I feel that way about MvC2, what about it do you like so much? Specifically please, I'm interested in CvSNK2 but I've never played it or been into KOF or their characters. I have watched some tourney matches and it's fun to watch.
@@Alakazzam09 The different grooves (including custom grooves) and the ratio system give it more meaningful options than any other fighter I can think of. By far, actually. It also has an extremely large and diverse cast of fan favorites from the two biggest 2D fighting powerhouses.
Not everyone loves it, electronic music ages horribly and this is basically an europop mixtape, I like rock soundtracks on fighting games personally, but many other genres fit as long as they put effort in creating something fitting, like the bluesy, classic, jazzy, folk soundtrack of Fatal Fury, Art Of Fighting and earlier kof's. The soundtrack of MVC and MVC2 was lazily made and was probably just outsourced rather than designed with the game in mind.
CvS2 soundtrack is good. The variety in numbers is a bit lacking during actual game play, as there's not many stages to choose from, especially during the arcade days (only six stages were available in versus mode - New York was surprisingly available in 1P only). All things considered, it aged very well. So did CvS1 to be honest.
This game is EASILY the best fighting game of all time. If capcom truly wanted to make some money, they would make part 3 with a nice meaty roster and redo the sprites in more of a KOF 13 style
So many other characters I Would have added Adon Strider hiryu Hayate from star gladiator Cody alpha 3 Urien Karin kanzuki alpha 3 Bishamon Felicia Gallon Titanic tim from slam masters Sodom And that's just the capcom side
So many more characters I would Have added Clark steel Leona hiderin Moriya from last blade Kaede from last blade 8man Karnov from karnovs revenge Mature Sie kensou Galford And that's just the snk side
CvS2 is a monster. The roster, music, gameplay, stages. Jeez it was phenomenal. Seeing more of the SNK fam in Capcom art style... My God 😍 Love both CvS1 & 2, but 2 just pushes so many more buttons. Giving so many play styles we rarely see any more Greatest ever? Honestly it refined what the first game was capable of, and pushed it even more. Bummer we have not seen CvS3. Maybe someday
13yr old me was playing this on the gamecube. It never bothered me playing with the gamecube controller. I would play with the analog stick and never had issues. Listening to this soundtrack takes me back! 🙏
Regarding Terry Bogard appearing in Super Smash Bros Ultimate, it truly made me feel old to see all of the kiddie's comments saying "Who the hell is Terry Bogard?!?" 😂 As a Neo Geo AES owner from way back in the day, I've always been a fan of SNK as well as Capcom, so I loved the Capcom vs SNK mashups! 🕹
@@osurpless but everyone lost their shit when Sakurai announced Sans as a Mii Costume... let that sink in... Also Sakurai: Here! Another FireEmblem clone character Everyone but me: Yaaaaaay! _it's disgusting_
we don't want another SF 2 HD remaster. those 2d were just horrible. I prefer olds chool 2D pixels over 2D made by FLASH player. It so doesn't capture the game. They only need to remaster it.. put a slightly higher resolution rework on the background (bring back the amazing 2D graphics from the 1st game)
CvS2 is truly a great fighting game. It doesn't see the play from me it used too, but it brought so much and even now I am sure I only touched the tip of the iceberg. One of the things I loved was its nods to other fighters, for instance., when Sagat wins and can be heard saying "try again kid" a reference to his what the player heard when they lost in the first street fighter. Even claw, who would shake his head when matched against those he deemed ugly!
SNK releasing their respective counterpart on their pocket system is like a genie granting you a single wish and you asking for a Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich
They did release a NeoGeo version, which is the game that he said is a story for another video. SvC Chaos, look it up! It has absolutely gorgeous sprites that have aged beautifully.
@@AntonioRodriguezSilver SVC Chaos never came out until 2003 and was part of a new deal. SNK technically never even existed anymore by that point so the game was published by Playmore - the new owners of the SNK IP - but we will get into all this in a future video!
Yes this is a absurd idea by SNK, I bet Capcom where blowing on the ink on the contract before SNK changed their mind about it!... Bonkers decision that likely helped kill the company.
So. I still play this on my Dreamcast... which is hooked up in my room. In fact...played it last night. The music doesn't bother me. I think that Capcom was very much into strange music during this period in it's fighters. Look at Techromancer, Project Justice, MVC2...on...and on.. Now...the recycling of Sprites was done to an artistic end. It was a quirky, but poor decision. The highlight of the game was always the playability
I fell in love with this game cuz it came out at a time when fighting games were at their prime. This holds a special place in my heart along with mvsc2. Memories..
C Groove is from the Alphas--3 level bar supers. A Groove is from Alpha 2--custom combo super. P Groove is from Street Fighter III--parrying, one bar for full super, including raging demon. S Groove is from SNK titles that use the single bar super that you can manually charge by holding ABC (KOF 94, 95, 96, 97 Extra Mode, for example)--called Extra Gauge in this game. N Groove is from KOF 97 and 98 Advanced Mode--3 bars can be stored, built up by doing moves and charged by pressing ABC, allowing a more powerful super--called Advanced Gauge. K Groove is Rage Gauge from the Samurai Shodown series--a single super bar that builds by being hit.
