Hi Frank, I enjoyed these topics very much. I completely agree that there is a huge tendency to over feed during the race season. I remember years ago when I followed a feeding plan that didn’t match the training plan. I was eager to win and found a cookie cutter feeding plan. Definitely a few races where I got lucky, but I saw the biggest difference when I understood the art of feeding. Hope all is well.
This is nice of you. Did not know what I would talk about but the seminar went well and I was pleased except that I called Lactic Acid Lactose. Lack of sleep for me. lol
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thanks frank! I think alot of fanciers can relate. Pigeons can be a busy hobby when you let it be. But your method can help with that.
Hi Kerby, I just starting talking and did not know where this would go. I was happy except I called lactic Acid- Lactose. I did not have much sleep and worked right until I got up to the podium. Glad you enjoyed and have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons It happens. I used to do seminars like this on mining and wouldn't sleep much before. Sometimes, I'd go back and review video of them and cringe at some of my screw ups. LOL
Hemp is a good fat seed with some nice essential oils. It is in my fat seed mix but not in high quantities. It is not some kind of super food just another good fat seed.
Hello. I have a few questions 1. Can we use corn for long races if use how and when 2. During moulting when our pigeon don't fly much . so can we use oily seed and protein and carbohydrates seeds.? 3. We don't have access to barley and paddy rice . What else can we use on non training day? 4. On training day what seed should we use for feeding . Oily or carbohydrates . Shall we feed them before training or on end of training day? Thanks
Corn is not your best choice. Use fat seeds for long races. During molting a good high quality feed with about 15% protein. I use Versele Laga Champion during the molt with plenty of minerals. You would have to measure feed and not feed too much if you cannot get barley or paddy rice. It will be more difficult to get bodyweight right without barley but it can be done with perfect amounts feeding once a day. I do not change feed after training unless they fly more than 75 minutes or even 90 minutes. You can add more fat seeds should they have a long training. Most of the time they are on the light mix.
My favorite fat seeds are Safflower, Sunflower (out of the husk), followed by a lesser amount of hemp and then lesser amount of flaxseed then lesser amount of rape seed.
Hi Frank. Thanks for another great video for beginners like myself. Can you provide a list of all the natural products that you use? Also, how often do you vaccinate your young and old birds for PMV, Pox, and Rota? Are there any other vaccines that you use? Thanks again
During the moult and after weaning for a couple months I feed a breeder mix with about 15 to 16% protein. This is important when they are growing and molting heavy. Plenty of minerals also is important.
Hi Frank, great video once again. You mentioned if you had more time that you would probably train the birds more, but don't you think even for someone that has more time with their birds, you current method is more beneficial to the birds with regards to lighter feed, more rest days. Also besides that barley keeps the birds light, is there a benefit on the nutritional side of things, also what the main signs of crop canker. Apologies for so many questions. I'm planning to use your racing method next year. From Cape Town
My system works super without much effort so maybe I would do the same even if I had more time. If it works why fix it. Canker will rise when birds are stressed and drop when the stress if removed during rest. I do not treat for canker and pigeons become more immune over time. I get a bird now and again with canker in the throat and you see yellow cheese like substance and I treat the bird with metrodonizol and leave the bird with the others to help the others build resistant to the group.
Very interresting and informative.! However i must mention that there are as many succesful racing programmes out there as what there are bad ones.! Barley can be used in many more ways than just as a basic feed.! Sunflower seed for instance can be used instead of barley with equal succes any time. The type of birds you select will prescribe what will be the best way to train, race and rest them. Your system makes perfect sense for your particular situation but if you plan to race your birds every week or every second week all through the race program you will have to increase the amount of food you feed drastictly.
Hey Bruce, My systems are for fanciers with limited time. My birds only go out of the loft two times per week between races. For the long distance they only go out two times in two weeks. Without feeding like I do I could not train like I do. Not sure about Sunflower. I feed mainly low fat and low protein and sunflower is a high fat seed. I could or would do things differently if I could work the pigeons more. I always say "you cannot feed like me and train like you" Many ways to success but if someone only exercises the pigeons two times per week and wants to be consistently competitive they must feed like I do. The results around the world have been incredible.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Although sunflower is regarded as one of the high fat seeds i can assure you that it does not add weight to pigeons what so ever even if they are on a 100% sunflower seed dieet. Sunflower seed has the remarkabke abillity to break down inner fat build up very very fast. So combined with barley it is a wonderfood to keep the birds light and boyant. Then supplieng a rich oily dieet for the last 3 or 4 meals before basketing produdes amazing results on race day. I understand why you stick to your method because it has been tried and tested and works for you and elsewhere.! Using the correct seeds can be described as tossing the birds at home in the loft.! I agree that maybe 90% of all so called roadwork is more for the benefit of the fanciers them selves than for the birds itself. Regars, nice chatting with you.
