Minor speed on boots? Casual. To optimize it fully you first need to find a girlfriend. Convince her to have three kids with you. After that you need to let them age to about 5-6 years old. At that point you get all of them WoW accounts and have them level warlocks until they can summon. Now you have your own little summoning team running between the mailbox and the AH for you. Always ready to summon.
@@shtroizn sure thing, blizzard/activision is very well known for its user centricity. Just ask them to postpone vanilla release until 27th of august 2024 and freeze retail as well, just to be sure others don't gain an unfair advantage, while you train your girls how to read dps sheets and find full level 5 BiS items as well.
@@MrHollabk I will petition them :) Problem is, if they accept and anyone finds out it was because of me... I better find a very remote island with no internet, change my name, get plastic surgery done and stock up on lots of firearms haha!
I like to buy stuff like Arrows on my Bank alt. Same with mana drinks and pet food. Buy it on the bank and send it to your main, who then has a 30 Day bank to retriever good/drinks/reagentia from. Never run out of battle res seeds/ahnks/Arrows ever again ^_^
I'd recommend combining Informant with Enchantrix. You can see what items will d/e to, and if those mats will sell for less than the base item on the AH, you just sell the item. Postal looks like a great addon, never heard of it so ty for that :).
Personal suggestion, pick a mage over a hunter/warrior. One, fresh starting out, they're prolly the fastest to hit 5. Two, if you're talking about levelling to get a movement ability, I believe blink > Cheetah for such a short distance. But, if you're going to go that route, level to 20 for portals. If you're wheeling and dealing on your bank alt, having the option to meet your client at any city is a big boon. Thirdly, I'd even recommend eventually getting to lvl 35 on your bank alt. You don't need to level your enchanting to disenchant, but having the option to enchant on your bank alt in any city could make for some deals. However, 35 is pretty time consuming, so I can't recommend it for everyone (Though if you do this, go Enchanting/Alchemy and use Arcanite CD religiously).
Get a Mage to 35 for Alchemy+Transmute master for the Arcanite Bar transmute if you go above level 5. Why Mage? Blink shaves off a quarter of the distance from the AH to the mailbox. You could go Rogue/Druid instead of course, for Sprint/Dash. It's quite a lot to do for a bank alt, but on every private server so far, you get at least 10g pure profit per transmute early on, which drops to around 5g after a good while. That's a lot of money for zero effort. You could always level the Mage to 60 later on if you want to farm Dire Maul trash for gold as well. Alchemy is one of those professions that is ALWAYS relevant. Nobody stops needing pots/flasks/elixirs.
You forgot enchantrix; It comes with a database of possible disenchant outcomes of items, and it also updates that data as you disenchant items, and updates the values based on recent material costs scanned at the AH, sometimes vendoring an item for its value is more profitable than disenchanting it. It can also scan the AH for items posted that has a higher DE value than BO or bid price. Also auctioneer is better than aux because it keeps old data instead of just showing a most recent snapshot. Happy banking everyone.
Best part about having a bank alt? You can list all your stuff on the AH without getting whispers from other players. Few things are more annoying that being 3/4 of the way through a BRD run and have to explain to somebody why, NO, you cannot come to Org RIGHT THIS SECOND and sell them that BoE you have listed on the AH.
As a quick money maker (early on) I usually (while watching videos on TH-cam or something) buy the mats off the AH to make Hillmans Shoulders and either DE or vendor them. Very easy money for someone just starting out.
on a brand new server during i think bc time i made and ran a character to stv arena and got the chest. for a small period of time i was the richest person on the server. >
For those enchanters out there, I would highly suggest having two different prices for giving enchants. One price, the cost of your mats, based on current AH prices, with a small tip included in the price and a much higher price for people who want to bring their own. Since everybody and their mom will have a lv5 alt with enchanting better make sure people use your mats first.
I'll give you the best tip for the ultimate bank alt. Do a Tauren, Thunderbluff, it's the city with the closest AH to the bank, second best is SIlvermoon.
In terms of vanilla Wow, it's hard to remember what I learned in terms of having a bank alt. I do know that I didn't have enchanting on it but simply used it as a mule. Bag addons also annoy the heck out of me. As a very organised person, I had my own system of keeping things organised in my bags - in fact, I still do with every character I roll. The only thing I can say is diversify. Don't stick to one way of trying to make gold. Use your professions, sure. But there are creative ways to save up gold - in Classic, don't expect to be able to charge exorbitant amounts for reagents or crafted items, either. Learn the market; and keep in mind when certain things sell the best, and when gathering agents can be snapped up cheaper.
Geckomayhem haha i started playing when I was 8 in 2005 because my dad also played. He would get so pissed at me when I opened my bags and everything was scattered. You sound just like him
@@kraqkilla3311 I started playing when I was 12 in 2004 (Beta) and I was just like them too, I organized everything in my bags, like mats go in this bag, all gear goes into that one, In the main bag hearthstone was first, skinning knife second, healing pots and then mana pots and then other kinds of pots and other consumables. I refused to get any bag addons for many expansions but I did at last, now I just do the same thing but with "one big bag".
So much good info. I created main n 2 alts. One alt farms and the other stands by the mailbox in SW. Every gold goes to the banker. Both main and alt send 1/2 money made every day, to the banker alt. I never made 5 gold this quickly.
Would add depending on how much you use your alt, getting a hunter aspect cheater, shaman wolf, druid travel helps speed up time around the city. Sometimes you might go AH/Mail/Bank other times you might head of to another area and having the extra speed helps. Its also extremely fun to play bank alt dress up, its an added level of fun for you to play with. Other things include having a pet following you, like the chicken. Engineering to get goggles to look snazzy etc.