I grew up playing fighting games but then drifted away from the genre so missed this gem. I discovered it at a later age so there's absolutely no nostalgia involved and I have to say it's just simply incredible. What a phenomenal game
Honestly don’t agree. CvS2 is a great game, one of my all time favorites, but the ost isn’t better than the first game at all. For me personally besides “True Love Making” and “Stimulation” (the New York stage) it’s not that great.
My biggest gripe with this game was Capcom recycling character sprites (Morrigan is the biggest offender here). If they gave Chun Li new sprites, everyone else that needed them should have had them (MORRIGAN). Another gripe I have is that this game could easily be Street Fighter vs King of Fighters. More character diversity was needed. This game could do without the evil and superpowered clones. Another gripe is the lack of EX moves. That was a missed opportunity, especially for P groove. Otherwise, the game is easily a classic.
From my experience i would say the cvs2 is bigger than mvc2. Mvc2 is definitely the favorite darling of the usa fgc. And was one of the staples of evo which is why it gives the impression of being more popular. But in terms of sales and international appeal cvs2 is the bigger one. It is still played in many countries, althouhh not as extensively as it usef to be.
The reduction to 4 attack buttons in MvC2 was trash. It's like when Mortal Kombat Armageddon dropped to only 2 fighting styles per character. I hate the lazy design, justified by a large cast.
@@robertprince2651 mvc2 back in the day was the butt of many jokes just like smash is today. Like, "why don't mvc take showers?, because you need to make a quarter circle movement to make the water run". Honestly I think the game is a mess, a glofyfied button masher for the most part, there's technique on it but you can get just fine on it by ignoring it.
My favourites in order: 1. Capcom vs Snk 2 2. Snk vs Capcom Chaos 3. Super Street Fighter 2 on the Sega Saturn 4. Street Fighter 2 Turbo Snes 5. Street Fighter 3 Third Strike
I first saw your marvel vs capcom 2 video a few weeks ago, and I've been waiting for this video ever since. My 1st favorite fighting game and my 3rd favorite game of all time
This game is amazing. I have a ton of fun every time I play it whether it's solo or with my friends. The reason people love the Cube controller is because it feels good on the hands, the A button on the center and the rest of the buttons around make it easy to press simultaneously with the other buttons, the stick feel like they can endure everything and are precise, and that "clang" sound the triggers do make you feel like you're actually pulling a trigger. If you don't like the GameCube controller, you either never played a Game Cube or you are too attached to the PS controller, which is one of the most standard controllers there are, not that it's a bad thing.
I play Capcom vs SNK 2 on the GameCube and it controls fine. I use the D-pad even though the analog stick is one of the best in the industry. And yes, I am a veteran of 2D fighters, been playing since 1994. There's a reason Nintendo still produces GameCube controllers to this very day.
Yo man. I appreciate you taking the time to do this detailed research on what made my childhood so great. Anyone who tries to say otherwise is just an angry internet troll who wouldn't say it to your face! Long live THGM!
CAPCOM VS SNK 2 IS MY FAVORITE FIGHTING GAME AFTER THE FIRST TITLE BOTH GAMES FOR PS 1 AND 2 ARE AMAZING AND I PLAYED ALL THE TIME EXCELLENT VIDEOGAME COMPANIES SIDE BY SIDE ARE THE BEST OF ALL MY LIFE I LOVE IT.
The Game Cube controller is one of the best ever made, "awful" is a word more suitable for the Dreamcast controller but anyways xD, incredible video about the greatest VS fighting crossover in gaming history. PD: God Rugal stage music is awesome, the rest is just correct, but overall this game has a better OST than Street Fighter III, Alpha 3 or Marvel Vs Capcom 2....and this is a fact. Awesome work Top Hat Gaming-san , please do SNK VS CAPCOM Chaos too!!!
Awful micro d-pad & nonsensical button layout (for fighters) is the reason for the comment. I agree with THGM. I FULLY agree with your comments regarding the music.
@@TexasHollowEarth I agree with the case of the Game Cube small D pad, but the Dreamcast D pad is even worst for fighting games and nobody says nothing bad against that controller....maybe is because everyone uses an arcade stick when playing dreamcast fighting games
Im surprised you didn’t mention the “beefs” and other interactions certain characters display before the round starts. My favorite is Terry Bogart vs Yamazaki💪🏽i used to have a list of them i got from gamestop but cant find it anymore. Chun-li vs Yang’s is cool too. Also, wicked fight is a dope azz song on this game! It’s on my playlist listen to it almost everyday!!
Yes! I think my absolute favorite is Terry Bogard and Geese Howard. Geese shows a cocky ass demeanor and Terry, filled with rage, shakes his fist and shouts "GEEEEEEEEEEEESE!" with his blood boiling.
@@XXSittinsidewaysxX Yeah when they both pull their flames out. I love that one too. Awesome rivalry. I remember seeing them on the arcade cabinets back in the day and wondering why they hated each other so much.
I absolutely loved the amount of fighters thrown in in addition to the ones that were in the previous game. They were great! Now we need a 3D rendition of Capcom VS SNK. That would be superb!
Remarkable series! I know when I played it in the arcades, and on home video game consoles, I couldn't step away, nor put it down! Totally unforgettable.
