Thanks for the reminder of off-road use only! I will only use this on my personal roads that I paid for through an involuntary forfeiture of part of each paycheck. Oh wait…
Don't worry, if it's developed to that extent, your not going to be interested in driving on the highway. If your not running the FIA inlet restrictor the map on the Pectel system will destroy the motor even with 109 octane. Magneti marelli make a reliable ECU that also has good definition for centre and rear diff. control on the original Prodrive/Ricardo/ Dave Lapworth box and rear diff. Mines an old 1994 shell with 1998-2002 WRC mechanicals. Don't bother with the Cosworth electronics, virtually no one has the software, though Cosworth engines are still competitive and reliable. (Min of 400 competitive miles between rebuilds) if you keep the revs below 8500rpm. Use 9000 too often and its done in 100 miles or less. At 27k per refresh it's an expensive season, even if you don't crash too badly on most events🙄😔
Isn't the change made in the tuner software and not directly the accessport? The unlocked accessport would be useless if the tuner used locked software
@@Smeedia wow definitely keep us updated, I already was having my mind blown on how much it’s going to fix my engine again and now this time around I’m looking at at least an additional $2k just because of Cobb.
It’s definitely possible, especially in this day and age where practically everything is hackable due to hacking software being readily available. Just take one guy who is fed up 😄
Thanks again Tanner , you are an asset the Subaru community. It doesn’t seem like there are many options for us VA chassis owners. Hopefully time will fix that.
It really is a shame that there aren't more stand alone options for the VA chassis but after running the Motec m142 in my 2016 wrx for a couple years now I have to admit that I'm wildly impressed. Pretty expensive but the engine control is excellent without loosing oem functionality. I would encourage anyone with a 2015+ to give them a look if they are wanting to go the stand alone route
I'm running a Motec M1 from John Reed Racing on my 2007 Sti. All OEM functions are retained with my setup, for those that are wondering. Plus I've got the flexibility to run failsafes (coolant pressure, oil pressure, knock, ect) in addition to being able to watch everything (egt by cylinder, ect). It's a big investment, but totally worth it. And one can usually get 85% of the Investment back selling the units second hand if need be. Just my experience
I love your mad scientist vibe bro.. Thank you so much for all the work I know you put into providing all this info.. We appreciate all that you have figuredout in your extensive research
I've wanted a WRX for a long time now, still do but my dream is deferred due to kids. One day I WILL have one. I wouldn't do nearly half the stuff you do but I love the content and learning. You're doing the community a huge service with vids like these. Awesome work
@@coolcarenvy that’s cool. I totally could do it with a two year old but I’m about to have 4 kids next month at home. It’s a little tight for now. I will have my WRX some day if Subaru doesn’t mess up that var too.
Currently leaning towards standalone, my tuner suggested it as if there’s a cel code that throws car won’t be able to tell me if there’s something else wrong with the car and I ain’t wanting to break anything, thanks for the video!
Before all my fellow va fa20 and ej owners go out and buy a stand-alone please keep in mind that alternative options are being worked out at the moment, we will have an opensource solution in the near future. And this is gonna happen in 1 or 2 ways. 1. Opensource from scratch 2. Cobb source code (either exact replica, or heavily based on access tuner pre green speed)
This! These are just options for those who have bene looking or for those that wanted more info. But open source and work arounds are coming out and IMO are still the most viable options over a stand alone
@@jamesj8348 it’s a conglomerate of people apart of the community who have the relevant knowledge and skills to work on the software aspect. For now if your build consists of items that will now trigger cel’s or if you have a flex fuel kit, your best bet is to either get ecutek, or wait. If you have the money then stand alone is fine as long as you’re okay with going that direction. However a little patience will not only save you money but also hassle from having to keep moving over to other tuning platforms as your build progresses. In the mean time I highly recommend getting a tactrix cable as you will need that once opensource is a available
@@ps3alphagamer12 thanks man, clutch is getting replaced this weekend so I figured that'll be a good time to add all my mods. But I guess I'll just have to be patient and install everything while the motor is back in. It's all been so overwhelming, I ordered all my parts and shortly after cobb announced the update..
