WoW Classic Race Picking Guide - Horde Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- A video covering all of the Horde racials as they were in Classic World of Warcraft.
Part 2: • WoW Classic Race Picki...
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Class picking guide: • WoW Classic Class Pick...
Profession picking guide: • WoW Classic Profession...
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Yes I'm still alive! Sorry this took so long - was a much tougher video to make compared to the Alliance one. Wanted to make sure I did it right. Will have part 2 for you in a few days most likely. Edit: I promised I would update if the tauren hidden range racial made it in...and it did! clips.twitch.tv/DeadTiredHareOhMyDog
Great vid! Hyped for classic wow!
I already watched these types of guides dozens of time but there isn’t any other way of consuming vanilla wow currently :(
You always sound like that 😂
Thank you MSS - you're content IS the bar. Keep raising it for everyone else!
I know what you did... Cosmo Canyon theme for taurens. :D :D :D
0:42 "I'm assuming people won't be watching both videos"
Madseason, you doubt my love for you
i watched both as well :)
same!
Aww =]
Same
I was about to comment something similar lol.
You forgot to mention tauren has the most overpowered racial in the game, beneficial to ALL classes. Your /moo emote is voiced!
I legit scared some one with it. They thought it was an npc!!
@@graemeguthrie8758 underrated comment
"So you'll have about 20 minutes of Super Saiyan Monotone 3"
*hears the same soothing voice*
All is well ^_^
haa- ...
And this...is...to go even further beyond. AHHHHHHHHHHH-
Thumbed up just for that comment xD
@@madseasonshow You mean: And this ... is ... to go even further beyond.
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee......
Troll > Everything else.
Because im regenerating 5hp per second. *And There Is Nothing You Can Do About It*
I bet you're the kool kid at skool
Mortal strike incoming!
For dah Horde
Also, they have that halitosis joke going for them
Say it again and ill mortal strike the
Enough rp for next rank up
LMAO
"And there he was. Just standing there. Regenerating 5 hp per second."
I glared at the troll.
The Troll glared back at me
"And theres nothing you can do about it" The troll whispered. hahahahaha!!!
Where can i find the whole text? it just sounded so funny^^
Aloxel wowhead’s troll regeneration section
I was an orc warrior in vanilla, and rerolling alliance in TBC I really understood the incredible value of 25% stun resist. It's night and day really.
not being stunned by a warrior Charge/Hammer of Justice due to Hardiness while your mounted is the best feeling
not today Satan
Orc is the clear choice for pvp. I didnt realize the impact hardiness had either until years later... Fears in pvp? Warrior fear on long cd, priest fear on 30 sec cd and warlocks. Warlocks dont matter because they are SUPER underpopulated ally side due to 40-50% of horde rolling undead and having wotf.
Warriors have STUUUUUUUNS charge, intercept, grenade, tidal charm, unstoppable force (about 50% or more of all warriors who hit max will get unstoppable and never upgrade it), mace specialization, conc... Needless to say having 30% stun resist is more impactful in a fight with a warrior who will likely attack you with 10-15 stuns throughout the fight while only using 1 fear.
Priests have their 30 sec fear, but honestly... In pvp Spriests will be spamming rank 1 shadow word pain for blackout procs. Most good pvp healers also put points into blackout for the cc/peeling as well... They are going to be landing A LOT more stuns than fears.
All of this considered, even the classes who use fears, rely on and use MORE stuns so hardiness is just better... That doesnt even mention ALL the stuns in the game, impact (fire mage), imp concus(hunter), intimidation(hunter), pounce(druid), bear stun(druid), kidney (rogue), cheap shot (rogue), mace spec (rogue), hammer of justice(paladin) warstomp (tauren-duels) and that is just off the top of my head. Im sure im missing a ton, not to mention itemized stuns other than unstoppable and nade...
*A quick point on unstoppable force. Warriors will account for about 15-25% of level 60s depending on which faction youre playing... This is consistent from Classic poles to private server values and is a repeating occurrence every time a server launches. People KNOW warriors become crazy strong and a lot of people will go warrior due to this. When AV releases, ALL of those warriors will be getting AV rep maxed and using unstoppable (and other rewards) unless they have been able to pick something up in a raid. As time goes on a significant portion of warriors will continue to use unstoppable forever. All the warriors who are dungeon crawlers and dont raid, will have unstoppable for pvp forever. All the warriors who pvp exclusively and arent able to reach rank 14 will all be using unstoppable. A lot of warriors who are in raid guilds but are saving their rolls/dkp for their pve set will all be using unstoppable. I cant stress how significant that weapon is and how common it is. This means that a class that is incredibly bursty and threatening in pvp, that will be heavily populated and ALREADY uses a ton of stuns, will likely be wielding an item with a built in stun and will likely be specced for mace with another chance to stun... Hardiness. Fucks. Warriors. Up.... Hardiness. Fucks. Rogues. Up.