The reason the gamecube version was inferior was never about the controller. It was about the techs that other versions had were removed from the gamecube specifically. The roll cancel was removed in gc but it was placed in other versions. So obviously you’re missing out on a big gameplay feature used as a staple in the arcade.
We need a vs collection so bad since a lot of ppl don't have retro systems and can't afford the gouged prices of these classic games. I so badly want all these games on one cartridge or disc or hell digitally. Capcom has done SOOO many compilations but we never get these games, why?
How DARE you objectively look at my favorite fighting game and point out it’s flaws that I actively overlook because I have fond memories of playing it with my friends! :)
As someone who grew up playing fighting games on a controller rather then on sticks, I definitely prefer the PS2 controller. At this point it's jus muscle memory for me. Square-Triangle-R1 are your Punches X-Circle-R2 are your kicks L1- ex punches L2- ex kicks. Mind you not all game have the EX mechanic so those are generally replaceable Also the reason the GameCube controller is regarded as one of the best I think is how comfortable it is to hold. The indents on the triggers really made holding it feel nice. Definitely not my pick for a fighting game outside of Smash Bros.
My only complaint about the CvS games is I feel the King of Fighters original characters (Kyo, Iori, etc.) did not adapt well to the slower Street Fighter-style engine. Fatal Fury characters did alright because that game ran at a similar speed, but KoF is an extremely fast-paced game and the characters were made with that in mind. That aside, this game is one of the best fighters ever made. I still give the edge to MvC2, but this is a real close 2nd.
I remember the demo for the xbox version (on one of the Exhibition disc) was the whole game without online. I played it all the time. One of my favorite fighting games
@TET - COM Not sure what you mean played out. Also, isn't Kyosuke considered one of the worst characters in the game? Somehow, I highly doubt Batsu would have been seen the same way.
good coverage of the game. I had this on the dreamcast, but the game stopped playing on my DC. Preferred this version over the 1st version, which I also own on the DC.
You should begin to do a “What If” or hypothetical melee mash-ups, because I would’ve loved to see a Sega Vs Capcom. Or a Sega vs SNK. Or a Konami vs SNK. Etc. 👍
One of my top 3 fighters of all time! I'm so glad I have a Dreamcast with this game. Yes the controller is rough but tru old school fighters like us make it work. I also had it once on my OG Xbox way back in the day but man if only it could come to Xbox One via Backwards Compatible games I would be happy AF. Either way great video. Still hoping for a CvS3! One day lol
Really a fantastic game. Reignited my love for 2D fighters after stumbling upon it in the arcades all the way back in 2001. Bought the GameCube port the day it came out and tried my damndest to play with the stock controller. Fantastic character lineup, I had never played any of SNK’s fighting games prior, however this entry made me seek out the KOF series, Samurai Shodown and Fatal Fury.
1st off, the MAD story should be: how many mistakes can be picked up in this video P groove is totally from sf3 series. I guess you never tried that game series in depth at all this really annoyed me, when you get this so wrong moreover, i am not even trying to correct anymore groove references, because it is well established everywhere in the FGC by now after watching the whole video, i can tell this is one the least researched video from you to-date, such as groove origins and character origins with mistake everywhere, butchered names also everywhere. i am still amazed at how you would still be doing fighting games videos, despite knowing very little of them in general, i have watched all of them from you, and i was holding back on commenting, because i could see you have been trying very hard, although you had mistakes here and there. But you totally dont get this game at all, this game is meant to be a celebration of both companies 's pre-millennium creations and clashed them together for fans, this is a very comprehensive piece of art, very fun and yet very unbalanced. Not only you have a vast selection of chars, but you can also use different grooves in combinations which will affect the play style of the characters, not to mention different ratios and will impact team combinations as well. yes the sprites can do some work, mostly right with Morrigan's, but 80% of them are new redrawns, barring a few from SFA3, and the 3D background is a bit meh from todays standard. but you have to consider what year it was released on, it was 2001 and 2D backgrounds were considered outdated, and i was to wowed by that when i saw that in the arcade when they combined 2D played style with 3D animated background, although i do admit if they had added the intro for each stage, just like CVS, it would have been perfect. lastly the GC controller, not going to say it is perfect. but if you consider MOST of the game that we play, regardless genre, we have ONE main button which we use the most, it could be a side-scroller, like veiwtiful joe, 3D platformer like modern Mario, even survival horror like REmake, THE ONE button that you press constantly you dont want to miss it, and in a design philosophy it totally makes sense, and it shouldnt be dismissed as bad design just because it is not a traditional button layout. and i personally loved it, and the only downside is that it doesnt work well in fighting games, that i cant argue.
What perfect timing for this video. I recently picked this up for the Gamecube. One thing I'm having a hard time getting into is having multiple fighters. I do appreciate that there is a mode where you only choose one.
One of the weirdest things about this game, is the number of back ground music tracks it has on the disc, that you can hear in the sound test mode, but only like 6 are used in the actual game. There are amazing remixes of KOF and SF and I have yet to figure out how to hear them while playing.
Great video THGM. A couple of comments.... Maki IS a sprite rip in this game, too. Her sprite is from Street Fighter Alpha 3. Also, you can unlock two custom grooves that can be fully customized, in CvS2.
