SDHQ's Twin-Turbo Eco-Raptor - /TUNED
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- The Raptor is an amazing truck worthy of an amazing engine. While the standard 6.2L mill is no slouch, it's far from high tech and eats gas like no other. This is the Raptor review Ford doesn't want you to see: the Super Duty Headquartters Ecoboost-powered Raptor.
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Now everyone is pissed that they come with a Ecoboost 💀
Kinda ironic
For real lol
I love my Eco boost. Iv raced all of my buddies (Chevy, GMC, Dodge, Toyota, and Nissan) and none of their trucks even come close to the power of mine. Not to mention, it pulls like a diesel. Ford did really good with these motors.
Great Video as always
Excellent review guys! details of build and pros and cons show how much Ford missed out on a ecoboost offroad market.
I'd definitely like to see Ford experiment with a smaller turbo diesel engine and put the current hp and torque numbers to shame.
What pisses me off is that they don't have mini-diesel F150s, they have Rangers with diesels in Europe.
RacFuhk Europe and else where don't have as strict emission control on diesel as we do in the US. New diesels in the US have so much emission add on and diesel exhaust fluid usage which requires expansive maintenance, higher operating cost. The additional EPA related equipment also make new diesel less reliable and choking on power. Only in the US, diesel costs more than regular unleaded gasoline.
All those factors make very little economical sense to own small diesel powered vehicles in the US.
A diesel powered 1/2 ton pickup sounds so sweet, until you get to your first oil change to find out it costs around $100 to $150 to perform. And don't forget to keep an eye on the DEF level. It's annoying.
RacFuhk
...and Australia
ami2evil ...and Canada!
daedrick
..and Iraq.
Just kidding, fuck Iraq
I always talk crap on V6 engines, but i love the 3.5 eco, its got more power and torque than the 6.2L. Dont get me wrong that 6.2 is a beast when supercharged, but to have a more powerful V6... i never thought the day would come
+legit omelette I just don't like the v6 sound. Never heard a good sounding v6, straight ones are nice as fuck though. Hell, even 3 cylinders sounds better in my ears than a v6.
love the close caption in the middle of the screen
Awesome truck guys!
Anyone else read the title as Egorapter instead of Eco Rapter?
No?
Just me?
Ok.
hmmm this tastes like egoraptor
No - you might want to reread the title?
If it's gas milage a person wants, they shouldn't bur the raptor.
Don't buy a truck at all if u want good mpg
yup, I'd rather be tarring ass through the desert getting 10 miles per gallon than being a stinking hippie that pays 8 dollars for a starbucks coffee and drives a gay smart car.
WiIdbiII hell yah!
WiIdbiII fuel efficiency is always beneficial, even in race cars. Just think of why Audi went to TDI for Le Mans. Considering the Raptor was designed with endurance races such as the Baja 1000 in mind, and the ecoboost V6 has been used to great success in that race, it isn't so ridiculous to consider fuel efficiency when designing an endurance race car.
joeracer302 Fuel Efficiency means Nothing to a person who is willing to spend 60 to 80 thousand dollars on a Truck as a Toy, (A rich Guy, Not me). Every time i see a Raptor it is either pulling into a gas station or out of one. But if Money was no object to me, I'd have a couple of them.
great review
Looked like you were at Sycamore Creek. Love that place after it rains. :]
The 6.2 is a damn good motor, I'm not on this whole ecoboost bandwagon. Count me out on the new raptor, not driving a V6. Now if they come out with a 5.0 ecoboost i'll be in on that.....
+TheHardcoreLife or just twin turbo the 6.2... for now, the 3.5 with direct and port injection, completely forged internals and the boost cranked all the way up is good for me. Did i mention it makes 500+ HP and an assload more torque from the factory, with a warranty?
If you crank the boost up you won't have a warranty anymore.
You do know the new Raptor comes with a beefed up 3.5L running more boost safely than the current generation, all with Ford's warranty right?
+OneOneNineFilms I'm waiting to see how long it takes for people to start blowing these motors. Raptor owners always take shut to far and break stuff then blame ford. bent frames from jumping like they are monster trucks. only a mater of time until guys blow these engines in the desert. Does anyone even know if turbo engines perform well in off road conditions?
Rally cars have been using forced induction since the 90s. They tested the 3.5 specifically down in Baja and it completed the event with a record time to go along with it.