Consider a ret paladin. They have NO gap closer. They can use a consume or try to use terrain to cut you off and gap close... If they are able to close the gap, they have ONE chance - hammer of justice on a long cooldown. In most circumstances, against most classes Rets win condition is heavily reliant on hammer and as an orc you have a 30% chance to completely ignore that stun. Assuming they land the stun, they may have a chance, but if they cant and youre a ranged class? You win without taking damage.
This is the beauty of hardiness. It isnt great against one thing. Its incredible against EVERYTHING. Which doesnt even speak to the other advantages orcs have (depending on your class). Hardiness could be 15% stun resist and it would STILL be the BiS racial for pvp by a fairly wide margin.
Back in Vanilla. Parking my orc warrior in Azshara to get something to drink. Come back and hear: *boing* *pause* *boing* *pause* *boing*, around five times. Sit down, look around. *boing* "Oh someone is here!" Pop bloodrage+demo shout: rogue gets into combat, tries to run away. Gets rooted with hamstring, pops his evasion thing, dies a horrible death, with overpower and HoJ procs, while beeing stunned by mace spec and Unstoppable Force. He missed his sap at least six times in a row.
Justaguyyoutubin this is true for sure , as I am a paladin main. I am holy/shockadin spec, but if you go deep ret repentance helps close the gaps .
I thought I was going to be bored with this but it turned out to be very informative and a testament to how well this stuff was straight forward thought out back then
"A little more dead THAN USUAL" I laughed harder than I should^^
don't worry about ppl who call you "monotone" because you're really not that much. you make excellent chill videos so keep it up man. i haven't even played wow since mists and i still enjoy your vids
i cant wait to enjoy the actual rpg element to this game again
Tauren is easily the best tank for me. I never had problems with threat generation, so I don't see it as very valuable at all.
The 5% hitpoints though, that's just amazing. The reasoning that these only matter when you are in those bottom 400-500 hp is completely backwards of course:
1) The higher your health, the easier it is to heal. Healers can use bigger heals, preserve more mana, let hots do more work, and generally have an easier time.
2) What kills the tank is always damage spikes, which this helps to survive. There might be a time when your healers are (for whatever reason) unable to heal you. This helps you with that.
Yeah his reasoning for that 5% being useless when you're not dipping that low makes no sense. Why have any extra stamina at all then?
My bearform always wrecked shop tanking=)
Someone never made it past molten core
WORLD OF WARCRAFT APPEALS TO THE MALE FANTASY... Men: *Having nightmares from Onyxia Raid flashbacks.*
THAT'S A FUCKING 50 DKP MINUS!
First advice: Never let racial skills or abilities determine your choice of race. (Even if you play priest.) Play the race and the class whichever you feel the most comfortable with. It is RPG. It is more important that you enjoy the game than some random other guy gets your fear ward or that you have 5 more sword skill.
ffarkasm - thanks Mom
You will be staring at your character a lot. If the undead spine sticking out of their shirt is gross don't be an undead. Or if you don't want all the cow jokes and think the troll has the coolest looking shield block for tanking be a troll
Cannibalism was the teabagging of vanilla which makes it the best racial ever
tauren melee range is actually 9 yards, meaning that tauren hunters have NO DEAD ZONE which is massively important when considering playing a horde hunter especially for pvp, where smart mages and rogues would try to stay in the deadzone (out of range of melee, too close for ranged attacks) in order to avoid taking damage from you. I feel like this is a BIG THING that you failed to mention here.
Troll's beastslaying works vs druids in pvp.
Also pretty sure it works on a lot of ZG shapeshifter bosses.
Against Flag Carriers in other words
Skyseer Auto oh shi
Makes me wonder who the real beasts are in this scenario
Zug Zug
Taz Dingo, mon!
May our paths cross again
May the spirits guide you.
Loctar rogar
May your blades never dull.
