The Worst Scene In Fallout (VTec Meeting Scene)

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  • @TheAmazingRusski
    @TheAmazingRusski 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    The show is a perfect metaphor for the modern fallout games: Insane production value, lots of attention to detail on all the Fallout "stuff" (junk, consumables, power armor) and a metric ton of pandering and handholding to those unfamiliar with the franchise all at the expense of meaningful and logical writing, lore, and everything established in the non-bethesda titles.

    • @billy-ol2cd
      @billy-ol2cd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheAmazingRusski so true

    • @Mirthful_Midori
      @Mirthful_Midori 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It also pays zero respect to anything Bethesda wrote, because nobody at Bethesda even cares about their own material. Inconsistency is Bethesda's only consistent behavior.

    • @TheBreakingBenny
      @TheBreakingBenny 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Mirthful_Midori It also shows what Emil Pagliarulo thinks of the world and plot... Pete Hines too. Skyrim has dragons that somehow NEVER appeared in previous Elder Scrolls, are we to expect them be absent in TES VI or not?
      Also, no one can forget how flippant Pete was towards Billy the ghoul kid in FO4's Kid In A Fridge somehow still retaining his sanity and being alive, two centuries and a little more after the Great War. "Just don't think about it and keep buying our slop like the obediant, white-knighting fan you are who wouldn't even catch us speaking out of both sides of our mouths!"

    • @MLPDethDealr32
      @MLPDethDealr32 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheBreakingBenny Actually there were supposed to be rust Dragons in Cyrodil at the time of Morrowind or Oblivion and after. They got scrapped by the time of Skyrim because they had to have that " IMPERIAL" ROMAN legion look for the Empire. That was courtesy of Ken Rolsten.

    • @TheBreakingBenny
      @TheBreakingBenny 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MLPDethDealr32 Interesting.

  • @onomee130
    @onomee130 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    "Fallout is dead, and we killed it"
    Emil & Todd the Wise, 2024

  • @factualhat3018
    @factualhat3018 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Im glad to see that i was not the only one who despised this show and especially this scene... i looked around and all i saw were people constantly screaming about how its 'TEH BESTEST EVAR' even though its complete ass when you peal off the layers of fancy toppings and nostalgia frosting

  • @Yuta_Respecter
    @Yuta_Respecter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I love how Sinclair catches like 30 strays with his character. He owns Big MT but didn't know what he got himself into with the hazmat suits, the knives and cloud. Hes losing money but is at the roundtable with House. He's an optimistic and kind man who loves an actress but now looks like a predator.
    Crazy how the show just made Dean correct and right in his hatred of Sinclair.

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I didn't even think of that last one. They made the bad guy a good guy due to rewriting him for the sake of a capitalism bad message

    • @TheAmazingRusski
      @TheAmazingRusski 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Yuta_Respecter also his appearance and seemingly age completely changed

    • @B-zk9bt
      @B-zk9bt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He was never supposed to own big mt. They ruined the tragedy of dead money.

    • @lazwardazure716
      @lazwardazure716 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Basically my comment i left on Mauler's video:
      "SINCLAIR. ONLY. BOUGHT. FROM. BIG MT. He wasn't in charge or a spokesperson if he were than the Sierra Madre wouldn't be an Inhospitable Hell Scape that it ended up being also what the hell if they were so dedicated to get someone who somewhat looks like Mr. House than SURLY they could've gotten someone who looks like Sinclair the Mural is a good reference point. Use that"

  • @wfogapgfahfnog35
    @wfogapgfahfnog35 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The show retcon everything...
    That seems pretty faithful to Besthesda games, actually.

    • @TheBreakingBenny
      @TheBreakingBenny 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Disney Star Wars as well.

  • @EnclaveEmily
    @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Wish me luck in my exam and recovery. And no, I don't know why TH-cam compressed the clip so much.

    • @Skitzopie
      @Skitzopie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lucks for you

  • @JacobWashington-zl7tj
    @JacobWashington-zl7tj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    One day Fallout will make its return to glory. Its just unfortunate that day is certainly not today.