I loved this game. That's saying a lot since i was unfamiliar with SNK beyond Fatal Fury at that point. i feel a case could be made for it being one of the best Fighting Games of all time. It also was the first online Fighting Game so that's going to trigger a lot of folk's nostalgia. :3
Fun detail about the Xbox version: it only cost $5 :) An edition of the US Official Xbox Magazine, which included a demo disc, had a "demo" of the game that was the full thing! Sure, it was in Japanese only and didn't allow saving, but those limitations were not deal breakers! So sorry Capcom because even though I am a big fan of your fighting games (and SNK's!), I didn't buy it because Official Xbox Magazine pretty much gave it away!
Yeah, if somebody forced me to only play one fighting game for the rest of my life, I wouldn't even hesitate to pick this one.
I feel that way about MvC2, what about it do you like so much? Specifically please, I'm interested in CvSNK2 but I've never played it or been into KOF or their characters. I have watched some tourney matches and it's fun to watch.
@@Alakazzam09 The different grooves (including custom grooves) and the ratio system give it more meaningful options than any other fighter I can think of. By far, actually. It also has an extremely large and diverse cast of fan favorites from the two biggest 2D fighting powerhouses.
Bro u can play dis on yo phone with a ps4 remote
Why u like this game so much? Graphic is not fully 3D
Same.
We can harp on the music all we want, but it’s 2019 and I still bump “true love makin”
This is tuna with bacon
Damn for real same hear lol
One of the very few songs that was actually good.
That's the only one worth remembering.
All the time
The MAD story is that this game is not playable or available on current gen or even the previous gen THATS pure madness 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
If only it were been released in the PS3 or 360...
I thought it was available for the ps4
It was a PS2 classic on PS3
@@Djnighteye But it sucks big time because the emulator has infinite input lag :(
@@Djnighteye - Complete with input lag.
I always thought:
C - SF Alpha 3's A-sm
A - SF Alpha 3's V-ism
P - SF 3 (with parry)
You thought right, p groove is sf3
Try EX1 C groove with run and roll, you will love it
C is just super street fighter 2 groove
@@emansfvera C is Alpha 3 A-ism because it has three levels of super.
Same.
I'm sorry but the soundtrack for CvS2 is an absolute banger
Yuo
You're crazy. CvS 2 has an AMAZING soundtrack that still holds up today. It's easily one of the best fighter soundtracks.
It was alright.
Not everyone loves it, electronic music ages horribly and this is basically an europop mixtape, I like rock soundtracks on fighting games personally, but many other genres fit as long as they put effort in creating something fitting, like the bluesy, classic, jazzy, folk soundtrack of Fatal Fury, Art Of Fighting and earlier kof's. The soundtrack of MVC and MVC2 was lazily made and was probably just outsourced rather than designed with the game in mind.
CvS2 soundtrack is good. The variety in numbers is a bit lacking during actual game play, as there's not many stages to choose from, especially during the arcade days (only six stages were available in versus mode - New York was surprisingly available in 1P only). All things considered, it aged very well. So did CvS1 to be honest.
This game is EASILY the best fighting game of all time. If capcom truly wanted to make some money, they would make part 3 with a nice meaty roster and redo the sprites in more of a KOF 13 style
This. Kof 13 is amazing and easily the most beautiful 2d fighting game. I'm sure if they do something like that they can get a loy of money.
Capcom characters in KoF13 style would make me moan louder than a corn studio
In my opinion, this game has the best character roster ever. Great game.
Best crossover in fighting game history ever. Best roster? I don't know about that
@@sladejosephwilson2300 *shrug* We all have our opinions.
So many other characters I
Would have added
Adon
Strider hiryu
Hayate from star gladiator
Cody alpha 3
Urien
Karin kanzuki alpha 3
Bishamon
Felicia
Gallon
Titanic tim from slam masters
Sodom
And that's just the capcom side
So many more characters I would
Have added
Clark steel
Leona hiderin
Moriya from last blade
Kaede from last blade
8man
Karnov from karnovs revenge
Mature
Sie kensou
Galford
And that's just the snk side
This game and Tekken 2 as far as best character rosters
CvS2 is a monster. The roster, music, gameplay, stages. Jeez it was phenomenal. Seeing more of the SNK fam in Capcom art style... My God 😍
Love both CvS1 & 2, but 2 just pushes so many more buttons. Giving so many play styles we rarely see any more
Greatest ever? Honestly it refined what the first game was capable of, and pushed it even more. Bummer we have not seen CvS3. Maybe someday
13yr old me was playing this on the gamecube. It never bothered me playing with the gamecube controller. I would play with the analog stick and never had issues. Listening to this soundtrack takes me back! 🙏
The music for this game is Fucking incredible. This is True Love Makin’!
Regarding Terry Bogard appearing in Super Smash Bros Ultimate, it truly made me feel old to see all of the kiddie's comments saying "Who the hell is Terry Bogard?!?" 😂 As a Neo Geo AES owner from way back in the day, I've always been a fan of SNK as well as Capcom, so I loved the Capcom vs SNK mashups! 🕹
I wish I had an AES, I am also a fan of both
People say that about Terry?!
