The Original Plans for the Snyderverse

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  • Taking a look at what Zack Snyder's Justice League sequels and Snyderverse would have been like had it not been canceled.
    ⏱️TIMESTAMPS⏱️
    0:00 Intro
    0:21 Darkseid
    1:13 Justice League Part 2
    3:35 Green Lantern
    4:36 Justice League Part 3
    6:28 Love Triangle
    7:23 Original Snyderverse Plans
    7:49 Cyborg
    8:18 Flashpoint
    9:35 What Went Wrong?
    10:57 Henry Cavill
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  • @StillWater757
    @StillWater757 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +952

    The true villain of the DCEU was always Warner Brothers

    • @apkk5594
      @apkk5594 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      I'm not sure I would agree with you. The end goal might sound great but you have to be able to build up to it. The missteps before JL are the issue to me. Retconning man of steel into the synderverse was probably not a great idea and was a mediocre film. BvS was also mediocre as well. He needed is Iron Man and did not have one. As per the video, they had already lost faith in him. Hopefully Gunn has the ability that synder lacked.

    • @talariswatts-el9196
      @talariswatts-el9196 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I agree, the true villains were brothers. If they didn't rush into JL so they can compete with Marvel and took their time in building a universe it could've worked.

    • @matthewgaudet4064
      @matthewgaudet4064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@talariswatts-el9196 , should have made a Superman sequel and Ben Affleck's Batman. And the Wonder Woman movie before they all united in Justice League.

    • @hameedakhtar6358
      @hameedakhtar6358 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The true VILLAIN of JUSTICE LEAGUE is one DIRECTOR who forcefully add his vision on already established characters

    • @hameedakhtar6358
      @hameedakhtar6358 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@matthewgaudet4064 ZACK SNYDER show that JUSTICE LEAGUE is nothing without SUPERMAN. There are total depend on SUPERMAN. and SUPERMAN is also villain of JUSTICE LEAGUE who want to kill CYBORG and FLASH without any reason

  • @Cian66
    @Cian66 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +385

    Reverse Flash pulling the strings of everything just to torment Barry would've been the most in-character thing any of these people did

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agreed

    • @ross3986
      @ross3986 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For real. Bro just wants to make Barry as much as possible 😂

  • @Omar-wq9dz
    @Omar-wq9dz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1320

    DC already had a shared universe before the MCU. It’s called the DCAU, and it’s perfect

    • @PaganMinDNW
      @PaganMinDNW 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      Marvel had an animated universe running at the same time

    • @philliprosewood7049
      @philliprosewood7049 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      On God

    • @RetroBacon1
      @RetroBacon1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      For children yeah

    • @Sportycoolja
      @Sportycoolja 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      marvel also did it before the DCAU with the spiderman 1994 universe but yes

    • @Isaacisaperson4677
      @Isaacisaperson4677 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      have you even seen it@@RetroBacon1

  • @BenjiJayGeeJay
    @BenjiJayGeeJay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +722

    Something I’m sad we never got to see was Flashpoint Batman portrayed by Jeffery Dean Morgan, alongside Lauren Cohan’s Joker. They were brilliantly cast as Bruce’s parents in BvS, perfectly setting them up for these characters

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      When I saw him in BvS (knowing the rumors about a Flashpoint movie) I was really excited to see what Snyder would do with him. I feel like Flashpoint is the kind of movie he should direct.

    • @BenjiJayGeeJay
      @BenjiJayGeeJay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@kingofhearts3185 as much I think that the actors are unfortunately probably past the point of wanting to do it, I’d adore it for Snyder to make Flashpoint

    • @carlosrvra
      @carlosrvra 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I get WHY they got Keaton, and I can't be mad at it, but JDM just FEELS like a more believable older Batman, and I would have LOVED to have seen that too!

    • @BenjiJayGeeJay
      @BenjiJayGeeJay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@carlosrvra I get the feeling Morgan would not play Batman for just anybody, and it would need to be something completely different. He must have been interested in Snyder’s vision and the story of Flashpoint Batman

    • @Quet723
      @Quet723 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah flashpoint is sumn Snyder should direct and have someone write tho

  • @rodrigomarcondes5857
    @rodrigomarcondes5857 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +526

    I completely disagree with Snyder's vision on these superheroes, but i also think what WB did to him is horrible and he doesn't deserve the mistreatment when so much was out of his control

    • @snoweverywhere
      @snoweverywhere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      It sure sounds like WB told him "you're THE guy!" And then realized "oh. We don't like this guy or any of his ideas. He's NOT The Guy".

    • @GreenPeelEL34
      @GreenPeelEL34 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      He stole a hard drive and sicked his mouthbreather fans on reporters with death threats. He got what was coming.

    • @dinmavric5504
      @dinmavric5504 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      @@GreenPeelEL34 Yeah he didn't do any of that. Cry about it though

    • @optimusrexprime3087
      @optimusrexprime3087 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@GreenPeelEL34what absolute bollocks.

    • @Channeleven2345789
      @Channeleven2345789 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A simple “I hate Zack Snyder and disagree with his ideas.” Would’ve sufficed. Otherwise you suck as bad as his fanboys.

  •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    I think Znyder + a good writer would have been a great combo for the justice league trilogy

    • @chimpo961
      @chimpo961 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It wasn't going to work out either way, since WB wanted young audience to see their favorite heroes on the big screen

    • @hameedakhtar6358
      @hameedakhtar6358 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you must check RABAL MOON 🌙

    • @codyman5540
      @codyman5540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@chimpo961 I mean, they wanted to cut more comic-book characters for HUMOR.
      We not gonna forget about Superman being itchy and the concept of Brunch? XD

    • @danielcampbell2607
      @danielcampbell2607 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yh just no weird love triangle shit

    • @LoganMiracle-ym5pj
      @LoganMiracle-ym5pj 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Snyder didn't write his movies great writers wrote his dc movies... now all Snyder has when he writes his movies is fantastic action, decent visuals, cool cinematography, and maybe one or two cool character moments... which makes no sense, as I actually really like Army of the Dead.... but I kinda like the Rebel Moon movie still....

  • @Ultriac301
    @Ultriac301 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +544

    Yet another proof of how out of touch the WB executives are. The MCU didn't succeed because of the stupid jokes but thanks to years of " world building " and character development but what else could we expect from the people who gave us Batman & Robin?

