Dear Lord, I would like to extend my heartfelt gratitude for inviting me to collaborate on this informative and musical video. It was a pleasure working with you, although I must say, there was quite a handsome chap beside you in the video - quite the distraction! Congratulations on the fantastic work you do on the piano. Keep up the amazing work! Cheers, mate
he practice 14h per day He said in his channel that he dont agree those people who say u only need "30 min a day" of practice, he say if u wanna play good u should practice many hours
This was GREAT! As an intermediate guitarist I think you missed one of the biggest ones- for any given note there is only one spot on the piano to play it, and it’s very intuitive that moving left is lower and right is higher. On the guitar there are a lot of places to find the same note (except the lowest ones) or even an identical chord, and you have to pick your position depending on sound and what comes before and after in the music. Also.. harmonics
Had I not seen your comment I would have pointed out the same thing, and it's an important point. Playing both, I have, for that very reason, always considered the guitar more difficult. I can hear a piano piece (nothing overly complicated, I'm no expert) and figure out how to play it. With guitar I can hear it, but hearing it won't tell you where the note is being played. You generally have to go thru it over and over finding all the transitions to determine where to play a given note.
Being a bad guitar player myself, I find it's not difficult to be a low skill guitarist and be able to play things at a very basic level and most people would say it sounds fine. If I did the same on the piano, it would not impress at all. Piano takes more skill to get to playing anything that sounds halfway decent, BUT playing the guitar really well is insanely difficult. You can play guitar badly and still play enough to sing a pop song cover with your guitar, but getting to the level of a really great rock/classical/jazz guitarist is a massive amount of work.
Very true. That’s why most young people choose guitar. They can entertain a small group with basic skill. Not doable with a piano. Let alone it’s very hard to take along as was proven in the video.
Yeah, I started playing when I was 13 and within the first four months I could strum and sing loads of songs which was a great party trick. If you’re capable of blasting out something like American Pie or Rhinestone Cowboy at a party and are able to somewhat hold a tune then people are pretty easily impressed. But getting “properly good” is so difficult and takes real effort and time. I flat out tell anyone who says I can play that I can strum a few chords and can half hold a tune. I love playing my guitar but I’m not anywhere close enough to what I’d want to be to say I can really play.
Yes, with a guitar, if you know the chords, you can easily play a rhythm and sing along. On piano, if you hit one key wrong, it stands out. The guitar chords can be more flexible and more forgiving. Now, of course if you are playing advanced guitar pieces, single notes matter more, and then errors show up. The hardest thing I’ve found on guitar can be reaching some chord positions. F is notorious for this, beginners tend to struggle with the positioning. You may also come across some of this when you begin learning bar chords. Thankfully, the more you keep at it, the stronger your muscle memory becomes.
The piece is actually called "Leyenda" (legend). It was falsely named "Asturias" by a German music publisher. The name "Asturias" doesn't make sense, as the piece was clearly inpspired by Spanish music of the south.
Fabio played one of the most difficult pieces ever written on a guitar, not just by not looking at what he was doing, but also while talking to Vinheteiro. This is just beyond...
For someone who’s played classical guitar as a hobby since I was a teenager now transitioning to piano, so far this resonates! My favorite part was the uncomfortable stares mid performance, especially Asturias! 👏 that song is in fact as hard as it looks! Well done
Nesse vídeo a gente tem o suprassumo do que a cultura brasileira realmente representa, pessoas educadas e com um enorme conhecimento do que fazem. Orgulho demais do Fábio e do Vinheteiro 🇧🇷
Eu realmente queria que sua frase fosse verdadeira, mas aqui a cultura é infelizmente o carnaval, funk e sertanejo universitário. É o que se reflete para o mundo. Mas eu tenho um sonho! Um sonho de que nossos musicos de verdade um dia sejam valorizados!
The piano and the guitar are great, of course (I'm saying this as a pianist for ), but the violin is simply mind-blowing, yes, it's delightful, its sound is so tender and soulful, emotional.
wow, those performances are absolutely breathtaking! Each piece is a masterful display of skill and emotion, leaving an indelible impression of sheer perfection! 👍
I had the algorithm recommend him to me many years ago due to my appreciation for metal music. His Iron Maiden covers were the link. I don't know why but Maiden is huge in Brazil. Regardless his talent and technique was immediately apparent. There's some big guitarists on TH-cam but there's 8 billion people and so many diamonds in the rough. Not to disparage 1.6millions subscribers either it's just at the time it was much less.
Bah! Sinceramente, para mim, foi o melhor vídeo que no ano de 2024. Coisa linda! Oa dois melhores do mundo. Vinheteiro e Fábio Lima. Vocês são feras! Top!
@@OpalaoComodoro86É os cara doído por causa das falas do vinheteiro sobre a cultura brasileira, que eu não concordo nem um pouco, mas admito q ele é um talentoso músico, um dos melhores pianistas do país
@@LSpolski olhe meu comentário, está tudo lá. Me diga 5 composições deles. Nem vice sabe. É disso que escrevo, ser cover do Bach não vai te fazer eterno, a menos que seja um Glen Gould da vida. Se quiser, eu desenho.
I started learning piano as a music student and years after I did the jump into guitar. Mastering any instrument is equally hard and the limit is always the amount of work you put into it, never the instrument you chose. Said that, guitar is a much more expressive instrument than piano because your fingers, your pick, your nails... have much more control over the sound and you can achieve the same note in several different ways (slides, pitch armonics, hammers, pulls, tappings, picking, finger picking...). And that adds a whole set of serious problems into the equation. In fact, we are so used to these problems, that we unconciously "forgive" all these small mistakes in the interpretation and we accept them as the characteristic sound of a guitar.
And especially with the electric guitar you also have to take care of the strings which are not supposed to sound, dampening them carefully with your free fingers on the left hand and the palm of your right.
@@reinhardmuller9137Yep, over time though it becomes natural. But then again, not something you need to learn on piano or go over a curve with. I’d also say music theory is much easier to grasp if you start on piano.
why don't compare piano, guitar with a violin? Violin can play two notes together but is usually monophonic, far from a homophony instrument like guitar or piano. But violin is considered a very difficult instrument because the tone control is super hard. The fault tolerance on a violin is so little, while guitar is second, piano is third. But that doesn't mean the the violin is more difficult among three. It is because the piano score is the most complex (max. 10 notes simultaneously), guitar is second(max. 6 notes simultaneously), violin is third(max. 2 notes simultaneously). Piano can play the orchestral pieces solo. Some guitarists also tried orchestral pieces in one guitar, like the legendary Yamashita which is very rare. Yes guitar can do that. So, which is more hard to play? There is no answer. The general consensus is that the guitar looks casual, strum and sing. Guitar seems easy to play with... So I know, the gap between the real difficulty to the impression of the guitar is the largest.
1:57 this is why i like the classical guitar, it feels calm and has a mixed feeling of sadness and hapiness and anger. It lets the listener imagine a world of black and white and both a colored world. It can be dark and both colorful thats what i like about the classical guitar, the piano is more formal and fancy but the guitar is mixed with formality and being casual.
