WoW Classic Race Picking Guide - Alliance

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  • Some advice on picking the "best" race for each class in World of Warcraft: Classic.
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  • @madseasonshow
    @madseasonshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    This will be the comment I edit if there are any errors/corrections. Horde version coming soon.
    Edit: As Jarkynson pointed out, the arcane resistance does have some use for pvp as Sheep is an arcane spell!
    Also, for tanking there's a discussion between Human/NE for endgame. Take a look at Mangs' comment below for more info!

    • @wingdings5812
      @wingdings5812 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      here before it's edited

    • @delicioso538
      @delicioso538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey, I like your videos. I just wanted to point out that the gnomish +10 arcane resist may be useful in pvp to resist sheep. And I uploaded a video about a shortcut from Menethil Harbor to Ironforge, it's on my channel, if you're interested. :) Cheers!

    • @sonofriggnarok9320
      @sonofriggnarok9320 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scepter in Vanilla??? I thought Scepter came at the start of BC?

    • @stefanmilenovic1967
      @stefanmilenovic1967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great content, how long till horde version. Cheers mate

    • @nowan8576
      @nowan8576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Before i keep watching this I have to admit one small enormous thing.
      (Sry for my England):
      I thought your hardest work was finding footage and the rest of things were what you lived, so YT was joyfull for you. Every video of you I see I realize more and more about the work behind it.
      You know, I played during WOLTK and begining of Cataclysm, and I was good, but my game knowledge and point of perspective ingame were terrible,all I had was lore from my early childhood on W2 and 3.
      I realize now the work you do because the more I watch the more I understand, and I understand more because I'm learning from your videos and I'm aplicating this knowledge to understand future videos and keep "snowballing".
      Sure you love what you do, but the heart you put on it, the thinking of "I'm gona make this guys understand so they will be able to do it so they can enjoy like I did and will" is so pure that makes me happy for founding your chanel.
      Thanks pal. Can't wait to play classic and let pop out the young nerd that wanted live amazing adventures in an amazing world... of Warcraft.

  • @WhoWasThisGuy
    @WhoWasThisGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3449

    You didn't meantion the most impactful racial in all of vanilla.
    Night Elves have about a 1/3 chance of doing a flip each time they jump.

    • @mr.mikaeel6264
      @mr.mikaeel6264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      And for class specific on night elves.
      Rogues when stealthed and video speed is increased look as if they limp with one leg.
      This ofcourse gives an increase in the video makers likeability.

    • @VinderHD
      @VinderHD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If undead stealth animation is changed from how it was I will freak out.

    • @frazerclyde7321
      @frazerclyde7321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      This comment brought back memories, i tottaly remember jumping all over the place on my night elf hunter. I can't wait for wow classic so i can come back to the game i loved.

    • @Wolta
      @Wolta 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's like a mean mention

    • @Cozmoz79
      @Cozmoz79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@VinderHD As far as I know, they are going with the old gfx on your toons. Meaning the same oldschool animations. Just the overall game/world you can select the higher gfx or classc ones.

  • @keo337
    @keo337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +635

    Rogue 11:16
    Warrior 15:43
    Paladin 18:36
    Mage 20:54
    Hunter 21:48
    Warlock 24:25
    Priest: 25:06
    Druid xD 29:00

  • @IamNemoN01
    @IamNemoN01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    I remember how annoying it was being dismounted going through water when playing my Gnome. But I also remember how annoying it was not being able to see anything in tall grass due to being so short . . . and then I discovered that I could zoom out and didn’t have to play in 1st person view. :P

    • @madseasonshow
      @madseasonshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Lol that's awesome

    • @chinaman1
      @chinaman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I loled.

    • @hencewurth
      @hencewurth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lmao wth

    • @choonbox
      @choonbox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everyone gets dismounted in water. Mounts can't swim that came with cata

    • @Immagonko
      @Immagonko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@choonbox we know
      It just happened more often with gnomes

  • @visoth7791
    @visoth7791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Macro for Night Elves:
    /cast Shadowmeld
    /use
    Every time you mount up, you will shadowmeld first. Casting Mount while shadowmelded is great. Allows for easy escapes after resurrecting. Enemy will still have to wait 3 seconds to mount up, by that time you will be long gone.

    • @Dithrick
      @Dithrick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Clever? Yes. Useful? Most of the time.

  • @anwaralexander3035
    @anwaralexander3035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +694

    Playing on my blood elf Death Knight is gonna be so awesome in classic.

    • @VinderHD
      @VinderHD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Reeeeeeeeee

    • @BaconMaken
      @BaconMaken 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      @@francocorelli9079 You're the stupid one for thinking he was serious.

    • @anwaralexander3035
      @anwaralexander3035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@francocorelli9079 *blinks*

    • @choonbox
      @choonbox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      funnily enough there are both blood elves and death knights in classic. Just none are playable.
      *but* DK was long considered over Warlock as the latter was deemed too powerful to be playable.

    • @richardburns4194
      @richardburns4194 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck!

  • @psilimit
    @psilimit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I'm rolling a Dwarf Paladin. They are swole with those massive muscles and that will make my heals STRONG!