I prefer TB to Org. nicer layout, anvil/smelter is very accessible. fishing pond. reagent vendor. Very centralized area for most needs. Possibly better FP for most Kalimdor locations (maybe someone can do the math on that) Not just for bank alts but every toon.
Multiple bank alts based on category of items. IE, one bank for ores and bars, one for herbs, one for consumes. Choose the categories based on your play style.
If you're planning on getting a Hunter to level 20 for Aspect of the Cheetah. You might as well level it to 35 so that you can level your Enchanting all the way to Artisan and actually use that character as a proper Enchanter, sure you won't have the best recipes as some of them are BoP and come from high level dungeons and raids, but you'll still make a fair bit of gold enchanting simple stuff that ever raider will need like +4 to all stats on chest, and the minor speed increase to boots.
20 to 35 is like 4x the time investment than 1 to 20. Actually getting a profession to 300 is quite the investment itself too. And in case of enchanting not profitable at all. Huge money sink. Nobody pays for those low level enchants.
on PvE servers on Horde, one Alliance at Booty Bay as well as one in each faction. During BC originally I found Copper on alliance selling for more than double on horde. Transact via booty bay. Put copper on for 95% of horde selling price. Buy it with your own horde alt. If someone else poaches it - great. You sold it for almost horde selling price. If they don't sell it on horde. Horde alt keeps the cash for the next transfer. If you've got $50 early game get 5 accounts and start your own guild and close 3 of them after a month. 2 accounts for multibox levelling (not botting, no macros - you have to control both characters)
You might want to also have a bank alt sit in Booty Bay, so you can get ally recipes that sell for a lot more! Since they are hard to get as a horde, or have an Ally as a bank alt. I made tons of money in vanilla swapping recipes back and forth and getting stuff on my horde toons that only alliance can usually get. In vanilla the AH was not "shared", it was split. and there were 3 separate auction houses. Horde, Ally and Neutral. You want an Alt for all three and you want to scan it fast and get those recipes / items / etc for either side. And should you get a recipe that sells for a lot, you might want to consider being able to USE it and selling what you MAKE. There are recipes for cooks, and first aide, and other professions that would sell for thousands, not just hundreds. And on the enchanting side, you want to sell the enchants, not the mats. Use the mats to level up.
i for one am scouring the internet for information since i came into wow in BC and my vanilla knowledge/experience is next to none. i can use all the info i can get. so he got one new sub today.
With resting bonus and dragonslayer buff shouldn't take long at all, but it's still a good point - it would take a long time using your alt to justify getting it to level 10.
Blizzard changed this in vanilla so you can't disenchant whatever you want. You needed to skill up in order to disenchant items. I would assume in Classic WoW, Blizzard will make you require to skill up in order to level up enchanting.
No they won't. They said now over and over that such things won't have changes. Private Servers run on 1.12.1, exactly on what classic will be based on.
@@Lyachos Then that's a change. Blizzard changed it in vanilla so it required skill. Did they specific say enchanting will not require skills? To be honest, that's both dump and idiotic decision by Blizzard
@@cflowers2094 Naw I remember that shit being change way before Naxx was out..... definitely wasn't with TBC release or that close to it. Honestly blizz should implement it from start this time imo.
Weapon Valhalla 2.0.1 was the prepatch to TBC when it changed. TBC wasn’t released yet. In 1.12.1 you could still do it. eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/enchanting-in-classic/28636/38
lmao that disenchant window bug used to piss me off. I would be in a dungeon and would have to /reload. For bank alts, it's very useful to have an alt account entirely. That way if you need something from your bank alt you can log in and trade it directly. An additional use of an alternate account is to run it as a "Sniper", where you install addons to scan the auction house and check items against their vendor value and if it costs less than a vendor price to auto-buy it. You essentially run that on an alt account in the background while you're actually playing your main account. People do this on retail all the time. The downside is that you have to wait for mail to come in (2 hours I believe).
The auto-compare trick is pretty damn smart for private servers, but I'm not sure if I'd pay for two accounts on retail. I guess if I'm afk for a while I could log onto the bank alt and auto-buy AH stuff
any more on this? can you use aux to effectively do this? in pserver seems like a no-brainer decision to make a second account for this purpose. thanks for the comment
You don't need Auctioneer and informant to get the sell value of items, Aux has an expansion to it called Aux-Mechant-Price that does the same, and it's way better than running two auction house addons in my opinion.
I did not know if you have Enchanting then you can disenchant every level of gear even if your disenchanting skill is not good enough! Awesome info, thx!
Mid vanilla they changed that though. I remember they did it because people were getting hacked and the hackers would go on their accounts and DE all their gear. So idk how they gonna approach it now with new release will it be like that at start or not?
theres more than 1 addon with the name Aux and there is the one u have said and there is also a simpler verison same with the postal there is a addon called Mail which is almost the same and for Informan there is SellValue
What sever is it you're on here? o: I can't find any blizzlike vanilla server anywhere. The only populated one has instant lv 60, and the 2nd best looking one has 15x xp, so nobody does leveling dungeons /:
dust usually sells for more at the AH than the item at the vendor. some plate shoulders with agi and spirit don't sell at all so you don't wanna put them in the AH and loose your deposit.
Because some items are utter trash and won't sell on the AH at all, because of how bad they are. They vendor for very little; but you can still disenchant them for the same mats as any other item around that level and those mats are far more profitable when sold in bulk at the AH.
Spirit is, agi does not much for warriors, the dmg mitigation from dodge and armor is not worth it. I'd rather disenchant those items and buy better stuff.
@Andrei Georgescu Actually far from it. You don't wanna level as fury anyway because your lack of hit just makes it frustrating. In the later game you wanna get hit until soft cap (at 10%) and then 15 weapon skill (to reduce dmg penalty from glancing blows. Even after this, agi does very little to increase your crit. If I remember correctly only one item from fury BiS list does have agi on it (those pants from Naxx trash) because crit is usually easier to come by and you are generally punished for going after agi instead of str by attack power loss which furys do scale way better with.
any reason you chose warrior for your bank alt? should any thought be put into class when making a bank alt? ill probably just do the level 5 D/E strat.