Get serious!
@@osurpless they do, specially in the US
Imagine Haomaru as a DLC character...
Ryu and Ken and Haomaru and Terry together in SMASH ULTIMATE
@@osurpless but everyone lost their shit when Sakurai announced Sans as a Mii Costume... let that sink in...
Also Sakurai: Here! Another FireEmblem clone character
Everyone but me: Yaaaaaay!
_it's disgusting_
This is a game that needs an hd remake....
Have to keep that Morrigan sprite the same though
No. Capcom will ruin it
we don't want another SF 2 HD remaster. those 2d were just horrible. I prefer olds chool 2D pixels over 2D made by FLASH player. It so doesn't capture the game. They only need to remaster it.. put a slightly higher resolution rework on the background (bring back the amazing 2D graphics from the 1st game)
No but what this & the one before it needs is remasters on Current/Next Gen.
@@capcom23 tbh hd is better than the pixelated ones, i havw all the street fighter games hd looks great
The God Rugal theme is easily my favorite end boss theme in video games.
This game is True Love Makin' in its finest sense.
CvS2 had some killer tunes, some of the most memorable for me.
CvS2 is truly a great fighting game. It doesn't see the play from me it used too, but it brought so much and even now I am sure I only touched the tip of the iceberg. One of the things I loved was its nods to other fighters, for instance., when Sagat wins and can be heard saying "try again kid" a reference to his what the player heard when they lost in the first street fighter. Even claw, who would shake his head when matched against those he deemed ugly!
Yes this is one of my favorite games of all time thank you for looking at this
It can definitely be argued that it's one of the greatest fighting games. It is definitely one of my favorites.
Yeah the greatest 2D fighting game ever made
Nope. Great game, just not the greatest.
“True Love Makin’” slaps as a track tho
SNK releasing their respective counterpart on their pocket system is like a genie granting you a single wish and you asking for a Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich
They did release a NeoGeo version, which is the game that he said is a story for another video. SvC Chaos, look it up! It has absolutely gorgeous sprites that have aged beautifully.
They did that to sell more NGPC, but obviously they failed...
@@AntonioRodriguezSilver SVC Chaos never came out until 2003 and was part of a new deal. SNK technically never even existed anymore by that point so the game was published by Playmore - the new owners of the SNK IP - but we will get into all this in a future video!
@@TopHatGamingManChannel Well, but that is an extreme technicality :). Looking very forward to that video!
Yes this is a absurd idea by SNK, I bet Capcom where blowing on the ink on the contract before SNK changed their mind about it!... Bonkers decision that likely helped kill the company.
So. I still play this on my Dreamcast... which is hooked up in my room. In fact...played it last night. The music doesn't bother me. I think that Capcom was very much into strange music during this period in it's fighters. Look at Techromancer, Project Justice, MVC2...on...and on.. Now...the recycling of Sprites was done to an artistic end. It was a quirky, but poor decision. The highlight of the game was always the playability
this guy just mentioned Tech Romancer, I am not alone lol
@@sk8hawk4134 Excellent and largely overlooked game.
The music is godlike
I fell in love with this game cuz it came out at a time when fighting games were at their prime. This holds a special place in my heart along with mvsc2. Memories..
C Groove is from the Alphas--3 level bar supers.
A Groove is from Alpha 2--custom combo super.
P Groove is from Street Fighter III--parrying, one bar for full super, including raging demon.
S Groove is from SNK titles that use the single bar super that you can manually charge by holding ABC (KOF 94, 95, 96, 97 Extra Mode, for example)--called Extra Gauge in this game.
N Groove is from KOF 97 and 98 Advanced Mode--3 bars can be stored, built up by doing moves and charged by pressing ABC, allowing a more powerful super--called Advanced Gauge.
K Groove is Rage Gauge from the Samurai Shodown series--a single super bar that builds by being hit.
This also had a boss mode where you fight only the evil versions of the main bosses after defeating main panel first.
The music in this game is godlike.
Ikr, fukin amazing
This game is timeless and has aged so well. I ways go back to it. It's infinitely playable and even just messing around I find out new cool things.
I grew up playing fighting games but then drifted away from the genre so missed this gem. I discovered it at a later age so there's absolutely no nostalgia involved and I have to say it's just simply incredible. What a phenomenal game
Yang maybe the only SF3 representative but to be fair, Chun Li is essentially SF3 style in terms of how she animates
Her supers were also changed to more match her SF3 form
Yang only appears in the background and in a super. Yun is the playable one.
@@GunterJPN Yun, sorry yes that
True. Chun-Li's sprite was definitely based on SF3. She was lacking a few special moves in this game though.
@@prof.x3821 not quite as fluid of a sprite either. For both characters
The music in CvS2 is better then CvS1 and way more memorable.
Both awful
Chaos is better than both
Honestly don’t agree. CvS2 is a great game, one of my all time favorites, but the ost isn’t better than the first game at all. For me personally besides “True Love Making” and “Stimulation” (the New York stage) it’s not that great.
The King Retro Fighters! Top Hat Gaming !!
"Wow they came out with a sneaky surprise attack at the start of the round!" I will never forget the announcer 😂
19:37
Lol @ "The Gamecube's inferior controller".