    • @rudy1999
      @rudy1999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah i can't decide between dwarf paladin or priest

    • @Elijah-qp5nh
      @Elijah-qp5nh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rudy1999 what did you decide?

  • @kalzor56
    @kalzor56 5 ปีที่แล้ว +834

    gnomes are the best because they can hide inside a fireplace

    • @madseasonshow
      @madseasonshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      Plus the bodies are easier to hide

    • @Kligan
      @Kligan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      They also can squeeze under the root behind the tree on the edge of Warsong Gulch (on the Alliance side, if I recall correctly).
      If a gnome flag carrier hides there, only druids in cat form can get them out. Otherwise the gnome would just wiggle around to avoid line of sight of casters who try to get them and sit there forever.

    • @madseasonshow
      @madseasonshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@Kligan That's hilarious...never knew about that one!

    • @murutu1307
      @murutu1307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or the wagon in AB mines

    • @grayanotoxin6131
      @grayanotoxin6131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@murutu1307 god I was so mad when that wagon disappeared. I always hid in there on my rogue so no one could sneak up behind me in the "get each other out of stealth" fights

  • @jordogey5751
    @jordogey5751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    I love all these wow classic guides. Keep it up Madseason you are doing great!

    • @madseasonshow
      @madseasonshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I hope it helps! If it's like the old days, it'll be a permanent decision this time around

  • @yeahbaby55
    @yeahbaby55 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Of all the race guides ive seen on youtube regarding vanilla, this is hands down the best ive seen. I love the in depth and overlook between all the race and class combos. Keep it up!

  • @stranger6822
    @stranger6822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    One thing you didn't mention for night elf hunters is feign death into shadowmeld. FD has a 30s cooldown, which you can burn off while in shadowmeld. Like monks in EverQuest, night elf hunters can use this to "sneak" through dungeons and do things that most other classes can't.

    • @mattdayne2585
      @mattdayne2585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I can't believe I never thought to do that back in Classic and BC. I just loved being able to guard flags in WSG and surprise the enemy with an aimed shot and surprise cat attack.

    • @shadowwolf9909
      @shadowwolf9909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow never thought about that, and I played an Iksar monk as my second class in EQ.
      Probably in part my main was a Warlock, then my first alt was a rogue. Seeing as I needed to understand the class better, as a human warlock, and WoTF being insane early in Vanilla.
      What dungeons did you mainly use this tactic for?

    • @stranger6822
      @stranger6822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowwolf9909 I don't personally play a hunter, but I've seen this most often for DM North

  • @SteefPip
    @SteefPip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I played a NE priest, much to my ever present shame and regret, as they are clearly the weakest PvE wise, and that's the way I went. Fun note though, my guilds first Rag kill, we got an "all out dps" call at the end in a desperation move, and so I got the kill with Starshards. Back then the animation scaled to the mobs size. Was a very very big Starshards.

    • @user-ml3sz3mm5y
      @user-ml3sz3mm5y 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I played a nelf priest too purely because of looks. Yeah yeah fear ward is powerful but it's not enough for me to stare at ugly dwarf animations for hundreds of hours on end.

    • @SolusEmsu
      @SolusEmsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Funnily enough, Night Elf is probably the best Shadow Priest DPS. Starshards is a very mana-efficient damage spell, and since it is a 6s channel it lets you regen some mana between casts as the 5sr begins at the start of the channel. Even just the base damage for Starshards is an almost 3:1 damage to mana ratio, and the long cast channel means that it benefits heavily from +SP. It is also not a Holy school spell so it should be useable in Shadowform.
      Shadow Weaving also lasts 15s, so you can just replace Mind Flay with Starshards once you have Weaving stacked up.
      Short of this, though, Disc-spec DPS Priest is also viable. Bring the utility and Power Infusion and you can do just fine!
      Honestly, people put far too much emphasis on trying to meet DPS checks which are actually 2-3 times what they actually are in the game. I honestly hope to see some Starshards Arcane spec Priests.

    • @mattdayne2585
      @mattdayne2585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a human shadow priest which was still fun since they just rekted everyone in PvP but as I got to understand the game more, I regretted not picking a dwarf priest for fear ward. I think I ended up leveling a dwarf priest in BC but that account got hacked.
      Honestly, I wouldn't mind a NE priest since I never got to play around with star shards and at this point, I miss unique racial/class stuff that I'm considering rolling a NE or dwarf priest for Shadow priest fun. I'm just glad they'll be back in the game.

    • @rexblogger8452
      @rexblogger8452 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome! Amazing memories to have

  • @AmazonianBarbarian
    @AmazonianBarbarian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +551

    0/10 Still don't know what race to pick for Druid.

    • @R3ggz
      @R3ggz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ChrisStohl as mad said don’t take these to seriously, play what you enjoy.

    • @Az0rau
      @Az0rau 5 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      @@R3ggz He's being Ironic, cause there's only one race to choose from :P

    • @vadeka
      @vadeka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Az0rau he could go tauren? ;)

    • @mattp6089
      @mattp6089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I suggest Dwarf! If it doesn't seem to want to let you just keep clicking until it does.

