The sequel should be a P.I. game. This way it'll give the player more freedom with cases and side quests. L.A. Noire can't do side quest or act ivies because you are on the clock. If you are a private eye, you can do anything you want. Not only will it give more gameplay variety and freedom, the narrative will be opened up for more possibilities too.
@@AnkitPal-jj4zb Since Peterson pretty much sell the whole case to Earle and his cronies, which led to almost all of them being free, i highly doubt Kelso would keep his job as a DA investigator.
@4th Chairman The problem here is that there's a big lack of emphasis. You have a case going on, Newspaper flashbacks on characters you haven't seen yet, Cole's flashbacks, and then all of a sudden Cole just tails Elsa and sleeps with her. For such a relevant event in the plot, there's very little build up to it (no Cole's wife, no rising romance) so it just feels cheap and mingled with less important information. Take a movie like No Country For Old Men for example, for every ounce for subtlety that movie has it also emphasizes what's important, and that's why it's a masterpiece.
@@Ricardo7250 the flashbacks are the buildup. You see how cole is arrogant in the war and wants to stand out and how he does so in the department. And how it’s mentioned in cases how uncomfortable he is when being attracted to other people than his wife is mentioned. Then you see how reserved he is until he meets elsa who can understand him
@@purpleguy1115 Once again, lack of emphasis. There are lots of other characters and info mingled in these flashbacks. You can say the signs are conveyed but it's not effective storytelling
It is really breaking my heart, that to this day (Dezember 2017) there is no sequel of this amazing game. I really love this game and enjoyed every second of it. I hope, that in the future, Rockstar gets to a reason, and continue this beautiful series..... i will never lose this hope
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I love Cole Phelps, he is probably one of the most relatable protagonists I’ve ever played as. I played this game right after I played Mafia: definitive edition, and it’s amazing how the stories of people from both sides can be so compelling. I could totally see Cole and Tommy Angelo sitting down at a bar and chatting about police corruption.
I wish it had a more GTA/RDR based Free Roam. After a case, you can hang your hat after a long day of work and explore the city, go drinking, gamble, whatever.
@@MrDueltube That's fair but I just think that the free roam was not up to par with the story. The side cases could have been actual cases instead of short action sequences and there could have been more to do. I agree though the story completely makes up for it, I just wish that the free roam was more like it too
@@tommywiseau3976 That's fair but given the game went through development hell, I think it might have needed a more organized and possibly talented developer to deliver on that. Possibly even Rockstar themselves lending a bit of their expertise to Team Bondai. If a sequel is ever made I do hope that's one area that can see improvement,
I have a weird history with this game. First time I played it, I tried to like it but stopped because it was so slow and boring. Probably a year later, my friend gave me murdered:soul suspect. I really liked that game and after beating that game, I wanted to keep being a detective so I tried la noire again. Something just clicked and I fell in love with la noire. Played it straight for a few days and beat the game. I'm going to go back in some months and 100% the cases after I have forgotten the cases
I’d love a sequel to this game. Sure, some of the mechanics were clunky but the storytelling, the world building and the characters are all very well made!
The story was awful especially for the homicide desk, every guy you arrested for each case acted suspicious even though it turned out it was one guy that committed all the murders. And the arson desk was exactly the same (Guys you arrested acting suspicious even though it was one guy again that carried out the fires). This was plot contrivance in the extreme.
@@Bobsend that's actually fairly accurate. Most people don't know how to NOT look guilty, especially when they are nervous. Your fear of being wrongly pinned for a crime will override any loic you may have most of the time.
Here's is the best rulebook I was ever able to discern. The first 50 percent of the game is do their eyes dart and nothing else. The second half of the game you have to ignore their face bc now everything applies there. You need to think about the socio economic status of who you're talking to and make judgments about if they would lie based on the books cover.
I loved this game from top to bottom. From the characters to the feel of the gameplay. It feels like a movie or a Netflix series or even a novel series. Each desk a new novel making you read from the beginning-to understanding the ending
You really need to see LA Confidential. This game is an on the nose homage to that film. Your commentary would have really benefited from having seen that, because the LA LA Land comparison is moot with that in place.
Mr Mad Philosopher I agree except my only issue with LA Confidential was always that it was a bit too commercially minded. Like it has a fairly neat happy ending for this noir detective movie. It’s not like a noir comedy caper so the near ending doesn’t fit almost. LA Noire definitely takes hints but also takes inspiration from classic noir films and stuff like Chinatown in maintaining this dark, depressing element and a downer ending
I agree with the 'Mafia 3' critique. The audience are not morons, we want to feel like we are living in the time period, not get a sociology lecture on the side.
LA Noire felt like a hybrid of watching a movie and playing a game. I found it very relaxing and engaging at the same time. The more I accepted it as a movie that I had some influence on but was outside of and stopped thinking of myself as Cole, the more I enjoyed it.
When I played the first half I played in colour, but when I switched to black and white and treated it more as an interactive noir film than a traditional game I really started to understand and love it.
This game reignited my love for video games. Around 2012 i didn’t finish the games I played because I thought the golden aera of gaming is over. Sorry for my english btw.🤣. But then I got la noire. I‘l never forget how amazing it was to come home from work and instead of watching tv, I played 1 or 2 cases. It really was like playing my own awesome detective tv show. That’s why la noire is one of the best games I’ve ever played. I looooove it!
Good points, but one piece of constructive criticism: you repeat yourself quite a lot. I get the impression that you recorded much of this on the fly; I think it would help to have a general outline of the points you want to make so that you can make one and then move on.
41:45 As far as I know, Team Bondi failed because of really bad management and project-leadership. The manager was a complete tyrant and a sociopath which also hampered the development of L.A. Noir. So it all fell appart.
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A minor point: the U.S. wasn’t the only country not destroyed by WW2. None of the countries in the Americas were touched, and of those, Canada also fought in Europe.
Bought this game for £1 in CEX a couple of weeks ago (I kid you not), played it for several days straight- absolutely loved it. Great video analysis btw.
If I had to list reasons that I liked this game, I'd have to say 1: the music, both the original jazz score, and the period music played over the car radio as you cruise the streets of LA. 2: The huge open map of 1947's Los Angeles. 3: The cars. How cool is it to drive around in those great 40's cars. 4: The time period and setting. Post war Los Angeles. There's gangsters, and jazz clubs, and crooked cops and politicians, and all the things which make Chandler's Los Angeles such a great backdrop for his detective novels. 5: The story, which immerses you in your own film noir.