Literally one of the best controllers ever made.
My biggest gripe with this game was Capcom recycling character sprites (Morrigan is the biggest offender here). If they gave Chun Li new sprites, everyone else that needed them should have had them (MORRIGAN).
Another gripe I have is that this game could easily be Street Fighter vs King of Fighters. More character diversity was needed. This game could do without the evil and superpowered clones.
Another gripe is the lack of EX moves. That was a missed opportunity, especially for P groove.
Otherwise, the game is easily a classic.
And those 2001 negative reviews were wrong! The soundtrack is epic especially Shin Akumas theme and true love makin’
From my experience i would say the cvs2 is bigger than mvc2.
Mvc2 is definitely the favorite darling of the usa fgc.
And was one of the staples of evo which is why it gives the impression of being more popular.
But in terms of sales and international appeal cvs2 is the bigger one.
It is still played in many countries, althouhh not as extensively as it usef to be.
CVS 2 is the more technically sound game. MVC 2 is a disc of combo insanity nicely crafted.
The reduction to 4 attack buttons in MvC2 was trash. It's like when Mortal Kombat Armageddon dropped to only 2 fighting styles per character. I hate the lazy design, justified by a large cast.
@@robertprince2651 mvc2 back in the day was the butt of many jokes just like smash is today. Like, "why don't mvc take showers?, because you need to make a quarter circle movement to make the water run". Honestly I think the game is a mess, a glofyfied button masher for the most part, there's technique on it but you can get just fine on it by ignoring it.
My favourites in order:
1. Capcom vs Snk 2
2. Snk vs Capcom Chaos
3. Super Street Fighter 2 on the Sega Saturn
4. Street Fighter 2 Turbo Snes
5. Street Fighter 3 Third Strike
Agreed!
I first saw your marvel vs capcom 2 video a few weeks ago, and I've been waiting for this video ever since.
My 1st favorite fighting game and my 3rd favorite game of all time
This game is amazing. I have a ton of fun every time I play it whether it's solo or with my friends.
The reason people love the Cube controller is because it feels good on the hands, the A button on the center and the rest of the buttons around make it easy to press simultaneously with the other buttons, the stick feel like they can endure everything and are precise, and that "clang" sound the triggers do make you feel like you're actually pulling a trigger.
If you don't like the GameCube controller, you either never played a Game Cube or you are too attached to the PS controller, which is one of the most standard controllers there are, not that it's a bad thing.
I play Capcom vs SNK 2 on the GameCube and it controls fine. I use the D-pad even though the analog stick is one of the best in the industry. And yes, I am a veteran of 2D fighters, been playing since 1994. There's a reason Nintendo still produces GameCube controllers to this very day.
I love my EX groove using the C groove as a base with the N groove rolling and running, I encourage you to try it
The game has unlockable custom grooves, too.
Just use the N Groove. Same mechanics. Only difference is MAX mode🤷
@@Ticketman99 thing is I do not like to press both triggers to go MAX
@@seadx6 And *MY* thing is it's better than making an EX Groove just to play characters as if they're all SFA Guy🤷
It's just too easy😁
@@Ticketman99 with the EX groove I like to be a rusher with Akuma, running, rolling and DP-ing my rivals while still having the alpha gauge
Yo man. I appreciate you taking the time to do this detailed research on what made my childhood so great. Anyone who tries to say otherwise is just an angry internet troll who wouldn't say it to your face!
Long live THGM!
happy 20th anniversary capcom vs. snk 2!!! :3
When I try to decide if SF3 3rd Strike or Garou is the best I remember that the ultimate tiebreaker exists.
This is my favorite fighting game and I love the music
CAPCOM VS SNK 2 IS MY FAVORITE FIGHTING GAME AFTER THE FIRST TITLE BOTH GAMES FOR PS 1 AND 2 ARE AMAZING AND I PLAYED ALL THE TIME EXCELLENT VIDEOGAME COMPANIES SIDE BY SIDE ARE THE BEST OF ALL MY LIFE I LOVE IT.
The Game Cube controller is one of the best ever made, "awful" is a word more suitable for the Dreamcast controller but anyways xD, incredible video about the greatest VS fighting crossover in gaming history.
PD: God Rugal stage music is awesome, the rest is just correct, but overall this game has a better OST than Street Fighter III, Alpha 3 or Marvel Vs Capcom 2....and this is a fact. Awesome work Top Hat Gaming-san , please do SNK VS CAPCOM Chaos too!!!
Awful micro d-pad & nonsensical button layout (for fighters) is the reason for the comment. I agree with THGM.
I FULLY agree with your comments regarding the music.
@@TexasHollowEarth I agree with the case of the Game Cube small D pad, but the Dreamcast D pad is even worst for fighting games and nobody says nothing bad against that controller....maybe is because everyone uses an arcade stick when playing dreamcast fighting games
@@theultimatepololo - I always use PS2-DC controller adapters. Same on the Gamecube when I played through MGS Twin Snakes.
The inconsistent sprites had always been my only issue. An issue I basically overlook because this is still one of my all time favorite fighters.
Cammy looked super bootleg in this game. I'd have preferred SSF2T Cammy. Also, Sagat was too beefy, being his Alpha self.
