Sumayah is SO underrated! She doesn't speak as much as Layinka and Aliyah. But, whenever she does say something, her statements leave you pondering for hours. Ma'Sha'Allāh. May Allah preserve her 'ilm.
As a new Muslima your talks have been such blessings to me subhanallah. It is challenging sometimes to get information that is not culturally charged so I seek the truth that is in Islam and I thank you for sharing that and only that. May Allah bless you sisters
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Salam, In fact I am a man and I am muslim . Certainly I appreciate your beautiful topics and I have watched most of your debates. Even if I live in Senegal West Africa, I take time to follow you because the way you are doing things is correct and professional. God bless you muslim sisters!!!
To all the sisters and brothers who will read my comment, one thing I tell all is to ensure you have scripture to make your point as a mark of power to establish all evidence as Allah is the and with the Truth. to say so much with no evidence and making people ponder is just like the male preachers I have faced. To say one thing is that you, I, and anyone or anything especially something that is living to be classed as life is a product of Allah. Therefore we must acknowledge this as we know every soul will answer for itself and good or bad print that we leave behind that has an effect on the course of time will be held against us on the destination of judgement, be very careful as Mohammed pbuh stopped anyone making any hieroglyphics as people will make idols and worship this as they have done and still do. There are tracers in the Hindhu's collection and Greek's history that are linked to the Quran and to what Mohammed said. I fear to be a father as I don't want a son to be influenced by the leading and the men out there in the Islamic world and I have learned and still do at a slow pace, but I fear far more to have a daughter, as she will see a man (father) and naturally be influenced by the women, I have no wife never been with or close to a woman as I fear 'The' everything after death and Believe in what is in the Quran and Mohammed thesis pbuh. We need to look at the chemistry of the brain and the inner space of the body. The brain alone, the central point of mass processing is why I surrendered to the One that described Itself as Irrasitable and told us to look at our food. The elements of 'Product'are the periodic table and all we consume alone comes from there and all we use can be broken down to the rawest form and located in there also mutated to be something else as its just ingredients. Food has its role and impact on the body as we know but nobody talks of the impact on the brain, ADHD is due to pathogens disruption in the brain where receptors are not receiving or not able to consume, or not formed, but likely due to the consumption of food as reaction and the degeneration of the body solely due to the hgh production and the main hormone as root base. there is so much to learn as Alla told us "Save Yourself from Yourself" also "stinginess of the Soul". in Life as humans we either are the problem or become the problem, is that not why we greet in the Islamic way. The second chapter in the Quran is very clear about a tribe or being classed as a nation of people that can be found in the Hindhu and Greek collections. And we all know the Quran is not in the correct order it came in but it has been put together with immense consideration as the first is the glory of the Maker, second, the people to be cautious of and they were favored by Allah the third 'The Woman'. those that read don't be afraid to ask me why I have entered the above and what else I know as I am just like you learning and I fear the One that made Time a destination as without it I can not ever meet anyone at any point such as Tuesday 9am 24th may 2022 (its not the Islamic calendar)
Many times a woman suppresses other woman. Like a mother in law does injustice to her own daughter in law. Also when a woman knowingly flirts with a married man. Causing harm in the marriage.There are many examples.
@@dangersofsecretmarriagesan9330 There is no reference to "karma" in any Islamic texts, it does not come from Islam. Yes Allah (swt) does hold all human beings to account for their deeds, some face punishment for misdeeds or blessings for good they did or are taught a lesson in this life and some are punished in the next, but there is no "karma" in Islam.
FINALLY. Honestly I could cry. Cry that I found this channel, it is much needed for the muslim woman AND men to watch. I am so sick of the second a muslimah speaks about something she is quickly labelled a feminist or progressivist. We need more muslimah's talking in open discussions like this.
@@jahanghir528 obviously.. yes . These sisters are not feminists . I don’t like sisters who say they feminists or brothers who say they red pill . Neither are compatible with Islam .
JazakAllah sisters. I am a father of two amazing little girls and watching your show helps me tremendously to better myself. Also hopefully a better husband.
@@dangersofsecretmarriagesan9330 what? I am a Muslim man and plenty of men in my family happily married with one woman. Also know few muslim and non-muslim men cheating on their one wife for years.
@@dangersofsecretmarriagesan9330 I am certain that you know a lot more than me on a lot of issues. I can only speak of my personal knowledge and lived experiences. We all humans have our challenges. Most people in my life are good people.
I see this spiritual shaming within Christianity too. Honestly speaking, as a young girl, I was almost definitely a perpetrator of such too (we really thank God for growth). Thanks for this honest conversation girls 💕
Great topic ladies! I grew up quite isolated from wider Muslim (and even Somali community). This had many shortcomings but I am always grateful for the foundational years and Islamic values my beloved father brought us up in ❤️. I never was made to feel lesser in any way as a woman, we learnt about inspirational men and women and took them as role model (my father was inspired by many righteous and change-making men and women). We were brought up on the Quran and Seerah- with a strong love for RasoulAllah s.a.w and the companions. Dad focused on our purpose and didn't differentiated between his sons and daughters where there needn't be. One example- we all observed hijab from a young age and dad emphasised and called all of us out on our hijab (physical and otherwise) equally. I always felt I could ask anything, I never felt bad about any aspect of my womanhood (including my sexuality as a woman). Of course, dad didn't discuss certain things in-depth with us but it was the natural conclusion we all came to as young adults due to the way he brought us up. Alhumdulliah. In my later teen years, I mixed more with the wider Muslim community (and went to an Islamic highschool). Horrible experience. The amount of twisted practises and beliefs really messed me over. Particularly when it came to the treatment of women... imagine being degraded, abused and being told it's the Deen and if you question it, you're questioning Allah SWT. The Muslim community always parrots that women are honoured in Islam but they usually do not (there is some change happening slowly Alhumdulliah). It was really a case of 'dont p*ss on me and tell me it's raining'. Alhumdulliah, whenever I came across degrading teachings and practices, I always had the Quran, Seerah to go back on as well as a long list of amazing women role-models. How are you going to tell me women are XYZ when I can list a number of women who can run intellectual, spiritual, bravery, leadership etc circles around you? I've come home many times and told Dad what I heard and Dad would be infuriated. We'd discuss it and he'd always be like 'next time you hear like this, you tell them such-and-such!'. Anyways, I've distanced myself from the wider Muslim community and as I don't know if my internal boundaries are sturdy enough, it will stay that way for the foreseeable future.
I loved this story, because I related to this to a T. Same story with my dad and same story with stuff I saw when I started mingling with a wider muslim community. The way I saw boys & girls both having wrong perceptions about girls & women and how I felt like I had to defend our God-given rights and status every minute and every second. It's really sad but inshaAllah I hope there will be changes going towards the future!
SubhanAllah I completely relate to your story (I would just replace your Dad role with my Mom). I always viewd living isolated from the Muslim community as a sad thing but afterwards I realized that it was a blessing from Allah as I could grow and learn my deen on an almost blank slate without the noise of the community to interfere too much. Al hamduliLlah.
@@salaahkhayr2398 he said some of us men. He didn’t say all men. So why do get defensive and start saying that not all women take advice wholeheartedly? Of course not all women take advice wholeheartedly, some appreciate it and some don’t.
I love you!!!!!!!!!!!! I can’t express how much I enjoy these talks! You women are true beautiful leaders! Alhamdulilah may Allah grant you all the best rewards for opening up about so many different topics! I converted to Islam and you have made me realize that many things I have gone thru are about culture.. not from Islam :)
mashAllah sister! As a revert, these videos really help me too! Are you cuban? how old are you? i’d love to meet more revert sisters. I’m a teen and a nicaraguan revert and i totally understand what it’s like to be a latina revert. Sorry if this is creepy lol ignore me if you want 😂😊
@@sneakerhead6625 Salam sister I’m sorry it’s been months I just saw this! Sending you all my love sister! I’m Puerto Rican :) hope all is well inshallah!!!! Stay strong and steadfast sister🤍🤍💗
These are rights listed in the Quran, so it is not feminism, it is the truth, and there is no better guide than the Quran. How dare you spit on the rights that were given to us by Allah. Great video, keep addressing the tough topics that unfortunately keep being swept under the rug in the Muslim community. Please stop calling your culture beliefs Islam just because you remove women’s rights in your culture. You make women buy into that way of thinking and it dangerous and oppressive. Forced marriages, physical abuse of women, just being harsh to you wife because she has an opinion, then label those who speak out about these issues is just beyond sad. A Muslim woman standing up for her God given rights is not feminism nor does she hate men. My husband hears me, and is comfortable with me having my own voice without feeling threatened. We respect each other, and know how to express ourselves without oppressing, yelling, or hitting each other. These sisters are doing a wonderful job. ...whenever you speak, speak justly even if a near relative is concerned. 6:152
@@LaYinkaSanni Well said 👏🏾. Keep doing what your doing, your motivating us teen/young adult, Muslim women. Ignore these ignorant people, they clearly don’t know enough about their deen. May Allah reward you. Ameen ❤️
@Alhaidan Younes and this proves that the these are not feminist views as they stated. Husbands have their rights as well as wives have their rights. This is not up for discussion only as long as youre fulfilling each others rights whilst being compassionate and affectionate.
They are jahil. A man who knows his Deen knows what a woman has got in this deen. Man up and give women their rights. Educate yourselves please. By Allah the Ummah needs the men to learn their Deen in order for it to function correct.
The reality is very few people know their rights. Men don’t know their own rights and the rights of others on them, and women don’t know their own rights and the rights of others upon them. Gaining knowledge is a way for everyone to increase their relationship with Allah, and to empower their own selves. The more I learn, the more content yet hunger for more knowledge.
@@salaahkhayr2398 the sisters addressed this issue of people saying "oh well you're talking about this, but you're not talking about this other thing! so you're not representing islam correctly!!" Excuse me. They are talking about the issues within the ummah. They are focusing on this topic specifically. It does not mean they do not care for the duties or that they do not uphold them. It is disgusting that you would shame them in such a way. They are UPHOLDING the rights given to them by ISLAM, by addressing the issue that many abuse and are ignortant of women's rights in ISLAM. Oh, i guess you could say they are promoting TRUE islam then. They HAVE talked about how women and men in marriage should care for one another and uphold each other's rights literally in the video. right now they see a major problem, and have experience of injustices against them and loved ones, by misguided people who don''t know the full deen, and are not educated on the rights of the women, who are not giving rights to their wives (or by women themselves, to each other, because they are also not knowledgeable about this!!!). You sound like the people who say, "you're talking about the war in this country, but what about the war in this other country?!!!" Rasing awarness about an issue does not mean that the other issues are suddenly not important???? Sister/Brother, please check yourself. See why it bothers you so much that they are talking about this.
