In my opinion, somewhere after the piano for $275 thousand, the difference in sound became less and less significant. I even liked the sound of the mentioned piano more than the more expensive variants. I think the cost is more justified by the design, the material of the case, the limitations, the brand and the status of the architect. And the filling is not much different
Same for me. 100,000 to 275 thousand was miniscule and after that, there was maybe a slight tonal difference from one instrument to the other, but not a difference in quality.
@@shannamcmellon572 that depends on the model of the piano. Not unless it's a concert grand piano, and the seller really wants to get rid of it to the point of selling it for 2K which in most cases highly unlikely. A grand piano still feels different to play than an upright piano. Also for those curious I would like to add that Vinheteiro might have gotten the labels for the Bechstein Concert8 and Hoffmann T161 mixed up because the Bechstein Concert8 is an upright piano🎹🎶
Knew it was Chopin Just didn't know the tune. He like all the other composers has a very distinct style. My grand parents lived on Chopin St in Detroit. They pronounced it Cho-pin. I assume that is the traditional way to pronounce his name in Polish.
As a guitar player I can say from experience, and in my opinion, the quality of the strings and the expertise of the person‘setting up’ the piano can make a HUGE impact on the sound the instrument makes. 🤔☝️😆♥️🇬🇧🙏🌈
I am a retired music teacher but used to show my music students many of your videos! I like your new way of editing where when switching pianos, the song continues, instead of starting it over each time! I missed you and will resubscribe just because of all the good memories! You are amazing!
Agree. The “guts” are basically the same. That said, to me size matters and nothing smaller compares to the sound and action response of a concert grand in any brand.
@@elcidcampeador7400 exactlly. Also for those wonderig the labels for the W Hoffmann T161 and C Bechstein Concert8 are mixed up because the C Bechstein Concert8 is an upright piano🎹🎶
It may seem some sound a bit fuller and some sound somewhat brighter, but the differences are minute from what you can tell out of a youtube video which for sure does not use the most audiophile coded for audio compression (it usually simply does not have to). Assuming more or less ide tical methods of recording, being left or right of a grand piano due to the open lid makes a difference. But then they are in different rooms with different characteristics and reflections, and most of all, they are made of different materials, wood, resin, steel. So there have to be at least very fine differences. If most of us are able to tell those apart? Nah, don't think so.
I ‘listen’ to pianos. The looks of many of the expensive ones do nothing for me other than make me cringe. I would be much more impressed with the gold leafed one if that were the just wood finished to that color with the grain still visible, I think.
The 50$ one and the 700$ one sound like saloon pianos you hear in the movies, I think both have a charming nostalgic sound to them... I can also tell the difference when you play the expensive ones, but somehow i still prefer the two aforementioned. Maybe it reminds me of days at my great aunt's place or some other wholesome times. Thank you for sharing this video, it was a delight to hear you play.
They sound like a cheap Saloon piano because they're out of tune. I said elsewhere that even a $200,000 grand piano Out Of Tune is going to sound cheap
As a piano technician of 35 years I've always favoured the Steinway D, it's a hard piano to beat and generally perform well, they are the piano workhorse that's proven itself for over a century and a half.
I liked the $50 upright and the next one up, the best. I was a piano technician apprentice for the premier piano technician in the U.S. in the 70's-80's. He was flown all over the country to voice (not a tuner but worked with them) symphony pianos. In the studio in Phoenix, we restored all kinds of wonderful old pianos, uprights and grands alike, and my boss was already warning about the use of teflon bushings and other non-organic materials in modern brands, against how the pianos were originally made and how they needed to be restored using the same organic materials. Wool felts and hammers, felt bushings, animal glues, even ivory keys were hard to find from used sources at that early time. To me, all the really expensive grands sounded very bright and harsh, might have been in part the show room acoustics, but I'd rather have and hear the richer tone of the organic older instrument. Thank you so much for your excellent video and the illustration that reminded me of my early training.
yeah man, I liked the first two the best myself. They actually had a vintage sound, and not because they were out of tune. They were just interesting sounding...had an old sound.
I don't know much about pianos but I agree with you, instruments back in the day were made with real natural materials and that must have something to do with how they sound. I also prefer the 50$ and 700$ ones! They sound like the pianos our great aunts and grandma's had. A nostalgic sound that carries something beyond what an expensive modern one can render. I also noticed that these two aforementioned were upright pianos, since I don't know much about the subject,.maybe that's why they sound different?
*Timestamps:* 0:00 _1956 Haunted Piano,_ *$1* 0:03 _66-Key Small Piano,_ *$50,* Equivalent to Taxi Ride 0:16 _1915 Barthol & Berlin,_ *$700,* Equivalent to an Iphone 13 0:31 _New W. Hoffmann T161,_ *$46,998,* Equivalent to a New Grand Cherokee L 0:59 _New C. Bechstein Concert 8 "Intarsia",_ *$99,998,* Equivalent to a LG Rollable Smart TV 1:15 _2020 Fazioli F183 in California Walnut,_ *$275,000,* Equivalent to a Shipwrecked 1907 Heidsieck Wine 1:45 _2021 The Cloud Fazioli,_ *$355,000,* Equivalent to 12,5 Bitcoins 2:26 _2011 The Origami Fazioli,_ *$375,000,* Equivalent to a House in a good district 2:50 _2020 The Floating Fazioli,_ *$700,000,* Equivalent to 700 Nelore Cattle 3:20 _2017 The Butterfly Fazioli,_ *$1,200,000,* Equivalent to a R66 Helicopter 4:10 _2018 The Kengo Kuma Fazioli,_ *$1,500,000,* Equivalent to 23kg of gold 5:00 _2013 The 24k Gold Leaf Fazioli F228,_ *$3,000,000,* Equivalent to a 4ha Island in Brazil P.S. As a Chopin enthusiast, your playing made my day, Vinheteiro
While I enjoy looking at a gold ring, or a nicely made gold bracelet, I wasn’t real fond of the 24K gold piano. My favorite was the beautifully crafted California Walnut piano. Thank you for listing all of these amazing pianos and the details to go with them.
@@Lord_Vinheteiro pretty sure Beethoven had better tone perception about the music playing inside his head, then most of us would have while looking at an EQ Spectrum
I remember I got to play a Bosendorfer at a piano gallery once. The shop owner was like "Do you want to play a really expensive piano? It's like sitting in the seat of a Lamborghini." I said "Sure" and sat down at the keys. I was so nervous to play something so expensive that I ended up playing "Chopsticks" and doing improv on top of it. lol It was still an amazing experience.
le Bösendorfer grand queue Impérial . . LA ROLLS'ROYCE des pianos ! j'ai eu la chance d'y donner à 2 reprises des concerts en soliste ... inoubliable ... la première fois, j'étais toute jeune , le Saint Instrument était cocooné dans une église , j'ai très rapidement compris qu'il fallait dompter la (sublime et superbe ) bête : j'ai obtenu l'autorisation d'y passer la nuit ( l'on m'a " enfermée" dans l'église ), j'y ai passé 10 inoubliables heures , avec un résultat idyllique . C'est le piano de mes rêves ... Mais les tirages de Loto boudent mes mises .. Cette "marque "de piano a la particularité de multiplier toutes vos intentions pianistiques /poétiques /avouées/secrètes etc ... ...En bien comme en mal ! Pour les pianistes qui ont un jeu un peu dur , ils n'ont plus qu'à partir en courant ... le son "un peu dur " devient du mauvais béton inécoutable. et ainsi de suite . Bon, c'est pas tout ça , mais QUI M'OFFRE UN BÖSENDORFER ? (grand queue Impérial , de préférence ...)