    • @shrowhurter3508
      @shrowhurter3508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mattp6089 u stupid? Gnome is te onli truit class

  • @Reemelix
    @Reemelix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love your longform infomational videos. Keep watching them over and over!

  • @lisakennedy6211
    @lisakennedy6211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like many WOW players I am obsessed with classic wow. I will watch as many videos as you care to put out on that subject! Keep em coming and thanks!

  • @robbiedolan340
    @robbiedolan340 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love how thorough you are with everything, its pretty staggering honestly.

  • @PrecursorLegend
    @PrecursorLegend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Really happy to find some well-planned, thorough, no-nonsense videos in this era of live streaming headaches. Thank you.

  • @OkuuRaven
    @OkuuRaven 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I disagree on hunter. I think Night Elf is better. Strong as stoneform may be, I think all the Night Elf racials are quite useful to hunter. Outside of stoneform only the frost resist is much use for hunter. 9 more agility is actually significant in classic too, though not a huge difference I admit. Also 1 out of 3 jumps a Night Elf does a flip instead and that's what truly matters.
    I think you value stoneform a tad too much, but all in all a great video. Got my noggin' jogging and helped me rethink some stuff that I thought I knew.

    • @surreallittlecharacter9835
      @surreallittlecharacter9835 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nuclear Raven Personally I’m of the opposite opinion, but I think you raised some really interesting points!
      I’ve seen some hunters pull off some pro moves with shadowmeld, but stoneform to me is one of the most powerful racials in the game. It’s useful in PVE, and a gamechanger in PVP. It just has so much utility in my eyes - classes that use DoTs are some of the most populated in the vanilla PvP scene, and you’ll rarely find a lack of opportunities to put it to use (plus, I guess a spiteful side of me loves the benefit of leaving rogues dead in the water). The 10% armor is just an additional benefit that often gets overlooked on an already great ability. I’m also not sure how sold I am on the 1% dodge for NE hunter - useful for melee engagements, but not against casters or other hunters.
      I do think mad was right to say you could go either way though. Both are great options and I think it comes down to your play style. Personally I prefer to play a slightly sturdier hunter, so dwarf is better for me, but someone who likes pulling off ambushes or fancy tricks should definitely go night elf. Anyone looking to try out / return to hunter in classic should feel safe knowing that both are great options.
      Though I’ll admit that I have no suitable defense against the night elf jump flips. Why can’t we dwarves look that cool while kiting 😔 Actually I’m picturing a beefy dwarf flipping through the air and I’m not sure whether that would be great or horrible, so I’m fine with just leaving the acrobatics to the night elves lol

  • @cooleobrad
    @cooleobrad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video as usual! Love getting hyped for Classic by watching your channel, keep it up!

  • @irondave123
    @irondave123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thoroughness in this video is so satisfying.

  • @nicwin4006
    @nicwin4006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wasn't too interested in playing classic, but the more I binge your videos, the more I keep thinking I might have to jump in. Thanks for always being straightforward with the realities of classic, I know it won't be easy to grind out but part of me thinks the community aspects of it will outweigh the grind. I look forward to finding out.

    • @jacobring7274
      @jacobring7274 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you happen to be Alliance on the same !!!PVP!!! server as me, it will. I plan to rock that shit like never before. I'm talking volunteer PvP mercenary guild, AH corporation, and rare materials on lock down (E.I. devilsaur, magic dust, firewater etc.) all while supporting the Ally community and throwing in some RP events. Oh, and we won't be doing our jobs right unless 3/4 EPL towers are ours, 24/7.

  • @spirit5877
    @spirit5877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    /cries in night elf priest/

  • @Arktillance
    @Arktillance 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's my birthday today and I can't think of a better way to spend it than to listen to my favorite monotone youtuber :)

  • @MegaManHanded
    @MegaManHanded 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am literally adicted to your videos thank you for making them they are incredibly helpful and i always review them on my stream. Truly a amzing creator on youtube. Thank you.

  • @Mangs1337
    @Mangs1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Great guide, but I'm going to have to disagree a little on 17:20.
    I am pretty sure humans are not considered the best PvE tanking class in Vanilla. At least on a very high level. When you get to a high level as a tank, you can generate threat just fine without relying on the +5 weapon skill racial.
    The +1% dodge from night elves is far more valuable when you get into high-end content such as Naxxramas where bosses will hit you like trucks.
    Rage also isn’t a huge issue in high raid-tiers because while you will be taking less damage as your gear increases, the bosses will also hit you progressively harder as you raid more challenging content. Rage might be an issue for off-tanks when mobs aren’t hitting particularly hard, but against any raid-boss like Patchwerk you will usually have more rage than you need.
    When you reach this level, most of your reputations are also usually grinded out, so the +10% bonus isn’t helping you anymore.
    Again, at a lower-level I definitely think humans take the cake, but on the high-end scale of things, I do believe most people agreed night elves were the superior tanks.