Interesting discussions. I think there is a sense of insecurity amongst not well grounded men when an intelligent speaks about their God given rights in such a way you folks are able to do. I for one am never intimidated by a woman like that if anything I see it as an asset to my life. Keep up with the good job.
Thank you for this episode! Loved it. I'm a woman who found her voice Alhamdulillah and I'm on the journey to help other women find theirs. Keep doing what you're doing! May Allah bless this project
Each and every word came out of you 3 were absolutely correct. What an effort!!! What a courage!! And what clarity of thoughts you ladies have it. MashaAllah.
Suban Allah , I literally just been defending myself from another TH-cam account because I felt I needed to speak up. It is dangerous that women who speak about getting basic rights are labeled as feminists.I have three daughters , we must break the chain .
Sisters, I just come cross your talk by accident, while what you talk about may be legitimate and many thing you speak about is true- like many women are wronged by their husband or other mahram which is wrong and should be fixed. However, your talk can be very misleading and open the door to other Finnah, the fitnah of women following opinions of other women rather than what Allah and His prophet SAW. Durring your whole talk I haven't heard mentioning any verse from the Quraan or Hadeeth to support your stance or opinion about the subject you are talking about. This is very dangerous and you are opening a door to evil and its associates. ALLAH SBW has given a lot of rights to women and honoured with a number of favours but some women may overstep these rights by trying to emulate the none Muslim women who think they are free to do any thing they want and that no one can tell them what to do- remember that Allah has set a clear boundaries for everyone - men and women. And if you want your talk to be Islamic and just then you must put anything you say in the barometer of the Quraan and the Authentic Sunnah and the one of the early Mudlims of the Sahaabah and Tabeen whom Allah SBW blessed with the right knowledge and the correct understanding of the Deen. بدء الإسلام غريب ، و سوف يعود غريب، فطوبى للغرباء.
Feminism I think is misunderstood or I do personally choose to understand it this way: there is as much forms of feminism as kind of women. Feminism is not only hating men or wanting equality no feminism is also about women rights that have been denied and also the respect and visibility of women in society. White feminism is not the only form of feminism and the word has a so bad reputation because of that form of feminism. Nevertheless thanks for the great episode and keep going.
Was just going to say this! White feminism is NOT true feminism. *TRUE FEMINISM IS NOT MAN HATING* The roots of true feminism actually align exactly with Islam bc true feminism inherently gives women every human right that we deserve, just like Islam does. Therefore, not all feminists are Muslims, but all Muslims that practice TRUE Islam are feminists whether they know it or not. Muslims that take away women’s rights are not practicing true Islam. Sadly, ignorant white feminists have given the name of “feminism” a bad reputation, which is why many people are misguided about the actual definition of feminism which is simply giving women rights and empowering them.
In respose to feminism there is one more cult is waking up "the redpill". And trust me if muslim women goes on way too much shouting about their rights without looking at their own mistakes (because life is not greener even for men) God forbid muslim men will leave marriage faster than western men.
Discovered your channel last Ramadan and I can happily say that your videos helped bring me closer to Allah SWT and educated me on many issues. May Allah SWT bless all of you and grant you a place in Jannatul firdous ❤️
You have as always came up so many relevant topics that reach many women from different corners of the world and I'm one of them, from Algeria I love you for the sake of God (أم ريان) .
Very thought-provoking! I think, as it has been stated in the video, many people confuse culture with religion; indeed, Islam liberated women and it has given them the rights to be educated, trade, etc but because of the lack of individuals’ critical self-reflection and personal work to clarify societal misunderstanding and confusion, [we] tend to fall quickly in negative criticism, judgments and categorisation. So as long as there is a lack of dialogue, listening and trying to explore pluriversal ways of understanding Islam and people’s worldview, certain narratives and behaviours will be internalised and remain unchallenged if they are not unpacked, resulting in spiritual shaming, bullying, and dehumanisation. Thank you for interrupting our thinking once again, best wishes! Riadh from Algeria
Islam has freed women from Jahliah! The only way to eliminate confusion and the misunderstanding about women and men rights is to educate ourselves and expand our knowledge by reading Quran, Sunnah, and so on. Feminism( I disagree with the extreme definition, and I agree with the early movement of it)liberalism, secularism, etc are just terms to twist the truth and unveil the devil. Men and women should understand that equality is an equation was solved 1400 years ago when Allah has chosen our beloved prophets Mohammed to be our teacher! Your points are on point lol
This season is Just Lit. MashaAllah. The fact that sme pple have reverted to islam is also the fact that MashaAllah you even after speaking out about the issues we encounter, you remind pple of the rights of Muslims as it is in the Qur'an and the most teachings of our most beloved Prophet Muhammad PBUH in beautiful ways...... waiting for next episode while I watch previous ones ...💙💙❤💜
can you talk about muslim housewives that feel underappreciated, also juggling career and kids would be a nice topic! Perhaps a part 2 to this will be sufficient too!!
As a revert, perhaps I don't experience things in exactly the same way - but I'm surprised that people see feminism as a negative - I found this as one of the beauties that brought me to Islam. Whilst we're on this...what on earth is wrong with wearing a coloured hijab....what happened to being judged on your intentions??
From what I know, the thing with feminism and other movements in general is that Islam already has solutions for all issues that humans face including women's rights, so we don't need to look externally for man-made solutions that are ultimately flawed because they come from humans who, no matter how knowledgable and intelligent they are, are still limited in their understanding of the complexity of the world. Allah has sent us divine guidance, and He knows everything, while we're working with many missing puzzle pieces. Like there are multiple ideologies that exist that concern how the economic system should function, based on human greed but also a desire for justice - capitalism, socialism, etc. - but Islam as a system for all aspects of life covers the economic sphere as well. We just need seek it out from the Quran and sunnah. The problem is that there is no where on this earth right now that implements and rules by Islam holistically. The last khilafa we've had, the Ottoman empire was dissolved almost 100 years ago. Having a Khalifa was so important to the early Muslims that they made sure they had a leader before they buried the Prophet peace be upon him, who was the most important person to walk this earth, and burials are usually done as soon as possible. Also, Umar, the second Khalifa gave a deadline of 3 days after his death to decide on his successor while he was on his deathbed. There's this hadith from Sahih Muslim: It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ) said: A commander (of the Muslims) is a shield for them. They fight behind him and they are protected by (him from tyrants and aggressors). If he enjoins fear of God, the Exalted and Glorious, and dispenses justice, there will be a (great) reward for him; and if he enjoins otherwise, it redounds on him. And this one: Narrated Thawban: The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death. (Al-Albani) I hope this helps. Sorry for the long sentences. :)
Today in the west there is no such thing as marriage largely because of feminism huge rates of divorces and single mothers so we Muslims follow Islam’s teachings not the destructive western feminism
Intelligent, articulate and so well balanced mA. This is the first podcast that I truly feel reflects the wholesome values of our Deen. May Allah swt bless you. Ameen.
Salam, Really appreciate your talks and the authenticity you bring to the table. I only have one suggestion for you to consider in future talks. I would suggest you provide a references or sanads to any historical stories or ahadith you mention, respectively. I'm sure sometime you won't be able to remember them on the spot and say them, but then you could note them down in the description box. Keep up the honest work!
I’ve seen so many male scholars say Muslim women have been polluted by feminism. But what is wrong about knowing your worth , how you should be treated as a women ; as a human being and speaking out about your experiences.
Assalamualaikum ladies. I respectfully also disagree that feminism is a bad label. Feminism is voicing your rights as a woman and equal citizen of the world. Men make it seem like it's a bad word for women who are outspoken and independent. I call myself a proud Muslim feminist. Its time to own the title and give it our own narrative.
This is a wonderful channel that brings up important discussions around Muslim women and it is extremely empowering. Thank you very much for using your voices as it inspires many more!
Thank you for what you do, dear sisters - and for your courage. I was having the convo of labels with two dear friends not too long ago. In that, if we really want khair or are genuinely concerned, coming with curiosity, kindness and asking gentle questions is what’s helpful. Judgements and conclusions - you’ve already decided (ya’ni, what do you need me for?!), and with that, closed the lines of communication. I agree with the mention of shadow work mentioned by Sr. Sumaya and assessing the discomfort in yourself mentioned by Sr. LaYinka...change brings discomfort...may Allah reward you for the impact that HTT is having. With ❤️
Also 18:12 omggg yesss. I love these conversations. I feel like am part of them whenever i agree with one of you. 💜💜💜 You all have amazing conversations that i would love to be a part of!
@Alhaidan Younes if things don't go your way, you call it "unislamic ideologies" typical man. I will tell what's unislamic, you twisting the Deen in order to serve your misogynistic view but I have sad news for you, women are learning their Deen deeply and they teaching their fellow women which can have great impact on the Muslim women community. No more ignorance
Great discussion! Appreciated hearing this. I do want to note that feminism *does not* equal ‘man hater’ and/or ‘wanting to be like men’ as was suggested in the video. Feminism isn’t just one single ideology and way of thought. It’s not fair to conflate all feminism/feminists with ‘hating men’. It’s so much more than that.
I've always felt bad about being angry when my rights aren't met. As though I should have risen above it easily. But u women show that it's ok to get mad. It's part of the process. There's a beauty in the struggle.
asalamu aleikum sisters 💕 be careful with nasheeds, i have very little knowledge but i've heard that nasheeds are not permissible because it can give the same effect as music
I feel like this spoke to my heart. I am almost done with uni in shaa Allah and really love studies and my career path but also one day would love to be a wife and mother. Sometimes though it feels as though they make it seem like you have to chose one side and there is no in between, which isnt true. I have decided to ignore these types of people and choose to be happy and not let people spiritually shame me anymore.
We are supposed to cover everything but our hands and face and we are allowed to be seen outside. We aren't supposed to nor is it written anywhere that we are meant to be in the shadows. I don't see how these sisters are breaking a religious ruling by talking... the simple act of speaking. SubhanAllah... perhaps some brothers shake at the thought of their wives and or sisters bringing relevant issues to the table. Perhaps some sisters shake at the thought of others corrupting the bubble they place themselves and children into. We are not meant to be monks... we are meant to live in the world. I love the comments within the video that said Muslims should be at the front of the line confronting our issues and correcting them... mashAllah.