Just wanted to give people a heads up, after talking to several different reputable tuners in my area, in general most if not all previous versions of downpipe/jpipes are tunable HOWEVER they will throw cels. The only one that is out there right now is the new GrimmSpeed's V2 jpipe that is said not to cause any cels. Just had one local guy get tuned and said no problems at all with it. And from what I've been told by several Subaru techs if you do get a code (P0420) you can run an 02 spacer/defouler. One tuner did confirm it does not mess with tuning either but could not comment any further. I haven't had much luck finding people who are actually running one to see if it does help.
This wasn't mentioned in the video, but for 2015+ STi's with Haltech systems, a company called 14point7solutions makes a plug and play adapter for the Elite 2500. Just wanted to put that out there
for all my broke boi 01-05 wrx friends, haltech also makes the HT-055174. its a direct replacement and doesnt even need an adaptor. Not sure if its missing key features or other reasons its cheaper but its $1570 instead of $2240
Based on my research (and it’s extensive because I’ve been planning out a stand-alone build for a year) there is NO aftermarket ECU which will handle emissions monitor checks or be passed by an OBD2 emissions test. Some aftermarket ECUs can be connected to the OBD2 port for canbus communication so something like a diagnostic scan-tool will still pick up codes and data pids. But if you live in an OBD2 emissions state the car will not pass because even if a scan tool can communicate with the stand-alone it won’t report any completed emissions monitors.
thank you Tanner... you really care about the community! you're the F'in man!!! lol seriously, before I even got to researching these things, I get the notification and see the title. your channel ALWAYS makes my day haha awesome info as always!
im new to the subaru world learning the system and controls its new to me coming from the toyota world, by the absolutely love the build the 6 banger is beautiful watching you go though the challenges is very informative for that and other issues
Also Hydra 2.7 if you can find one 😁 def a little dated but great if your trying to tune yourself! Lots of features and really good support from element tuning
Any recommendation for a 6 cylinder swap to an EG or EZ like you have? Would you choose the same standalone ECU for your build if you could do it again? Thanks for all the info in this video!
Hopefully you can find some information for us that deal with emissions regarding standalones I would love to have rolling anti lag 😩 I live in a emission state I was thinking on switching to ecutek for now atleast before they do the Access tuner changes because I think obd2 functionality still works. This came at such a bad timing I’m literally a month away from putting in my 800 hp engine 🤦🏽♂️
I think installing a standalone is painful and expensive but then you have to freedom to run whatever you want in the future. I guess the big question is, will any of these pass a plug in emissions test via OBD2 port
Great info, Tanner! Every ECU is compatible if you are willing to make a new harness for it hahahah (unless you are DIT) I'm getting a Fueltech FT550 on my 2005 WRX Wagon(wich I'm swapping to a 2007 WRX engine) Keep up the good work, greetings from Brazil!
Just a heads up there is a company making third part plug and play adapters for the 2011-2014wrx & 2011-2018sti to run a haltech elite 2500. This also includes a base map. The company is called 14point7solutions. Also they believe they will still work on 19+ STi but haven’t had a car to test and confirm on. Can send you the link if you want to know more
@@Smeedia I’m now more curious about this though, I reached out to the owner who I talked to previously to see what canbus features are all supported and if and if any are left out
I got really luck I have a guy pretty close to me that specializes in subies and PnP and standalones and he has a really good deal for me. Like $4200 for haltech and the sensors needed and dyno tuned.
@@Smeedia thanks for the reply dude your the best ! 🙌🏻…. I have a Cobb AP right now works good but with the whole new Cobb update I doubt tuners will be able to tune mine aswell so I might need to go another route trying to make big power one day 🤘🏼
just need someone to boom slang a halter 2500 so we can figure out what exactly is retained and what needs to be be manually wired in. also if things that are wired in already via stock if we can assign them. for example the tagv left for flex signal.
Well I have the boomslang in my hands.. I’m just trying to justify ordered the ecu blind and not knowing what is actually going to not work and what is… ya know ?
