OFFICIAL SONY a7R V pREVIEW: ONE MAJOR NEW FEATURE!!!
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What do you think about the "one NEW Major Feature"???
It's a crazy feature! Instead of putting dual diode in every pixel they found a way to compensate it in software. And it's good for future AF updates because it unlocks any AI AF possibilities with just firmware updates instead of waiting a new camera with faster processor. A processor working aside of the main processor instead of making it busy and overheat with the time is a good thing.
Thank you for the great preview !
The new features are great. but i have a question, why don't they make cameras with the AI image processing technology used in smart phones? like the crazy stuff that an iPhone or the google pixel can do? wouldn't this take things to a new different level?
Won’t drive me to sell my a7rii for landscape nor switch from
Canon for sports. This is an amazing landscape camera, but R5 blows this away as an all-subject, high MP still and hybrid camera.
I like the new features, but the screen takes the cake. I'm one of the few that don't like flip out screens, and this screen for me is the best "hybrid" option available. I am hoping that future alpha cameras get the same usability this screen offers with its ability to articulate like it does.
Definitely the freedom of new screen rotating, and no conflict with side-kick gimbal head finally
That screen is the best of both worlds. Game changer.
A7RIV owner here… thank you for this, I truly appreciate it. I do t do much sports photography, but this focus system is going to be clutch for weddings when your subject is working through the crowd. Keep up the great reviews!
great point.
@@froknowsphoto definitely an awesome camera for photos and a huge improvement for video but I'd really like to see a hybrid camera with a stacked ~30MP sensor AND uncropped full sensor readout oversampled video. 6K60p uncropped oversampled and 4K60(/120p) should be within the realm of possibilities when the Canon R3 is also able to do it even if the body is larger!
@@jonasgillmann did you just describe the A9iii? 😅
@@willypupo89 Well if the a9iii turns out to be just that than yeah I guess so :D Hopefully the a9iii will actually use a ~30MP sensor though. 24MP is great if speed is all you want but a slightly higher resolution sensor would be very welcome. A nice middle ground!
Does the a7r4 shoot really well with astrophotography...?
finally a screen screen that can rotate the way i wanted. best of both world (old and new)
Was wondering when the rear screens would work this way. Seems the best solution overall.
I'm here for the "Train detection" lol.
For a non Sports camera it did an outstanding job of tracking and keeping on the subjects.
Absolutely it did
I’m glad he mentioned focus bracketing. I’ve been looking at the info on this camera for a while and no one mentioned it. The fact that it’s in body in a Sony now is actually a HUGE deal
DPReview mentioned it in their quick review
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Exactly my thoughts!
Sounds like a killer camera. Seeming more video & photo centric than we all thought. Also 7fps bursts aren’t very fast. I’m surprised.
I mean, the a7IV has only 33MP sensor and it only shoots 6.33 FPS uncompressed/lossless compressed RAW, even with the fastest CFe card on the market. Only shooting in fully compressed RAW gets you those marketed 10 FPS... I'm guessing the A7RV is the same.
@@nogerboher5266 Thats a fair point. Im just thinking about canon and there speeds, even in the r5
Wonder what kind of "photocentric" cases where more than 7fps burst are needed.
@@Battlem0nk Not many, really. Across all photography fields, over 90% of photography is shot in singles, especially the higher up the pyramid you go, towards the big names in photography.... It is only in very, very, very specific cases, where photographers shoot in continuous mode - and even when they do shoot in continuous, it's usually just to get additional shots.
The only fields where photographers consistently might want to or in some cases need to shoot in continuous modes, are ''blue collar photographers,'' shooting sports, wildlife, weddings and similar... But these people make up for less than 5% of the entire photography industry.
The whole ''THIS CAMERA CAN SHOOT THIS MANY FPS AND THAT CAMERA CAN SHOOT THAT MANY FPS!!'' is a marketing scheme for the average consumer (and for blue collar photographers), over 90% of photographers neither need nor ever shoot in anything other than single shot mode, again, especially the further up you start looking into the photography pyramid.
@@Battlem0nk action
As A7R IV owner and stills shooter I’m disappointed ..