I'll sound different today because I'm tired
*Sounds the Exact Same*
best warrior race whether alliance or horde is the one that... sparks joy.
Even though in game it suggests that the Undead are cannibals with their Cannibalize racial, in lore its supposed to be they replace damaged body parts with ones from their victims. That is why they can only use this ability on humanoid and undead victims but not beasts despite also being made of meat.
As an old school undead arms warrior who grinded exalted with Alterac Valley, I can inform you that will of the forsaken was invaluable in PvP. The high amount of skilled warlocks who would seduce you with their succubus, or the rogues that would blind you just so that they could use every cooldown on you and chain them until you died, turned that skill into a blessing from above. Chain fearing was also a thing from Warlocks.
I won so many fights that I would not have won if I would have been another race. Skilled Warlocks and Rogues was not something to take lightly in vanilla.
Also, if you did not have a healer that would spotheal you in PvP, then cannabalize was amazeballs between fights.
Had to thumbs up this comment simply for the use of amazeballs.
@Ezra Everything the OP here says was true, for the unnerfed WOTF that lasted 30 seconds. It was the end all be all. This one lasts 5. It's usefull, but it isnt the blanket fear/seduce immunity that could last you a whole fight against a warlock.
@Ezra well not anymore pal
@@Elthenar Exactly! I loved having my 30 second WotF racial! My Undead warrior and rogue both loved it. When they nerfed it to 5 seconds the Undead race became oh-so-average.
You made a good point I hadn't considered as a Tauren Tank... I always thought they were meant for it due to the 5% HP increase, but if that's the difference between life and death for a tank, your healers aren't doing their jobs well...
As a Druid Tauren Healer from Vanilla to Current, I have to shamefully agree. That makes sense.
As a former Troll Warrior in classic, the HP/5 was not something to consider, until you got a lucky string of defensive rolls and you gained just enough hp back to survive the next hit when your group is dead and you finish off the mob. Happened a few notable times for me in dungeons.
You are one of the best wow classic video maker, you take is slow and right to the source 👌
Hooray! I have been looking forward to the Horde version. As someone who missed out on Classic the first time around, I'm trying to research as much as possible in preparation. :)
The bucket analogy is wrong. HP is always good because it provides a buffer. When I was a tank in WotLK, I incorrectly believed that avoidance was the way to go. I had about 22k HP (when other tanks had 35k HP), but I had around 70% avoidance (and they had 40%). What ended up happening is I got gibbed A LOT, but also healers burned through mana faster with me than with other tanks.
That's because if the other tanks got hit for 15k HP, they were still at 60%, where I was down to 25%. So where you could use an efficient heal on the other tank and get them back up, you had to burn big heals on me to get me back up to a safe amount of health (where I wouldn't die on the next swing).
You're not just giving yourself an insurance policy of 5%. You're also giving the healer more breathing room to keep you topped off.
If you are down to 25%, I probably would be using fast heals instead of big heals to at least get you over 50%. It depends on the healer, Paladins fast heals were pretty efficient mana wise, but this is in BC, I admit I don't have vanilla experience in this matter, just BC. I was a shaman healer and I often would not risk a slow big heal if the tank was at 25%, and it's unlikely I would be aware of your avoidance unless you told me. It's actually the bigger health pools that would drain my mana more, and that was usually bear tanks who had more health, but less avoidance. I preferred warrior tanks and maybe Paladin tanks most in BC. Bear tanks just seem to take so much damage. Ideally you should go for a good mix, obviously you want buffer health in case things go wrong, but having good avoidance will make your healers love you.
5% more health could also be more dmg from your healer. It all depends on how well and how risky your healer plays. If your healer only overheals you the 5% are useless. Buf if it enables him to manage mana/spells better and makes him throw a little dmg in it is valuable.
It just goes back to the old wisdom that consistency is always better.
Finally I been waiting a month for this ty madseason!
Called your tank ‘Kyphosis’, after a spine curvature that trolls suffer with... I like it
Wouldn't replacing a single tank item with a dps item more than make up for the Trolls atk speed buff? 5% hp if you have 4k hp is 200 hp, which is 20 stamina. The set pieces of tier 1 have about 20 stamina each.
Thanks dude! Was waiting for this since your alliance vid!
Cosmo canyon during the tauren part, nice little final fantasy 7 touch there :)
You're doing a severe injustice to the tauren HP racial. 5% is massive when talking min-maxing. Berserk provides a completely negligible amount of threat over a fight that it isn't worth mentioning, and will of the forsaken is only useful on two raid fights. Its worth mentioning too that Blizzard nerfed the tauren racial from 5% health to 5% base health (MASSIVE nerf) in Burning Crusade because of how strong it was.