    • @yeetdeets
      @yeetdeets 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent point. Because of how vanilla attack-tables worked adding 1% chance to dodge an attack can be more than a 1% damage reduction. Although since crushing blows and crits are pushed off the table last, it requires quite a bit of gear for that to be the case. As such the racial would actually become better the later in the progression you were. For leveling the talent is probably next to useless.
      Not sure what chances warriors had to be missed, dodge, parry or block an attack at lvl 60 with pre-bis or raid gear. Would be interesting to know.

    • @paulbuerger1792
      @paulbuerger1792 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The importance of threat in classic cannot be understated, people are really good at minmaxing pve DPS nowadays and your DPS classes will produce huge amounts of threat. You need as much offense as possible to increase your threat gen. It's about how much threat your autos can produce in between your sunders/heroic strikes. All the way up through Naxx tanks are dropping defense to gain hit chance and crit chance in order to ensure their threat gen is high enough that the bosses stay on them, thus the weapon skill is still massive. Dodge is sort of an offstat for survival anyways, if you dodge you don't gain rage which hurts threat, but ofc there are some bosses that hit insanely hard and you want dodge for those few. Even if for some reason you're taking too much damage as a tank, 1% dodge from night elf racial wouldn't be the deciding factor in whether or not your healers keep you alive.

    • @yeetdeets
      @yeetdeets 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@paulbuerger1792 I was about to tell you why you were wrong, but upon looking at sources it seems I was only getting half the picture. Apparently 5 weapon skill is 0,5% hit chance against a 60 mob, and only increases white hit dmg by 2% by reducing glancing blow penalty. But against a boss (63) those 5 skills increase hit by a whopping 3% because of a cut-off point, and increase white hit dmg by 9% (assuming no crits).
      Now i get why they say Edgemaster's Handguards are BIS throughout all of classic. Having 12 weapon skill, while it only increases hit by 3,7%, increases average white hit dmg by 14%. And even if you don't have a racial weapon skill increase that's still equivalent to 3,2% hit and 13% white hit dmg. No realistic amount of strength, crit% or AP can compare to that.
      This obviously also means weapon skill racials are UNQUESTIONABLY the best ones for melee classes in PVE. Enough that you should go out of your way to use weapons that utilize it. Few weapons up your damage by more than 9% in later stages, and why are you stealing such a good weapon from other guild members who make better use of it? Not to mention the sudden need for 3% more hit.
      Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.

    • @bubbles-cq6zm
      @bubbles-cq6zm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nerds lol

    • @kallmannkallmann
      @kallmannkallmann 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tho for ally, we will prob have threat reducing blessing on evry proper raid so it´s not as important. Also if i don´t recall wrong warrs had to stack up spell hit to get ther tounts to land.

  • @irishpotato8046
    @irishpotato8046 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Just 2 things to add about Dwarf stone form
    1. many mobs/bosses applied powerful stacking bleeds, so dwarfs could fudge fights by getting up to like 7 stacks of a bleed than dropping them with stone form thus reducing the amount of tank swapping involved in certain fights.
    2. Many bosses had reduced healing efficiency de-buffs, many of which counted as bleed effects and could again be dropped by a dwarf doing stone form.
    Basically from what i remember about the server i played on every top alliance raiding guild had all human and dwarf warrior tanks and would not even except night elf warrior tanks because 1% dodge was laughable compared to human weapon skill racial and dwarfs stone form. But hopefully people will be nicer about excepting non max players to events.
    Also about the 5 second rule - arcane mages restro druids and disc priest got talents for continued regeneration even while casting. Priest and druids got 15% where arcane mage talent got 12%.
    So a mage using arcane armor + the arcane talent ended up with 42% regeneration even while casting thus making the humans 5% more spirit more valuable than gnome mages 5% more intelect; because the human mage would actually have more up time and do more damage in the long run.
    And finally just wanted to bring up Human warlock with detect greater invisibility the fel hunters paranoia buff and perception could see a rouge without any stealth improvements at 40 yards away while cloaked....

    • @senismarsenis9678
      @senismarsenis9678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😮

    • @mattp6089
      @mattp6089 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stoneform was super pro on Moroes in Kara for the garrote. Not vanilla but it was still hax for that fight. You know, early on, when Kara was hard.

    • @youtubesucksbutts
      @youtubesucksbutts 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huhuran. The fight you’re wanting to mention is Princess Huhuran. Stoneform + Divine Shield = what frenzy phase? As opposed to the Horde which had to actually do the fight.

    • @irishpotato8046
      @irishpotato8046 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya @@youtubesucksbutts it made Huhuran a lot easier; but also the 3 bug bosses in aq 20 all had de-buffs that would be removed by stone form.
      Also in mq the core hounds would apply rend to people in melee and stone form dropped their rend.
      But basically every dungeon after about lvl 30 you'd start getting mobs or bosses with bleeds poisons or diseases that could be dropped by Stone form. Even some of the ooze mobs in mauradon hit for "bleed damage"(not physical) or "poison damage"(not nature) so stone form gave you immunity to their damage for 10 seconds.
      There was a lot of cool things you could do with Stone form in vanilla and Burning crusade but as mentioned in the video Stone form lost its bite in wotlk so 9 year olds... I mean death knights could kill them.