Sony focused on improving feature thats not the first priority for stills shooters and that’s what the R series for!
As you mentioned camera can lock on in everything I don’t need these silly train and cars options as much as I need better ISO performance in low light ..
I didn’t want to see too much effort in enhancing videos which I’m not going to use more often over enhancing sensor for stills and action in second place, again this is R not S .. it’s for landscapes, wild life, Astro, which all Depends In sensor performance for stills.
They could have improved image quality a lot better by using stacked sensor that will give me much better ISO and at least 15FPS as an actual upgrade to the sensor performance since resolution is not changed !
Unless Sony is intentionally planing to shove up video capabilities over stills in every camera since there’s a growing demand for video as one of their officials says .. I don’t understand this upgrade,
and it’s just a camera with better AF for me.
I think Sony was thinking to make a Canon R5 killer, but don't want to threaten a1. Thus Sony use the cripple hammer
@@zegzbrutal exactly .. protect the A1 for now and maybe preparing A9 iii and A1 ii .. that explains why they don’t provide even the simplest firmware updates.
For sports Sony A1 30fps and stacked sensor is still king. But that new screen is cool for vertically angled photos as well as standard horizontal angles, that you don't have to look from the side like the older flip outs.
When is the Sony a1 replacement coming out I want to by the a1 in January
A1 is like 2x the price. Of course it's king. An like the other commenter, I'm hoping to be able to pick one up when the A2 comes out.
The A1 with that screen would make it the perfect camera even if I won’t be able to buy one.
Things are looking good with this tech for the a9 III.. stick that a7IV’s 33mp sensor but the crazy fast readout stacked version in it.. gold
I think it's finally time to upgrade, had my a7iii since release and switched to only photography a while back. This camera seems to be perfect for me
I'm in the same situation...but probably i,will go for an used a7riv or a a7iv new...for the same price...
@@FrankP83 yea the a7 iv seems to be a nice sweet spot for Sony shooters
@@FrankP83 a7iV i think ! It's beast for the price
@@FrankP83 same still cant decide between a7iv or a7r5
Yeah I'm in the same boat. Still rocking my A7III and was really considering the A7IV but still kinda complacent. This RV looks really good.
Hi. First I Love your videos thank you.
I would really love to see a setup video for those of us just getting into the mirror less camera world and starting with this camera, it’s packed with such a large menu and I’m new to Sony.
Thank you
I have an a7iv and use it primarily for video and I want to get into photography as a business. Just trying to get others input if it would be worth the upgrade.
Coming from having the A7iii since to released, I can't wait to get my hands on this. I shoot Real Estate and architecture.
Actually speaking a7iv is enough in my opinion if you still need 61mp a7riv is a great option I think, but welcoming a new generation camera is acceptable
even before the Sony official release 🤣
Great video jared. Waiting for the comparison video with R5
I want this camera! Have the A7IV and this will replace as my main. Now, how do I fund this? 😩
The Sony A7RIV was the first full-frame Sony camera that didn't have that 30-minute video recording limit.
I’ll probably get this as it’s actually an upgrade of my current. And I don’t need the fast fps with massive rolling shutter. Then I rather get a A9iii or A1
...If I hadn't gotten into Bird and Wildlife a year ago (sorry Jared! :P ) and bought an A1, this would be my dream camera... As it is this will be my 'backup' camera to my A1; the A7RV is a far better '2nd camera' option than the A7IV. BIG FEATURE NOT MENTIONED: For videographers out there, Focus Breathing Compensation(!!) is now offered, along with Focus Mapping, though Sony mentions that lens software updates will be necessary... The new fast access menu is a Godsend to many of us Photographers who also do video... The video looked great, and can't wait to try it Thurs and Friday in New York at Sony Creative Space!
As a Birder Photographer... it make sense for the upgrade from the A7RIV. Thank you.
Big game changer for me finally bringing focus bracketing to Sony just as I was considering jumping ship.
Please don’t waste your money upgrading to this camera. I returned mine this camera does not offer you better immage quality and clarity as they advertised. AI chip not sure what it is doing but still I have got many focus issues on my photos
Operator error.
What would be an equivalent product?