Thoughts on maxing a mage to use as a bank alt and a gold farmer on the same toon? Or is it better for your gold farmer to not have its bank full of stuff I like going enchanting/tailor on my mages so it seems like a good fit
Depends on the stats and type of green. If a green item is profitable to use for a character leveling, the item could be more profitable to sell at the Auction House. On the other hand, a weapon goes for more at the Vendor, so vendoring a green weapon could be more profitable. Regarding disenchanting, remember that people will always try to level up their professions, and a lot of people find it too tedious to grind instances for the greens to drop. So either they buy the greens from the auction house/vendors, or they buy the materials gained from disenchanting. Most common place to buy Enchantment materials is the Auction House. The pricing differs from server to server. Mostly it depends on how much of the items there is available as well as how much demand there is for it.
Should go several steps further. All your bank alts should have real names, to actually turn them into alts. They all should have professions, and level them high enough to unlock the CD transmute recipes: Mooncloth, arcanite and deeprock salt - Tailor, alchemist and leatherworker. Those transmutes will get you a lot of cash, since people are paying for the cooldown basically. A mage should be one of the first alts, with Tailoring and enchanting, you can can use portals to go anywhere in Azeroth for services, or teleport people for a fee. Tailoring to make bags for you and all your alts for cheap, enchanting do disenchant greens and slowly get some recipes.
@@Kodeations Main has skinning and mining, alt has D/E, just sending all mats and boe from alt to main and it sells like crazy, (Not selling all mining stuff cuz i need it for engi later on).
You can get a mage lvl 40 for portals, great bank alt. Make him tailoring/ench, make bags and DE shit. Then if you really hate yourself, go ahead and get him 60 and get water, he's literally a little vendor toon. Ofc at that point he's no longer a bank alt, but a mage main. =p
The Overall best Bank alt would probably be Level 35 and having Tailor and enchanting maxed. Reason beein mooncloth and endlevel enchanting. More 35 alts with other maxed professions make it even more wealthy. Everyone tailor for mooncloth cd and then another proffession for Money making. Lots of Investments but great Outcome in the end
The tip about the patterns is true even way back in vanilla. On alliance side, there is a specific vendor very far away from Ashenvale far to the west of the zone, and she sells a leatherworking pattern for Herbalist Gloves. vanilla-twinhead.twinstar.cz/?item=7361 The respawn is pretty slow too, so I would leave a character there, load up my bags with patterns for a week or two, then sell them slowly on the AH, one at a time. I was the only person who did it, and there were plenty of people who would buy them just because it's something they didn't have yet. 18s purchase, consistently sold for 5-8g. And even better, it was alliance side only, so I would sell it for even more on the neutral AH to horde. (funny too since the gloves are complete trash, give a +5 to herbalism.
Not always, the dust yield and item vendor value must be factored in, for example, a green dagger will sell for a lot less than a 2H Axe to the vendor but both will yield the same amount of dust. Same for armor, plate yields the same dust as cloth but goes for more than the vendor.
How about non mage grinding spots? Rare valuable drops like the eye of shadow or other things? Dont get me wrong the brd mage farming was super neat but not everyone will have a mage and stuff... Thanks, keep up the good work!
Hi Erin, thanks for the feedback. This is a good topic of discussion and one that's hard to explore. I have had feedback like this in the past regarding the mage class limitation. The problem is I have tried other farms, even "discovered" some new ones myself but every time I fail to at least hit 50g/hour. I feel like If I can't at least do that for the viewer then is it really worth their time? There is the DME farm, yes. Problem with that is you are yet again relegated to the mage/lock/priest and maybe shaman. There is also the ZG farm but again, that's mage only. I even decided to step it up a gear at one point to address this and went as far to go and farm the elites around Kazzak with a couple of friends, since they are raid elites they had a higher chance to drop valuable gear like blues/epics. It was a disaster. The mobs could be killed but they dropped hardly anything. Maybe 20s a time and 7 runecloth. Any ideas?
World of Will i was thinking along the lines of demon farming in winterspring, hunter maybe? Speaking of hunter, i know on my rogue back on nost i bought the preraid BIS tarnished elven ring from a hunter who cheesed dire maul tribute. Stuff like that just seems like fun content to me. Like i understand wanting to have a high gold per hour value and i think stuff like the brd farm is great for that but im sure theres gotta be people interested in seeing what other classes can do with their skill set, even if the gold/hour is lower, you know what i mean? Its just a thought really, just seems like entertaining content if you're up for it.
My preferred hearth location for bankers is a sanctuary city so neither the alt or the auctioneer can be interfered with. Better still is a place like the Wrath Dalaran Underbelly where guild bank, personal bank, and mailbox are within click range. Best of all is a city with maximum portals. Since I'm an all profs fool and an altoholic, I have a lot of guild banks for legacy mats. One of the bankers is my designated auctioneer and central clearing house. My leveling toons mail items to my auctioneer who sorts out the mats for my storage bank alts and my auction bank. All of my bankers train enchanting and engineering so they can use any available AH. This past year or so, I decided to keep my character slots maxed out so I can gain from certain events. The best example is the WOW anniversary. Each toon that logs in for that event receives 500 timewalk badges and can acquire more with the trivia question daily. Those temp toons can then buy heirloom upgrade tokens and reputation tokens for the benefit of my leveling toons. That is a minimum of 25,000 badges for precious little effort. On retail, I play a server that hosts 3 realms which gives me the option of creating all 50 toons on the same server. I mean to play classic and will likely put a bank alt in each of the racial capitals. I expect classic will have one AH for horde and one for ally. Will there be a neutral AH?