    • @myriad9597
      @myriad9597 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It's glory still lives on, in the memories retained and the modder's efforts.

  • @Skitzopie
    @Skitzopie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    fallout show was made by an brotherhood fanboy that discovered that the ncr was in war with them, so he destroy it

    • @slashfan091
      @slashfan091 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      So Todd Howard 😂

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@slashfan091According to Chris Avalone, Tod was more of an Enclave fanboy.

    • @myriad9597
      @myriad9597 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'd say more an enclave fan boy, given they've only had indirect character assassinations done.

    • @Skitzopie
      @Skitzopie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@myriad9597 damn, maybe todd loves the little enclave

    • @r32guy85
      @r32guy85 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lobsterwithinternet still couldn't join the enclave in 3

  • @Alex_FRD
    @Alex_FRD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    A reminder that this whole plot point was ripped straight from Resident Evil: The Final Chapter, AKA the worst in the entire franchise.

  • @bobijameep1344
    @bobijameep1344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have a little something to add to this.
    This meeting takes place at its earliest in 2076, because earlier in the chronological timeline when cooper is talking to a friend the friend says: After 10 years of fighting the US is broke. Which is wrong btw because the US was funding most major companies at the time but whatever.
    So it takes place in 2076, why does House look like he's in his 30's or early 40's he is 56 he is one year removed from putting himself in his preservating pod so how did he suddenly gain 25 years in the span of one.
    A couple unrelated things too:
    Why does cooper tell a vault-tec employee about a fault in power armor? They don't make it.
    Why does the flaw even exist? Power armor is bolted not welded.
    Edit spelling.

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm gonna make a note of this. I feel like it might be relevant in the future

  • @NJHProductions512
    @NJHProductions512 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This was an excellent rant that hit all the points as far as I can tell, well done.

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanks! Though I missed an important thing. I noticed I neglected to mention just how badly they messed up Sinclair (he is not the CEO of Big MT)

  • @khornebread4802
    @khornebread4802 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Good luck on your exam and your recovery.
    I refuse to believe Begthesda's lie that the "House" in the show and the House we interact with in New Vegas are the same person. No matter what the lobotomites say.

  • @general_meyers76
    @general_meyers76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    wake up bae enclave emily dropped another video

  • @AnonymousC2218
    @AnonymousC2218 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You did a great job with this, the passion you have shows that you care about the franchise, well what's' left of it anyways.

  • @WarDogMadness
    @WarDogMadness 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You fucking nailed it.

  • @DeuteriumFoods
    @DeuteriumFoods 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love how Fallout show fans will go to the ends of the earth to cope about how the fall of the NCR makes sense, New Vegas is fine, and why there’s no way that’s the Prydwyn. But then this scene comes up and they give up trying to work with the show and just say “fuck it it’s dumb on purpose”. Even they wouldn’t try and defend this shit

  • @kielbasamage
    @kielbasamage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ah yes, the meeting of the finest minds in Pre-War america* (Fine in the sense that their neural pathways were honed away with a gritty rock until all that remained was a razor thin, faintly sparking Arby's meat flap in a skull.)

  • @Dave89146
    @Dave89146 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is a show made by the same people that made Fallout 4 which is only 'good' with mass amounts of mod's 😂

  • @omegavalwin
    @omegavalwin 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The whole thing with REPCONN gets even more dumb when you remember that Mr. House acquired REPCONN

  • @Mattka85
    @Mattka85 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Have a quick recovery! Good video, they really seem to hate New Vegas and Mr House... I almost wish we could see what they planned with him in later episodes... almost....

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I hope this show gets cancelled

  • @u4yk
    @u4yk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    More like Retconn.

  • @VitaliyMilonov
    @VitaliyMilonov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe a "fuck up" is a simplier explanation.

  • @sadmeatshield939
    @sadmeatshield939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a lovely surprise, I get to microdose your fallout critique instead of rewatching the whole thing.