99% of the audible difference in sound is the difference in the sound of the rooms in which these instruments are installed. For a correct comparison, recording must be done in the same acoustic environment.
Such a waste to see expensive pianos in random places, its like a supercar that was only ever riden to go in a trailer, to sit in some collector's basement.
I agree. Even the very same instrument in the middle of the room and in the corner of the room sounds different. Just try to move sound speakers further from the walls and you will hear the difference if you want to be sure. The room and placing does matter.
For me the biggest jump in quality was when he moved up to the Hoffmann upright. I have had one of these for over twenty years and it has moved continents with me. It’s such a lovely instrument. Such great color, cantabile and the ability to voice different lines with ease. I never felt I was missing out on not having a grand.
No one is going to argue that Faziolis don't have a beautiful tone, but the amazing thing is that Paolo Fazioli and his company manage to do whatever the client wants (even build pianos out of bizarre casing materials) and still retain that magnificent sound and key action, which is unlike any other piano that's been built. Italian craftsmanship at its finest. I think you could commission Fazioli to put a piano in a dumpster and expect the same level of sound quality and key feel, and that's why they start at almost $300,000.
The metal piano at 2:53 sounded really harsh and unappealing, even though it looked cool in a brutalist sort of way. I respect Fazioli's craftsmanship, their concert grands are among the best in business on the highest level with the best of Bösendorfers and Steinways, but the metal piano is just no. I understand that at that point it's a work of art rather than an instrument, but honestly they shouldn't have agreed to do that for any money if they were to put their name on it. It's not a good representation of their brand in terms of sound. lol
I agree for the most part. These are great artwork pieces, but I did think that the Flying Fazoli had an interesting variation in sound. What caught my attention was the last piano, the Gold Leaf, interestingly had beautiful reverb and echo. Whether this was the room it was located in, or something about the make of the piano itself, it has a wonderful sound. Personally, I'd say the improvement isn't worth the cost if it's because of the gold plating though...
@@RKumono There's a roughly zero percent chance the gold plating had anything to do with the way the instrument sounds. Gold leaf is incredibly thin (to the extent that the total amount of gold on that piano most likely is just a few grams), and also very soft, so would not be very likely to interact with the sound in any meaningful way.
мне показалось, что более старые фортепьяно в деревянном дизайне звучали лучше, в последних моделях с дизайнерскими наворотами звуки были дребезгом или мой телефон так воспроизводит
@@pavelcrocus574😂 - Ваш Паваротти - картавый и в ноты не пропадет. - С чего ты взял? - Да мне Мойша вчера по телефону напел. Ну, ты нашел, как слушать различия в звучании разных пианин. Ты хотя бы средние наушники одел, что ли...
@@pavelcrocus574самое последнее отричалось сильнее чем пианино в середине видео. Если два экземпляра после 100к можно отличить, уже далее - отличий не уловил. Конечно с телефона слушал и такое по-хорошему следует в наушниках оценивать,
The '21 Cloud reminds me of the guys I used to see walking down the street wearing expensive shoplifted clothing with the price tags still attached to them.
I love these videos! I am not a professional musician, so the only thing I can say is after a certain point in the prices they seemed very similar. Of course, this is from my iPhone. I imagine that in person you would get a better feel. And those custom pianos I image are priced for the customization not just the parts that make it sound good.
And it’s on youtube too. I believe they manipulate sound quality. The best recordings are made through analog methods. Even the best digital audio recorders won’t ever match analog. And youtube is far from the best.
Yeah, TH-cam is compressing both the video and the sound, which means a lot of quality is lost between the playing, the recording media and then uploading it.
@@caelestigladii no offense, but that is silly. Anything one might find preferable about analog gear (outside of placebo effect), has everything to do with the gear used…not the source recorded. Some analog gear sounds like trash. Some sounds subjectively good because of the way it literally distorts the recording - that’s right, analog character comes from harmonic distortion, not fidelity. Further, what do you even mean by “analog”? Any and every mic used is going to be “analog” on the front end, and most likely the back. Preamp, maybe or maybe not. But then what…are you suggesting that if they’d recorded to tape it would be more transparent? Lol. No. Bottom line, all other things being equal, a well done digital recording at adequate bit/sample rate is going to represent the source as it actually is better than any vague, nondescript allusion to an “analog” signal chain. There’s finer details one could consider about a/d conversion, but all this hooplah folks regurgitate about analog universally being better is very uninformed. Some gear sounds great, just as some software processing sounds great. But that has nothing to do with accuracy and fidelity of raw recordings. Peace.
@@replacesoundboard true. But the fidelity lost with the audio I’d bet 99.9% of folks can’t hear, and it’s applied across all the pianos, so it’s a constant. Of far more significance is the mic and the room the instruments are in.
@@djhofer6187 One thing for certain is, no matter how hard I try to record my own upright, it always fails to be as magnificent as when I actually play it; although it partly has to do with my not knowing how to record properly.
Great video. I always look to play on really expensive pianos and you were able to play on all these many pianos with the same suit. Just amazing! Great Job!
I love the sound of that Bechstein 1:00 ❤️ Thank you for let us admire some of the most luxorious piano's in the world and play on them ! (Beautiful performance btw 👏🏻👏🏻) On the last piano I guess you was sweathing because you were afraid of broking a string 👀😅
For me, it's not so much the difference in sound, but rather the uniqueness of every piano itself. From the $1 to $3,000,000, they all have their own character and tone that don't just play the music but instead, produce a musical experience. They all give me joy!
Fazioli pianos are a complete waste of money ... No difference in sound between a 150K Steinway (Steinway actually sounds better) and this overpriced crap from Fazioli; the rest is just fluff and pointless aesthetics.
Vinheteiro developed a problem with his finger joints after training for many hours in the past. At the end of the video you can see him flexing his fingers to relieve the pain. Beautiful to see the talent mixed with your hard work!
"Primo", não me leve a mal, mas permita-me uma dica sobre uma coisa que não faz a menor diferença para os brasileiros, mas para os americanos é gravíssima: quando for escrever algo que americanos vão ler, evite o riso kkkk (mesmo com quatro k, e JAMAIS com três), é muito parecido e pode confundir-se com kkk, da Ku Klux Klan, muito mal vista e causa de escândalo para eles. Eles podem entender errado e pensar que você (e/ou, no caso, o Lorde Vinheteiro) pertence(m) a essa diabólica organização.
@@Lord_Vinheteiro é porque você não se atreveu a tocar música instrumental brasileira (in loco), aí verás o que é falta de reconhecimento e mérito no Brasil... A música clássica ainda tem muito mais valor no Brasil do que a nosso autêntico choro por exemplo.