My entire family is waching Fabio Lima and Lord Vinheterio for years, but now totally unexpected you two got colaboration video. That was a brilliant idea and i enjoyed watching. Hope there is plenty more where that came from in the future. Greetings from Serbia. John
Fabio lives is Curitiba Brazil, Vinheteiro is from São Paulo. Fabio was doing some podcasts interviews in São Paulo, and then they just record a video 😂😂
1:30 this version of Greensleeves is one of the most beautiful combinations of piano and classic guitar that I've heard. It's only a few seconds long but it made my day a bit better. Thank your for sharing your amazing talent :)
I played guitar for almost 15 years and piano for almost 10. Here's my take. I think that the early stages of guitar are incredibly difficult, and that piano is much more welcoming to beginners. Once you become an intermidate to advanced guitarist, there isn't too much difficulty, much of guitars difficult at this stage is just building dexterity through repetition. Almost all high level techniques are ones you can do very slowly and gradually increase your speed by practice. The intermediate and advanced piano pieces far surpass the dexterity required by guitar. The volume of notes and speed needed for many advanced pieces I think makes piano a more difficult instrument to accel at. Guitar can also largely be learned and played with minimal music theory or sheet music reading. Piano demands much more understanding of theory and reading sheet music.
You clearly have never seen Van Halen or James Hetfield to start with. To be an "okay" guitarrist, what you said might be true, but to become a real great player it's much more difficult than "it sounds like that guy". Pianists can play perfectly old-schoolers, but its extremely rare to find great guitarists that can play what the best play and sound like them. If we're talking about classical guitar, Paco de Lucía is one great example, no one to date can sound like him nor match him. Spanish and Portuguese classical guitars are still unmatched to this day. On the other hand, if Beethoven was alive today, he would be playing a guitar (probably electric) and would be playing heavy metal. He was a pianist because they didn't have guitars back then. On the other hand he was a fan of the at-the-time guitar instrument that existed (different from current-day classical guitars). Guitars are at a much complex and higher level in every way than pianos (except for tuning and transporting them). Piano is great just to quickly prototype a song, but not for playing as they sound boring. Guitars sounds much vibrant and nicer with several layers of complexity to them.
I don’t agree. I play both instruments too, and especially the volume thing you mentioned+ string muting, legato and all those fine things are way harder to master on a high level on the guitar. It is not easy to produce good sounding notes out of this instrument and it has a lot of parameters that influence the tone. Plus you can spend a lifetime to master all the fretboard including arpeggios modes etc. on the guitar. There are literally endless playing techniques in every genre that are going far beyond tapping or legato. If you are good at classical music it doesn’t mean you are good at playing a blues solo or a heavy metal piece with a plectrum. There is no fucking roof hahaha it’s literally endless
@@LLF1234Classical piano easier than guitar? It's obvious that you don't know who Lizst or Chopin is, and the piano is a more complete instrument, capable of providing bass, harmony and melody. In Beethoven's time there were guitars, Schubert composed on the guitar because he didn't have money for a piano. If Beethoven composed on piano it is for something
When Vinheteiro and Fabio Lima get together, the earth stops moving for a moment. What a duo my friends! If these two invested 1 month working together we'd know what music people would be talking about in year 3024.
Also you can use the body of the guitar to tap and do some percussion like in the song "More than words" or some Flamenco styles. But in the piano it will be more difficult.
Keith Emerson used to strum the piano strings with his fingers. See "Take a Pebble" beginning. A piano is a harp lying sideways that you bang on with hammers.
Andrés Segovia (forefather of the contemporary repertoire for guitar) used to say that, because of its many complexities, the guitar is an instrument that could emulates a whole orchestra. Thank you very much for show us mortals the contrasts between of both instruments, beautiful and poweful as they are.
The most difficulty in piano is the complete indipendence in each hand. The brain have to work completely separated...in guitar you have to coordinate the hands just for make a single note or chord but you do not have to separete the hemisphere of your brain like in piano skills
@kralkrauterblach414 yeah that's why I wrote this...I can play piano but I remember the first time I tried was really complicated...continue trying and dedicate more time and you will see you can do it 😉
Not a piano person myself, but my kid's been playing piano for about 10 year and I've been filming her progress. Thought to share some data: # years piano practice 4 years - th-cam.com/video/PpkDkW1zpGo/w-d-xo.html 5 years - th-cam.com/video/Hc1NnX-reus/w-d-xo.html 7 years - th-cam.com/video/-bwGMcs1PmE/w-d-xo.html 8 years - th-cam.com/video/gUytCfVy5jM/w-d-xo.html 9 years - th-cam.com/video/ZnUgJCYddew/w-d-xo.html Acquiring independence in each hand took a few years. But there's a lot more after that. Some challenges that come to mind: * leaps - there are 88 keys. Some pieces make you go from one set of notes to another set of notes some dozens of keys away. Easy to hit the wrong notes. Even if you hit the right notes, you hit them with the wrong pressure and people can hear you made a mistake. * accompaniment + melody on the same hand - it's not just left hand accompaniment and right hand melody. In advanced pieces, the accompaniment and melody shifts from hand to hand. Sometimes in the same hand, you are playing accompaniment *and* melody at the same time. Somehow your brain has to tell the fingers that play melody to hit those notes harder than the ones playing the accompaniment. * pedaling - supposedly really advanced pianists can do 6 levels of pedaling pressure. Not sure how that works. Also, there are 3 pedals doing different things. Advanced pianists use all 3 pedals, vs. just the one that does sustain/no sustain. * dynamics - unlike harpischord, which is either string is plucked or not, piano uses hammer action. Depending on how fast the hammer hits the string, the sound is louder or softer. So there is infinite variation in terms of volume even in playing a single note. * articulation - subtle differences in time interval between pressing to conscutive keys contribute to "staccato" (short and detached) and "legato" (smooth and connected). Advanced pianists have more control in the intermediate variants between staccato and legato.
Piano and guitar occupy the same space so kinda hard to make them play nice. That said these guys are amazing and I’m sure they could arrange something 💥
A few big things missing from this video: - Guitar can have up to six different ways of playing the same note. This makes for plenty of different ways of playing the same exact chord voicing or melody. You can either choose to play inversions horizontally across the neck, as shown in the video, or you can play them vertically up the neck, or diagonally as well. - The acoustic guitar is capable of producing various timbres. E.g., sul tasto and sul ponticello. Not to mention light vs heavy pick and string gauges to produce warmer or brighter sounds. Furthermore, the angle of attack of a pick or nails (with classical guitar) also dictates timbre. - Piano can have more voicings for counterpoint, guitar normally has around 3 maximum (4 is really pushing it). Counterpoint is harder on guitar. - Guitars can actually bend notes, piano can only emulate bends via grace notes and common blues phrasing. - Since guitars can have different tunings this means you basically need to relearn the instrument all over again for each tuning. - There are several extended techniques for guitar that require mastery if you want to successfully play in a particular genre. E.g., fast tremolo picking and palm muting for metal, slide for blues, strumming, muting, slapping, and thumping for funk. I'm of course not saying guitar is more difficult or even more versatile. Keyboards permeate the same genres as guitar and the control and dexterity it takes to play counterpoint to the point of four or more voices is mind breaking for guitarists who've not studied keyboard, or heavy polyphony.
Infelizmente no Brasil esses dois mestres em seus instrumentos não tem ô reconhecimento que mereciam,mais fico feliz de ter algo que se salve aqui,Doce melódico e agradável aos ouvidos... 🎹🎸
@@icarojose6316 ele quer dizer em reconhecimento na midia. Mas eu conheci esses grande profissionais na internet a anos. Ja que não assisto tv e nao escuto radios a anos tbm, realmente nao tem coisa boa na midia mesmo Só o you tube pra nos salvar.