  • @ultraviolet540
    @ultraviolet540 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You’re the only bright spot in this community, I can’t even interact with anyone who calls themselves a Fallout fan anymore. They take glee in the desecration of this franchise, they can all be happy with the pale shadow of the shining glory that will always be classic Fallout.

  • @chuck_muckle
    @chuck_muckle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    do you have any recommendations for other channels like yours? ive had a hard time finding many people who share a similar viewpoint about bethesda and the fallout games. that one twenty sided video was excellent, but i cant seem to find many that go more in depth about some of the ideas he had in his video. i personally remove all of the bethesda slop from my head canon, and im sure there are others like that, but theyre hard to find nowadays

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      View point and in-depth wise, only Creetosis and Mauler. I do recommend creetosis a lot.
      Also, what video are you referring to when you say "twenty sided video"? My review?

    • @acrab6527
      @acrab6527 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Despot of Antrim is good. Clipped Coin if he ever makes a video again.

    • @chuck_muckle
      @chuck_muckle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EnclaveEmily cree is good. maulers review was also very good, but i was referring to youtubers who specifically cover fallout. the vid i was talking about is "bethesda never understood fallout" from the channel twenty sided that came out a few years ago. the video itself feels more like a proof of concept, and honestly i feel like someone could make a ten hour video on each of the claims he makes in the vid. he hasn't made a fallout video since. theres plenty of videos about how the fallout show is terrible, but im looking for someone who can make some kind of big picture video about alll the bethesda stuff: the artstyle, writing, characters, and lore and really dismantle the whole thing. i think the art style in particular is something ive seen suuupper little commentary about when it comes to even fallout 3 itself. id make a video about it myself, but there are people who are wayyy more familiar with this stuff than me.

    • @chuck_muckle
      @chuck_muckle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@acrab6527 ill def check them out

    • @chuck_muckle
      @chuck_muckle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@acrab6527 it looks like that clipped coin guy just made a video three weeks ago. those channels seem interesting, but theyre not really my cup of tea. im not really interested in any of the political stuff or the whole "woke" thing, im more focused on analyzing the actual contents of the story. also i was referring more towards fallout related stuff. thanks for the recommendations though

  • @digger6843
    @digger6843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought it was for everyone himself to decide who pressed the red buttonn first

  • @jacobcaster
    @jacobcaster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It shows that the writers and showrunners dont understand the concepts they are working with.

    • @acrab6527
      @acrab6527 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They do. They don't care. They are never punished for lying cheating, murdering or stealing. So they do it more and more.

    • @kwayneboy1524
      @kwayneboy1524 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How so?

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A lot of the "mistakes" they made are too perfect and consistent to be "mistakes"

  • @Mavarok284
    @Mavarok284 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wish you good luck on your recovery! Although I enjoyed the show, I also believed that their world building is problematic and your comments were spot on. I believe however that you should voice your criticism less passionately :P

  • @screwstatists7324
    @screwstatists7324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I buy the rotten IP, i'll relegate the show to "historical fiction written in the NCR"

    • @lazwardazure716
      @lazwardazure716 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@screwstatists7324 "Pffft yeah sure thing private some "Vault Tec employees" froze themselves to the year 2296 and I'm the president of the NCR by that time"

    • @screwstatists7324
      @screwstatists7324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lazwardazure716 that all comes from the stories about vault experiments. The townspeople were written to interject the rhetoric of the NCR into the discussion. Postmodernism evolved from the cynicism of the wastes in the decaying NCR

  • @agonizingstarbutterfly1184
    @agonizingstarbutterfly1184 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let me point to you a show that handles the topic of capitalism better. The first ep opens with a commercial run by a business corporation advertising their food,medicine and weapons. The plot of the ep is a group of military personnel trying to undercover a conspiracy that's involved this corporation. This organization is eventually find out to be terrorists group that is trying take over the world by posing as business corporation. Which means the commercial I mention is actually simply propaganda. This show is called G.I joe renegades and this terrorist group is Cobra. This is a kids show that subtly explore the idea of capitalism by making Cobra as a metaphor for it. Theres a ep that's tied to capitalism with a existence of a cult. The show had the balls to provided some insightful commentary on how nothing is done with veterans who suffer from PTSD to help them recover. Nothing only do I feel rob that I didnt got a good adaptation of fallout,but the fact this got second season and renegades didn't.