Naw. Taurens are awful. Tanking is about threat. That is it. Orcs generate the most threat. Axe spec is huge and Berserk is not negligible, it is massive in very specific circumstances... That being said, its often unusable for tanking due to the healing debuff. I agree that undead warrior with wotf is possibly the worst class/race combo in game given how many answers warriors already have for fear mitigation - a complete waste. Tauren 5% is... okay? I mean, no one is going to argue that health isnt good for tanking right? But the reality is that low end guilds will bring far more healers than they need and healing will NEVER be an issue. In top end guilds, warriors will be rolling as fury, even dual wielding in many cases to increase threat per second so survivability is not a priority because the MOST important factor is threat per second. Competent healers will be able to keep up tanks. Bosses are very... very... very forgiving. PVE is very... very... very forgiving. You could roll an undead warrior and tank all the content in the game (despite it being the worst tank/race combo horde side) and it wouldnt matter. So either youre min/maxxing and go Orc, or it doesnt matter... If you choose your race for pve and you are min/maxxing, orc is the clear choice for top end guilds where threat is more important than anything else. If you are choosing a warrior racial for pvp, orc is still the optimal choice (by a wide margin). If you are choosing a pve dps for warrior, orc is still the correct choice. Either you choose you race because YOU want to be a tauren/undead/troll... OR you min/max and choose an orc.
This doesnt even mention hardiness... which is the BiS pvp ability ingame. Orcs are broken. I wish they werent, but they are.
@@Justaguyyoutubin tanks are not really using axes or are they? like in the video i thought tf or quel serrar is the way to go?
@@SkeppoGaming Tanking is about threat per second. TPS above all else. On private servers tanks are going dual wield fury with double axes to establish threat. If they need to swap to a shield, they do. But essentially the raid goes BALLS deep for the first 1-3 seconds of a fight, SPIKING threat, the tank then TAUNTS putting him 1 threat ahead of max threat, RAID STOPS DPSing, and he dual wields to create MAXIMUM threat, at which point he equips a shield. This is the most efficient way to tank. You dont need to stand there with a sword and shield. You dont need as much active mitigation as people like to pretend.
Instead of a raid standing there for 15 seconds watching a tank hit the boss and create terrible threat, this method spikes threat and allows the raid to go balls deep RIGHT away. It helps the tank with threat, and thus control and it speeds fights up by A SHITLOAD. Expect the meta to be similar to this on Classic.
As for WHAT weapon tanks will be using. Depends on race and whats available to them. DPS > Everything else. DPS = TPS. Threat matters. You can always swap your weps / shield during a fight if you need extra hp/mitigation.
@@Justaguyyoutubin thx for this detailed answer! so i guess my way to go is def. orc warri. i always thoguht tauren is better for tanking especially in new content when the 5% really matters. it actually should be so when u engange new content with higher item requirements or not? sure when u are full equippt with stuff i understand to generate tps with dual wield but in new content!?
@@SkeppoGaming Quel'Serrar can carry you all the way to Naxx. Thunder fury is the best choice, but farming DM for the book isn't too bad an option for a weapon that can carry you a long way.
Finally! I've been watching and listening ur videos so much lately. I love your work, thank you for it.
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Man, I remember back in TBC when I first tried out WoW, my friends made me make a night elf (boooo) and I decided to go with warrior there (double booooo), but when I saw the undead I instantly knew what side I wanted to be on, and what character I wanted to play. So I made an undead warlock towards the end of TBC, and I eventually leveled him to max in the middle of Wrath. He's still my main today! ^_^
Idc what people say about the story, I still like it, and ultimately even with the flaws of later expansions it does feel cool to be playing a character I've been playing for several expansions. There's a sense of history to all the experiences I've had on that character, and it really does feel like a journey of sorts.
Bring back tier sets tho, Blizz, plz.
The GOAT monotone TH-camr,
About damn time! been waiting for this!
Long time watcher first time commenter! Great vids bro
I don’t follow any of these guide videos..I just like watching them hahah😂😂 cause it gets me excited for the game
Me too buddy :).
Not sure about vanilla but in classic private servers war stomp was effected by spell pushback. Which is pretty significant when fighting a hunter or rogue, pretty important information imo
The Risk of Rain music choice was just inspired! Well done!