@@salaahkhayr2398 so we can't interact with other human beings? Nobody is allowed to see us? So it is impossible for a woman to have a job or just to walk outside? How are we supposed to live? That's ridiculous. Where do you get this information from?
Dear honest tea talk Please shed some light on "war of mind and heart". Sometimes in life we get so caught in between that we don't take a correct decision in our life. How to have a clear understanding of this fight? JazakAllah
Love this episode! x I will share something one of my teachers shared with me regarding when giving advice to another person. She mentioned that when giving advice ensure to have the other persons heart as the focus and ask yourself; Is this advice that I am going to give, for the growth of this person heart or not? Too often we give advice from a place of ego and/self-benefit. I feel, if we could all take this on before giving advice to another person we would do our world so much good.
just started watching this but really appreciate the work you're doing, very reasonable and balanced perspective and its important for that perspective to be spread to sisters who are actually turning to feminism and going to extremes. I also realize the other side need to be openminded also and not so extreme.
When they said they were going deep, they meant it! Keep this coming. We should have a lot of platforms where discussions like this are being made. Baarakallahu feekum ladies. Nice! Like I always say to her, "I'm not pro feminism, but I appreciate women who speak up, and express themselves how they deem fit". I think every lady out there should watch this.
I’m so grateful and happy that I discovered this channel because everything you said is exactly how I think and see the world. Being a modern Muslim woman with a mentality and goals that don’t conform to our cultural expectations of the “perfect Muslimah” makes it really hard to practise the deen at peace and this channel makes me feel heard. thank you girls for this ❤️🥺
How can anybody hate on you women. Honestly can't understand it. Men are comfortable with the positions they have in our toxic cultures. They have no idea how it feels to have to carry the image of the whole family without having asked for it. There is a certain level of intellect someone has to aquire to be able to understand the conversations you women have. I honestly love these conversations! May Allah bless the three of you and reward you for your courage to speak up, ameen.
The satisfaction of being fully integrated and effectively being able to converse on this specific topic and the joy of being heard, acknowledge and feeling included as a whole of this topic, is the beautiful expression on sumaya's face,mashallah,really nice and inspiring to see and keen on seeing more episodes like this one where every single one of u ladies come across as 1 strong cohesive group!
Yes yes yes! Finally to get this dialogue started in the community! I think in the Muslim community today there is a lot of reform in unpacking topics that aren’t often talked about yet Feminism is one I’ve yet to hear and I think it’s because living in the Western World this whole “feminist” movement has confused Muslims and has led to a) not having this needed dialogue and b) a label to place on women who are speaking up on the issues on literally Rights Allah gave us. Loved this episode so much! May Allah bless you ladies and the whole HTT production team and allow this conversation to be a starting place for lots of other platforms to address in the Muslim ummah-particularly for Muslims living in the West (but even the East too since Western ideologies are influencing non-western countries in many ways)
Epic episode as per usual. This platform and space you sister created, and the topics you bring to us is...GOLD-and frankly ahead of its time. May Allah reward all of your efforts, ease all of your difficulties and make your stance firm on what He loves. I genuinely appreciate all of it!
I feel like spiritual shaming comes from a place of ego and pride, and it's not enjoining good and forbidding evil for the sake of Allah, and for that person to actually become better.
May The Almighty Allah grant you the endless blessings of what you are doing my sisters. As a Muslim man, and a mindset coach as well, I've learned that someone bringing you negative energy has nothing to do with who you are. It has everything to do with them. You can only serve out to the world what you have within. Keep on shining your light; it's guiding many. Once more, may Allah grant you barakah.
Subhannallah! How coincidence is this! I have been saying the same, speaking up for women's rights would help next women generations to not suffer. Thank you so much sisters!
@@kashki1145 hhh walal! soomaaliya ayaan ku aqliyeestay ayada leena ku dhex noolahay, marka waxba magacyo ha noo bixin wixi qaldan waan wada aragnaahe aan wada saxno inta Alle ka cabsano oo xishoono. Mahadsanid
I think this has been one of my favourite videos. I feel like allll the previous videos somehow fit into this one. My mind was rushing through commentary each time one of you bought a point. A very honest, brutal and current topic which affects every single one of us regardless of our gender. Brilliant job Ma shā Allāh Tabārak Allāh. Own these discussions and keep them coming my beauties. I would looove to see a panel discussion with a live audience; In shaa Allah something to think about for the future. These videos have come at the perfect time, may Allah accept all your efforts and may he always honour you all. 🌹
Great video. Thank you for doing these videos and discussing these topics. You mentioned you don't believe "women are equal." What exactly do you mean? Could you expand on that? Also, you seem to consider feminism as an extreme label or a bad label but why so? Feminism is about being treated equally, about having the same opportunities, about not having to work 5 times more to arrive at a particular work position, about being paid the same salary for doing the same job. Why did I have the impression that you tried to avoid being labelled as a feminist? I would've liked to hear you actually discuss the topic of feminism, not just Muslim women being labelled as feminists. Thanks again :)
This was a great topic, I appreciate the angle/perspectives the sisters we’re communicating from, but I also feel they could have clarified why feminism doesn’t speak for us from an Islamic perspective. Whilst many facets of feminism are of course useful, commendable and needed, such as equal pay rights etc islam is wholesome for us and we believe our God given roles, rights and responsibilities have been defined in the most wholesome and healthiest of ways. We are biologically different, we strive for equity not equality. For instance some Islamic inheritance laws may seem advantageous to men, but when the mans responsibilities are taken into account, I.e. his wife, parents and sisters (who are unmarried) he is responsible for and required to provide for, then it makes sense why he inherits a greater portion. It isn’t a walk in the park, he will be held accountable. As a woman it is liberating for us to know that we are free from such accounting in the court of Allah swt in the hereafter, on the day we all shall be questioned. This of course means that women and men, need financial literacy and education, to understand their roles as defined by the Quran and Hadith (sayings of the prophet) The feminist narrative isn’t liberating, makes women who choose to stay at home feel useless and everything seems to be from a lens of defensiveness. Islam gives the woman choice, choice to work or not. Mother’s hold great respect, where there are many prophetic narrations, upholding and praising her role. Modern liberal capitalist societies have toppled and confused men and women. Where it seems men aren’t pulling their weight, are being stripped off their responsibilities... more men in the developed world are driven to suicide ... chivalry seems to be declining in an effort to emasculate the male population. We aren’t superwomen, we can’t play both the role of father and mother. We don’t desire a man-less world (from the perspective of extreme feminists) we need strong, supportive responsible men. We don’t want a society full of single mothers and absent fathers (an unfortunate growing trend in the west) I’m not sure if you saw the recent controversial bbc interview with the journalist asking the newly appointed muslim female leader of the mcb(muslim council of Britain) if there were any female Imams I.e. female prayer leaders. It was a stupid question and made the questioner seem ignorant, pathetic and plain rude. Well we believe there are many reasons and much wisdom behind why women can’t be an imam. Women go through periods of menstruation, child birth etc it’s a huge responsibility and requires effort (5X a day) whilst women can lead female worshippers. leading both sexes isn’t permissible within the parameters of islam and we take full acknowledgement and pride in such guidelines. We want fellow muslim brothers to lead us, upholding our rights and their own. A certain feminist (like the journalist, ironically questioning a fellow woman in a humiliating way, instead of congratulating her in her new role, caused a mockery of herself by that line of questioning) would see this from a judging lens, calling it out as patriarchy and misogyny. We as muslim women call it chivalry and a capable man’s duty. Also the role of an imam is unlike the role of a scholar, mufti or “priest” (roles that countless women take on within Islamic spheres and circles) Women scholarship is deep rooted in the history of islam, look up sheikh Akram nadawi’s book al-muhaddithat, a complete study of muslim female scholars from the advent of islam, a history of 1000s of women who studied, taught and engaged in Islamic discourse and education. We are not in need of feminism, but need our Islamic way of life to be upheld and reclaimed. Our creator knows us better than we know ourselves, and He Allah swt has shown us the correct path through the Qur’an. May Allah swt guide us all to the truth and correct path
You have some really good questions. With all due respect to these wonderful ladies, a lot of Muslims treat the word 'feminist' like a slur. Why? What's so bad about it? Is there a worldwide issue of millions of men being oppressed by feminists? No? I didn't think so.
@@purplecosmos5431 That's true, and it's not only some Muslims. I hear so many people say, "oh no I'm not a feminist, I like men" or "I don't think we should repeat history again and do what we did with women but with men; we shouldn't forget about men's rights.. (!?). People tend to fear feminism and have a lot of prejudice about it, thinking that it's about stepping on men's rights. We shouldn't reject this movement, we need it. We should rather support change these prejudices...
@@lynm7890 The way I think of it is- if someone thinks believing in equality and safety for women is impinging on men's rights somehow, then they really, really need to reexamine what they think men's rights are. I know it's a catchphrase and everything but 'Women's rights are human rights' really does say it all. We're not demanding something special. We're working for woman to have basic human rights. That is what makes a feminist, and I'm proud to be one. No one can take the meaning of that word away from me because they're offended by their perception of it.
@@purplecosmos5431 You're absolutely right. Very well said. Women's rights are human rights. I am also a proud feminist, and so should any decent human being be.