Having learned with what can be called low level success at each, my vote is that the piano is way harder. It is easier to make coherent sounds on a piano, but with the guitar both hands always work together. With the piano, the most complex music requires you to basically play to different songs with each hand (melody and accompaniment)
Even pretty simple music, frankly. Just something like The Doors' Riders on the Storm gets there immediately. A repeating bassline that's still more melodic than percussive (in contrast to eg. a blues shuffle) which is really easy, I suck and can play the bassline and talk at the same time. The lead isn't hard either. Playing both simple things at the same time? Yeah, it gets *hard* immediately, even if the parts themselves are easy.
I don't know about this comparison... You have to sync your hands to a rhythm with both instruments, but on a guitar they are doing radically different motions. At least with the piano you are using similar mechanics on each hand. You might train each hand individually on a piano, but you can apply the same theories to both of them. With guitar, the left versus right hand are two completely different areas of study.
@@orshy1 The difference in the mechanisms isn't hard - the operation of the guitar is easy. The brain's fundamentally built to coordinate disparate parts of our body to do things, but the brain is fundamentally a monotasker. The piano is difficult exactly because of that: Your hands have to be instructed to do different focus-requiring things at the same time, which is something the brain inherently sucks at. I play both pretty badly, and the playing basic guitar is a lot easier than playing basic piano. The guitar is just about refining your execution (which isn't to say that there isn't a ton of work in that - excellent execution is hard regardless), the piano gets to the point where you have to wrestle with the brain not being able to do two things at once pretty quickly. Even maintaining a basic blues shuffle while doing simple noodling on top needs work, as does my above example of The Doors' Riders on the Storm. The lead part and the bassline are both quite easy and even I can play them fine. Playing the leads on top of the bass, nope. That's hard as shit. The stuff I've found to be much easier on the piano is understanding what I'm actually playing. Since it's one long line of notes that are spoken of with their names, it's sort of impossible to not be aware of what notes I'm playing. With the guitar, I'd learn a pattern for the minor scale, say, and pick a root note and just play on the pattern. I'd have no clue what notes I was actually playing, let alone from what octaves. With the piano I just know, and it's pretty hard not to. It's also really easy to visualize other instruments' ranges and such, which isn't anywhere near as easy on the guitar. That ease of understanding's also really made piano the first instrument I can actually express myself and improvise on, even if it's in a somewhat limited fashion.
I started piano lessons at 5 and continued until I was 13. I’m not at all great at it, but I enjoy it. I started learning guitar at 40. To me, it is so much harder to learn. The same note can be in multiple places on the fretboard. The piano is , in my brain, linear. The guitar is different. But I like them both. They are wonderful instruments
Muito obrigado por esse presente nesse sábado, grande Lordão, o pai da música clássica brasileira, e mestre Fábio Lima, minha grande inspiração. Vocês dois, através dos vídeos tocando músicas de animes e outras, me fizeram conhecer a música clássica e me apaixonar. Hoje em dia ouço até ópera. Muito obrigado mesmo e mal posso esperar por mais vídeos com os dois. Grande abraço e que Deus vos abençoe.👏👏👏👏👏👏
Quel délicieux petit concours entre deux artistes remarquables, nous donnant un aperçu unique des qualités de chaque instrument. Très belle initiative qui devrait être répétée avec un accordéon...
Asturias (Leyenda) was the song my dad introduced to me that got me into playing guitar, and more specifically the nylon string guitar. I still can't play it today but in all my trying it was what eventually forged my own style and way of playing.
Not to mention the beginning of the scarlatti piece here started with an open string, whereas majority of the arrangements I have read on the guitar suggest to begin on the 2nd string. Whats even harder is that there are just multiple ways/position to play certain notes, passages, and chords on the guitar depending on what the piece needs. Also, kudos to the guitarist for a well executed tremolo. Great content btw.
Its much harder to start guitar honnestly. It takes months to be able to just play the seven basic chords due to the 2 barre chords. Plus as you are the one who makes the notes by touching the strings you stuggle for month with fret buzz, hurting your fingers on steel strings, hitting the wrong strings during arpegio... I think it takes 1 year to be as good as as a 1 month beginer in piano.
I couldn't agree more. I studied pianos for a year when younger, and I am studying guitar now. The beggining of the piano was waaaaay easier than the guitar. Doing stuff over a keyboard is more logical, everything is clear in fron of you. But the fretboard is another stuff, plus the coordination of two hand is harder in the guitar.
Guitar, without a doubt! I had a piano teacher once who taught and played a huge number of instruments - piano, guitar, trumpet, accordion, flute, violin, saxophone, etc. He told me the guitar was one of the harder ones, and the piano is relatively easier by comparison. I certainly found it so. I simply could never understand the 'logic' of a fretboard. With the piano, it's all there - laid out, in scales. Plus, you don't get sore fingertips!
Piano maybe seems more accessible for a music beginner but it has next a lot of technical difficulties that you don't find with other instruments. I also find guitar is easy for starters.
@@superpotironI’ve found people get easily discouraged when beginning to learn the guitar due to how hard it is to play a clean note. Overcoming the awkwardness of the fingerings and not muting strings is quite difficult to get used to.
Also, I think classical guitar has this beautiful thing where you're playing three parts at once (base, melody and harmony) and putting that all together when you need both hands just to play one note gives you this appreciation for the interplay between each part. Case and point, I was listening to Chopin's Nocturne No 2 the other day and that is a HARD piece to play, even on piano. Listening to someone play it well on guitar is just... Breathtaking.
I play both not and not very bad. And I can tell you that repetitions in piano are much more difficult. Guitarists use technique shown in video at 1:15 from the first year of education. or 2nd year surely! Asturias ain't that hard on guitar - I learned it in musical school at 4th or 5th year of education and played it very well. Not a pro ofc, but still ... What is REALLY hard to play on the guitar is Bach. And as I love Bach most of all I finished playing piano. Polifony is the hardest thing to play on the guitar perfectly. Glenn Gould has chosen piano - so the choice was obvious for me.
No one learns tremolo on the guitar during first or second year of practice what are you on about. And it's certainly not an easy technique, not when done correctly that is.
@@MrCamille9999 I did. And other students in my school also did. The reason ofc not to play tremolo like a pro with perfect timing, dynamic and fast. The key idea is to develop independence of every finger of the right hand. Tremolo is a good way to practice that even for beginners. Of course, starting very-very clowly. And if a student can, increasing speed after some time.
@@MrCamille9999 I can even remember a piece called 'Malaguena' if I am correct. When you start from playing bass with P-finger and open E as single 8th note, then with triads (bass = melody + other 2 notes with 2 fingers) and then same melody 16th notes - bass + 3 fingers open E. absolutely perfect and easy for beginners. surely you can google this piece.
@@MrCamille9999 when using a pick, tremolo is learned in the 1st few hours of guitar playing. I play some classical guitar, but am primarily an electric guitarist these days playing various styles but being at home with progressive extreme metal of sorts. I was trem picking literally on my 1st day of playing the electric guitar, and doing tremolo on a nylon string via "Malaguena" after maybe 20 mins (while already being years into the guitar, but never having done "classical" tremolo). The piano is immeasurably more difficult than the guitar beyond human comprehension.
That song is my lives most beautifull song ever had in my ears introducéd to me by the Doors, then heard the classical guitar version 1000 times. Just digg it a lot.
I would say if comparing playing same complexity music on Guitar and Piano, Guitar is way more difficult and can have more detailes, tons and feelings in the music. But on the other side, the most advanced of Piano music is way more complex than what Guitar can play. They are both great instruments !
