We've had cinematic "downloadable content" since at least the theatrical re-release of Close Encounters of the Third Kind in 1980, and some movies, such as Blade Runner and Alexander, have so many available alternate cuts that it's easy to lose track of them, so surely Batman v Superman can be permitted at least one. The Ultimate Edition of BvS is the original cut of the movie before it was trimmed for theatrical release, and not all directors get the privilege of having their original cuts released to the public (see Josh Trank's Fant4stic for a recent example), so don't begrudge him the chance to have his movie judged in the form he intended.
M.A. Moreno I ain't giving Snyder shit. I'm giving WB shit. I heard people leaving the theater of Suicide Squad wondering if the extended cut will help give context to some of the characters that were missing.
Satire: The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues. The exact meaning I intended, and applied to Stewart's lines. It's something he would do.
Eric Dickson-Peppler Then perhaps I shouldn't have used "satire" in the sense. Humor, nonetheless. He wasn't being serious in regards to the situation.
Love how the movie is rated R just for one F bomb and showing Affleck naked from behind yet Days Of Future Past had literally both of these things and was still PG-13
I didn't see the Ultimate Cut, but perhaps there was more violence/action/blood that pushed it over the edge into R. Besides, having an "R-rated" edition that's so "Ultimate" would be good marketing to people who think "R-rated" somehow means "instantly better than PG-13 or lower" merely on the prospect of some curse words and nudity.
So I used to do film ratings for a film festival. Let me just say this. You had to be 18 years or older to even read the rating guidelines handbook, which spelled out examples of how each film element changes with a higher rating. And this edgelord piece of ultimate crap got a 14A in Canada (basically PG13). I've seen the criteria for an R rating. That's not happening here.
"This version touches more on the romantic relationship between Bruce and Alfred, an area where no other Batman movie has dared to tread." loooooooooooooool
I feel like the phrase “I don’t deserve you” isn’t specifically used for romantic relationships. Like ya I think 50% of the time it is used for that but other times it’s for family, friends, or maybe your car after a long day and it’s the only thing you can rely on
I can accept that Lex figured out Clark Kent is Superman. Lois Lane did that based on rumor and gossip in Man of Steel. I cannot accept that Batman, the World's Greatest Detective, did not investigate Superman to the point he knew all there was to know about Clark Kent. But then he'd realize that Clark did not arrive with Zod, that he was a good person that mourned his mistakes and suddenly they'd have no reason to wreck a couple city blocks.
I'd also expect Bruce to give much more of a shit when he's having prophetic dreams and space-time is being torn asunder so some weirdo in red can give him vague messages.
He already would have known that Superman didn't come with Zod considering Zod's message to the world in Man of Steel basically said Superman had been hiding out among them all this time. He wanted to kill Superman because he was afraid that Superman might become evil and destroy all of them because he's off his rocker. So basically, if you kill Batman's sidekick, you're allowed to run around free for 10 years or Batman will go out of his way to save your life. Shoot his bullet proof car or be involved in collateral damage during an alien invasion, *instant death must be given at the hands of the Batman!*
Bluemew1234 Batman might have thought Superman had been hiding out on Earth with his own plans. He clearly never considered Clark was a farm boy that happened to have superpowers. Beyond the whole "Martha" thing, which is still retarded to the power of infinity, Batman was surprised that Superman had a mother. This was what finally put ice on his murder boner. This adds even more contradictions to his characters seeing as how he mass murders the fuck outta normal ass people that surely have families that care about them... God this movie sucked.
I only had issue with that one part. I feel like you're adding things that aren't really there; we aren't really given any reason to think Batman thinks Superman is actually evil. He's just paranoid that Superman *could* become evil and that no one could stop him. Other than that, the idea that Batman managed to never discover a single thing about Superman or that he never actually considered he was becoming what he hated before the Martha moment is astoundingly dumb, especially when he has that revelation right before proceeding to murder even more people needlessly.
Bluemew1234 So, this version of Batman would judge and execute someone based on their potential to do great harm, is more than willing to kill people but allows the Joker to keep running around. This Batman makes no goddamn sense.
1000 sins against DC for actually making movie DLC. Seriously. Cutting off content and then reselling it to people after the theater version has been seen. That is EA-levels of scumbag.
TheZurreal still a scumbag thing to do. I refuse to watch anymore DC-movies until WB is out of the picture. I refuse to support an group that thinks DLC for movies are ok in business practice.
I- I just don't see how that DLC logic works here. I can see if the theatrical and ultimate DVDs/BluRays came out at different dates, but even then your argument would still be weak.
ssj6mysticboy They cut off content and then re-released it for the fans to BUY on a later date than where the first version was in theater. That is basically modern DLC, cutting off content from the final product and re-selling it like some corporate whore. dandroid98 And every single one of them is scum. There is literally no reason for directors to cut out the final product and re-sell it later in an attempt to grab some extra cash.
I cannot believe that after two whole EWW for BvS, you forgot to mention the Wilhelm Scream at the scene where Batman was chasing Lex Luthor in the Batmobile!
They cut the giant squid part of the Manhattan destruction. That was the whole damn point of the scene, to convince the world hostile alien life was out there, which was a target the world could band together over.
+SRM13 Yes there is, like why the hell would he spend his years looking for Francis to fix him when he could've just took the risk and showed his face to his girl? Also he forgot his guns TWICE! How is he such a great mercenary who is so irresponsible?
The thing with the "bat brand" that gets me is why did batman keep branding after the criminals that were branded were the ones getting killed. Did he not care at that point, that's the real sin. The movie sets it up so that we should know that lex is trying to give batman a bad image with the killing of branded criminals, so not sure why it was sinned.
all this fanboys saying that what you said is bullshit and retarder, yet when batman turned the rock into a chemical gas in what? a day? you don't hear the fanboys complain
I think I remember why I hate the Man of Steel Superman. The movies treat him like a savior when he's brutally destroying a city, and they treat him like a mass murderer when he actually does things right. The forced "moral ambiguity" is so clumsy I think it just tripped over a ladybug into my antique china cabinet.
The execution of it is nowhere top notch, because, well.., Snyder and Goyer, but in no way did he brutally destroy a city, and literally no one treated him like a mass murderer except those Luthor bribed.
This a really bad Movie but if Batman kills in this Universe why is the Joker still alive people defended Batman for the not Killing Joker after Jason Todd's death but if he kills then Why is the Joker still alive
Well, I disagree about MoS, but we are all entitled to our own likes and dislikes. Wait, this is the TH-cam comment section. Got to get in character... I mean OOOhhh how dare you have an opinion that isn't mine! XD
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This movie would have been several times better if they had JUST cast a fitting actor as Lex. Lex has always been portrayed as a genius above all geniuses. He's one of Superman's greatest enemies because of that. So a lot of the stuff where we go "wait how did he know to do that" could be explained as "he's just that smart" . . . The problem is they them portray Lex as an unstable kid with daddy issues! Which then causes all the leaps in logic to have no excuses. So while the movie did have other issues I think it's greatest flaw was Lex. The director clearly had no clue how to portray lex luthor properly.
Metazoxan Dexall That's probably the point. He's an unstable kid who thinks he's on top but then his kingdom comes crashing down around him. That's probably how and why he becomes darker and more maniacal.
Metazoxan Dexall Smallville, he had daddy issues and was an unstable person. Also, did you ever read Superman: Birthright? Because all of the things you're complaining about are literally found in that comic. Geoff Johns even confirmed this on the Lex behind the scenes video.
Heracles96 Yeah but SmallVille Lex still at least had this sense of elegance to him. It was a bit rough and childish kind of elegance but Clark wasn't even Superman yet and a kid himself. So you could reason it at Lex was still growing and hadn't matured. Because he didn't just act like some random idiot he acted kind of like what you would expect a young lex with father issues to act like. In fact I thought it was interesting portraying Young Lex as a pretty good guy at first. It raised questions like "How did he end up where he does" and such. Smallville wasn't perfect and did have it's fair share of issues but at least it felt more like it was trying to do the characters justice.
Metazoxan Dexall Oh, he did some pretty idiotic things in smallville. And during the flashbacks of his childhood/high school years, you can literally see the same type of mania that you would in BvS Lex. But as to my second question, have you read Birthright?
This is why you need a Kevin Feige. For when s**t like BvS happens. You can't have writers or directors going off the deep end and derailing your cinematic universe. Edgar Wright wanted to do the same thing with marvel's Ant-Man, he thought he knew better than Marvel what the character should be, but Feige didn't agree, Feige stuck to his guns and so Wright had to leave. Marvel did the right thing, and now they are ahead of DC/WB. WB should not put the director, the quixotic 'artist', 'filmmaker's vision' ahead of the needs of the cinematic universe...They should've known that the cinematic universe is more important than the whims of the 'filmmaker'. I for one don't care on bit about the director's 'vision'. All I care about is the final product not falling below a set standard, not derailing the cinematic universe. I don't want to waste my money on some BvS or Schumacher crap all for the sake of some director's 'vision'. These directors need to understand that it's not about them, they need to get over themselves and get with the program. ALL studios do what Feige does. George Lucas did it to Leigh Brackett and no one complained when the result is The Empire Strikes Back. But you see what happens when the director, Lucas is given unrestrained free rein. You get Prequel Wars films. Sometimes the producers or someone not the director has to step in to keep things from getting out of hand. Now if the director in question is a Michael Mann in his prime (Last Of the Mohicans, Heat, Collateral) or a James Cameron (Titanic) or a Steven Spielberg in his prime (Jaws, Raiders Of The Lost Ark) or Peter Jackson, Guillermo del Toro, Inarritu, Blomkamp, Ben Affleck, Sam Mendes, etc.. then yeah, I think they can be left reasonably on their own but we don't have any of those talents in Snyder.. Snyder and Michael Bay need strict supervision by producers, they need people to tell them no.. Mcu is one of the most successful franchises out there. At least until Disney gets its Star Wars Extended Uni up and running. I've written off Justice League as hopeless on account of the same incompetent director is involved. Some hope for Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Batfleck but beyond that, I have no interest in the dceu. Fool me once, shame on you!
No, but it's child molestation because Alfred is YEARS older than Bruce. And it's well established, which means it started much earlier .... much much earlier.
I'm pretty sure it's actually happened, not surprisingly. Critics too are apparently being bribed by Marvel to destroy DC, even though Marvel wouldn't want that to happen because it would affect them.