20g for enchant haha was even less in wotlk. vanilla price is 1-5 g depends on you'r lvl. I'm an experienced vanilla player and this has to be a bad private server like Kronos
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You forgot the most important buy him a noble outfit
Can we get those in Vanilla?
U can for example make or join to guild to have some nice tabard
Some of the cloth items in the 1-10 starting zones look like suit items, vest, etc.
I used those
White tuxedo, fish or flowers in off-hand :p
Tux, with a flame enchanted mace to keep the gold beggar riff raft in line
The best thing about bank alts is making them look awesome.
My bank alts are always 100% naked as possible.
upvote for truth
Pimp cane. Diamond tipped baby. *ding!*
Mine is a naked Rogue wearing a Red Defias Mask. I sold his other items for money xD
@Popcorn Seller
Why is that lame?
Normally to make money I just create a new character and cry.
It doesn’t make me any money but it does make me feel relieved.
I bummed on the mail box once and made like 20g in an hour.
maybe /cry in a big city could actually earn you something..
Bank alts best spot is Thunder Bluff, everything of importance is all in a small cluster.
Yep. 200 IQ Bank Alts stay in TB. But it makes lockbox opening a bit of a pain since most Rogues hang around Org in front of the bank.
Also it's one of the coolest looking cities in the game
Minor speed on boots? Casual. To optimize it fully you first need to find a girlfriend. Convince her to have three kids with you. After that you need to let them age to about 5-6 years old. At that point you get all of them WoW accounts and have them level warlocks until they can summon. Now you have your own little summoning team running between the mailbox and the AH for you. Always ready to summon.
I have only two girls... one is 3 years old, the other 9 months old. Can WoW Classic be postponed for about 5 years?
@@shtroizn sure thing, blizzard/activision is very well known for its user centricity. Just ask them to postpone vanilla release until 27th of august 2024 and freeze retail as well, just to be sure others don't gain an unfair advantage, while you train your girls how to read dps sheets and find full level 5 BiS items as well.
@@MrHollabk I will petition them :) Problem is, if they accept and anyone finds out it was because of me... I better find a very remote island with no internet, change my name, get plastic surgery done and stock up on lots of firearms haha!
Playing the long game eh?
LOL
I like to buy stuff like Arrows on my Bank alt. Same with mana drinks and pet food. Buy it on the bank and send it to your main, who then has a 30 Day bank to retriever good/drinks/reagentia from. Never run out of battle res seeds/ahnks/Arrows ever again ^_^
I love the boot enchant tip for the bank alt. Absolutely brilliant min/maxing.
If you have the patience, lvl 20 shaman is probably the best bank alt, ghost wolf, and lvl 20 will probably only take a week. Depending :/
I'd recommend combining Informant with Enchantrix. You can see what items will d/e to, and if those mats will sell for less than the base item on the AH, you just sell the item. Postal looks like a great addon, never heard of it so ty for that :).
good idea with enchantrix!
>Has a bank character
>Doesn't outfit him in a tuxedo
What the hell is wrong with you?
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Gave this video a dislike before I've even watched it, after reading this comment. Always wear a tuxedo!
How do u get a tux
That costs money. :P
You mean the level 30 requirement tuxedo?
Personal suggestion, pick a mage over a hunter/warrior. One, fresh starting out, they're prolly the fastest to hit 5. Two, if you're talking about levelling to get a movement ability, I believe blink > Cheetah for such a short distance. But, if you're going to go that route, level to 20 for portals. If you're wheeling and dealing on your bank alt, having the option to meet your client at any city is a big boon. Thirdly, I'd even recommend eventually getting to lvl 35 on your bank alt. You don't need to level your enchanting to disenchant, but having the option to enchant on your bank alt in any city could make for some deals. However, 35 is pretty time consuming, so I can't recommend it for everyone (Though if you do this, go Enchanting/Alchemy and use Arcanite CD religiously).
I raid Naxx with my Bank Alts
In my underwear
Get a Mage to 35 for Alchemy+Transmute master for the Arcanite Bar transmute if you go above level 5. Why Mage? Blink shaves off a quarter of the distance from the AH to the mailbox. You could go Rogue/Druid instead of course, for Sprint/Dash.
It's quite a lot to do for a bank alt, but on every private server so far, you get at least 10g pure profit per transmute early on, which drops to around 5g after a good while. That's a lot of money for zero effort. You could always level the Mage to 60 later on if you want to farm Dire Maul trash for gold as well. Alchemy is one of those professions that is ALWAYS relevant. Nobody stops needing pots/flasks/elixirs.
alchemy & tailor another alt for enchanting
mooncloth
the minor speed enchant actually gets you 1 free day of 20 or 1 1/2 if run the bank all day for month
You forgot enchantrix; It comes with a database of possible disenchant outcomes of items, and it also updates that data as you disenchant items, and updates the values based on recent material costs scanned at the AH, sometimes vendoring an item for its value is more profitable than disenchanting it. It can also scan the AH for items posted that has a higher DE value than BO or bid price. Also auctioneer is better than aux because it keeps old data instead of just showing a most recent snapshot. Happy banking everyone.
Advanced tradeskill window and lilsparky's workshop are also very good addons if you intend to level a profession on your bank.
Best part about having a bank alt? You can list all your stuff on the AH without getting whispers from other players. Few things are more annoying that being 3/4 of the way through a BRD run and have to explain to somebody why, NO, you cannot come to Org RIGHT THIS SECOND and sell them that BoE you have listed on the AH.
As a quick money maker (early on) I usually (while watching videos on TH-cam or something) buy the mats off the AH to make Hillmans Shoulders and either DE or vendor them. Very easy money for someone just starting out.