As a person who just uses a a6000, the menu is great. I never used the full frame sony cameras so I'm not sure if they use a different menu system, but why not just keep it the same? I agree on that part.
Lowlight : I fear that for low-light (iso 40'000) the a7r3 (42mp) might still be considered better then A1 and A7R5 (I'm specialized in creating A2 sized Fine Art Prints -in monogrome).
If Buffer, AF and price out of the way how would You say (best first )
R3 R5 A1. or
1 3 5 ?
What are Your thoughts or experiences ?
Jared, would you choose this over an A1? I have an A7RIII, A7RIV, and A9. Im tring to decide between the A1 and A7V
It makes complete sense at 9:41 ish that you missed focus. You hit focus on 10 and then moved to hit the shooter but your focus frame had the player you focused on in white in the same spot that 10 had just been when you previously focused so the camera was trying to be smart and keep him in focus.
Sony needs to put that screen on every camera.
Yup. The Sony cripple hammer was hard at work for the past 10 years with the LCD screens being worse than the Rebel line from Canon. This new one though looks amazing because I generally hate flip out screens. This is the best of both worlds and it's not the usual Sony potato quality.
@@77dris I also hate the flip out screen. However I do think this system is the best for everyone, instead of only pleasing one crowd
I laughed so hard at 19:53 - I'm crying🤣
I hope Sony would give us the focus bracketing on a7IV and a1 soon. Too bad pre-buffering isn't available yet.
I doubt the a7 iv will be able to do the focus bracketing, as it doesn't have the new autofocus processor of the a7R v.
@@cyberman8080 focus bracketing doesn't require any fancy autofocus. Even Panasonic cameras and their dog shit focus can do it
@@cyberman8080 fuji xt series have it as well
This is great, I was waiting for a camera with "train detection". /sarcasm
You have to have 4K 60p in EVERY camera to shoot slowmo real estate videos of course. Duh. But why settle for that when 4K 120p exists?
Dude with the fro pack and with my new canon r6 I feel like a pro 😊I only bought it because I saw your review and I pulled the trigger
I was wondered, in silent shooting does can you still put a transmitter for you strobe and it will still sync the flash?
I know for older generations you couldn't sync the flash on the silent mode.
Good review. I shoot track & x-country races & the AIV works fine for me, despite lower fps. I’m not upgrading. Also, for events & portraits I don’t think the V will make a difference, but I enjoy watching these reviews 😊.
Sony did a fantastic job updating the 7R line so that now the 7R4 goes down a couple of hundred bucks and then the 7R3 would fall even further in price so that finally I could go ahead and buy a 7R2 used from Ebay.
I can tell you this, as a Nikon shooter, I would like Nikon to mimic two things from the A7RV in the next gen Z7iii….better AF, that multi-variable screen. Most of what I do does not involve the need for high speed AF, but it is nice to have it there when needed. Bottom line…after regularly shooting film, all these cameras blow my mind when I come back to them…
After the sony video, will watch your video Jared. Never been so hype up for a new a7R camera overall. The a7RIV wasn't a big and major upgrade from teh a7Riii, but the a7RV is like a crazy new upgrade!!!!
the a7R IV was a MAJOR upgrade over the a7R III, huge in fact.
@@froknowsphoto agreed! Currently own the a7R3, a73 and now an A74 and the 4 is a huge upgrade from the 3. For photos the upgrade gap is a bit smaller from the r3 as I took both my r3 and the 4 out to the pacific air show with a 2x teleconverter and found that the 4 had better tracking but the r3 sharper images. Check offerup, you can get a iv for a good price.
Just curious what do you think about taking photographs with the a7r5 on the tracks? Does it do well? 🤔
I am looking forward to getting my hands on this one to try out that flip screen. I recently got the a7iv and I love it. Awesome channel by the way.
Is the autofocus a lot better than A7RIV?
As a Sony fan (as well as a fan of almost everything else ...) this was quite helpful. Thank you!
Thank you for the video. I own the A7RIV and A7IV and I’m considering selling them both to get the one A7RV since the feature set appears to cover both and then some, like the new IBIS and AF along with the upgraded EVF @ 9.4 Mpixels, and larger 3.2 inch rear display with new capability and higher resolution. What do you think?