A Ford Lightning is a "hilarious excuse" of a sport truck??? Have you seen those things on the drag strip?!
yeah that kind of pissed me off a little when he said that, those trucks arent even in the same class to compare it to a raptor! those are track trucks, obviously you wouldnt take that shit off-roading .
possumsuprisetonite I don't get the point of a track truck though, isn't it kind of an oxymoron? That'd be like building up a miata for rock crawling.
dpla9752 yeah theyre kind of an oxymoron when you think about it lol, but still pretty awesome. i remember the first time i saw a f-150 lightning run the strip, holy fucking shit i could feel the revving deep in mah balls even from a good distance. i think "drag-trucks" fits them better than "track-trucks", i didnt think that one through too well lol. side note though, have you seen those civic wagons built to go offroading, shit i remember seeing one in a magazine with fucking tank tracks on it!
True I guess, and a offroad civic? haha sounds interesting for sure, I'll look it up!
where are you going to find an American turbodiesel V6 to put in a raptor that you can use on public roads in the US?
You can install the Raptor transfer case control module and the raptor 4wd selector switch for less than 200 total and gain the ability to lock the rear in 2wd , atleast below ~20 or 30 mph
Okay I understand why Ford is using turbos in all its new engines. More power with (arguably) less fuel consumption. Fair enough. What I don't understand is why they just don't keep the 5.0 or 6.2 V8 and add a duel turbo to that! The 2017 Raptor has a V6, if you're buying a truck like the Raptor it's likely not your daily driver and you more than likely don't care if you save an extra 3MPG over the previous year's V8...
Nick A. if i had either motor i would not be able to keep my foot out of it (I drive an 04 f350 v10 4.56 gears in rear end= 13mpg hw or 8 not being nice in the city) when you cant keep your foot out of it gas mileage sucks and 3 mpg makes a bigger difference than you think. assuming the tank is 23 gallons at 16mpg you get 368 miles per tank at 13 you get 299 miles which with a gas price of 2.98 with 16mpg it costs $186.25 per 1k miles with 13mpg $229.23 per 1k miles so assuming you put on 10k a year as a daily driver thats $1862.5 per year in gas vs $2292.3 per year
there's more to ecoboost than throwing a turbo at an engine. the ecoboost engines have direct injection which allows them to run much leaner air fuel ratios off load which saves fuel. also with direct injection you can run higher compression ratios without the worry of detonation so you can run 87 octane. All of this adds up to less money spent on fuel. to do this to a 5.0 you would have to rework the cylinder heads and make a whole new computer to run that engine. People like the 5.0 the way it is and to see Ford change the design that has been around forever would probably piss a lot of people off.
+supercowmoo3 The thing is the EcoBoost does not get better fuel economy. A Ram 1500 with a Hemi 5.7 gets 15/22. A EcoBoost Explorer Sport gets 16/22.
These Raptor Trucks would be Better with a manual. Not the manual shift autos, But a true 6speed manual. I think that is one of the rams downfalls
Yep, just Tuned my 11 FX2 Sport EB and she is at 370wrhp and 516lb at the wheels.
If I were to guess at the crank/flywheel, probably 430ish HP, and close to 600lb. Very satisfying outrunning a Camaro SS to 60mph in a 5,800lb truck :D
nice content!
I've watched this a few times, and something about a v6 in a truck just doesnt sound right. Like, the literal sound of it. V6's belong in cars and minivans and small pickups. Nobody buys a fullsize for its mpg.
William Chemini I've had lifted ford trucks before, right now I'm even driving a 7.3, the fact that I used to have (sold it for a G35) a stanced ride doesn't mean I dont know what I'm talking about. I enjoy most all types of vehicles. Have fun driving a truck with a minivan engine though...
+Zac Price buddy my eco boost puts out near 400 hp and almost the same in torque, fully loaded with tools and my crew, going 140km down the highway with 11.5l/per 100km ...eat it lol
+will pugh but it sounds like a minivan on steroids. id much rather my pickups sound like proper pickups, and without boost lag. you wont get the same torque from a boosted v6 than you do from a v8. you have absolutely NOTHING in the low end until those turbos wake up.
William Chemini maybe on the highway in perfect conditions, I personally know a few people with these that say their v8's got better city mpg because the low end torque was able to move the truck around at lower rpm easier.
I guess I'll add to this. I have a coworker with a 2010 Chevy pickup. 4wd, loaded, big v8. he gets 16-17 mpg in town, and over 30mpg on the highway. Cylinder deactivation FTW.
they spent $80,000 on that eco raptor and it saves you $1300 a year in gas. sounds like a stupid investment
All that and no cage! Incredible.
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Matt....you know you're a cool dude...but seriously? Bashing the Syclone and Lightning?
That's what I'm saying. He is biased thought, he said he owns a raptor.