Great video as always- I have a 2012 wrx, is my best option at this point to go open source? I have flex fuel kit, catless, TGV and secondary air deletes
Say you were building karma right now instead of last year... You've got the 1300cc injectors, made fuel lines/dual pump in tank, you have the full $800 Cobb flexfuel kit and now you have to decide if you're going to work with the castrated Access Port/ comply with emissions (evap, charcoal canister, tgv, cated dp) and just run a 93octane map/ have the second map for ethanol.... Or do you say fudge it $$$ and go standalone. Where I'm at now, I was building "The Karma specialrecipe" with +2mm rods minus the rotated turbo and AMS intake manifold... But instead of the BC valve train in karma I have ferrea valve train/tomei poncams and ported heads. I've only got an FP Blue, flexfuel was so easy last month I literally just wanted to see how far I can push a stock location JB turbo with a mild cam and porting. I think I'm tapping out on e85 for now/ just enjoy it as a headache free 93 octane street car... The extra $ + inconvenience of checking ethanol content at the pump like it's 2011 again and switching maps or $$$ standalone and find a tuner comfortable with whatever you have.
Personally I'd say fudge it and get the standalone, if I'm already in that deep I'd just send it and do everything proper 🙏 think you'd be happier long term with full functionality
Hey! How is working with haltech ecu? I am building an rx7 with a chevy 350. I will be building the harness. Any thoughts, recommendations, tips, tricks? Complaints?
This is a good general guide! Would a standalone make a 5EAT to 5MT swap easier? Asking because my legacy is auto, and I'm trying to find the easy way to swap (and a new car isn't an answer because that would be cheating)
@@Smeedia this might be my (albeit more expensive) ticket to my dream setup with a DCCD! And better tunability! And since my car is an 05 LGT, I don't have a lot of CANBUS stuff to worry about (steering wheel controls don't exist, except for the sport shift, and wheel speed sensors being CAN might be more). Gonna look more into it! Thanks!
SO MUCH Great info here! Thank you as always for guiding the Subi community in the right direction 🙌🙌 Any standalone &/or plug-&-play for LGT or Forester XT?
@@Smeedia going to use 1050 cc for primary and 2000cc for secondary. I'm trying to hit 35psi boost at 3500rpm aiming for that 800 hp at that rpm and stupid trq
I couldn't help but notice the only cars not mentioned...11-14. Any information on those cars? Just trying to figure out what route to go to with my build.
As far as cost goes I saw that mega squirt makes a pretty cheap non plug and play ecu and harness for my 04 sti. It is $360 but my question is would this be a cheaper option in the end if I am already having my engine torn apart for a rebuild? Link is $1600 so as long as labor installing a wiring harness isn’t over a grand do you think that is a viable cheap option? I just don’t know much about ecu’s and as long as I can tune it and it has launch control and flat foot shifting I’m good.
I'm currently stuck in no-mans land, too many mods to stick with Cobb but not really there for standalone on the stock bottom end. Open source doesn't seem to be the answer for speed density/flex fuel/ ect. Either. Might have to drop coin on the haltech 2500 elite pnp unless my tuner can work magic.
Just the content i need to hear brother💪, just when im about to continue my build, so I spoke with my tuner he told me to stand by on buying more parts, so theyre trying to find out a solution to tune it right in order to use the tgv, e85 air pump delete and all that crap cobb made it complicated to us...🤞
What I've found out sofar for us GD sti guys 04-06 tgvs are side feed injector rails/ this is a problem since the tgv deletes are also top feed fuelrail conversions... The TGV sensor is identical to the TPS sensors, should be able to plug in 2 spare TPS sensors and bam the check engine light should stay off/ I'm going as far as milling dummy flanges to weld on to the aftermarket tgv deletes in the stock location. Thoughts anyone?