  • @thiagofod
    @thiagofod 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    always happy to give a view to fallout show hate

  • @arnoldjudassmegheadrimmer4344
    @arnoldjudassmegheadrimmer4344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent video. I also enjoyed your other video about the Amazon TV show. None of the writers understand capitalism, or even communism. They just parrot modern day political bs. I love Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas. I saw the Amazon 8 episodes, and I thought it was awful. Thank you for your videos, keep up the good fight!

  • @Butter_Warrior99
    @Butter_Warrior99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope for a speedy recovery!

  • @troypowers750
    @troypowers750 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would you guys rather join me at the very rainy Iceland summer camp instead of watching this BS?

  • @ThisIsMyYouTubeAccount1
    @ThisIsMyYouTubeAccount1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enclave Emily feeds me content during the anti-TV show content drought

  • @LordGhentsis
    @LordGhentsis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope your recovery will be swift and you be yourself soon! Just one question: when Fallout 5 comes out, what will Bethesda be removing/simplifying from their previous installment?

  • @whitemouse2460
    @whitemouse2460 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't their room a reference to The War Room form Dr. Strangelove? Their ramblings about post-apocalyptic societies is definitely based on similar ramblings from Dr. Strangelove, including eponymous character.

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm not sure. Could you elaborate just a bit so i can look it up? I feel like we're going to come back to this scene in force when season 2 comes out.

    • @whitemouse2460
      @whitemouse2460 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@EnclaveEmily In Dr.Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb by Stanley Kubrick, 1964, US generals and high ranking officers meet in a "War Room" to discuss the main plot point. The War Room consists of three key details. A round table with participants around it. A circular, halo-like lighting fixture. And black and white map on the wall in the background.
      FTV's VaulTec's meeting room is a scaled down version of it.
      In the same movie main characters discuss future of the world after the nuclear exchange. DrStrangelove describes, essentially, nuclear-powered vaults and goes on to ramble about rebuilding of post-nuclear society with other characters weighing in.
      You can find rambling scene on youtube under the title "Dr. Strangelove - Peter Sellers - "An astonishingly good idea""
      War Room itself can be seen nicely in "Dr. Strangelove (2/8) Movie CLIP - No Fighting in the War Room (1964) HD".

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll make a note of this

  • @Bob-the
    @Bob-the 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember kids, this angry man is only mad because Bethesda made it, i assure you if obsidian made this exact same show he’d be head over heels

    • @Pakotugudugudugudugudugudugu
      @Pakotugudugudugudugudugudugu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro

    • @Mirthful_Midori
      @Mirthful_Midori 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You, Bethesda fanboys, desperately need to come up with some new lines. All you know is to accuse others of being fanboys and deflection.

    • @Bob-the
      @Bob-the 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mirthful_Midori never have I said I was a Bethesda fanboy, I’m just saying some people find anything to be mad about just for the sake of the brand that made it, calling him a fanboy wouldn’t a accusation. For christ sake his entire channel is dedicated to one fallout faction, if that isn’t fanboy behavior I don’t know what is. I mean he says the pregnant woman scene was fetish material when at the same time there was a 13 year old actor playing a character that promotes hookers and gambling in new Vegas

    • @Mirthful_Midori
      @Mirthful_Midori 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bob-the You're not fooling anyone, Bethesda fanboy. Keep voting on your own noise, but I'm done humoring you.

    • @Bob-the
      @Bob-the 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mirthful_Midori no wonder your defending him like this, your “a top commenter” get his balls out your mouth, quit with the cringe cool guy act and form your own opinions

  • @BuppyBabsTag
    @BuppyBabsTag หลายเดือนก่อน

    Err Emily. I need your opinion and such. Should i Remake the entire Fallout tv series??