    • @kramandeggs
      @kramandeggs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      A couple kids parrot their mothers on a daytime talk show and WB shits their pants

    • @nalday2534
      @nalday2534 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Character development is when the main character funds for drone warfare programs on 3 seperate occasions, all Leading to disastrous results... such great writing

    • @MOCguy1
      @MOCguy1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But they *NEEDED* the World Building since Not Everyone Knows the Marvel Characters as Well as They Know The DC Characters

    • @apkk5594
      @apkk5594 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ​@@MOCguy1you can apply the same argument to DC as well. Yes, people know of batman and superman but the other characters need proper introductions as well. If DC thought the same as you it was arrogance on their part.

    • @tangerinetech5300
      @tangerinetech5300 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I mean did you even listen to that garbage justice league pitch Snyder had for an orginal trilogy or whatever the love triangle between Lois lane batman and superman sounds like garbage batman dying sounds awful the illegitimate bat son just being taken to the batcave by superman and Lois 20 years later also sounds terrible. Wb executives made the right call shooting that down.

  • @Omar-wq9dz
    @Omar-wq9dz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

    Speaking of Justice League, I really wish the 2011 Will Beall script Ben Affleck was offered to direct was online. The script’s story is online, but not the actual script. It sounds really good and would make a good What Could Have Been video

    • @theunbeatable6598
      @theunbeatable6598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Link?

    • @Omar-wq9dz
      @Omar-wq9dz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you look at sources like The Wrap, you can read the premise. Just type ‘Will Beall Justice League script’ in Google

    • @TridentLandStudios
      @TridentLandStudios 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You mean the Arkham movie? Omg that movie sounded incredible

    • @scottblanco5991
      @scottblanco5991 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s sounds interesting

    • @filmgoblin5016
      @filmgoblin5016 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      that and George Millers JL mortal. WB had so many chances to do a dc cinematic universe over the years and they just kept screwing them up.

  • @grizzlo7300
    @grizzlo7300 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +359

    Im not a "Snyder fan" and i was a fan of the MCU prior to endgame but i definitely enjoyed The Justice League Snydercut.

    • @TheShockVox
      @TheShockVox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Ditto. Not a Snyder fan at all, and I have problems with most of his movies. But the Snyder cut was the only movie I felt that touched what DC could be….until it keeps going with the future vision and the Martian Manhunter bit. If it stopped before it became so masturbatory, I might’ve loved it even.

    • @phillyvoodoo
      @phillyvoodoo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      That could never have been a theatrical film though..... There is no room in a cinema for a 4 hour movie

    • @Joecbg100
      @Joecbg100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I went in with low expectations and liked it very much, what he got down was the scale of the invasion and the League's might. Top DCEU. Next to
      Shazam, MoS, WW, Aquaman and The Suicide Squad.

    • @loselot6044
      @loselot6044 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm not a Snyder fan either... but I didn't like the Snyder cut, I just want a story about an actually good Batman and Superman where they don't just instantly screw the other one's wife or turn evil, or have Batman kill causing a whole crowd of people who think Batman uses guns and kills people

    • @anttoz4989
      @anttoz4989 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea u said it perfectly

  • @chakenbacon
    @chakenbacon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +157

    ZS is an amazing visual film maker. He knows the best art director, costume design, and set design. He knows how to get the best shots, make these heroes look good… but the guy can’t write a solid story or character development to save his life.
    I honestly believe these movies would’ve done a lot better if they just tried to set themselves apart from MCU. Instead of showing superhero’s in our modern day. The JL would’ve fit a lot better in the 40’s/50’s, or 70’s. Make their costumes look like Alex Ross’s artwork, classic. Set the universe in the silver age of comics.

    • @JohnJo-qn7wq
      @JohnJo-qn7wq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Iwl they would be a laughing stock if they do that

    • @BingeGamer69
      @BingeGamer69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah no they wouldn't @@JohnJo-qn7wq

    • @loselot6044
      @loselot6044 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I mean, Snyder said he doesn't like Superman... I don't know why they let him write Superman that's just a set up for failure

    • @suezcontours6653
      @suezcontours6653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@loselot6044Exactly. Why do Snyder fans ignore this detail about Zack Snyder. His Henry Cavill Superman didn't connect with general audiences and he wanted to CUCKHOLD Superman

    • @alpacapines8553
      @alpacapines8553 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@suezcontours6653because just like Snyder, they aren't actual comic fans. And if they claim they are, youbknow they only have a small collection of Elseworld stories.

  • @OvertheHedge06
    @OvertheHedge06 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    A.... a nuke kills Darkseid

    • @petrspetsnaz630
      @petrspetsnaz630 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      To be fair he got beaten up pretty badly during his first invasion on Earth. Also most of adaptations do show him loosing from heavy punches of Superman

  • @GhostofCerberus
    @GhostofCerberus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    never understood why studios want so much 'comedy' that is legitimately one of the main things that killed comic book movies.

    • @AgentGodzillaRP1
      @AgentGodzillaRP1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Blame Whedon, Gunn, and Taika

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Comedy can be balanced. We didn't immediately go from something like Winter Soldier to Love and Thunder. I don't like too much comedy either but ZS wanted the DCEU to be soulless like Watchmen. All grey and dark for no reason

    • @LoganMiracle-ym5pj
      @LoganMiracle-ym5pj 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@richborn6700 He did balance it with The Snyder Cut. I love the Snyder Cut.

  • @Kevo6492
    @Kevo6492 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    Love triangle between Bruce, Clark, and Lois sounds absolutely horrible. The thing about the DCEU is yeah WB did no favors in helping it succeed but honestly Zack's ideas were also just awful.

    • @keithpace9870
      @keithpace9870 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Very awful. I like the Superman and Batman connection in the animated movie for example where some of the heroes are working for Lex, but Superman and Batman won't cause they know Lex hasn't changed. Two scenes for instance stand out with their friendship. The one where Superman has a Kryptonite bullet in him and having to deal with Metallo. Batman tries to get it out , Superman makes a joke. Batman says do me a favor lose the humor, Superman replies do me a favor and buy one. Through out the movie they have each other's backs. Also scene where Superman grabs Lex telling him he basically just set Batman to his death blasting the rocket ship he is in and says that was my best friend. Moments like that and through the Justice League animated series, there is a mutual respect between them. To do a movie where Clark is gone, Bruce gives in to feelings for her and hooks up with her is horrible. Bruce has had plenty of love interests he could have pursued, plus in the comics he is a good looking wealthy man. He could get a woman easily. He don't need to get freaky with his best friends woman.

    • @handphone77
      @handphone77 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You sound like you enjoy the Batman Batgirl affair in DCAU.