Best thing to do is talk to your tuner instead of buying the first thing you see. The tuner will help you more than the internet and even smeedia Edit: no offense smeedia
Hi appreciate the content and love the channel but this has me confused. Is it possible to get 330whp with a Cobb access port on a 2016 sti without egr delete ect or will I have to look elsewhere thanks
@@Smeedia so there is no haltech ecm's for 11-14? OR there's just no plug & play options? OR there is no canbus connections? you should make a separate vid for us 11-14 wrx/sti peeps cuz i know there's TONS of us!!
hey bro cheers for the video, would you know what ecus would apply to my year Subaru ? its a weird year and model I cant seem to much information about them on the net. its a - 2007 Impreza s-gt manual hatchback narrow body. a lot of places on the net don't even say they done this shape in 2007 so it confuses me abit
I get stand alones are really good but there is still open source which I have been using on my sweedish cars for over 10 years. Can you cover what cables/programs work with subarus? I'm still really new to this platform
2005 STI drivetrain in a GC8 RS shell - from Haltech, is the Elite 2500 my only option? Not able/worth using the “lesser” models (Eg Elite 1500)? And any thoughts on AEM v LinkG4?
Tanner, I need some help bro.. my '05 Outback XT motor is done. I bought a jdm ej20x to swap on, but it's dual AVCS. The swap seems to work using the jdm block/heads along with the USDM Intake manifold/ turbo and Exhaust manifold. All sensors/switches plug in except the exhaust AVCS sensors, which people leave unplugged. The thing is, my car came modified and tuned for a catless DP, CAI and Grinspeed Boost Controller; however, I was never given its tune or Access Port, it was probably open source. Now I'm afraid to swap the jdm motor and damage it due to those existing mods on my car. I heard iwire makes a merge kit to control the jdm exhaust AVCS sensors, but I'd need a jdm ECU. What a headache man.. What do you recommend I do? Do I have any options or should I return the motor while I still can? Thank in advance!
So when you are referring to ej25 is the ej257 in that category or am i mistaken? I have a built ej257 sti engine that should hold 500 hp and my goal is 330/350 awhp would i need a standalone for that or
Question: I was wondering if your push to start button still works and if directly wired to the keyless access CM or wired directly to the standalone? I sent a message on IG as well. Thank you!
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Thanks for the reminder of off-road use only! I will only use this on my personal roads that I paid for through an involuntary forfeiture of part of each paycheck. Oh wait…
Gotta CYA now adays 🤣😅
@@Smeedia “BUY MY CRYPTO!!! *this is not financial advice”
@@Smeedia Not saying that’s what you’re doing, that’s just what I think of for “influencers” covering their ass haha
Don't worry, if it's developed to that extent, your not going to be interested in driving on the highway.
If your not running the FIA inlet restrictor the map on the Pectel system will destroy the motor even with 109 octane.
Magneti marelli make a reliable ECU that also has good definition for centre and rear diff. control on the original Prodrive/Ricardo/ Dave Lapworth box and rear diff.
Mines an old 1994 shell with 1998-2002 WRC mechanicals.
Don't bother with the Cosworth electronics, virtually no one has the software, though Cosworth engines are still competitive and reliable.
(Min of 400 competitive miles between rebuilds) if you keep the revs below 8500rpm. Use 9000 too often and its done in 100 miles or less. At 27k per refresh it's an expensive season, even if you don't crash too badly on most events🙄😔
@@Smeedia ez30 ecu
Would love to see a market open up for "jailbroken" or "unlocked" Accessports 👀
Isn't the change made in the tuner software and not directly the accessport? The unlocked accessport would be useless if the tuner used locked software
I belive some are working on this or something similar already
@@Smeedia wow definitely keep us updated, I already was having my mind blown on how much it’s going to fix my engine again and now this time around I’m looking at at least an additional $2k just because of Cobb.
@@zokusharuuku1091 not that simple. EPA swung its dick around and Cobb had no choice but to cave. Look to your elected government officials.
It’s definitely possible, especially in this day and age where practically everything is hackable due to hacking software being readily available. Just take one guy who is fed up 😄
Thanks again Tanner , you are an asset the Subaru community. It doesn’t seem like there are many options for us VA chassis owners. Hopefully time will fix that.