This was a great topic, I appreciate the angle/perspective the sisters we’re communicating from, but I also feel they could have clarified why feminism doesn’t speak for us from an Islamic perspective. Whilst many facets of feminism are of course useful, commendable and needed, such as equal pay rights, safety in the work place, etc islam is wholesome for us and we believe our God given roles, rights and responsibilities have been defined in the most wholesome and healthiest of ways. We are biologically different, we strive for equity not equality. For instance some Islamic inheritance laws may seem advantageous to men, but when the mans responsibilities are taken into account, I.e. his wife, parents and sisters (who are unmarried) he is responsible for and required to provide for, then it makes sense why he inherits a greater portion. It isn’t a walk in the park, he will be held accountable. As a woman it is liberating for us to know that we are free from such accounting in the court of Allah swt in the hereafter, on the day we all shall be questioned. This of course means that women and men, need financial literacy and education. To understand all things money related, so as to ensure that no injustices are carried out, both intentionally and unintentionally. To understand our roles as defined by the Quran and Hadith (sayings of the prophet) The feminist narrative isn’t liberating, makes women who choose to stay at home feel useless and everything seems to be from a lens of defensiveness. (Like it’s ok to go out topless, grow unhygienic hair and go to extreme lengths and alter you biology!! ! Naaah we don’t want that!) Islam gives the woman choice, choice to work or not. Mother’s hold great respect, where there are many prophetic narrations, upholding and praising her role. Modern liberal capitalist societies have toppled and confused men and women. Where it seems men aren’t pulling their weight, are being stripped off their responsibilities... more men in the developed world are driven to suicide ... chivalry seems to be declining in an effort to emasculate the male population. We aren’t superwomen, we can’t play both the role of father and mother. We don’t desire a man-less world (from the perspective of extreme feminists) we need strong, supportive responsible men. We don’t want a society full of single mothers and absent fathers (an unfortunate growing trend in the west) The recent controversial bbc interview with the journalist asking the newly appointed muslim female leader of the mcb(muslim council of Britain) asking whether there were any female Imams I.e. female prayer leaders; was a stupid question and made the questioner seem ignorant, pathetic and plain rude. Well we believe there are many reasons and much wisdom behind why women can’t be an imam. Women go through periods of menstruation, child birth etc it’s a huge responsibility and requires effort (5X a day) whilst women can lead female worshippers. leading both sexes isn’t permissible within the parameters of islam and we take full acknowledgement and pride in such guidelines. We want fellow muslim brothers to lead us, upholding our rights and their own. A certain feminist (like the journalist, ironically questioning a fellow woman in a humiliating way, instead of congratulating her in her new role, caused a mockery of herself by that line of questioning) would see this from a judging lens, calling it out as patriarchy and misogyny. We as muslim women call it chivalry and a capable man’s duty. Also the role of an imam is unlike the role of a scholar, mufti or “priest” (roles that countless women take on within Islamic spheres and circles) Women scholarship is deep rooted in the history of islam, look up sheikh Akram nadawi’s book al-muhaddithat, a complete study of muslim female scholars from the advent of islam, a history of 1000s of women who studied, taught and engaged in Islamic discourse and education. We are not in need of feminism, but need our Islamic way of life to be upheld and reclaimed. Our creator knows us better than we know ourselves, and He Allah swt has shown us the correct path through the Qur’an. May Allah swt guide us all to the truth and correct path
You can have traces of feminism without claiming to be one The same way some of the sahaba had traces of jahilya in them when they were about to fight over some tribalism issues.... We only have to check our behavior and always contrast what we say and do with Quran and sunnah None of us are guarantee to go to jannah we have to strive for it May Allah azawajell guide us
I don't understand why being labeled as a feminist is a bad thing? Yes Allah gave us our rights, but let's be real, the actual application of our rights has come from feminists fighting for them, especially living in western countries and even now in muslim majority countries too. I may not agree with everything about feminism but it's not a religion, you don't have to take it all or leave it all. We're all fighting for the same thing at the end of the day, the betterment of women everywhere. That being said, great episode jazakom allah khairan.
@@hamaidmk ISIS also project a wrong image of islam, do we stop calling ourselves muslims to dissociate? the point is there will always be extremes and extremists, doesn't mean i throw away the whole thing
@@raghadrihan6387 the word feminist and its roots are rooted in individualism, and some of their views and opinions directly contradict Islam and Islamic values. i think it is better to say woman rights activist because it means fighting to practice the rights given to us by Allah swt
ASA Please continue speaking and expressing your opinions. Matter you are discussing are worth discussing and need to change. You will find some who do agree, some who disagree and some like me in the middle depending on what is being said but that should not discourage you. Everyone should be adult enough to discuss a topic and respect each other opinions. Feminism just like anything has it’s good and bad. Take the good and leave the bad but to use that to insult people is not ok but what do I know loll
It's 2021, people these women are our mothers, sisters, daughters and wifes. We have to respect them as the prophet swl order us to do it. I think you have all right to that sisters macha Allah. Keep doing please 🙏🙏🙏
You women inspire so many of us especially as a revert. You have given us a voice which doesn’t seem to come up much. Also men seem very hypocritical when they talk about us? If it’s for the sake of the religion and Allah and to make our relationships better then what is the issue on both ends?
We can't fix the issues our ummah is facing if we keep sweeping them under the rug. Spot on! Yaa Allah make better our affairs and allow us to return to how we once were a beacon of light of justice and etiquette for the rest of the world 🤲🏻
what we have in our oummah are called "Misogynistic Puritan", female misoginy, which is the worst misogyny. The Misogynistic Puritan takes the ideal woman to be domestic, subservient, nurturing, kind, mild-tempered, alluring, youthful, and pure. She has adopted this feminine ideal from her misogynistic husband, family or acquaintances. She takes herself to be pretty darn close to the feminine ideal. She is subservient, always standing behind her man as a solid pillar of support. She hates women who deviate from the feminine ideal and takes it to be her life's mission to find ways to discipline them and ultimately get them on the "right track, a submissive and holier-than-thou housewife.
Hadith أَخْبَرَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا اللَّيْثُ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَجْلاَنَ، عَنْ سَعِيدٍ الْمَقْبُرِيِّ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، قَالَ قِيلَ لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَىُّ النِّسَاءِ خَيْرٌ قَالَ الَّتِي تَسُرُّهُ إِذَا نَظَرَ وَتُطِيعُهُ إِذَا أَمَرَ وَلاَ تُخَالِفُهُ فِي نَفْسِهَا وَمَالِهَا بِمَا يَكْرَهُ " It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: "It was said to the Messenger of Allah: 'Which woman is best?' He said: 'The one who makes him happy when he looks at her, obeys him when he commands her, and she does not go against his wishes with regard to herself nor her wealth.'" Hasan (Darussalam) Sunan an-Nasaa'i 3231 In-book : Book 26, Hadith 36
Thank my Muslimah sisters you really help me today, you guys mentioned the things that I think about . You brought tears and happiness at the same time.
Thank you for all the amazing work that your doing, enlightening us and empowering us to talk honestly about the good, bad and the ugly. This episode was just fantastic!! I do have one request, however; alot if people might not see what's wrong with being a feminist; I tend to get into this debate often where I disagree with Muslims needing to be feminists as well simply because we have all our rights given to us over a thousand years ago! So I would appreciate if you would mention the reason for that first before continuing with current issues. Again, thank you so much! You are role models to me! ❤❤
The issue is there is no balance...we're empowering our girls and immasculating our boys. We DO NOT have the right role models for our boys which is why we have such problems in the community. What does a real Muslim MAN look like? A man who is a provider, a leader? why aren't woman's rights being met? Why are we expecting soft men to be strong and respectful all of a sudden?That's the real conversation we need. Let's bring Gabriel Al Romani, Abu American and the T3M boys to give their perspective. Break the intergenerational trauma by empowering our boys.
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These women are the representation of conversations I have with myself and my 3 different personalities
Lmaooo if that’s not the truth 😭💀
looooooool
I feel personnally attacked Loooool
Nice one! MashaAllah!
Omg hahaha this is so true! Most relatable comment i've ever read on youtube!
Sumayah is SO underrated! She doesn't speak as much as Layinka and Aliyah. But, whenever she does say something, her statements leave you pondering for hours. Ma'Sha'Allāh. May Allah preserve her 'ilm.
YESSS !
She is so eloquent too. Love her and her inputs
Oh Yes!!!!
Agreed. I always wait for her to speak.
She is so smart mashallah, my favorite
As a new Muslima your talks have been such blessings to me subhanallah. It is challenging sometimes to get information that is not culturally charged so I seek the truth that is in Islam and I thank you for sharing that and only that. May Allah bless you sisters
Me too sister !
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You speak german, sister ?
Welcome to Islam 🩷🩷🩷
I'm not a Muslim but I love to see those 3 women talking
🙏 a great knowledge 🙏
May Allah guide you to islam
@Obama Care I’m seeing women who said they are women... what’s your point?
Salam, In fact I am a man and I am muslim . Certainly I appreciate your beautiful topics and I have watched most of your debates. Even if I live in Senegal West Africa, I take time to follow you because the way you are doing things is correct and professional. God bless you muslim sisters!!!
“Just because it has been going on like that for so long doesn’t mean that that’s the right way”_Layinka
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doesnt mean that that's the wrong way either
To all the sisters and brothers who will read my comment, one thing I tell all is to ensure you have scripture to make your point as a mark of power to establish all evidence as Allah is the and with the Truth. to say so much with no evidence and making people ponder is just like the male preachers I have faced. To say one thing is that you, I, and anyone or anything especially something that is living to be classed as life is a product of Allah. Therefore we must acknowledge this as we know every soul will answer for itself and good or bad print that we leave behind that has an effect on the course of time will be held against us on the destination of judgement, be very careful as Mohammed pbuh stopped anyone making any hieroglyphics as people will make idols and worship this as they have done and still do. There are tracers in the Hindhu's collection and Greek's history that are linked to the Quran and to what Mohammed said. I fear to be a father as I don't want a son to be influenced by the leading and the men out there in the Islamic world and I have learned and still do at a slow pace, but I fear far more to have a daughter, as she will see a man (father) and naturally be influenced by the women, I have no wife never been with or close to a woman as I fear 'The' everything after death and Believe in what is in the Quran and Mohammed thesis pbuh. We need to look at the chemistry of the brain and the inner space of the body. The brain alone, the central point of mass processing is why I surrendered to the One that described Itself as Irrasitable and told us to look at our food. The elements of 'Product'are the periodic table and all we consume alone comes from there and all we use can be broken down to the rawest form and located in there also mutated to be something else as its just ingredients. Food has its role and impact on the body as we know but nobody talks of the impact on the brain, ADHD is due to pathogens disruption in the brain where receptors are not receiving or not able to consume, or not formed, but likely due to the consumption of food as reaction and the degeneration of the body solely due to the hgh production and the main hormone as root base. there is so much to learn as Alla told us "Save Yourself from Yourself" also "stinginess of the Soul". in Life as humans we either are the problem or become the problem, is that not why we greet in the Islamic way. The second chapter in the Quran is very clear about a tribe or being classed as a nation of people that can be found in the Hindhu and Greek collections. And we all know the Quran is not in the correct order it came in but it has been put together with immense consideration as the first is the glory of the Maker, second, the people to be cautious of and they were favored by Allah the third 'The Woman'.
those that read don't be afraid to ask me why I have entered the above and what else I know as I am just like you learning and I fear the One that made Time a destination as without it I can not ever meet anyone at any point such as Tuesday 9am 24th may 2022 (its not the Islamic calendar)
@@AjibJibrilso I am guessing you wouldn't mind having Hitler as your ruler?