I can definitely hear the difference in tone and timbre of each and have to say that the only two I was not fond of was what I later found out to be the resin piano and the steel(?) Piano, being vision impaired I tend to listen first and later watch.
The best quality piano, I have heard and played on, was a full size grand Steinway and Sons piano, with ivory keys. It was amazing. And I could here the difference in each piano. I really enjoyed your performance of Chopin’s Grand Valse Brilliant. Great Job🎉🎉🎉 And by far, the gold piano was my favorite. Keep up the great piano playing😄
OMG! The Flying Fazioli is awesome. I can actually hear a difference. Just subscribed. M.Mus. but so long ago I don't know anything about Fazioli and couldn't play my senior recital if my life depended on it. Thanks for making music fun.
A verdade é que não tem preço termos um musicista como você Vinheteiro representando nosso país. Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho. O melhor vídeo de todos pelo trabalho de reunir todos esses pianos.
The steel flying faz, the butterfly and that last one really stood out to me. Lot of nice pieces in there though. Mad props to vinheitero for this seamless and beautifully played presentation. It's really nice to hear him just sit down and play. Absolutely in his element.
It's eye-opening to see so many beautifully-designed pianos made from different materials. Though it's hard for me to draw a parallel comparison of their values with the hints provided. Great performance as always! Bravo!🎉
I can definitely hear the difference among the lower cost pianos. But the $100k-$1mil range become kinda blurred. I was however, very suprised that I loved the sound of the last piano. I think it's because you were playing the last part of the song which hits the lower notes where you can hear the full breath of the instrument.
It has a lot to do with the acoustic of the room. All the designer pianos were on hard floor, with hard walls and windows, whereas the last one benefited from wooden flooring, which is good.
I’m not a musician and I envy you your talent. My preferred instrument is the W Hoffmann T161 at a mere $47 000- it has a wonderfully rounded warmth to the sound and I immediately saw a candlelit ballroom filled with swirling dresses and tailcoats - also a joyous sound. Some of the high end stuff sounded so similar and was very brittle and harsh- not pleasant. As ever cost does not always reflect being classy and some instruments looked like expensive tat. A Really interesting film thanks.
By "Hoffmann T161" you mean the upright piano before the first Fazioli? That's the Bechstein Concert8. He got the labels mixed up with just those 2 pianos. Hoffmann is owned by Bechstein though🎹🎶
I got to play a Fazioli F278 a couple of weeks ago. I've played Yamaha, I've played Baldwin, I've played Steinway, I've played Bosendorfer...all of them paled in comparison to the Fazioli. It was the best piano I've ever played. Hands down. At about $250k it's more than I'll ever be able to afford, but I can go play this one anytime I want so I'll definitely be going to play it again!
Wow, that was so interesting. What has always amazed me most about your playing is that you do most of it from memory, often staring at the camera and doing it so brilliantly. That said, it's stunning to consider the market value of some of those pianos. Thanks for sharing this with us. :)
Характер звучания разный у всех инструментов, разница в деталях тоже есть. Первые 3 играют просто и без акцентов на деталях. Все остальные играют примерно одинаково с разным характером, причём не всегда более дорогое играет лучше. Последнее естественно играет идеально и с большой разницей от других.
да абсолютно идиотский тест звучания, окружение разное везде. В идеале их нужно тестировать в абсолютно идентичных условиях. Да и люди смотря это в ютубе, с ограничениями качества платформы не могут оценить адекватно
I realize that a professional musician would likely prefer the more expensive ones simply due to build quality and feel etc., but for me, an old guy with an ear for vinyl records and cassette tapes, the Barthol and Berlin takes the spot simply because it has a warmer, "older" sound to it. Like something you would have seen Scott Joplin playing ragtime on, or would have been in a movie theater accompanying silent films. Just the history behind it alone makes it worthy of the top spot to me. Would be awesome to know where it's been and who has played on it through the years.
As a matter of fact, I came across discussions where some pianists mentioned how much they preferred old pianos, restored or not, because the wood had had the time to mature over time, and carries the burden of history upon its shoulder. When you play it, what you hear is propagated through a soundboard that has lived through history. Of course, there's always something nice about clean and properly tuned new pianos. But an old one, untuned on top of it, tends to have a more distinct personality.
I am not a professional piano player, but a piano fanatic. When I see one, I have to play a few notes on it. To me the sound is all. And I can honestly say, I have only played on about 5 pianos in all this time which has touched my heart. My first choice is Steinway, by far. I have also played on a Bechstein which had the most beautiful tone. The irony is that my own piano is a real cheapy, but with an excellent sound till about 3 years ago when the baseboard started to bend. Cant afford to have it fixed though
Once you get around $300K, any differences in sound quality there might be become too slight for me to distinguish. Whatever I thought I heard might be different, I could just as easily chalk up to the difference in acoustics as to the pianos themselves. Tough to be sure when they are each in a different kind of acoustic environment. Although I guess the $3 million gold one did sound different enough to not just be acoustics, but presumably the gold making the difference. Not sure it was actually a better sound though, just a little bit different in a way that probably wasn't the acoustics. Several of them I expect the absurd price to be to the artsy nature of the frame rather than anything particularly special about the materials or mechanics of how it plays.
Nice of them to let you play them instead of locking them up and cordoning them off! Also interesting that the 'better' they become, the more digital they start to sound. 😁 I'll stick to my Yamaha CLP 745 in polished ebony, thanks... when I get it. Great video!
Nice to see you FINALLY voiced and regulated the Barthol & Berlin! Such a nice piano, a shame it had hammers harder than my calluses after playing a 12 string guitar for 8 hours straight!
Very nice video! In my opinion it is hard to really appreciate the differences when you listen to a recording, because it will always depend on the microphone you use to record, the ambient where the piano is located, the compression you choose to edit the recording, the chipset of your computer sound or mobile phone (the equalizer settings), the quality of your headphones or the speakers 🤭. Although you can hear the differences, at the end of the day the perception and acceptance will be different to each person. I think there are many models among them which sound fabulous.
The only one I didn't immediately like was the Flying Fazioli which is attached to the buliding. Sound with my speakers was jarring compared to the others.
Brilliant editing job, editor deserves a medal for those cuts. It gets hard to tell them apart after the 4th or 5th, except for 2. The floating box sounded terrible and the one that looked like it was made out of little matchsticks sounded great. Plus, now I know about shipwrecked wine and the worth of a bitcoin a year ago.
The Kengo Kuma Fazioli wins for me in terms of visual interest, but I preferred the sound of the more modest pianos, from the Hoffmann upright through the first Fazioli. Of course it's very hard to judge truly from a video like this because they are all recorded in different spaces and so on.
Hmmm yes and no; the expensive ones have far more clarity and detail, but the cheap standing ones are far more gentle to the ears, much more relaxed....
I don't think the cheaper pianos in this video truely represent older pianos because if you listen to Roberts pianos, and LivingPianos's recordings of older pianos they don't actually sound like this🎹🎶
Thank You for you and your crews hard work. So much fun to listen to. I really liked the sound of the last gold one! The type of metal makes a difference in brass instruments and obviously in pianos, too. Thanks again.
Chances are he mixed the text of the Hoffman and the Bechstein, because the model he mentioned for the Bechstein is an upright, and the model of the Hoffman is a grand.