Making hillmans cloak for alliance is really good too as you can sell them for the yeti quest in hillsbrad.
on a brand new server during i think bc time i made and ran a character to stv arena and got the chest. for a small period of time i was the richest person on the server. >
For those enchanters out there, I would highly suggest having two different prices for giving enchants. One price, the cost of your mats, based on current AH prices, with a small tip included in the price and a much higher price for people who want to bring their own. Since everybody and their mom will have a lv5 alt with enchanting better make sure people use your mats first.
im pretty sure you got scammed at 8:58 .... 20g is way to much
He was the only enchanter to respond after 15 minutes of /world requesting, I had to coax him out of his Instance group :P
Good day for him, bad day for his instance group LUL
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Mages are the best bank alts. they can port to any city for trades.
You don't need to get a Hunter to lvl20 for aspect of the cheetah, honestly I prefer getting a Rogue to lvl10 for Sprint :D
Blink @ 17 is the best for in-town.
@@FastBastar its level 20 for blink :(
@@isaacschu ohh, yep, my b
Hey its Desla enchanting your boots!
WTS [Dragon Finger of Healing] +33 healing. BiS until naxx, doesn't drop that high anymore!
rofl you buy recipies to flip to make 50s and u tip 20g for en enchant xD
I'll give you the best tip for the ultimate bank alt. Do a Tauren, Thunderbluff, it's the city with the closest AH to the bank, second best is SIlvermoon.
Ah yes, I really enjoyed going to the Silvermoon AH in Classic, shame I got banned for it.
Your horde bank alt should be in thunder bluff. The city layout is much cleaner and bank, vendor and AH is closer.
100% Agree - TB is the best city for a bank alt. Shortest distance between bank, mailbox & AH. And you can stay mounted between the AH / mailbox.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Always kept my banks in TB. Just straight lines back and forth.
Only downside is Rogues arent usually around in TB to open lockboxes
In terms of vanilla Wow, it's hard to remember what I learned in terms of having a bank alt. I do know that I didn't have enchanting on it but simply used it as a mule. Bag addons also annoy the heck out of me. As a very organised person, I had my own system of keeping things organised in my bags - in fact, I still do with every character I roll.
The only thing I can say is diversify. Don't stick to one way of trying to make gold. Use your professions, sure. But there are creative ways to save up gold - in Classic, don't expect to be able to charge exorbitant amounts for reagents or crafted items, either. Learn the market; and keep in mind when certain things sell the best, and when gathering agents can be snapped up cheaper.
Geckomayhem haha i started playing when I was 8 in 2005 because my dad also played. He would get so pissed at me when I opened my bags and everything was scattered. You sound just like him
@@kraqkilla3311 I started playing when I was 12 in 2004 (Beta) and I was just like them too, I organized everything in my bags, like mats go in this bag, all gear goes into that one, In the main bag hearthstone was first, skinning knife second, healing pots and then mana pots and then other kinds of pots and other consumables. I refused to get any bag addons for many expansions but I did at last, now I just do the same thing but with "one big bag".
My experience with people/players is that those who organize are usually have a lot higher (real life) intelligence then the ones who don't organize.
So much good info. I created main n 2 alts. One alt farms and the other stands by the mailbox in SW. Every gold goes to the banker. Both main and alt send 1/2 money made every day, to the banker alt. I never made 5 gold this quickly.
Would add depending on how much you use your alt, getting a hunter aspect cheater, shaman wolf, druid travel helps speed up time around the city. Sometimes you might go AH/Mail/Bank other times you might head of to another area and having the extra speed helps. Its also extremely fun to play bank alt dress up, its an added level of fun for you to play with. Other things include having a pet following you, like the chicken. Engineering to get goggles to look snazzy etc.
I prefer TB to Org. nicer layout, anvil/smelter is very accessible. fishing pond. reagent vendor. Very centralized area for most needs. Possibly better FP for most Kalimdor locations (maybe someone can do the math on that) Not just for bank alts but every toon.
TB is good for sure!
Also Postal is not needed in Classic since multi-item mail is within Classic.
No it is not. You are incorrect. In Classic you can mail one item at a time.
@@jessikat6692 Are you sure you're not mixing up Vanilla and Classic? because in Classic you can.
my bank alt in vanilla was my lvl 19 wsg twink rogue
Does homosexuality play a role in WoW Vanilla???
@@Chironex_Fleckeri So your saying everyone doing low lvl pvp is gay? seems legit actually
I recommend getting to 35 on some alts for Arcanite/Enchanted Thorium CD's while your main remains herb/mining.
Is there a cool down or something?
@@arkadiusw.897 I belive its 24 hours
I can see it now I'm spending all day on the 26th installing add-ons. I can't wait to use questie again its been so long
do it now !
@@insideatent good point my dude i will. My dumb ass thought you needed a sub to download it first.
Multiple bank alts based on category of items. IE, one bank for ores and bars, one for herbs, one for consumes. Choose the categories based on your play style.
If you're planning on getting a Hunter to level 20 for Aspect of the Cheetah. You might as well level it to 35 so that you can level your Enchanting all the way to Artisan and actually use that character as a proper Enchanter, sure you won't have the best recipes as some of them are BoP and come from high level dungeons and raids, but you'll still make a fair bit of gold enchanting simple stuff that ever raider will need like +4 to all stats on chest, and the minor speed increase to boots.
20 to 35 is like 4x the time investment than 1 to 20. Actually getting a profession to 300 is quite the investment itself too. And in case of enchanting not profitable at all. Huge money sink. Nobody pays for those low level enchants.
on PvE servers on Horde, one Alliance at Booty Bay as well as one in each faction. During BC originally I found Copper on alliance selling for more than double on horde. Transact via booty bay. Put copper on for 95% of horde selling price. Buy it with your own horde alt. If someone else poaches it - great. You sold it for almost horde selling price. If they don't sell it on horde. Horde alt keeps the cash for the next transfer.