    • @Kevo6492
      @Kevo6492 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@handphone77 Why would I enjoy that if I wouldn’t enjoy this love triangle huh?

    • @kentrelltv9449
      @kentrelltv9449 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Kevo6492the Bruce & Lois thing was never gonna happen it was a scrapped idea
      Lois is literally pregnant with Clark’s child in ZSJL

    • @Kevo6492
      @Kevo6492 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@kentrelltv9449 I didn’t say it happened though? I’m criticizing the idea?

  • @Deathstroke4200
    @Deathstroke4200 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    The biggest injustice done to the fan's is we never got Affleck solo Batman. Dealing with his rogues Deathstroke and Joker would've been pretty good if done correct. Under Affleck's directing it would've been awesome.

    • @torneyes
      @torneyes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      “Injustice” lol

  • @classicsonicthewild6051
    @classicsonicthewild6051 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Fun Fact: Charlie Hunnam, Dylan Minnette And Aaron Taylor-Johnson Were All Considered For The Role Of The Flash Before Ezra Miller Was Cast

    • @TheBlindFighter
      @TheBlindFighter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Aaron Taylor Johnson Is Already The Flash

    • @QNPMEDIA
      @QNPMEDIA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      All of these would have been better

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Aaron Taylor Johnson would have been hilarious, but in all seriousness Charlie Hunnam seems like a good pick.

    • @_JellyWalker
      @_JellyWalker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Charlie Hunnam seems like Green Arrow to me.

    • @washgaming5825
      @washgaming5825 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Aaron Taylor Johnson could’ve been amazing. But WB went with Ezra. What a waste.

  • @retromacman620
    @retromacman620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Not always a fan of Snyder, but I like some of these ideas and I do feel like, as usual, a version of these films that was more in line with Snyders vision, with more minimal notes outside, would have been better than what we got. Giving him full control would have been flawed for sure, but the studio did not make the right moves, by any means.

  • @_JellyWalker
    @_JellyWalker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    I don't think this will ever happen, but I would love to read this story as oversized hardcover OGNs with page layouts by Snyder, dialogue script by Chris Terrio, and painted artwork by Lee Bermejo.

    • @Joecbg100
      @Joecbg100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Lee....there's someone online i think his name is Dustin Massey, he does Lee-like work and he's big into makin DCEU art and he's constantly pushing out stuff on Batfleck, SuperCavill and even Adam. Look him up.

    • @akilbrazier1421
      @akilbrazier1421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Imo what they should do is just make the rest of the Snyderverse animated tbh

  • @arthurpope7429
    @arthurpope7429 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    The biggest what if in cinematic history

  • @everythingkumo1041
    @everythingkumo1041 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The thing nobody ever mentions about BvS is that one of the things that definitely killed the movie in its egg is when they revealed Doomsday in the trailer. Definitely could have been a great twist to discover while watching the movie. No, show everything all the time is the marketing motto of the last 10 years.

    • @DanielAbraham-nn2jb
      @DanielAbraham-nn2jb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah those trailers spoiled everything

  • @ChristianPierce
    @ChristianPierce 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    my fav channel on youtube right now, thanks for your great work the views are coming im sure

  • @stsolomon618
    @stsolomon618 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    I truly believe that if WB adapted a live action DCAU, it would have been a success. They should have hired Bruce Timm.

    • @numberjuan469
      @numberjuan469 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      fuck no. keep his batman/batgirl ideas shit away from dc

    • @Cotygeek
      @Cotygeek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Paul Dini should certainly be in the mix.

    • @Michael-th9ti
      @Michael-th9ti 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      And Paul Dini. And keep Bruce Timm away from Batgirl

    • @aaroneclipse514
      @aaroneclipse514 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The same guy who shipped Batman and Batgirl? Hell no.

    • @grbhighlights9401
      @grbhighlights9401 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually James Gunn has stated multiple times that DCAU is the blueprint for the DCU

  • @HighFlyingEYE
    @HighFlyingEYE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    I was never a fan of Jared Leto's joker but that one scene at the end of ZSJL totally redeemed him in my eyes it's just a shame we're never gonna get another sequel

    • @suezcontours6653
      @suezcontours6653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's a fever dream at this point

  • @justinsmalls7600
    @justinsmalls7600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    With the way Snyder films are still talked about and debated (no matter which side you’re on) so many years after release, can you imagine the kind of impact the JL trilogy would’ve had? Batman sacrificing himself for the League, Superman uniting the armies of Earth? It would’ve been a sight to behold

    • @StylishGaz
      @StylishGaz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Nah lmao BvS was ass and Justice League was bad as well. It had zero chance of making it that far. Snyder just isn't a good storyteller.

    • @filmgoblin5016
      @filmgoblin5016 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@StylishGazno it did cus the bvs Ue and ZSJL were actually good movies. James Gunns dcu ain’t to go far after Superman legacy flops.

    • @justinsmalls7600
      @justinsmalls7600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@StylishGaz thanks for proving my point man, great teamwork

    • @brucardi
      @brucardi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StylishGaz🤡

    • @emanuelsonJnr
      @emanuelsonJnr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@filmgoblin5016 You will eat your words come July, 2025 when David Corenswet drops a masterclass performance & the movie hit, you Snyder cultist.
      "We'll be there no matter what" - Pep Guardiola.

  • @peterparker9214
    @peterparker9214 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    This tells you everything that’s wrong with Hollywood today. Studio executives who think they know what we want say “avengers have a few jokes, that must be why everyone liked it…give the barking seals comedy!”
    They destroy a good directors creative vision for some mainstream bullshit they think we want. We lost out huge not seeing the 3 part snyderverse justice league. The story is so riveting I would love to see it.

    • @dragonrings14
      @dragonrings14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Given how bad every Snyder film was in the DCEU and since the DCEU, I think WB were incredibly smart not to let him keep going. Almost every movie lost the studio money. Could you imagine losing hundreds of millions and then saying "well wait till I've finished my artistic vision because people will love it".

    • @talariswatts-el9196
      @talariswatts-el9196 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The blame goes to both Snyder and WB. BVS could've been good if WB understood what fans wanted. Someone at WB should've told Snyder that Superman needs to smile, gives us a better Lex Luthor, scrap Doomsday, no forced JL set up and a better script. Buy that's problem WB executives didn't know anything about comics they just know the avengers made a billion dollars. Because no comic book fan would've allowed BVS to hit theaters without first making those changes.