I've never laughed so hard at sin. "Their football fandom erupts in violence worse than Vancouver after a hockey loss." This sin made my day I love how true it is. Gg CinemaSins gg
A super hero movie that doesn't spoon feed you the plot elements - is berated for that fact? geeze. Lets start with the pivotal moment of the entire movie. Superman is down, completely vulnerable, and in fact is literally seconds away from dying as Batman stands over him about to use the spear, who is about to save the world from this alien who hid on Earth like a coward from the other aliens he led here. That is.. until the alien uses his last words to plead for the life of human mother, Martha (Kent) ... Bruce Wayne is extremely intelligent. In that moment he realized he was not just a little off, but entirely wrong about "who" Superman was - not an alien coward hiding on Earth, but a refugee - and in fact a refugee who arrived here as a child young enough to have parental love imprinted on him from a human mother... a mother who unlike his, was alive to raise the boy into someone who DIDN'T subjegate the planet but rather the opposite, wanted to fit in as a normal human. But... viewers are for the most part.. not as smart as Bruce Wayne... that's why so many think the scene is dumb. Notice that after that scene - there is no longer anonymity between the two who moments before were fighting to the death.... Superman being framed by Lex Luther who btw is the one that not only arranged the desert interview, but most likely set the renegade general up from the get go... a despote on the ready to be used when the timing was right - the "handler" didn't tell the general a woman was coming because the "handler" worked for Lex too and it would have prevented the interview he needed her to be at so Superman would come save her and hence be framed. Batman brands the heinous criminals because he's PISSED people would still be so evil to another when aliens are threatening to destroy the human race. Lex recognizes this element and exploits it by killing those in prison with the brand - aligning Batman as villain of the worst kind - a former hero who has become blood thirsty. Otherwise Superman would have no beef at all with Batman and any encounter with Batman trying to kill him ends in a few seconds as Superman simply keeps his faster than the speed of sound distance from the naively mistaken caped crusader of gotham until they can work things out. The entire movie is in fact all Lex's plan, scene by scene, to antagonize to a deadly froth all the animosity he can between the two heros, making them both look bad to the public in the process. He LETS batman steal the kryptonite - who else would use it against superman? The military? He'd just leave the planet. An ordinary citizen eager to kill superman? and be ostracized from the human race afterward as the one who killed a being dedicated to protecting human life? Nope.. he needed a "villain" to kill superman.. so he created one in Superman's eyes - a villain that needed to be defeated rather than left alone by Superman. Are you getting this? EACH SCENE IN THE MOVIE IS A PART OF LEX"S PLAN in which he rules the Earth with kryptonian technology because the villain batman has killed superman and he's there to fill the void left - buuuut his plan fails... Superman lives... so instead he uses the kryptonian ship to search its library for beings that could do what Batman couldn't... and he finds them.. the bell can't be unrung... btw.. "daddy issues" are WHY Lex has this plan - its his "proof" that his Dad was wrong to think of him as nothing more than a marketing gimmick for fundraising - he didn't want to be his Dad's equal by running the company either.. he wanted to show the world he was better, smarter, more clever, more methodical, smarter, than his Dad - he didn't mind at all that in doing so he was being more evil, more diabolical, more insane as well. Stop watching the movie as a comic book and start watching it as character study in the human condition in which one loses his humanity, one finally sees it in someone not human, and one realizes finally "why" his human reared willingness to help those in need by being superhuman, will instead cause the world to see him as alien and hence an easy target for the resentful or courageous who then seek to protect the world from him. (yeah the dumb mountain scene... dumb dumb dumb.. right? lol)
Calling the film intellectual and difficult to understand is cop out because the film wasn't well received. A lot of the film is forced and poorly written. The first hour was pretty good: there was a fair mix of intriguing themes that were handled well, and the pacing was decent. After the senate scene, everything fell flat. The film tried to do too much and the plot became somewhat relegated so the film could spend time setting up Justice League. Not a terrible movie by any means, but this film was in no way anything special or ahead of it's time.
+ShadowZard People calling this testosterone-pumped action film "intellectual" and "in depth" is what happens when reading becomes less and less popular and everyone instead feasts themselves on mindless CGI porn. It's like these people have never read a good book before, so when they see a film that tries to act "intelligent" it's like a whole new world for them. This film fails on so many basic levels it's really not hard to see why it was critically panned. The pacing is jarring and clumsy; the themes of the story are unfocused and poorly handled; characters have little or no development and rarely interact with each other, leaving them feeling very one-note and difficult to care about; the tone is so monotonous and lifeless it's hard to feel any emotional connection to the characters and story; there's a big CGI monster shoved in at the end; the symbolism lacks subtlety and elegance and is absurdly basic to the point of being boring; and so on. Feel free to enjoy this movie at your own leisure, but I'm baffled that there are some people out there that actually think this is like literature. Even J.D. Salinger could write better than this.
that would break the sin counter. let me give you an estimate. OVER 9000!!!!!! without the bonus rounds of course. also, that would be an hour long video
...i somehow feel like DC Fanbois have seen a completely different film than Civil War, and are transferring their disappointment with Batman v Superman to Civil War. civil war is possibly one of the best films of 2016. Certainly the best Marvel or DC comic movie... granted Dr.Strange hasn't come out yet... but...
+dragonmcmx kinda is when ur talking about an alien whose abilities arent known to fullest extent they coulda assumed his xray worked like theirs but thats what i mean it wasnt explained or thought out it was like lex knew erything with no explanation
In the beginning CS was awesome channel with "real" sins and with funny delivery and I am forever grateful for boosting up my inner cynic. Now, they are either lobotomized, master level trolls or simply don't care. They miss huge sins (why would someone use bespoke bullets when trying to frame somebody) and sin obvious and explained things (relation between bat branding and prison hits).
+Picea Signum Always do. Doesn't mean I missed something though. Still, I'm subscribed and I get updates when he uploads a video and I didn't get it until today.
Seriously, why does everyone in MOS and BVS talk in such a weird way? Its so damn forced. Stuff like: "What was i supposed to do, let them die?" "Maybe" "The woman i loved could have been shot or killed" "You know what stops him? A fist." "Nobody cares about Clark Kent taking on the Batman." "..the feeling of powerlessness, turns good men cruel." Imagine the awkwardness of saying these in real life. Only an idiot can write such lines.
Danny O'Gara yeah everyone speaks like they're in some sort of philosophy class. Like when Alfred said the line above to Bruce, its like your mentor or father figure suddenly walks behind you while you're frustrated and starts droning on in slow metaphors like a psychology teacher. I'd think he was possessed or something.
+Eli Quillen The Nolan films manage a lot of things BvS flat out failed at. The main thing being that they handle their themes so much better: obvious examples include BB's theme of fear, TDK's theme of chaos, and so forth. Each theme is explored and fleshed out to a degree that gives you plenty to think about and take away from the story. In contrast, BvS tries to handle far too many themes and ends up being a muddled and unfocused mess that doesn't explore any of its themes satisfyingly. Somehow, people mistake this as complexity and depth. Also, while BvS has a droll and lifeless tone that thinks it's being dark but really is just moody, the Nolan trilogy manages to handle some very dark and mature themes, while balancing it out with moments of levity. There are moments of happiness, sadness, horror, frustration, relief, etc. that give us a variety of emotions and contrast and thus allows the audience to feel connected to the story and characters. I think one of the biggest reasons for people being disappointed with BvS is that they couldn't feel any emotional connection to it because it's the same monotonous mood the entire way through. By the time Superman sacrifices himself, I'm left thinking "Whatever". Other points include the Nolan trilogy actually having chemistry between the characters, which helps refine each one and leads us to understand them better. We see a difficult bond between Bruce Wayne and Alfred, even though they clearly care about each other very much. We see Gordon and Harvey Dent come to blows over their clashing methods, but they help each other because they both want to achieve the same thing. BvS, for some reason, has very little interaction between the characters, which makes them feel very one-note and disconnected from each other, and further prevents the audience from caring about them.
There is almost no difference between the PG13 and R Rated cuts. There's barely any strong language, and the blood is negligible. I've seen plenty of PG13 movies with a lot more blood. Casino Royale, World War Z, etc.
@Gary Poppins I gotta back you up and fundamentally disagree on how Lex is "broken". He was not ruined, he was different. His neurotic behavior jives really good with his daddy abuse issues. Whether someone likes him or not is another question - Lex is not broken, the character functions as planned by the movie director
Not that I love BvS,but this was one of the shittiest cinemasins ive seen,literally 90% of the sins were just random facts or ignored other parts of the movie explaining it
also,anyone else catch the parts where he says he is going to remove a sin,but he never does. Someone is really butthurt people called him out on sinning shit just randomly
I mean BvS is a enjoyable movie in the same way the Fast and Furious franchise is; as a real dumb action beat'em up with the occasional "hah... ok" moments when somebody throws out a good one-liner (except with mostly CGI Super Hero fights instead of CGI Street Racing stuff). I think the difference is movies like Furious 7 know how absurd they are and just embrace it, whereas BvS still has DC thinking they're making really insightful comic book movies that are dark, gritty, and ultra serious. BvS is a perfect example of the writing and complex plot getting in the way of what would have been a much better and just as enjoyable movie, if it had dropped all the ridiculously conspiracy frame-Superman stuff, and just had Batman and Superman insulting/fighting each other for an hour until they bro out and go smoke some baddies for the epic conclusion.
I am baffled as to how that movie has an 83% on RT. Its not garbage, but it certainly sucks. Was it given a pass because of the Philosophy of Seth Rogan is every lonely critics wet dream, or were they all to scared to piss of Edward Norton?
Jesse Eisenberg's existence in this film should be sinned. Hell, any time he appears on screen needs to be a fucking bonus round with a x1000 multiplier. He's a fucking moppy headed twink, not goddamn Lex Luthor.
Ethan Jannes And that's where the movie fails, because it's not its job to reconstruct characters to discuss such concerns in the first place, especially when it can't even do that right.You can't tell me we can keep Bruce Wayne's backstory entirely the same, do little to change Superman's own image as well, but for an equally imposing and notable figure in the genre like Lex Luthor, completely butcher him down to a toothpick. Never mind the movie already grossly over-inflates Batman's own issues with Superman (they were never murderous to each other), this movie wants to make a trickster out of LL when he clearly had other factors going for him that made him a decent villain, yet they chose to ignore that anyway to ride the wave off of Joker's popularity and tried to pretend as if people didn't notice? Fuck that, and fuck Snyder for it.
***** Guess what, he hasn't written anything else but Sucker Punch. Directing is the same thing a painting/drawing a picture or a comic. In the comic industry, Zack Snyder would be a great artist. He need a good script with a story that makes sense, like the one hopefully written by Chris Terrio, Geoff Johns and Ben Affleck have written for Justice League, and a movie directed by him will be a good one.
I seriously doubt it's his fault. DC as a whole doesn't know wtf they're doing with the screenplays, they make no sense. Too bad, they always had the best superheroes.
William Holmes it has to wait until it's up for sale and he can buy a copy of it. That's why no one can do any of Narvel Netflix shows, they aren't available for sale in the US.
Doctor Cthulhu Actually everything up to (and including) Luke Cage is available on at least Blu Ray. They're on Amazon and Best Buy. I'd assume he doesn't do them because they're TV shows, not movies.
Come on maaaannnn!!! They added 10 sins for showing the Lex Corp. break in!!! Wtf!! I was waiting for at least 5 sin removals for that awesome scene. Damn you CinemaSins!!
They still didn't show shit. It's one thing for a movie to skip over something awesome, but if the movie shows a tiny little thing of awesome while still skipping the rest, it's basically telling the viewer: "Hey guess what, we could have shown you this awesome scene, but we're not doing it because fuck you." Those 10 sins were completely warranted.