    • @youtubesucksbutts
      @youtubesucksbutts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keith The search for rouges always sounded like McCarthyism to me.

  • @YouGonnaSee7
    @YouGonnaSee7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Horde Version please! This one is very well done and put together. Just stumbled upon your channel a couple days ago and have been watching all of the videos about classic. Love them keep up the good work!

  • @DjZephy
    @DjZephy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't stop watching your videos!!! I love just hearing you talk about how cool wow is! I'm not even playing wow b/c I'm waiting for classic but I'll listen to your videos while playing other games. :)

  • @lPsychoMax
    @lPsychoMax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    One oversight is, gnomes are really good for rouges or warriors against players who click on their enemies (yes they exist) since their shorter model is hard to click on, especially if your charging and running about.
    Throw in some shrinking effects to make yourself tiny and unless they auto-target; they won't tough you compared to everyone else!

    • @madseasonshow
      @madseasonshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Lol, that's a good point actually! Did not think of that...

    • @lPsychoMax
      @lPsychoMax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Gary Oak it's just something I found in battlegrounds. Ppl seem to chase me down more as a short race; especially gnome or goblin.
      Usually ignoring others, but they seem to have trouble starting attack if you run around them.
      Imagine a gnome demon hunter! XD

    • @BrossGameage
      @BrossGameage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im a nightelf mohawk

    • @jacobring7274
      @jacobring7274 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The best clicker will always be less than the worst tabber. Their skill is negligible in PvP if you are a tabber/hotkeyer/good player.

    • @michaelcjohnsonmj
      @michaelcjohnsonmj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobring7274 im a clicker... my pinky cant tab. but i think i changed my S to tap i havent played WoW since Wrath i tried BC didnt like it so i quit

  • @ayalabaleeiro8398
    @ayalabaleeiro8398 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Tl;DR: Just pick whatever you want.
    btw Druid is the hardest one to pick a race on ally side.

    • @TheRealNenharm
      @TheRealNenharm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Equally hard on horde imo

    • @Issengrim
      @Issengrim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah. You pick male:
      Get perpetually pissed face. Each cast feels like your character is gonna lay an egg.
      You pick female:
      Oh boy, all the stereotypes

    • @johnnyroe8053
      @johnnyroe8053 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Issengrim what stereotypes

    • @johnnyroe8053
      @johnnyroe8053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Saxtoni lots of naked female characters dancing?

    • @san709
      @san709 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah, it's shaman

  • @carlosdelsol76
    @carlosdelsol76 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see u preparing the ground for wow classic. I'm sure you will be the the benchmark channel for wow classic info

  • @reidstrr
    @reidstrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That new ending graphic looks good man. I’d like to see a little more of the MadSeason signature armor colours though. Keep it up!

  • @No-Me3
    @No-Me3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Shadowmeld + the old Aimed Shot + slow crossbow = 1 shots in PvP in Vanilla.

    • @PowderedToastMaaaan
      @PowderedToastMaaaan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      can confirm ^

    • @Norish1337
      @Norish1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This does not work in classic beta... 😪

    • @rudy1999
      @rudy1999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anything can be one shot in Vanilla, warlock with 10k shadowbolt too, shaman with 2h windfury proc and other

  • @AJ-iu6nw
    @AJ-iu6nw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I can't wait for Classic. But I also just click your videos to hear that ASMR voice!

    • @hairysticks74
      @hairysticks74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was just thinking this... LoL!

    • @tmkongen
      @tmkongen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They will fuck it up. Wait and see. I'm waiting for it just as much as you do but the Blizzard we learned to love is not around anymore. Neither are the people behind it.

  • @psy0m934
    @psy0m934 ปีที่แล้ว

    i hope your channel never gets deleted
    its like a time machine to me

  • @mattb312
    @mattb312 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always look forward to your videos man. Thanks and keep up the good work 👍

  • @Blackdare
    @Blackdare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    me, already picked a race, class, profession and halfway done leveling:
    *time to watch madseasons picking guides*

  • @Giralian
    @Giralian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    1:17 CONFIRMED!!!

    • @VinderHD
      @VinderHD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even I a devout horde player would switch to become a member of the monotone Marauders

  • @Trying2Hard22
    @Trying2Hard22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I remember correctly, target weapon skill cap is +15 for raiding. So Human's passive is still massive. Great video btw - thanks for compiling and creating it!

  • @martinhartono673
    @martinhartono673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for making these videos. It makes me excited to play classic WOW

  • @kronniichiwa9909
    @kronniichiwa9909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My main Will be a Night elf hunter. Simply because of how amazing Shadowmeld is. A permanent stealth as long as you don't move.
    You can stalk In the shadows waiting for your pray, like a true hunter.
    Perfect if you have a feline type pet that can also stealth indefinitely, I'm talking about Prowl.

  • @arohk4415
    @arohk4415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should mention that you can also use the hearthstone or mount up while in shadowmeld which can be useful is some situations.