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dragonrings14Shit take is shit. 🤷 Army of Dead was VERY well received, and we haven't really even seen his new SciFi movie yet, but just some mangled studio mandated PG-13 husk of ass that Snyder obviously only shat out because he was contractually obligated to. Also, you're fucking drunk and/or lying out your f*cking ASS about the movies all losing money!!! Batman V. Superman was HUGE at the box office with nearly a trillion in gross revenue (≈$900 million on a ≈$200-$300 million budget). And Man of Steel wasn't a massive success, but it definitely didn't lose money. 🤷

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@talariswatts-el9196Batman V. Superman was actually generally shockingly well received by the pop culture & comic nerds. It was mostly everyone else that didn't like it. And while not great or anything, the VASTLY IMPROVED Director's Cut is a totally solid movie though. 🤷 Also, Jesse Eisenberg was a GREAT Lex Luther. He's one of the better parts about those interesting but very flawed films.

    • @talariswatts-el9196
      @talariswatts-el9196 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Cooe. but everyone else is what really matters. I'm a comic book fan too but you have to make a movie like this mainstream. A random dream sequence with Batman fighting Parademons and Superman being under the control of Darkside is completely lost to the mainstream audience. I think that's part of the problem.

  • @iamatn3317
    @iamatn3317 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And this is why DC will never get on their feet, WB has no idea what they want

  • @jamestolbert1856
    @jamestolbert1856 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Yeah I would’ve a problem with the love triangle thing cause it would be too weird. Batman isn’t in love with Lois, he’s in love with Diana, Selina, Talia, and many others. Otherwise he’s not looking for a relationship

    • @nikunjdixit3225
      @nikunjdixit3225 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It would have been very weird but I don’t think the issue is Bruce being in love with Lois. This version of Batman would have only had one solo Batman movie and it’s not like Snyder was going for comic accuracy in his films. But the whole Lois being pregnant with Bruce’s baby would have caused an outrage amongst Superman fans for sure.

    • @kevin10001
      @kevin10001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nikunjdixit3225it’s not like Bruce and Lois haven’t dated n the past cause in the Batman Superman adventures on kids wb that served as the final seasons of both Batman the animated series and Superman the animated series Lois dated Bruce Wayne abut broke up with him after finding out he was Batman during there altercation with the joker’s robot cause she couldn’t handle him being Batman at the end of the plot

    • @nikunjdixit3225
      @nikunjdixit3225 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kevin10001 Yeah, but they dated for like two or three episodes. And it was fairly clear that it wasn’t going anywhere. Having Lois be pregnant with Bruce’s child is a different level which would have caused outrage among Superman fans.

    • @kevin10001
      @kevin10001 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nikunjdixit3225 not me and I’m a Superman fan for years

  • @MatthiasPowerbomb
    @MatthiasPowerbomb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I wanted the Snyderverse to be completed so bad. The plot outline sounds like it would've been the most epic thing ever.

  • @moonlightillari
    @moonlightillari 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love every time you use that Power Rangers Ooze scene 😂

  • @cinemaarts8795
    @cinemaarts8795 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This would've been absolutly wild but I remember at one point during the development of ONE version of the Flash, Will Farrell was rumored to be in consideration for Reverse-Flash

  • @ColorOfExcellence
    @ColorOfExcellence 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    😂😂😂 The love triangle from pearl harbor!

  • @regonik
    @regonik 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Riddler solving the anti life equation and blowing his head off?😂😂
    This looks like MelBrooksverse 😂

  • @detroitdiezel7856
    @detroitdiezel7856 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I'm in the minority of people who enjoyed BvS (for the most part) and Zack Snyder's Justice League. These other films mentioned here, sounded even better to me! I especially liked Ray Fisher's take on Cyborg and was hoping to see him get his own solo movie.

    • @gajofixe76
      @gajofixe76 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      BvS was disappointing but most people really loved Zack Snyder’s Justice League, we should have gotten the sequel.

  • @davids9520
    @davids9520 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The MCU was built from the foundation to the pent house. The Snyder-verse was built with the pent house first. The foundation and the the rest of the story was left to nothing, with no support for the pent house. Eventually the foundation collapsed in the DCEU. The MCU is repeating its formula and is running into its own problems. We will see what happens next with both the DCU and the MCU.

  • @feanol22
    @feanol22 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The problem with Snyderverse was not the story but the writing.

    • @johnotto-wl2yh
      @johnotto-wl2yh 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Everything really.

  • @ikmnification5737
    @ikmnification5737 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That original plan seems a lot more like the interconnected DC animated films; maybe someday after they've got a "yay" or "nah" on the success of the Gunnverse, they'll take Snyder's original idea and make a three part animated film. I could see them trying to milk the fandom of the Snyderverse one more time, and maybe directing an animated project could be up Snyder's alley. Get the original cast to do VA and I think Waner Bros would see enough dollar signs to green light it.

  • @nickfromohio6032
    @nickfromohio6032 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Reverse Flash being the final boss would have been great.

  • @joebro391
    @joebro391 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think all could have been averted if WB had just released BvS, closer to what became the Ultimate Edition. The Ultimate Edition is incredible and it could have been enough for the Snyderverse to move forward as planned.

    • @kevin10001
      @kevin10001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually liked the theatrical version better cause to me the ultimate edition even though it’s not bad felt like a video game walkthrough cause it spelled out the plot more for the average audience who couldn’t tell lex was the driving force of the movie’s plot and I didn’t like Jimmy Olsen being a throw away character as a code name for a government agent

    • @joebro391
      @joebro391 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kevin10001 I honestly expected the real Jimmy Olsen to show up at the end of the movie, just to show that the agent that was killed was just using his identity

  • @diefty94
    @diefty94 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yikes. I knew Snyder didn't like Superman but it didn't expect him to have Batman literally cuck him.

  • @cc_films
    @cc_films 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    The ending of Zach Snyder's cut in the future made me so excited even though I knew we'd never see it in this timeline

  • @uosdwiSrdewoH
    @uosdwiSrdewoH 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think what they did to him was abhorrent when instead of stopping to change direction and admit they made a mistake they tried to do an end run around the creative process and made things so much worse. Having said that you will never convince me that Snyder was the right choice for this series. His 'Watchmen' was great but that should have been all the evidence you need that Snyder should never have tried to make a traditional superhero movie. It's not where his interest lies.

  • @galactica1981
    @galactica1981 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Some interesting ideas, but having Batman and Lois Lane hook up seems a little too far out there. I'm curious to know if Warner wanted a humorous approach from the very beginning. If so, why did they hire Snyder? Humor is definitely not his strong suit. But the biggest lesson here is that panic moves almost never work. Trying to abruptly reverse course with the Justice League film and go with a lighter tone was a disaster.