+dragonmcmx Sneider always does that cutting good fight scene shit. Have you seen Immortals? There is a prison breakout screen they just don't show then talk about afterwards.
I still want to know how Clark's body wound up at the Kansas burial. There is no way the government wouldn't have descended on that scene as soon as the danger had passed. They would have snatched Superman's body, refused to release it to anyone, and studied the heck out of it for years. Did Lois run home, grab a set of clothes, and change Clark's dead body out of his Superman duds?
batman and wonderwoman were both at the scene of the crime as it were. I assume they helped take to body, change his clothes, then plant the body somewhere in the destruction
*shield, and actually, in the comics, Clark uses a sort of hypnosis to make himself unidentifiable by others. He emits a sort of low-energy beam from his eyes.
*watches BvS sins video* Oh come on, they should have added more sins for SAVE MARTHA. *watches the ultimate edition sins video* Ah, that's more like it.
The ultimate cut changes everything! Except Eisenberg's awful Lex Luthor performance and his ridiculously convoluted plan, Superman being sidelined in his own sequel, Lois Lane's being useless to the plot and constantly needing saved, the fact there's four dream sequences, that lazy mini-trailer for the Justice League, "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!", Doomsday is a human/kryptonian hybrid but looks like a cave troll, the film shoehorns The Death of Superman into the last 15 minutes along with every other plotline fighting for space (It's a MOS sequel, a Batman origin, The Dark Knight Returns and a Justice League prelude). But apart from all that, it's somehow completely different.
I agree, although that guy isn't Darkseid. His name is Steppenwolf, one of his generals. He's gonna be the villain in Justice League. But yes, this extended cut doesn't change enough to make it good. It does fix one or two things, but that's by only adding in content. It doesn't change anything that made the movie bad or stupid in the first place.
Eisenberg's performance was good and credible. His portrayal of the character is what people hated. Although, I am open to change and I kinda liked the more insane take on him, people just wanted the smart, business man were used to in the comics.
I like the sequels more. I would say the third one is a little bit different but the second is my favorite. That said I think that the series as a whole is enjoyable and none of them are bad in my opinion. The 4th one (the western) is the weakest but even then it isnt THAT bad. This is largely thanks to Michael Gross who keeps the series alive.
Superman having x-ray eyes is regarded as common knowledge I guess? And X ray radiation can't pas through lead which anyone with a physics course in school should know.
8:55. The fact this is one of the best part of the movies and it didnt even make the cinematic release, kind of spotlights the problem with some DC films
I think there are always legit sins, just in joke form maybe. It's when they actually get pissed off that the kidding turns to swearing and logical arguments.
Regarding the "how Superman knows when Lois is in danger" thing, he can hear the heartbeats of literally everyone on Earth and is able to distinguish which belongs to what person. So in retrospect, he can sense that Lois is in danger if he feels her heart begin to race, or some shit I dunno.
He didn't save martha because he's a dick. Face it he can pull planets and travel back in time by spinning the planet the opposite direction but somehow there is still crime. He's actually just bored and craves chaos.
As someone who loves this movie, I will still assert that they should have cut the final "Louis stares at the grave and dirt rises" scene from both versions. All it does is downplay the emotional impact of Superman's death.
At least Schumacher's is bad in a hilariously shit way. This is just depressingly bad. Not to mention THIS is meant to be the tentpole for DC's animated universe. MUCH bigger stakes involved in this.
This was a fun video. Don't get me wrong, I do genuinely like BvS Ultimate Edition but that doesn't mean I can't admit it still has a few problems.. It's just that the good outweighs the bad for me in this movie.
The Ultimate Edition, while by no means the best DC movie, is far from the worst comics based movie too. It's actually a decent film, where the extra 30 minutes really help explain things that the theatrical version skimmed over. And before some Marvel fanboy attacks me (already see several of you in the comments below); Captain America: the First Avenger was not well received, The Fantastic Four has flopped (both versions), and Spiderman 3. Even Marvel has had some bad misses. Does this mean I hate Marvel films? No. I just happen to like and dislike both DC and Marvel shows/films on an individual basis. Batfleck? Probably the best part of the film (though making Batman into mass killer, even if they are bad guys, not sure about). Had awesome action scenes and scenes where he's actually being a detective. Wonder Woman? Beauty and intrigue, along with being able to show her warrior side while fighting Doomsday. Superman? Eh, this goes back to Man of Steel. Not a fan of the Boy Scout being turned into Batman-lite (with all the broodiness and such). Is it too much to ask for one comics book hero to still have both parents alive? Even if they are adoptive?
*"Captain America: the First Avenger was not well received"* 80% on Rotten Tomatoes... A- on Cinemascore... It's not anywhere even close to being as poorly received as BvS. BvS is on the level as... *"The Fantastic Four"* Yes, that. And the fact that Fox has a license to make shitty adaptions with Marvel properties, often with the explicit purpose of preventing those rights from returning to Marvel, does not make those "Marvel movies". *"Spiderman 3"* Again, not made by Marvel Studios. And even that shit was better than BvS.
DC fans aren't being called fanboys, a certain subsection of DC fans are. Those who ignore completely the faults and issues in the movies and defend them only by attacking Marvel movies or fans of ther Marvel movies, and making ludicrous claims like the critics only say the DC movies are bad because they're on Marvel's payroll.There are actually a LOT of people like that.
Woah woah woah. Pleading Schumacher to come back? Are you implying that Batman and Robin was better? That's not even a bad joke. That's insulting people's intelligence lol
As bad as the Schumacher films were. No, the Schumacher films were as bad as they can get. Even this is better. Even the most recent Fantastic Four was better than the Schumacher films.
If you can't see the Batman-ness in Forever, you're not a Batman fan. Batman & Robin has no excuses, ill admit. But Schumacher also made Phone Game and Falling Down. He's a good director and in a proper context, would have made a great Batman.
why do ppl keep saying the ultimate cut is a huge improvement? by like 1% maybe, just for giving Clark a little more sympathy. and some minor plot holes. was that the main reason this movie was a mess? imo
they don't actually believe that i think. i think they spent so much time before the blu-ray release saying "oh you'll see the director's cut will make it better" and then when it didn't just went denial crazy.
It fixed the editing and pacing that a lot of poeple complained about. most of the other problems stem from people not paying attention during the movie and mis out on key details.
It is funny that people defending the "Martha" scene by giving explanation on how deep that scene really is, but actually it is not really deep and I actually understand the message behind it, but that scene is terribly executed to the level that i find it makes no sense....
what you need to do is play the BATMAN AND ROBIN DRINKING GAME!!! The rules are as follows: you need four people at least to play unless you want alcohol poisoning. Alternate taking shots every time one of the characters makes a pun, you'll be blasted in no time. Note: once you exceed 8 people or you want to add extra drinks, add in bad jokes or stupid lines or both... just be careful this has been known to kill people. AND NEVER DO IT ALONE.
No matter how bad this movie was, it wins for the simple fact of giving us the best on-film batman ever. Can't wait for the solo Batfleck movie. Too bad the whiney cry-babies will probably make him a non-killing batman again. That was the best part.
I kind of feel like making Batman kill just kind of makes him a wussier version of the Punisher. I mean, you can kind of forgive all the sci-fi technology when he's going to extreme lengths to avoid killing people, but if he's just a vigilante who goes out and murders criminals, it makes it kind of lame that he needs, like, a tank and space marine power armor to do it.
Oh Batman's sidekick was killed by his enemy. He's abandoning his no kill rule for no reason for some reason! It's so obvious that nobody noticed what i noticed
Sin for CinemaSins at 4:07, it’s called the Kuleshov effect. Take a blank expression, cut to the scene he is observing, cut back to his reaction. Replacing the branding with testimony changes the characters story arc and motives entirely (as explained by Alfred Hitchcock).
Did you seriously just suggest that Alfred and Bruce have a homosexual relationship AND that would be fine Even if they did (and they don’t) it would definitely be disgusting for the sole reason that Alfred RAISED Bruce and that would totally be grooming. It’s the equivalent of woody Allen marrying his step daughter
I wonder how many people will watch this video because it's unlisted, or note it's existence. It's at 704 views now. But that's dumb to say. Because no one cares about being first or 704th. Carry on.
It's funny because they then released this video to the public to make it seem like they were uploading another video. I was scrolling through the comments just to see if someone else would notice that, and it turns out it's literally the same video - I thought they reuploaded it, but no, they just released it. Lazy bastards…
a b c e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z. Notice anything? The D is out for Harambe. I didn't think that this would get 1.3k likes. Holy fuck guys, what have you done?
I'll explain some things, and while I know this will obviously trigger people to hate, admit sometimes you did not pay attention. I ask for you to keep an open mind: -Lex Luthor: One of the most hated parts of the movie has fans bitching about how Jesse isn't "The real Lex!". Well...he isn't. In his intro he says how his father was "The Lex in front of the corp". That probably makes you think "So his father is not Lionel?". By this simple logic you should be able to figure out: Grandfather: Lionel Father: Lex Jesse: Lex JUNIOR He is Lex JUNIOR. Not the original Lex, and he gets his "baptism" at the end when he gets shaved: He is not laughing, or smirking, he is angry. This shows he has learned not to be reckless and stupid like he was the whole movie, he will know start acting like "the" Lex. -The identity game: Everyone is boasting around about how "did he find out who they were?" and rage about how it wasn't explained. It was, very easily may I add. Let's not forget that while he may act unhinged, Lex is one of the smartest people in the Dc universe. For years now people have been saying "How do people not figure out Clark is Superman because of some glasses?!". Well...that's what Lex did. He realized they have similar face complexions, he probably checked Clark's schedule and realized they're never in the same place at the same time. Now on to Batman. Lex has obviously met Bruce before, he knows he's always late, tired and slashed up. He also knows there's a vigilante who uses high-tech toys that surfaced at the same time Bruce returned to Gotham. And before you say "Then why don't other people do it?". Remember that ClarkKent-Glasses study that came out a few weeks ago, about how it's not easy to recognize someone if you don't know them? Lex has met Bruce, he knows he's late and bruised. Lex has investigated Clark, he knows he and Supes are never together. Nobody else knows those things- Rant over
+Kyle Krazer I looked on the internet and lex luther does have a son called Alexander luther jr. This is Jesse eisenburgs character name so it must be him. Strange though because his son has a lanturn ring... yep..
At 11:32 the sin count is 110. Then adds 1 sin for "fake death morning" which brings it to 111. Then he says take off 1 sin for the Steppenwolf cameo..but they don't on the sin counter
Finally! I was tired of reading comments on their previous BVS video saying "Funny how most of these sins are fixed in the Ultimate Edition...." ,when that was actually not the case at all. I hope all whiney DC fanboys take this hard and start running around their parent's basement (aka, their room) while hitting themselves in the head with various objects while screaming, until their parents yell at them to shut up.