Great videos Fro! Does this have any 1080p video formats? Thanks.
will wait and see what Nikon upcoming cameras. if they have one similar to z7ii with the LCD can be rotated not just tilt, I will go for it.
Great review Jared. I was considering the Rv for studio portraits, but will stick with the A1. It produces excellent results and you can’t beat the all around performance.
best in class
I´m considering A7R5 new or A1 used and need ask what about fast movement of for example dog running opposite the camera? Is the AF od A7R5 so fast as A1? Are the new AI processor balance stacked sensor ans speed of AF of A1? Here in this video players moving fast but they are far and goes from left to right mostly, so camera don´t have to change focus distance so much. I have big beetle in my head what will be better canera. I´m feeling A1, but used still more expensive than new A7R5. I´m amateur who is technical enthusiast but shoot only for pleasure from it. Thanks Petr
Hmm..i saw this camera live last weekend and it does those 10FPS ez with uncompressed raw and even the buffer doesnt come to an end.
I like the Sony's philosophy about the menu systems... Maybe I am weird.
Wow this camera is so good and amazing love it
Yea but with the R5 you need the lenses and with no 3rd party support for lenses, your paying way more for canon now then Sony
I can afford it as a pro
Sony 1st party lenses aren't cheap either.
3rd party is only welcome for enthusiasts.
And Canon has the EF line up to support. RF has ok high end & low end lens, with EF filling the mid range for the time being.
Great video 👍
Pulsating autofocus problems indoors are from flickering lights - typically LED and fluorescent lighting.
Similarly, at night outdoors LED lights on structures and vehicles will jam the autofocus mechanism.
Also, at your sporting shoot, there was a long LED video display in the background with flickering lights so, that may have helped to confuse autofocusing onto the wrong person -- just a thought 🤔
That AF looks amazing tbh. To be clear though, this isn't the camera for action/sports photography, the A1 is there for that. This is for high-res stills, landscapes, wildlife but less BIF photography. It doesn't have the FPS to be a prime body for professional use but seems to be competent across a wide range of applications. A solid upgrade for those still using A7R III!
I am still using a7r2 😅
@@Tienuyan same. looking into a1 potentially as I shoot a bit more "action" stuff.
@@Tienuyan and this A7Riv has the burst rate of your A7rm2.
That's what I call a nice regression.
If you're into action photo with your A7R2, it won't be the fps that will change your world. More the buffer, probably the keepers, but I'm not even sure of this as it depends of the lenses used.
@@actionphotopassion5082 my set up is a7R2 + 35mm f1.4 GM, 55mm 1.8 Zeiss, 16-35mm F4 Zeiss , for Landscapes (@uyantien) and Portraits (@portraitsofvibes) ~
My landscape has not need for anything above my R2 but sometimes portraits I lack the eye focus, since I mostly shoot female portraits night street photography or in low light room conditions. But i manage with “manual” focus.
No, Canon is definitively not an option because they don't seem to allow 3rd party af lenses.
Is this a mirrorless camera?
What's is your experience with rolling shutter issues in combination with photo's? I mean... I have read that this camera has issues with rolling shutter and video, but is this also noticeable with taking photo's. Sports photography is my man thing...
In reality, your client will never know the difference between any work shot on the A7RV and the A7IV for photo or video PERIOD.
Yes, The screen is amazing on the A7RV, but let's be real that should be a standard feature on EVERY sony camera. If you're a serious photographer you wouldn't be watching this video and already own the A1 and are pissed off that you don't have a dope screen that should have been on every camera 4 years ago.
For someone like me who shoots mainly video but is a passionate photographer, the A7IV is way better bang for your buck considering Im not wasting 1,500 dollars. I could take a vacation at that point... you get my point.