  • @Zelein
    @Zelein 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just thought I would throw this out here: I'm a WoW veteran from the last days of vanilla and played the crap out of TBC and WotLK. Watching the many videos you made in preparation really helped me return to the game, even though I'm more than a year late to the party lol. So anyway, what I'm trying to say, is thank you. Thank you for these awesome videos and thorough "casual" guides. They're awesome.

  • @seniorjrr
    @seniorjrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Madseason please never stop making wow videos!

  • @dylans824
    @dylans824 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have been watching a few of your videos in prep for classic. I started in late BC just before Wrath. Just wanted to say that I love your content. Also, is that POE music I hear in the backround??? Kudos for an awesome choice

  • @ChrisElison
    @ChrisElison 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great info, making me look forward to Classic! For the Alliance!

  • @napakamu9670
    @napakamu9670 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are amazingly informative and clear. Good stuff!

  • @echo-hotel
    @echo-hotel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely need the Horde guide! This was grate. I still need a bit of a role play aspect in my choice but any influence to choose something different is nice!

  • @Stalkingwolf
    @Stalkingwolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ah that gun sound. 3 hunter with Nerubian Conqueror in Naxx. so much fun.

  • @akira3871
    @akira3871 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    So as an alliance player that doesn't like dwarves I'm screwed lol

    • @pogchamp2897
      @pogchamp2897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Don't let him fool u, human is the way to go since they can see cunt rogue gankers once they hear that cancerous stealth sound, especialy in STVietnam.

    • @marinhrabric6162
      @marinhrabric6162 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you not like dwarves? They're cool

    • @akira3871
      @akira3871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pogchamp2897 Idk, why do some people prefer blondes over brunettes? Roses over daisies? Tacos over burritos? I just don't like their attitudes and the female dwarfs are horrifically ugly imo.

  • @JooseBox225
    @JooseBox225 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video it was very imformative and helpful for a returning wow player (who started in WoD) I am looking forward to having a taste of what it was like back in the original days.

  • @tehpwnerer7
    @tehpwnerer7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Super helpful can't wait for classic to come out, been playing on private server till then!

  • @richardvaluch3152
    @richardvaluch3152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your voice helps me sleep better and feel relaxed, it also makes me feel like im not lonely :) thx for the vid

  • @danielskrivan6921
    @danielskrivan6921 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:55 I don't know if there was anything like this in Vanilla, but I remember in WotLK, diplomacy made a HUGE difference with Sons of Hodir, because you start at hated and get two quests which bump you up to Neutral - Humans got like +4k rep from their racial for those 2 quests.

  • @exoteeelis
    @exoteeelis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You just sent me down memory lane with weapon skill and all its glorious attack table theorycraft voodoo. Sweet, sweet mugger’s belt. Sweet, sweet aged core leather gloves. :)

  • @HugeCoffeeAddict
    @HugeCoffeeAddict 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will take my first step into classic as a restoration druid, and I can't wait.

  • @darkholyPL
    @darkholyPL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man I don't know, that druid race choice is going to be a tough one.

  • @ramik81
    @ramik81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You pick nelf last for everything, huh?
    Shadowmeld not useful, is it?
    You've never been MCed by a stealthy priest in BRM into lava, I see.
    :P

    • @Banana_Zach
      @Banana_Zach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Noone expects the Night Elf Inquisition

    • @Healthy_Kawk
      @Healthy_Kawk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      god tier

  • @mikeygduv
    @mikeygduv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES, can't wait to listen to this tonight when I go to bed. Your videos are the perfect thing to get me chilled out and thinking and imagining WoW. (I do listen to all the video though :) )

  • @karmazeal
    @karmazeal 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video as always, waiting on the horde side.

  • @sumbody694
    @sumbody694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For the rogue it truly does not matter what race you pick alliance or horde. All the most important parts of being a rogue is understanding how to prepare against certain targets. Rogues have abilities or poisons for almost every situation, you just have to prepare properly.

  • @Alyxcz
    @Alyxcz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The gnome intellect passive is about 0.4% crit and about 1 extra fireball worth of mana with solid gear.

    • @romand.8240
      @romand.8240 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      human players liked your comment. Go gnome or go home.
      ,

  • @JustRockMySoul
    @JustRockMySoul 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I expect this video to be hanging out in the character select screen with MadSeason for half an hour, while he explains me every intricate detail about each and every race in a calm and collected voice.
    20 bucks I won't be disappoint

  • @MaceHelm
    @MaceHelm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clicked just to listen to that intro again. Godspeed sir!

  • @Quoth_
    @Quoth_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "I'd get whispers from _diseased_ people" hahahahahaha that took me off guard hahahahaha

  • @zetamaniac
    @zetamaniac 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Excellent guide.
    But dont take these too seriously, Racials wont carry you if you lack skill. After all its your input that matters.
    Swifty,one of the best PVP warriors in the game back in the vanilla days, was a Night elf.

    • @zarolikse2372
      @zarolikse2372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Zoot shadowmeld is godly on a PvP server in vanilla (even in this form). It adds alot of fun and unique game play (especially for priests and hunters).