If you've got $50 early game get 5 accounts and start your own guild and close 3 of them after a month. 2 accounts for multibox levelling (not botting, no macros - you have to control both characters)
You might want to also have a bank alt sit in Booty Bay, so you can get ally recipes that sell for a lot more! Since they are hard to get as a horde, or have an Ally as a bank alt. I made tons of money in vanilla swapping recipes back and forth and getting stuff on my horde toons that only alliance can usually get. In vanilla the AH was not "shared", it was split. and there were 3 separate auction houses. Horde, Ally and Neutral. You want an Alt for all three and you want to scan it fast and get those recipes / items / etc for either side.
And should you get a recipe that sells for a lot, you might want to consider being able to USE it and selling what you MAKE. There are recipes for cooks, and first aide, and other professions that would sell for thousands, not just hundreds.
And on the enchanting side, you want to sell the enchants, not the mats. Use the mats to level up.
what sells for 1000s?
tips 20g for minor speed to boots for a bank alt
doesn't make a tauren bank alt for vastly shorter run distances...
thunder bluff best city
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Wasn't the AH only in orgrimar in vanilla?
@@doopness785 No
happyhappy1 early in vanilla yes, but it got changed pretty early on.
I hope you get more popular with Classic wow coming out, would be great if more people got to see your content.
i for one am scouring the internet for information since i came into wow in BC and my vanilla knowledge/experience is next to none. i can use all the info i can get. so he got one new sub today.
Bank alt twinking LOL. Never thought of that. I just got my bank a tuxedo to look cool
You were in frostwolf? we are the guild masters. I am othisius. What server was this on?
It can also be nice to make your bank alt a lvl 10 rogue so that it gets sprint.
yea that'd be pretty sweet, a nice mid way
leveling to level 10 far exceed the time you save between mailboxes.
Jason Piana True, but if you're getting to lvl 5 for enchanting anyway, might as well get the next five
With resting bonus and dragonslayer buff shouldn't take long at all, but it's still a good point - it would take a long time using your alt to justify getting it to level 10.
@@Oakenlix lvl 35 and you can get 300 prof
Thanks buddy!! Awesome video. Using this in 2021.
Blizzard changed this in vanilla so you can't disenchant whatever you want. You needed to skill up in order to disenchant items. I would assume in Classic WoW, Blizzard will make you require to skill up in order to level up enchanting.
No they won't. They said now over and over that such things won't have changes. Private Servers run on 1.12.1, exactly on what classic will be based on.
@@Lyachos Then that's a change. Blizzard changed it in vanilla so it required skill. Did they specific say enchanting will not require skills?
To be honest, that's both dump and idiotic decision by Blizzard
Niceblood it was changed patch 2.0.1, so basically with TBC release
@@cflowers2094 Naw I remember that shit being change way before Naxx was out..... definitely wasn't with TBC release or that close to it. Honestly blizz should implement it from start this time imo.
Weapon Valhalla 2.0.1 was the prepatch to TBC when it changed. TBC wasn’t released yet. In 1.12.1 you could still do it.
eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/enchanting-in-classic/28636/38
Great video loads of very useful information..one of the best I've seen lately..
lmao that disenchant window bug used to piss me off. I would be in a dungeon and would have to /reload.
For bank alts, it's very useful to have an alt account entirely. That way if you need something from your bank alt you can log in and trade it directly. An additional use of an alternate account is to run it as a "Sniper", where you install addons to scan the auction house and check items against their vendor value and if it costs less than a vendor price to auto-buy it. You essentially run that on an alt account in the background while you're actually playing your main account. People do this on retail all the time. The downside is that you have to wait for mail to come in (2 hours I believe).
The auto-compare trick is pretty damn smart for private servers, but I'm not sure if I'd pay for two accounts on retail. I guess if I'm afk for a while I could log onto the bank alt and auto-buy AH stuff
any more on this? can you use aux to effectively do this? in pserver seems like a no-brainer decision to make a second account for this purpose. thanks for the comment
You don't need Auctioneer and informant to get the sell value of items, Aux has an expansion to it called Aux-Mechant-Price that does the same, and it's way better than running two auction house addons in my opinion.
Thanks for letting me know, will take a look at it
Holy shit I've been looking for a TSM like addon for Vanilla, AUX is gonna do just fine, thank you a lot. Also great tips overall.
Is there an addon that allows you to see the market price for items so you know what to put on the AH and not put on the AH?
9:30 that guy in chat is not selling that on a vanilla for that price
Just FYI, TSM has been confirmed for Vanilla and I believe the beta is already out.
@johnnyUtah71 do you know if the enchant lvl 5 still can disenchant high lvl gear?
@@jacobandersen8972 I wish I knew;) I've heard that from a lot of tubers.
What Addon for the Nameplates (Life/Mana bar) do you use?
I think it's called Luna Unit Frames.
useful video Will, keep it up! :)
Nice video Will, it's nice to have you back^^
Great to be back thank you, hyped for blizzard servers
How do you know when to disenchant and when to just sell the green?
if you think you're going to regret it after, you're making the wrong choice
I did not know if you have Enchanting then you can disenchant every level of gear even if your disenchanting skill is not good enough! Awesome info, thx!
Mid vanilla they changed that though. I remember they did it because people were getting hacked and the hackers would go on their accounts and DE all their gear. So idk how they gonna approach it now with new release will it be like that at start or not?