I just finished this game for the first time in 2022 and it honestly holds up pretty well. while I agree that some of the gameplay is mediocre, I am personally a player who enjoys the narrative more than the gameplay itself so this is right up my alley. As someone who played to try and succeed rather than trying to "lose" consistently it definitely felt more high stakes while playing which made it enjoyable.
L.A. Noire is definitely one of my favourite games of all time. For me, the only weak aspect is Cole's overarching story. I would have preferred him to remain more of a Columbo style character whose life beyond the cases is hinted at or largely left a mystery. I love the world building. I didn't need to be able to bowl or whatever other types of mini games people have suggested. I actually think that L.A. Noire's world is more immersive that most open world games because the open world is "just" as backdrop. I never felt the need to explore areas. When I was in a building talking to a suspect I just left after I finished - I really didn't feel the need explore everything. In games that encourage free roaming, I think you're more likely to realise that it's just a fairly shallow backdrop.
LA Noire 2 IDEAS! 1. NY Noire, mid 1980's in the NYPD, you investigate violent crimes in the Bronx and Brooklyn. 2. LA Noire 2, Early 1990's LAPD Involviing riots and big robberies 3. Chicago Bloodshed, Late 2010's Chicago, Gang/Drug unit on the south side
Essentially. The billing up until this games release is you're going to have to learn to interrogate suspects and read their faces and call them on lies. But as you start the game. It quickly becomes a game, you realize, of, do their eyes dart? It's like halfway through the game. The devs realized this was the one trick pony. And so they start to make people's eyes dart who are telling the truth. Which then destroys any semblance of a system at play which you could organically participate in.
Played thru 3 times. Once when it came out on PS3 (no DLC), then on my iMac in 2017, and just today finished it on Switch. Definitely one of my favourite narrative games and I'd kill for something else like it. LA Noire is the embodiment of something being more than the sum of its parts, and something that would benefit from the refinement a sequel would offer.
Great job man. I've barely heard anything about this game and will never actually play it without a remaster, but you can still keep me entertained for an hour. Your critiques/analysis of games has made my appreciation and awareness for nuisances and small details in games much greater. For that, I applaud and thank you
Luke - I take what your saying regarding not being lectured in games like this compared to mafia 3 but these games are just fundamentally different in tone and narrative choice. LA Noire is largely played through the eyes of Cole Phelps and takes a observer view on everything that occurs. Cole has very few controversial opinions throughout the game and the real meat of the game is era and the behaviour of everyone within it - a major reason why I like it. In contrast, the creators of Mafia 3 have chosen to take the perspective of the protagonist more heavily as major game element. The tone, achievements and even enemies of the game partially reflects obvious cultural motivation(s) of Lincoln, who is actually has mix of social justice and moral ‘grey anti-hero’ in the game. Basically, the two games differ because LaN seeks to focus on clearer law enforcement objectives in a specific time/era while M3 is already pitched by cultural setting and narrative linked to the main character. It wouldn’t make sense for M3 to take backseat observer view on racism like LaN because some of the wider motivations of the protagonist are linked to these elements and is not aimed at ultimately at solving cases. LaN could not be like M3 because giving Cole more opinion/moral greyness would add too much complexity. If LaN was more heavily based around Cole’s motivations (that would drive the narrative) would he be expected to consider a far wider range of solutions to that of just solving cases rewarded in the game- disrupting its mechanics and end goals. Anyway, thanks for great critique!
this is the first time i, as a european, feel like an american genuinely doesn't expect me to know all of these random things about the us. i really like the way you explained LA and approached the main issues back then, it felt like someone just telling a story rather than a teacher lecturing me on world history. ik this is such a ridiculous thing to be fond of but when most native english speakers don't even try to pronounce my name correctly let alone learn ANYTHING about my country and yet for some reason they expect me to go out of my way to remember all of these things about america,, yea. what i'm trying to say is the information you provided for us to put things into context was just right. i've been binging your videos in quarantine and i'm growing so fond of them aafhjhsjf
I need to see this game get a successor now that Rockstar has raised the bar for attention to detail as was in Red Dead Redemption 2. The possibilities are so rich.
I don't normally comment on videos, but I wanted to comment and just say that I love your videos. The articulation and serious note you take on the different games you review is refreshing.
I remember when I first bought this game on the Xbox 360 and came downstairs one day to find my mom of all people playing it. She loved it 10/10 mom approved.
I love this game! I don't live in the US, but LA is my favorite city. The game is simply aesthetically pleasing to me. I love the 30-40s time in LA, the buildings, outfits, hairstyles, jazz music, etc, I love them all. I've been visiting the attractions in the game. You can tell that the producer really loves the city and its history. LA noir is a classic game that you can play again and again.
One thing that's always astounded me about this game is everyone tried to act like the facial tech actually worked and you could play through the game reading poker faces if you were good. Not so. In an effort to make the gameplay something more than my eyes dart and I'm lying, they don't and I tell the truth. The devs tried to pull little gotchas. Which effectively makes the player pull hair in frustration and go get the walkthrough out.
You learn halfway through the game that the facial animation was a waste of a lot of money. All it was still able to achieve was a game of do their eyes dart. And then when the devs realized that's what it is. They change the rules and never give you the new ones. You go get a strategy guide so you don't get kicked from the force.
For those of you that haven't. It's the eye dart and they lie game. Then halfway in you feel the distinct moment where they felt the game was too easy and start having honest eye darting lawyers and stuff. And it's completely formula shattering. Just not in the right ways. In a let me pull up a guide way.
I'm my honest opinion. It wouldve been criticized for it. It wouldve lost review points for it. But they shouldve just kept it the eyes dart and they lie game so at least players could not use a guide and sort of feel detectivey.
If you like set piece games. Set very historically. Like assassins creed. This would be up your alley. They spent so much time on 1940s la. It's a treat to just drive around in. The detective part of the game fails. But it does have a good story. If you want a better detective game that actually follows logic and will make you think. I would recommend the Sherlock Holmes games from frog something studios. Very good detective games.
This is more like a gold story that let's you play simpleton detective for the first half. Then you need a guide to experience the rest of the story. While not at all feeling like a detective.
Played this game when I was way too young. I preordered and was hella hyped but got about 33% on the correct answers for the interview even after finding most the clues if not all for each case. As an adult I need to do another play through
Just wanted to throw it into the discussion, that while you may not outright fail cases based on poor interrogation there are a few cases in which it is possible to accuse the wrong suspect. You will still pass the case but your rating will be low and you'll get yelled at for being a bad detective. I think this is better than restarting the interrogation upon failure because it gives you a lasting feeling of failure. Whenever I convict the wrong person I always try harder in the following case to make sure I don't mess up. So the interrogation system isn't completely pointless.