🤞🤞🤞 hoping some more PnP options come out
It really is a shame that there aren't more stand alone options for the VA chassis but after running the Motec m142 in my 2016 wrx for a couple years now I have to admit that I'm wildly impressed. Pretty expensive but the engine control is excellent without loosing oem functionality. I would encourage anyone with a 2015+ to give them a look if they are wanting to go the stand alone route
The amount of research you do for your videos and how much you help the car community is inspiring. Keep being you! Thanks for all the help.
Trying to help where I can 🥳
I'm running a Motec M1 from John Reed Racing on my 2007 Sti. All OEM functions are retained with my setup, for those that are wondering. Plus I've got the flexibility to run failsafes (coolant pressure, oil pressure, knock, ect) in addition to being able to watch everything (egt by cylinder, ect). It's a big investment, but totally worth it. And one can usually get 85% of the Investment back selling the units second hand if need be. Just my experience
Does your OBD2 port still work for emission testing?
I love your mad scientist vibe bro..
Thank you so much for all the work I know you put into providing all this info..
We appreciate all that you have figuredout in your extensive research
Trying to help where I can 🔥
I've wanted a WRX for a long time now, still do but my dream is deferred due to kids. One day I WILL have one. I wouldn't do nearly half the stuff you do but I love the content and learning. You're doing the community a huge service with vids like these. Awesome work
Hopefully your able to snag one soon 🥳 tey8ng to help out where I can 🔥
@@coolcarenvy that’s cool. I totally could do it with a two year old but I’m about to have 4 kids next month at home. It’s a little tight for now. I will have my WRX some day if Subaru doesn’t mess up that var too.
Currently leaning towards standalone, my tuner suggested it as if there’s a cel code that throws car won’t be able to tell me if there’s something else wrong with the car and I ain’t wanting to break anything, thanks for the video!
Before all my fellow va fa20 and ej owners go out and buy a stand-alone please keep in mind that alternative options are being worked out at the moment, we will have an opensource solution in the near future. And this is gonna happen in 1 or 2 ways.
1. Opensource from scratch
2. Cobb source code (either exact replica, or heavily based on access tuner pre green speed)
Whos doing it? My build starts next weekend and I've been so overwhelmed with what to do tuning wise
This!
These are just options for those who have bene looking or for those that wanted more info.
But open source and work arounds are coming out and IMO are still the most viable options over a stand alone
@@jamesj8348 it’s a conglomerate of people apart of the community who have the relevant knowledge and skills to work on the software aspect. For now if your build consists of items that will now trigger cel’s or if you have a flex fuel kit, your best bet is to either get ecutek, or wait. If you have the money then stand alone is fine as long as you’re okay with going that direction. However a little patience will not only save you money but also hassle from having to keep moving over to other tuning platforms as your build progresses. In the mean time I highly recommend getting a tactrix cable as you will need that once opensource is a available
@@ps3alphagamer12 thanks man, clutch is getting replaced this weekend so I figured that'll be a good time to add all my mods. But I guess I'll just have to be patient and install everything while the motor is back in. It's all been so overwhelming, I ordered all my parts and shortly after cobb announced the update..
Tanner, your not my Dad, your not my Mom .... but you are my brother! I appreciate you sir 🔥🔥🔥
I appreciate you Pete! 🥳🔥
Just wanted to give people a heads up, after talking to several different reputable tuners in my area, in general most if not all previous versions of downpipe/jpipes are tunable HOWEVER they will throw cels. The only one that is out there right now is the new GrimmSpeed's V2 jpipe that is said not to cause any cels. Just had one local guy get tuned and said no problems at all with it. And from what I've been told by several Subaru techs if you do get a code (P0420) you can run an 02 spacer/defouler. One tuner did confirm it does not mess with tuning either but could not comment any further. I haven't had much luck finding people who are actually running one to see if it does help.
I like stand alone ecu. It's so much better but make sure you understand what you're doing.
Big facts, can get expensive quick so have to do the research into them
Thx for the in depth look into ECUs for our subies. Very thorough and educational. That's why we watch!