It's was of course a joke on the video (I mean playing a given piece on 2 different instruments) but some people here took it at face value. Playing Asturias on triangle is impossible so that would mean that triangle is harder than guitar ?!!
Meu professor de violão do conservatório musical de Tatuí sempre dizia: use a técnica para mostrar a MÚSICA, não música para mostrar a técnica. Vinheteiro MARAVILHOSO, a propósito.
Enjoyed watching this. Good thoughts on comparing abilities with instruments and difficulty levels...plus we got to hear good music. Thanks to you both.
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Dear Lord, I would like to extend my heartfelt gratitude for inviting me to collaborate on this informative and musical video. It was a pleasure working with you, although I must say, there was quite a handsome chap beside you in the video - quite the distraction!
Congratulations on the fantastic work you do on the piano. Keep up the amazing work!
Cheers, mate
And you stare as well as Vinheteiro as you’re a good musician! 😊
Absolutely beautiful. I'm following you. This was just wonderful.
That was cool
Two Masters giving us an excepcional performance ! Thanks a lot ! Absolutely beautiful…….
What's with the blinking camera I don't like that
2:51 Vibrato can be attained on the piano by violently rocking the piano back and forth.
Good one 😂
Jon Lord from Deep Purple did it all the time. 😅
@@mikepants3736 I knew he did it with his Hammond organ
😳🤔🤷🏻♂️You're not wrong.
Easier said than done😂
Forgot to mention tuning: tuning a guitar is quite easy, while tuning a piano is so laborious, it's even a profession
Forgot to mention, the guitar you must tune every single time you play lol, a piano need to be tuned like twice a year
@@Karius__Forgot to mention, changing strings is really a bore and you must tune the guitar several times within a song after that 😂
But I’ll probably tune my guitar around 5,000 times for each time a piano needs tuning.
Sure, you can tune a piano. But can you tuna fish?
@@sopwithsnoopy8779 I eat tuna fish, with some mayo.
That guy never stops looking at the camera when playing that difficult guitar piece....amazing.
"That guy" is probably the best br
Um dos muitos que temos aqui no Brasil 🇧🇷
@@lindi2001 👍 O.k., I hear ya...😄
He's playing a specific scale and aroeggio, he's probably practiced those shapes thousands of times
he practice 14h per day
He said in his channel that he dont agree those people who say u only need "30 min a day" of practice, he say if u wanna play good u should practice many hours
That last guitar piece is just stunning.
It is, but how is it possible you didn't know it before?! It's one of the most popular classical guitar pieces.
@@blekfut5763 he never said he didn't he just said it was stunning
asturias
@@luke515 we all can see that at 3.16?
and his eyes dont even move
This guy just casually belted out the most expressive, on-point rendition of Asturias I’ve heard since Vidovic. Bravo!
Хорошо он сыграл. Он так его видит.
And he didn't even look at the fret board!!
He is Fabio Lima, a Brazilian guitarrist that has already been considered the best guitarrist of the world. The guy is a guitar genius.
Fabio Lima is absolutely insane
@@klaatubarada7556 You want to sound smart but you couldn't figure out that the video is meant to be silly and comedic...
2 Brazilian masters on their own instruments. I'm a big fan of both!
It's not my style of music, but I thought it was fantastic
Maiores seres humanos de todos os tempos:
5º Alexandre, o Grande
4º Lula
3º Jesus Cristo
2º Aristóteles
1º Leonardo da Vinci
Que crime é esse que você cometeu? @@Dani_425
pelo visto vc quer atenção apenas .
@@Dani_425 sua mãe é a primeira
This was GREAT! As an intermediate guitarist I think you missed one of the biggest ones- for any given note there is only one spot on the piano to play it, and it’s very intuitive that moving left is lower and right is higher. On the guitar there are a lot of places to find the same note (except the lowest ones) or even an identical chord, and you have to pick your position depending on sound and what comes before and after in the music. Also.. harmonics
Had I not seen your comment I would have pointed out the same thing, and it's an important point. Playing both, I have, for that very reason, always considered the guitar more difficult. I can hear a piano piece (nothing overly complicated, I'm no expert) and figure out how to play it. With guitar I can hear it, but hearing it won't tell you where the note is being played. You generally have to go thru it over and over finding all the transitions to determine where to play a given note.
Being a bad guitar player myself, I find it's not difficult to be a low skill guitarist and be able to play things at a very basic level and most people would say it sounds fine. If I did the same on the piano, it would not impress at all. Piano takes more skill to get to playing anything that sounds halfway decent, BUT playing the guitar really well is insanely difficult. You can play guitar badly and still play enough to sing a pop song cover with your guitar, but getting to the level of a really great rock/classical/jazz guitarist is a massive amount of work.
To say nothing of the callouses involved. 😮
Very true. That’s why most young people choose guitar. They can entertain a small group with basic skill. Not doable with a piano. Let alone it’s very hard to take along as was proven in the video.
Yeah, I started playing when I was 13 and within the first four months I could strum and sing loads of songs which was a great party trick. If you’re capable of blasting out something like American Pie or Rhinestone Cowboy at a party and are able to somewhat hold a tune then people are pretty easily impressed.
But getting “properly good” is so difficult and takes real effort and time. I flat out tell anyone who says I can play that I can strum a few chords and can half hold a tune.
I love playing my guitar but I’m not anywhere close enough to what I’d want to be to say I can really play.
Opposite for me learning the piano was a lot easier and i could find the notes much more easily than having to press down on the strings hard
Yes, with a guitar, if you know the chords, you can easily play a rhythm and sing along. On piano, if you hit one key wrong, it stands out. The guitar chords can be more flexible and more forgiving. Now, of course if you are playing advanced guitar pieces, single notes matter more, and then errors show up.
The hardest thing I’ve found on guitar can be reaching some chord positions. F is notorious for this, beginners tend to struggle with the positioning. You may also come across some of this when you begin learning bar chords. Thankfully, the more you keep at it, the stronger your muscle memory becomes.
The way the guys compete in their poker face skills looks amazing
Max Ostro should join them
@@philmansfield8825 They both are staring into your soul.
@icealchemist9122
Dancing in their poker faces #sb19moonlightmv
especially when he did the slide at 2:30, the short note at the end killed me 😂
fr bro
For anyone wondering, the piece he plays at the end is Asturias by Isaac Albeniz
and at 1:30?
The piece is actually called "Leyenda" (legend). It was falsely named "Asturias" by a German music publisher. The name "Asturias" doesn't make sense, as the piece was clearly inpspired by Spanish music of the south.
Greensleeves @@NalahOG
@@PeterLaman Yeah most classical guitarists will call it Leyenda, never heard the name Astruias
And he KILLS IT!!!
Getting a girlfriend for being a pianist is also harder than as a guitarrist
😂😂😂😂
definitely missed a trick here
Best argument possible😂
Perhaps only as a teenager, but in any other case, I would beg to differ.
@@jurajboric786 agreed. piano is viewed as the more sophisticated instrument respected by the discerning mature lady
This guy actually made Vinheteiro smile. He tried to hide it, but we all saw it happen.
Yes he liked😊
historic moment.... but anyway both are excelent players!!!
I missed it! What time?
@@ThrashTillDeth83In the end of the video.
And the time his whole face covered is when he really showed his teeth
3:30 WOW, just stunning. i need to hear/see more of this magnificent guitar player. THANK YOU !!
