Educating Young birds- Secrets your Top Competitors do not want you to know.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ม.ค. 2023
- The video will teach how to educate your young birds without hurting them so they reach their full potential and have dominating racing results. The best racing pigeon athletes cannot win if they do not understand the game. This video will show you how to teach the pigeons the game of racing. This video will put your pigeons on the top of the race result all season long. For More Information and many articles on pigeon health and my theories as well as Educating Young birds see mclaughlinlofts.com/
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1:25 secret of your success in OLR right there in my opinion. Most guys that race club and combine and do well, send the birds to one loft races and are flat. The one loft managers train how you do, do the minimum required. Some birds need a lot of work to come into form. If you train hard, the birds that do well are those that need hard training, if you don’t train hard, the birds that do well are those that don’t need much training to come into form. That is the kind of bird you want to send to a one loft race. That is the most important thing in this video for me. Great info, Thanks Frank!
So happy you liked it. I like pigeons that condition easily and stay in condition easily. Best for local racing and One Loft Racing
Have you ever thought about doing a podcast? I'd love to hear more tips and stories from your history with racing pigeons in a long format. You could have fellow fanciers on and share tips and stories. I think it's a great idea!
Something I will certainly consider in the future. I will do live stream soon and take questions from the subscribers.
I like the idea as well
That would be a great idea 💡😎 would love to hear it and be able to take notes
Thank you Frank.
You just told me how I went about my first year of racing..last year.
Great advice Frank. Makes sense to me!.
Thanks Frank you are helping us newbies tremendously
So happy I can help. This game is not difficult!
Thanks Frank
Great, no-nonsense advice. Thanks Frank!
Thank you so much. Happy you enjoyed.
Another great video Frank!! Thank you! Some secrets exposed...
Always happy when you like it. Thank you!
Thank you Frank.
You are very welcome
Thank you so much for the info.
Happy you liked it.
Aloha Frank! Thanks for this great information. I'll be waiting for more tips on racing young birds. Have an awesome day 😎
I have many more videos in my head. lol
Thanks frank! Ive known about you since i started flying back in 2011 through my mentor al porter wisconsin. Its nice to finally hear from you and share your knowledge. Looking forward to more videos from you.
Thank you for this. Al is a super guy. Great mentor and ambassador for the sport.
Thank you for this information
My pleasure. Happy you liked it.
Thanks for the info....I will put it into action this coming race season.
So happy you liked it!
Thank you, I’m learned a lot from you.
Hi Lee, So happy you like my information. I keep it simple and my methods do not take a lot of time to stay at the top.
Great info as always Frank. Some more good, solid, common sense pigeon education.
Much appreciated
I watch a lot of videos but this one is unique and exactly what young flyers need thank you Mr mclaughlin !!!
So happy you like them. Most fanciers are looking for information to help them save years of trial and error.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons the breaking training is genius! Makes perfect sense.
Thanks...great video
So happy you enjoyed.
Thanks Frank , just re watching to remember
I should do the same. lol Sometime things slip my mind and then I read something I put on my Secrets page on the website and wonder why I stopped doing it.
Brilliant video pure Genius
You are too nice. Thank you so much.
Thanks a great video
Very welcome
Excellent. Thanks for sharing.
I have fun doing these. Happy you liked it.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons I really do. Love the content and the thought process.
Let me know when the book comes out. I'll get one for sure. ;-)
Thanks man sounds good
Happy you liked it.
Very good thanks from South africa
Thank you for the precious information👏. Racer from Morocco.
So happy you enjoyed the video. Hope you can use some of it.
Great information ℹ️
I must do a video on that. I do not worry about trapping very much until a few weeks before the race season. With all the hawks around my birds like to go in fairly quickly when they come home.
Thanks for this. As someone flying their first year, after 40 odd years with Rollers, I've found the different range of answers from racing folks to my questions to be rather mystifying, if not completely confusing. In this one 15 minute video, you've given me more info. than I've received from A LOT of phone calls and emails combined.
Hi Kerby, Thank you so much for the nice compliment., The sport is not difficult if you apply common sense and keep you birds healthy with correct body weight for the races.
I agree with everything Frank says here. I've began racing in the early 70s. One thing I've learned over the years is; a lot of nonsense can be picked up from pigeon guys. I don't know if they spread it intentionally to mess up others ability to win or if they really believe the crap they spread.