I would almost argue that the game just needed to be really simple and if their eyes dart, they are lying everytime so that there is some cohesion to playing without a list of correct responses in front of you. Even if gameplay wouldve been that simple.
I'm currently playing through cases I haven't touched in years so they're kinda new. Its interesting to see the attitudes of the older cops towards suspects and perverts. For myself, I've spent uncountable hours driving around in old cars enjoying the songs on the radio. I managed to find someone here who had a collection of in game music which has been great also.
I believe the boys that made the getaway series took rockstar and take 2 for a ride on this game with the budget and underdelivered. This, in my opinion, is rockstar and take 2s star citizen.
Watched some of your reviews. Love your breakdowns of games. You can tell you actually take the time to PLAY a game and not experience the demo and come away to tell all. Subbed. Keep em coming.
Honestly, I subbed just from your critique on respecting the gamer's intellect and morality instead of force-feeding it too them, as you state Mafia III does.
The motion face capture tech was revolutionary at the time which was the first time it was used for LA Noire. But the tech didn't focus on the characters model and body movements which I understand this was before full body motion capture came about and was used in games like The Last Of Us and plenty of others.
Don't care if it's "outdated", as the youtuber says. It's in my top 5 of all time. Fun fact: the wife of Cole Phelps is the actor's real wife. She was facecaptured, so you can see about 20 copies of her walking around. And the only BIG complaint I have was the arson cases. Picking up 20 pieces of shit to find evidence...
This game changed my taste in music, men's fashion (although I'm not brave enough to go public about it!), architecture, cars, and strengthened my appreciation for painstaking attention to detail. Truly a watershed experience - not just a game.
One of my favorite games of all time, such a shame we never got a sequel. So much nostalgia from being 10 years old playing this on PS3. I’m now replaying the remastered version on Xbox Series S and it’s lovely. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
The ending actually left me with a really bad taste in my mouth. I had to come back to it a a year later - knowing what would happen at the end - and I was able to enjoy all the cases.
I was 14 when I first played this, my mom had second thoughts about me buying this, guy at GameStop it was a great game, took me 20 minutes to get the game bc of my age at the time, the contents needed approval. I got approved only bc I was familiar with rockstar and played GTA 5, guy’s response, “Damage Done!”
Being lectured is a big issue nowadays. I couldn't sit through half an hour of Da 5 Bloods. I thought I was being spoonfed black culture. Felt like Spike Lee didn't think white people know or could know anything about that. The Dialogue is so blatantly lecturing.
I havent played but like 5 or 6 hours of mafia 3, but is it possible that the prespectove of the character is why there's so much "preachy" dialouge? Like wouldn't black people back then, during the civil rights movement, constantly discuss how much racism sucks?
So unfortunate what happened with McNamara and just the entire development process, I can't really blame Rockstar for dropping Bondi afterward, but still if there is one game I want a sequel for, it's this.
This is probably my favourite Rockstar game now. It is quite a focused experience that has some genuinely excellent characters and a blending of a serious plot with elements of goofy and appropriate humour. The story is kinda why I like it as the gameplay is either cool, but not that interactive, or interactive but not that good. The gunplay is pretty underwhelming, the driving is fine, the melee is genuinely just not that good and the sleuthing is kinda fun, but too often not actually that difficult, however the story is great. I like how it kinda has an episodic feeling to it at the beginning, becoming more integrated as the game goes on, it tackles era appropriate themes really well and it is cliche but in a good way. The collectibles are also some of the best in any game, as the newspaper cuttings actually become more and more important as the game goes on. The main issues I have with the story are that some of the characters are just kinda rubbish. Stefan Bekowsky is so dull it hurts and Elsa Lichtmann is pretty meh as well. Jack Kelso is also imo a bit mixed and the way they do the tensions between him and Cole isn't really that impressive. The ending is really well done and symbolically vital and almost every case has a decent narrative to it. All of the sidekicks bar Bekowsky are amazing in different ways. Rusty Galloway is bumbling and a pure "bad cop" kinda character, Roy Earle is corrupt, shadey and witty and Herschel is crabby but for good reason whilst being a genuinely decent cop. The only issue with Cole really is that sometimes the responses seem a bit out of character. The bit in one of the early missions where he calls someone a left-wing parasite is imo kinda out of character and if it was to happen, should have occurred much later in the story as he became sucked into the immorality of policing. Also the twist during the homocide is really not that good and could have been done a bit better however I do think the battle with the guy was a cool concept if it made more use of the senses and the game actually had good shooting mechanics. It kinda feels like an adventure game in terms of what it shines at. This kinda epitomises what I like and dislike about Rockstar games as being kinda meh at best gameplay wise but with good characters, stories and world-building, something true of most of the GTA series, Red Dead, Bully and this, amongst others. This game however has the added benefit of not having a massive open world and being pretty structured, something which certainly improves the ability to tell stories in coherent ways. My main wishes if this game would be made again would be more consequence for going bad cop in terms of branching storylines, either less gunplay / melee or better gunplay / melee and a bit more difficulty to the cases. Otherwise though I love this game.
The Warriers and Maxpayne 3 have great combat they could do it. But i think for this game having more realstic combat is the Goal more story consequences would be great having random crime events and having a few long side quests like The Warriers had. I would love for them to bring back Agent which was stealth Cold war spy game.
This game is very enjoyable. Its a laid back, relaxing experience. Its a shame that Rockstar abandoned this style. I love period pieces that aren’t Medieval, Roman, the Future, or other typical stuff. I would love to see more stuff like this set in the tension of the 60’s, the roaring 20’s, the Great Depression. There are so many stories you could tell via the PI or police style of game.
I can sort of relate LA Noire to an Interactive Visual Novel. There are a few side objectives, but the main draw is the narrative. The narrative doesn't change regardless of your choices, but that's the point. LA Noire runs like a Noire Film. Having a beginning, middle and end. It's just interactive.
When this came out I remember thinking... “this is the best game for Emerson I’ve ever played”... Then came Red Dead and a few others. Great time to be gaming. Tons of surprises 2008-2012.