Im surprised you didn’t mention the “beefs” and other interactions certain characters display before the round starts. My favorite is Terry Bogart vs Yamazaki💪🏽i used to have a list of them i got from gamestop but cant find it anymore. Chun-li vs Yang’s is cool too. Also, wicked fight is a dope azz song on this game! It’s on my playlist listen to it almost everyday!!
Yes! I think my absolute favorite is Terry Bogard and Geese Howard. Geese shows a cocky ass demeanor and Terry, filled with rage, shakes his fist and shouts "GEEEEEEEEEEEESE!" with his blood boiling.
@@kickheavy8982 my favorite would be Iori vs Kyo
@@XXSittinsidewaysxX Yeah when they both pull their flames out. I love that one too. Awesome rivalry. I remember seeing them on the arcade cabinets back in the day and wondering why they hated each other so much.
The music in CvS2 is great
Also P-GROOVE is based on SFIII series, not SSFIIT
Actually, they didn't redraw Chun-li. It's her sprite from 3rd Strike lol
I absolutely loved the amount of fighters thrown in in addition to the ones that were in the previous game. They were great! Now we need a 3D rendition of Capcom VS SNK. That would be superb!
Remarkable series! I know when I played it in the arcades, and on home video game consoles, I couldn't step away, nor put it down! Totally unforgettable.
The reason the gamecube version was inferior was never about the controller. It was about the techs that other versions had were removed from the gamecube specifically. The roll cancel was removed in gc but it was placed in other versions. So obviously you’re missing out on a big gameplay feature used as a staple in the arcade.
I had this game on Xbox for years and didn't know what the different grooves meant till today lol.
I love Capcom Vs SNK 2 on GameCube and PS2 To me it is the Greatest Fighter for Capcom
True love making is timeless
One of my favs as a little kid had the gamecube port lol
"I'm gonna take you for a ride."
- Capcom
Reading your comment with MvC2 character select screen in the back.
I seriously loathe that song
Who would win? One ridey boi ? Or a love makey bio?
We need a vs collection so bad since a lot of ppl don't have retro systems and can't afford the gouged prices of these classic games. I so badly want all these games on one cartridge or disc or hell digitally. Capcom has done SOOO many compilations but we never get these games, why?
I still have my copy, I just need a ps2
THIS is my favorite fighting game of ALL TIME!!! My #1! Perfect special move abilities, perfect stages, and the best Fighting Game Soundtrack ever!!!!
How DARE you objectively look at my favorite fighting game and point out it’s flaws that I actively overlook because I have fond memories of playing it with my friends! :)
... love this damn game! The only one with 6 button Geese & Rock Howard! I played alot of this one.
As someone who grew up playing fighting games on a controller rather then on sticks, I definitely prefer the PS2 controller. At this point it's jus muscle memory for me.
Square-Triangle-R1 are your Punches
X-Circle-R2 are your kicks
L1- ex punches
L2- ex kicks.
Mind you not all game have the EX mechanic so those are generally replaceable
Also the reason the GameCube controller is regarded as one of the best I think is how comfortable it is to hold. The indents on the triggers really made holding it feel nice. Definitely not my pick for a fighting game outside of Smash Bros.
s/o to my 2nd ever gamecube game. I play this nonstop
This game literally made the first one feel like a joke! Absolutely love it! To this very day I am still jamming to the Osaka beat!
My only complaint about the CvS games is I feel the King of Fighters original characters (Kyo, Iori, etc.) did not adapt well to the slower Street Fighter-style engine. Fatal Fury characters did alright because that game ran at a similar speed, but KoF is an extremely fast-paced game and the characters were made with that in mind.
That aside, this game is one of the best fighters ever made. I still give the edge to MvC2, but this is a real close 2nd.
The SNK v Capcom games made a profit. Just not enough.
The music is good.
Really awesome game.
I remember the demo for the xbox version (on one of the Exhibition disc) was the whole game without online. I played it all the time. One of my favorite fighting games
Mine too, I had the full game
That HAD to be a mistake! I'm sure someone lost their job over that one.
I remember a friend having that. I sometimes wondered if I dreamt that
To this day, I'm still puzzled about why Capcom put Kyosuke in the game as a playable character instead of Batsu.
Very odd choice, indeed.
So true.
Because there was many shoto character in this game. So Kyosuke chosen instead because he isn't shoto
@TET - COM Not sure what you mean played out. Also, isn't Kyosuke considered one of the worst characters in the game? Somehow, I highly doubt Batsu would have been seen the same way.
@TET - COM Whatever you're saying, it's still not excuse for why he shouldn't have been in the game.
CVS2 is my favorite fighting game.
Fyi...Streetfighter 3 Third Strike is considered one of the best fighting games to ever come out...In my eyes it’s the best fighting game of all time
Goddamit i want Capcom vs SNK 3 with a remake of true love making to blast in its online lobbies
good coverage of the game. I had this on the dreamcast, but the game stopped playing on my DC. Preferred this version over the 1st version, which I also own on the DC.