Fabio Lima
Fabio Lima is the best of brazilian guitar player
Take a look at Alla Turca by Fabio Lima
Jam and Spoon - Right in the night
No big deal he's playing Leyanda by Albinez. Many play it even better
Fabio played one of the most difficult pieces ever written on a guitar, not just by not looking at what he was doing, but also while talking to Vinheteiro. This is just beyond...
Asturias was originally written for the piano.
It was arrenged for the guitar.
beautiful, but definitely not one of the most difficult.
Yes it’s challenging but doable. There are way harder pieces
maybe one of the most dificult classical pieces, but in general context, includding all styles, its not even close the hardests 😅
@@octaviodobelin2922 exactly, like almost any arrangement by marcin for example is way harder than asturias
Does looking help?
For someone who’s played classical guitar as a hobby since I was a teenager now transitioning to piano, so far this resonates! My favorite part was the uncomfortable stares mid performance, especially Asturias! 👏 that song is in fact as hard as it looks! Well done
3:15 that meshed so well. I love to hear this whole piece with a back and forth style. It was beautiful.
sounds like in the middle of the night by elle duye or something like that
song's name?
@@igormoreira4190Asturias by Isaac Albéniz. Originally composed for piano, but it's best known for the guitar version.
Nesse vídeo a gente tem o suprassumo do que a cultura brasileira realmente representa, pessoas educadas e com um enorme conhecimento do que fazem. Orgulho demais do Fábio e do Vinheteiro 🇧🇷
merecem mais reconhecimento
Comentário altamente satisfatório. Pra mim o melhor. Parabéns.
nossa, que babação de ovo!
Eu realmente queria que sua frase fosse verdadeira, mas aqui a cultura é infelizmente o carnaval, funk e sertanejo universitário. É o que se reflete para o mundo. Mas eu tenho um sonho! Um sonho de que nossos musicos de verdade um dia sejam valorizados!
nada a ver man, não é pq eles são talentosos e educados que a população brasileira tambêm é, espero que caia logo um meteoro no brasil
Dois mestres da música juntos,incrível, a música de qualidade tem salvação!
Valeu!
@@Lord_Vinheteiro Esses dois não são fezes!!
@@amaurileiteferreirajunior8237 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@@Lord_Vinheteiro fezes, há isso mpuica de qualidade não fuck feito no Brasil.
The piano and the guitar are great, of course (I'm saying this as a pianist for ), but the violin is simply mind-blowing, yes, it's delightful, its sound is so tender and soulful, emotional.
Agreed, but it lacks a lot of ways to express the same note compared to a guitar.
Listen complete pieces by Lord Vinheteiro on Spotify: tinyurl.com/4zhekjc9
wow, those performances are absolutely breathtaking! Each piece is a masterful display of skill and emotion, leaving an indelible impression of sheer perfection! 👍
Não esquece de deixar o comentário fixo para as pessoas verem ele.
At 1:30 what song is it ? Please tell
@@Shade-Slayer Greensleeves
Aways claimed that Fabio's precision was out of the box, but DOING WITHOUT LOOKING??? OUT OF THIS WORLD DUDE
Paco de lucia
I had the algorithm recommend him to me many years ago due to my appreciation for metal music. His Iron Maiden covers were the link. I don't know why but Maiden is huge in Brazil. Regardless his talent and technique was immediately apparent.
There's some big guitarists on TH-cam but there's 8 billion people and so many diamonds in the rough. Not to disparage 1.6millions subscribers either it's just at the time it was much less.
He’s looking with his inner eye.
@@sergiomoreno5250 E começa agora mais uma rodada do Campeonato Mundial de Melhor Músico.🤦♂
In no way am. I knocking him. He's a very very talented guitarist. But not looking is pretty much classical guitar 101
Bah! Sinceramente, para mim, foi o melhor vídeo que no ano de 2024. Coisa linda! Oa dois melhores do mundo. Vinheteiro e Fábio Lima. Vocês são feras! Top!
E já vi nego falar que vinheteiro não toca nada, olha os comentários dos gringos eles valorizam mais ele do que os br.
Brabos demais!!! 🎶🎶👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@OpalaoComodoro86É os cara doído por causa das falas do vinheteiro sobre a cultura brasileira, que eu não concordo nem um pouco, mas admito q ele é um talentoso músico, um dos melhores pianistas do país
Brasil Sil Sil
@@o_oLIPP É umpersonagem dele mas o pessoal não entende.
Que he visto por Dios toco los dos instrumentos. Y no podría hacer un duelo así... que bella es la música. Muchas gracias por ese desafío...
Infelizmente, músicos como vocês dois não tem o reconhecimento que merecem no nosso país.
Mas é assim mesmo, o acesso a algo nao quer dizer que todos vão busca-lo.
Por isso quase ninguém fala inglês
Eles são intérpretes, isso não ajuda em nada. Na música, o que vale é o legado da composição e não onde covers perfeitos.
@@infotecgames leia de novo teu comentário, olhe pras musicas "valorizadas" hj. Não faz sentido.
@@LSpolski olhe meu comentário, está tudo lá. Me diga 5 composições deles. Nem vice sabe. É disso que escrevo, ser cover do Bach não vai te fazer eterno, a menos que seja um Glen Gould da vida. Se quiser, eu desenho.
@@infotecgames me diga 5 composições do Sambô. Me diga quem que o povão conhece mais. Cover por cover quem é mais conhecido do povão?
I started learning piano as a music student and years after I did the jump into guitar. Mastering any instrument is equally hard and the limit is always the amount of work you put into it, never the instrument you chose. Said that, guitar is a much more expressive instrument than piano because your fingers, your pick, your nails... have much more control over the sound and you can achieve the same note in several different ways (slides, pitch armonics, hammers, pulls, tappings, picking, finger picking...). And that adds a whole set of serious problems into the equation. In fact, we are so used to these problems, that we unconciously "forgive" all these small mistakes in the interpretation and we accept them as the characteristic sound of a guitar.
And especially with the electric guitar you also have to take care of the strings which are not supposed to sound, dampening them carefully with your free fingers on the left hand and the palm of your right.
Pianists react in 5, 4, 3, 2, ......
@@reinhardmuller9137Yep, over time though it becomes natural. But then again, not something you need to learn on piano or go over a curve with. I’d also say music theory is much easier to grasp if you start on piano.
Will all the Recorder players please stand up
why don't compare piano, guitar with a violin? Violin can play two notes together but is usually monophonic, far from a homophony instrument like guitar or piano. But violin is considered a very difficult instrument because the tone control is super hard. The fault tolerance on a violin is so little, while guitar is second, piano is third.
But that doesn't mean the the violin is more difficult among three. It is because the piano score is the most complex (max. 10 notes simultaneously), guitar is second(max. 6 notes simultaneously), violin is third(max. 2 notes simultaneously). Piano can play the orchestral pieces solo.
Some guitarists also tried orchestral pieces in one guitar, like the legendary Yamashita which is very rare. Yes guitar can do that.
So, which is more hard to play? There is no answer.
The general consensus is that the guitar looks casual, strum and sing. Guitar seems easy to play with...
So I know, the gap between the real difficulty to the impression of the guitar is the largest.
3:01 Domenico Scarlatti - Sonata K322
Thank you!
Thanksss!!!
Thank you
Thank you!
Thanks brother
1:57 this is why i like the classical guitar, it feels calm and has a mixed feeling of sadness and hapiness and anger. It lets the listener imagine a world of black and white and both a colored world. It can be dark and both colorful thats what i like about the classical guitar, the piano is more formal and fancy but the guitar is mixed with formality and being casual.