Disagree with you on Tauren Racial for Tanks. The extra HP can make the difference between a wipe and a successful fight. Just my opinion :)
Great video though
If you are min-maxing in particular, Taurens are, without a doubt the actual kings and queens of the AQ Tanking Scene
I don't even play WoW anymore but I love watching your vids
Doesn't beastslaying allow you to do extra damage against Druids since they are considered Beasts when in Cat/Bear Form?
Also worth mentioning: The corpse of the cannibalized player disappears, which means he had to resurrect on the graveyard
Surprising pick of having Trolls as the best tanks. I didn't really think about them as tanks before, but I agree with you.
Also am glad you talked about Tauren reach, and how the Blizz Classic servers currently don't emulate that. : 3
Oh they do. Now at least us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-not-a-bug-list/175887?fbclid=IwAR0RVkMOI1ELYWKrBAJcAdhkRtlZXofsGNIGbM5Nel0N5WHNkSyIVhNNUDk
The Axe Specialization for Orcs is amazing for PvE tanking as well. It helps so much with threat. Other races need to get Edgemaster’s or Aged Core Leather Gloves and use daggers to acquire weapon skill. Having Orcs at #4 for PvE tanking is silly. I honestly think they should be #1 MAYBE #2 If a Tauren is willing to grind for Edgemasters bc then the 5% HP increase is very helpful.
You know, I’ve been watching your videos since the early legion days. You’re not as monotone as you used to be. You’re much more relaxed and definitely have more emotion in your voice!
Either way, it’s the most relaxing voice. Thank you sir
If I remember correctly, Berserking can turn shaman's healing touch into 1.8 sec cast at 30% health (for 10 seconds!), which is super useful in both pvp and pve.
I can't stress enough how many times berserking saved my buttocks as a shaman.
30% shamen looks dead to me lol
4:00 MAD respect for using a song from Risk of Rain by the way
Great video, can’t wait for part 2!
Super Sayan Monotone 3 made me LoL and got an interesting reaction from my cat. Thanks for the chuckle!
For the horde!
nah ill pass
minus 8 Pass. So i can kill you in pvp
@@Reippa You kill minus 8 and I cannibalize the corpse. FOR THE HORDE!
Tauren is the best warrior since they look the coolest in the armor.
As someone who has mained a Tauren prot warrior since BC, I 100% agree
The tier 1 helmet though, that's a low point in coolness.
Nah they dont have feet man lol
Orcs, all hail the shoulder pads.
Will of the Forsaken has two advantages over tremor totem:
1) Especially in 5-mans, you might not have a Shaman
2) You can react faster than waiting for a tremor pulse
(Also, your shaman may die)
If 5% total health isn't important why do tanks stack stamina so much?
Once upon a time WoW had actual rpg elements in the game. I'm excited for classic but I'm also waiting for Blizz to be themselves and bastardise it, destroying the entire point of its creation.
That's a pretty masochistic way of viewing it...
I doubt Activision will mess this up. But because it is activision and not blizzard, I can not support this game. As much as I have wanted classic, because the company is no more and they have proven to not care. I will not fund their bad business practices. Even if that means I do not get to play an old favorite.
@@xSiC84 What the fuck are you talking about. Classic is developed by Blizzard's devs, Activision has literally no influence over it at all.
@@Obiika You are foolish to say "Activision has LITERALLY no influence over it" ... that's not how companies work, buddy.
@@H41030v3rki110ny0u Activision has influence over WoW. Not over Classic WoW. The Classic WoW dev team already has a budget and a project, there is nothing that Activision could do to impact that, contrary to what that guy says, yes.
Back in 2006 I rolled Alliance. This time, it will be horde XD
@Fianna 2007 is when BC came out so yes it was Vanilla
Didn't the Troll +5% Beast dmg include Druid forms? This could be important, simply because Druid forms made sticking to Druids as a Warrior a pain, so more damage to them is helpful.
Real talk madseason I love your videos!!! Look forward to every upload
good video but i think its worth noting that tremor totem doesn't work the same way you think it does, it doesn't work like a will of the forsaken or fear ward in the sense that it makes you immune to those effects instead it will remove those effects off everyone in the party every 5 seconds meaning its all reliant on ticks and is in no way an immunity, 2 seconds is more than enough time for onyxia and nefarion to turn around and wipe the entire raid so it definitely makes undead really powerful for tanking
Yeah I’m watching both because these videos are so informative!