I mostly film gym HIIT class workouts/crossfit training so I'm thinking this might not be the Sony upgrade for me. Coming from an a7iii. Wondering which Sony camera to upgrade to
I’d imagine an A7 IV might be solid for you. But idk if it will be as much of an upgrade as you’d want
i think we're starting to approach another plateau here, as this camera doesnt feel that much better than its predecessor. The same way latest dslrs didnt differ much from one another as they were comming up, sony's mirrorless cameras seem to be doing the same... until they start bringing stacked sensors all around or computational features that one can actually relly on. What do you think? Or maybe they got the technology and they're just waiting for the competition to catch up so they can keep bringing money in for longer time before making big steps again. Idk... if i were a 7riii/iv shooter wanting to upgrade, i'd probably jump straight to the a1 because this wouldnt be worth the cost. The tilt screen is very neat though
I see a bit the same pattern as you.
But moreover it is accentuated by bs from Sony.
This camera is easily able to shoot 12fps uncompressed raw and that's bugging me. It's just that Sony doesn't want the R line to compete with the A9 line. That's bs from the manufacturer.
I could be interested to get this 61mpx sensor coming from 42mpx sensor, but I can't accept to go from 12fps to go down half of this. Do I look like a stupid or what... Since the Riv the burst mode is more and more crippled.
Burst modes:
A7Rm2 < A7Rm3 > A7Riv > ARv
So since the R3 something wrong happened as the hierarchy isn't following the right order.
Excellent video as usual Jared. I have a question I have about a six month old Sony a 74 I bought it primarily for the video capabilities and I do like that 35 megapixel photo side. Now this a sevenR4V has 61 megapixels it looks like the video will be about the same maybe a little bit of auto focus which really hasn’t been a problem for me but I’m wondering with that 61 megapixel make a big difference in the quality and sharpness of my photographs. Or do you think I’d be just fine keeping the E 35 megapixel a seven IV
That pulsating focus happened to me with a 24 1.4 GM and the A7r III and I had to return the lens, Sony told me the it was because of an option on the menu that was new by the time that lens came out. Probably not good communication between a new lens and an old camera
I own a7riv ,and I got this one pre ordered so excited to see what this camera can do
⭐ the importance of 60/50p 4K is for the option of slow motion in post, lots of wedding videography is shot this way⭐
To not say that the Ecosystem of Canon is the worst and most expensive ..: for me, here, in that made for it in context, equates to wilful deceiving.
What? As a full time professional I would choose the canon and RF lineup for whatever money it was.
@@froknowsphoto Enough so surprizing then (again; to knowlegable people who are talking to people expecting open advise) that it then should also have been stated there !
Why don’t you just come out and say that you are a canon fan boy and say that’s all you will shoot with?
@@froknowsphoto If you where a fulltime photographer (whats wrong, or different, with part time professional photographer ? You mean If you had not to calculate with sustainability of your YT business model ? 'BTW' : are your followers fulltime pro photographers you need to educate ? No? Is it Fox-like entertainemt, not Fox-News ? I stand with my statement.
Worst part is, canon is more natural for me at least to shot with since it’s the camera brand I have been taught to use, by media/communication at school, I am used to canons GUI and menu and button placements it feel more familiar. I am used to use 250D and 850D
train spotting is real big in europe, every time im on a train I always see people taking photos of them. Also, fast cars like at a raceway or drift/rally? yeah its smart to have that lock on for the same reasons, I want a photo of this car, and it moves fast, next to other ones. sounds similar to the soccar game. dont understand the confusion
For a stills photography only with a mixture of lower light, action (stage) would you defer to the A1?
have you tested this camera in a hot situation to see if it turns off
The Train AF functions I feel is made for train otakus in japan. Those guys are mad train fanatics, lugging their camera gears anywhere near a railway line.
Love the music & couldn't agree more about the Bird photography 🙂
Did they fix the sensor dust problem that plagues these bodies?
Great review Jared. I am going to buy one - in about six months when the as yet still to be discovered bugs are exterminated.
I don't need high frame rate speed shooting nor, do I care at all about shooting video. I shoot still images of subjects that tend to stand still! My goal is capturing a quality, RAW image that I can then have my way with with wanton, Photoshop abandon!
What lens would you recommend that would go with with this Sony that would enable me to get truly superior images and, that would have the range of zooming from extreme close ups, to portraits as well as decent (not a major priority) landscapes?