My entire family is waching Fabio Lima and Lord Vinheterio for years, but now totally unexpected you two got colaboration video. That was a brilliant idea and i enjoyed watching. Hope there is plenty more where that came from in the future. Greetings from Serbia. John
Fabio lives is Curitiba Brazil, Vinheteiro is from São Paulo. Fabio was doing some podcasts interviews in São Paulo, and then they just record a video 😂😂
Two brazilians monsters
#legends 🔥🎶🔥🎶💪🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Are they both Brazilian? I never knew that!
@@JaneAustenAteMyCat yes
Yes@@JaneAustenAteMyCat
@@JaneAustenAteMyCat yes
PH video titles be like...
1:30 this version of Greensleeves is one of the most beautiful combinations of piano and classic guitar that I've heard. It's only a few seconds long but it made my day a bit better. Thank your for sharing your amazing talent :)
What is the name of the piece?
Greensleves - Celtic Ladies
Brazilian brilliant musicians! Glad to see it!
I played guitar for almost 15 years and piano for almost 10. Here's my take.
I think that the early stages of guitar are incredibly difficult, and that piano is much more welcoming to beginners.
Once you become an intermidate to advanced guitarist, there isn't too much difficulty, much of guitars difficult at this stage is just building dexterity through repetition. Almost all high level techniques are ones you can do very slowly and gradually increase your speed by practice.
The intermediate and advanced piano pieces far surpass the dexterity required by guitar. The volume of notes and speed needed for many advanced pieces I think makes piano a more difficult instrument to accel at.
Guitar can also largely be learned and played with minimal music theory or sheet music reading. Piano demands much more understanding of theory and reading sheet music.
You clearly have never seen Van Halen or James Hetfield to start with. To be an "okay" guitarrist, what you said might be true, but to become a real great player it's much more difficult than "it sounds like that guy". Pianists can play perfectly old-schoolers, but its extremely rare to find great guitarists that can play what the best play and sound like them. If we're talking about classical guitar, Paco de Lucía is one great example, no one to date can sound like him nor match him. Spanish and Portuguese classical guitars are still unmatched to this day.
On the other hand, if Beethoven was alive today, he would be playing a guitar (probably electric) and would be playing heavy metal. He was a pianist because they didn't have guitars back then. On the other hand he was a fan of the at-the-time guitar instrument that existed (different from current-day classical guitars).
Guitars are at a much complex and higher level in every way than pianos (except for tuning and transporting them).
Piano is great just to quickly prototype a song, but not for playing as they sound boring. Guitars sounds much vibrant and nicer with several layers of complexity to them.
I don’t agree. I play both instruments too, and especially the volume thing you mentioned+ string muting, legato and all those fine things are way harder to master on a high level on the guitar. It is not easy to produce good sounding notes out of this instrument and it has a lot of parameters that influence the tone.
Plus you can spend a lifetime to master all the fretboard including arpeggios modes etc. on the guitar. There are literally endless playing techniques in every genre that are going far beyond tapping or legato. If you are good at classical music it doesn’t mean you are good at playing a blues solo or a heavy metal piece with a plectrum. There is no fucking roof hahaha it’s literally endless
Advanced classical guitar in my opinion is much harder than advanced piano (electric is far easier however)
@@liambeers8458 I agree but electrical can also be really challenging, always depends on the genre etc
@@LLF1234Classical piano easier than guitar? It's obvious that you don't know who Lizst or Chopin is, and the piano is a more complete instrument, capable of providing bass, harmony and melody. In Beethoven's time there were guitars, Schubert composed on the guitar because he didn't have money for a piano. If Beethoven composed on piano it is for something
When Vinheteiro and Fabio Lima get together, the earth stops moving for a moment. What a duo my friends! If these two invested 1 month working together we'd know what music people would be talking about in year 3024.
I never felt the earth move my entire life on this planet I was told it moved by teachers by the matrix
I'm here from the year 3024, and you were right.
Brilliant, thank you so much for this video, absolutely gorgeous presentation. Bravo!
I love when Notch and Keanu Reeves play instruments together
LOL
KKKKKKKKKKKK I understood that reference...
They are from LIDL though
I saw Tom Cruise instead.
Essa foi pica KKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Also you can use the body of the guitar to tap and do some percussion like in the song "More than words" or some Flamenco styles. But in the piano it will be more difficult.
I forgot to show this.
you can kick the piano 🤣
@@insu_na lol
Part II
Keith Emerson used to strum the piano strings with his fingers. See "Take a Pebble" beginning. A piano is a harp lying sideways that you bang on with hammers.
Learning the piano truly helped paved what way forward for my finger picking.
Bravo! Senti falta de falar das mãos. Dedos dos pianistas não têm calos e as unhas devem ser muito bem aparadas.
Andrés Segovia (forefather of the contemporary repertoire for guitar) used to say that, because of its many complexities, the guitar is an instrument that could emulates a whole orchestra. Thank you very much for show us mortals the contrasts between of both instruments, beautiful and poweful as they are.
The most difficulty in piano is the complete indipendence in each hand. The brain have to work completely separated...in guitar you have to coordinate the hands just for make a single note or chord but you do not have to separete the hemisphere of your brain like in piano skills
Exact , i play ok guitar ,but piano i try since 3 years and really frustrated still can not play both hands independence :-(
@kralkrauterblach414 yeah that's why I wrote this...I can play piano but I remember the first time I tried was really complicated...continue trying and dedicate more time and you will see you can do it 😉
Agreed, it took me forever to learn even the easiest piece of Bach's Inventions
F major in piano 😂... F major in guitar 😢... the guitar is most dificult...
Not a piano person myself, but my kid's been playing piano for about 10 year and I've been filming her progress. Thought to share some data:
# years piano practice
4 years - th-cam.com/video/PpkDkW1zpGo/w-d-xo.html
5 years - th-cam.com/video/Hc1NnX-reus/w-d-xo.html
7 years - th-cam.com/video/-bwGMcs1PmE/w-d-xo.html
8 years - th-cam.com/video/gUytCfVy5jM/w-d-xo.html
9 years - th-cam.com/video/ZnUgJCYddew/w-d-xo.html
Acquiring independence in each hand took a few years. But there's a lot more after that. Some challenges that come to mind:
* leaps - there are 88 keys. Some pieces make you go from one set of notes to another set of notes some dozens of keys away. Easy to hit the wrong notes. Even if you hit the right notes, you hit them with the wrong pressure and people can hear you made a mistake.
* accompaniment + melody on the same hand - it's not just left hand accompaniment and right hand melody. In advanced pieces, the accompaniment and melody shifts from hand to hand. Sometimes in the same hand, you are playing accompaniment *and* melody at the same time. Somehow your brain has to tell the fingers that play melody to hit those notes harder than the ones playing the accompaniment.
* pedaling - supposedly really advanced pianists can do 6 levels of pedaling pressure. Not sure how that works. Also, there are 3 pedals doing different things. Advanced pianists use all 3 pedals, vs. just the one that does sustain/no sustain.
* dynamics - unlike harpischord, which is either string is plucked or not, piano uses hammer action. Depending on how fast the hammer hits the string, the sound is louder or softer. So there is infinite variation in terms of volume even in playing a single note.
* articulation - subtle differences in time interval between pressing to conscutive keys contribute to "staccato" (short and detached) and "legato" (smooth and connected). Advanced pianists have more control in the intermediate variants between staccato and legato.