In the part about Taurens, I can hear Final Fantasy VII Red XIIIs theme. love it
I'd love to see a video of the best consumables of vanilla.
someone probs already noticed but I'd like to point out that Tauren's increased melee range almost nullifies the hunter's dead zone. So Tauren Hunter is a really good combo imho
Huh that’s a very neat detail, and very fitting considering how relevant hunters are to Tauren culture.
I don't care, ima roll orc prot warrior because carbot animation
that troll's name: Kyphosis. Thanks for that unexpected chuckle
Didn’t even notice change in voice. Good old tired and bored voice as always 👌
I played as a Troll Priest. I remember there were racial Priest spells. Trolls had Hex of Weakness that lowered enemy melee damage and Shadow Shield or something. Had the same appearance as Shaman Ligning Shield but dealt Shadow Damage instead. They were removed in The Burning Crusade I believe.
"orc is the human of the alliance" uhm..
ok
Undead. No question about it : "jumps and plays air 🎸"
Hahaha, forever Undead!
This is either my first or second youtube comment. I just wanted to say thank you for all the awesome content. I'm so nostalgic watching your videos and cannot wait until classic is out. Thank you so much!
Here is my opinion for PVE only.
1. Pick a role (Tank, Melee DPS, Range DPS, Healer). Tank or healer were always in high demand for any PVE guild.
2. Pick a class and a race. Most of these are not really a choice, as you have to be a certain race and class based on your role.
Tank - Tauren warrior
Melee DPS - Orc or Troll rogue or warrior. Rogue can out DPS warriors but there are 2 things to consider. Rogues that go all out on DPS just end up stealing agro, so slightly lower DPS does not matter as much, as both rogues and warriors will be limited by the amount of threat the tank is generating. In addition a DPS warrior can equip a shield and tank a 5 man dungeon which will make dungeon grouping
much easier. The DPS warriors are not nearly as good at tanking as actual tanks but they will do in a pinch. Also sometimes a secondary tank is beneficial, especially if the primary tank is not very good.
Range DPS - Mages and Warlocks can be anything, there are no race abilities that really benefit them. Hunters are limited to trolls. Trolls ability with bows overrides any other consideration.
Healers - Primarily most healers were undead priests. But it's important to have a few shamans and druids in the guild for buffs, battle res and totems. Both Druids and Shamans should probably be Tauren to improve own survivability.
I'm sorry to be so forward, but I actually love you.
Love you too
Yay been looking forward to this one, time to enjoy :)
All about my Draenei... but since they're not in Classic, I'm going with my second favorite: Tauren! Lol I don't really care much about racials overall, so I just want my cute cow. Decided on shaman too, after watching your class overview video.
Guess it’s not super impactful now-a-days. But for me the RP element came into play for my race/class choice. I wasn’t super big into RP but I did take it into account a little bit.
Same - I played undead warrior even though orc was the better choice
Every once and a while I get the urge to play WOW despite never ACTUALLY playing it. I get to live vicariously through you given I don’t have a computer. I thank you for that 🤜🤛
I generally like the video, but come on. Yeah, tank HP is totally unimportant. Having a smaller HP pool is just a problem with your healers.... seriously, what are you thinking here? Don't add points to Stamina because your healers just need to L2P? Who need HP pool when you have more threat?!? Please, forgive my sarcasm. Maybe on Alliance side with massive Pally heal spam? It can matter on any raid. All it takes is lag or a distraction.
Also, 10 seconds of 10-30% increased (with 3 min cd) attack speed made Trolls #1? How often do you auto attack? Every 1.7 to 2.7 seconds, or there about? In a 10 second span, you'll get 4 or 5 auto attacks. So, a 10% increase on a 2.0 sec delay weapon would be only be .2 second faster attacks, meaning you wouldn't even get an extra attack during the 10 seconds. Being able to attack .2 sec faster, for 10 seconds out of every 3 min of actual combat, is almost useless. I would rather have HP pool over that ALL day long.
The cup analogy for the Tauren HP can be seen differently. I see it as a cup that is 5% bigger. That gives you 5% extra fluff to take damage with. Thus bigger hits you take from bosses are less threatening compared to the other races.
Tauren warrior last? But he has *The Sword Of A Thousand Truths*
*-hum-*
I love how you used Risk of Rain OST. Nice vid
The best race to pick is which your heart tell you and not the math.