Bank alt, consumable alt, materials alt, future investment alt. Use all that. But you feel at what time it's worth the run and the bags
Good point, future investment alt sounds like a fun idea though!
theres more than 1 addon with the name Aux and there is the one u have said and there is also a simpler verison same with the postal there is a addon called Mail which is almost the same and for Informan there is SellValue
What sever is it you're on here? o:
I can't find any blizzlike vanilla server anywhere. The only populated one has instant lv 60, and the 2nd best looking one has 15x xp, so nobody does leveling dungeons /:
Devious Verendus lightshope.org
lightshope
KronosIII
www.kronos-wow.com/server-statistics-kronos-3/
Yea I think lightshope seems the best.
But why disenchant? does dust sell better than armor and weapons? Or to become an enchanter and get money from selling enchants?
dust usually sells for more at the AH than the item at the vendor. some plate shoulders with agi and spirit don't sell at all so you don't wanna put them in the AH and loose your deposit.
Because some items are utter trash and won't sell on the AH at all, because of how bad they are. They vendor for very little; but you can still disenchant them for the same mats as any other item around that level and those mats are far more profitable when sold in bulk at the AH.
Spirit is, agi does not much for warriors, the dmg mitigation from dodge and armor is not worth it. I'd rather disenchant those items and buy better stuff.
@Andrei Georgescu Actually far from it. You don't wanna level as fury anyway because your lack of hit just makes it frustrating.
In the later game you wanna get hit until soft cap (at 10%) and then 15 weapon skill (to reduce dmg penalty from glancing blows. Even after this, agi does very little to increase your crit. If I remember correctly only one item from fury BiS list does have agi on it (those pants from Naxx trash) because crit is usually easier to come by and you are generally punished for going after agi instead of str by attack power loss which furys do scale way better with.
Another nice plus for having Enchanting is if I remember correct that enchanting materials do not have a fee when you put them in the AH!
any reason you chose warrior for your bank alt? should any thought be put into class when making a bank alt? ill probably just do the level 5 D/E strat.
lvl 35 rogue with goblin engineering for sappers and enchanting, sprint to and from ah
8:11 30fps in wow? what sort of potato is that
I made a killing in TBC selling rune thread lmfao. I couldn't believe it.
20g for enchanting hurt me like hell
Does AUX provide the same sale rate, AH value, # of active auctions as per item, etc, as TSM?
Great video! So looking forward to Classic ;-) Keep it up! Subbed, by the way.
Should i lvl up my bank alt before my main? Or should i just park my BankAlt on the main city and just think about lvling him down the road?
TheBrunozxc don’t level him, just keep him at 5
I was thinking about increasing my bank alt rep with the faction it is based in so they can get the best price for items
What class would everyone recommend for doing a perfect bank alt? I assume some classes are easier to lvl to 5 than others.
Probably a hunter?
Warlock
Hunter is ridiculously quick to 5
I don’t get bagnon . It’s like buying a back pack or purse or whatever with only one big pocket. I like to sort my inventory by bags.
Thoughts on maxing a mage to use as a bank alt and a gold farmer on the same toon? Or is it better for your gold farmer to not have its bank full of stuff
I like going enchanting/tailor on my mages so it seems like a good fit
I don't think that would be a problem :) only thing is you'd need to do is keep track of your rotation between farm and AH
Always found TB the better place to have your bank alt, or to level jobs
Becouse it is.
what about /reload macro? to reset mailbox after 1 full emty ?. or was it /reload ui back then ?
personally i think maybe a 1g or 2g tip would of been more reasonable since u provided the mats but to each their own.
Is disenchanting green items always more profitable than vendoring them? How much does like Spring Dust AH for?
Depends on the stats and type of green.
If a green item is profitable to use for a character leveling, the item could be more profitable to sell at the Auction House.
On the other hand, a weapon goes for more at the Vendor, so vendoring a green weapon could be more profitable.
Regarding disenchanting, remember that people will always try to level up their professions, and a lot of people find it too tedious to grind instances for the greens to drop.
So either they buy the greens from the auction house/vendors, or they buy the materials gained from disenchanting.
Most common place to buy Enchantment materials is the Auction House.
The pricing differs from server to server. Mostly it depends on how much of the items there is available as well as how much demand there is for it.
Great video this will help alot.
glad to hear it :)
I'm guessing they changed the disenchanting thing in TBC? Cuz for me to disenchant even the items I have requires a specific level of enchanting
It was actually changed mid to late Vanilla. IRRC. Also idk if they gonna keep it that way at start of new launch either.
I thought you had to have a certain level in enchanting to DE higher level gear..... even in vanilla??
They added that in Burning Crusade, retail kiddy.
@@ChiefDoggingfood It wasnt TBC it was in vanilla. Stop dogging the new comers :P
Should go several steps further. All your bank alts should have real names, to actually turn them into alts. They all should have professions, and level them high enough to unlock the CD transmute recipes: Mooncloth, arcanite and deeprock salt - Tailor, alchemist and leatherworker. Those transmutes will get you a lot of cash, since people are paying for the cooldown basically.
A mage should be one of the first alts, with Tailoring and enchanting, you can can use portals to go anywhere in Azeroth for services, or teleport people for a fee. Tailoring to make bags for you and all your alts for cheap, enchanting do disenchant greens and slowly get some recipes.
Absolutely awesome, thanks a lot !
There is a classic TSM and i’m making about 5g per day :)
Awesome! What are you farming and selling for 5g per day? curious
@@Kodeations Main has skinning and mining, alt has D/E, just sending all mats and boe from alt to main and it sells like crazy, (Not selling all mining stuff cuz i need it for engi later on).
You can get a mage lvl 40 for portals, great bank alt. Make him tailoring/ench, make bags and DE shit. Then if you really hate yourself, go ahead and get him 60 and get water, he's literally a little vendor toon. Ofc at that point he's no longer a bank alt, but a mage main. =p
Is this private server? Cause classic dont need Postal anymore. Just sayin. Nice video
The Overall best Bank alt would probably be Level 35 and having Tailor and enchanting maxed. Reason beein mooncloth and endlevel enchanting. More 35 alts with other maxed professions make it even more wealthy. Everyone tailor for mooncloth cd and then another proffession for Money making. Lots of Investments but great Outcome in the end
Mooncloth bag?