    • @vadeka
      @vadeka 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      to be fair... in vanilla, almost nobody knew what they were doing. Addons? Thottbot? Unknown to a lot of players, you had lvl 60 players who didn't even know where you could get a mount.
      Just play it for fun and don't worry too much about racials or if you're in the top % whatever. That's what made vanilla great.

    • @mohammedblooshi3673
      @mohammedblooshi3673 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vadeka I know a Rogue in vanilla who didn't know that he can learn and upgrade skills until he was 60...then he became pro and botting hacker...permabanned came back in different accounts becoming a great dpser in both pvpand pvp...bored became healer and blew the charts....his beginnings were sooo humble

    • @lightlore7677
      @lightlore7677 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the future, press spacebar after commas.

    • @akhsdenlew1861
      @akhsdenlew1861 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure that the 10% reputation boost will carry you.
      If u get exalted with 1 reputation, u get 1 more for free... do u know how insane that is?
      PvP reputations, pve reputations whatever.. this racial is just INSANE.
      I only find 2 racials 100% unfair.
      The 10% reputation boost and the 25% stun resist.
      The others are just VERY good.
      Those 2 are just cheating into the game.

  • @ZidaneSteiner
    @ZidaneSteiner 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even play WoW, I just find this calming to listen to while I'm working.

  • @rl1585
    @rl1585 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    please make more classic guides really solidified my potential alliance choices

  • @Gr33nsurfer
    @Gr33nsurfer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG, old gun sound was so much better

  • @spitnolan
    @spitnolan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You were a little harsh on gnome warriors. they get extra dodge.

  • @Ghytiees
    @Ghytiees 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for the horde guide!

  • @boywithani
    @boywithani 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like rewatching these videos to help me relax before bed. They're like unintentional ASMR. Sidenote: I farm jungle remedies hard on my NE priest to make up for no stoneform and, more importantly, regret nothing for picking a race based on their jump animation. Also, hiding in Shadowmeld and then Psychic Scream/Silence into Mind Control is really fun when defending LM in Arathi

  • @killakilla346
    @killakilla346 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    you were correct about a lot but there is a few things that were a bit off to me, for 1 you really understated how powerful escape artist really is, it is so powerful in pvp that the top guilds in private servers started making entire guilds full of 38 gnomes and dwarves and then 2 druids. also another thing to note is that the gnomish death ray actually scales off your engineering skill in pvp and since gnomes have the extra 15 skill it means they just simply do more damage with it. kind of a minor thing tho

    • @jacobring7274
      @jacobring7274 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      God damn, Blizzard put so much quality work and thoughtfulness into this game. The grind is just a part of corporate demands, but like J.R.R. Tolkien probably used to say "No great adventure happens without a very, very large amount of walking." (running in WoWs case)

  • @LyfeBroo
    @LyfeBroo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is that the path of exile soundtrack?

    • @Shervin86
      @Shervin86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LyfeBroo 1 month later.... yes it is

  • @MrFredrick1991
    @MrFredrick1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm you latest fan, finding your videos really helpfull with classic coming up !! thanks mate !!

  • @sweazer
    @sweazer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    something so relaxing about that intro

  • @Yoman1289
    @Yoman1289 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    29:30 almost spit out my coffee when I saw you modern scrubs can pay $60 for a max level boost. In my day, that would get you a fat ban

    • @siradmin6791
      @siradmin6791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sad thing is. People now pay gold to lvl 60's to get a level boost to 60

  • @brokenkimchi
    @brokenkimchi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've convinced me to play Rogue in Classic and I can't wait!

    • @madseasonshow
      @madseasonshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're fun! All around a great class - no regrets having one as my main back in the day

  • @Blimes787
    @Blimes787 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    love ur vids, they bring such a nostalgic feeling

  • @Gerelos
    @Gerelos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I played human warrior at 60 and 70. Orc warrior at 80. I'm going Tauren warrior this time around! Gimme dat extra health.
    Alts are gonna be Orc hunter and Troll mage for sure.

  • @bigsanchez22
    @bigsanchez22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    im wondering if they will let us make both factions on the same server. all my friends wanna roll ally. but i wanna make either and undead mage or priest. if i have to roll ally, probably gonna make a dwarf hunter cuz stone form is the best racial on ally.

    • @Kligan
      @Kligan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can only make both factions on PvE servers.

    • @bigsanchez22
      @bigsanchez22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kligan pvp all the way

    • @jacobring7274
      @jacobring7274 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PvP is the TRUE test of skill! Group, solo or otherwise!!!

    • @j4kfr05t5
      @j4kfr05t5 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      +@@jacobring7274 No it's not. It's a test of wheather or not you can keybind your shit and use engeniering crafts on a hotbar.