He is saying that they are useless as a truck (off-road)
MrForza98
Can't really argue with that fact seeing as no one has taken them off road and filmed it....but I'm pretty damned sure a syclone and typhoon would be very formidable to a brand new raptor with little more than dirt tires and some soggy suspension parts from a lower trim blazer or pick up.
why not just slap some turbos on a normal raptor and a louder exhaust then you get a eco velociraptor v8
I would love to slap some turbos on a raptor!!!😍👍👍👍
MarkTheAmazing so like the Hennessey velocerapter 800tt
appreciate it man
Say what ever you want, that this is BAD ASS !!
Wow you can save 5k in fuel! You just have to spend 30k more!!
$80,000 to save 5mpg...? Not worth it. I'll stick to my 6.2
80,000 to save 5 mpg, and create a better off road experience. If you have the money, why not.
Def not worth it fuck that , for 25-30k more you know what you could do to ur 6.2..
Chad Lebre Make it explode because it's already putting out all that it can reliably?
GREAT JOB GUYS SDHQ !!!! I wish that ford would of come out with that type of truck for the off roaders in the USA AN ALL OVER THE WORLD
Matt filmed this in Fountain Hills, Arizona in the desert off the b line highway. I go dirt bike riding there all the time
First off he said the owner has 80k INTO the truck , it's not worth 80k. Whatever the cost of this truck is , its not worth it. Raptor is like 45-50k , I see them used all day for 30-35k. Why would I buy a v6 and send 20-30k more vs modded out the 6.2? Makes no sense. This V6 sounds like lame compared to the 6.2..
The guy wanted a ecoboost raptor. Ford doesnt offer one so he had one made. When you have the money you really dont care about the cost.
Supercharge the 6.2, and then compare the ecoboost. You could have 7 grand in an entire supercharger kit, versus the 20 to 30 grand you would have into the ecoboost. Plus, you would make way more power with a supercharged 6.2
I understand the point of it. Somebody should make a turbo kit for the ecoboost, maybe some bigger turbos, then I'm interested. But, you don't get that much better milage when you drive that way.
Chad Lebre It may not be valued at $80k to you, but she wanted the truck THEIR way, and they made it their way. The truck is worth at least 80k to them. It’d worth 80k to me as well...
Ok glader lol! It's a f150 with fender flares calm down big guy. I rather have a lifted Jeep rubicon with a 6.4 superchargered anyday of the week than a Eco Puke!
lower sycamore creek, my favorite off-road spot! i've watched so many of your other videos, it's weird to me to watch one where I'm familiar with the location. would have loved to see it go up the widow maker (where the jeep was coming down)
It's metaphorical. A proper drive in such a car is a deeply connective thing. You do feel that the car is with (or against) you with real conciousness. You can feel its mood, how it feels about what you're doing. A good car will talk to you, communicate intimately with the deepest parts of your mind. In the semi-delusional high of adrenaline that follows, you can genuinely believe it is a concious beast.
Of course, it's an inanimate object, but a car does have the ability to ascend beyond that.
Ummm $80k, seriously... There must be better ways to get there from here than that.... This thing is more than $30k more than a raptor... why be annoyed? Buy a $7500 supercharger and never look back... put the extra $20k in your wallet.
mpeugeot Matt has the money to buy the raptor which he is in love with but he hates the gas mileage and like he said at the end of the video plus a few other things is why he is annoyed
+mpeugeot They basically did it because they could. The next one comming out will have the Ecoboost from the factory.
Who else thought it would be a twin-turbo 6.2?
Hennessey offers a twin turbo 6.2, the "Velociraptor 800." That build costs $150,000, because you have to literally re-do the drivetrain from the engine block up, including the transmission and transfer case.
You my friend are a genious!! Well said!
I don't get the Raptor thing. You can take a stock anything and make it twice the truck of a Raptor with the extra money that it cost.
DOUCHEBAGS! lol But i did buy the FX4 package cause of all the options, I will soon to be making it up to par with the raptor though
Because it's a personal statement. Like how people get built JKs or Rubicons but never actually take them offroad. They think it looks cool and don't really care if it's functional besides bragging rights.
snivilous Good point. I gusee I am just tired of seeing all of the over hype. I think the truck looks good and is better then other trucks off the showroom flore. I just fill like most of the comments are from people that have never drivin off road in there life.
762Coolhand I guess it was Ford's way of making a truck "off road ready" without voiding the warranty.