Hi Frank, a question, is it worth to import a pigeon as breeder that perform not well (4 times late bird in OLR) but his twin brother performs quite well (4 times in 10% of group in the same OLR race), the family performs quite well many where in our local
Many times it is worth a try to breed from a sibling of a top racer. The good news is the pigeon although not successful can home and finish a series. Most cannot do that. You can only breed and try. Many top breeding pigeons were pigeons that finished a tough one loft series but never scored. Best of luck, Frank
Fascinating talk my friend. You certainly know your stuff. I’m interested in getting into this sport now I have retired. I’ve been binge watching so much conflicting information. My brain can’t absorb most of it. I have a perfect outbuilding that is well insulated and dry. 15’ x 15’ with room to extend if required. What system would you recommend for a complete newbie starting out? The system I would presume would determine the layout/design inside? The building has a 3’ overhang on the front that would make a nice aviary? Thanks again. Gary. Edinburgh Scotland
If you are starting out as old birds make it simple and race celibate hens to the perch. Nothing is easier and nothing will fly as well with nearly no effort. You can keep the young birds in a section. You need a breeding section and a place to race the hens.
Many are winning on my system in Florida. Not sure if I will race in Florida. We may rent for a while and look at areas. I will find a place to keep my pigeons for breeding.
hi, been watching your videos for a month now. big fan of yours. you talked about spend more money in minerals than in grains. can you tell me the minerals youre using. i mean all of it. im from the philippines btw❤❤❤
and when you say 80% barley 20% grains. can you feed the birds like that even if they are not loft flying? because race season is a couple of months away. how should i change their diet.
Here are my favorite minerals below in the video. If you can get a good quality grit with calcium, the Natural Vita-Mineral and brown mineral blocks you will have enough. I use all these and offer some explanation in this video. th-cam.com/video/5vIXEclHiJA/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, Frank, for sharing this with us. I benefit from your experience. ❤ Here in Morocco, we are entering the racing season. There is not much time left. The first speed race will be on January 7th.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Okay, I will do that. I would like to send you some clips of my racing pigeons and the way I deal with them, both in treatment and feeding. I do not know where to send them to you. Thank you.
I will feed the high percentage of barley up till day of shipping if race looks fast. All the fat seeds they can eat on shipping day. If the race looks tough they get fat seeds the night before shipping and the day of shipping.
That is a bit of an issue because I am wearing the microphone. Next time I will repeat the question. I forgot about the video when I was doing the seminar. I just started talking and had no idea where we would go.
Hi friend. Going to write you some things a little more then just this about your generosity and speaking to the Pigeon sport live on your page but for some reason I can’t catch it all the time so that I can question u about things . but I will like to write you something you can talk to your viewers about, write in your page I will try to keep you going with some silly dumb stupid some crazy things and reel really and the way I grew up in the sport of homing pigeons and all kinds of fancy and to this day I’m on the bottom of. The sheet you cannot get anybody to teach you or show you the correct way to handle Bird on Long Island we have a couple good guys but they’re afraid you’ll beat them and take their money because they worked hard at it too hard for them to help you doing and winning because the loft won’tshow up my will competition is good here and rather just take all the money here
Keep the faith. I like to share even if my competitors use methods to beat me. If you master feeding, train the pigeons to break and have good pigeons you can be very successful without much work.
You speak a lot about being antibiotic free for years...but some of the meds you use have antibiotics in them. So....minimal antibiotic treatment rather than antibiotic free? Not picking at you, just trying to understand the mind of a top notch racing pigeon specialist ;)
Nothing I use has antibiotics in it. Please give an example?. I will individually treat a bird that is sick with antibiotics but never flock treat the pigeons. Nearly all my pigeons have never seen a drop of antibiotics in their entire lives.
@@frankbellinger905 Hi Frank, I use Tony's to treat a sick bird individually but never flock treat the birds. I will use antibiotics to save a valuable bird if needed. I do not have any patience if a pigeon gets sick a second time in its life.
Enjoy listening to your talks
I am having fun with this. Thank you!
Thank you Frank for helping to educate us ! Your time tested wisdom is appreciated.
You are very welcome. I am happy if you can get something out of this.