My absolute favorite game of all time as well. Not even close has anything else come. The hours one can waste, or enjoy, just roaming around exploring this highly detailed and expansive world is astounding. You can go down every alley and behind every house through the yards and even drive right into a swimming pool, trust me I would know :). As he pointed out though it is really the interviews and freedom you have to do it all however you wish that are my favorite elements. Well, it doesn't hurt that I LOVE the period and they so masterfully capture it and I always felt immersed completely into this time period as well as the place. The music ads a lot to it but making you find a rotary dial phone to call dispatch or use your cars radio for things like that is another way they help you experience life the way it used to be. I have to disagree slightly though about the driving mechanics as I definitely felt a big difference in the response and maneuverability of the different cars. Yeah one sedan might feel a lot like another but a sports car or a flat bed truck were massively different from a sedan or such. One of my favorite things to do, when in the mood for some GTA style destructive fun, was to get in a garbage truck and just plow through everything in town. Also even though maybe you couldn't completely fail, if you made some effort to play the game, I wouldn't know because I never felt any inclination to not really get into it. I always felt like I really was doing the job of this LAPD detective. I also found that it does make a great deal of difference in how things turn out if you do it right or better or just screw up or get experimental. You do get a rating on each case like a 3 out of 5 badges or whatever and it isn't easy to do it all right either. The game may be linear technically, but for me it NEVER felt that way. You can choose in what order you want to investigate things and when you choose to interview someone. This also means you may collect more evidence or talk to more people first which will effect your experience when you then talk to your suspect, for example. In short, I felt that what little flaws may be there, I think they are far less noticeable or influential on the experience for me than it was for you Luke. I would still have to give it at least a 4.9 out of 5. For anyone that this period or culture doesn't appeal to I suppose that would make quite a difference in their overall enjoyability.
If a sequel to this game ever happened I’d love to play as Cole’s children as adults and team up with his good partners to finish what he started. Or maybe even Rockstar would pull a Red Dead and go the prequel route so we play as Cole again but play through his time in the war and eventually up the the point when he becomes a beat cop
Just got this game now that the price has finally dropped. Having a really hard time getting into it. There really is no point in driving around. There's nothing to do. I try to pay attention to details but still find myself guessing during interrogations. Ultimately, I get most questions wrong but the story progresses nevertheless so there's no point in trying any harder. I know this has been said before countless times. I guess I'm in that group that simply doesn't "get it" but can see it's charm due to it's 1940's setting.
I’m just not watching this, but I think the description between Mafia 3 and LA Noires depictions of racism are not the same because narratively, racism is a part of the story of Mafia 3. The main character in Mafia 3 is a mixed raced veteran in the American south during the height of the civil rights movement, and that’s a important part of the story. LA Noire happens to take place in a time where racism was very prevalent, but it’s main characters are white, and it story isn’t about racism, so of course it’s not a focus.
My favorite part? I got list during one investigation and went to museum to swe actual Rubens and Van Dyck paintings. It was do fresh just to walk around and ser those. Its sad that some programmers put so much effort in stuff like that - stuff that can be easily missed
The way you explained Cole Phelps, being this vessel that you kinda posses instead of being him is what I was thing when I was playing and found out about, you know who, for the first time
Like Westerns, I feel like any Noire style movie, game, novel, has their own place as a unique and dynamic setting. Its rich and full of life and that's what I loved about this game. I remember I was going through a state of mental funk that I just couldn't shake. Then this game comes out and it was something I immersed myself into. I was blown away by the story and fell in love with L.A. Noire. I always recommend this game, among several others, to people looking for a story based games to dive into.
The sequel should be a P.I. game. This way it'll give the player more freedom with cases and side quests. L.A. Noire can't do side quest or act ivies because you are on the clock. If you are a private eye, you can do anything you want. Not only will it give more gameplay variety and freedom, the narrative will be opened up for more possibilities too.
A sequel with Jack Kelso going against Roy Earle, as a PI... would be cool
@@johnwotek3816 Kelso is a cop. He works for the DA's office
@@AnkitPal-jj4zb Since Peterson pretty much sell the whole case to Earle and his cronies, which led to almost all of them being free, i highly doubt Kelso would keep his job as a DA investigator.
@@galayeoman There is a lot of way to work around that, and, beside the homicide desk, LA noire isn't really that much about high profile murder.
That's not really how PIs work... but people are dumb and don't know this or can suspend their disbelief.
This game could easily be adapted into a 2-3 season TV show
Lorne R Wouldn’t that just be the most awesome thing ever?!
4-5 actually
@@GamingWithJumbo pls
Would the actors return for the series, though? That's what would matter to me!
They probably wouldn’t let it on without some censoring
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GET BACK IN THERE AND
R A I S E S O M E L U M P S
B O Y"
SHOW THAT CAIN SON
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Cole and his partners talk about him being married at times throughout the story. It’s mentioned often enough that you know he’s married.
@4th Chairman The problem here is that there's a big lack of emphasis. You have a case going on, Newspaper flashbacks on characters you haven't seen yet, Cole's flashbacks, and then all of a sudden Cole just tails Elsa and sleeps with her. For such a relevant event in the plot, there's very little build up to it (no Cole's wife, no rising romance) so it just feels cheap and mingled with less important information. Take a movie like No Country For Old Men for example, for every ounce for subtlety that movie has it also emphasizes what's important, and that's why it's a masterpiece.
@4th Chairman kiryu?
@@Ricardo7250 the flashbacks are the buildup. You see how cole is arrogant in the war and wants to stand out and how he does so in the department. And how it’s mentioned in cases how uncomfortable he is when being attracted to other people than his wife is mentioned. Then you see how reserved he is until he meets elsa who can understand him
@@purpleguy1115 Once again, lack of emphasis. There are lots of other characters and info mingled in these flashbacks. You can say the signs are conveyed but it's not effective storytelling
@@Ricardo7250 not even a scene of them arguing before the cheating
i didn't realize how many Mad Men actors were in this
LA Noire is such an amazing experience! Deserves to be made a sequel if not at least remastered. Amazing critique video
Bekim Maliqi remastered comes out on the 14th I think
It is really breaking my heart, that to this day (Dezember 2017) there is no sequel of this amazing game. I really love this game and enjoyed every second of it. I hope, that in the future, Rockstar gets to a reason, and continue this beautiful series..... i will never lose this hope
HELLO FROM THE FUTURE!
@ Bekim Maliqi - Just got a remastered version back in November last year. : )
@@moustache_to_go3743 there's a VR sequel.
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I love Cole Phelps, he is probably one of the most relatable protagonists I’ve ever played as. I played this game right after I played Mafia: definitive edition, and it’s amazing how the stories of people from both sides can be so compelling. I could totally see Cole and Tommy Angelo sitting down at a bar and chatting about police corruption.