You should begin to do a “What If” or hypothetical melee mash-ups, because I would’ve loved to see a Sega Vs Capcom. Or a Sega vs SNK. Or a Konami vs SNK. Etc. 👍
10:04
I thought you had enough whining from the SF3 fanboys ?, now you're just asking for it ;)
One of my top 3 fighters of all time! I'm so glad I have a Dreamcast with this game. Yes the controller is rough but tru old school fighters like us make it work. I also had it once on my OG Xbox way back in the day but man if only it could come to Xbox One via Backwards Compatible games I would be happy AF. Either way great video. Still hoping for a CvS3! One day lol
10:18 Wow, they really have a level where a ship embarks into the fight from way behind the scene. Madness of background sequence and detail!
Really a fantastic game. Reignited my love for 2D fighters after stumbling upon it in the arcades all the way back in 2001. Bought the GameCube port the day it came out and tried my damndest to play with the stock controller. Fantastic character lineup, I had never played any of SNK’s fighting games prior, however this entry made me seek out the KOF series, Samurai Shodown and Fatal Fury.
1st off, the MAD story should be: how many mistakes can be picked up in this video
P groove is totally from sf3 series.
I guess you never tried that game series in depth at all
this really annoyed me, when you get this so wrong
moreover, i am not even trying to correct anymore groove references, because it is well established everywhere in the FGC by now
after watching the whole video, i can tell this is one the least researched video from you to-date, such as groove origins and character origins
with mistake everywhere, butchered names also everywhere.
i am still amazed at how you would still be doing fighting games videos, despite knowing very little of them in general, i have watched all of them from you, and i was holding back on commenting, because i could see you have been trying very hard, although you had mistakes here and there.
But you totally dont get this game at all, this game is meant to be a celebration of both companies 's pre-millennium creations and clashed them together for fans, this is a very comprehensive piece of art, very fun and yet very unbalanced. Not only you have a vast selection of chars, but you can also use different grooves in combinations which will affect the play style of the characters, not to mention different ratios and will impact team combinations as well.
yes the sprites can do some work, mostly right with Morrigan's, but 80% of them are new redrawns, barring a few from SFA3, and the 3D background is a bit meh from todays standard. but you have to consider what year it was released on, it was 2001 and 2D backgrounds were considered outdated, and i was to wowed by that when i saw that in the arcade when they combined 2D played style with 3D animated background, although i do admit if they had added the intro for each stage, just like CVS, it would have been perfect.
lastly the GC controller, not going to say it is perfect. but if you consider MOST of the game that we play, regardless genre, we have ONE main button which we use the most, it could be a side-scroller, like veiwtiful joe, 3D platformer like modern Mario, even survival horror like REmake, THE ONE button that you press constantly you dont want to miss it, and in a design philosophy it totally makes sense, and it shouldnt be dismissed as bad design just because it is not a traditional button layout. and i personally loved it, and the only downside is that it doesnt work well in fighting games, that i cant argue.
That Morrigan sprite is such a weird and sloppy addition to an otherwise polished game. Even when it came out me and my friends made fun of it.
What perfect timing for this video. I recently picked this up for the Gamecube. One thing I'm having a hard time getting into is having multiple fighters. I do appreciate that there is a mode where you only choose one.
Chang and Choi are Korean, not Japanese. Chun-Li's model is from SF3, not redrawn for this game. The 3D backgrounds look great still to this day.
this cat never knows what he's talking about. spits so much straight up wrong information.
@@drunkredninja yep, I've seen lot of wrong information in several of these videos... Even though I'm not an expert or anything like that
One of the weirdest things about this game, is the number of back ground music tracks it has on the disc, that you can hear in the sound test mode, but only like 6 are used in the actual game. There are amazing remixes of KOF and SF and I have yet to figure out how to hear them while playing.
For me, It's this, MK2, and Tekken 4
Great video THGM. A couple of comments.... Maki IS a sprite rip in this game, too. Her sprite is from Street Fighter Alpha 3. Also, you can unlock two custom grooves that can be fully customized, in CvS2.
I loved this game. That's saying a lot since i was unfamiliar with SNK beyond Fatal Fury at that point. i feel a case could be made for it being one of the best Fighting Games of all time. It also was the first online Fighting Game so that's going to trigger a lot of folk's nostalgia. :3
Seeing Geese brings back so many memories. He was my main for this game. This game truly was off the chain
Fun detail about the Xbox version: it only cost $5 :)
An edition of the US Official Xbox Magazine, which included a demo disc, had a "demo" of the game that was the full thing! Sure, it was in Japanese only and didn't allow saving, but those limitations were not deal breakers! So sorry Capcom because even though I am a big fan of your fighting games (and SNK's!), I didn't buy it because Official Xbox Magazine pretty much gave it away!
Nakoruru, nightmare, so many attack options
The best arcade fighting
the guy at the title screen says "capcum".
I honestly love the music
The answer to your title question is "YES!".
Yo, P groove is SF3. parry's and what not.
solid video tho, probly my favorite fighter ever
Yes! Love this one..so many GC memories... ::Nodding intensifies::
I think Dan got a new sprite also
Capcom vs SNK 2 and Marvel vs Capcom 2 are the both the Greatest Fighting Games of All Time.
This game is an art
Ughhhhhh I forgot that Akuma is called Gouki in the Japanese version. So goddamn stupid.