its time to tell a story. The Hidden ones is a good one but to short and they barely scrathed the Surface.
I hope we will see more of Bayek and the organisation, this for me was to short and plain. It should have been a deeper story with more functions on how to Control the organisation. Also put in some missions were you are not alone on killing someone. Where you and a small Group should kill someone or set traps etc.
That one thing I loved about Brotherhood, I wish the other games would have done. I love training up my assassin's and sending them on missions. With these later games having such heavy rpg elements I'm surprised Ubisoft didn't expand on that mechanic from Brotherhood.
Undead nightmare was one of the best dlc I have ever played!!!
You said they didn't make an excuse for when the Pharaohs were there. They did. Bayek says to both the plump witch lady and the goofy thief that he thinks all of the Pharaohs and the other worlds were just side effects of the Apple of Eden, or whatever they called it in this game, making him see these things that he didn't believe were real.
Except they were.
They're literally killing people. They're as real as you and me,at least in the way that matters.
Can the Apple ressurect the dead? Perhaps.
Theo Horus pack was the best set made so far, including the ones added in odyssey Imho
My fave AC,, great main character
Just bought this game the other day it’s amazing I also love ancient Egypt just like you I love it so far I haven’t played the hidden ones or curse of the pharaohs yet though thank you for this great review I’d love to play PS4 with you some time my gamer tag is n8dog5000 you should do a review on the discovery tour mode though
There is a reason no choose your own adventure books are among tge greatest books of all time.
I accidentally sold my knives of Tutankhamun :''''')))
Just as I had crafted them to my level.
Ouch
My condolences.
At least he won't have much of a reason to chase you around.
o pay 19.99 on walmart and i dint get the gold weapon and it was brand new it was seal
Origin's Season Pass content completely shat ALL OVER Far Cry 5's DLC season. I traded it FC5 in before the final DLC was even out.
Fuck Ubisoft it's gonna be a while before I buy another of their games
Good thing ac origins deluxe edition is 15 bucks now on ps store and the dlc's are 4 and 8 bucks. Just wait for a while and buy games on sale. Unless you don't mind paying full price of course.
Pls make the AC3 video!
Just got the season pass for £13.00 can’t be bad
Ancient writings...From the old kingdom
Thought the DLC was good for Ubisoft standards
33:50
Origins was one of the best games I have ever played - in 30 years of playing. The DLC, although good value, wasn't anywhere near as good. It focused heavily on combat instead of a mix of fighting and exploration.
We would like to announce, that we have abolished season pass!... No you have to buy each dlc individually! Yaaaaaaayyyyy!!!!
Instead of $40 for one DLC you wanted and one you were only okay with, wouldn't it have been better if you just bought Curse on its own and saved $20? Unless those Helix Credits and equipment packs made up the difference...
You essentially just pre-ordered DLC. There was no way in Hell that they hadn't already planned and begun work on the two expansions by the time the game went gold (hence them selling a season pass included with certain editions of the base game). There's no question of you "fronting them money" because the DLC was budgeted for before the base game had even been finished. Doing otherwise would be a boneheaded financial decision.
I'm aware that games like Prey and Horizon: Zero Dawn only had their DLC made after the game was shown to have an audience, but I'm certain that AC:O doesn't fall into that camp. The mere existence of a season pass is proof enough that Ubi had thought the DLC through and were going to put it out regardless of people buying the season pass beforehand, if that makes any sense.
I'm not sure that a season pass is a sound investment. It's never going to be out of stock (the only reason I'd ever pre-order anything physical) and there's no assurance that the promised content will even be any good...
In my opinion, it's better for customers to wait for the DLC to come out in it's entirety and then decide what parts of it are worth buying, if any. If all of it looks good, a season pass can nab you a small discount overall, but that's all the benefit I see in a season pass.
Edit: Corrected $15 to $20 for the cost of DLC
Didn't realise you had done the Critique for the DLC's... ABSOLUTELY GREAT content Luke. Going to replay Origins AGAIN... finished it once then did Odyssey... Now back to Origins again.
I got the season pass on sale for $16 lol
I love how there's a warning against violence towards hippos but not a warning to the previous clip towards actual humans.
I killed a lot of hippos
"Mystery," "Secrets," "Additional Bonus Level Content," "Unique Outfit" "Cool Sword"... Yeah I'm not falling for those catchy words this time around. Most of the cool content you had to pay for... and grinding the grind, to try and get the "better" cosmetic items, really wasn't worth all the time. Cosmetic items are cool and all, but really they are only cool looking, and that's just about it. There is no added bonus to attaining items, that really give the character no added special ability or perk whatsoever. The new rpg element... is all pretty much hype. Compare Diablo 2 or even Diablo 3 weapons, outfits, items, etc.... to the Assassin's Creed dropped wearable, usable items. By far there seems to be no comparison whatsoever. I think that Ubisoft is taking it easy, and slowly putting little by little elements into each new game, so too many drastic changes don't upset devoted Ubisoft players. The stealth element really was the key thing, that I really enjoy about the whole entire Assassin's Creed franchise. I just hope that button mashing fighting, skills, etc... don't ultimately replace "the actual assassin" in Assassin's Creed.
Curse Of The Pharaohs fully convinced me that Assasin's Creed would've been much better off as a fantasy series rather than science fiction. That doesn't mean it should be changed now, it's a bit too late for that to really make sense, but I believe it would've been better.
As an Egyptian myself and an avid reader of mythology, the amount of references to myths in this one kept hitting me in the face. Pharaoh's Shadows were akin to Ka,although their name would imply a closer relation to Sheut. The Anubis warriors were apparently inspired by an Old Kingdom myth of an Anubis army in the desert, threatening divine punishment, as well as the role of Anubis himself as protector and former ruler of the dead( Also Old Kingdom). Aten was an extension of Ra- Horakhty,original ruler of the pantheon before being subverted and merged with Amun. The Duat is an in between place,but in a different way. It's technically your road to the afterlife. Plenty get lost on it. The human headed birds are Ba,a soul's self given form.
I was disappointed we didn't get to explore the Pharaohs more. I wanted them as actual characters, not just boss fights. There really was a lot of potential story wise,especially with Isidora.
Was a bit too fantastical for me. No one is having chats in the duat 😂. And the whole pharoh coming back to life thing is laughable
The part when Bayek gets wrecked on acid and thinks he's fighting a giant snake was alright though.
Decent if it was any other game so let's keep it grounded people or come up with a new IP
I don't think its unfair to expect a game to take care of you having fun, its just that Ubisoft games suck at it. My favorite rpg ever (FF7) does that a lot (there are some elements of freedom, but most of what you do is pretty fixed).
About halfway through I stopped watching because at that point you weren't talking about the value of the season pass but about the historical accuracy it and how excited you were about the period. Which made it seem like you wouldn't be able to judge the value objectively anyway. You could have easily split this into two videos on different subjects. Also I am at the 18 minute mark and so far you really only said that season passes are common, they are usually made from content packs of varying sizes and that Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and Origins had similarly structured season passes. You could have said all of that in a much shorter span of time - you keep dragging on and on about the same piece of information when everyone already understood your point.
I think people took this franchise too serious to the point where they can’t have a imagination ... I like origins my fav since the 2nd installment