For me the best sounding pianos are the F183 and the Cloud. Beyond that the price becomes more about aesthetics rather than sound. I have always loved the Fazioli pianos for their warmth over the more bright Steinway. However the Fazioli is a little out of my price range. 🤭
Excellent performance on any piano, sir!🎹👋👍👋. The Hoffman piano sound was night abd day after hearing the old and worn pianos. The Hoffman piano was our dad's gift to my brothers and i. Dad does not play any musical instrument but he has a keen ear to choosing best sounding piano in any price range. At least he was able to see a YT video of the gold Fazioli piano in Vancouver a week before he become ill and passed away in the hospital. 😂😢❤🎹🙏
To me the Fazioli Cloud had the warmest tone of all, though the Fabiola Gold Leaf also sounded very good. Many pianos sounded good but these two sounded the best to me.
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In my opinion, somewhere after the piano for $275 thousand, the difference in sound became less and less significant. I even liked the sound of the mentioned piano more than the more expensive variants. I think the cost is more justified by the design, the material of the case, the limitations, the brand and the status of the architect. And the filling is not much different
That's what I thought as well. I don't think a golden piano necessarily sounds better than a white one...
I thought the same thing as well. If a piano is tuned correctly and the pianist is skilled, a 2k piano can sound just as good as a 700k piano.
Same for me. 100,000 to 275 thousand was miniscule and after that, there was maybe a slight tonal difference from one instrument to the other, but not a difference in quality.
Yes, you are right. At that point, it becomes more of a sculpture rather than just a musical instrument
@@shannamcmellon572 that depends on the model of the piano. Not unless it's a concert grand piano, and the seller really wants to get rid of it to the point of selling it for 2K which in most cases highly unlikely. A grand piano still feels different to play than an upright piano.
Also for those curious I would like to add that Vinheteiro might have gotten the labels for the Bechstein Concert8 and Hoffmann T161 mixed up because the Bechstein Concert8 is an upright piano🎹🎶
For those wondering about the piece Lordão is playing, it's Frédéric Chopin's "Grande Valse brillante" in E Flat Major, Op. 18 (1831-33) 👍
For me, a dumb illiterate listener, it sounds confusing sometimes, as if jerry was running from tom over it.
@@LeoVS44 Yep, agreed. The use of classical music in Tom & Jerry cartoons was a very clever move from Hanna-Barbera in those days.
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Knew it was Chopin Just didn't know the tune. He like all the other composers has a very distinct style. My grand parents lived on Chopin St in Detroit. They pronounced it Cho-pin. I assume that is the traditional way to pronounce his name in Polish.
@@skildude And in French as well!! 👍
Hotel staff in Vancouver: There's some foreign guy that keeps playing the same song on every piano in town.
It was a necessary evil.
and it was hillarious. lol. beautiful instruments.
Hotel Coworker: Yeah... but he's really good at it.
At least they’re getting used!!😂😂😂
Song?????
As a guitar player I can say from experience, and in my opinion, the quality of the strings and the expertise of the person‘setting up’ the piano can make a HUGE impact on the sound the instrument makes. 🤔☝️😆♥️🇬🇧🙏🌈
I am a retired music teacher but used to show my music students many of your videos! I like your new way of editing where when switching pianos, the song continues, instead of starting it over each time! I missed you and will resubscribe just because of all the good memories! You are amazing!
What instruments did you teach
i cant even tell the end of the song....or the the beginning im ashamed of thyself
@@Nathimgoziit’s not a song. It’s a piece.
It's hard to tell a difference after the 50k-100k price range. I think the more expensive ones are more art pieces than instruments.
Agree. The “guts” are basically the same. That said, to me size matters and nothing smaller compares to the sound and action response of a concert grand in any brand.
@@elcidcampeador7400 exactlly.
Also for those wonderig the labels for the W Hoffmann T161 and C Bechstein Concert8 are mixed up because the C Bechstein Concert8 is an upright piano🎹🎶
It may seem some sound a bit fuller and some sound somewhat brighter, but the differences are minute from what you can tell out of a youtube video which for sure does not use the most audiophile coded for audio compression (it usually simply does not have to).
Assuming more or less ide tical methods of recording, being left or right of a grand piano due to the open lid makes a difference. But then they are in different rooms with different characteristics and reflections, and most of all, they are made of different materials, wood, resin, steel. So there have to be at least very fine differences. If most of us are able to tell those apart? Nah, don't think so.
Some of the expensive ones sounded like the had less sustain so the notes sounded short. Maybe the area they where contained made a difference.
I ‘listen’ to pianos. The looks of many of the expensive ones do nothing for me other than make me cringe. I would be much more impressed with the gold leafed one if that were the just wood finished to that color with the grain still visible, I think.
The 50$ one and the 700$ one sound like saloon pianos you hear in the movies, I think both have a charming nostalgic sound to them... I can also tell the difference when you play the expensive ones, but somehow i still prefer the two aforementioned. Maybe it reminds me of days at my great aunt's place or some other wholesome times. Thank you for sharing this video, it was a delight to hear you play.
It's the "faults" that give them their unique character. Perfect is all the same.
Agreed🎹🤠👍🏼
I'm guessing they're slightly out of tune .. gives them more "character"!
If you're listening to the saloon pianos, if you just keep drinking, they start to sound great.
They sound like a cheap Saloon piano because they're out of tune. I said elsewhere that even a $200,000 grand piano Out Of Tune is going to sound cheap
He skipped from $700 to $46,998!!!
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that escalated quickly
Ikr
Even with pianos middle class is gone
I'm more worried with Vancouvers obsession with expensive Fazioli's
Hey Siri, where does the best Fazioli salesman in the world live?
Blame Trudeau
@@zx7-rr486 lol
Laundering???? Someone in BC is doing shady business with Fazioli and masks money transfers with expensive pianos?
@@zx7-rr486can I blame my poor piano skills on him, too?
As a piano technician of 35 years I've always favoured the Steinway D, it's a hard piano to beat and generally perform well, they are the piano workhorse that's proven itself for over a century and a half.
Nothing beats the Steinway model D, all these pianos shown keep going up in price based on its design. They all sound awful
My father is a piano tuner and he swears by the Steinway D.
Yup@@kaseywahl
"That's a priceless Steinway." - Mrs. Leverlilly
"Not any more." - Inspector Clouseau
Classic!!!!!
@@excavatoree
I liked the $50 upright and the next one up, the best. I was a piano technician apprentice for the premier piano technician in the U.S. in the 70's-80's. He was flown all over the country to voice (not a tuner but worked with them) symphony pianos. In the studio in Phoenix, we restored all kinds of wonderful old pianos, uprights and grands alike, and my boss was already warning about the use of teflon bushings and other non-organic materials in modern brands, against how the pianos were originally made and how they needed to be restored using the same organic materials. Wool felts and hammers, felt bushings, animal glues, even ivory keys were hard to find from used sources at that early time. To me, all the really expensive grands sounded very bright and harsh, might have been in part the show room acoustics, but I'd rather have and hear the richer tone of the organic older instrument. Thank you so much for your excellent video and the illustration that reminded me of my early training.
yeah man, I liked the first two the best myself. They actually had a vintage sound, and not because they were out of tune. They were just interesting sounding...had an old sound.