    • @kevlopz3374
      @kevlopz3374 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They actually wanted to stay as far away from a light tone as they could after Superman Returns performed poorly. They wanted Nolan to do with Superman what he did with Batman, but he had no interest and recommended Snyder after loving his Watchmen.
      Even then, it was meant to be a one and done with Snyder with maybe being involved in Man of Steel 2, but then Avengers happened, WB wanted that money too, so they enticed him with going all out with full creative control and well it sadly went poorly for everyone.
      As someone who became a fan of Snyder in my youth with his Dawn remake, I was really confused he was picked to spearhead DC. I was optimistic, but not surprised with the results. I am happy he's doing his own thing and that DC can get another shot with Gunn.

    • @kevlopz3374
      @kevlopz3374 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You know, thinking about it some more your last statement hits like a truck, WB shoots itself on the foot with panic move after panic move and it's been like that since Reeve's Superman, Keaton's Batman, and more with the ONLY exception being Nolan's trilogy.

  • @cheezyygoku
    @cheezyygoku 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Bruce Kent 🤣

  • @Rosskiernan_
    @Rosskiernan_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It just sounded excellent can't believe they didn't make this the money this vision would have made

  • @ganumon1984
    @ganumon1984 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The worst part of the SnyderVerse is definitely hiring Jose Whedon to do reshoots for Justice League and the Ezra Miller Allegations. With James Gunn’s upcoming DCU, I’m looking forward to seeing Superman: Legacy and I know it would fix the mistakes Man of Steel and I really didn’t like how the SnyderVerse portrayed Superman even if Henry Cavill was a great casting choice for the character. For Batman, I’m really satisfied with Robert Pattinson portraying the character and I’m looking forward to seeing the future of Battinson and I personally want him to be a part of the new DCU even if it’s in the DC Elseworlds Slate. Plus, I don’t mind another actor playing DCU Batman, but I still prefer Battinson as my Main Modern Movie Batman.

    • @donnae1899
      @donnae1899 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Gunnverse will flop!

    • @johnotto-wl2yh
      @johnotto-wl2yh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠just like the SNYDERVERSE 🤣

  • @blueskwall
    @blueskwall 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In the era of dominant streaming services, I am confident we will eventually see a Zack Snyder Justice League 2 & 3 as a miniseries. Warner Bros. would be leaving incredible piles of cash on the table. The marketing/hype would be incredible.

  • @barney7822
    @barney7822 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I hope James Gunn helps DC to take over this decade
    Because I'm sick of the MCU
    But I also hope that he takes it seriously too, because I'll be damned if it has the same comedic tone of the MCU

    • @jacobyrassilon
      @jacobyrassilon หลายเดือนก่อน

      James Gunn is going to fail hard and the DCU will be DOA. Not all of that will be Gunn's fault because WB execs are the absolute the worst in the business, but Gunn just doesn't have the chops to helm an entire Universe.

  • @Pellude
    @Pellude 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The original plan was stupid af. Lois with Bruce’s child? That’s disgusting

  • @chris.shamblin
    @chris.shamblin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I really wish we could have gotten this version of the DCEU. I appreciate that Snyder was able to make something so different from the MCU, and that storyline and vision really needed to be finished.

    • @MrJJDIZZLE23
      @MrJJDIZZLE23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This story is so stupid and all over the place and has no comic book inspiration at all

    • @EmperorGuyver
      @EmperorGuyver 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MrJJDIZZLE23 And the MCU does ? 😂😂

    • @MrJJDIZZLE23
      @MrJJDIZZLE23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @EmperorGuyver yes it went on for 10 years and endgame its ending made over a billion dollars and I hate marvel, the DCU with gunn already seems it'd better then whatever this is

    • @EmperorGuyver
      @EmperorGuyver 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MrJJDIZZLE23 You mfs act like they were flawless in those 10 years. Ppl seem to forget they had trash in every phase...
      And also that wasnt my point, my point is that the MCU has no comic inspiration.. it was never accurate and made dumb decisions. For someone who hates Marvel you sure tried to shield them pretty hard
      And Gunn has made the same thing for 10 years, since GOTG everything was just like it.. his DCU will be trash

    • @MrJJDIZZLE23
      @MrJJDIZZLE23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @EmperorGuyver Looking at your channel and videos and weird comments you definitely give serial killer, sex offender type vibes so maybe you should work on getting help on your demons 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @MrDrewseph
    @MrDrewseph 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bring on the reboot
    Happy to see the end of the snyder stuff

  • @freshparkfilms
    @freshparkfilms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I Always love hearing about this original plan for JL wish we got to see it ,maybe one day 😅 lol who knows hahaha this one YT channel did a mini movie using Ai art to make part 2&3 and they were really good if u search for it you can find it! I highly recommend it! also have you done a video on Chris Farley version on Cable Guy? or that cursed script that Farley was supposed to do but died being the 3rd actor attached that died tragicly? I know John Candy was one and think Bulushi was the other was curious if you done one on any of that 😊 congrats on another awesome video!

  • @ascubis2511
    @ascubis2511 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey @Bulletsandblockbusters it’s me again 😅 I wanted to just say I have LOVED your videos and ever since watching this one I have gone back and watched nearly all of your other ones! They are what the kids call BANGERS (hope I’m using that right).
    The way you have an upbeat voice while also always being articulate creates a great atmosphere, I applaud you for your high quality videos and I wish you nothing but the absolute best for your future! Thank you for making these videos and I look for all that is to come in the future!
    -Michael

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow, thank you for the extremely kind words. Really appreciate it and thrilled you love the content!

  • @Antonio_Ortiz
    @Antonio_Ortiz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Even after following all the twists and turns in the development of the Snyderverse, finally hearing how all the plot threads would've connected in Justice League 2 and 3 has scratched a 10-year itch for me. That would've been awesome.