Many times a woman suppresses other woman. Like a mother in law does injustice to her own daughter in law. Also when a woman knowingly flirts with a married man. Causing harm in the marriage.There are many examples.
Yes internalised misogyny is such a problem.
have you ever heard the idiom " women are their own worst enemies" , i actually do believe in it though!
Women hurt another woman! Secret second wives polygamy marriages! I believe in karma because karma is from Allah
@@dangersofsecretmarriagesan9330 There is no reference to "karma" in any Islamic texts, it does not come from Islam. Yes Allah (swt) does hold all human beings to account for their deeds, some face punishment for misdeeds or blessings for good they did or are taught a lesson in this life and some are punished in the next, but there is no "karma" in Islam.
@@neelubird you narcissists Allah SWT punishment in in the Quran!
FINALLY. Honestly I could cry. Cry that I found this channel, it is much needed for the muslim woman AND men to watch. I am so sick of the second a muslimah speaks about something she is quickly labelled a feminist or progressivist. We need more muslimah's talking in open discussions like this.
incorrect, no problem with Muslim women speaking up, it's when they start speaking and saying they open feminists
@@jahanghir528 obviously.. yes . These sisters are not feminists . I don’t like sisters who say they feminists or brothers who say they red pill .
Neither are compatible with Islam .
@@Varshav198 Lool they are 💯 % Feminist!! It’s soo cringe as a man a lot of the times watching their videos
@@Varshav198 the Islam pill is the best pill
JazakAllah sisters. I am a father of two amazing little girls and watching your show helps me tremendously to better myself. Also hopefully a better husband.
Protect your daughters from Muslim men and polygamy marriages! Please
@@dangersofsecretmarriagesan9330 what? I am a Muslim man and plenty of men in my family happily married with one woman. Also know few muslim and non-muslim men cheating on their one wife for years.
@@basht5899 alot of women cheat too...
@@basht5899 I know more then you, men using woman in polygamy marriages, for money, lust and use and abuse....
@@dangersofsecretmarriagesan9330 I am certain that you know a lot more than me on a lot of issues. I can only speak of my personal knowledge and lived experiences. We all humans have our challenges. Most people in my life are good people.
I see this spiritual shaming within Christianity too. Honestly speaking, as a young girl, I was almost definitely a perpetrator of such too (we really thank God for growth). Thanks for this honest conversation girls 💕
Great topic ladies! I grew up quite isolated from wider Muslim (and even Somali community). This had many shortcomings but I am always grateful for the foundational years and Islamic values my beloved father brought us up in ❤️. I never was made to feel lesser in any way as a woman, we learnt about inspirational men and women and took them as role model (my father was inspired by many righteous and change-making men and women). We were brought up on the Quran and Seerah- with a strong love for RasoulAllah s.a.w and the companions. Dad focused on our purpose and didn't differentiated between his sons and daughters where there needn't be. One example- we all observed hijab from a young age and dad emphasised and called all of us out on our hijab (physical and otherwise) equally. I always felt I could ask anything, I never felt bad about any aspect of my womanhood (including my sexuality as a woman). Of course, dad didn't discuss certain things in-depth with us but it was the natural conclusion we all came to as young adults due to the way he brought us up. Alhumdulliah.
In my later teen years, I mixed more with the wider Muslim community (and went to an Islamic highschool). Horrible experience. The amount of twisted practises and beliefs really messed me over. Particularly when it came to the treatment of women... imagine being degraded, abused and being told it's the Deen and if you question it, you're questioning Allah SWT. The Muslim community always parrots that women are honoured in Islam but they usually do not (there is some change happening slowly Alhumdulliah). It was really a case of 'dont p*ss on me and tell me it's raining'.
Alhumdulliah, whenever I came across degrading teachings and practices, I always had the Quran, Seerah to go back on as well as a long list of amazing women role-models. How are you going to tell me women are XYZ when I can list a number of women who can run intellectual, spiritual, bravery, leadership etc circles around you?
I've come home many times and told Dad what I heard and Dad would be infuriated. We'd discuss it and he'd always be like 'next time you hear like this, you tell them such-and-such!'.
Anyways, I've distanced myself from the wider Muslim community and as I don't know if my internal boundaries are sturdy enough, it will stay that way for the foreseeable future.
I loved this story, because I related to this to a T. Same story with my dad and same story with stuff I saw when I started mingling with a wider muslim community. The way I saw boys & girls both having wrong perceptions about girls & women and how I felt like I had to defend our God-given rights and status every minute and every second. It's really sad but inshaAllah I hope there will be changes going towards the future!
SubhanAllah I completely relate to your story (I would just replace your Dad role with my Mom). I always viewd living isolated from the Muslim community as a sad thing but afterwards I realized that it was a blessing from Allah as I could grow and learn my deen on an almost blank slate without the noise of the community to interfere too much. Al hamduliLlah.
some of us men act like we can give any advice without taking any advice
Who said so?? Toi speak like all women accept advice wholeheartedly.
@@salaahkhayr2398do you know all women
@@Hope.endless did I say I know all women?
@@salaahkhayr2398 he said some of us men. He didn’t say all men. So why do get defensive and start saying that not all women take advice wholeheartedly? Of course not all women take advice wholeheartedly, some appreciate it and some don’t.
@@salaahkhayr2398 and indeed you never said all women, my apologies I read wrong.
I love you!!!!!!!!!!!! I can’t express how much I enjoy these talks! You women are true beautiful leaders! Alhamdulilah may Allah grant you all the best rewards for opening up about so many different topics! I converted to Islam and you have made me realize that many things I have gone thru are about culture.. not from Islam :)
mashAllah sister! As a revert, these videos really help me too! Are you cuban? how old are you? i’d love to meet more revert sisters. I’m a teen and a nicaraguan revert and i totally understand what it’s like to be a latina revert. Sorry if this is creepy lol ignore me if you want 😂😊
Mashallah sister❤️❤️
Mashallah. May Allah swt keep you steadfast on the truth
@@sneakerhead6625 Salam sister I’m sorry it’s been months I just saw this! Sending you all my love sister! I’m Puerto Rican :) hope all is well inshallah!!!! Stay strong and steadfast sister🤍🤍💗
@@aissatoudieng6653 inshallah same to you as well! 💗 thank you! Peace be upon you always!!
These are rights listed in the Quran, so it is not feminism, it is the truth, and there is no better guide than the Quran. How dare you spit on the rights that were given to us by Allah. Great video, keep addressing the tough topics that unfortunately keep being swept under the rug in the Muslim community. Please stop calling your culture beliefs Islam just because you remove women’s rights in your culture. You make women buy into that way of thinking and it dangerous and oppressive. Forced marriages, physical abuse of women, just being harsh to you wife because she has an opinion, then label those who speak out about these issues is just beyond sad. A Muslim woman standing up for her God given rights is not feminism nor does she hate men. My husband hears me, and is comfortable with me having my own voice without feeling threatened. We respect each other, and know how to express ourselves without oppressing, yelling, or hitting each other. These sisters are doing a wonderful job.
...whenever you speak, speak justly even if a near relative is concerned. 6:152
It’s labeled feminism because they never talked about the wives duties. Look at you own comment. You wrote everything that literally blame men only.
@@salaahkhayr2398 Not all women are wives. So the 'duties' line you keep dropping is irrelevant to the wider community of Muslim women.
So true!
@@LaYinkaSanni Well said 👏🏾. Keep doing what your doing, your motivating us teen/young adult, Muslim women. Ignore these ignorant people, they clearly don’t know enough about their deen. May Allah reward you. Ameen ❤️
@Alhaidan Younes and this proves that the these are not feminist views as they stated. Husbands have their rights as well as wives have their rights. This is not up for discussion only as long as youre fulfilling each others rights whilst being compassionate and affectionate.
They are jahil. A man who knows his Deen knows what a woman has got in this deen. Man up and give women their rights. Educate yourselves please. By Allah the Ummah needs the men to learn their Deen in order for it to function correct.
100%. would you want your daughter/sister who has a husband that doesn't know basic rights for his wife.
The reality is very few people know their rights. Men don’t know their own rights and the rights of others on them, and women don’t know their own rights and the rights of others upon them. Gaining knowledge is a way for everyone to increase their relationship with Allah, and to empower their own selves. The more I learn, the more content yet hunger for more knowledge.
Talking about women’s rights only but not responsibilities is not at all promoting Islam
Let's educate our children. I educate mine accordingly.
@@salaahkhayr2398 the sisters addressed this issue of people saying "oh well you're talking about this, but you're not talking about this other thing! so you're not representing islam correctly!!" Excuse me. They are talking about the issues within the ummah. They are focusing on this topic specifically. It does not mean they do not care for the duties or that they do not uphold them. It is disgusting that you would shame them in such a way. They are UPHOLDING the rights given to them by ISLAM, by addressing the issue that many abuse and are ignortant of women's rights in ISLAM. Oh, i guess you could say they are promoting TRUE islam then. They HAVE talked about how women and men in marriage should care for one another and uphold each other's rights literally in the video. right now they see a major problem, and have experience of injustices against them and loved ones, by misguided people who don''t know the full deen, and are not educated on the rights of the women, who are not giving rights to their wives (or by women themselves, to each other, because they are also not knowledgeable about this!!!). You sound like the people who say, "you're talking about the war in this country, but what about the war in this other country?!!!" Rasing awarness about an issue does not mean that the other issues are suddenly not important???? Sister/Brother, please check yourself. See why it bothers you so much that they are talking about this.
Interesting discussions. I think there is a sense of insecurity amongst not well grounded men when an intelligent speaks about their God given rights in such a way you folks are able to do. I for one am never intimidated by a woman like that if anything I see it as an asset to my life.
Keep up with the good job.
Well said.
They said what they meant, and meant what they said😤🤎 Bravo sisters👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you for this episode! Loved it. I'm a woman who found her voice Alhamdulillah and I'm on the journey to help other women find theirs. Keep doing what you're doing! May Allah bless this project
proud of you sisters, this is what is relevant and you guys are so brave discussing these topics ,which needs to be addressed
Each and every word came out of you 3 were absolutely correct.
What an effort!!! What a courage!! And what clarity of thoughts you ladies have it. MashaAllah.
I wish there was a podcast version of HTT !!