I wish it had a more GTA/RDR based Free Roam. After a case, you can hang your hat after a long day of work and explore the city, go drinking, gamble, whatever.
Right? It was really missing that.
There are many games like that, LA Noire was far more unique than that. Sure wasn't perfect but the feel of it and story made up for it.
@@MrDueltube That's fair but I just think that the free roam was not up to par with the story. The side cases could have been actual cases instead of short action sequences and there could have been more to do. I agree though the story completely makes up for it, I just wish that the free roam was more like it too
@@tommywiseau3976 That's fair but given the game went through development hell, I think it might have needed a more organized and possibly talented developer to deliver on that. Possibly even Rockstar themselves lending a bit of their expertise to Team Bondai. If a sequel is ever made I do hope that's one area that can see improvement,
I have a weird history with this game. First time I played it, I tried to like it but stopped because it was so slow and boring.
Probably a year later, my friend gave me murdered:soul suspect. I really liked that game and after beating that game, I wanted to keep being a detective so I tried la noire again. Something just clicked and I fell in love with la noire. Played it straight for a few days and beat the game.
I'm going to go back in some months and 100% the cases after I have forgotten the cases
I’d love a sequel to this game. Sure, some of the mechanics were clunky but the storytelling, the world building and the characters are all very well made!
It may be a bit hard to come up with a sequel due to the ending.
The story was awful especially for the homicide desk, every guy you arrested for each case acted suspicious even though it turned out it was one guy that committed all the murders. And the arson desk was exactly the same (Guys you arrested acting suspicious even though it was one guy again that carried out the fires). This was plot contrivance in the extreme.
@@Bobsend that's actually fairly accurate. Most people don't know how to NOT look guilty, especially when they are nervous. Your fear of being wrongly pinned for a crime will override any loic you may have most of the time.
Here's is the best rulebook I was ever able to discern. The first 50 percent of the game is do their eyes dart and nothing else. The second half of the game you have to ignore their face bc now everything applies there. You need to think about the socio economic status of who you're talking to and make judgments about if they would lie based on the books cover.
Loved this game, wish someone would release the "lost" burglary desk cases as a DLC - Not likely, though :(
I don't think they ever filmed the cases.
@@johncallahan2490 The skipper DOES mention him coming from burglary, so it was still meant to be included when filmimg began
Simply put, I have never played a game quite like LA Noire. It was such a special experience. I
One of the rare games I actually finished.
*Laughs in very limited games to finish*
@@randomnerd3402 Laughs in owns over 1000 games
@@randomnerd3402 **Laughs in why do I keep buying more games when I haven’t even finished the games I have?**
I loved this game from top to bottom. From the characters to the feel of the gameplay. It feels like a movie or a Netflix series or even a novel series. Each desk a new novel making you read from the beginning-to understanding the ending
You really need to see LA Confidential. This game is an on the nose homage to that film. Your commentary would have really benefited from having seen that, because the LA LA Land comparison is moot with that in place.
I didn't like the game but loved LA Confidential that's how I will always view Kevin spacey
@@bdog8451 why not? if you don’t mind me asking
Mr Mad Philosopher I agree except my only issue with LA Confidential was always that it was a bit too commercially minded. Like it has a fairly neat happy ending for this noir detective movie. It’s not like a noir comedy caper so the near ending doesn’t fit almost. LA Noire definitely takes hints but also takes inspiration from classic noir films and stuff like Chinatown in maintaining this dark, depressing element and a downer ending
@@YungM.D.
I completely agree about LA confidential ending. Too happy for a noire themed movie.
@@YungM.D. L.A noire takes the historical and plot elements from LA Confidential, but the feeling and overall ambientation comes from Chinatown
I don’t care what the critics say. This is my all time favorite game
I agree with the 'Mafia 3' critique. The audience are not morons, we want to feel like we are living in the time period, not get a sociology lecture on the side.
That music at the very end got me so nostalgic.
Last of Us 2: Ellie Noir
This is gold
@@YourFatherSen Ellie, Badge 1247
Huh, I guess I'm weird for an American, when I think of LA I think "Shit hole", not "Olympia".
Not at all uncommon for us Americans. LA used to be very different though.
@@WhoWouldWantThisName That's to bad :/
Back then it was 90 percent white, a beautifull city.
LA Noire felt like a hybrid of watching a movie and playing a game. I found it very relaxing and engaging at the same time. The more I accepted it as a movie that I had some influence on but was outside of and stopped thinking of myself as Cole, the more I enjoyed it.
When I played the first half I played in colour, but when I switched to black and white and treated it more as an interactive noir film than a traditional game I really started to understand and love it.
This game reignited my love for video games. Around 2012 i didn’t finish the games I played because I thought the golden aera of gaming is over. Sorry for my english btw.🤣. But then I got la noire. I‘l never forget how amazing it was to come home from work and instead of watching tv, I played 1 or 2 cases. It really was like playing my own awesome detective tv show. That’s why la noire is one of the best games I’ve ever played. I looooove it!
Good points, but one piece of constructive criticism: you repeat yourself quite a lot. I get the impression that you recorded much of this on the fly; I think it would help to have a general outline of the points you want to make so that you can make one and then move on.
I noticed that too. Had he not done so these videos would be half as long.
I was going to say, he's really redundant some times. I think if he worked on that his videos could really take off.
He becomes really boring to listen to
The opening is exactly how I feel about the game. Best game I have ever played.
41:45 As far as I know, Team Bondi failed because of really bad management and project-leadership. The manager was a complete tyrant and a sociopath which also hampered the development of L.A. Noir. So it all fell appart.
Sorry I’m 4 years late, but I genuinely enjoyed your analysis & still look at LA Noire very fondly all these years later.
Dude, I love your content. It's unique and different and what I think I like the most is the length of each of your videos which make them memorable and fun to watch. Keep at it cause there's always someone who's gonna have a smile on his face when he sees a new video of yours.
A minor point: the U.S. wasn’t the only country not destroyed by WW2. None of the countries in the Americas were touched, and of those, Canada also fought in Europe.
Bought this game for £1 in CEX a couple of weeks ago (I kid you not), played it for several days straight- absolutely loved it. Great video analysis btw.
If I had to list reasons that I liked this game, I'd have to say 1: the music, both the original jazz score, and the period music played over the car radio as you cruise the streets of LA. 2: The huge open map of 1947's Los Angeles. 3: The cars. How cool is it to drive around in those great 40's cars. 4: The time period and setting. Post war Los Angeles. There's gangsters, and jazz clubs, and crooked cops and politicians, and all the things which make Chandler's Los Angeles such a great backdrop for his detective novels. 5: The story, which immerses you in your own film noir.