  • @EndoScorpion
    @EndoScorpion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    WB executives are the biggest villains in the story of the DCEU.
    They're the ones who hired the writer and director of The Dark Knight Trilogy (to write and exec. produce MoS), and wanted it to have a similar tone - thus why it's dark and gloomy.
    They're the ones who, despite MoS being a success, panicked because it didn't make Avengers levels of money, and rushed to introduce Batman instead of giving us the planned MoS2.
    The WB execs were the ones who cut 30 mins of the runtime of BvS so they could screen more showings in an attempt to get more money, but ultimately ruined the movie instead, meaning less people wanted to watch it. Thus why the directors cut is heralded as being far far better.
    They're the ones who screwed over David Ayer and butchered his movie, turning it into a glorified music video.
    They screwed over Zack Synder every step of the way. And no where is it more obvious than the cringingly gross Josstice Leauge and the infinitely better Snyder Cut.
    I'm not going to pretend Snyder's takes on these characters are perfect. Just want to point out he does get way too much hate and blame for what happened. When most of the time he was following orders from WB execs. And movies like MoS and BvS he didn't even write. People always seem to forget the guy who wrote Nolan's Batman movies is the guy who wrote MoS and co-wrote BvS. Snyder's writing credits are on the first WW movie and his own Justice League film. And credit where credit is due, that movie did a great job with Cyborg and Flash in particular.
    Now we have the sequel to the DCEU.... James Gunn's DCU.... where he is the villain.

  • @dperez398
    @dperez398 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is hands down one of the best channels on TH-cam for my money. Love your work and hope to see the videos continue coming for a long time.

  • @theflash9767
    @theflash9767 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Zack Snyder's darker, more intricate take on the DC Extended Universe sparked a debate about how much freedom a director should have versus studio needs. His unique style, though it had its fans, clashed with Warner Bros.' desire for a lighter, more commercially appealing direction, reminiscent of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This tug-of-war between artistic vision and mass appeal suggests that maybe Snyder's DCEU could have thrived as an 'Elseworlds' series, allowing him to explore his ideas freely without the pressure of fitting into a larger universe.
    It's important for studios to know when to step in and when to let directors be. Warner Bros. intervening in "Wonder Woman 1984" or changing Snyder's controversial Batman-Lane plotline was probably for the best. But too much interference, as seen in "Justice League" post-Snyder, can strip a film of its creative essence. The DCEU's mixed bag of successes and missteps shows that while studios should aim for hits, they also need to respect a director's creative vision. The sweet spot is in balancing unique directorial voices with the broader cinematic universe's goals, ensuring both artistic depth and audience appeal.

  • @kodakkevin
    @kodakkevin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As much as I appreciate Snyder's proposed sequels, they are riddled with inaccuracies like Darkseid being killed by a nuke?....DARKSEID....A superman level threat....being killed by a man-made nuke? WTF

  • @omeganeoz
    @omeganeoz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    NAH THAT LOVE TRIANGLE THING IS THE WORST IDEA EVER WTF

  • @justinhall754
    @justinhall754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    For better or worse, sounds like this is what happens when you get the dude that directed Watchmen to do a Justice league franchise

    • @aaroneclipse514
      @aaroneclipse514 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is this Zack Snyder's fault exactly? He was hired to do a job, he did it, but Warner Brother's obsession with Marvel led to the catastrophic failure.

    • @KekoBass
      @KekoBass 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@aaroneclipse514 This. They told Zack "Hey make a cinematic universe" just to panic and go "WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT" after a movie and a half.

    • @justinhall754
      @justinhall754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaroneclipse514 Didn't say it was his fault. He did it in his style, and Watchmen was a good example of that style. WB seemed like they didn't know what page they were on till way late

    • @aaroneclipse514
      @aaroneclipse514 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@justinhall754 Ah, well okay that makes sense.

    • @detroitdiezel7856
      @detroitdiezel7856 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I loved "Watchmen"!

  • @donottaptheglass5515
    @donottaptheglass5515 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    WB deserves a lot of flack for the way the DCEU turned out, but this video also confirms to me that Snyder is just a bad fan fiction writer, and I don't particularly mind that we never saw his full vision come to fruition.

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the amazing video ❤

  • @srami004
    @srami004 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    BvS didn’t work because of this rush to get all the characters out there. Time should’ve been give to allow characters to develop and interact with each other

    • @davidanderson4748
      @davidanderson4748 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Also it didn’t work because it was boring and stupid.

    • @hungnguyenquang7247
      @hungnguyenquang7247 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the reason dceu was ruin because wb and other company want to copy the mcu

    • @randynguyen9778
      @randynguyen9778 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Actually it wasn't rushed the audience were too dumb at the time.

    • @bofawhatsbofa4593
      @bofawhatsbofa4593 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yet Gunn is literally doing the SAME thing in his first film for the franchise and all the shills are sucking him off for it

    • @carlzune6626
      @carlzune6626 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      THIS!! Exactly this... The snyderverse was flawed from the beggining, we should have had a at least 4 solo movies before BVS, the way it presents all the characters through camera videos was very... anticlimatic. I'm not saying Snyder is bad, however this universe needed more work from the beggining, if things were done right, we would be watching JL2, WW3, BATMAN 2, MAN OF STEEL 3, GREEN LANTERN, THE FLASH 2. however everything went down the drain because of how uncommited they were to the whole universe and the incredible (yet not perfect) Snyder vision.

  • @matthewk122
    @matthewk122 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Warner Bro should let directors for their own version of their own movie

    • @streetcorpcast
      @streetcorpcast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      in all fairness, Marvel does the same thing. Directors end up walking away from MCU projects cause they want to something different and darker.

    • @ArchangelExile
      @ArchangelExile 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WB should let directors for their own version...

    • @detroitdiezel7856
      @detroitdiezel7856 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh?

  • @fabeo0050
    @fabeo0050 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is why James Gunn is the right man for Warner. Put some humor on those movies, without making then look ridiculous.

  • @Deathstroke4200
    @Deathstroke4200 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I know Snyder is not Nolan. But I wonder if they ever asked Nolan "Where's the joke's" probably because they realize DC characters like Batman aren't inherently funny like Iron Man. The reason I truly hate Josstice League is when Batman says "Something is definitely bruised/ bleeding"! That is not Batman or Bruce Wayne!

  • @JeffreyDeCristofaro
    @JeffreyDeCristofaro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Remember when "Superman Kills" used to be a mere SNL punchline? I miss that.

  • @kdizzle901
    @kdizzle901 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I know people hate Snyder but I really wanted to see the snyderverse from beginning to end….cuz all this sounds awesome

  • @kevin10001
    @kevin10001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I actually liked Snyder’s idea of showing Superman’s progression into the the hero we know him to be cause that’s something never really showed in live action or in animated form like in Superman the movie he is taken on a years long journey with the spirit of his biological father and when he returns to reality he automatically has the suit and his morals for example but if u pay attention to man of steel it’s not designed to be a full cinematic universe starter it actually meant to be a start of a new series of Superman movies and that’s the first problem cause when u make the decision to pivot to a full cinematic universe when your first movie doesn’t set that up that’s where in inconsistencies start to begin

  • @liambenson3872
    @liambenson3872 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The plot is just too convoluted and dark. Now we see the wreck that the MCU has become with the hundreds of character stories you have to watch just before the next show/film comes out, but it starts from a simple place. Every movie from Iron Man built to a point and added a step culminating at Endgame a decade later, whether this was adding a new character or revealing a plot point while or the time making Thanos legitimately seem like a threat to heroes. The Snyderverse was just like lets do two movies introduce heavy comic book plot points that every day fans have no idea about, shoot every scene in black and have Hans Zimmer remixes blast over it.

