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  • @FandomWireOfficial
    @FandomWireOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +5

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  • @thealphaomega4888
    @thealphaomega4888 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Both BvS extended cut and JL Snyder’s 4 hour legit version are what we all deserved in the theaters and are legit superb.

    • @Motivation_Editz07
      @Motivation_Editz07 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where can i watch BvS Ultimate Edition?

    • @lune-3214
      @lune-3214 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Motivation_Editz07 fmovi(e)(s)(.)to

    • @Iamthatguy194
      @Iamthatguy194 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Motivation_Editz07 um in max

  • @dogwaterjoe3783
    @dogwaterjoe3783 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Dawn of Justice Ultimate cut is the best comic book movie I've ever seen

    • @spectrexr1
      @spectrexr1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Agreed

    • @GEMINIEARTHWALKER
      @GEMINIEARTHWALKER 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think that the Ultimate Cut of Watchmen just edges it out, but barely.

    • @spectrexr1
      @spectrexr1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GEMINIEARTHWALKER that was a good movie and that cut was good. Id still go with bvs but I c why u say it edges it out a little

    • @resevoirdog
      @resevoirdog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Better than Sam raimis Spidermans 1&2? Better than the Deadpool movies? Better than Infiniti war ? Idk man I get that it's okay but definitely not the best

    • @dogwaterjoe3783
      @dogwaterjoe3783 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@resevoirdog it's all personal opinion.

  • @pjpatron
    @pjpatron ปีที่แล้ว +52

    In time Man of Steel Batman V Superman Dawn of Justice UE and Zack Snyder’s Justice League will be regarded as comic book film classics.

  • @tmac731
    @tmac731 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I loved BVS and the 3 hour edition makes it even better. People just hate what they don’t understand

  • @jorgecortinhal7654
    @jorgecortinhal7654 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Batman v Superman Ultimate Edition is, for me, a work of art ❤❤
    Greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹

    • @FandomWireOfficial
      @FandomWireOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching!

    • @Just_a_Lad
      @Just_a_Lad ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I totally agree man

    • @leopereira6101
      @leopereira6101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Eu adoro a trilogia do Zack snyder,e BvS é mesmo arte em seu estado puro, é um crime o que este director sofreu ,e não deixarem completar sua visão épica...depois da trilogia do Nolan eles,a Warner , queria o mesmo para seu principal superheroi o Superman,e o que Zack e Nolan fizeram foi precisamente entregar um Superman realista mas as ganancias do sucesso da Marvel fez com que o estúdio realmente ficasse confuso ao ponto de abandonar sua premissa inicial....uma pena

    • @EduFabolous
      @EduFabolous 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Epah, homens de cultura por aqui kkk

  • @_1n54n3
    @_1n54n3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    One of the best CBM! Every piece of dialogue out of it was quotable

  • @joshuaryan1539
    @joshuaryan1539 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I’ll admit I want a big fan of Batman v Superman at first. But after watching the extended cut in Blu Ray, I really liked it.

  • @briane596able
    @briane596able ปีที่แล้ว +24

    So the theatrical cut gave the impression Snyder was trying to glorify an out of control Batman where as the UE version, rightfully shows Bruce’s fault; while still remaining sympathetic.
    WB again (which is the movie business) places money over narrative, but refuses to take any responsibility for they’re actions

    • @power279
      @power279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they will never accepts their own fault sadly.

  • @MustachedMovieMan
    @MustachedMovieMan ปีที่แล้ว +27

    BvS - Ultimate Edition is worth the revisit.
    Great video :)

  • @33brothr
    @33brothr ปีที่แล้ว +16

    ahead of it's time

  • @tangomango2459
    @tangomango2459 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I was blown away the first time I saw this in theaters. Love it even more today. One of the best movies of the 21st century in my opinion

  • @LN-Lifer
    @LN-Lifer ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Everyone misunderstands the "Martha" scene. Batman did not let up because their moms had "the same name"
    The familiarity of the name is simply what gave him pause. The reason he let up is that he realized that even though SM was about to die all he cared about was his mother. It humanized SM and BM realized he was wrong.
    It's really not that difficult to figure out. All the mocking of the scene just shows how stupid and simple-minded most people are

    • @darianstarfrog
      @darianstarfrog ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly.. that's humans for you..infinitely frustrating to live with..