A small nitpick if I may: "Bondi" is pronounced bon-dye.
Like bandai namco?
@@whatdoesthisthingdo no
@MonoChronicle yes
Maybe
I just finished this game for the first time in 2022 and it honestly holds up pretty well. while I agree that some of the gameplay is mediocre, I am personally a player who enjoys the narrative more than the gameplay itself so this is right up my alley. As someone who played to try and succeed rather than trying to "lose" consistently it definitely felt more high stakes while playing which made it enjoyable.
L.A. Noire is definitely one of my favourite games of all time. For me, the only weak aspect is Cole's overarching story. I would have preferred him to remain more of a Columbo style character whose life beyond the cases is hinted at or largely left a mystery. I love the world building. I didn't need to be able to bowl or whatever other types of mini games people have suggested. I actually think that L.A. Noire's world is more immersive that most open world games because the open world is "just" as backdrop. I never felt the need to explore areas. When I was in a building talking to a suspect I just left after I finished - I really didn't feel the need explore everything. In games that encourage free roaming, I think you're more likely to realise that it's just a fairly shallow backdrop.
LA Noire 2 IDEAS!
1. NY Noire, mid 1980's in the NYPD, you investigate violent crimes in the Bronx and Brooklyn.
2. LA Noire 2, Early 1990's LAPD Involviing riots and big robberies
3. Chicago Bloodshed, Late 2010's Chicago, Gang/Drug unit on the south side
Essentially. The billing up until this games release is you're going to have to learn to interrogate suspects and read their faces and call them on lies. But as you start the game. It quickly becomes a game, you realize, of, do their eyes dart? It's like halfway through the game. The devs realized this was the one trick pony. And so they start to make people's eyes dart who are telling the truth. Which then destroys any semblance of a system at play which you could organically participate in.
I love how you mentioned Monk and Psych, my two favorite shows.
Played thru 3 times. Once when it came out on PS3 (no DLC), then on my iMac in 2017, and just today finished it on Switch. Definitely one of my favourite narrative games and I'd kill for something else like it. LA Noire is the embodiment of something being more than the sum of its parts, and something that would benefit from the refinement a sequel would offer.
Critique on mafia 2
^This.
I want to see if the story is really a masterpiece.
It is, no doubt about it. Best 3rd person open world shooter imo.
That would be awesome
Holy shit please. Easily in my top 3 favourite games ever.
@@miraj6272 then you should play it lol
Great job man. I've barely heard anything about this game and will never actually play it without a remaster, but you can still keep me entertained for an hour. Your critiques/analysis of games has made my appreciation and awareness for nuisances and small details in games much greater. For that, I applaud and thank you
+Will Cruikshank thank you so much! Hopefully you get the chance to play it someday :)
Will Cruikshank
It still looks good and there might be enb mods just play it
Will Cruikshank Renastered Version is out now, even a vr version
Luke - I take what your saying regarding not being lectured in games like this compared to mafia 3 but these games are just fundamentally different in tone and narrative choice. LA Noire is largely played through the eyes of Cole Phelps and takes a observer view on everything that occurs. Cole has very few controversial opinions throughout the game and the real meat of the game is era and the behaviour of everyone within it - a major reason why I like it. In contrast, the creators of Mafia 3 have chosen to take the perspective of the protagonist more heavily as major game element. The tone, achievements and even enemies of the game partially reflects obvious cultural motivation(s) of Lincoln, who is actually has mix of social justice and moral ‘grey anti-hero’ in the game. Basically, the two games differ because LaN seeks to focus on clearer law enforcement objectives in a specific time/era while M3 is already pitched by cultural setting and narrative linked to the main character. It wouldn’t make sense for M3 to take backseat observer view on racism like LaN because some of the wider motivations of the protagonist are linked to these elements and is not aimed at ultimately at solving cases. LaN could not be like M3 because giving Cole more opinion/moral greyness would add too much complexity. If LaN was more heavily based around Cole’s motivations (that would drive the narrative) would he be expected to consider a far wider range of solutions to that of just solving cases rewarded in the game- disrupting its mechanics and end goals. Anyway, thanks for great critique!
I thought I was going crazy, my thoughts exactly
I didn’t think the shooting and driving were bad but nothing that amazing.
I find your opinions and experiences very similar to my own. One of my favorite games as well, for all the same reasons.
Pp
I only planned to watch the Narrative section but here I am at an hour into this.
Very good video.
this is the first time i, as a european, feel like an american genuinely doesn't expect me to know all of these random things about the us. i really like the way you explained LA and approached the main issues back then, it felt like someone just telling a story rather than a teacher lecturing me on world history. ik this is such a ridiculous thing to be fond of but when most native english speakers don't even try to pronounce my name correctly let alone learn ANYTHING about my country and yet for some reason they expect me to go out of my way to remember all of these things about america,, yea. what i'm trying to say is the information you provided for us to put things into context was just right. i've been binging your videos in quarantine and i'm growing so fond of them aafhjhsjf
I played this a few months back at last. Fucking stellar game despite the flaws.
I need to see this game get a successor now that Rockstar has raised the bar for attention to detail as was in Red Dead Redemption 2. The possibilities are so rich.
I don't normally comment on videos, but I wanted to comment and just say that I love your videos. The articulation and serious note you take on the different games you review is refreshing.
I like your style dude! I learned a lot from your thoughts as someone that isn't very well versed in games. Subscribed now!
this video takes such a weird turn a bit before the halfway point 😭😭 like that was completely out of left field lmao
I remember when I first bought this game on the Xbox 360 and came downstairs one day to find my mom of all people playing it. She loved it 10/10 mom approved.
I love this game! I don't live in the US, but LA is my favorite city. The game is simply aesthetically pleasing to me. I love the 30-40s time in LA, the buildings, outfits, hairstyles, jazz music, etc, I love them all. I've been visiting the attractions in the game. You can tell that the producer really loves the city and its history. LA noir is a classic game that you can play again and again.
I played this game back in 2011 when I was 15 years old, I just bought it the other day and it’s still as beautiful as the day I met it.
One thing that's always astounded me about this game is everyone tried to act like the facial tech actually worked and you could play through the game reading poker faces if you were good. Not so. In an effort to make the gameplay something more than my eyes dart and I'm lying, they don't and I tell the truth. The devs tried to pull little gotchas. Which effectively makes the player pull hair in frustration and go get the walkthrough out.