Funny thing is how many DC fans actually hate this POS movie, but for some reason clowns assume that anyone who likes this movie is actually a fan of the DC universe. And yes, it's about time someone actually reviewed this special (ed) edition rather than just "claiming" how much better it makes this shit show. The only thing about that edition that deserves note is how many dumbassess paid 12 dollars to see it in the theater, then another 20 to "get it."
We've reached the point in cinema where we now have DLC for movies
Oh man can't wait for them micro transaction's!! (sarcasm)
We've had cinematic "downloadable content" since at least the theatrical re-release of Close Encounters of the Third Kind in 1980, and some movies, such as Blade Runner and Alexander, have so many available alternate cuts that it's easy to lose track of them, so surely Batman v Superman can be permitted at least one. The Ultimate Edition of BvS is the original cut of the movie before it was trimmed for theatrical release, and not all directors get the privilege of having their original cuts released to the public (see Josh Trank's Fant4stic for a recent example), so don't begrudge him the chance to have his movie judged in the form he intended.
M.A. Moreno I ain't giving Snyder shit. I'm giving WB shit. I heard people leaving the theater of Suicide Squad wondering if the extended cut will help give context to some of the characters that were missing.
Grrr WB is quickly becoming EA and soon we'll hate them in 2 years.
... Oh fuck you're right. Wow. That's depressing.
One third of the USA's initials on his chest? by that logic he also has half the USSR's initials making him a soviet
I'm disappointed Jon Stewart agreed to read such a dumb line...
It's satire. He was saying it ironically.
Satire: The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues. The exact meaning I intended, and applied to Stewart's lines. It's something he would do.
Eric Dickson-Peppler Then perhaps I shouldn't have used "satire" in the sense. Humor, nonetheless. He wasn't being serious in regards to the situation.
I'm pretty positive he'd still only have 1/4 of the initials, numbnuts.
Love how the movie is rated R just for one F bomb and showing Affleck naked from behind yet Days Of Future Past had literally both of these things and was still PG-13
the martian did too
MetalDave98 in the movie Passengers
Chris Pratt appears naked twice and theres a sex scene and That was PG-13
I didn't see the Ultimate Cut, but perhaps there was more violence/action/blood that pushed it over the edge into R.
Besides, having an "R-rated" edition that's so "Ultimate" would be good marketing to people who think "R-rated" somehow means "instantly better than PG-13 or lower" merely on the prospect of some curse words and nudity.
So I used to do film ratings for a film festival. Let me just say this. You had to be 18 years or older to even read the rating guidelines handbook, which spelled out examples of how each film element changes with a higher rating. And this edgelord piece of ultimate crap got a 14A in Canada (basically PG13). I've seen the criteria for an R rating. That's not happening here.
The movie is Rated R for sequences of violence not for nudity or language
"This version touches more on the romantic relationship between Bruce and Alfred, an area where no other Batman movie has dared to tread." loooooooooooooool
Ikr. Alfred is like a father to Bruce. It's weird
I feel like the phrase “I don’t deserve you” isn’t specifically used for romantic relationships. Like ya I think 50% of the time it is used for that but other times it’s for family, friends, or maybe your car after a long day and it’s the only thing you can rely on
Bats says daddy
@@Demolition89336 alfred was always like a father to Bruce. His actual parents die when he was a kid remember
It’s a father son relationship
I can accept that Lex figured out Clark Kent is Superman. Lois Lane did that based on rumor and gossip in Man of Steel. I cannot accept that Batman, the World's Greatest Detective, did not investigate Superman to the point he knew all there was to know about Clark Kent. But then he'd realize that Clark did not arrive with Zod, that he was a good person that mourned his mistakes and suddenly they'd have no reason to wreck a couple city blocks.
I'd also expect Bruce to give much more of a shit when he's having prophetic dreams and space-time is being torn asunder so some weirdo in red can give him vague messages.
He already would have known that Superman didn't come with Zod considering Zod's message to the world in Man of Steel basically said Superman had been hiding out among them all this time.
He wanted to kill Superman because he was afraid that Superman might become evil and destroy all of them because he's off his rocker.
So basically, if you kill Batman's sidekick, you're allowed to run around free for 10 years or Batman will go out of his way to save your life.
Shoot his bullet proof car or be involved in collateral damage during an alien invasion, *instant death must be given at the hands of the Batman!*
Bluemew1234 Batman might have thought Superman had been hiding out on Earth with his own plans. He clearly never considered Clark was a farm boy that happened to have superpowers. Beyond the whole "Martha" thing, which is still retarded to the power of infinity, Batman was surprised that Superman had a mother. This was what finally put ice on his murder boner. This adds even more contradictions to his characters seeing as how he mass murders the fuck outta normal ass people that surely have families that care about them... God this movie sucked.
I only had issue with that one part.
I feel like you're adding things that aren't really there; we aren't really given any reason to think Batman thinks Superman is actually evil.
He's just paranoid that Superman *could* become evil and that no one could stop him.
Other than that, the idea that Batman managed to never discover a single thing about Superman or that he never actually considered he was becoming what he hated before the Martha moment is astoundingly dumb, especially when he has that revelation right before proceeding to murder even more people needlessly.
Bluemew1234 So, this version of Batman would judge and execute someone based on their potential to do great harm, is more than willing to kill people but allows the Joker to keep running around. This Batman makes no goddamn sense.
I suspect that "extended editions" will become the DLC of movies.
That, and the re-releases.
@@nicname3147 I came from the future to say its officially begun.
Nic Name the re release isn’t DLC it’s the remastered version of the game for the next gen console
Or maybe think that it was wb that forced him to cut the movie down you fucking mongrel
You called it sir!!!
1000 sins against DC for actually making movie DLC.
Seriously. Cutting off content and then reselling it to people after the theater version has been seen.
That is EA-levels of scumbag.
TheZurreal still a scumbag thing to do.
I refuse to watch anymore DC-movies until WB is out of the picture. I refuse to support an group that thinks DLC for movies are ok in business practice.
TheZurreal or just get it free online at some place. They are going to try and cheat me for money? I cheat them right back.
I- I just don't see how that DLC logic works here. I can see if the theatrical and ultimate DVDs/BluRays came out at different dates, but even then your argument would still be weak.
This literally exists in such a large number of movies known as a "Director's Cut"
ssj6mysticboy They cut off content and then re-released it for the fans to BUY on a later date than where the first version was in theater.
That is basically modern DLC, cutting off content from the final product and re-selling it like some corporate whore.
dandroid98
And every single one of them is scum. There is literally no reason for directors to cut out the final product and re-sell it later in an attempt to grab some extra cash.
"R rated version of BVS still gives us PG13 Naked Lois Lane." Will the disappointments never end?
Lol
I mean she isn't required to show her naked body to you creeps lol
This really shatters the Amy Adams simp in me
@@HashknightGamingno point of r rating then tf
"AFRICOLA, TASTE DA FEELEEING"
Imagine that was an actual advert...
That made me geek
People would riot
I cannot believe that after two whole EWW for BvS, you forgot to mention the Wilhelm Scream at the scene where Batman was chasing Lex Luthor in the Batmobile!
Aliah Obeidi you just sinned Cinema Sins. Well played.
Where???
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I notice there are exactly "0" sins relating to Wonder Woman... Well done...
yeah hahaha
well she was barely even in the movie.
Android 19 I meant it more like, She was perfect..!! So no sins for her... LOL
+Android 19 w
***** I kind of meant it like, she was the best part of the movie... So no sins for her...
BVS screwed up Lex Luther, SS screwed up joker, WW did Ares okay, but he was the weakest part of that movie.... only villain they did well was Zod....
milking cow suprise howd they screw up lex
XOVO By turning him into Jim Carrey's Riddler with Tourette's syndrome.
DC hit its peak with Christopher Nolan's Dark Night movies but only went downhill from there
Jason Dee those are two very different characters, stop being ignorant
Heroes are so annoying.
When that Hamilton like "Hate the sin, love the sinner" comes to mind.
Decisions are happening over dinner
Apparently no one was in the room where it happens when they approving scenes and lines.
+Maggie Bacon No. you just missed the point.
+Maggie Bacon No. you just missed the point.
+Maggie Bacon Stfu with this Hamilton bs. Its getting lame and retarded now
Hold the phone I dont think he epically fucked Watchmen. He succeeded with the closest adaption possible within live action film.
i... i dont know... i think that they should have brought a different director, but he didnt fuck it up tho, the movie is good despite his directing
They cut the giant squid part of the Manhattan destruction. That was the whole damn point of the scene, to convince the world hostile alien life was out there, which was a target the world could band together over.
S.Agent Gadriel i dont know man... having dr manhattan blow up several cities of several countries works better to me, more logial
+Murcia doxial But there is no reason why the sovjet would join forces with the USA. Dr Manhattan was cleary a part of the USA army
Also, he added the bat-nipples to the movie...
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I just figured that Superman can sense the butterfly effect from Lois's screams.
Then how come he couldn't smell the jar of piss at the Senate hearing?!?
@Hl A powe of boner make miracle
Where is everything wrong with Deadpool buddy?
There's nothing wrong with it Fam, it's perfect
+SRM13 this is true
+SRM13 the only thing wrong with it is that it ended
No it isn't. It has my #1 least favorite movie cliche: The pointless strip club scene. Other offenders are The Internship, and Paying It Forward.
+SRM13 Yes there is, like why the hell would he spend his years looking for Francis to fix him when he could've just took the risk and showed his face to his girl? Also he forgot his guns TWICE! How is he such a great mercenary who is so irresponsible?
The thing with the "bat brand" that gets me is why did batman keep branding after the criminals that were branded were the ones getting killed. Did he not care at that point, that's the real sin. The movie sets it up so that we should know that lex is trying to give batman a bad image with the killing of branded criminals, so not sure why it was sinned.
@YoungD3mon314 Can't kill them? He's been killing people throughout this movie.
There is literally a scene where Alfred shows it to Batman and Batman showed he basically doesn't give a fuck what's happening
he’s a veteran batman and joker killed his robin that’s why he doesn’t value his no kill rule like before and is branding people
@@popcornplaya2013
Then how the fuck is Joker still alive? He should've been his first kill.
Why didn't Lex just make the bomb in the chair a Kryptonite bomb?
He could have killed him right there!
*ding*
Dafuq is a kryptonite bomb? That doesn't make any sense.
You're not serious right? Seriously, are you just trolling, or are you that stupid?
Idk, if it was some kind of kryptonite frag thing, maybe. Still not as dumb as 'Martha'
jenkind1 Then explain it, smart guy. You can't just turn a rock into a bomb and act like it makes sense.
all this fanboys saying that what you said is bullshit and retarder, yet when batman turned the rock into a chemical gas in what? a day? you don't hear the fanboys complain
I think I remember why I hate the Man of Steel Superman. The movies treat him like a savior when he's brutally destroying a city, and they treat him like a mass murderer when he actually does things right. The forced "moral ambiguity" is so clumsy I think it just tripped over a ladybug into my antique china cabinet.
thats an epic point
The execution of it is nowhere top notch, because, well.., Snyder and Goyer, but in no way did he brutally destroy a city, and literally no one treated him like a mass murderer except those Luthor bribed.
its a proof that the director didnt know his own story and never revise the defect. its just like he wrote it at the last minute and film it.