    • @Just_a_Lad
      @Just_a_Lad ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep, but people are dumb and would like to play dumb and mock anything.

    • @LN-Lifer
      @LN-Lifer ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Just_a_Lad
      And thinking themselves smart even as they do so

    • @MovieMatrix_11
      @MovieMatrix_11 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think, Batman stopped killing Superman when he heard..... Martha.....not because of the reason you mentioned but he remembered his childhood scene where Bruce Wayne was helpless to his mother....Martha, when Thomas Wayne wanted to save Martha...@@darianstarfrog

  • @StratosVr
    @StratosVr ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I recall leaving the theater with a bittersweet taste. It had a lot of things I liked but felt really rough on editing and some things didn't quite make sense. Enter ultimate edition which is now (in my book of course) one of the best CBMs ever made. One can only imagine what would happen if the wise (sic) executives of WB, allowed UE version to hit theaters!

  • @pedromota4497
    @pedromota4497 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I regard it as a masterpiece.

  • @KGBeast.
    @KGBeast. ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's Underrated Fr

  • @bagofbarbies126
    @bagofbarbies126 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    BvS:UE is better than the dark knight

    • @jorgecortinhal7654
      @jorgecortinhal7654 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's definitely more interesting in terms of ideias, ideologies and vision, as well as in visuals and character building

    • @FandomWireOfficial
      @FandomWireOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jorgecortinhal7654 Agreed but not necessarily better. That's a tall order.

    • @hashira910
      @hashira910 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now I wouldn't go that far, and this is coming from a guy who sleeps while listening to BvS UE on audio mode.
      TDK is still untouchable to this day, but sure BvS UE is the closest to it.

    • @andreyzhuchkov1882
      @andreyzhuchkov1882 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hashira910 well to be fair, why do people like TDK so much ? isn't it because of the Joker if we're completely honest at the end of the day? Why people might like BvS, i think the first commenter summed it up pretty well and i might add that a more compelling Bruce/Batman, Clark/Superman, even Lex in this iteration has smth very interesting to say.

    • @davemiller6055
      @davemiller6055 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn straight.

  • @gwynbleidd07
    @gwynbleidd07 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    it is masterpiece. Classic for ages!

  • @Patrick-eo8vm
    @Patrick-eo8vm ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loved batman vs superman. Affleck may not be the best batman ever, but leaps and bounds over Bale.

  • @ohstate411
    @ohstate411 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'll die on the hill that BVS Ultimate Edition is a really good movie. Hell, my wife who dislikes most comic book movies loves this movie.

  • @BradiKal61
    @BradiKal61 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When the fanboys first heard that Ben Affleck would play Batman they went crazy saying he would ruin the character. After the movie was relased suddenly nobody was complaining about Affleck because he was the dark brooding Farnk Miller Batman we alway wanted.
    The Ultimate edition cut did exactly what this video said, it filled in the holes and fleshed out the plot with vital details

  • @roccomarra4741
    @roccomarra4741 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This movie will age like fine wine, I think it will get the revenge of the sith treatment

  • @Just_a_Lad
    @Just_a_Lad ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm sick of super hero movies, but BvS was a beath of fresh air, a lot different than what we were used to watch, a lot different to Marvel movies in particular. Darker, serious, tensed, intriguing, somewhat unpredictable. I liked the theathrical version, I didn't mind that they didn't explain everything, there's a a bit of a mistery in that, as for the Ultimate edition I loved it. I believe that there was an unfair threatment coming from the critics and Marvel fans towards this movie, I don't know why, whether it was a simply kiddo argument between BvS and CA CW or whether it was an anti-campaign against BvS I don't know, but some of the people I went to the cinema with already formed their mind because of several scenes like the Martha scene, which they clearly didn't understand completely, but they prefer to bash it just for the sake of it. Other people didn't understand some parts and in such cases you know that people often don't like what they don't understand. Others didn't like it because it was not funny and they expected a Marvel movie with jokes and funny moments. I knew what to expect and I was not disappointed, it was great. I own it on Bluray and still watch it every now and then and it amazes me how good this movie is despite being 7-8y old already. It's not exactly a masterpiece but it's not far from that either.