  • @Jetway
    @Jetway 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This is my favorite video you've done. Great summary and analysis of Snyder's plans -- I had never heard them presented so sequentially and coherently. I would have enjoyed seeing these movies as you described them, especially Superman's arc.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it

    • @suezcontours6653
      @suezcontours6653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BulletsandblockbustersI love Snyder visuals but he is not good storyteller. He should've been like an adviser and oversee the consistency like Kevin Feige

  • @automan224
    @automan224 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yeah can’t say we missed much
    Why Zack decided to overcomplicated things instead of keeping it simple I have no idea

  • @Headstash1080
    @Headstash1080 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love this channel man. You should make a "What Could Have Been" for Forrest Gump 2 in my opinion. I think you'd crush it.

  • @hegluj6796
    @hegluj6796 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just by seeing how Grayson was treated, erases my faith in this universe

    • @Mechasonicrocks
      @Mechasonicrocks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, here's more good news: James Gunn's DCU is skipping straight to Damian Wayne as Robin, because apparently that's James Gunn's favorite Robin from the entire comic book universe!

    • @jhonatansantana5701
      @jhonatansantana5701 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Mechasonicrocks Here's some even greater news: Now we can all see a fully fledged Nightwing in a movie instead of waiting 10 years for it!

    • @Mechasonicrocks
      @Mechasonicrocks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jhonatansantana5701 Is there even a “Nightwing” film on the slate for Gunn’s DCU? I prefer comic accuracy (Grayson progressing from “kid sidekick” to “his own man” was my all-time favorite character arcs in comics) as opposed to whatever the director prefers. But that’s just me. Also, I can’t stand Damian Wayne. What Gunn sees in that brat that makes him the “best Robin” is beyond me. Imo it’s a tie between Grayson and Tim Drake for best Robin.

    • @hegluj6796
      @hegluj6796 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MechasonicrocksWhile Damian being Robin isn’t ideal. Skipping development so everyone is at their prime is miles better than erasing them, just for cheap shock value.

    • @josef.ramoss.8457
      @josef.ramoss.8457 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Mechasonicrocksmore good news: Apparently he will be on Battinson sequel

  • @lovetodrawstufff3644
    @lovetodrawstufff3644 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bruce being the father of supermans baby and he kid becoming the new batman i van see why they were like yeah nah

  • @R1ch4d8
    @R1ch4d8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Even though I like the Snyder cut, I get why the studio would be like "We need to cut this down so much", but I do not get why Joss Whedon would even accept the job of reshooting like 85% of the film. What would he have gotten out of that?
    Whedon talked about how making Age of Ultron wore him down, how did re-filming another director's Justice League film sound any better?

    • @josef.ramoss.8457
      @josef.ramoss.8457 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bc he wanted to make a Batgirl film and JL was a "chance" to get WB approval

  • @christophersouza3159
    @christophersouza3159 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You ever gonna do videos on Men in Black II and X-Men Origins? I remember reading that the original versions for both movies were way different from the final product.

  • @THEDOOMHELLKNIGHT
    @THEDOOMHELLKNIGHT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Great video man
    Its a shame WB killed the snyderverse, ive would liked to see the other two JL movies and at least the Batman solo movie but thanks to your content now i know what could have been 😉

  • @somebuddyX
    @somebuddyX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm not a fan of the Snyderverse but what I find worse is studio interference and development hell and not getting that original completed story arc. I try to think of it like how I'm a fan of Dick Donner's Superman and I wish we'd got his original Superman II back in 1980.
    If you are interested, check out the DCEU Iceberg video. It is wild how many projects these nutjobs tried to get going instead of wondering if they were going to flood the market.

  • @thedoctimbo188
    @thedoctimbo188 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You should do a video about the development hell with Freddy Vs Jason and the sequel they wanted to make

    • @richardfowler381
      @richardfowler381 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Freddy Vs Jason was a joke and sucked big time Freddy is no match for Jason and that movie should never have seen the light of day....Freddy is plays mindgames and not the physical type....Jason on the other hand is BRUTE FORCE....& brute force SHOULD(in my eyes & in my opinion) be fought with brute force & there is only one other that is a match for Jason Voorhees...& that is Michael Myers...if people want to see or need a story in a movie....go watch 50 shades or whatever....BUT if u wanna see titans in the ULTIMATE slugfest then it wil be those two LEGENDARY movie maniacs tearing into each other & beating the "$H!T" out of each other...to put it clearly....but New Line Cinema & Dimension both companies DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE FANS they just care about money so that ICONIC HORROR MOVIE MANIACS will probably never share the BIG SCREEN together because of greedy corporate DiICKHEADS....So i guess it wil be "THE MOVIE WE WILL NEVER GET TO SEE.....A REAL REAL DAMN SHAME....

  • @omeganeoz
    @omeganeoz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man i really hope we sometime get to see either a full on snyderverse, an actual good connected DC universe and a good marvel universe on the big screens

  • @MiguelGarayStarty
    @MiguelGarayStarty 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what I don't really get, is why some fans want the Gunn universe to fail because the Snyderverse is over, Gunn doesn't have the fault for anything

  • @bingewatcherfanatic996
    @bingewatcherfanatic996 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Honestly I don't see how WarnerBrothers mistreated snyder. In any job place when you get the job you have to do the job right but once you decided on doing your own things like example how snyder said in a interview "in his movie batman can get raped in prison" you as a studio executive would immediately be like hold up bro treat the characters with respect. So it's understandable why WarnerBrothers immediately went to panic mode.

  • @dirtydan9457
    @dirtydan9457 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    WB wanted Avengers money without Avengers effort

  • @zayanything3124
    @zayanything3124 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WB biggest problem is themselves. They wanted the instant gratification and success of The MCU without putting in any of the work. They had 3 much more bankable characters than Iron Man, Captain America and Thor when starting the DCEU. Those Marvel characters were C to B tier characters but marvel still had faith and gave each one a solo film to build up to an Avengers movie while introducing side characters like BW & Hawkeye.
    A solo Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman film followed by Batman Vs. Superman then a Justice League movie was the bare minimum in terms of buildup. But too much meddling and instant gratification wanted by WB destroyed what could’ve been.
    Now they’re starting from scratch once again with less goodwill than they had 10 years ago.