There is. Simply search for Honest Tea Talk on your favourite podcast platform.
Suban Allah , I literally just been defending myself from another TH-cam account because I felt I needed to speak up. It is dangerous that women who speak about getting basic rights are labeled as feminists.I have three daughters , we must break the chain .
Me toooo!!!!
Sisters, I just come cross your talk by accident, while what you talk about may be legitimate and many thing you speak about is true- like many women are wronged by their husband or other mahram which is wrong and should be fixed. However, your talk can be very misleading and open the door to other Finnah, the fitnah of women following opinions of other women rather than what Allah and His prophet SAW.
Durring your whole talk I haven't heard mentioning any verse from the Quraan or Hadeeth to support your stance or opinion about the subject you are talking about. This is very dangerous and you are opening a door to evil and its associates.
ALLAH SBW has given a lot of rights to women and honoured with a number of favours but some women may overstep these rights by trying to emulate the none Muslim women who think they are free to do any thing they want and that no one can tell them what to do- remember that Allah has set a clear boundaries for everyone - men and women.
And if you want your talk to be Islamic and just then you must put anything you say in the barometer of the Quraan and the Authentic Sunnah and the one of the early Mudlims of the Sahaabah and Tabeen whom Allah SBW blessed with the right knowledge and the correct understanding of the Deen.
بدء الإسلام غريب ، و سوف يعود غريب، فطوبى للغرباء.
Feminism I think is misunderstood or I do personally choose to understand it this way: there is as much forms of feminism as kind of women. Feminism is not only hating men or wanting equality no feminism is also about women rights that have been denied and also the respect and visibility of women in society. White feminism is not the only form of feminism and the word has a so bad reputation because of that form of feminism. Nevertheless thanks for the great episode and keep going.
Yes, that’s exactly what I just made a comment on
Was just going to say this! White feminism is NOT true feminism. *TRUE FEMINISM IS NOT MAN HATING* The roots of true feminism actually align exactly with Islam bc true feminism inherently gives women every human right that we deserve, just like Islam does. Therefore, not all feminists are Muslims, but all Muslims that practice TRUE Islam are feminists whether they know it or not. Muslims that take away women’s rights are not practicing true Islam. Sadly, ignorant white feminists have given the name of “feminism” a bad reputation, which is why many people are misguided about the actual definition of feminism which is simply giving women rights and empowering them.
In respose to feminism there is one more cult is waking up "the redpill". And trust me if muslim women goes on way too much shouting about their rights without looking at their own mistakes (because life is not greener even for men) God forbid muslim men will leave marriage faster than western men.
@@RSyed-tu4rn Feminism does not good with islam sorry if u think that
I agree!
I hope Allah gives you ladies lots of happiness, health and blessing. This episode was one of my favourite, keep the dialogue going!
Nothing to be apologetic. We are who we are and say it out LOUD! go ahead girls.
"I like to be a woman" exactly Layinka. 💯
Discovered your channel last Ramadan and I can happily say that your videos helped bring me closer to Allah SWT and educated me on many issues. May Allah SWT bless all of you and grant you a place in Jannatul firdous ❤️
You have as always came up so many relevant topics that reach many women from different corners of the world and I'm one of them, from Algeria I love you for the sake of God (أم ريان) .
@Alhaidan Younes May Allah grant us knowledge and make us among the steadfast. May God preserve our scholars so that we learn from them.
Very thought-provoking! I think, as it has been stated in the video, many people confuse culture with religion; indeed, Islam liberated women and it has given them the rights to be educated, trade, etc but because of the lack of individuals’ critical self-reflection and personal work to clarify societal misunderstanding and confusion, [we] tend to fall quickly in negative criticism, judgments and categorisation. So as long as there is a lack of dialogue, listening and trying to explore pluriversal ways of understanding Islam and people’s worldview, certain narratives and behaviours will be internalised and remain unchallenged if they are not unpacked, resulting in spiritual shaming, bullying, and dehumanisation. Thank you for interrupting our thinking once again, best wishes! Riadh from Algeria
no you guys are the who have no idea what islam is. islam has nothing to do with feminism or female empowerment.
Islam has freed women from Jahliah! The only way to eliminate confusion and the misunderstanding about women and men rights is to educate ourselves and expand our knowledge by reading Quran, Sunnah, and so on. Feminism( I disagree with the extreme definition, and I agree with the early movement of it)liberalism, secularism, etc are just terms to twist the truth and unveil the devil. Men and women should understand that equality is an equation was solved 1400 years ago when Allah has chosen our beloved prophets Mohammed to be our teacher!
Your points are on point lol
“ she’s wearing colored scarfs now!”
Hilarious. Folks can be so silly.
This season is Just Lit. MashaAllah. The fact that sme pple have reverted to islam is also the fact that MashaAllah you even after speaking out about the issues we encounter, you remind pple of the rights of Muslims as it is in the Qur'an and the most teachings of our most beloved Prophet Muhammad PBUH in beautiful ways...... waiting for next episode while I watch previous ones ...💙💙❤💜
can you talk about muslim housewives that feel underappreciated, also juggling career and kids would be a nice topic! Perhaps a part 2 to this will be sufficient too!!
Salam waleykum , I think there have talk about it in the episode of gender roles or patenting .
Marry men who will contribute in taking care of the kids that you both had
As a revert, perhaps I don't experience things in exactly the same way - but I'm surprised that people see feminism as a negative - I found this as one of the beauties that brought me to Islam. Whilst we're on this...what on earth is wrong with wearing a coloured hijab....what happened to being judged on your intentions??
The colored hijab bit made me laugh so much.
exactly! i’m a revert too
From what I know, the thing with feminism and other movements in general is that Islam already has solutions for all issues that humans face including women's rights, so we don't need to look externally for man-made solutions that are ultimately flawed because they come from humans who, no matter how knowledgable and intelligent they are, are still limited in their understanding of the complexity of the world. Allah has sent us divine guidance, and He knows everything, while we're working with many missing puzzle pieces. Like there are multiple ideologies that exist that concern how the economic system should function, based on human greed but also a desire for justice - capitalism, socialism, etc. - but Islam as a system for all aspects of life covers the economic sphere as well. We just need seek it out from the Quran and sunnah.
The problem is that there is no where on this earth right now that implements and rules by Islam holistically. The last khilafa we've had, the Ottoman empire was dissolved almost 100 years ago.
Having a Khalifa was so important to the early Muslims that they made sure they had a leader before they buried the Prophet peace be upon him, who was the most important person to walk this earth, and burials are usually done as soon as possible. Also, Umar, the second Khalifa gave a deadline of 3 days after his death to decide on his successor while he was on his deathbed.
There's this hadith from Sahih Muslim:
It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ) said:
A commander (of the Muslims) is a shield for them. They fight behind him and they are protected by (him from tyrants and aggressors). If he enjoins fear of God, the Exalted and Glorious, and dispenses justice, there will be a (great) reward for him; and if he enjoins otherwise, it redounds on him.
And this one:
Narrated Thawban:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death. (Al-Albani)
I hope this helps. Sorry for the long sentences. :)
Feminism is dum
Today in the west there is no such thing as marriage largely because of feminism huge rates of divorces and single mothers so we Muslims follow Islam’s teachings not the destructive western feminism
This will be interesting
Very
Intelligent, articulate and so well balanced mA. This is the first podcast that I truly feel reflects the wholesome values of our Deen. May Allah swt bless you. Ameen.
Salam,
Really appreciate your talks and the authenticity you bring to the table.
I only have one suggestion for you to consider in future talks. I would suggest you provide a references or sanads to any historical stories or ahadith you mention, respectively. I'm sure sometime you won't be able to remember them on the spot and say them, but then you could note them down in the description box.
Keep up the honest work!
I'm sending this video to my wife.
Mashallah
I’ve seen so many male scholars say Muslim women have been polluted by feminism. But what is wrong about knowing your worth , how you should be treated as a women ; as a human being and speaking out about your experiences.
thank you guys for addressing this... sigh i’m so glad i’m not the only one thinking this way
Assalamualaikum ladies.
I respectfully also disagree that feminism is a bad label. Feminism is voicing your rights as a woman and equal citizen of the world. Men make it seem like it's a bad word for women who are outspoken and independent. I call myself a proud Muslim feminist. Its time to own the title and give it our own narrative.
This is a wonderful channel that brings up important discussions around Muslim women and it is extremely empowering. Thank you very much for using your voices as it inspires many more!
Thank you for what you do, dear sisters - and for your courage. I was having the convo of labels with two dear friends not too long ago. In that, if we really want khair or are genuinely concerned, coming with curiosity, kindness and asking gentle questions is what’s helpful. Judgements and conclusions - you’ve already decided (ya’ni, what do you need me for?!), and with that, closed the lines of communication. I agree with the mention of shadow work mentioned by Sr. Sumaya and assessing the discomfort in yourself mentioned by Sr. LaYinka...change brings discomfort...may Allah reward you for the impact that HTT is having. With ❤️
Also 18:12 omggg yesss. I love these conversations. I feel like am part of them whenever i agree with one of you. 💜💜💜 You all have amazing conversations that i would love to be a part of!
„we‘re braking the cycle“ .. yes! ❤️
@Alhaidan Younes if things don't go your way, you call it "unislamic ideologies" typical man. I will tell what's unislamic, you twisting the Deen in order to serve your misogynistic view but I have sad news for you, women are learning their Deen deeply and they teaching their fellow women which can have great impact on the Muslim women community. No more ignorance
@@z7z766 yesss thankyouuu
I agree with you girl 😌 Maa Sha Allah
@Alhaidan Younes just reread you comment, and see what's wrong with it.
Great discussion! Appreciated hearing this. I do want to note that feminism *does not* equal ‘man hater’ and/or ‘wanting to be like men’ as was suggested in the video. Feminism isn’t just one single ideology and way of thought. It’s not fair to conflate all feminism/feminists with ‘hating men’. It’s so much more than that.
I always love sumayas perspective Allahuma baarik
I've always felt bad about being angry when my rights aren't met. As though I should have risen above it easily. But u women show that it's ok to get mad. It's part of the process. There's a beauty in the struggle.
For anyone wondering about the nasheed its alaa wardi - yawrood
Wow, I was. thanks.
Aww Thank You Sister
@@fatoumattabintabah4079 you're welcome 😊
asalamu aleikum sisters 💕 be careful with nasheeds, i have very little knowledge but i've heard that nasheeds are not permissible because it can give the same effect as music
BarakAllah u fikoum guys, thanks for standing up for us and our community !
wow this was really really intellectually insightful and needed!!!