  • @Make_Shift13
    @Make_Shift13 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I thought the original release was only alright but had too many types of stories going on. I also didn’t like having a young Superman fight an old experienced Batman. The Ultimate Edition made me actually love the movie a lot more and appreciate it.

  • @tylerhall2760
    @tylerhall2760 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn't see BVS until the Ultimate Cut was out, so I had heard all the compliments, etc., but I absolutely loved it! Consider it be one of the beat CBM out there

  • @davemiller6055
    @davemiller6055 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The theatrical release of Dawn of Justice is a great film. I was shocked that some people didn't like it. I loved it. The UE is even better. BvS:UE is my favorite comic film.

  • @Gamer16232
    @Gamer16232 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember watching it in theaters and being disappointed. It felt rushed and unfinished. A few years later i watch it on HBO max and i loved it. I didn’t realize it was the “ultimate edition”. I didn’t know what was different. All i knew was that I liked it. If WB would stop having these “ultimate editions” or “snyder cuts” they could be doing so much better. Release what the director wants to release!

  • @Neethan3247
    @Neethan3247 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am still hoping for a continuation of this universe.

  • @bossman9873
    @bossman9873 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gets better every time.

  • @lexio9913
    @lexio9913 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This film just gets better with time.
    It’s such a huge shame Snyder didn’t get to compete his Justice League saga so we 😢could have seen the conclusion the story for all the members of the Justice League.
    Well played WB, the stupidest studio in Hollywood.

  • @CO2Giger
    @CO2Giger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video!!!

  • @Esmoure
    @Esmoure ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I too didn't like it at first but then I got it on 4k and I fell in love with it. It is now one of my fav superhero movies. I typically don't like hero vs hero stuff.

  • @SNH2099
    @SNH2099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BvS UE is a masterpiece ❤️

  • @filmescombrian
    @filmescombrian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love this movie.

  • @Paul-bl9pg
    @Paul-bl9pg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LOVED BvS UE!!!!!!! One of my favorite CBMs!

  • @christianalexander579
    @christianalexander579 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked both versions but the extended was better

  • @gatekeeperboxing5898
    @gatekeeperboxing5898 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 - Bloodsport
    2 - Ratcatcher 2
    3 - Harley Quinn
    4 - Rick Flag
    5 - Savant
    6 - Peacemaker
    7 - King Shark
    8 - Weasel
    9 - Amanda Waller
    10 - Polka Dot Man

  • @Taohe_Netrus
    @Taohe_Netrus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BvS was for me a masterpiece even in standard version, but this 30 min made it even better. All 3 movies made by Snyder create really good written intrigue which deserved for continuation to let us fully understand and appreciate whole Snyder's plan :)

  • @gameragodzilla
    @gameragodzilla ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I thought the theatrical cut was a barely comprehensible mess (albeit with still good action scenes) while the Ultimate Edition fleshed out all the plot beats and really made it a great movie. I only became a fan of BvS after that version released. Jeremy Jahns put it best in his review of the Ultimate Edition. While Terminator 2's theatrical cut and director's cut both work, as do LOTR, BvS just couldn't work with half an hour of runtime shaved off its story. Could say that the vision was too ambitious for its own good, but nevertheless the 3 hour actual cut is a genuinely great movie. Definitely see a lot of parallels to Watchmen, though with a more reconstructive bent.

  • @Nic_03_21
    @Nic_03_21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think many people were too quick to bash this film and rather than trying to get an understanding about it, they instead joined the band wagon on hating. I also think that it’s because they were expecting it to be like a Marvel film with quips and light hearted jokes, but realistically, it’s not supposed to be. The uniqueness of BvS is honestly why I love it so much and it deserves more credit it deserves than what people are willing to give. The Ultimate Edition is undoubtedly a masterpiece and I’m glad some people are praising it.