You learn halfway through the game that the facial animation was a waste of a lot of money. All it was still able to achieve was a game of do their eyes dart. And then when the devs realized that's what it is. They change the rules and never give you the new ones. You go get a strategy guide so you don't get kicked from the force.
Thanks for the like. Someone besides me made it to the last half of la noire and figured out I should've been a game reviewer in another life.
For those of you that haven't. It's the eye dart and they lie game. Then halfway in you feel the distinct moment where they felt the game was too easy and start having honest eye darting lawyers and stuff. And it's completely formula shattering. Just not in the right ways. In a let me pull up a guide way.
I'm my honest opinion. It wouldve been criticized for it. It wouldve lost review points for it. But they shouldve just kept it the eyes dart and they lie game so at least players could not use a guide and sort of feel detectivey.
If you like set piece games. Set very historically. Like assassins creed. This would be up your alley. They spent so much time on 1940s la. It's a treat to just drive around in. The detective part of the game fails. But it does have a good story. If you want a better detective game that actually follows logic and will make you think. I would recommend the Sherlock Holmes games from frog something studios. Very good detective games.
This is more like a gold story that let's you play simpleton detective for the first half. Then you need a guide to experience the rest of the story. While not at all feeling like a detective.
love these game critiques man keep them going !
Played this game when I was way too young. I preordered and was hella hyped but got about 33% on the correct answers for the interview even after finding most the clues if not all for each case. As an adult I need to do another play through
Just wanted to throw it into the discussion, that while you may not outright fail cases based on poor interrogation there are a few cases in which it is possible to accuse the wrong suspect. You will still pass the case but your rating will be low and you'll get yelled at for being a bad detective. I think this is better than restarting the interrogation upon failure because it gives you a lasting feeling of failure. Whenever I convict the wrong person I always try harder in the following case to make sure I don't mess up. So the interrogation system isn't completely pointless.
Your videos are awesome, keep up with the good work
I would almost argue that the game just needed to be really simple and if their eyes dart, they are lying everytime so that there is some cohesion to playing without a list of correct responses in front of you. Even if gameplay wouldve been that simple.
I'm currently playing through cases I haven't touched in years so they're kinda new. Its interesting to see the attitudes of the older cops towards suspects and perverts. For myself, I've spent uncountable hours driving around in old cars enjoying the songs on the radio. I managed to find someone here who had a collection of in game music which has been great also.
I absolutely love the setting and time placing. The narrative is brutally good for me
I believe the boys that made the getaway series took rockstar and take 2 for a ride on this game with the budget and underdelivered. This, in my opinion, is rockstar and take 2s star citizen.
A truly stunning game, dripping in atmosphere and an ending to remember
Watched some of your reviews. Love your breakdowns of games. You can tell you actually take the time to PLAY a game and not experience the demo and come away to tell all. Subbed. Keep em coming.
Honestly, I subbed just from your critique on respecting the gamer's intellect and morality instead of force-feeding it too them, as you state Mafia III does.
1:15 Smooth jazz playing in the background, soothing voiceover... DRIVING LIKE A MADMAN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD ALMOST CRASHING TWICE
I love your critiques, keep it up!
I feel this way about Sleeping Dogs
Sleeping Dogs and this are among some of my favourite games.
The motion face capture tech was revolutionary at the time which was the first time it was used for LA Noire. But the tech didn't focus on the characters model and body movements which I understand this was before full body motion capture came about and was used in games like The Last Of Us and plenty of others.
I need a new york noire where you investigate the mob and gotta deal with corrupt cops that shit'd be fire
Don't care if it's "outdated", as the youtuber says. It's in my top 5 of all time. Fun fact: the wife of Cole Phelps is the actor's real wife. She was facecaptured, so you can see about 20 copies of her walking around. And the only BIG complaint I have was the arson cases. Picking up 20 pieces of shit to find evidence...
This game changed my taste in music, men's fashion (although I'm not brave enough to go public about it!), architecture, cars, and strengthened my appreciation for painstaking attention to detail. Truly a watershed experience - not just a game.
How did it change your fashion?
The fashion got me too, I have incorporated some elements (sport coats are your friend) and have received lots of praise.
One of my favorite games of all time, such a shame we never got a sequel. So much nostalgia from being 10 years old playing this on PS3. I’m now replaying the remastered version on Xbox Series S and it’s lovely. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
a critique with 10 hours of footage lost and no spoilers = not ultimate
My only problem with the game is the ending
I wish it was a bit better
The ending actually left me with a really bad taste in my mouth. I had to come back to it a a year later - knowing what would happen at the end - and I was able to enjoy all the cases.
I was 14 when I first played this, my mom had second thoughts about me buying this, guy at GameStop it was a great game, took me 20 minutes to get the game bc of my age at the time, the contents needed approval. I got approved only bc I was familiar with rockstar and played GTA 5, guy’s response, “Damage Done!”
Loved the atmosphere so much in LA Noire.True masterpiece. I felt almost like i was Cole Phelps in my past life.
Being lectured is a big issue nowadays. I couldn't sit through half an hour of Da 5 Bloods. I thought I was being spoonfed black culture. Felt like Spike Lee didn't think white people know or could know anything about that. The Dialogue is so blatantly lecturing.
I havent played but like 5 or 6 hours of mafia 3, but is it possible that the prespectove of the character is why there's so much "preachy" dialouge? Like wouldn't black people back then, during the civil rights movement, constantly discuss how much racism sucks?
So unfortunate what happened with McNamara and just the entire development process, I can't really blame Rockstar for dropping Bondi afterward, but still if there is one game I want a sequel for, it's this.
This is probably my favourite Rockstar game now. It is quite a focused experience that has some genuinely excellent characters and a blending of a serious plot with elements of goofy and appropriate humour. The story is kinda why I like it as the gameplay is either cool, but not that interactive, or interactive but not that good. The gunplay is pretty underwhelming, the driving is fine, the melee is genuinely just not that good and the sleuthing is kinda fun, but too often not actually that difficult, however the story is great.
I like how it kinda has an episodic feeling to it at the beginning, becoming more integrated as the game goes on, it tackles era appropriate themes really well and it is cliche but in a good way. The collectibles are also some of the best in any game, as the newspaper cuttings actually become more and more important as the game goes on.