What don't u get? U must not get the whole Roush and Hennessey thing either. I rather build my car on my own personally because it will cost less. But people get it because that's what they like. Let people be homboi.
eco boost is a fine engine!!!! But were driving a raptor! we don't want to sound like a fairy driving down the road! speed don't mean shit if it sounds like a prius going down the road!
+Dazed Viking Ford can always put their fake engine sounds in this one too lmao
Great.... now i want one!
ahhh man the old 12 valve cummins and the 7.3 power stroke are two of my favorite diesel motors! and ok brotha i will check ou tthe video
but it's a V6.... meh. put a twin turbo on a 5.4 (6.2 would be overkill, unless you drag race)
You can do that to your own truck. But Ford will not do it. They have something called "CAFE" to worry about.
Ha wish I had a truck. Wtf is CAFE?
Also, the 1400+ horsepower AMS Omega Nissan GTR is "just a V6"
Oh dont even start. We're talking Domestics, not racecars. We all very well know that not only a v8 can produce big numbers, but when its an american truck, you put a v8 in it. Simple as that.
Zac Price Corporate average fuel economy, basically the average fuel economy of all of a manufacturers cars put together. By the way, many if not most manufcaturers will soon be switching from v8's to turbocharged v6's as the cafe restrictions get stricter. In fact, 90% of news cars in the next 5-10 years will be turbocharged. Just got an article from ASE about it.
what a waste of money. buy a raptor, throw a set of twins at it, open ring gap, and Walla you have an easy and reliable 600 horse. and with the money you saved, go buy another raptor. you can't buy brains.
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jrstow86 yeah but if you really have brains it's viola/voilà
jrstow86 raptors are about 60 k new add the two turbos, exhaust, intake and a few other things then you are at 70k. Buy another raptor you are at 130k. Somehow your math doesnt quite check out.
+Wolf Spritzer dude Raptor's are NOT 60k. They're around 45k for a used 14
Yeah $80,000 is more reasonable than a $18,000 engine swap
i'm not a truck sort of guy, but i would definitely buy this one...its a complete package of performance, looks, driveability, presence, etc
Thought about getting both but my garage is now full with a Rally Fighter, '13 Audi S8, '11 335iS & A RZR XP 900. Maybe one day a spot will open up.
But it sounds like a Nissan
lol you want to look like a jerk in a big loud truck?
albboy96 he didn't say that. He said it sounded like a Nissan. There's a certain deep growl that a v8 has that you can not get out of the eco boost engines.
You CANNOT compare a raptor to a lightning, cyclone, or the srt ram.
Thanks man :)
I love my truck and I'll drive till it can't go anymore, but after him I might think about getting one of these
I can't get past the horrible sound it makes.... sounds lIke a Honda civic with a 10 inch diameter tailpipe. Very disappointed in ford.
How does this sound like a four cylinder? Thats impossible.
+Bobby Loomis Ford puts fake engine sounds in some of their higher trim F-150's, maybe that's what they'll do with this one lmao
Raptor is my favourite truck ever. that is what a truck should look like, no ifs ands and buts.
The paint scheme with the green Raptor logo and the leaves look really nice.
Interesting idea, maybe something for Ford SVT to consider in the future... Ecoboost Raptors.
You don't get that either, but you don't need it with this truck, it has its own tune that works very well.
Nice truck
Super cool
Would love to see an updated version of this against the new raptor
It didn't get smoked at the track either, it still outran the Corvette ('91 6spd ) in the quarter mile (14.36 for Corvette, 13.5 for Syclone).
And that's pretty much what people love the Sylone for, the straight-line performance especially off the line. The AWD, automatic, and torque output lends itself well in the real world when sitting at a stoplight with the other guy ready to go. I'd say people like them because their utility (bed), AWD, and are sleepers that surprise a lot of racers: cool.
Anyway that looks fun as hell
thats depends. theres a few more things u have to swap out than just the motor, such as the radiator and plumbing that goes with is not to mention you need the computer and wiring harness that goes with it just to name a couple
You can lock the rear diff in 2x4 on a regular F150, I do it with mine all the time(2012 XLT 4x4).
awesome trucks. I would love to go out and play with one like that
Bad ass truck no doubt
It gets into the vents and the nooks and crannies of the interior and stays there.
Wading it through many rivers of Michigan for a couple of days (one thing I will say about Ford, at least they let you play) kinda fucks them up.
No, it's not worth much cash, probably less than £1500. But it's worth the world to me, and I love it to bits. It's unrelenting, indefatigable, enduring. It's not sleek, or fast, or cushty, but it's utterly amazing that a 40 year old car can still bring you the world.