Also a valid strategy =]
/Moo
Taz Dingo!
Zug zug
*Ben shapiro comes bashing through your windows with a battleaxe and full barbarian armor yelling his signature battle cry* "FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS"
Orc is way better for threat than Troll. Stop for a moment and fucking think, Berserking is a COOLDOWN while axe specialization is always active as long as you have an axe. 99% of the time you will only get 10% AS for a short while since as you pointed out, healers are tasked with keeping you at full life.
Only once you have TF does the advantage Orcs have get evened out. And by then threat is no longer an issue since your weapon is bis until 70.
Troll for tanking is a gigantic meme because people vastly overvalue how strong berserking really is. Just think about it, how many extra attacks do you get out of 10% as for a few seconds? 2? 3 at most? I'm sorry but less glancing blows per attack should be extremely obvious.
When talking about the druid, could you please compare them to other classes that would fill up the same role? For example if we're to level a druid, is it viable to go for tanking or healing, or should we choose something else such certain roles?
You do you bro, watched all ya vids today. Keep it real 🤘🏾
Hamburglar.. I have to admit that made me giggle. :)
Looking forwards to part 2!
Oh it's that guy with that monotone voice again - love him.
"Edgemaster?" Higher up in the scale than Edgelord?
I just love your background music, so much ff music and other games, when you played the risk of rain music i immediately recognized it, keep up the great work man! :)
i would say you are underestimating the value of the tauren hp racial it's useage isn't for farm content it is for progress the tauren racial allows the tank to need less gear inorder to surive stuff. and with the challange of vanilla that is far more important than threat gen.
20:00 that final fantasy x music
Don't care what anyone says. Undead will always be my favourite race!
undead rouge/mage ftw
hell yeah i have a rogue a dk and a warlock and all of them are undead, for wow classic my main is also going to be an Undead \m/
Forsaken > Alliance > Horde.
sry but i pick orc for those super big shoulders!
Once ya go troll, ya nevah reroll mon
I watched both, and I am horde. info is good, and it supports you
Dang it XD playing that diablo II music with the undead.. Makes me want to play some DII again
The bucket analogy doesn’t exactly make sense because it’s a percentage-based buff. That doesn’t just make the “bottom” of your bucket deeper- it makes your “safe” range broader.
3:00 that risk of rain music
If your statement is that you will get thunderfury and so the axe bonus for orc isn't that good as tank, then your whole point of putting troll on place 1 is obsolete. Because with TF you wont have aggro roblems at all. And the nefarian Axe as orc is in my opinion stronger than quel'serrar or maladath, more max damage for heroic strike rage dump, attack power/stamina and overall dps for aggro. But yeah, there are more swords and it is easier to get them cause no one else wants it.
And there are some stun effects specialy with trash packs and in dungeons for hardiness use, but i am not sure anymore if knockdown counts as stun, then there would be more situations for it. Also Blood Fury can help as offtank when you have or want to stay 2nd in the aggro list and know you won't or shouldn't take a lot of damage in the next few seconds. like nefarian if the MT suddenly dies (yeah that happened sometimes, we were bad back then)
So i would surely rate Orc over undead. Specialy cause a tank would stance dance for fears and activate berserker rage for bosses like magmadar, ony and nefarian (at least i did that back in classic). So there is nearly no use for the undead racial. And cause of that i would rate Tauren also above undead, more health was for severall bosses like patchwork with hatefull strike really important and you tried to squeeze out as much HP as you could early on to survive these hits on the second tank, until you outgear him. And let's not forget the add fights, like gluth, or nefarian, or razorgore, etc etc where the tauren stomp can save a partymember with aggro from dying if something goes wrong.
And as soon as you have TF or your aggro is good enough, trolls are 3rd place in tanking. still in front of undead which have nothing for pve, but surely behind tauren and orc. Also a big con for trolls attack speed is, more likely parry haste buffs for the bosses. not that fun to get crushed with a parry haste.
I might be wrong, didn't play Warrior on private servers so they are 12 year old memories, but that are just my thoughts. Love your videos, they keep me hyped
Cannibalize is crazy on Undead Warlock you can drain all your Mana in a fight, life tap to turn your health into Mana then eat the corpse. With the right Talent setup you barely need to drink Mana
There is a caveat to druids who fight trolls. The Bear and Cat form are susceptible to that 5% bonus to beasts.