Anytime my friend 🥳
I love that he’s got the HP Academy shirt while talking bout stand-alones. After I just watched the Hal tech video from them
HPA has heeps of good info 🔥
This wasn't mentioned in the video, but for 2015+ STi's with Haltech systems, a company called 14point7solutions makes a plug and play adapter for the Elite 2500. Just wanted to put that out there
Good to know 🥳
Both boomsland and 14point 7 are coming in clutch 🔥
Well said Professor Smeedia. 🧐
Information is friendly and easy to follow
Keep up with the great content
Thank you my friend 🥳🥳🥳
Wasn’t able to afford the shipping charges on the motor ( I won) but will always appreciate you and the content
for all my broke boi 01-05 wrx friends, haltech also makes the HT-055174. its a direct replacement and doesnt even need an adaptor. Not sure if its missing key features or other reasons its cheaper but its $1570 instead of $2240
Good addition to add 🔥
Based on my research (and it’s extensive because I’ve been planning out a stand-alone build for a year) there is NO aftermarket ECU which will handle emissions monitor checks or be passed by an OBD2 emissions test. Some aftermarket ECUs can be connected to the OBD2 port for canbus communication so something like a diagnostic scan-tool will still pick up codes and data pids. But if you live in an OBD2 emissions state the car will not pass because even if a scan tool can communicate with the stand-alone it won’t report any completed emissions monitors.
Good to know I couldn't find any definite answer in this topic.
For all the 02-05 wrx ONLY owners. There is a megasquirt plug n play option for you.
🔥🔥🔥
thank you Tanner... you really care about the community! you're the F'in man!!! lol seriously, before I even got to researching these things, I get the notification and see the title. your channel ALWAYS makes my day haha awesome info as always!
Eyyyy just trying to help where I can 🥳
👏🏼smeedia holds the throne!
🙏🙏🙏
Dude, you rock. You've been extremely helpful in understanding my build. Thanks so much.
Anytime and glad I can help 🥳
im new to the subaru world learning the system and controls its new to me coming from the toyota world, by the absolutely love the build the 6 banger is beautiful watching you go though the challenges is very informative for that and other issues
The issued have definitely been a fun time to overcome 😅
Motec M150 will work for STi 2004-2019. John Reed Racing has a PNP kit.
Good to know, saw theirs but couldn't find validation on it 🔥
Thanks Tanner. Staying with my USDM and JDM EJ's! Got Boomslang saved in my bookmarks.
Boomslang is a Saint 🔥
Great content as always glad to see your channel growing finally
Thank you Wyatt! 🥳
Great info.... Keeping my Cobb... EPA compliant car.. cats, TGV's etc.. :)
keep it coming.. Looking forward to BLUE getting going ..:)
Ain't nothing wrong with that at all 🥳
Just an fyi, boosted performance tuning offers a custom plug and play Emtron Kit for $4500, currently running it on my 2021 STI and it’s been great!
Also Hydra 2.7 if you can find one 😁 def a little dated but great if your trying to tune yourself! Lots of features and really good support from element tuning
Haven't heard that name in a hot minute 😅🔥
Any recommendation for a 6 cylinder swap to an EG or EZ like you have? Would you choose the same standalone ECU for your build if you could do it again? Thanks for all the info in this video!
200% would use haltech again. Amazing customer support, very user friendly and easy to learn the software
Hopefully you can find some information for us that deal with emissions regarding standalones I would love to have rolling anti lag 😩 I live in a emission state I was thinking on switching to ecutek for now atleast before they do the Access tuner changes because I think obd2 functionality still works. This came at such a bad timing I’m literally a month away from putting in my 800 hp engine 🤦🏽♂️
Sent a few emails out so hopefully will have some info on that soon 🤞
How about 08-14, your thoughts on syvecs plug and play for these years?
I haven't looked too much into syvecs yet but have it on my list to research 🔥
@@Smeedia thanx, waiting on your dyno video
I think installing a standalone is painful and expensive but then you have to freedom to run whatever you want in the future. I guess the big question is, will any of these pass a plug in emissions test via OBD2 port
From ehat I've recently learned, no they won't 😭
Great info, Tanner!