О времена...
They make think of a western saloon piano.
I don't know much about pianos but I agree with you, instruments back in the day were made with real natural materials and that must have something to do with how they sound. I also prefer the 50$ and 700$ ones! They sound like the pianos our great aunts and grandma's had. A nostalgic sound that carries something beyond what an expensive modern one can render. I also noticed that these two aforementioned were upright pianos, since I don't know much about the subject,.maybe that's why they sound different?
New York Steinways already abandoned the use of teflon in their actions from what I know🎹🎶
Your son is so fortunate to have a father like you.
Today I learned that Vancouver has lots of crazy-ass pianos.
And all from Fazioli, which is actually an Italian brand!
vancouver it's one of the world's largest money laundering city...
*Timestamps:*
0:00 _1956 Haunted Piano,_ *$1*
0:03 _66-Key Small Piano,_ *$50,* Equivalent to Taxi Ride
0:16 _1915 Barthol & Berlin,_ *$700,* Equivalent to an Iphone 13
0:31 _New W. Hoffmann T161,_ *$46,998,* Equivalent to a New Grand Cherokee L
0:59 _New C. Bechstein Concert 8 "Intarsia",_ *$99,998,* Equivalent to a LG Rollable Smart TV
1:15 _2020 Fazioli F183 in California Walnut,_ *$275,000,* Equivalent to a Shipwrecked 1907 Heidsieck Wine
1:45 _2021 The Cloud Fazioli,_ *$355,000,* Equivalent to 12,5 Bitcoins
2:26 _2011 The Origami Fazioli,_ *$375,000,* Equivalent to a House in a good district
2:50 _2020 The Floating Fazioli,_ *$700,000,* Equivalent to 700 Nelore Cattle
3:20 _2017 The Butterfly Fazioli,_ *$1,200,000,* Equivalent to a R66 Helicopter
4:10 _2018 The Kengo Kuma Fazioli,_ *$1,500,000,* Equivalent to 23kg of gold
5:00 _2013 The 24k Gold Leaf Fazioli F228,_ *$3,000,000,* Equivalent to a 4ha Island in Brazil
P.S. As a Chopin enthusiast, your playing made my day, Vinheteiro
I think the last one is "4ha" or 4 hectares
While I enjoy looking at a gold ring, or a nicely made gold bracelet, I wasn’t real fond of the 24K gold piano. My favorite was the beautifully crafted California Walnut piano.
Thank you for listing all of these amazing pianos and the details to go with them.
You had me at Jeep Grand Cherokee L😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🎹🎶
I'd get a grand piano over a grand cherokee l anyday🎹🎶
The smart TV and the whine were silly. Who wants to have that?
This man casually returned after a month just to ask if we can hear the difference, respect
Can you hear the difference?
@@Lord_Vinheteiro NO I'M DEAF PLEASE SEND HELP
@@kellymccarthy7109 Beeethoven was deaf too. And he could hear everything!
Took a month to travel the world to play all those pianos, respect
@@Lord_Vinheteiro pretty sure Beethoven had better tone perception about the music playing inside his head, then most of us would have while looking at an EQ Spectrum
I loved the sound of the Butterfly Piano. The notes just were so clear and sparkly.
The Hoffman T161 upright really has spectacular tone for a piano with such a modest footprint. Loved hearing it.
Yes it was really "warm" sounding, I liked it too.
I called it the best as well. The tone is so rich and warm. A lovely piano. The runner up for me was the Barthol and Berlin.
Ok I think he got the labels mixed up because the Hoffmann T161 is a grand piano. The upright piano you are liking is a C Bechstein Concert8🎹🎶
That one actually had the most pleasing sound to my ears
@@Dwendele the Hoffmann T161 is the grand piano that came before the upright. The upright before the first Fazioli is the Bechstein Concert8🎹🎶
The most shocking thing was learning that there is a TV that costs 100k
OLED + Gimmick + "Signature" in a nutshell
Wait till you learn about MicroLED that are currently "Available"
I immediately googled it 😂
Ya and it's B&W
@@hotsickle No, it was an LG - but yeah, B&W probably make one for more money with their case on it and LG internals.
😂
Welcome to my city of Vancouver! Its an honor to have such a talented pianist amongst us!
Thank you! I loved the city!
Immer wieder gerne!
Chopin - Grande Valse Brillante Op.18 (Waltz in E flat major)
A masterpiece by Chopin, as he usually made back when he lived his dynamic yet short life.
I remember I got to play a Bosendorfer at a piano gallery once. The shop owner was like "Do you want to play a really expensive piano? It's like sitting in the seat of a Lamborghini." I said "Sure" and sat down at the keys. I was so nervous to play something so expensive that I ended up playing "Chopsticks" and doing improv on top of it. lol It was still an amazing experience.
le Bösendorfer grand queue Impérial . .
LA ROLLS'ROYCE des pianos !
j'ai eu la chance d'y donner à 2 reprises des concerts en soliste ...
inoubliable ...
la première fois, j'étais toute jeune , le Saint Instrument était cocooné dans une église , j'ai très rapidement compris qu'il fallait dompter la (sublime et superbe ) bête : j'ai obtenu l'autorisation d'y passer la nuit ( l'on m'a " enfermée" dans l'église ), j'y ai passé 10 inoubliables heures , avec un résultat idyllique .
C'est le piano de mes rêves ...
Mais les tirages de Loto boudent mes mises ..
Cette "marque "de piano a la particularité de multiplier toutes vos intentions pianistiques /poétiques /avouées/secrètes etc ...
...En bien comme en mal !
Pour les pianistes qui ont un jeu un peu dur , ils n'ont plus qu'à partir en courant ...
le son "un peu dur " devient du mauvais béton inécoutable.
et ainsi de suite .
Bon, c'est pas tout ça , mais QUI M'OFFRE UN BÖSENDORFER ? (grand queue Impérial , de préférence ...)
99% of the audible difference in sound is the difference in the sound of the rooms in which these instruments are installed. For a correct comparison, recording must be done in the same acoustic environment.
Such a waste to see expensive pianos in random places, its like a supercar that was only ever riden to go in a trailer, to sit in some collector's basement.
^This
To me 1:00 and 1:17 sounded the best
I agree. Even the very same instrument in the middle of the room and in the corner of the room sounds different.
Just try to move sound speakers further from the walls and you will hear the difference if you want to be sure. The room and placing does matter.
@@c0nct3d They probably get used a lot in these hotels
For me the biggest jump in quality was when he moved up to the Hoffmann upright. I have had one of these for over twenty years and it has moved continents with me. It’s such a lovely instrument. Such great color, cantabile and the ability to voice different lines with ease. I never felt I was missing out on not having a grand.
He got the labels for the Hoffmann T161 and Bechstein Concert8 mixed up🎹🎶
I've been wondering who moved my continent! Now I know you and your piano are responsible. 😉
@@conwaytwt I see what you did there. Nice
Отличная подборка для кругозора,благодарю ,да и музыка ,в конце хотелось аплодировать...Слух у меня таки есть,слишком по-разному было звучание😂
I'd buy a ticket to hear this guy play on a $2 piano.