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BuppyBabsTag wdym

    • @BuppyBabsTag
      @BuppyBabsTag หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EnclaveEmily I mean like do u think it's a cool idea that the Fallout Tv Series should be remaked? Like into actually something that is.. fallout and not Crap? That focuses on the actual apocalypse and lore from fallout?

    • @BuppyBabsTag
      @BuppyBabsTag หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EnclaveEmily do you think i should do it?

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  หลายเดือนก่อน

      if you want

  • @dangi6516
    @dangi6516 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Soooo , we have Repcon that was taken over by RobCo ( and for some reason they make milk machines tf ? ) , we have Big MT that isn't even corporation and their representative is the time-traveling Gizmo who pretends to be Frederick Sinclair .... but we don't have General Atomics , Mass Fusion, Poseidon enery , Nuka Cola .etc It's a pity they didn't put HHT there, it would have been funny at least .

  • @DeadlyFork06
    @DeadlyFork06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New video dropped, We click

  • @ShemPayne
    @ShemPayne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You don't sound like an Emily.

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But I do sound (and am) correct

    • @ShemPayne
      @ShemPayne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EnclaveEmily Okay mister.

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have been owned and all my arguments disolved.

    • @navegandoporlahistoria
      @navegandoporlahistoria หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bet you don't look like the Moon

  • @franciscoOrellana29
    @franciscoOrellana29 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like the show but those final scenes in the final episode are pretty bad

  • @yochill6266
    @yochill6266 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    glad to see u branch out from the degenerate hvh community and make a community of your own cool to see and i hope your doing well

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @yochill6266 Hope the same for you too. Thanks for the kind words

  • @MrManfhis
    @MrManfhis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey! Hope you're doing better!

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A little bit!

  • @KristianD3
    @KristianD3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with your points but you need to calm down a bit lol

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@KristianD3 it's part of the character

  • @SPJJones
    @SPJJones 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love you

  • @lwlnexus1377
    @lwlnexus1377 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You did an excellent job explaining why this show is absolute trash!

  • @johnnyyuma5747
    @johnnyyuma5747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you say how it isn't House in the meeting frankly i dont think its meant to be as it clearly isnt Westek as they got the name wrong. it isnt "rob-co" its robco, its not "west-tek" its Westek. a small detail but once you see it you cant stop seeing it

    • @chuck_muckle
      @chuck_muckle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you got to be shitting me johnny

    • @johnnyyuma5747
      @johnnyyuma5747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chuck_muckle seriously read the names of the companys in front of House and the others and its not the same as in FNV and trust me once ya see it/ notice it ya wont unsee it

    • @chuck_muckle
      @chuck_muckle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnnyyuma5747 do you really think thats supposed to mean theyre completely different companies?

    • @johnnyyuma5747
      @johnnyyuma5747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chuck_muckle no my point wasnt they are different companies just that its another small "mistake" the show made i cant unsee now i have noticed it

    • @johnnyyuma5747
      @johnnyyuma5747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chuck_muckle no it dosnt mean they are different companie's aside from the fact those shown running them act and talk in a polar oppersit way to every player knows them to be; its another small detail the show got wrong and that after seeing it i cant never not notice and while its petty its the countless small "mistakes" that brought us to this show in the first place

  • @DoomUvb
    @DoomUvb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sup

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sup

    • @DoomUvb
      @DoomUvb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @EnclaveEmily have you seen Charalanahzard take on the fallout tv show It's pretty bad

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have not

  • @joeunicornio3874
    @joeunicornio3874 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Idk man it's actually embarrassing to not only be proud of this rant, but call it your "best" one, oof

    • @NJHProductions512
      @NJHProductions512 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@joeunicornio3874 it was pretty good rant, I’d say one if the best as well.

    • @paloim
      @paloim 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What an intellectually vapid comment

    • @EnclaveEmily
      @EnclaveEmily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I'm open to criticism. I just need to be told the issue and a proposed solution

  • @66bloodmoon
    @66bloodmoon หลายเดือนก่อน

    Emily I see you!!!