Every ECU is compatible if you are willing to make a new harness for it hahahah (unless you are DIT)
I'm getting a Fueltech FT550 on my 2005 WRX Wagon(wich I'm swapping to a 2007 WRX engine)
Keep up the good work, greetings from Brazil!
Thank you! And very true, can make any work if your dedicated enough for the wiring 😅🔥
Such good information too have, hopefully more information comes out soon for us emissions boys.
🤞🤞🤞
@@JordieG8 troll
Glad you made this video! Had so many questions myself 😁
Hopefully this helps 🥳
What's the best option for a 94 impreza I want to put a ej20 from 2001?
Went haltech for my gc8 Subaru this some good timing
Love my haltech 🔥
Just a heads up there is a company making third part plug and play adapters for the 2011-2014wrx & 2011-2018sti to run a haltech elite 2500. This also includes a base map. The company is called 14point7solutions. Also they believe they will still work on 19+ STi but haven’t had a car to test and confirm on. Can send you the link if you want to know more
Any word on if they're building out the Canbus support for it?
@@Smeedia I’m now more curious about this though, I reached out to the owner who I talked to previously to see what canbus features are all supported and if and if any are left out
@@Smeedia btw talked to them canbus support is there. Turns out this is the same system Bader will be testing
I got really luck I have a guy pretty close to me that specializes in subies and PnP and standalones and he has a really good deal for me. Like $4200 for haltech and the sensors needed and dyno tuned.
That's not terrible 🔥
over here in the UK us subaru fans use syvecs worth a read up
Will look onto them a bit more 🔥
haltech is the best overall, You get free firmware updates which include new functions for free, motec charge for everything,
Very happy with my haltech 🔥
My Tuner said they’ll be using HP Tuner on 2011 WRX’s
Another good option 🔥
Great content dude, but what ecu would work for us legacy gt drivers with a ej25 mine is a year 2005
None that are PnP, would have to get a patch harness made. Depending on power the AP should still work for you 🤙
@@Smeedia thanks for the reply dude your the best ! 🙌🏻…. I have a Cobb AP right now works good but with the whole new Cobb update I doubt tuners will be able to tune mine aswell so I might need to go another route trying to make big power one day 🤘🏼
Community question: If I need to get rid of emissions codes on an 04 STI what are my options in 2023?
So much useful info! Now I just need to figure out how to buy one 😆
Lol that can be a little tricky 😅
There are so many things that motec offers that I dont need, I really hope a cheaper option comes to light on the va wrx.
Sameeee, I think emtron may be working on something 🤞
Great informational as always !! Will we get more EVO videos once the blubaru is up and running ?
Yessir 🥳 have more evo parts on the way 🔥
@@Smeedia nice !! Currently in the process of selling my sti to buy a red evo9 mr , cant wait to see what yours will turn out like 🔥🔥
Ohhhhh I just ordered the turbo for my 8!
just need someone to boom slang a halter 2500 so we can figure out what exactly is retained and what needs to be be manually wired in. also if things that are wired in already via stock if we can assign them. for example the tagv left for flex signal.
You can re assign some but don't know the extent of what you can actually change in the software. In theory should be any AVI input
Well I have the boomslang in my hands.. I’m just trying to justify ordered the ecu blind and not knowing what is actually going to not work and what is… ya know ?
Let’s get Tanner to 100k before summer! Let’s go Noti Gang!
Let's goooo 🥳🥳🥳
Great video as always- I have a 2012 wrx, is my best option at this point to go open source? I have flex fuel kit, catless, TGV and secondary air deletes
Yessir, heard that Eric at torqued performance is doing open source 🔥
@@Smeedia will look into him, thanks !
@Smeedia yep, just talked to Eric. He said flexfuel tune will be end of 2023
Say you were building karma right now instead of last year... You've got the 1300cc injectors, made fuel lines/dual pump in tank, you have the full $800 Cobb flexfuel kit and now you have to decide if you're going to work with the castrated Access Port/ comply with emissions (evap, charcoal canister, tgv, cated dp) and just run a 93octane map/ have the second map for ethanol.... Or do you say fudge it $$$ and go standalone.