Me too
Really? Ugh.
I hope you enjoyed Vancouver! The differences are somewhat muted by the speaker on my phone but the artistry comes through just fine 😍
Absolutely not.
@ΙΧΘΥΣ - Discepoli di Gesù 🔥 bot
@ΙΧΘΥΣ - Discepoli di Gesù 🔥 ah well I retract my previous statement about you being a bot
No one is going to argue that Faziolis don't have a beautiful tone, but the amazing thing is that Paolo Fazioli and his company manage to do whatever the client wants (even build pianos out of bizarre casing materials) and still retain that magnificent sound and key action, which is unlike any other piano that's been built. Italian craftsmanship at its finest. I think you could commission Fazioli to put a piano in a dumpster and expect the same level of sound quality and key feel, and that's why they start at almost $300,000.
The metal piano at 2:53 sounded really harsh and unappealing, even though it looked cool in a brutalist sort of way. I respect Fazioli's craftsmanship, their concert grands are among the best in business on the highest level with the best of Bösendorfers and Steinways, but the metal piano is just no. I understand that at that point it's a work of art rather than an instrument, but honestly they shouldn't have agreed to do that for any money if they were to put their name on it. It's not a good representation of their brand in terms of sound. lol
@@kosmosycheyes, it was harsh to my ears too.
@@kosmosyche TOTALLY agree!
I agree for the most part. These are great artwork pieces, but I did think that the Flying Fazoli had an interesting variation in sound. What caught my attention was the last piano, the Gold Leaf, interestingly had beautiful reverb and echo. Whether this was the room it was located in, or something about the make of the piano itself, it has a wonderful sound. Personally, I'd say the improvement isn't worth the cost if it's because of the gold plating though...
@@RKumono There's a roughly zero percent chance the gold plating had anything to do with the way the instrument sounds. Gold leaf is incredibly thin (to the extent that the total amount of gold on that piano most likely is just a few grams), and also very soft, so would not be very likely to interact with the sound in any meaningful way.
FROM THE TAXI TO THE PHONE TO THE CAR TO THE LG🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
The piano differences are mostly found if they are played with love and with good hands :) Loved the video
По ощущениям: цена свыше 100000$ уходит уже в дизайн и роскошь. Разница есть, но небольшая и, вероятно, зависит скорее от геометрии и настройки.
мне показалось, что более старые фортепьяно в деревянном дизайне звучали лучше, в последних моделях с дизайнерскими наворотами звуки были дребезгом или мой телефон так воспроизводит
@@pavelcrocus574😂
- Ваш Паваротти - картавый и в ноты не пропадет.
- С чего ты взял?
- Да мне Мойша вчера по телефону напел.
Ну, ты нашел, как слушать различия в звучании разных пианин. Ты хотя бы средние наушники одел, что ли...
@@pavelcrocus574самое последнее отричалось сильнее чем пианино в середине видео. Если два экземпляра после 100к можно отличить, уже далее - отличий не уловил. Конечно с телефона слушал и такое по-хорошему следует в наушниках оценивать,
Geometry
Да, у самых дорогих звук такой, как будто они пьяные
1:47 For a second I thought it was a piano covered in Post-it notes. 😂😂
The '21 Cloud reminds me of the guys I used to see walking down the street wearing expensive shoplifted clothing with the price tags still attached to them.
Bravo!! Vinheteiro Por esos pianos y tu calidad de músico clásico. Excelente video, super brillante. 👍👍👍👏👏👏
The fact that he traveled who knows how far away from his city to play these pianos for us is significant ❤❤❤ keep it up vinheteiro
It was all in Vancouver bro lmao
@@Ejai1 Bruh
@@Ejai1That sounds like a Finnish last name! I’m A Finn so I know! Give me a Steinway any day!
I love these videos! I am not a professional musician, so the only thing I can say is after a certain point in the prices they seemed very similar. Of course, this is from my iPhone. I imagine that in person you would get a better feel. And those custom pianos I image are priced for the customization not just the parts that make it sound good.
And it’s on youtube too. I believe they manipulate sound quality.
The best recordings are made through analog methods. Even the best digital audio recorders won’t ever match analog. And youtube is far from the best.
Yeah, TH-cam is compressing both the video and the sound, which means a lot of quality is lost between the playing, the recording media and then uploading it.
@@caelestigladii no offense, but that is silly. Anything one might find preferable about analog gear (outside of placebo effect), has everything to do with the gear used…not the source recorded. Some analog gear sounds like trash. Some sounds subjectively good because of the way it literally distorts the recording - that’s right, analog character comes from harmonic distortion, not fidelity. Further, what do you even mean by “analog”? Any and every mic used is going to be “analog” on the front end, and most likely the back. Preamp, maybe or maybe not. But then what…are you suggesting that if they’d recorded to tape it would be more transparent? Lol. No. Bottom line, all other things being equal, a well done digital recording at adequate bit/sample rate is going to represent the source as it actually is better than any vague, nondescript allusion to an “analog” signal chain. There’s finer details one could consider about a/d conversion, but all this hooplah folks regurgitate about analog universally being better is very uninformed. Some gear sounds great, just as some software processing sounds great. But that has nothing to do with accuracy and fidelity of raw recordings. Peace.
@@replacesoundboard true. But the fidelity lost with the audio I’d bet 99.9% of folks can’t hear, and it’s applied across all the pianos, so it’s a constant. Of far more significance is the mic and the room the instruments are in.
@@djhofer6187 One thing for certain is, no matter how hard I try to record my own upright, it always fails to be as magnificent as when I actually play it; although it partly has to do with my not knowing how to record properly.
I can make a million-dollar piano sound like a plastic piano. this is my specialty😂
jajaja
Great video. I always look to play on really expensive pianos and you were able to play on all these many pianos with the same suit. Just amazing! Great Job!
I love the sound of that Bechstein 1:00 ❤️
Thank you for let us admire some of the most luxorious piano's in the world and play on them !
(Beautiful performance btw 👏🏻👏🏻)
On the last piano I guess you was sweathing because you were afraid of broking a string 👀😅
Yeah it's really great I wouldn't even touch it when I see the price 😅
Truly and utterly Grand!!! Love them all from the haunted to the priciest! 😄
For me, it's not so much the difference in sound, but rather the uniqueness of every piano itself. From the $1 to $3,000,000, they all have their own character and tone that don't just play the music but instead, produce a musical experience. They all give me joy!
...to watch.
Poetry seeps from your hand❤
Fazioli pianos are a complete waste of money ... No difference in sound between a 150K Steinway (Steinway actually sounds better) and this overpriced crap from Fazioli; the rest is just fluff and pointless aesthetics.
Well, uniqueness and quality don't always go hand in hand
The Fazioli ones don't offer any "musical experience" if you don't see them. They're just ostentatious tools...
🎹🎹Thanks for the comparison. I live in Vancouver but didn't know we had so many wonderful (and expensive) instruments here. Nicely done!
When the 3rd piano was the price of a Jeep i knew I was in going into a insane video
These comparisons are definitely helping me understand their worth lol
My piano is the value of a pizza slice
@@cdevidal I have many with the value of a pizza slice.