An informative and beautiful lesson in one sitting. Thanks so much.
Achei o máximo vocês dois juntos ! Uma dupla de talentos inigualáveis.
Thank you for sharing us you incredible talents! cheers from ITALY!
This is so much fun! My 12-year-old guitarist and 9-year-old pianist will love this!
Transition from piano asturias to guitar was perfect!
It s best Asturias I've been ever heard ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Os dois são o quê temos de melhor dos artistas musicais brasileiros. Os dois melhores em cada particularidade dos instrumentos. 😮
I wanna hear something you two play together.
www.youtube.com/@Lord_Vinheteiro/search?query=fabio%20lima
It's not their first video together. Search in this channel for "Fábio Lima" and you'll find it.
Vinheteiro And Fábio Lima there are many videos of them playing together...
Freebird
Piano and guitar occupy the same space so kinda hard to make them play nice. That said these guys are amazing and I’m sure they could arrange something 💥
bring more Fabio Lima!
I love that at no point did the guitarist use a capo- yet the video pointed out how easy it is to change key!
i hate capos, i fully expected a capo.
A few big things missing from this video:
- Guitar can have up to six different ways of playing the same note. This makes for plenty of different ways of playing the same exact chord voicing or melody. You can either choose to play inversions horizontally across the neck, as shown in the video, or you can play them vertically up the neck, or diagonally as well.
- The acoustic guitar is capable of producing various timbres. E.g., sul tasto and sul ponticello. Not to mention light vs heavy pick and string gauges to produce warmer or brighter sounds. Furthermore, the angle of attack of a pick or nails (with classical guitar) also dictates timbre.
- Piano can have more voicings for counterpoint, guitar normally has around 3 maximum (4 is really pushing it). Counterpoint is harder on guitar.
- Guitars can actually bend notes, piano can only emulate bends via grace notes and common blues phrasing.
- Since guitars can have different tunings this means you basically need to relearn the instrument all over again for each tuning.
- There are several extended techniques for guitar that require mastery if you want to successfully play in a particular genre. E.g., fast tremolo picking and palm muting for metal, slide for blues, strumming, muting, slapping, and thumping for funk.
I'm of course not saying guitar is more difficult or even more versatile. Keyboards permeate the same genres as guitar and the control and dexterity it takes to play counterpoint to the point of four or more voices is mind breaking for guitarists who've not studied keyboard, or heavy polyphony.
Infelizmente no Brasil esses dois mestres em seus instrumentos não tem ô reconhecimento que mereciam,mais fico feliz de ter algo que se salve aqui,Doce melódico e agradável aos ouvidos... 🎹🎸
É claro quem, FabioLima tem milhões de inscritos Br
@@icarojose6316 ele quer dizer em reconhecimento na midia.
Mas eu conheci esses grande profissionais na internet a anos. Ja que não assisto tv e nao escuto radios a anos tbm, realmente nao tem coisa boa na midia mesmo
Só o you tube pra nos salvar.
Two masters of their instruments at work. Bravo
Having learned with what can be called low level success at each, my vote is that the piano is way harder. It is easier to make coherent sounds on a piano, but with the guitar both hands always work together. With the piano, the most complex music requires you to basically play to different songs with each hand (melody and accompaniment)
Even pretty simple music, frankly. Just something like The Doors' Riders on the Storm gets there immediately. A repeating bassline that's still more melodic than percussive (in contrast to eg. a blues shuffle) which is really easy, I suck and can play the bassline and talk at the same time. The lead isn't hard either. Playing both simple things at the same time? Yeah, it gets *hard* immediately, even if the parts themselves are easy.
I don't know about this comparison... You have to sync your hands to a rhythm with both instruments, but on a guitar they are doing radically different motions. At least with the piano you are using similar mechanics on each hand. You might train each hand individually on a piano, but you can apply the same theories to both of them. With guitar, the left versus right hand are two completely different areas of study.
@@orshy1 The difference in the mechanisms isn't hard - the operation of the guitar is easy. The brain's fundamentally built to coordinate disparate parts of our body to do things, but the brain is fundamentally a monotasker. The piano is difficult exactly because of that: Your hands have to be instructed to do different focus-requiring things at the same time, which is something the brain inherently sucks at. I play both pretty badly, and the playing basic guitar is a lot easier than playing basic piano. The guitar is just about refining your execution (which isn't to say that there isn't a ton of work in that - excellent execution is hard regardless), the piano gets to the point where you have to wrestle with the brain not being able to do two things at once pretty quickly. Even maintaining a basic blues shuffle while doing simple noodling on top needs work, as does my above example of The Doors' Riders on the Storm. The lead part and the bassline are both quite easy and even I can play them fine. Playing the leads on top of the bass, nope. That's hard as shit.
The stuff I've found to be much easier on the piano is understanding what I'm actually playing. Since it's one long line of notes that are spoken of with their names, it's sort of impossible to not be aware of what notes I'm playing. With the guitar, I'd learn a pattern for the minor scale, say, and pick a root note and just play on the pattern. I'd have no clue what notes I was actually playing, let alone from what octaves. With the piano I just know, and it's pretty hard not to. It's also really easy to visualize other instruments' ranges and such, which isn't anywhere near as easy on the guitar.
That ease of understanding's also really made piano the first instrument I can actually express myself and improvise on, even if it's in a somewhat limited fashion.
Brasil sempre foi um celeiro de grandes músicos e virtuoses, isso não é segredo.
Fabio has the looks of a guitarist, Vinheteiro has the looks of a pianist.
Nah, it's just the leather jacket.
Fabio is one of my all time favorite contemporary guitarists, so glad social media introduced me to him
1:07 BEST FIGHT 🔝🔝🔝
Yes
Cold stare: no contest 🏆
Spanish Guitar playing time
Flamenco!
@@Lord_VinheteiroGuitar very difficult instrument
@@Lord_Vinheteiro Which song are you playing at 1:07? Or is it just a exercise?
I started piano lessons at 5 and continued until I was 13. I’m not at all great at it, but I enjoy it. I started learning guitar at 40. To me, it is so much harder to learn. The same note can be in multiple places on the fretboard. The piano is , in my brain, linear. The guitar is different. But I like them both. They are wonderful instruments
Muito obrigado por esse presente nesse sábado, grande Lordão, o pai da música clássica brasileira, e mestre Fábio Lima, minha grande inspiração. Vocês dois, através dos vídeos tocando músicas de animes e outras, me fizeram conhecer a música clássica e me apaixonar. Hoje em dia ouço até ópera. Muito obrigado mesmo e mal posso esperar por mais vídeos com os dois. Grande abraço e que Deus vos abençoe.👏👏👏👏👏👏
stunning guitar work with outstanding keyboard playing
Quel délicieux petit concours entre deux artistes remarquables, nous donnant un aperçu unique des qualités de chaque instrument. Très belle initiative qui devrait être répétée avec un accordéon...
They should invite Aleksandr Hrustevitch with his bayan ! Then things would really get serious!
Asturias (Leyenda) was the song my dad introduced to me that got me into playing guitar, and more specifically the nylon string guitar. I still can't play it today but in all my trying it was what eventually forged my own style and way of playing.
Funny how it was made on piano lol
Listening to Asturias was so delightful, and I'm so glad that you played a long bit not just a few compasses. ❤
Wonderful comparison video. Thanks. Love the Asturias finish 🥰😎
Inversions on guitar do have different fingerings as well as close fingerings, depending on how you approach them.