@Bill Astell I think there are certainly people who intentionally spread bad advice. My late aunt and grandmother bred exhibition dogs very successfully and many years ago when they were just starting out and had purchased their first real show puppy which became their foundation stud, they asked for advice from a very well known breeder. This well known breeder told them to brush this puppy's hair backward with a wire brush before showing him as a method of grooming. Fortunately, a professional handler overheard this "advice" and told them "Good God, don't listen to her! She's trying to sabotage you!" and she promptly took them aside and explained how she prepared dogs for the show ring. That puppy became the first of the 200+ champions that my aunt and grandmother showed to completion and he produced the first champion they bred, as well as became the grandsire of the #1 dog in the country some years later. I always remember this story when somebody tells me something that sounds like bad advice.
Thank you Sir for all the information,I’m fairly new into the pigeon game and if all goes well il b racing next year (2024). I’ve got 18 young birds flying very strong as a team and they are always flying with another fancier’s pack of about 80 pigeons and all my pigeons return at the same time, then I’ve got another 20 that I need to home so keep the content coming because ur info is gold. Grant all the way from Cape Town South Africa 🇿🇦
Hello Grant, You will do super. Keep it simple and keep it up. I will do a video on feeding soon that you will like. Cape Town is one of the best places on earth. I love it there.
Great information my friend. Very interesting and makes complete sense. Very selfless of you also. Good job 👍
So happy if I can help a little bit.
Thank you sir
For the excellent informations
Waiting for the training video, and the feeding video
I will be adding them soon. Thank you!
I have a pair with four squekers 2 sets of 2 and another egg. About to start training. Thank you so much for the information.
Good luck!
I agree with everything you've said 🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦
Thank you!
Nice video ❤
Many many thanks
Nice information 👍
Thank you!
Another excellent video Frank … always trying to learn from super flyers … Aloha, tony
Hi Tony, You are too nice. Glad you liked it and maybe can use something.
sound advise frank
Happy you liked it.
Hi Frank, very good advise, I don't have birds but after more than 30 years without them , I hope to have a nice loft built in the next couple years, I am retired now and I miss having them around , when I was young I raced for few years into Scotland, I enjoy your videos , the big problem here is hawks , every one has to breed lots youngsters, I will take note of your advise ,thanks , Frank take care
Welcome back to the sport. Once the pigeons are in our minds you can never get them out of your mind. Happy you enjoyed my video.
i'm a new subscriber here from the philippines. thanks for your videos.
Happy you enjoy.
Hi Frank . Thanks for all the videos you make .
How far into the actual race course do you train before race season starts ?
Thanks
I am happy you like my videos. For me, I get the young birds about 60 miles before the first race. Longer is probably better but 60 miles is about as far as I go.
Thanx frank for an educative post . It is to the point , without undue verbosity . Could you pls suggest how to train my birds to break off as a flock from other flocks flying in the same area . My birds join them & then most of them come back in small parties or individually . I shall be obliged
Hello Ashraf, It seems you are lucky and your birds are learning to break. When exercising the flock is not going to break away as an entire group. The birds as they have less energy will break a few a time with the strong birds flying longer. It is a good thing that they have this opportunity to pull away from the flock and learn to break. It will help on race day. Not much you can do right now with them coming in small groups other than throwing droppers and calling them to feed as a bigger flock passes over the loft. Many may pull away and land. Best of luck, Frank
Fantastic video Frank,
Thanks for this,
At what age do you start letting the birds out?
Thanks
Hi Nathan, It is best to let them out young and settle them young. Problem is the hawks. I let them get a bit stronger at two months old. They are in a settling cage for a month or so before they are free. They can escape the hawks and if chased off they can work there way back. I let out a small percentage of the babies each day over a week or so at first so a hawk attack does not chase off the entire group at once.
Hi Frank, great information!!
This will be my first year racing and I was wondering what your feeling are on single, double or triple tossing birds to help them break from the flock. Would this be a good option if you can't find another fancier. Thanks!
Hello John, I have been thinking about doing a video on this. I am not sure if it will help. When I was a kid my Dad would toss in small groups or single toss when he was at field trials. I flew excellent but I have flown just as excellent last 25 years only flock training with some truck tosses. Small groups cannot hurt but not sold on if it helps very much.
Iam not a pigeon fancier , maybe one day but those who are should pay attention to your advice. Subscribed just to learn.
You will love the sport and it is not difficult. It is best to learn as much as possible and understand the pigeons before you jump right in. Good pigeons, good loft, kept healthy and trained moderately with perfect body weight is all that is needed to win.
@McLaughlin Lofts thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to reply to my comment , watching and learning. Have a great weekend...
This is how I trained my birds when I did "white dove releases" It was rare for me to lose a bird back then. I chalked it up to the fact that they only flew, at most, 150 miles. Thank you for the informative videos.
So happy you like my videos.
Hey Frank 😊👊🏻
I learn from you!
Doing a lot of what has been said here. Will incorporate the rest. :)
Most do not understand how import rest is for pigeons. I win with pigeons that are five years old. I feel that using rest is very important.