@@Lord_Vinheteiro can i buy one?
@@Lord_Vinheteiro What do you think of "Fritz Dobbert" piano
@@Lampshade8712 for this conversation i whould pay my part of pizza for you.
Vinheteiro developed a problem with his finger joints after training for many hours in the past. At the end of the video you can see him flexing his fingers to relieve the pain. Beautiful to see the talent mixed with your hard work!
It's great to see foreigners valuing the talent of vinheteiro, As a Brazilian, I feel proud
Enquanto artistas nacionais buscam uma carreira internacional, o Lordão faz sucesso na gringa e busca o reconhecimento nacional rsrsrsrs mito
No Brasil infelizmente ninguém gosta de música clássica.
Néh não!! Mas é difícil trazer uma boa cultura musical para país deplorável.
"Primo", não me leve a mal, mas permita-me uma dica sobre uma coisa que não faz a menor diferença para os brasileiros, mas para os americanos é gravíssima: quando for escrever algo que americanos vão ler, evite o riso kkkk (mesmo com quatro k, e JAMAIS com três), é muito parecido e pode confundir-se com kkk, da Ku Klux Klan, muito mal vista e causa de escândalo para eles. Eles podem entender errado e pensar que você (e/ou, no caso, o Lorde Vinheteiro) pertence(m) a essa diabólica organização.
@@Lord_Vinheteiro é porque você não se atreveu a tocar música instrumental brasileira (in loco), aí verás o que é falta de reconhecimento e mérito no Brasil... A música clássica ainda tem muito mais valor no Brasil do que a nosso autêntico choro por exemplo.
Kkkkkk o Lorde faz o caminho contrário
They all sound equally as beautiful to me because you are playing them. ❤️🙏🏻
That's exactly what I want to see Vinheteiro. Best video on your channel
Thank you!
I can definitely hear the difference in tone and timbre of each and have to say that the only two I was not fond of was what I later found out to be the resin piano and the steel(?) Piano, being vision impaired I tend to listen first and later watch.
The best quality piano, I have heard and played on, was a full size grand Steinway and Sons piano, with ivory keys. It was amazing. And I could here the difference in each piano. I really enjoyed your performance of Chopin’s Grand Valse Brilliant. Great Job🎉🎉🎉 And by far, the gold piano was my favorite. Keep up the great piano playing😄
Really high end Steinways almost sounds too good to my ears. Brilliant pianos of course, but I dunno I prefer a bit of character.
OMG! The Flying Fazioli is awesome.
I can actually hear a difference.
Just subscribed.
M.Mus. but so long ago I don't know anything about Fazioli and couldn't play my senior recital if my life depended on it.
Thanks for making music fun.
I can't believe he actually bought all those pianos just for this video! Thanks, Vinheteiro!
He's fine... bunged them on ebay afterwards...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
he didn't, he just go to those places where are located
A verdade é que não tem preço termos um musicista como você Vinheteiro representando nosso país. Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho. O melhor vídeo de todos pelo trabalho de reunir todos esses pianos.
Por que se parece com um estrangeiro?? @@patricia78788
How fun that you got an opportunity to play all those pianos! I love watching/hearing you play.
Grew up with a upright & took lessons & a fun experience & eventually switched to classical guitar. Enjoy your videos & talent, thanks!
The steel flying faz, the butterfly and that last one really stood out to me. Lot of nice pieces in there though.
Mad props to vinheitero for this seamless and beautifully played presentation.
It's really nice to hear him just sit down and play. Absolutely in his element.
My favorite is the Flying Fazioli, the one made of steel, weighing 6 tons and mounted to the building. I really liked the sound of that piano.
I personally enjoyed the Egyptian pyramid piano myself
Building is part of piano soundboard maybe :D
It's eye-opening to see so many beautifully-designed pianos made from different materials. Though it's hard for me to draw a parallel comparison of their values with the hints provided. Great performance as always! Bravo!🎉
Those are some lovely bits of craftsmanship. That they even let you near them let alone play them is amazing.
The fact some very beautiful and expensive pianos are here in Canada--and he travelled here to play them--is priceless. Thank you.
I can definitely hear the difference among the lower cost pianos. But the $100k-$1mil range become kinda blurred. I was however, very suprised that I loved the sound of the last piano. I think it's because you were playing the last part of the song which hits the lower notes where you can hear the full breath of the instrument.
And I can just imagine how much better that part would sound on a Bosendorfer Imperial with the extra bass notes!
It has a lot to do with the acoustic of the room. All the designer pianos were on hard floor, with hard walls and windows, whereas the last one benefited from wooden flooring, which is good.
It may also depend on acoustics of the building.
Cheap to Expensive
Breaking iron sound to gorgeous wooden sound
Unclear to clear
Noisy to fabulous
Thank you for this
I’m not a musician and I envy you your talent. My preferred instrument is the W Hoffmann T161 at a mere $47 000- it has a wonderfully rounded warmth to the sound and I immediately saw a candlelit ballroom filled with swirling dresses and tailcoats - also a joyous sound. Some of the high end stuff sounded so similar and was very brittle and harsh- not pleasant. As ever cost does not always reflect being classy and some instruments looked like expensive tat. A Really interesting film thanks.
By "Hoffmann T161" you mean the upright piano before the first Fazioli? That's the Bechstein Concert8. He got the labels mixed up with just those 2 pianos. Hoffmann is owned by Bechstein though🎹🎶
I got to play a Fazioli F278 a couple of weeks ago. I've played Yamaha, I've played Baldwin, I've played Steinway, I've played Bosendorfer...all of them paled in comparison to the Fazioli. It was the best piano I've ever played. Hands down. At about $250k it's more than I'll ever be able to afford, but I can go play this one anytime I want so I'll definitely be going to play it again!
I’ve played all the others, but I haven’t played a Fazioli yet! Hopefully some day!❤
Wow, that was so interesting. What has always amazed me most about your playing is that you do most of it from memory, often staring at the camera and doing it so brilliantly. That said, it's stunning to consider the market value of some of those pianos. Thanks for sharing this with us. :)
If you find a good pianist who can’t memorize the pieces, call the news.
@@magicmulder Yes that's not the difficult bit.
The walnut Fazioli was lovely.
agreed!
Характер звучания разный у всех инструментов, разница в деталях тоже есть. Первые 3 играют просто и без акцентов на деталях. Все остальные играют примерно одинаково с разным характером, причём не всегда более дорогое играет лучше. Последнее естественно играет идеально и с большой разницей от других.
да абсолютно идиотский тест звучания, окружение разное везде. В идеале их нужно тестировать в абсолютно идентичных условиях. Да и люди смотря это в ютубе, с ограничениями качества платформы не могут оценить адекватно
там ещё разные инструменты пианино и рояль по этому звук разный но они похожи
Мне не понравилось выбранное произведение. Раздражает
I literally just got into piano and I am loving your videos. Awesome content!!🎉
Funny how I liked the sounds of some less expensive pianos more than the expensive ones
Yay ! Me too . ✋️
Hoffman and the previous two ones .
I just hated the gold one.
0:24 best sounding one
I honestly, seriously want that haunted piano.