Exactly!
Well, they also said that glissando on a piano doesnt hurt but it hurts on the guitar, so...
Glissando hurts on piano too@@crazythingshappen-6654
What a pleasure to watch them playing!
Bliss! Two experts of different instruments in battle.
1:30 Love the way this piece is transposed
which piece is it?
yes, which piece is it? please.
@@ahmetsancar8303Greensleeves
What piece is it ... Please tell
Greensleeves
Can we mention Louis XIV in the background?
That shall not be mentioned.
We don’t mention XVI…😱😆
He was a very good guitarist!
Beautiful painting. Painter was Hyacinthe Rigaud
@@captainfinney7396 thanks the old Bob, I mean Bob Devisee !
Not to mention the beginning of the scarlatti piece here started with an open string, whereas majority of the arrangements I have read on the guitar suggest to begin on the 2nd string. Whats even harder is that there are just multiple ways/position to play certain notes, passages, and chords on the guitar depending on what the piece needs. Also, kudos to the guitarist for a well executed tremolo.
Great content btw.
Dois músicos que infelizmente o Brasil nao valoriza como merecem. Meus aplausos pra esse video ❤
Valorizamos sim, brother. Estamos fora da bolha
Thank you for all your videos. I always come back. So many perspectives you provide.
Double trouble! Two straight faced, incredibly talented musicians who are a pleasure to watch and listen to. Please do more together with Fabio.
Its much harder to start guitar honnestly. It takes months to be able to just play the seven basic chords due to the 2 barre chords. Plus as you are the one who makes the notes by touching the strings you stuggle for month with fret buzz, hurting your fingers on steel strings, hitting the wrong strings during arpegio... I think it takes 1 year to be as good as as a 1 month beginer in piano.
I couldn't agree more. I studied pianos for a year when younger, and I am studying guitar now. The beggining of the piano was waaaaay easier than the guitar. Doing stuff over a keyboard is more logical, everything is clear in fron of you. But the fretboard is another stuff, plus the coordination of two hand is harder in the guitar.
This was aweome! It would have been cool if there was one more battle ... "Dueling Banjos"! Love the twin stoic faces!
The emotional outburst at 4:13 was so deserved.
Cara, que encontro espetacular! Ficou top 🎉 congratulations!!!
Oh my goodness! This video is amazing, thank you both for this collaboration!
1:55 I think am opened the tavern door of Whiterun
I knew what I heard
What's the name of that song tho?
@Carlos_3990 doesn't really have a name but search skyrim lute 2
@@Carlos_3990greensleeve,its almost the same as dawn winery song
@@takeshinakazato7497 thank you so much!!
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Guitar, without a doubt! I had a piano teacher once who taught and played a huge number of instruments - piano, guitar, trumpet, accordion, flute, violin, saxophone, etc. He told me the guitar was one of the harder ones, and the piano is relatively easier by comparison. I certainly found it so. I simply could never understand the 'logic' of a fretboard. With the piano, it's all there - laid out, in scales. Plus, you don't get sore fingertips!
haha im the opposite i just never really got piano
Piano maybe seems more accessible for a music beginner but it has next a lot of technical difficulties that you don't find with other instruments. I also find guitar is easy for starters.
Ok go play Rachmaninov lol
@@superpotironI’ve found people get easily discouraged when beginning to learn the guitar due to how hard it is to play a clean note. Overcoming the awkwardness of the fingerings and not muting strings is quite difficult to get used to.
Also, I think classical guitar has this beautiful thing where you're playing three parts at once (base, melody and harmony) and putting that all together when you need both hands just to play one note gives you this appreciation for the interplay between each part. Case and point, I was listening to Chopin's Nocturne No 2 the other day and that is a HARD piece to play, even on piano. Listening to someone play it well on guitar is just... Breathtaking.
I play both not and not very bad. And I can tell you that repetitions in piano are much more difficult. Guitarists use technique shown in video at 1:15 from the first year of education. or 2nd year surely!
Asturias ain't that hard on guitar - I learned it in musical school at 4th or 5th year of education and played it very well. Not a pro ofc, but still ...
What is REALLY hard to play on the guitar is Bach. And as I love Bach most of all I finished playing piano. Polifony is the hardest thing to play on the guitar perfectly.
Glenn Gould has chosen piano - so the choice was obvious for me.
No one learns tremolo on the guitar during first or second year of practice what are you on about. And it's certainly not an easy technique, not when done correctly that is.
@@MrCamille9999 I did. And other students in my school also did. The reason ofc not to play tremolo like a pro with perfect timing, dynamic and fast. The key idea is to develop independence of every finger of the right hand. Tremolo is a good way to practice that even for beginners. Of course, starting very-very clowly. And if a student can, increasing speed after some time.
@@MrCamille9999 I can even remember a piece called 'Malaguena' if I am correct. When you start from playing bass with P-finger and open E as single 8th note, then with triads (bass = melody + other 2 notes with 2 fingers) and then same melody 16th notes - bass + 3 fingers open E. absolutely perfect and easy for beginners. surely you can google this piece.
Go to Fabio's channel. He plays Bach!
@@MrCamille9999 when using a pick, tremolo is learned in the 1st few hours of guitar playing. I play some classical guitar, but am primarily an electric guitarist these days playing various styles but being at home with progressive extreme metal of sorts.
I was trem picking literally on my 1st day of playing the electric guitar, and doing tremolo on a nylon string via "Malaguena" after maybe 20 mins (while already being years into the guitar, but never having done "classical" tremolo). The piano is immeasurably more difficult than the guitar beyond human comprehension.
You guys are both Amazing!! God bless your gift!
Obrigado por melhorar, em muito, o meu dia! Grande abraço aos dois!
Incredible to see the difference, Wish they played together at the end
That song is my lives most beautifull song ever had in my ears introducéd to me by the Doors, then heard the classical guitar version 1000 times. Just digg it a lot.
song name pls
These two together are amazing🙂
Viva aos músicos Brasileiros, matando um Leão por dia e mostrando habilidade!
I would say if comparing playing same complexity music on Guitar and Piano, Guitar is way more difficult and can have more detailes, tons and feelings in the music. But on the other side, the most advanced of Piano music is way more complex than what Guitar can play. They are both great instruments !
Well said.
It's was of course a joke on the video (I mean playing a given piece on 2 different instruments) but some people here took it at face value. Playing Asturias on triangle is impossible so that would mean that triangle is harder than guitar ?!!
Meu professor de violão do conservatório musical de Tatuí sempre dizia: use a técnica para mostrar a MÚSICA, não música para mostrar a técnica. Vinheteiro MARAVILHOSO, a propósito.
immediately subscribed to both your channels guys. just beautiful
At the Piano you mostly have to sit politely, while on the guitar you can jump up and down, roll over, or lay down while still playing....
Só hoje que vi no TH-cam.
Vocês dois juntos é uma dupla perfeita 👏👏👏.
Muita saúde e prosperidades para vocês 💪💪🌻🌻
That is a guitar with a gorgeous sound and a skilled player.
A maioria dos comentários não são de Brasileiros.
Parabéns!!!!
Muita qualidade obrigado pelo excelente vídeo.
Samuel
Enjoyed watching this. Good thoughts on comparing abilities with instruments and difficulty levels...plus we got to hear good music. Thanks to you both.
Thanks Robert!
Saludos desde Panamá, siempre excelente…
Saludos from São Paulo!