This a really bad Movie but if Batman kills in this Universe why is the Joker still alive people defended Batman for the not Killing Joker after Jason Todd's death but if he kills then Why is the Joker still alive
Well, I disagree about MoS, but we are all entitled to our own likes and dislikes.
Wait, this is the TH-cam comment section. Got to get in character... I mean OOOhhh how dare you have an opinion that isn't mine! XD
Nothing worse than wasted potential.
Like your imagination.
+Arttu Lehmonen ooooooohhhh
Morbidly obese people taking up multiple seats in public transport, but only having to pay for one seat.
Damn straight.
I love the sound of CinemaSins telling fanboys to eat shit. It sounds like an angel singing...
Welcome back to: enraged fanboys in the comment section of the video! I'm your host, Salvador Dolby and this is our double feature, a moment you'll never forget! Let's start the show!
>implying there's any fans of this movie
Matthew Broseph The comment section betrays your expectations.
...and the lack of any significant amount in this thread betrays yours.
It's unlisted... give it time... if it's posted, they will come...
Γιάννης Γαρεφαλάκης Why would angry people come onto a thread making fun of angry people?
This movie would have been several times better if they had JUST cast a fitting actor as Lex. Lex has always been portrayed as a genius above all geniuses. He's one of Superman's greatest enemies because of that.
So a lot of the stuff where we go "wait how did he know to do that" could be explained as "he's just that smart"
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The problem is they them portray Lex as an unstable kid with daddy issues! Which then causes all the leaps in logic to have no excuses.
So while the movie did have other issues I think it's greatest flaw was Lex. The director clearly had no clue how to portray lex luthor properly.
brainiac should been in this movie.
Metazoxan Dexall That's probably the point. He's an unstable kid who thinks he's on top but then his kingdom comes crashing down around him. That's probably how and why he becomes darker and more maniacal.
Metazoxan Dexall
Smallville, he had daddy issues and was an unstable person.
Also, did you ever read Superman: Birthright? Because all of the things you're complaining about are literally found in that comic. Geoff Johns even confirmed this on the Lex behind the scenes video.
Heracles96 Yeah but SmallVille Lex still at least had this sense of elegance to him.
It was a bit rough and childish kind of elegance but Clark wasn't even Superman yet and a kid himself.
So you could reason it at Lex was still growing and hadn't matured. Because he didn't just act like some random idiot he acted kind of like what you would expect a young lex with father issues to act like.
In fact I thought it was interesting portraying Young Lex as a pretty good guy at first. It raised questions like "How did he end up where he does" and such.
Smallville wasn't perfect and did have it's fair share of issues but at least it felt more like it was trying to do the characters justice.
Metazoxan Dexall Oh, he did some pretty idiotic things in smallville. And during the flashbacks of his childhood/high school years, you can literally see the same type of mania that you would in BvS Lex.
But as to my second question, have you read Birthright?
"Africola. Taste the feeling." Cracked me up the way he said it xD
This is why you need a Kevin Feige. For when s**t like BvS happens. You can't have writers or directors going off the deep end and derailing your cinematic universe. Edgar Wright wanted to do the same thing with marvel's Ant-Man, he thought he knew better than Marvel what the character should be, but Feige didn't agree, Feige stuck to his guns and so Wright had to leave. Marvel did the right thing, and now they are ahead of DC/WB. WB should not put the director, the quixotic 'artist', 'filmmaker's vision' ahead of the needs of the cinematic universe...They should've known that the cinematic universe is more important than the whims of the 'filmmaker'. I for one don't care on bit about the director's 'vision'. All I care about is the final product not falling below a set standard, not derailing the cinematic universe. I don't want to waste my money on some BvS or Schumacher crap all for the sake of some director's 'vision'. These directors need to understand that it's not about them, they need to get over themselves and get with the program. ALL studios do what Feige does. George Lucas did it to Leigh Brackett and no one complained when the result is The Empire Strikes Back. But you see what happens when the director, Lucas is given unrestrained free rein. You get Prequel Wars films. Sometimes the producers or someone not the director has to step in to keep things from getting out of hand. Now if the director in question is a Michael Mann in his prime (Last Of the Mohicans, Heat, Collateral) or a James Cameron (Titanic) or a Steven Spielberg in his prime (Jaws, Raiders Of The Lost Ark) or Peter Jackson, Guillermo del Toro, Inarritu, Blomkamp, Ben Affleck, Sam Mendes, etc.. then yeah, I think they can be left reasonably on their own but we don't have any of those talents in Snyder.. Snyder and Michael Bay need strict supervision by producers, they need people to tell them no.. Mcu is one of the most successful franchises out there. At least until Disney gets its Star Wars Extended Uni up and running. I've written off Justice League as hopeless on account of the same incompetent director is involved. Some hope for Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Batfleck but beyond that, I have no interest in the dceu. Fool me once, shame on you!
I am not reading that.
Anthony Saunders TL;DR dceu is a total cock up. They need a Feige.
+camethedawn I thought Geoff johns was they're new feige
+Varinder Bhandal
If he's supposed to be a Feige, then he needs to step up and prove it now.
+Kyle Krazer well I'm hearing that focusing making good stories and change the tone so it won't be so boring
Is it necessarily homosexual, just because two men love eachother? No. No it isn't.
True
It's a prank.
No, but it's child molestation because Alfred is YEARS older than Bruce. And it's well established, which means it started much earlier .... much much earlier.
Andrei Zedlav
Are you sure you don't mean joke? Regardless, how can you tell? Everything they say in their videos are always delivered monotone.
Not to mention the obvious father-son relationship they're supposed to have.
This movie deserve a bonus round for slow-mo
I wonder if any DC fans have started accusing Marvel of paying Cinema Sins to insult DC 😂 😂 😂
Won't be long.
I'm pretty sure it's actually happened, not surprisingly. Critics too are apparently being bribed by Marvel to destroy DC, even though Marvel wouldn't want that to happen because it would affect them.
+Danny O'Gara and that's bullshit. You seriously think Marvel would do that?
+Vision Freak Sorry, I meant I'm pretty sure that people have already accused CinemaSins of being paid by Marvel. I worded that badly.
+Danny O'Gara oh. Yeah I've already seen some idiots saying that. It's really sad
I've never laughed so hard at sin. "Their football fandom erupts in violence worse than Vancouver after a hockey loss." This sin made my day I love how true it is. Gg CinemaSins gg
No sin removal for Wonder Woman with her legs spread and the sexy grin on her face?
Now I can want to watch the movie
If anything, he would have added a sin. It doesn't contain a lap dance.
+Saltyk ^^^^^
What?
+Saltyk Aw he never even says that quote most of the time now.
"The cake is a lie!" XD It's nice when used in a proper context.
A super hero movie that doesn't spoon feed you the plot elements - is berated for that fact? geeze.
Lets start with the pivotal moment of the entire movie. Superman is down, completely vulnerable, and in fact is literally seconds away from dying as Batman stands over him about to use the spear, who is about to save the world from this alien who hid on Earth like a coward from the other aliens he led here. That is.. until the alien uses his last words to plead for the life of human mother, Martha (Kent) ... Bruce Wayne is extremely intelligent. In that moment he realized he was not just a little off, but entirely wrong about "who" Superman was - not an alien coward hiding on Earth, but a refugee - and in fact a refugee who arrived here as a child young enough to have parental love imprinted on him from a human mother... a mother who unlike his, was alive to raise the boy into someone who DIDN'T subjegate the planet but rather the opposite, wanted to fit in as a normal human. But... viewers are for the most part.. not as smart as Bruce Wayne... that's why so many think the scene is dumb. Notice that after that scene - there is no longer anonymity between the two who moments before were fighting to the death....
Superman being framed by Lex Luther who btw is the one that not only arranged the desert interview, but most likely set the renegade general up from the get go... a despote on the ready to be used when the timing was right - the "handler" didn't tell the general a woman was coming because the "handler" worked for Lex too and it would have prevented the interview he needed her to be at so Superman would come save her and hence be framed.
Batman brands the heinous criminals because he's PISSED people would still be so evil to another when aliens are threatening to destroy the human race. Lex recognizes this element and exploits it by killing those in prison with the brand - aligning Batman as villain of the worst kind - a former hero who has become blood thirsty. Otherwise Superman would have no beef at all with Batman and any encounter with Batman trying to kill him ends in a few seconds as Superman simply keeps his faster than the speed of sound distance from the naively mistaken caped crusader of gotham until they can work things out. The entire movie is in fact all Lex's plan, scene by scene, to antagonize to a deadly froth all the animosity he can between the two heros, making them both look bad to the public in the process. He LETS batman steal the kryptonite - who else would use it against superman? The military? He'd just leave the planet. An ordinary citizen eager to kill superman? and be ostracized from the human race afterward as the one who killed a being dedicated to protecting human life? Nope.. he needed a "villain" to kill superman.. so he created one in Superman's eyes - a villain that needed to be defeated rather than left alone by Superman.
Are you getting this? EACH SCENE IN THE MOVIE IS A PART OF LEX"S PLAN in which he rules the Earth with kryptonian technology because the villain batman has killed superman and he's there to fill the void left - buuuut his plan fails... Superman lives... so instead he uses the kryptonian ship to search its library for beings that could do what Batman couldn't... and he finds them.. the bell can't be unrung... btw.. "daddy issues" are WHY Lex has this plan - its his "proof" that his Dad was wrong to think of him as nothing more than a marketing gimmick for fundraising - he didn't want to be his Dad's equal by running the company either.. he wanted to show the world he was better, smarter, more clever, more methodical, smarter, than his Dad - he didn't mind at all that in doing so he was being more evil, more diabolical, more insane as well.
Stop watching the movie as a comic book and start watching it as character study in the human condition in which one loses his humanity, one finally sees it in someone not human, and one realizes finally "why" his human reared willingness to help those in need by being superhuman, will instead cause the world to see him as alien and hence an easy target for the resentful or courageous who then seek to protect the world from him. (yeah the dumb mountain scene... dumb dumb dumb.. right? lol)
Most of these characters aren't good here thought.
VictoriousProductions Fuck you, dickass. I don't need to go on some 2000 character rant to state what I feel.
Calling the film intellectual and difficult to understand is cop out because the film wasn't well received. A lot of the film is forced and poorly written. The first hour was pretty good: there was a fair mix of intriguing themes that were handled well, and the pacing was decent. After the senate scene, everything fell flat. The film tried to do too much and the plot became somewhat relegated so the film could spend time setting up Justice League.
Not a terrible movie by any means, but this film was in no way anything special or ahead of it's time.
+ShadowZard People calling this testosterone-pumped action film "intellectual" and "in depth" is what happens when reading becomes less and less popular and everyone instead feasts themselves on mindless CGI porn. It's like these people have never read a good book before, so when they see a film that tries to act "intelligent" it's like a whole new world for them.