I realize that a professional musician would likely prefer the more expensive ones simply due to build quality and feel etc., but for me, an old guy with an ear for vinyl records and cassette tapes, the Barthol and Berlin takes the spot simply because it has a warmer, "older" sound to it. Like something you would have seen Scott Joplin playing ragtime on, or would have been in a movie theater accompanying silent films. Just the history behind it alone makes it worthy of the top spot to me. Would be awesome to know where it's been and who has played on it through the years.
Also my favorite.
As a matter of fact, I came across discussions where some pianists mentioned how much they preferred old pianos, restored or not, because the wood had had the time to mature over time, and carries the burden of history upon its shoulder. When you play it, what you hear is propagated through a soundboard that has lived through history.
Of course, there's always something nice about clean and properly tuned new pianos. But an old one, untuned on top of it, tends to have a more distinct personality.
I am not a professional piano player, but a piano fanatic. When I see one, I have to play a few notes on it. To me the sound is all. And I can honestly say, I have only played on about 5 pianos in all this time which has touched my heart. My first choice is Steinway, by far. I have also played on a Bechstein which had the most beautiful tone. The irony is that my own piano is a real cheapy, but with an excellent sound till about 3 years ago when the baseboard started to bend. Cant afford to have it fixed though
Once you left the 50,000 range, I couldn't tell the difference. Very nice work. Thanks.
Once you get around $300K, any differences in sound quality there might be become too slight for me to distinguish. Whatever I thought I heard might be different, I could just as easily chalk up to the difference in acoustics as to the pianos themselves. Tough to be sure when they are each in a different kind of acoustic environment. Although I guess the $3 million gold one did sound different enough to not just be acoustics, but presumably the gold making the difference. Not sure it was actually a better sound though, just a little bit different in a way that probably wasn't the acoustics. Several of them I expect the absurd price to be to the artsy nature of the frame rather than anything particularly special about the materials or mechanics of how it plays.
Nice of them to let you play them instead of locking them up and cordoning them off! Also interesting that the 'better' they become, the more digital they start to sound. 😁 I'll stick to my Yamaha CLP 745 in polished ebony, thanks... when I get it. Great video!
That would be because digital pianos use samples recorded from high end acoustic pianos.
You are very fortunate, The 745 is a great piano.
Good job man - what a lucky guy you are, getting to tour/play all of these wonderful pianos.
Nice to see you FINALLY voiced and regulated the Barthol & Berlin! Such a nice piano, a shame it had hammers harder than my calluses after playing a 12 string guitar for 8 hours straight!
Very nice video! In my opinion it is hard to really appreciate the differences when you listen to a recording, because it will always depend on the microphone you use to record, the ambient where the piano is located, the compression you choose to edit the recording, the chipset of your computer sound or mobile phone (the equalizer settings), the quality of your headphones or the speakers 🤭. Although you can hear the differences, at the end of the day the perception and acceptance will be different to each person. I think there are many models among them which sound fabulous.
The only one I didn't immediately like was the Flying Fazioli which is attached to the buliding. Sound with my speakers was jarring compared to the others.
Always a pleasure to hear, entertaining and amusing.
That little ditty you played on the Flying Fazioli was pretty cool! Thanks for sharing!
That is one unique sentence right there
Brilliant editing job, editor deserves a medal for those cuts. It gets hard to tell them apart after the 4th or 5th, except for 2. The floating box sounded terrible and the one that looked like it was made out of little matchsticks sounded great. Plus, now I know about shipwrecked wine and the worth of a bitcoin a year ago.
I'm sorry, all Fazioli sound the same regardless of price. I even skipped back and forth on time line and all sound the same.
They sound extremely different
Not first, but you're a really good pianist
At times, I think you can tell the difference based on type, not price. But, it feels very subtle.
Lord Vinheteiro is the best 🇧🇷
LAST ONE is really nice to hear. but most credit goes to lord VIN .nice to see you after so long
That was fun 🤩
Thanks for sharing.
Im very thankful for taking your time to make this video 😊 i enjoyed it ❤
I had more work editing than recording.
@@Lord_Vinheteiro i believe, but traveling to alot of different places just to play pianos thats impressive !
Thank you. Each piano had its charm; my favorite was the mellow tones of the Hoffmann. ❤
The Kengo Kuma Fazioli wins for me in terms of visual interest, but I preferred the sound of the more modest pianos, from the Hoffmann upright through the first Fazioli. Of course it's very hard to judge truly from a video like this because they are all recorded in different spaces and so on.
I admire your piamo skills! Keep up the good work and you will continue being great!
Grande Lord, vou pra SP 28/05 e considero vc o mais respeitável instrumentalista do Brasil, tiraria uma fotinha só pra eu guardar de recordação? e.e
Obrigado por me considerar o melhor instrumentista do BRasil! Tiro a foto sim! Adoro fotos!
Abraços do Mestre das Champolas!
Boy! Vancouver sure does love a good piano!!
I love the sound of an old upright piano more than the ridiculously expensive grand pianos.
Me too!
Hmmm yes and no; the expensive ones have far more clarity and detail, but the cheap standing ones are far more gentle to the ears, much more relaxed....
@@MarcelNL Fair, that’s just me. I like old 1900-1930s upright and grand pianos best due to their very clear tone and warm sound.
I don't think the cheaper pianos in this video truely represent older pianos because if you listen to Roberts pianos, and LivingPianos's recordings of older pianos they don't actually sound like this🎹🎶
Thank You for you and your crews hard work. So much fun to listen to. I really liked the sound of the last gold one! The type of metal makes a difference in brass instruments and obviously in pianos, too. Thanks again.
That Hoffmann upright is surprisingly impressive. Neat sound editing!
Chances are he mixed the text of the Hoffman and the Bechstein, because the model he mentioned for the Bechstein is an upright, and the model of the Hoffman is a grand.
I applaud this pianist who is a virtuoso and a showman! Love what he plays whenever I listen. Good video-absolutely loved this video🌟
For me the best sounding pianos are the F183 and the Cloud. Beyond that the price becomes more about aesthetics rather than sound. I have always loved the Fazioli pianos for their warmth over the more bright Steinway. However the Fazioli is a little out of my price range. 🤭
I loved the White Butterfly
Sound is clear and clean
And the high Octaves of the Golden leaf piano is sparkling
Excellent performance on any piano, sir!🎹👋👍👋.
The Hoffman piano sound was night abd day after hearing the old and worn pianos. The Hoffman piano was our dad's gift to my brothers and i. Dad does not play any musical instrument but he has a keen ear to choosing best sounding piano in any price range.
At least he was able to see a YT video of the gold Fazioli piano in Vancouver a week before he become ill and passed away in the hospital. 😂😢❤🎹🙏
At some point it is not anymore about the sound of the piano but the design of the case, which is objectively a piece of art.
To me the Fazioli Cloud had the warmest tone of all, though the Fabiola Gold Leaf also sounded very good. Many pianos sounded good but these two sounded the best to me.
BRAOVO! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 He makes ALL the pianos sound amazing! Very gifted pianist. BRAVO !!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Encore!
O mestre das champolas arrebenta sempre!
Viva o mestre das champolas!