Hi Frank, I enjoyed these topics very much. I completely agree that there is a huge tendency to over feed during the race season. I remember years ago when I followed a feeding plan that didn’t match the training plan. I was eager to win and found a cookie cutter feeding plan. Definitely a few races where I got lucky, but I saw the biggest difference when I understood the art of feeding. Hope all is well.
Hi Ceyx, I appreciate this and happy you find time to watch my videos. Keep up your great success! Your Old Friend, Frank
Brilliant Seminar Master Teacher McLaughlin, Salute 🫡
Thank you so much. Makes me feel good for all your support!
Great talk Frank you make the game so easy when you splaying everything detailed by details god bless
I appreciate that!
Wow! Wow! Nice job
always love to listen you Frank.keep it up
Happy you enjoyed. I had fun and the people in the room were pleased.
Frank as always for me it’s Awesome technique and brilliant tips.
This is nice of you. Did not know what I would talk about but the seminar went well and I was pleased except that I called Lactic Acid Lactose. Lack of sleep for me. lol
Brilliant absolutely brilliant
You are too nice but I appreciate this.
Great talk. Frank! We need more pigeon veterans like you to share tips and advice like this. God bless
I do appreciate this. My methods can help you succeed when you do not have much time. Share with your friends.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thanks frank! I think alot of fanciers can relate. Pigeons can be a busy hobby when you let it be. But your method can help with that.
My systems will help you be a top fancier without much time.
Great advice
Happy you enjoyed.
another great speech frank
Thank you!
As always frank very informative and inspirational 👏👏👏
Thank you! My methods are not main stream but the fanciers that follow are having unbelievable success with much less effort.
Thank you sir, because of you i won my first race🎉👏
Well done! Congratulations. Many more wins to come.
Thanks for the great info Frank! Have a great Thanksgiving
Same to you! I am pleased you enjoyed
Good advice. How do you feed feeding birds?
Check out this video series on feeding. You must Master feeding. th-cam.com/play/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt.html
Great presentation, Frank. This helped reveal a little more insight into your system. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!
Hi Kerby, I just starting talking and did not know where this would go. I was happy except I called lactic Acid- Lactose. I did not have much sleep and worked right until I got up to the podium. Glad you enjoyed and have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons It happens. I used to do seminars like this on mining and wouldn't sleep much before. Sometimes, I'd go back and review video of them and cringe at some of my screw ups. LOL
That is funny and it is tough to watch yourself back.
Great information as always what is the benefit of Hemp seed I hear a lot of talk about it but no one says what the benefits are
Hemp is a good fat seed with some nice essential oils. It is in my fat seed mix but not in high quantities. It is not some kind of super food just another good fat seed.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons terrific thanks for the information
Hello. I have a few questions
1. Can we use corn for long races if use how and when
2. During moulting when our pigeon don't fly much . so can we use oily seed and protein and carbohydrates seeds.?
3. We don't have access to barley and paddy rice . What else can we use on non training day?
4. On training day what seed should we use for feeding . Oily or carbohydrates . Shall we feed them before training or on end of training day?
Thanks
Corn is not your best choice. Use fat seeds for long races.
During molting a good high quality feed with about 15% protein. I use Versele Laga Champion during the molt with plenty of minerals.
You would have to measure feed and not feed too much if you cannot get barley or paddy rice. It will be more difficult to get bodyweight right without barley but it can be done with perfect amounts feeding once a day.
I do not change feed after training unless they fly more than 75 minutes or even 90 minutes. You can add more fat seeds should they have a long training. Most of the time they are on the light mix.
frank as always great info. keep it up.
So happy you enjoyed and I am having fun. I was happy with the seminar except I called Lactic Acid Lactose. Lack of sleep will do that.
What is the pick pickbot that you measure feed with?
What are fast seeds?
I don't understand your terminology.
This play list will help. I show my measurements in one of the videos. th-cam.com/play/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt.html
Hi Frank what fat seeds u use for distance races our long distance races is normally tough
My favorite fat seeds are Safflower, Sunflower (out of the husk), followed by a lesser amount of hemp and then lesser amount of flaxseed then lesser amount of rape seed.
Do you feed same feed over winter months
In the winter my birds eat chicken pellets and whole corn. Here is what I do: th-cam.com/video/5UqvtfoQ0iM/w-d-xo.html
Hi Frank. Thanks for another great video for beginners like myself. Can you provide a list of all the natural products that you use? Also, how often do you vaccinate your young and old birds for PMV, Pox, and Rota? Are there any other vaccines that you use? Thanks again
I am sorry I missed this. Email me and I will send. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com
Another nice video. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi sir. Can i ask?