    • @jacobring7274
      @jacobring7274 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j4kfr05t5 and when you face another player that does that as well? That's when i get sweaty. Now toss in 39 players on both sides, coordinate and teamspeak. That is what I call Warcraft. Pots and enchants are nice too ;) ...and maybe a warrior with a Dark Iron Pulverizer in front. classicdb.ch/?item=11608

  • @catgang
    @catgang 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel, even though I haven't played WoW since Cataclysm, but I still like Azeroth's Lore, to remember the olden days of yore and to collect the special edition artbooks (i was hoping to get the BFA one, but no luck with that). Seriously, great job, you make me want to relive WoW classic. My favourite expansion was also Wotlk, those were great times.

  • @sanctus1337
    @sanctus1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always know that when there is a new madseason video up, I'm going to sleep tight. That monotone voice does wonders on a stressed out mind. I watch it the second time for the content

  • @greenchilistudioz4537
    @greenchilistudioz4537 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this guide is really good, can't wait to make worgen druid when Classic comes out!!! :D

    • @SuperViolane
      @SuperViolane 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You cant unfortunately.

  • @leviathanops4524
    @leviathanops4524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Idk, I think people should go in as blind as possible. Recreate the magic of something new as much as you can

  • @XxGamingMayhemxX
    @XxGamingMayhemxX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    By far my favorite wow youtuber

  • @john22026
    @john22026 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRO! You gotta do the Horde version. I know you're alliance main but my friends all play horde and as a returning player ( I havent played since vanilla) I'm really waiting for your horde race/class picks. Can't wait to see it!

  • @Vielle-Lothaire
    @Vielle-Lothaire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Blue boi for life

    • @iBlueFoxxy
      @iBlueFoxxy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@plaukai4lifet620 tik nereikia xd

    • @plaukai4lifet620
      @plaukai4lifet620 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iBlueFoxxy gerai jau gerai,bet tik del taves,su artejanciom sventem,oplia 😂

    • @bjornerlendur4606
      @bjornerlendur4606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have a girlfriend and she is so blue

    • @eier3252
      @eier3252 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bjornerlendur4606 when i played draenei this song an this line made me feel so weird

    • @kronniichiwa9909
      @kronniichiwa9909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@plaukai4lifet620 horde nazi

  • @happyfrietiez
    @happyfrietiez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My monk is going to pwn some faces! Can't wait!!!

  • @sarielheavensborne9921
    @sarielheavensborne9921 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the druid guide, I was really struggling with making my choice there for Vanilla. :(

  • @Kichmica
    @Kichmica 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My boi madseason is the only one I watch all 30 second ads for.

  • @Believer1980
    @Believer1980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My first two, not sure which order, is going to be a Gnome thief and a Night Elf warrior. Look out Silvermoon server Hildor the Warrior is back!

    • @madseasonshow
      @madseasonshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most likely human warrior for my first one. I also want to make a paladin/rogue though...tough choice

    • @Epsylon21
      @Epsylon21 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      gnome rogue?

    • @Believer1980
      @Believer1980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Epsylon21 LOL for a "short" period of time I was part of a RP Guild called "The Ankle Bitters" an all Gnome Guild, and yep we sucked as we were missing key classes. xD

    • @ChihuahuaPorter
      @ChihuahuaPorter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Epsylon21 a night elf mowhawk.

    • @jeffcastro4768
      @jeffcastro4768 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      that night elf warrior for pve tanking was gonna be my choice after watching this humans seems the way to go... stuck on the fencse as well to make a pally

  • @darkadia6520
    @darkadia6520 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When I make a rogue it's obviously going to be night elf, my favorite race story is the undead though
    Truthfully I enjoyed the starting areas for the alliance more than the horde

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe berdanke my main was a female night elf rogue, now i want a troll mage

  • @danielskrivan6921
    @danielskrivan6921 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:00 the ability for Shadowmeld to interrupt spellcasts and let you close in for charge is pretty powerful.

  • @brendanwomer473
    @brendanwomer473 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video and I love how in depth you went but I would add time stamps so I can jump to specific races back and forth or at the end I can jump straight to your recommendation on the class I want to play

  • @DrPluton
    @DrPluton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I plan to play a gnome mage.

  • @MegaMalfurion
    @MegaMalfurion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Orc racials are my favorite. But I will not betray my fellow tree-huggers, I will always be a Night Elf!

    • @jacobring7274
      @jacobring7274 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Orc racials are pretty damn awesome. Orcs are never to be taken lightly. Invaders from a harder world they are!

    • @R3ggz
      @R3ggz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Henry M. Legolas00129 noob 😀

    • @1shogunate696
      @1shogunate696 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The tree had it coming

  • @BalkanBoyBiH
    @BalkanBoyBiH 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    good old days where you played AV none stop for that epic 2h mace jesus good time cannot wait to do it again ! XD

  • @100gramdab3
    @100gramdab3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos bro keep it up. Also I have but one question:
    I'm looking to play a caster class with high crits for pvp, would that be mage or warlocks back then?

  • @Roofhack
    @Roofhack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For Hunters, while I am sure Stoneform is great and all, the amount of utility of Shadowmeld is amazing for a hunter due to FD. More so in PVE, it is effectively a type of vanish. There have been countless times where this would happen and would think, "I could not do this if I was any other race." FD+SM, wait 30 seconds for FD cooldown, and can do it again.