Great information thank you 😊
My question is if you have babies from mid January when would be a good time to release them for the first time??
Depends what kind of weather you are dealing with. Hawks can be rough in January. You can certainly start them later if you need to.
You point out the depth or richness of the color in the birds' wing bars and tail (or lack thereof). Help me understand why that is important? Thanks.
Hi Bob, I am doing a Live Stream today at 3pm eastern and can take questions live. Color density shows health and vitality in the young pigeons and the breeding pigeons. Strong genetics and strong immune systems usually breed pigeons with great color density. Rich and dark is favored and maybe I do a video and show a better example and explain.
3 years ago i flew in every direction up to 20 miles then the last 2 weeks to week and a half i flew the race course direction. My personnel experience was not good i made them homing pigeons not racing pigeons. They circled to much out of the basket. The following years i trained directly in the middle of the race course, done very well ever since. If they have to figure out where there at because they missed the loft, you lost the race anyway. Just didnt work for me. Taught them to race each other in small groups 5 to 8 birds instead of large groups, made the biggest difference.
Hey Todd, I like to keep them guessing and have had super seasons mostly training the wrong direction. I feel it is possible your difficult season may have happened no matter what you did. Sometimes they just do not perform. Good job on your success and there are many ways to the top on this sport. Keep it up.
Hi Frank love your videos really top quality advice. I have a question my young birds 1st round were born between 5th and 9th of January. They are already going through the molt. Is this good? I know the next round will be on the dark but will the 1st round be now fully moulted and ready to race in July. Or do they need to go on the dark system too? Thank you.
If it was me I would train them out to maybe 25 miles over the next few weeks and then put on the dark system. Your pigeons will be molting the power flights in July without the dark and the dark might be best for you. I do not think they will finish the wing molt in time for July.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thanks Frank I will take your advice appreciate it.
When the young birds are weaned off how soon should I let them out in the garden. Love the videos by the way. I am new to the racing game have some good yb don’t want to rush them but I know I need to let them get their bearings
Hello, I find about a week in and out of the settling cage is enough. They should be comfortable entering the loft. Best to stay with them when you let them loose to discourage hawks.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons cheers frank appreciate the feedback
As far as practicing mixing/breaking, I’ve heard letting them out right before sunset can make them break as they have a rush to go home. Do you have any thoughts on this?
You are right. I love afternoon training but have not done this in years. The pigeons learn to come out and go right home. Good point.
Hello sir Frank . Im curious when you said you educate them early. Can you educate/ train birds while they are molting? Im nee to the sports not using dark system nor light system just natural
You can train when they are molting as long as they are loft flying, just pick good days and go slow. Start short and do not hurt them. If they have a long flight or more than an hour on the wing give them a day off to rest.
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Afternoon Frank! When you release YBs to the skies for the first time ....do you find overcast or sun is best to prevent early losses /// morning or evening? thanks! Karl
Also with various age groups of YBs ... do you rec starting them out in the sky together or release age groups when you feel each age group is ready?
Hello Karl, Mornings are always better and I like to see blue sky with big white puffy cumulus clouds. Clear blue skies are never easy for the pigeons as well as haze and blue skies. Do not start on overcast days or bad weather. I do flock toss but you could easily start the different age groups or break them up into smaller groups the first couple training tosses.
Frank how would you train ybs to come over the sea from England to Scotland I always get cleaned out like release 60 and 20 return and that’s every yr so if you look on the map I’m in dunfermline Scotland birds get released in Alnwick Northumberland England
That is difficult. You need to have the coming from about 20 miles before they hit the water. If you train too close the the water they will not cross. They sort of need a running start. I do not have experience with this.
I took a look at your location and release point. There is not much you can do accept move to a new location south of where you currently are preferably south side of the bay. All research shows that pigeons invariably stay over land as long as they can before venturing over water. Then they cross as short a distance as they can to the other shore. A straight line from Alnwick to your the vicinity of your loft is roughly 129 kilometers. I believe they will fly to the point near Queensferry before they cross the bay. That means they will be flying at least extra kilometer over the straight line.
@@billastell3753 Thanks bill i will try that see how wee fare bud
Do you race widowhood with old birds ? Or do you just race youngsters? And what are the weather conditions during the racing seazon ?Greatings from Belgium .Love your videos .
Hello Herman, I am strictly an Old Bird racer. Young birds do not excite me very much although this year we have a convention race that I will work for. I race widow cocks and celibate hens. Old bird racing is for me!