  • @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
    @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Joss Whedon said he was burnt out from the Marvel execs telling him Avengers 2 had to be 'funny', set up Ragnarok, Civil War, the infinity war, etc...
    If I were WB, I'd have greenlit Joss Whedon to create his own Justice League movie, no strings, no mandates, just tell him to make the Avengers look like a saturday morning cartoon.
    Then get Snyder to consult on some action set pieces (the only thing I htink he can do well as shown by the warehouse fight scene).

    • @Joecbg100
      @Joecbg100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd be up for that in another timeline, Whedon knows his character work, or knew. This sorta killed his career along with allegations.

    • @dragonrings14
      @dragonrings14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What's sad is Whedon never wanted to take over for Snyder. He reluctantly accepted because of Snyder's daughter and that DC promised to let him make a Batgirl film. In the end though they didn't let him make Batgirl but made it themselves. A film so bad it is legally not allowed to be released to the public. I hope James Gunn considers giving Whedon a movie in his new universe.

    • @talariswatts-el9196
      @talariswatts-el9196 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Joss Weadon would've made a great film if he was able to make it from the ground up.

    • @MECHFILMS_
      @MECHFILMS_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dragonrings14 fucking why? he is a piece of shit? he was very clearly self sabotaging to fuck over DC because hes a marvel suckass? You really want him to be employed after every allegation? reconsider your fucking life holy shit

  • @brandonkays3005
    @brandonkays3005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I have such mixed feelings about “what could have been” as far as the Snyderverse goes. I thought Man of Steel was maybe one of the most boring movies I’ve ever watched, I thought BvS was unbelievably stupid (but still oddly entertaining thanks entirely to Affleck) and I thought the theatrical cut of Justice League was perhaps one of the worst things I’d ever watched. Yet, after viewing the Snyder cut, it admittedly left me wanting more because it was actually so much better than I could have ever expected. That’s not even the “low expectations” talking! It was genuinely a well crafted experience that left me engaged for the entirety of its massive runtime. It’s hard to say “the studio should have just trusted Snyder’s judgment” without knowing how much they influenced production of MoS and BvS (since those movies were not good) but I think the whole situation is an epic disappointment for all involved parties.

    • @asserspee
      @asserspee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You need to watch the Snyder cut\version of all three movies aa one big long 10 hour movie. Possibly in black & white as well, haha!

  • @Zarin_Tao
    @Zarin_Tao 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man this universe of DC by Snyder is way cooler than the lame version we got

  • @karlqualmann9891
    @karlqualmann9891 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That sounded so good but I feel the DC should maybe hold off on another superhero film for a while we been getting so many and they are getting worse and worse

  • @thetheorizermoore7476
    @thetheorizermoore7476 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really did want a Shazam black Adam crossover

  • @wesleykim6523
    @wesleykim6523 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As much as I dislike (maybe even closer to despising) Snyder’s versions of the Justice League, seeing those versions of the characters getting killed is what would’ve probably been a brutal fashion would’ve been interesting to see to say the least, even though it’s very mean spirited. I’m also glad that the “Batman and Lois Lane have a child together” idea was scrapped early into production, that idea is still gets stupider and stupider every time I hear about it. I also do find it really concerning that every executive in every studio, including those at Marvel itself, really thought that humor is what made the MCU successful.
    Making an edit cause I wanted to talk about this for a bit. REALLY?! A nuke is what would’ve done Darkseid?! REALLY?!?! I really hope this was a misreading of the original plans cause holy shit that is a LAME ASS ending for your ultimate COSMIC BIG BAD! That’s like having Frieza die by a self-destructing Raditz!

  • @ghjfhbb3319
    @ghjfhbb3319 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    U know whats more fck up? If they just had followed the original plan, the Snyder verse would have already ended and just at the same time to get the reboot. I know there’s flaws with that universe, hell I don’t even fully buy that Superman, but it was interesting and so different compared to marvel, what a shame.

  • @TChallaWayne
    @TChallaWayne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've watched videos on Snyder's plan many times, it didn't take that many to see that
    When you really get into the nuances of this batshit story you see just how detailed & thematically rich Snyder's vision was. And y'all can say whatever "I can do this all day 🛡️" lol His bold yet (Yes)accurate but bold interpretation of these characters was always incredible.
    The theme of ZSJL trilogy about how: Our Heroes will go through hell while literal demons to save one persons life.
    (Dr. Flashpoints fan made trailer helped me realize that).

  • @eoin1272
    @eoin1272 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If Snyder was given the reigns on an Injustice Series, I think we'd see his movies a lot more positively.
    I liked some of what he was trying, but he was the wrong person to lead a mainline DC Cinematic Universe

  • @filmescombrian
    @filmescombrian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Man, this would've been so cool. It breaks my heart that WB ruined everything and tanked this franchise. It could've been something really special.

  • @willhanson5627
    @willhanson5627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Imagine thinking "Oh! Well make Ben do Pearl Harbor again!" was actually a good idea.

  • @yummyfishfiletmmm1535
    @yummyfishfiletmmm1535 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The potential was so much we could’ve had an amazing dceu #Restorethesnyderverse

    • @AhamedMohammed507
      @AhamedMohammed507 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The Snyderverse is totally dead

    • @johnotto-wl2yh
      @johnotto-wl2yh 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s dead & buried. Get over it. 😂

  • @talariswatts-el9196
    @talariswatts-el9196 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem with the Snyderverse is that everything felt rushed. The MCU was successful because they had solo movies introducing the heroes and then teamed them up. A solid formula. If WB would've gave everyone a solo movie and then teamed them up for Justice League would've been better but intead they rushed everything.

  • @ResisterOfEvil
    @ResisterOfEvil 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sounds like a great story. I wish it had gone through.

  • @CharlieSheen943
    @CharlieSheen943 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Man of Steel is in the top five CBM's of all time easily.

  • @FenixGames3
    @FenixGames3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are so great - love all the research and details - thank you! I kind of wish we could have just seen Snyder's version all the way through. At least it would be have been a complete vision and then would be a reboot. This in-between we have now until Gunn's new stuff launches is such a waste.

  • @marcesmith6798
    @marcesmith6798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this. Can you please do David Goyers GREEN ARROW film SUPER MAX