80 percent barley mixture effective when the place are hot weather like in the philippines?it is the barley heat the pigeons body?
Do not worry about the hot climate. Barley is a super feed in the heat. That is a myth about barley heating up the pigeon.
Hi Frank what do feed Ure youngsters after weaning and we going in the moulting soon here in in South Africa what is Ure feed mix for moulting season
During the moult and after weaning for a couple months I feed a breeder mix with about 15 to 16% protein. This is important when they are growing and molting heavy. Plenty of minerals also is important.
Hi Frank, great video once again. You mentioned if you had more time that you would probably train the birds more, but don't you think even for someone that has more time with their birds, you current method is more beneficial to the birds with regards to lighter feed, more rest days.
Also besides that barley keeps the birds light, is there a benefit on the nutritional side of things, also what the main signs of crop canker. Apologies for so many questions.
I'm planning to use your racing method next year. From Cape Town
My system works super without much effort so maybe I would do the same even if I had more time. If it works why fix it. Canker will rise when birds are stressed and drop when the stress if removed during rest. I do not treat for canker and pigeons become more immune over time. I get a bird now and again with canker in the throat and you see yellow cheese like substance and I treat the bird with metrodonizol and leave the bird with the others to help the others build resistant to the group.
Very interresting and informative.! However i must mention that there are as many succesful racing programmes out there as what there are bad ones.! Barley can be used in many more ways than just as a basic feed.! Sunflower seed for instance can be used instead of barley with equal succes any time. The type of birds you select will prescribe what will be the best way to train, race and rest them. Your system makes perfect sense for your particular situation but if you plan to race your birds every week or every second week all through the race program you will have to increase the amount of food you feed drastictly.
Hey Bruce, My systems are for fanciers with limited time. My birds only go out of the loft two times per week between races. For the long distance they only go out two times in two weeks. Without feeding like I do I could not train like I do. Not sure about Sunflower. I feed mainly low fat and low protein and sunflower is a high fat seed. I could or would do things differently if I could work the pigeons more. I always say "you cannot feed like me and train like you" Many ways to success but if someone only exercises the pigeons two times per week and wants to be consistently competitive they must feed like I do. The results around the world have been incredible.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons
Although sunflower is regarded as one of the high fat seeds i can assure you that it does not add weight to pigeons what so ever even if they are on a 100% sunflower seed dieet.
Sunflower seed has the remarkabke abillity to break down inner fat build up very very fast.
So combined with barley it is a wonderfood to keep the birds light and boyant.
Then supplieng a rich oily dieet for the last 3 or 4 meals before basketing produdes amazing results on race day.
I understand why you stick to your method because it has been tried and tested and works for you and elsewhere.!
Using the correct seeds can be described as tossing the birds at home in the loft.!
I agree that maybe 90% of all so called roadwork is more for the benefit of the fanciers them selves than for the birds itself.
Regars, nice chatting with you.
Excellent points!
Hi Frank, a question, is it worth to import a pigeon as breeder that perform not well (4 times late bird in OLR) but his twin brother performs quite well (4 times in 10% of group in the same OLR race), the family performs quite well many where in our local
Many times it is worth a try to breed from a sibling of a top racer. The good news is the pigeon although not successful can home and finish a series. Most cannot do that. You can only breed and try. Many top breeding pigeons were pigeons that finished a tough one loft series but never scored. Best of luck, Frank
Interested in knowing what the ingredients of the tonies tablets are thank you .
Its basically a catch all drug, enrofloxacin, ronidazole, diclazuril, and doxycycline
broad spectrum antibiotics, antiprotozoals and anticoccidials, 5 in 1 catch all tablet
Thank you
Hello Frank, this vaccine for pmv roto coming for inject in the leg, do you think it makes a difference if I just apply subcutaneous.
I do not think it makes a difference if you apply in the web of the leg or behind the neck. I give behind the neck and have never had a problem.
Fascinating talk my friend. You certainly know your stuff.
I’m interested in getting into this sport now I have retired. I’ve been binge watching so much conflicting information. My brain can’t absorb most of it. I have a perfect outbuilding that is well insulated and dry. 15’ x 15’ with room to extend if required.
What system would you recommend for a complete newbie starting out? The system I would presume would determine the layout/design inside? The building has a 3’ overhang on the front that would make a nice aviary? Thanks again.