The main issues I have with the story are that some of the characters are just kinda rubbish. Stefan Bekowsky is so dull it hurts and Elsa Lichtmann is pretty meh as well. Jack Kelso is also imo a bit mixed and the way they do the tensions between him and Cole isn't really that impressive. The ending is really well done and symbolically vital and almost every case has a decent narrative to it. All of the sidekicks bar Bekowsky are amazing in different ways. Rusty Galloway is bumbling and a pure "bad cop" kinda character, Roy Earle is corrupt, shadey and witty and Herschel is crabby but for good reason whilst being a genuinely decent cop. The only issue with Cole really is that sometimes the responses seem a bit out of character. The bit in one of the early missions where he calls someone a left-wing parasite is imo kinda out of character and if it was to happen, should have occurred much later in the story as he became sucked into the immorality of policing. Also the twist during the homocide is really not that good and could have been done a bit better however I do think the battle with the guy was a cool concept if it made more use of the senses and the game actually had good shooting mechanics.
It kinda feels like an adventure game in terms of what it shines at.
This kinda epitomises what I like and dislike about Rockstar games as being kinda meh at best gameplay wise but with good characters, stories and world-building, something true of most of the GTA series, Red Dead, Bully and this, amongst others. This game however has the added benefit of not having a massive open world and being pretty structured, something which certainly improves the ability to tell stories in coherent ways.
My main wishes if this game would be made again would be more consequence for going bad cop in terms of branching storylines, either less gunplay / melee or better gunplay / melee and a bit more difficulty to the cases. Otherwise though I love this game.
The Warriers and Maxpayne 3 have great combat they could do it. But i think for this game having more realstic combat is the Goal more story consequences would be great having random crime events and having a few long side quests like The Warriers had. I would love for them to bring back Agent which was stealth Cold war spy game.
This game is very enjoyable. Its a laid back, relaxing experience. Its a shame that Rockstar abandoned this style. I love period pieces that aren’t Medieval, Roman, the Future, or other typical stuff. I would love to see more stuff like this set in the tension of the 60’s, the roaring 20’s, the Great Depression. There are so many stories you could tell via the PI or police style of game.
Technically Lucas, Canada had literally nothing destroyed during WW2.
The United States did suffer some damage, like Pearl Harbor for example.
I can sort of relate LA Noire to an Interactive Visual Novel.
There are a few side objectives, but the main draw is the narrative.
The narrative doesn't change regardless of your choices, but that's the point. LA Noire runs like a Noire Film. Having a beginning, middle and end. It's just interactive.
There needs to be a number 2 of this but more action packed and more crimes to hit it was great tbh
When this came out I remember thinking... “this is the best game for Emerson I’ve ever played”... Then came Red Dead and a few others. Great time to be gaming. Tons of surprises 2008-2012.
Noyzi Neighborz Red Dead came out before tho. Lol
@@Cj-xt6tv perhaps he played la noire first.
My absolute favorite game of all time as well. Not even close has anything else come. The hours one can waste, or enjoy, just roaming around exploring this highly detailed and expansive world is astounding. You can go down every alley and behind every house through the yards and even drive right into a swimming pool, trust me I would know :). As he pointed out though it is really the interviews and freedom you have to do it all however you wish that are my favorite elements. Well, it doesn't hurt that I LOVE the period and they so masterfully capture it and I always felt immersed completely into this time period as well as the place. The music ads a lot to it but making you find a rotary dial phone to call dispatch or use your cars radio for things like that is another way they help you experience life the way it used to be.
I have to disagree slightly though about the driving mechanics as I definitely felt a big difference in the response and maneuverability of the different cars. Yeah one sedan might feel a lot like another but a sports car or a flat bed truck were massively different from a sedan or such. One of my favorite things to do, when in the mood for some GTA style destructive fun, was to get in a garbage truck and just plow through everything in town. Also even though maybe you couldn't completely fail, if you made some effort to play the game, I wouldn't know because I never felt any inclination to not really get into it. I always felt like I really was doing the job of this LAPD detective. I also found that it does make a great deal of difference in how things turn out if you do it right or better or just screw up or get experimental. You do get a rating on each case like a 3 out of 5 badges or whatever and it isn't easy to do it all right either. The game may be linear technically, but for me it NEVER felt that way. You can choose in what order you want to investigate things and when you choose to interview someone. This also means you may collect more evidence or talk to more people first which will effect your experience when you then talk to your suspect, for example. In short, I felt that what little flaws may be there, I think they are far less noticeable or influential on the experience for me than it was for you Luke. I would still have to give it at least a 4.9 out of 5. For anyone that this period or culture doesn't appeal to I suppose that would make quite a difference in their overall enjoyability.
Critique on Fallout New Vegas perhaps? great video :)
If a sequel to this game ever happened I’d love to play as Cole’s children as adults and team up with his good partners to finish what he started. Or maybe even Rockstar would pull a Red Dead and go the prequel route so we play as Cole again but play through his time in the war and eventually up the the point when he becomes a beat cop
Great critique. I remember playing this game years ago on the Xbox and decided to pick this up for $20 on the PS4.
Just got this game now that the price has finally dropped. Having a really hard time getting into it. There really is no point in driving around. There's nothing to do.
I try to pay attention to details but still find myself guessing during interrogations. Ultimately, I get most questions wrong but the story progresses nevertheless so there's no point in trying any harder. I know this has been said before countless times. I guess I'm in that group that simply doesn't "get it" but can see it's charm due to it's 1940's setting.
I’m just not watching this, but I think the description between Mafia 3 and LA Noires depictions of racism are not the same because narratively, racism is a part of the story of Mafia 3. The main character in Mafia 3 is a mixed raced veteran in the American south during the height of the civil rights movement, and that’s a important part of the story. LA Noire happens to take place in a time where racism was very prevalent, but it’s main characters are white, and it story isn’t about racism, so of course it’s not a focus.
This was a masterpiece of a game. Just wished they fleshed out Cole's family life better.
Top 3 favorite game for me! Wish there was a sequel!
My favorite part? I got list during one investigation and went to museum to swe actual Rubens and Van Dyck paintings. It was do fresh just to walk around and ser those. Its sad that some programmers put so much effort in stuff like that - stuff that can be easily missed
The way you explained Cole Phelps, being this vessel that you kinda posses instead of being him is what I was thing when I was playing and found out about, you know who, for the first time
Like Westerns, I feel like any Noire style movie, game, novel, has their own place as a unique and dynamic setting. Its rich and full of life and that's what I loved about this game. I remember I was going through a state of mental funk that I just couldn't shake. Then this game comes out and it was something I immersed myself into. I was blown away by the story and fell in love with L.A. Noire. I always recommend this game, among several others, to people looking for a story based games to dive into.