Yup, keep looking at the roots. People do need this. Love you for the sake of Allah.
I love all of you guys, but Sumaia, I looooove when Sumaia speaking, so agree with her ,
I feel like this spoke to my heart. I am almost done with uni in shaa Allah and really love studies and my career path but also one day would love to be a wife and mother. Sometimes though it feels as though they make it seem like you have to chose one side and there is no in between, which isnt true. I have decided to ignore these types of people and choose to be happy and not let people spiritually shame me anymore.
We are supposed to cover everything but our hands and face and we are allowed to be seen outside. We aren't supposed to nor is it written anywhere that we are meant to be in the shadows. I don't see how these sisters are breaking a religious ruling by talking... the simple act of speaking. SubhanAllah... perhaps some brothers shake at the thought of their wives and or sisters bringing relevant issues to the table. Perhaps some sisters shake at the thought of others corrupting the bubble they place themselves and children into. We are not meant to be monks... we are meant to live in the world. I love the comments within the video that said Muslims should be at the front of the line confronting our issues and correcting them... mashAllah.
Beautiful comment sister!
Muslim women are not supposed to expose themselves in. Front of cameras for the world.
@@salaahkhayr2398 Don’t we walk outside everyday???
@@salaahkhayr2398 so we can't interact with other human beings? Nobody is allowed to see us? So it is impossible for a woman to have a job or just to walk outside? How are we supposed to live? That's ridiculous. Where do you get this information from?
Dear honest tea talk
Please shed some light on "war of mind and heart". Sometimes in life we get so caught in between that we don't take a correct decision in our life. How to have a clear understanding of this fight?
JazakAllah
Love this episode! x
I will share something one of my teachers shared with me regarding when giving advice to another person. She mentioned that when giving advice ensure to have the other persons heart as the focus and ask yourself; Is this advice that I am going to give, for the growth of this person heart or not? Too often we give advice from a place of ego and/self-benefit. I feel, if we could all take this on before giving advice to another person we would do our world so much good.
just started watching this but really appreciate the work you're doing, very reasonable and balanced perspective and its important for that perspective to be spread to sisters who are actually turning to feminism and going to extremes. I also realize the other side need to be openminded also and not so extreme.
When they said they were going deep, they meant it!
Keep this coming. We should have a lot of platforms where discussions like this are being made. Baarakallahu feekum ladies. Nice!
Like I always say to her, "I'm not pro feminism, but I appreciate women who speak up, and express themselves how they deem fit". I think every lady out there should watch this.
Sisters it’s both cultural and insecurity. Keep your heads high and look forward....
Going to binge watch starting at ep 1. Absolutely immediate subscription.
I’m so grateful and happy that I discovered this channel because everything you said is exactly how I think and see the world. Being a modern Muslim woman with a mentality and goals that don’t conform to our cultural expectations of the “perfect Muslimah” makes it really hard to practise the deen at peace and this channel makes me feel heard. thank you girls for this ❤️🥺
Keeping on shining.... your intelligence is much needed. Girls and women need your courage. May Allah continue to bless you ladies and protect you.
Lots and lots of love for all of you, especially my dear Umm Raiyaan ❤ This is so refreshing to listen to! Jazakunn Allahu khayr.
How can anybody hate on you women. Honestly can't understand it. Men are comfortable with the positions they have in our toxic cultures. They have no idea how it feels to have to carry the image of the whole family without having asked for it. There is a certain level of intellect someone has to aquire to be able to understand the conversations you women have. I honestly love these conversations! May Allah bless the three of you and reward you for your courage to speak up, ameen.
The satisfaction of being fully integrated and effectively being able to converse on this specific topic and the joy of being heard, acknowledge and feeling included as a whole of this topic, is the beautiful expression on sumaya's face,mashallah,really nice and inspiring to see and keen on seeing more episodes like this one where every single one of u ladies come across as 1 strong cohesive group!
Yes yes yes! Finally to get this dialogue started in the community! I think in the Muslim community today there is a lot of reform in unpacking topics that aren’t often talked about yet Feminism is one I’ve yet to hear and I think it’s because living in the Western World this whole “feminist” movement has confused Muslims and has led to a) not having this needed dialogue and b) a label to place on women who are speaking up on the issues on literally Rights Allah gave us. Loved this episode so much!
May Allah bless you ladies and the whole HTT production team and allow this conversation to be a starting place for lots of other platforms to address in the Muslim ummah-particularly for Muslims living in the West (but even the East too since Western ideologies are influencing non-western countries in many ways)
Epic episode as per usual. This platform and space you sister created, and the topics you bring to us is...GOLD-and frankly ahead of its time. May Allah reward all of your efforts, ease all of your difficulties and make your stance firm on what He loves.
I genuinely appreciate all of it!
I feel like spiritual shaming comes from a place of ego and pride, and it's not enjoining good and forbidding evil for the sake of Allah, and for that person to actually become better.
The topics for this season are so good! Good job ladies and beautiful as always.
I wish you had Arabic subtitles so my girls could see this.
Me too 💔
Great idea
yeah they should have better english ones (cc) and arabic cc too, so they can reach a wider audience inshallah
May The Almighty Allah grant you the endless blessings of what you are doing my sisters. As a Muslim man, and a mindset coach as well, I've learned that someone bringing you negative energy has nothing to do with who you are. It has everything to do with them. You can only serve out to the world what you have within. Keep on shining your light; it's guiding many. Once more, may Allah grant you barakah.
I love you sisters soooo much! I needed honesty talks and AlhmduLlilah I found this channel. Assalam aleykum from Russia!
Subhannallah! How coincidence is this!
I have been saying the same, speaking up for women's rights would help next women generations to not suffer.
Thank you so much sisters!
Soomaalidiina dibadda joogta liberalism iyo feminism baad ku waalateen. Pls don't come back, I'm begging you.
@@kashki1145 hhh walal! soomaaliya ayaan ku aqliyeestay ayada leena ku dhex noolahay, marka waxba magacyo ha noo bixin wixi qaldan waan wada aragnaahe aan wada saxno inta Alle ka cabsano oo xishoono. Mahadsanid
@@kashki1145 hhh naagaha qurbaha maskaxiyan, wax baa ka qaldan, xataa raga qaar, waana wax yaabaha soomaalida Africa joogta dad qurbaha doqomo ayeey u arkaan 😝
I'm so Excited for this one 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
We need more of these talks
I hope this gets more views than the vid on intimacy from season 1... This is beautiful in everyway wallah!
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You should have more followers! Healthy conversations from day 1!
I think this has been one of my favourite videos. I feel like allll the previous videos somehow fit into this one. My mind was rushing through commentary each time one of you bought a point. A very honest, brutal and current topic which affects every single one of us regardless of our gender. Brilliant job Ma shā Allāh Tabārak Allāh. Own these discussions and keep them coming my beauties. I would looove to see a panel discussion with a live audience; In shaa Allah something to think about for the future. These videos have come at the perfect time, may Allah accept all your efforts and may he always honour you all. 🌹
Thankyou so much for talking abt this topic ❤
Great video. Thank you for doing these videos and discussing these topics. You mentioned you don't believe "women are equal." What exactly do you mean? Could you expand on that? Also, you seem to consider feminism as an extreme label or a bad label but why so? Feminism is about being treated equally, about having the same opportunities, about not having to work 5 times more to arrive at a particular work position, about being paid the same salary for doing the same job. Why did I have the impression that you tried to avoid being labelled as a feminist? I would've liked to hear you actually discuss the topic of feminism, not just Muslim women being labelled as feminists. Thanks again :)
This was a great topic, I appreciate the angle/perspectives the sisters we’re communicating from, but I also feel they could have clarified why feminism doesn’t speak for us from an Islamic perspective. Whilst many facets of feminism are of course useful, commendable and needed, such as equal pay rights etc islam is wholesome for us and we believe our God given roles, rights and responsibilities have been defined in the most wholesome and healthiest of ways. We are biologically different, we strive for equity not equality. For instance some Islamic inheritance laws may seem advantageous to men, but when the mans responsibilities are taken into account, I.e. his wife, parents and sisters (who are unmarried) he is responsible for and required to provide for, then it makes sense why he inherits a greater portion. It isn’t a walk in the park, he will be held accountable. As a woman it is liberating for us to know that we are free from such accounting in the court of Allah swt in the hereafter, on the day we all shall be questioned.
This of course means that women and men, need financial literacy and education, to understand their roles as defined by the Quran and Hadith (sayings of the prophet)
The feminist narrative isn’t liberating, makes women who choose to stay at home feel useless and everything seems to be from a lens of defensiveness. Islam gives the woman choice, choice to work or not. Mother’s hold great respect, where there are many prophetic narrations, upholding and praising her role. Modern liberal capitalist societies have toppled and confused men and women. Where it seems men aren’t pulling their weight, are being stripped off their responsibilities... more men in the developed world are driven to suicide ... chivalry seems to be declining in an effort to emasculate the male population. We aren’t superwomen, we can’t play both the role of father and mother. We don’t desire a man-less world (from the perspective of extreme feminists) we need strong, supportive responsible men. We don’t want a society full of single mothers and absent fathers (an unfortunate growing trend in the west)
I’m not sure if you saw the recent controversial bbc interview with the journalist asking the newly appointed muslim female leader of the mcb(muslim council of Britain) if there were any female Imams I.e. female prayer leaders. It was a stupid question and made the questioner seem ignorant, pathetic and plain rude. Well we believe there are many reasons and much wisdom behind why women can’t be an imam. Women go through periods of menstruation, child birth etc it’s a huge responsibility and requires effort (5X a day) whilst women can lead female worshippers. leading both sexes isn’t permissible within the parameters of islam and we take full acknowledgement and pride in such guidelines. We want fellow muslim brothers to lead us, upholding our rights and their own. A certain feminist (like the journalist, ironically questioning a fellow woman in a humiliating way, instead of congratulating her in her new role, caused a mockery of herself by that line of questioning) would see this from a judging lens, calling it out as patriarchy and misogyny. We as muslim women call it chivalry and a capable man’s duty. Also the role of an imam is unlike the role of a scholar, mufti or “priest” (roles that countless women take on within Islamic spheres and circles)
Women scholarship is deep rooted in the history of islam, look up sheikh Akram nadawi’s book al-muhaddithat, a complete study of muslim female scholars from the advent of islam, a history of 1000s of women who studied, taught and engaged in Islamic discourse and education. We are not in need of feminism, but need our Islamic way of life to be upheld and reclaimed. Our creator knows us better than we know ourselves, and He Allah swt has shown us the correct path through the Qur’an. May Allah swt guide us all to the truth and correct path
You have some really good questions. With all due respect to these wonderful ladies, a lot of Muslims treat the word 'feminist' like a slur. Why? What's so bad about it? Is there a worldwide issue of millions of men being oppressed by feminists? No? I didn't think so.