This film fails on so many basic levels it's really not hard to see why it was critically panned. The pacing is jarring and clumsy; the themes of the story are unfocused and poorly handled; characters have little or no development and rarely interact with each other, leaving them feeling very one-note and difficult to care about; the tone is so monotonous and lifeless it's hard to feel any emotional connection to the characters and story; there's a big CGI monster shoved in at the end; the symbolism lacks subtlety and elegance and is absurdly basic to the point of being boring; and so on.
Feel free to enjoy this movie at your own leisure, but I'm baffled that there are some people out there that actually think this is like literature. Even J.D. Salinger could write better than this.
Have one thing that i HUGELY disagree with.
I quite liked Catcher in the Rye.
Can you PLEASE do Captain America: Civil War??
The dvd is already out
that would break the sin counter. let me give you an estimate. OVER 9000!!!!!! without the bonus rounds of course. also, that would be an hour long video
+Isaac Freierman Ur crazyCivil War was better than this shit
...i somehow feel like DC Fanbois have seen a completely different film than Civil War, and are transferring their disappointment with Batman v Superman to Civil War.
civil war is possibly one of the best films of 2016. Certainly the best Marvel or DC comic movie... granted Dr.Strange hasn't come out yet... but...
Civil War better than BvS? No, not in the slightest.
Still didnt explain how anyone knew he couldnt see thru lead imean we know if ur into the comics but for the movie its like huh
It's an X-Ray vision thing. Superman can see x-rays, but those don't pass through lead.
+dragonmcmx
His point wasn't about the lead. His point was about how anyone knew he couldn't see through lead.
Well, word might have spread by now of his X-Ray vision, and with some knowledge about usual x-rays, that conclusion aint hard to reach.
+dragonmcmx kinda is when ur talking about an alien whose abilities arent known to fullest extent they coulda assumed his xray worked like theirs but thats what i mean it wasnt explained or thought out it was like lex knew erything with no explanation
Denzel Mckenzie True that. I suppose we'll just have to accept that Lex has acquired some sort of omniscience.
I have to admit. He nailed it here. One wonders how nobody caught any of these serious plot problems before the movie was released
Yeah we did that's why most of us dislike the theatrical release and all other versions. These movies suck.
@@bethanychatman9531 "Before the movie was released." In other words, why the writers couldn't see the problems with their script.
I was gonna write something in the defense of this movie but you know what? If you don't like it that's fine, I won't try to change your mind.
I accept your acceptance.
I call that progress! Maybe, some day, you'll grasp that "Everything Wrong With . . . ." is an ENTERTAINMENT SERIES. *Not an actual film critic.*
OK.
In the beginning CS was awesome channel with "real" sins and with funny delivery and I am forever grateful for boosting up my inner cynic. Now, they are either lobotomized, master level trolls or simply don't care. They miss huge sins (why would someone use bespoke bullets when trying to frame somebody) and sin obvious and explained things (relation between bat branding and prison hits).
I love this movie its like one big inside joke. me and my friend Loao at this movie. defiantly buying UE
53K views in 27 seconds... well shit
Oh and..
WHAT WHAT!
The actual video was released a week ago you just needed to watch the killing joke video to be able to get the link for this one.
+Patton528 I'm subscribed and it didn't pop up till just a bit ago for me, and I watched the killing joke video too.
Ah, but did you watch until the very end?
+Picea Signum Always do. Doesn't mean I missed something though. Still, I'm subscribed and I get updates when he uploads a video and I didn't get it until today.
Seriously, why does everyone in MOS and BVS talk in such a weird way? Its so damn forced. Stuff like:
"What was i supposed to do, let them die?" "Maybe"
"The woman i loved could have been shot or killed"
"You know what stops him? A fist."
"Nobody cares about Clark Kent taking on the Batman."
"..the feeling of powerlessness, turns good men cruel."
Imagine the awkwardness of saying these in real life. Only an idiot can write such lines.
It's like an emo version of "From my point of view the Jedi are evil!"
+TheZurreal The dialogue is fucking awful, it's trying far too hard to sound meaningful but only comes across completely forced and inorganic.
Danny O'Gara yeah everyone speaks like they're in some sort of philosophy class.
Like when Alfred said the line above to Bruce, its like your mentor or father figure suddenly walks behind you while you're frustrated and starts droning on in slow metaphors like a psychology teacher. I'd think he was possessed or something.
The Nolan Batman films did it too, and those films were fantastic.
+Eli Quillen The Nolan films manage a lot of things BvS flat out failed at. The main thing being that they handle their themes so much better: obvious examples include BB's theme of fear, TDK's theme of chaos, and so forth. Each theme is explored and fleshed out to a degree that gives you plenty to think about and take away from the story. In contrast, BvS tries to handle far too many themes and ends up being a muddled and unfocused mess that doesn't explore any of its themes satisfyingly. Somehow, people mistake this as complexity and depth.
Also, while BvS has a droll and lifeless tone that thinks it's being dark but really is just moody, the Nolan trilogy manages to handle some very dark and mature themes, while balancing it out with moments of levity. There are moments of happiness, sadness, horror, frustration, relief, etc. that give us a variety of emotions and contrast and thus allows the audience to feel connected to the story and characters. I think one of the biggest reasons for people being disappointed with BvS is that they couldn't feel any emotional connection to it because it's the same monotonous mood the entire way through. By the time Superman sacrifices himself, I'm left thinking "Whatever".
Other points include the Nolan trilogy actually having chemistry between the characters, which helps refine each one and leads us to understand them better. We see a difficult bond between Bruce Wayne and Alfred, even though they clearly care about each other very much. We see Gordon and Harvey Dent come to blows over their clashing methods, but they help each other because they both want to achieve the same thing. BvS, for some reason, has very little interaction between the characters, which makes them feel very one-note and disconnected from each other, and further prevents the audience from caring about them.
Everyone's angry about how Zack Snyder ruined Lex Luthor, and I'm over here angry about how Zack Snyder wasted 1 F-bomb in an R-rated cut.
There is almost no difference between the PG13 and R Rated cuts. There's barely any strong language, and the blood is negligible. I've seen plenty of PG13 movies with a lot more blood. Casino Royale, World War Z, etc.
Handsome Jack you are a moron
Read superman birthright lex was not ruined. Do you even read comics
@Gary Poppins I gotta back you up and fundamentally disagree on how Lex is "broken". He was not ruined, he was different. His neurotic behavior jives really good with his daddy abuse issues. Whether someone likes him or not is another question - Lex is not broken, the character functions as planned by the movie director
Not that I love BvS,but this was one of the shittiest cinemasins ive seen,literally 90% of the sins were just random facts or ignored other parts of the movie explaining it
also,anyone else catch the parts where he says he is going to remove a sin,but he never does. Someone is really butthurt people called him out on sinning shit just randomly
they do this all the time? they use random stuff to sin, is not to take seriously, youre the butthurt one lmao
They sin cause their supposed to be assholes. They already know their certain sins you'll disagree on
+ChallengingGravity He removes the sins from the grand total.
He didn't ignore them moron lol. He noticed them, but the extra scenes were pointless as hell lol.
I feel like I'm the only one who enjoyed this film
Probably because you are.
You're not alone, but I'm not really one of those people.
Whether you are the only one or not, just be glad you expressed what you enjoyed without caring what others say.
I enjoyed the film I'm just not a crazy fanboy who gets all butthurt when some1 says something bad about it
I mean BvS is a enjoyable movie in the same way the Fast and Furious franchise is; as a real dumb action beat'em up with the occasional "hah... ok" moments when somebody throws out a good one-liner (except with mostly CGI Super Hero fights instead of CGI Street Racing stuff).
I think the difference is movies like Furious 7 know how absurd they are and just embrace it, whereas BvS still has DC thinking they're making really insightful comic book movies that are dark, gritty, and ultra serious.
BvS is a perfect example of the writing and complex plot getting in the way of what would have been a much better and just as enjoyable movie, if it had dropped all the ridiculously conspiracy frame-Superman stuff, and just had Batman and Superman insulting/fighting each other for an hour until they bro out and go smoke some baddies for the epic conclusion.
Everything Wrong With Sausage Party.
eww *DING*
+Dietrich Steyn that movie has at least 150 swears in it :/
Dee-Ann Schwanke
Swearwords is fine, but just watching the trailer gave me nightmares.
I am baffled as to how that movie has an 83% on RT. Its not garbage, but it certainly sucks. Was it given a pass because of the Philosophy of Seth Rogan is every lonely critics wet dream, or were they all to scared to piss of Edward Norton?
it had a good story . . . until it got to the Orgy GUHHHHH!!!!!
"I dont hate the sinner, I hate the sin"
Mom?
The salt from DC fanboys is real...
I should go grab some water than.
I love DC, but the movies they make are terrible. The TV shows are good enough :D
Then*... you FUCK
Than what?
+Dr. Dhoom Wow you are everywhere. Just as triggered as always wtf.
Jesse Eisenberg's existence in this film should be sinned. Hell, any time he appears on screen needs to be a fucking bonus round with a x1000 multiplier. He's a fucking moppy headed twink, not goddamn Lex Luthor.
That's because he's not Lex Luthor. He's Lex Luthor Jr.
+GrandMasterArcturus it was meant as a joke m8
Should have cast him as Riddler or Crazy Quilt
I read somewhere he auditioned for the Joker but they told him to use it for Luthor instead.
Ethan Jannes And that's where the movie fails, because it's not its job to reconstruct characters to discuss such concerns in the first place, especially when it can't even do that right.You can't tell me we can keep Bruce Wayne's backstory entirely the same, do little to change Superman's own image as well, but for an equally imposing and notable figure in the genre like Lex Luthor, completely butcher him down to a toothpick. Never mind the movie already grossly over-inflates Batman's own issues with Superman (they were never murderous to each other), this movie wants to make a trickster out of LL when he clearly had other factors going for him that made him a decent villain, yet they chose to ignore that anyway to ride the wave off of Joker's popularity and tried to pretend as if people didn't notice? Fuck that, and fuck Snyder for it.
Zack Snyder should never be allowed to touch any DC-related material ever again.
You spelled ''Zack Snyder should be given better scripts to work with and more focused producers to keep him from fucking it up'' wrong.
***** Guess what, he hasn't written anything else but Sucker Punch. Directing is the same thing a painting/drawing a picture or a comic. In the comic industry, Zack Snyder would be a great artist. He need a good script with a story that makes sense, like the one hopefully written by Chris Terrio, Geoff Johns and Ben Affleck have written for Justice League, and a movie directed by him will be a good one.
***** One, got it. Two, congratulations.
Three, I must have misread that. And that's something we can both agree on.
+K-Riddle93 Have you seen, everything great about batman v superman from CinemaWins? There actually talks more about directing.
I seriously doubt it's his fault. DC as a whole doesn't know wtf they're doing with the screenplays, they make no sense. Too bad, they always had the best superheroes.
I watched Justice League last night. Gave it a rating of 6/10, but I'd like to see you rip into it
William Holmes it has to wait until it's up for sale and he can buy a copy of it. That's why no one can do any of Narvel Netflix shows, they aren't available for sale in the US.
Doctor Cthulhu -- oh that sucks balls!!