This likely will be the last camera I invest in as my speciality is not taking images for others per se but for my own artistic use and then producing fine art prints for sale.
I don't want a fixed lens or anything heavy.
I also, given Canon has decided to exclude 3rd party lenses, don't want anything to do with any Canon. It's this Sony I want.
Anyway, if you have any suggestions for a lens, it would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you for all the information.
Any idea how can anyone edit raw photo files from this camera? Or are we still hanging…. And there’s any idea how long of a wait in average for integration over Lightroom, iPad, etc.
Running with the same issue
I have the Sony A7r3 for general shooting, I just need one to shoot bird specifically. So I skip this upgrade and wait for A9 III, with 45 MP and much faster shooting (hope better AF too).
So what camra should I get sony 7v or canon r6 2 for my first camra?
Love your videos Bud 🙏🏼 Question - why don't you put your ISO onto Auto for those situations where players are running in and out of shadows to nail exposure instead of letting them go +/-1? I've wondered often if it affects the ability of the camera to compute other decisions since I know the sensors and processors can only do so many computations per minute, is this your logic behind that?
I’m wondering the same thing
I think there is a good chance Sony will bring the Autofocus and CPU down to the lower, more affordable models in the line up. That would be really good, I could use a faster travel camera. The autofocus on this R7IV is so good, I hope they will bring this down to the hobbyist models. APSC should be next with this autofocus.
Why do you hate bird photography 😭
Really have a mixed feelings about this camera. Was hoping for a upgrade in dynamic range and maybe cleaner raw files (well this is still question mark but it seems no improvements compared to RIV).
Plus whats up with the 10fps mechanical shutter and the silent shutter only four..? Canon is on another planet with their specs with fps.
Though the huge megapixels are still there, ibis seems good and the autofocus has been improved. Only if they would have invented something new and exciting for the photography people.
@jared where are the RAW file uploads for that temple game u shot PEOPLE WANTED TOO TRY THEM AND & etc
why cant they have a compressed file with a special pixel binning algorithm that CAN be upsized only should you need it?
Where do I find this "Train Detection"??
I was about to order the A7s III but just saw this release. I do mostly indoor studio video. Which would you suggest?
The A7iv is an amazing value. Much cheaper than both and is fantastic for video.
What do you think - are they going to add focus breaketing to a7 mark 4?
Thank you for the reminder about trains and tracks!! Keep reminding folks, you could save lives!!!!
Hey Jared, do you know if the VG-C4EM Grip will work with the Sony A7r5?
How does this compare to the A7 Siii for video???
Dang, this camera sounds really good, and I'm in the market for a new one. My only gripe would be 4K 120, but I've seen the 1080p 120 on this, and it looks impressive, not sure then that I would need the 4K 120. Should I wait a little longer for newer cameras or is this the latest from Sony's flagship lineup? I'm in no real rush, but it would be nice to have a new camera by May 2023.
That updated autofocus looks nice, but I'm not sure it justifies an upgrade from my a7rIV. And consider me dumb with memory cards, but the a7rIV can't use CF cards can it? That option would be nice on the a7rV, but not sure if that's worth a ~$1.4k upgrade for what would be considered hobbyist photography.
imagine if you sony gave the option to shoot raw 26 mb uncompressed at 15-20 fps that’d be great
I have no doubt this camera can shoot 12fps uncompressed 61mpx raw.
The buffer is gigantic and the cards supports the speed piece of cake.
It's just bs crippling from Sony. Like if A9 or A1 consumers are the same as the R line. That's just stupid thinking from Sony.
@@actionphotopassion5082 Sony becomes old Canon
Low frame rate kind of kills it for me. I tend to shoot air shows and racing, I don’t need dedicated sports car speeds, but the R5 is definitely more along the lines of what I’m looking for.
Jared, the A1 does 30 fps at 50 mpx, or does 50 mpx no longer count as high mpx?
Sony menus are ocean deep 🌊
Is the screen full touch control? I mean like Canon?
yes
Jared shot in Jpeg, and Ken Rockwell is smiling. 😛
You hate birds? How darrrrre you?!!! 🤣
Legend says he is still holding that yellow paper