Gary. Edinburgh Scotland
If you are starting out as old birds make it simple and race celibate hens to the perch. Nothing is easier and nothing will fly as well with nearly no effort. You can keep the young birds in a section. You need a breeding section and a place to race the hens.
Hi frank when will you move to Florida to test your system?
Many are winning on my system in Florida. Not sure if I will race in Florida. We may rent for a while and look at areas. I will find a place to keep my pigeons for breeding.
thank you sir ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
Glad you enjoyed.
Salut Franck merci pour tes vidéos 👍
So happy you enjoyed!
Whats the name of yellow drops sir? Ty
I use Herbots brand. jedds.com/products/yellow-drops-herbovet
What is deep litter?
Deep litter is having something on the floors. I use Wood Pellets that are used in wood burning stoves on my loft floor.
"I tried yours and it Sucks!" Sensational!🤣 anyways, thank you so much frank!
That was a great quote and so happy you enjoyed my video.
hi, been watching your videos for a month now. big fan of yours. you talked about spend more money in minerals than in grains. can you tell me the minerals youre using. i mean all of it. im from the philippines btw❤❤❤
and when you say 80% barley 20% grains. can you feed the birds like that even if they are not loft flying? because race season is a couple of months away. how should i change their diet.
Here are my favorite minerals below in the video. If you can get a good quality grit with calcium, the Natural Vita-Mineral and brown mineral blocks you will have enough. I use all these and offer some explanation in this video. th-cam.com/video/5vIXEclHiJA/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, Frank, for sharing this with us. I benefit from your experience. ❤ Here in Morocco, we are entering the racing season. There is not much time left. The first speed race will be on January 7th.
Hope you do super. Keep me posted
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Okay, I will do that. I would like to send you some clips of my racing pigeons and the way I deal with them, both in treatment and feeding. I do not know where to send them to you. Thank you.
I can take a look. Send to Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeonsp
Hey Frank, just a quick question. Are you still doing 80 percent barley on a 420 mile race?
I will feed the high percentage of barley up till day of shipping if race looks fast. All the fat seeds they can eat on shipping day. If the race looks tough they get fat seeds the night before shipping and the day of shipping.
Thank you. I am a firm believer of your style.
Hey Frank, what if the loading is Friday and the liberation is Sunday.What adjustments I need to do with regards to feeding?
I think I got it...thank you!
Please do videos on inbreeding and cross breeding. Also please guide us on how to develop Ur own breed. Thanks
I will do a video on my thoughts.
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Frank I’m struggling to hear the Questions your asked
That is a bit of an issue because I am wearing the microphone. Next time I will repeat the question. I forgot about the video when I was doing the seminar. I just started talking and had no idea where we would go.
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Hi friend. Going to write you some things a little more then just this about your generosity and speaking to the Pigeon sport live on your page but for some reason I can’t catch it all the time so that I can question u about things . but I will like to write you something you can talk to your viewers about, write in your page I will try to keep you going with some silly dumb stupid some crazy things and reel really and the way I grew up in the sport of homing pigeons and all kinds of fancy and to this day I’m on the bottom of. The sheet you cannot get anybody to teach you or show you the correct way to handle Bird on Long Island we have a couple good guys but they’re afraid you’ll beat them and take their money because they worked hard at it too hard for them to help you doing and winning because the loft won’tshow up my will competition is good here and rather just take all the money here
Keep the faith. I like to share even if my competitors use methods to beat me. If you master feeding, train the pigeons to break and have good pigeons you can be very successful without much work.
You speak a lot about being antibiotic free for years...but some of the meds you use have antibiotics in them. So....minimal antibiotic treatment rather than antibiotic free? Not picking at you, just trying to understand the mind of a top notch racing pigeon specialist ;)
Nothing I use has antibiotics in it. Please give an example?. I will individually treat a bird that is sick with antibiotics but never flock treat the pigeons. Nearly all my pigeons have never seen a drop of antibiotics in their entire lives.
Tony’s treasure tablets have antibiotics in them, according to their ingredients list.
@@frankbellinger905 Hi Frank, I use Tony's to treat a sick bird individually but never flock treat the birds. I will use antibiotics to save a valuable bird if needed. I do not have any patience if a pigeon gets sick a second time in its life.
What's s Tony?
Tony's Treasure Tablets are a pill that have multiple antibiotics in it. Great all purpose cure if a bird goes off on you. No need to flock treat.
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Load of bullshit
Happy you are a Big Fan!
Hello 👋 🫂 I'm glad that we could connect and continue to forge the future of pigeons on a global scale of course
Excellent