I had a bad feeling about Justice League movie. It was soooo heavily advertised l
GI Jesus -- I saw it in theaters a few weeks ago and I was able to give it a 6/10. But I went in with low to no expectations so...
Doctor Cthulhu Actually everything up to (and including) Luke Cage is available on at least Blu Ray. They're on Amazon and Best Buy. I'd assume he doesn't do them because they're TV shows, not movies.
Movie fix, change the line "Martha" to "Save my Mom, her name is Martha".
Nope, still lame.
Change the scenario to where Alfred actually figures out what Lex is up to.
More like
"my....mother.......
"WHAT DID YOU SAY????"
Lois Lane:"His mother!Martha Kent! She's in danger!"
DemoGoblin Nope. Still lame. And "HER mother" lmao. Didn't know Supes was a girl.
dragonmcmx Typo.sorry about that.Better than Random martha out of nowhere though.
Come on maaaannnn!!! They added 10 sins for showing the Lex Corp. break in!!! Wtf!! I was waiting for at least 5 sin removals for that awesome scene. Damn you CinemaSins!!
They still didn't show shit. It's one thing for a movie to skip over something awesome, but if the movie shows a tiny little thing of awesome while still skipping the rest, it's basically telling the viewer: "Hey guess what, we could have shown you this awesome scene, but we're not doing it because fuck you." Those 10 sins were completely warranted.
The sins were added because the scene was originally cut despite its awesomeness
+dragonmcmx Sneider always does that cutting good fight scene shit. Have you seen Immortals? There is a prison breakout screen they just don't show then talk about afterwards.
+Stephen Carpenter I thought the cut of scenes is ordered by the studio not by the filmmaker.
I still want to know how Clark's body wound up at the Kansas burial. There is no way the government wouldn't have descended on that scene as soon as the danger had passed. They would have snatched Superman's body, refused to release it to anyone, and studied the heck out of it for years. Did Lois run home, grab a set of clothes, and change Clark's dead body out of his Superman duds?
the general helped him, since he know who he is from MoS
batman and wonderwoman were both at the scene of the crime as it were. I assume they helped take to body, change his clothes, then plant the body somewhere in the destruction
+BBQ nachos that's a theory, not fact.
+Miki Williams maybe.
Because he's BATMAN!
9:53 well he probably knows supermans identity because GLASSES AREN'T A FLIPPING SHEILD!!
Mr. JJL Gma but shouldn't other people find it out too?
*shield, and actually, in the comics, Clark uses a sort of hypnosis to make himself unidentifiable by others. He emits a sort of low-energy beam from his eyes.
@@stevielee625 THANK YOU!!!!
@@stevielee625 and how does it work on people that are seeing his face through a picture or a video?
@@stevielee625 so why does he need to wear glasses?
STILL funny how no one gets the Martha thing hahaha
For the last time, we get it, we just think it doesn't work.
it actually does work and for many reasons
People just don't understand the powerful social commentary of "The Room".
+VictoriousProductions What kind of logic is that? I "got" Batman & Robin, it still doesn't work.
ITS ART...You people just don't understand it. God. Go back to watching your mainstream movies cause bvs is art.
This movie exists. (ding.)
+BBQ nachos the mere fact we dinging each other DING
Nathaniel Kamps Dinging other people. (Ding.)
..I don't get why batman is branding people.
ArlanKels Because Zach Snyder.
+ArlanKels BECAUSE HIS BATMAN
1:54 is not a tank, its an mobile artillery gun, most likely an original M109 from like the Vietnam era.
either way its armored and it has big guns, and not relevant to his point
It's a tank to all the planet but gun nuts.
ChristianIce? non sapevo che ti guardavi CinemaSins
Dio Khan
Bella!
*watches BvS sins video*
Oh come on, they should have added more sins for SAVE MARTHA.
*watches the ultimate edition sins video*
Ah, that's more like it.
The ultimate cut changes everything!
Except Eisenberg's awful Lex Luthor performance and his ridiculously convoluted plan, Superman being sidelined in his own sequel, Lois Lane's being useless to the plot and constantly needing saved, the fact there's four dream sequences, that lazy mini-trailer for the Justice League, "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!", Doomsday is a human/kryptonian hybrid but looks like a cave troll, the film shoehorns The Death of Superman into the last 15 minutes along with every other plotline fighting for space (It's a MOS sequel, a Batman origin, The Dark Knight Returns and a Justice League prelude).
But apart from all that, it's somehow completely different.
Well thats your opinion, I though it was a great start for lex.
You're in the minority on that one but still very much entitled to your opinion, however baffling it may.
I agree, although that guy isn't Darkseid. His name is Steppenwolf, one of his generals. He's gonna be the villain in Justice League.
But yes, this extended cut doesn't change enough to make it good. It does fix one or two things, but that's by only adding in content. It doesn't change anything that made the movie bad or stupid in the first place.
Eisenberg's performance was good and credible. His portrayal of the character is what people hated. Although, I am open to change and I kinda liked the more insane take on him, people just wanted the smart, business man were used to in the comics.
Thank you! Well said!!
Everything wrong with Tremors
Ha, wishful thinking!
That's an oxymoron. Nothing is wrong with Tremors.
+onymous _ no movie is without sin
Been calling for that obscure classic to get the sin treatment for years lol!!!
I like the sequels more. I would say the third one is a little bit different but the second is my favorite. That said I think that the series as a whole is enjoyable and none of them are bad in my opinion. The 4th one (the western) is the weakest but even then it isnt THAT bad. This is largely thanks to Michael Gross who keeps the series alive.
I like Jesse eisenberg in this movie
His plan this time had nothing to do with real estate?
Me too. It was fun watching him.
Is the same Jesse Eisenberg in every movie.
Edgar Sanchez Yeah but Seth Rogen plays himself in every film and we still love him.
I still need to see American Ultra. That looked awesome.
are we just gonna forget that Clark went on a boat heading to Gotham when he could've flew there in seconds?
Clark can’t fly it’s not that hard to understand
People were against superman at that time. flying wasn't something he was proud of. he wanted to feel more human
he WANTED TO BE HUMAN!
@@parinikasharma317 you're...back, after months, to reply to a comment you've already replied to, just to say the same thing again?
@@dhruvtukadiya i forgot i replied to it!
9:22 - If the wheelchair was lined with lead, how did Luthor even know that Supes can't see through lead?
Because hes fucking Lex Luthor.
He examined Zod earlier in the film.
think he just got lucky
He watched the 1978 version where Lois reveals it in an interview...
Superman having x-ray eyes is regarded as common knowledge I guess? And X ray radiation can't pas through lead which anyone with a physics course in school should know.
how long till remastered edition?
That will only tempt Marvel to bring out the Bucky Edition
Then the Jesse Eisenberg going "HHHMMMMMMMMMM" edition
I would rather watch Alfred edition rather than this movie i mean he is the best character in this also....
SAVE MARTHAA!
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAMMMMEE!???!!!
I literally can't wait for the Suicide Squad one xD
That should take about 40 minutes.
+Broncos4life That would be boring af. That's just like watching another movie.
Broncos4life It certainly wasn't as bad as BvS imo.
me neither
It certainly wasn't as grim. However, it still had its problems.
8:55. The fact this is one of the best part of the movies and it didnt even make the cinematic release, kind of spotlights the problem with some DC films
I think Cinemawins explanation for the Martha scene was spot on. Even when I saw it in theaters I knew it made sense
They added 30 minutes, and the sins video is 15 minutes. Ouch
this is a video where you actually made legit sins. hasn't happened in a long time
Thats why its hidden :D
I think there are always legit sins, just in joke form maybe. It's when they actually get pissed off that the kidding turns to swearing and logical arguments.
Matthew Broseph someone's having a bad day
It actually doesn't have legit sins.
When was the last time there was no lap dance
‘Africola, taste the feeling.’😂
If I ever see that TH-cam music AD again. I promise I will find that little Asian boy and tell him that he's not GANSTA
Lmfao
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS !!!!!!!
They're annoying AF
I like it. I wish they showed his name so so can listen to the entire track.
i just got the same ad right now xD
Regarding the "how Superman knows when Lois is in danger" thing, he can hear the heartbeats of literally everyone on Earth and is able to distinguish which belongs to what person. So in retrospect, he can sense that Lois is in danger if he feels her heart begin to race, or some shit I dunno.
then why can't he save Martha?
+Sir Noel because he's been inside lois.
He didn't save martha because he's a dick.
Face it he can pull planets and travel back in time by spinning the planet the opposite direction but somehow there is still crime. He's actually just bored and craves chaos.
he knows were she is for the sake of the plot
DCEU Superman is nowhere near fast/strong enough to do either of those actions
everything wrong with the shawshank redemption
ain't happening bro!
nothing is wrong with it
might as well sin Citizen Kane
might as well sin Citizen Kane
they already did
"Africola taste the feeling" I don't know why but that killed me
As someone who loves this movie, I will still assert that they should have cut the final "Louis stares at the grave and dirt rises" scene from both versions. All it does is downplay the emotional impact of Superman's death.
emotional or emotionless ? cause it was pretty much the latter
GamingSage
Well, I cried at the funeral scene.
Wrathemon28 knowing he was obviously coming back ? It's Superman
GamingSage
Yes, I still cried because the scene was still well made.
There was an emotional impact?
This movie may not have been great....but I doubt many people want Schumacher back.
bat nips and bad puns over Martha!! any day
Bruce Young "Ice to see you".
kratoscallofduty alright everybody... CHILL
At least Schumacher's is bad in a hilariously shit way. This is just depressingly bad. Not to mention THIS is meant to be the tentpole for DC's animated universe. MUCH bigger stakes involved in this.
This was a fun video. Don't get me wrong, I do genuinely like BvS Ultimate Edition but that doesn't mean I can't admit it still has a few problems.. It's just that the good outweighs the bad for me in this movie.
same
CS matter every criticism funny
makes
8:36 I didn't like BvS but when the same thing is done in House of Cards people call it one of the best scenes ever made.
The Ultimate Edition, while by no means the best DC movie, is far from the worst comics based movie too. It's actually a decent film, where the extra 30 minutes really help explain things that the theatrical version skimmed over.
And before some Marvel fanboy attacks me (already see several of you in the comments below); Captain America: the First Avenger was not well received, The Fantastic Four has flopped (both versions), and Spiderman 3. Even Marvel has had some bad misses. Does this mean I hate Marvel films? No. I just happen to like and dislike both DC and Marvel shows/films on an individual basis.
Batfleck? Probably the best part of the film (though making Batman into mass killer, even if they are bad guys, not sure about). Had awesome action scenes and scenes where he's actually being a detective.
Wonder Woman? Beauty and intrigue, along with being able to show her warrior side while fighting Doomsday.
Superman? Eh, this goes back to Man of Steel. Not a fan of the Boy Scout being turned into Batman-lite (with all the broodiness and such). Is it too much to ask for one comics book hero to still have both parents alive? Even if they are adoptive?