  • @thepsychedelicmystic2003
    @thepsychedelicmystic2003 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t think we’ll ever get a comic book film as ambitious as Dawn of Justice (Ultimate Edition) was. Into and Across the Spider-Verse did come close though

  • @lancewolfe5620
    @lancewolfe5620 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Totally agree with your analysis the ultimate edition is a great watch and completely erases the theatrical cut for me

  • @notasloudr2807
    @notasloudr2807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, I liked it. Clark was getting wayyyyyy too cocky, and it was actually fun to see Bruce take him down and realize, yes, a mere human can kick his super butt. I also sometimes think that if Joker and Luther worked together in live action, it would be really nasty

  • @LuciferMorningstar-zu1ud
    @LuciferMorningstar-zu1ud 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BvS is a masterpiece. I’ve loved it since it first came out. Love the extended cut even more. I didn’t understand the hate and backlash. Ok maybe lex luthor wasn’t the greatest casting, but overall it was so much better than most MCU films. That’s a fact. Now that the film has simmered down, everyone is praising it. Just like most phenomenal films, like fight club for example, were not loved right away. Now, they’re classics.

    • @primevalyautja1305
      @primevalyautja1305 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I too Love Batman v Superman also I'm a Huge fan of the Legend of spyro trilogy

  • @VitchAndVorty
    @VitchAndVorty 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After what happened to MCU, I am damn sure that DCU was trying their best and not trying to half-ass it. At least Zack was trying his hardest.
    Newer MCU stuff is a joke.

  • @leopereira6101
    @leopereira6101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love all zacks trilogy,and its a desrespct what they've donne to the director and all the crew...warner did a big mistake in not let zack finish his vision ...imagine zack with the studio the plan well organized cause never fells the others dceu were conected in some way to the main snyderverse,and that was a warner fault in not support their own directors,and was the begining of the fanbase fellapart..love bvs ue,is one of the greatest cbms ever donne,i consider the ultimate edition a cult clássic,in time is getting much more respect and consideration among the fans cause was not to touch the general audiences but directly to the fandom,and dont speack about the lack of accuracy cause Zack really did an awsome homework bringing a more humanized,grounded ,realistic take on This characters that already was presented in the comics

  • @meowbauh
    @meowbauh 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    watched a lot, i mean a lot of people watching(reacting) on yt and none of them have a problems, even the marvel fans liked it, problem is and will always be WB

  • @Mextlatec
    @Mextlatec ปีที่แล้ว

    The studio wanted to show the movie more so they cut 30 minutes that's why it doesn't make sense for the theatrical film, an example would be when in the second trailer you see Doomsday and people complain that it showed too much but Zack Snyder said there was more to come and in the ultimate edition you get a glimpse of Steppenwolf

  • @davemiller6055
    @davemiller6055 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The DCEU failed when the studio abandoned it. Had they stayed the course they would have been fine. BvS is a good film, even in the theatrical version. The first 6 films in the DCEU made $4.9 billion. The first 6 MCU films made $3.8 billion and the MCU was fine. WB panicked. Aquaman made $1.1 billion AFTER the Justice League debacle. People were still interested. Even Shazam was good and made a little money. It was the move towards BOP and such that killed the DCEU, not JL, and certainly not BvS.

  • @mitch4672
    @mitch4672 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is why in my opinion zack snyder is a very good film maker. But it's the medling of studios that F up most of his works.
    The first time i watched this flic. Was the extended edition, and i thought it was a hell of a film.
    It goes to show for example in the courtroom bombing scene, in the short one Kal just cowers out and flees, but in the extended one, he goes out of his way to help everyone, tries to save survivors and is visibly hurt and shaken by it.
    In my mind BvS is a masterpiece.
    Studios just need to stop screwing their people over. You hire a film artist, Then let them do their F-ing job.
    Just stop restricting them, wrecking their works and reputations in the process...

  • @showtime11080
    @showtime11080 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still don’t like it primarily because of it being a rushed attempt to introduce the DCEU and set up justice league at the expense of a great foundation story that was being developed for Superman. These heroes needed their own films to further develop their characters to a point where fans are invested in them.