You want to drag a bank alt to Uldaman?
Roll a rogue bank.
Level it to 20 to unlock sprint + lockpicking 225
Learn enchanting for disenchantment.
That's it.
Hunter lvl 22 with Beastmaster can get 36% movement speed + movementspeed entchants = Max speed ;)
thank you for posting this
The tip about the patterns is true even way back in vanilla. On alliance side, there is a specific vendor very far away from Ashenvale far to the west of the zone, and she sells a leatherworking pattern for Herbalist Gloves. vanilla-twinhead.twinstar.cz/?item=7361
The respawn is pretty slow too, so I would leave a character there, load up my bags with patterns for a week or two, then sell them slowly on the AH, one at a time. I was the only person who did it, and there were plenty of people who would buy them just because it's something they didn't have yet. 18s purchase, consistently sold for 5-8g. And even better, it was alliance side only, so I would sell it for even more on the neutral AH to horde.
(funny too since the gloves are complete trash, give a +5 to herbalism.
Is it always profitable to disenchant green or garbage blue items instead of vendoring them?
Not always, the dust yield and item vendor value must be factored in, for example, a green dagger will sell for a lot less than a 2H Axe to the vendor but both will yield the same amount of dust. Same for armor, plate yields the same dust as cloth but goes for more than the vendor.
Skyseer no. Vender plate and mail rings necks trinket. De leather , cloth, capes
I think TSM had something that would tell you both the AH price and the vendor price when you mouse hover over it. Could have been another addon.
So a L35 Hunter/enchanting or L35 Rogue/enchanter with either Herbalist or Inscription?
I was figuring the levels would be coming incidentally after I got them near the mailbox
Great tips. Brings back memories, I used to know this stuff :)
Can you make a video or comment what al addons you have? and where to get them please!! :o
A lot of my addons have already been covered in previous videos :)
Make sure you read the desription. There you can find all the addons featured in this video
To get informant do I need to download auctioneer?
How about non mage grinding spots? Rare valuable drops like the eye of shadow or other things?
Dont get me wrong the brd mage farming was super neat but not everyone will have a mage and stuff...
Thanks, keep up the good work!
Hi Erin, thanks for the feedback. This is a good topic of discussion and one that's hard to explore. I have had feedback like this in the past regarding the mage class limitation. The problem is I have tried other farms, even "discovered" some new ones myself but every time I fail to at least hit 50g/hour. I feel like If I can't at least do that for the viewer then is it really worth their time? There is the DME farm, yes. Problem with that is you are yet again relegated to the mage/lock/priest and maybe shaman. There is also the ZG farm but again, that's mage only. I even decided to step it up a gear at one point to address this and went as far to go and farm the elites around Kazzak with a couple of friends, since they are raid elites they had a higher chance to drop valuable gear like blues/epics. It was a disaster. The mobs could be killed but they dropped hardly anything. Maybe 20s a time and 7 runecloth. Any ideas?
World of Will i was thinking along the lines of demon farming in winterspring, hunter maybe? Speaking of hunter, i know on my rogue back on nost i bought the preraid BIS tarnished elven ring from a hunter who cheesed dire maul tribute. Stuff like that just seems like fun content to me.
Like i understand wanting to have a high gold per hour value and i think stuff like the brd farm is great for that but im sure theres gotta be people interested in seeing what other classes can do with their skill set, even if the gold/hour is lower, you know what i mean?
Its just a thought really, just seems like entertaining content if you're up for it.
Thanks for this, will investigate
But quest items and many other items are soulbound and BOP, can you actually disenchant those with an alt character?
No, just vendor those and send what you can is what I would think.
Yeah, only for BoE's
Can I make an alter lvl 5with blacksmithing or i need lvl up him to improve blacksmithing?
lv30
My preferred hearth location for bankers is a sanctuary city so neither the alt or the auctioneer can be interfered with. Better still is a place like the Wrath Dalaran Underbelly where guild bank, personal bank, and mailbox are within click range. Best of all is a city with maximum portals. Since I'm an all profs fool and an altoholic, I have a lot of guild banks for legacy mats. One of the bankers is my designated auctioneer and central clearing house. My leveling toons mail items to my auctioneer who sorts out the mats for my storage bank alts and my auction bank. All of my bankers train enchanting and engineering so they can use any available AH.
This past year or so, I decided to keep my character slots maxed out so I can gain from certain events. The best example is the WOW anniversary. Each toon that logs in for that event receives 500 timewalk badges and can acquire more with the trivia question daily. Those temp toons can then buy heirloom upgrade tokens and reputation tokens for the benefit of my leveling toons. That is a minimum of 25,000 badges for precious little effort. On retail, I play a server that hosts 3 realms which gives me the option of creating all 50 toons on the same server.
I mean to play classic and will likely put a bank alt in each of the racial capitals. I expect classic will have one AH for horde and one for ally. Will there be a neutral AH?
20g for enchant haha was even less in wotlk. vanilla price is 1-5 g depends on you'r lvl. I'm an experienced vanilla player and this has to be a bad private server like Kronos
...and you will know us by the Trail of Dead he’s being dramatic, it’s like someone who compares androids to iPhones.
Considering his server doesn't have enchanting level requirements, it's probably not very blizz like.
lol sadly with me i Lvling all 6 my character that was my biggest mistake last session in wow cause i only kept 2 character to max lvl
How does bank alt having enchanting work since you can't send soulbound gear to him/her?
mista rsv you vendor soul bound stuff. Boe gets sent to alt
How much money do you spend in shipping fees?