Caltain America: The First Avenger made 370 million dollars and got an 80% on rotten tomatoes. I think it was pretty well received. My only criticism
*"Captain America: the First Avenger was not well received"*
80% on Rotten Tomatoes... A- on Cinemascore... It's not anywhere even close to being as poorly received as BvS. BvS is on the level as...
*"The Fantastic Four"*
Yes, that. And the fact that Fox has a license to make shitty adaptions with Marvel properties, often with the explicit purpose of preventing those rights from returning to Marvel, does not make those "Marvel movies".
*"Spiderman 3"*
Again, not made by Marvel Studios. And even that shit was better than BvS.
Spider man and fantastic four are Sony so more of Sony fucked them up but yeah the first captain America wasn't the best but decent
+flammonster I thought the first captain America was good
Should of said "que the Marvel fanboys with their excuses".
Those are Marvel movies, studio or not. Get over it, Marvel has had some bad films too.
I am a Marvel Fan, I didn't watch this movie, but I don't like how Marvel Fans or regular people are calling DC fans "Fanboys" why?
Because some are going way too far to defend this movie.
I like DC and I'm not doing anyone of those things.
You w0t Mate?! Good, you're one of the decent ones.
CAUSE IF YOU LIKE DC YOU ARE AN INSTANT DC FANBOY WHO HATES EVERYTHING ELSE....duh lol
DC fans aren't being called fanboys, a certain subsection of DC fans are. Those who ignore completely the faults and issues in the movies and defend them only by attacking Marvel movies or fans of ther Marvel movies, and making ludicrous claims like the critics only say the DC movies are bad because they're on Marvel's payroll.There are actually a LOT of people like that.
Woah woah woah. Pleading Schumacher to come back?
Are you implying that Batman and Robin was better?
That's not even a bad joke. That's insulting people's intelligence lol
bat nips over my mom's name is the same as your mom's name any day of the week. horrible puns to why not
As bad as the Schumacher films were. No, the Schumacher films were as bad as they can get. Even this is better. Even the most recent Fantastic Four was better than the Schumacher films.
I don know man those ice puns were legendary. At least they had fun with the film everyone looked bored in Bvs
If you can't see the Batman-ness in Forever, you're not a Batman fan. Batman & Robin has no excuses, ill admit. But Schumacher also made Phone Game and Falling Down. He's a good director and in a proper context, would have made a great Batman.
Hell yeah Batman and Robin was better. At least that movie was stupid in a fun way. This movie is stupid in a BORING way, and that insufferable.
it's lex that is ordering to kill the people in prison to make Clark angry at Batman and later in the movie tries to stop him
what what
LOL.
butt sex
Galactic Virus What the suck? Enough of that.
WHAT WHAT
Jason Hayes That's better.
why do ppl keep saying the ultimate cut is a huge improvement? by like 1% maybe, just for giving Clark a little more sympathy. and some minor plot holes. was that the main reason this movie was a mess? imo
they don't actually believe that i think. i think they spent so much time before the blu-ray release saying "oh you'll see the director's cut will make it better" and then when it didn't just went denial crazy.
i liked it.it still suffers from lazy writing tho.
Only version I ever watched. I'm still amazed that there can possibly be a "worse" cut.
It fixed the editing and pacing that a lot of poeple complained about. most of the other problems stem from people not paying attention during the movie and mis out on key details.
+Rudricku! explain lazy writing? there was so much effort put Into the script.
It is funny that people defending the "Martha" scene by giving explanation on how deep that scene really is, but actually it is not really deep and I actually understand the message behind it, but that scene is terribly executed to the level that i find it makes no sense....
*****
Then, they go on and shit on Civil War for not being deep while BvS actually didn't have the depth they meant.
Supa Copper So, If Superman's mom was named Sarah or Margaret...he would've killed him??
#dumpsterfire #garbage
cabellero1120 No, he won't. Because it shows there is a human side of Superman, which is he has a mother.
Supa Copper Yeah because "i knew he killed your mother" and "i guess i was just sparing myself" is good
Is is quite a deep scene but it was really poorly executed and just looks like batman spared him because MARTHAAA!
I love the sarcasm in this channel.Cinemasins u take sarcasm to a whole new level!!
"Also, can I get a "What what?" for two sins videos in one day? "
WHAT WHAT?
WHAT WHAT
Transformers: The Movie turns 30 this year, can you please do, Everything Wrong With Transformers: The Movie?
he already did a transformers
That statement is false. He did a Bayformers.
aaaand now I'm off to rewatch that movie for the 1000th time
Only the 1000th? You need to step up your game.
You gotta dare to be stupid, TheJALT2!
I get it was a joke but the Schumacher sentence at the end was a bit too far
I'm neither invested in movies, nor comic books so I'll wait for a captain, ...
***** Oh, I didn't know that was his work. But how can anyone dislike it? Batnipples! ... wait. Batnipples. Fair enough.
Batman and Robin is still the worst DC movie - but the worst superhero movie is still Howard the Duck.
+Luke Dias nah it's Steel. Or The Phantom.
what you need to do is play the BATMAN AND ROBIN DRINKING GAME!!! The rules are as follows: you need four people at least to play unless you want alcohol poisoning. Alternate taking shots every time one of the characters makes a pun, you'll be blasted in no time. Note: once you exceed 8 people or you want to add extra drinks, add in bad jokes or stupid lines or both... just be careful this has been known to kill people. AND NEVER DO IT ALONE.
All these videos are just so addicting
No matter how bad this movie was, it wins for the simple fact of giving us the best on-film batman ever.
Can't wait for the solo Batfleck movie. Too bad the whiney cry-babies will probably make him a non-killing batman again. That was the best part.
Best on film batman?
I don't think so.
Batfleck is indeed a great Batman, and it's only been 2 movies.
I kind of feel like making Batman kill just kind of makes him a wussier version of the Punisher. I mean, you can kind of forgive all the sci-fi technology when he's going to extreme lengths to avoid killing people, but if he's just a vigilante who goes out and murders criminals, it makes it kind of lame that he needs, like, a tank and space marine power armor to do it.
Yeah, fuck making interesting characters, let's just have violence and murder!
Oh Batman's sidekick was killed by his enemy. He's abandoning his no kill rule for no reason for some reason! It's so obvious that nobody noticed what i noticed
Sin for CinemaSins at 4:07, it’s called the Kuleshov effect. Take a blank expression, cut to the scene he is observing, cut back to his reaction. Replacing the branding with testimony changes the characters story arc and motives entirely (as explained by Alfred Hitchcock).
Did you seriously just suggest that Alfred and Bruce have a homosexual relationship AND that would be fine
Even if they did (and they don’t) it would definitely be disgusting for the sole reason that Alfred RAISED Bruce and that would totally be grooming. It’s the equivalent of woody Allen marrying his step daughter
He was joking, dumb dumb
"It’s the equivalent of woody Allen marrying his step daughter"
He ACTUALLY did it...
Ashir yea I was saying woody Allen is fucking disgusting
This video is the epitome of "Jeremy points things out on the screen cliche."
I wonder how many people will watch this video because it's unlisted, or note it's existence. It's at 704 views now. But that's dumb to say. Because no one cares about being first or 704th. Carry on.
this appeared in my side bar...
Well, im 21,125th, so...
53,000
It's funny because they then released this video to the public to make it seem like they were uploading another video. I was scrolling through the comments just to see if someone else would notice that, and it turns out it's literally the same video - I thought they reuploaded it, but no, they just released it. Lazy bastards…
a b c e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z. Notice anything? The D is out for Harambe.
I didn't think that this would get 1.3k likes. Holy fuck guys, what have you done?
While I won't give you my like, I will acknowledge that it made me smile.
nobody gives a shit about that stupid gorrila
nobody gives a fuck about your life
+sean mergner reported
+Asianator reported
I'll explain some things, and while I know this will obviously trigger people to hate, admit sometimes you did not pay attention. I ask for you to keep an open mind:
-Lex Luthor: One of the most hated parts of the movie has fans bitching about how Jesse isn't "The real Lex!". Well...he isn't. In his intro he says how his father was "The Lex in front of the corp". That probably makes you think "So his father is not Lionel?". By this simple logic you should be able to figure out:
Grandfather: Lionel
Father: Lex
Jesse: Lex JUNIOR
He is Lex JUNIOR. Not the original Lex, and he gets his "baptism" at the end when he gets shaved: He is not laughing, or smirking, he is angry. This shows he has learned not to be reckless and stupid like he was the whole movie, he will know start acting like "the" Lex.
-The identity game: Everyone is boasting around about how "did he find out who they were?" and rage about how it wasn't explained. It was, very easily may I add. Let's not forget that while he may act unhinged, Lex is one of the smartest people in the Dc universe. For years now people have been saying "How do people not figure out Clark is Superman because of some glasses?!". Well...that's what Lex did. He realized they have similar face complexions, he probably checked Clark's schedule and realized they're never in the same place at the same time. Now on to Batman. Lex has obviously met Bruce before, he knows he's always late, tired and slashed up. He also knows there's a vigilante who uses high-tech toys that surfaced at the same time Bruce returned to Gotham.
And before you say "Then why don't other people do it?". Remember that ClarkKent-Glasses study that came out a few weeks ago, about how it's not easy to recognize someone if you don't know them? Lex has met Bruce, he knows he's late and bruised. Lex has investigated Clark, he knows he and Supes are never together. Nobody else knows those things-
Rant over
The Lex Luthor Jr thing really doesn't help.
Kyle Krazer Care to explain why?
SmashPro Because he's still the Luthor that's going to be involved in this universe, so the Jr part doesn't help.
+Kyle Krazer I looked on the internet and lex luther does have a son called Alexander luther jr.
This is Jesse eisenburgs character name so it must be him.
Strange though because his son has a lanturn ring... yep..
Crimson Head98 That's from a different storyline. Doesn't really connect with the DCEU Luthor.
At 11:32 the sin count is 110. Then adds 1 sin for "fake death morning" which brings it to 111. Then he says take off 1 sin for the Steppenwolf cameo..but they don't on the sin counter
9:26 as well...
remove all the sins for gal gadot's wonder woman reveal.
Schumacher? Let's not say things we can't take back.
Finally! I was tired of reading comments on their previous BVS video saying "Funny how most of these sins are fixed in the Ultimate Edition...." ,when that was actually not the case at all. I hope all whiney DC fanboys take this hard and start running around their parent's basement (aka, their room) while hitting themselves in the head with various objects while screaming, until their parents yell at them to shut up.
They need to learn the DCEU has some major problems and they're just enabling them.
Does your comment seriously just cut out mid sentence?
wolfhowlin bit sad that you hate others for having a different opinion on a movie
Funny thing is how many DC fans actually hate this POS movie, but for some reason clowns assume that anyone who likes this movie is actually a fan of the DC universe. And yes, it's about time someone actually reviewed this special (ed) edition rather than just "claiming" how much better it makes this shit show. The only thing about that edition that deserves note is how many dumbassess paid 12 dollars to see it in the theater, then another 20 to "get it."
9:57 he says the “biggest questions in the movie are...” those are the single most stupid nitpicks in the entire thing. Like good lord those are bad