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons I was caretaker but the owner died in November and all the pigeons were sold .We raced very well with old cocks and hens but never again total widowhood ,it begins great but when you lose birds the results drop .Young birds here in Belgium get to much medication so you end up with pigeons who are weak .A finciar like Michel Dubois never puts his yougsters in the basket but he let the pigeons grow out and the first year he looks at results is when they're 2 years old .But then he's a long distance racer .Also his youngsters get no medication at all .To me that's the way to build a strong line of pigeons .Love your videos and good luck the coming seazon .
Thank you so much! Great insight.
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Happy you liked this.
What is your opinion on flying old birds with your youngsters on training tosses?
I do not think it hurts to fly old birds with the young. I have never tried this but it cannot hurt.
Sir, I did it in the past and my lost to say the least is that I never lost a single youngster, not bragging. Cape Town
Frank - once you trained your pigeons 50 miles each directions (south, north, east, and west). Are they ready for 175 to 300 miles races or you need to train the pigeons farther than 50 miles? Thanks
My first race is about 125 miles. If I get them to 50 miles they are ready to fly 125 miles. If your first race is 175 miles you may want to toss them down the race course to about 80 miles.
Thanks Frank. Is 4-5 months old too young for 250-300 miles races? Is there a target age that you shoot for by the time of the last couple races?
That is not too young. I wean my babies usually in June and they are racing 300 mile races early to middle of October
Regarding your video, if you have to teach them how to win by breaking etc then how do you expect them to win in a one loft race? Or is the answer is they’re already better pigeons and they’ll win in the one loft race?
One loft races are a bit mysterious. All the pigeons fly home to the same location. They are not mixed with other pigeons. The winners in some of the bigger one loft races over the years had overcome adversity at some point in the training or racing. Many winners were lost and figured this out and came back to the one loft race. Much of the time the high average speed birds do not do well in the final. It seems to be the birds that did have to think more, because they made mistakes throughout the series that win the series.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons do you think that a pigeon fancier that lives in a bad loft location and can’t win a race in his club can win in a one loft race?
As it’s very hard to see how good the pigeons are because they’re not winning but the pigeons at a good loft location may not have as good birds, would you agree with my theory?
@@hendry147147 I'm not Frank but I would agree with you. Just because a persons birds don't win in club races means very little. Club and combine wins have more to do with weather, location and the quality of management. In one loft racing it's pretty much all about the birds individual qualities. In one loft racing all those variable are the same.
@@billastell3753 I’m from the Uk and I had a pigeon 4th in the ace pigeon before it’s went to the final race, which they had to cross the water , out of 100 birds that’s was in the final (386 was in the loft at the start) only 16 came back on the day , first bird wasn’t quick either. These birds are 6-9 months old and you’re sending them to cross the water and expect a good race … if they’d race from the coast and I’m pretty sure the results would of been different plus more returns.
my 4th ace pigeon didn’t make it back unfortunately.
Another thing with pigeon fanciers that they’ll treat for this or treat for that and absolutely no reason for it . Why can’t they be brave enough to tell everyone at the one loft races that they’re NOT going to treat them? …
When do you train them to trap ?
I usually train them to trap later closer to the season. My birds tend to come home and run in because of the hawks. I must do a video on trap training tips.
Do you worm your young? If so at what age?
I do worm them maybe two months old before they go to the one loft races. I also worm before the race season and sometimes during the season.
Your part on rest? You don't even let them loft fly after the said time on the wing? Don't you find in doing so they get stiff and have a build up of latic acid?
That getting stiff and lactic acid stuff is a myth. I should do a video on this. If fed correctly you can fly 508 miles on Saturday. Completely locked in and rested until the following Tuesday toss at 35 miles. Rest Wednesday and fly a 45 mile toss on Thursday. Team goes back to another 500 mile race for Saturday. In a two week period my old bird team exercises two times in two weeks and dominates all season long. This is what I do for the 400, 500, 500 and 600 mile races. They have to be fed perfectly to do this.
I'm very interested with the Fed correctly system. With the increase in birds of prey, fuel prices, etc anytime we can save time and keep the birds safer with great results , I'm game.
In any sport you have to evolve to be successful.
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Any irish in you pal?
My Dad's father was from Galway. I am mostly Italian but have the Irish last name.
You probably need a better microphone. I can't hear you at all.
That’s odd. This is one of my most popular videos. It plays just fine. I think the audio problem is in your end. Try on another devise. I did buy a new microphone that I will use going forward. I did watch the video earlier on my phone and the audio was great.
this video has the type of information that can make you go from average to giving your pigeons a chance and dominating frank I am no where close to racing pigeons yet but I watch these videos to in bed this knowledge into my 🧠 for when I do start I love the approach keep it simple and different see they actually learn and increase their homing ability also thank you 😎🏆🧬🪽🪽🙏🏼
You are too nice! Racing and competing will be so much fun.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons most definitely 😎🙏🏼🏆