@@purplecosmos5431 That's true, and it's not only some Muslims. I hear so many people say, "oh no I'm not a feminist, I like men" or "I don't think we should repeat history again and do what we did with women but with men; we shouldn't forget about men's rights.. (!?). People tend to fear feminism and have a lot of prejudice about it, thinking that it's about stepping on men's rights. We shouldn't reject this movement, we need it. We should rather support change these prejudices...
@@lynm7890 The way I think of it is- if someone thinks believing in equality and safety for women is impinging on men's rights somehow, then they really, really need to reexamine what they think men's rights are. I know it's a catchphrase and everything but 'Women's rights are human rights' really does say it all. We're not demanding something special. We're working for woman to have basic human rights. That is what makes a feminist, and I'm proud to be one. No one can take the meaning of that word away from me because they're offended by their perception of it.
@@purplecosmos5431 You're absolutely right. Very well said. Women's rights are human rights. I am also a proud feminist, and so should any decent human being be.
This was a great topic, I appreciate the angle/perspective the sisters we’re communicating from, but I also feel they could have clarified why feminism doesn’t speak for us from an Islamic perspective. Whilst many facets of feminism are of course useful, commendable and needed, such as equal pay rights, safety in the work place, etc islam is wholesome for us and we believe our God given roles, rights and responsibilities have been defined in the most wholesome and healthiest of ways.
We are biologically different, we strive for equity not equality.
For instance some Islamic inheritance laws may seem advantageous to men, but when the mans responsibilities are taken into account, I.e. his wife, parents and sisters (who are unmarried) he is responsible for and required to provide for, then it makes sense why he inherits a greater portion. It isn’t a walk in the park, he will be held accountable. As a woman it is liberating for us to know that we are free from such accounting in the court of Allah swt in the hereafter, on the day we all shall be questioned.
This of course means that women and men, need financial literacy and education. To understand all things money related, so as to ensure that no injustices are carried out, both intentionally and unintentionally. To understand our roles as defined by the Quran and Hadith (sayings of the prophet)
The feminist narrative isn’t liberating, makes women who choose to stay at home feel useless and everything seems to be from a lens of defensiveness. (Like it’s ok to go out topless, grow unhygienic hair and go to extreme lengths and alter you biology!! ! Naaah we don’t want that!) Islam gives the woman choice, choice to work or not. Mother’s hold great respect, where there are many prophetic narrations, upholding and praising her role. Modern liberal capitalist societies have toppled and confused men and women. Where it seems men aren’t pulling their weight, are being stripped off their responsibilities... more men in the developed world are driven to suicide ... chivalry seems to be declining in an effort to emasculate the male population. We aren’t superwomen, we can’t play both the role of father and mother. We don’t desire a man-less world (from the perspective of extreme feminists) we need strong, supportive responsible men. We don’t want a society full of single mothers and absent fathers (an unfortunate growing trend in the west)
The recent controversial bbc interview with the journalist asking the newly appointed muslim female leader of the mcb(muslim council of Britain) asking whether there were any female Imams I.e. female prayer leaders; was a stupid question and made the questioner seem ignorant, pathetic and plain rude. Well we believe there are many reasons and much wisdom behind why women can’t be an imam. Women go through periods of menstruation, child birth etc it’s a huge responsibility and requires effort (5X a day) whilst women can lead female worshippers. leading both sexes isn’t permissible within the parameters of islam and we take full acknowledgement and pride in such guidelines. We want fellow muslim brothers to lead us, upholding our rights and their own. A certain feminist (like the journalist, ironically questioning a fellow woman in a humiliating way, instead of congratulating her in her new role, caused a mockery of herself by that line of questioning) would see this from a judging lens, calling it out as patriarchy and misogyny. We as muslim women call it chivalry and a capable man’s duty. Also the role of an imam is unlike the role of a scholar, mufti or “priest” (roles that countless women take on within Islamic spheres and circles)
Women scholarship is deep rooted in the history of islam, look up sheikh Akram nadawi’s book al-muhaddithat, a complete study of muslim female scholars from the advent of islam, a history of 1000s of women who studied, taught and engaged in Islamic discourse and education. We are not in need of feminism, but need our Islamic way of life to be upheld and reclaimed. Our creator knows us better than we know ourselves, and He Allah swt has shown us the correct path through the Qur’an. May Allah swt guide us all to the truth and correct path
You can have traces of feminism without claiming to be one
The same way some of the sahaba had traces of jahilya in them when they were about to fight over some tribalism issues....
We only have to check our behavior and always contrast what we say and do with Quran and sunnah
None of us are guarantee to go to jannah we have to strive for it
May Allah azawajell guide us
I don't understand why being labeled as a feminist is a bad thing? Yes Allah gave us our rights, but let's be real, the actual application of our rights has come from feminists fighting for them, especially living in western countries and even now in muslim majority countries too.
I may not agree with everything about feminism but it's not a religion, you don't have to take it all or leave it all. We're all fighting for the same thing at the end of the day, the betterment of women everywhere. That being said, great episode jazakom allah khairan.
@@hamaidmk ISIS also project a wrong image of islam, do we stop calling ourselves muslims to dissociate? the point is there will always be extremes and extremists, doesn't mean i throw away the whole thing
@@raghadrihan6387 the word feminist and its roots are rooted in individualism, and some of their views and opinions directly contradict Islam and Islamic values. i think it is better to say woman rights activist because it means fighting to practice the rights given to us by Allah swt
ASA
Please continue speaking and expressing your opinions. Matter you are discussing are worth discussing and need to change. You will find some who do agree, some who disagree and some like me in the middle depending on what is being said but that should not discourage you. Everyone should be adult enough to discuss a topic and respect each other opinions.
Feminism just like anything has it’s good and bad. Take the good and leave the bad but to use that to insult people is not ok but what do I know loll
It's 2021, people these women are our mothers, sisters, daughters and wifes. We have to respect them as the prophet swl order us to do it.
I think you have all right to that sisters macha Allah. Keep doing please 🙏🙏🙏
Can't wait for the next episode! Jazakum Allah Khayran!
You women inspire so many of us especially as a revert. You have given us a voice which doesn’t seem to come up much. Also men seem very hypocritical when they talk about us? If it’s for the sake of the religion and Allah and to make our relationships better then what is the issue on both ends?
We can't fix the issues our ummah is facing if we keep sweeping them under the rug. Spot on! Yaa Allah make better our affairs and allow us to return to how we once were a beacon of light of justice and etiquette for the rest of the world 🤲🏻
what we have in our oummah are called "Misogynistic Puritan", female misoginy, which is the worst misogyny. The Misogynistic Puritan takes the ideal woman to be domestic, subservient, nurturing, kind, mild-tempered, alluring, youthful, and pure. She has adopted this feminine ideal from her misogynistic husband, family or acquaintances. She takes herself to be pretty darn close to the feminine ideal. She is subservient, always standing behind her man as a solid pillar of support. She hates women who deviate from the feminine ideal and takes it to be her life's mission to find ways to discipline them and ultimately get them on the "right track, a submissive and holier-than-thou housewife.
@@Connect_with_Yourself may Allah make it easy on you, guide you and provide for you a righteous pious husband that understands the deen sister amina.
You actually consider how Islam taught women to be women as misogyny actually.
@homo erectus we wuz kangs exactly what I’m saying. She is considering the way Islam taught women to be women as misogyny.
Hadith
أَخْبَرَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا اللَّيْثُ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَجْلاَنَ، عَنْ سَعِيدٍ الْمَقْبُرِيِّ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، قَالَ قِيلَ لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَىُّ النِّسَاءِ خَيْرٌ قَالَ
الَّتِي تَسُرُّهُ إِذَا نَظَرَ وَتُطِيعُهُ إِذَا أَمَرَ وَلاَ تُخَالِفُهُ فِي نَفْسِهَا وَمَالِهَا بِمَا يَكْرَهُ "
It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: "It was said to the Messenger of Allah: 'Which woman is best?' He said: 'The one who makes him happy when he looks at her, obeys him when he commands her, and she does not go against his wishes with regard to herself nor her wealth.'"
Hasan (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasaa'i 3231
In-book : Book 26, Hadith 36
@@kanizfatima1377 you are coming up with stuffs nobody even mentioned.
This was so inspiring thank you and please continue your podcast we are all benefiting from it.
Love these talks, so nice to see how well spoken these ladies are, very inspirational
Three brilliant women. Here I am nodding at every word of theirs, like yes sisters!
Thank my Muslimah sisters you really help me today, you guys mentioned the things that I think about . You brought tears and happiness at the same time.
Thank you for all the amazing work that your doing, enlightening us and empowering us to talk honestly about the good, bad and the ugly.
This episode was just fantastic!!
I do have one request, however; alot if people might not see what's wrong with being a feminist; I tend to get into this debate often where I disagree with Muslims needing to be feminists as well simply because we have all our rights given to us over a thousand years ago!
So I would appreciate if you would mention the reason for that first before continuing with current issues.
Again, thank you so much! You are role models to me! ❤❤
I already liked it before watching ! 😂😂😂
However i love your videos. Even this one despite some differences of opinion, i know that i learn alot from you ladies. Thank you for existing!
Thank you for bringing this out in the open👍
Great program, keep sharing plz.💜
I love when LaYinka said Gheera, I think it would be a nice topic. Kudos all 3 of you.
You are a great job sisters...macha Allah. Please keep doing it and don't listen to negative people. May Allah Almighty bless you 🙏🙏🙏
The issue is there is no balance...we're empowering our girls and immasculating our boys. We DO NOT have the right role models for our boys which is why we have such problems in the community. What does a real Muslim MAN look like? A man who is a provider, a leader? why aren't woman's rights being met? Why are we expecting soft men to be strong and respectful all of a sudden?That's the real conversation we need. Let's bring Gabriel Al Romani, Abu American and the T3M boys to give their perspective. Break the intergenerational trauma by empowering our boys.