**Drool** Loving my 2012 Lariat Ecoboost...but that raptor eco is seexxxxyyyyyy!
This is a very nice truck.
fords are the bomb man! I love ford! there great!
What I would like to see them come out with is a twin turbo 6.2L. Now that would be badass!
Flexibility of power and fuel economy. If it was just all-out power then I'd say you've got the golden ticket.
My 2012 sits stock 420 torque simply dropping an intake/exhaust/Livernois tune puts the ecoboost over 500 on paper (around 480 to the wheels).
I've been saying they need to put an ecoboost in them for the get go if they had an ecoboost it would be my next truck hands down.
I know what my next car is. I think I am in love
why don't people understand this? The conversion isn't $40,000 more than a standard Raptor. I say very clearly in the video that this particular truck, in addition to the engine swap, has $25,000 in aftermarket stuff on it. A "stock" Raptor with this engine would only be $5,000 more than a standard Raptor, so you'd make it up in 3 years.
People really need to listen more carefully. The reason this truck is $80,000 is because it has $25,000 worth of suspension, skids, bumpers, lights, wheels, and tires on it. An Eco-boost swapped Raptor without all the extra stuff costs $55,000, or just $5,000 more than a stock raptor. That means that in under 4 years you're ahead of the game on gas, AND you get more power than stock.
"Ecoboost" covers all of Ford's turbocharged engines. This one is a 3.5L V6 TT
So Matt, what do you enjoy more this or the velociraptor? Not whats best, what did you like, if you could say why would be great as well.
there is. It's a tne uprgrade
it's called the velociraptor 800 twinturbo
I've seen a few Raptors out there at Sycamore Creek where this was filmed, but none are actually using them as they were intended. Must be hard to do that and remember how much it cost haha
haha it sure is, enjoy your build.
Is the new suspension that they put on the raptor better than the stock fox suspension that was on it before?
Whoa whoa whoa, the Syclone/Typhoon's aren't "jokes." They were faster than the Corvettes of the time, and even today are being made into track-monsters with HUGE turbo set-ups.
I like how theres chevy ads on a ford video
This shop is 2 minutes from my house. How cool!
For a full size, 5 seater, 4 door luxury saloon, a top speed of 145 and a 0-60 of 7 seconds was bloody impressive in 1972. By the 80s, that was still massively impressive, in fact, pretty much the same car still existed. Even in the 90s, in the XJ40, the V12 was still proving to be a very quick engine for that car.
Nowadays, a turbo 4 pot in a lightweight hatchback with modern aerodynamics would match it.
As I've said before, I'm not female. I don't know where you're getting that idea at all.
I cited the actual source of the figure, so I'm not sure how I'm stretching that. Though you are right, most other figures are between the 4.8-5.2 mark to 60mph. I was illustrating it's maximum potential.
well said !
not knocking on your truck or anything dude....saw your comments to the other guy....i was just stating the difference is pretty big between the two....congrats on paying for your own truck...deff a great thing to have no car payment to worry about....and further more i do love the old 90's model z71's.....great trucks when ya take care of them
i like the syclone yo
ps. yes i do own both a 2012 Ecoboost FX4 and a 2002 Lightning. Honestly both are seriously awesome trucks
couldn't agree more
they did reviews on the power wagon and its more of a bulkier slower truck that isn't meant for the street but the clearance is there
The GMC syclone is a beast. It makes 290hp from a stock 4.3 with a single turbo on it.
nice well id just put charger on a 6.2l but thats definitely works too .. though i think the ram rebel and silverado reaper give more for the money rebels not as customized but its cheaper and more for daily driving. reaper is more expensive but its way more in-depth modified plus theyre all supercharged.
Does the Raptor has some sort of limited slip, or just the locking differential ?
we didn't say it was. The lightning is bad at ALL truck stuff. The only thing it's good at is going fast, but it's not even that fast (in stock form). The Raptor is a truck that is good at truck stuff, not trying to be a sports car and failing at it.
Is that a bad ass looking green Jetta in the background?
The matte black truck, is armored and built in Canada! In case some people didnt know.
LOL I WAS AT SYCAMORE WHEN YOU GUYS SHOT THIS I WAS IN THE BULE FJ ONE OF YOU SHOT VIDEO OF ME ON YOUR PHONE IF YOU GET A CHANCE PLZ POST IT THANKS AND BY THE WAY THAT RAPTOR IS SICK
The 2013 interior has been updated and now has the Daily Driver comfort & look. My RF will be my daily driver and the build is almost complete. I will be posting videos on my channel of everything I can think of & suggestions sent to me.
Street legal Daily Driver Baja Racer! Thats a mouth full :-D