  • @kingDavidsPodcast135
    @kingDavidsPodcast135 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BvS the Ultimate Edition let’s not lie to ourselves is the Best Superhero Movie to exist
    If you actually watch movies you’ll know this is true
    Jesus ! This movie was and is Good Jesus!!
    It’s Zack’s Best work till date

    • @primevalyautja1305
      @primevalyautja1305 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I too Love Batman v Superman also I'm a Huge fan of the Legend of spyro trilogy

  • @firstnamelastname42069
    @firstnamelastname42069 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ultimate edition is great. So is snyder cut.

  • @LuisSanchez-by7mh
    @LuisSanchez-by7mh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When people say the ultimate cut is better because it’s Snyder’s true vision I call bullshit on. I’m not defending the studio that is WB nor I’m defending Snyder. I think that there is evidence of studios meddling with filmmakers visions that end up doing quite well in the box office and has appeal from both critics and fans. The Lord of the ring all three of them are at least almost and over 4 hours long in the extended cut and the theatrical cut on those films even work and were well received. James Cameron’s Avatar had a theatrical cut that was well received at the time and the extended cut was better received as well. It’s because they’re well told stories. The extended cut in BVS only fixes the pacing issues from the theatrical cut it doesn’t change the story in any way, it’s still Snyder’s work and vision for that story.

  • @michaeljoyce6766
    @michaeljoyce6766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was made fun of for calling it a masterpiece. Like really? Different opinions are just not aloud ever are they?

  • @domymbd
    @domymbd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s not a perfect movie, but it’s far from being one of the worst

  • @donavanclarkdirector
    @donavanclarkdirector 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recenty watched the Dark Knight followed by BvS. The things that makes it so divisive is its story and the way its told. Its written in a round about way, orbiting rhe core of the plot instead of just landing on it, creating a dull, sometimes confusing, affair. The fact that it even needed an extended cut tells more about its flaws than anything else.

    • @Paul-bm1so
      @Paul-bm1so 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The extended cut was the original cut. The studio wanted to reduce running time and cut out a bunch of stuff for the theatrical cut, resulting in a less nuanced, more confusing narrative.

  • @qwanathomas735
    @qwanathomas735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the problem with this Movie was the concept of Batman having a chance in hell against Superman. Doesn't matter how good a movie it is this concept made it ridiculous, especially to older Superman fans who are fully aware of his capabilities. Let's face it if Superman had beef with Batman he could see his every movement, hear his every word, rendering Batman's every plan useless. Superman can literally turn back the clock. The best thing about this movie is Batman's slow powerful calculated fighting style, which I was happy to see incorporated into the Patterson version of The Batman.

    • @Just_a_Lad
      @Just_a_Lad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Superman is not always perfect, he makes bad judgements as well or misses something every now and then. And he also didn't want to kill Batman, so this gave him time and a fair chance.

    • @MovieMatrix_11
      @MovieMatrix_11 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But, you accepted the concept of the joker having chances against Batman just because there are no killing rules of Batman ???

  • @jsavak99
    @jsavak99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jessie Eisenberg CASTING RUINED what could have been a good film. It deserved to FAIL . no way he is believable as Lex Luther, he came across as Pee Wee Herman

    • @BradiKal61
      @BradiKal61 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that Luthor wasn't fleshed out as much as the heroes but he was an attempt to update rhe character as a boy wonder tech industry genius with Steve Jobs energy

  • @DjSsaBackward
    @DjSsaBackward 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All previous commenters are either huge Snyder fans or huge DC fans. As just a fan of comic book movies, I'm not impressed.
    I enjoyed MoS, I enjoyed the Snyder Cut. I wanted a JL2 and possibly 3. Still, BvS Ultimate or no, was a messy and stupid movie. The things that made it bad were not corrected. Even if it could be fixed, it would need more than 30+ minutes runtime.

  • @leodouskyron5671
    @leodouskyron5671 ปีที่แล้ว

    The movie still sucks. Enter the spiderverse did better with a lot more to introduce in 140 minutes!

  • @Thrawns_Office
    @Thrawns_Office 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You think it's better than Snyder's Justice League?