Where I'm at now, I was building "The Karma specialrecipe" with +2mm rods minus the rotated turbo and AMS intake manifold... But instead of the BC valve train in karma I have ferrea valve train/tomei poncams and ported heads. I've only got an FP Blue, flexfuel was so easy last month I literally just wanted to see how far I can push a stock location JB turbo with a mild cam and porting. I think I'm tapping out on e85 for now/ just enjoy it as a headache free 93 octane street car... The extra $ + inconvenience of checking ethanol content at the pump like it's 2011 again and switching maps or $$$ standalone and find a tuner comfortable with whatever you have.
Personally I'd say fudge it and get the standalone, if I'm already in that deep I'd just send it and do everything proper 🙏 think you'd be happier long term with full functionality
First to comment PowerRage for the win
Power range? 🤔
@@SmeediaI believe he is power rage STI in discord xD
Yup lol @ David black
Man I appreciate the hard work thank you!
Anytime 🥳🥳
What about the immobilizer? Can a Haltech stand-alone bypass the factory immobilizer?
Hey! How is working with haltech ecu? I am building an rx7 with a chevy 350. I will be building the harness. Any thoughts, recommendations, tips, tricks? Complaints?
Excellent explanation, experience based 👍
🙏🙏🙏
This is a good general guide! Would a standalone make a 5EAT to 5MT swap easier? Asking because my legacy is auto, and I'm trying to find the easy way to swap (and a new car isn't an answer because that would be cheating)
It should since your eliminating the TCM, 🙏
@@Smeedia this might be my (albeit more expensive) ticket to my dream setup with a DCCD! And better tunability! And since my car is an 05 LGT, I don't have a lot of CANBUS stuff to worry about (steering wheel controls don't exist, except for the sport shift, and wheel speed sensors being CAN might be more). Gonna look more into it! Thanks!
Wish there was more than just motec for the fa platform
perfect timing... mines in the mail
Ohhh yesss 🔥🔥🔥
What matters more when looking for a stand alone your year and model Subaru or your engine? I will have ej25 but in a 2002 wrx.
For the most part engine and can protocol will be biggest influence
@@Smeedia ok thank you so much! Do you think I’ll need a new engine wiring harness for the swap?
What cylinder heads are you using? 🙏
@@Smeedia I was planning on using MAP stage 1 cylinder heads. Would they hold 600 safely
SO MUCH Great info here! Thank you as always for guiding the Subi community in the right direction 🙌🙌
Any standalone &/or plug-&-play for LGT or Forester XT?
I saw link and haltech had some options 🥳
watch out for that though, I think the plug and play stuff for haltech is just for AUS and JDM cars (atleast for legacys), not sure about link.
@@ZackXJ Good to know! & Good I'm just going open source for my tune next month then 👌
Gonna put a standalone in my public road car now 😂😂🤌
I won't tell if you won't 🤫🤣
@Smeedia, my tuner said get Haltech 2500 and boomslang.
Please do video on opensource with flexfuel.
I didn't see anything on legacy gt and outback, but I'll assume that haltech has it being you mentioned 06-10 wrx
Only legacy stuff I saw for PnP was for AUD models 🙏 but a few pin outs and you could modify a harness
I know I couldn't use haltech with my setup I working towards have to use a AEM to work with the avcs and the eight injector ill be running
Going to be a wild set up 🔥
@@Smeedia going to use 1050 cc for primary and 2000cc for secondary. I'm trying to hit 35psi boost at 3500rpm aiming for that 800 hp at that rpm and stupid trq
So do you still need to stick with your factory imobilizer with the haltech 2500 elite plug and play? My guess is no just wanna be sure :)
You don't mention a single one for the EZ36. :(
Haltech can give you one set up with the 2500 elite...
Only saw an option for the EZ30 but for AUD models only 👀
I couldn't help but notice the only cars not mentioned...11-14. Any information on those cars? Just trying to figure out what route to go to with my build.
Motec or emtron 🙏🙏
@@Smeedia I was afraid of that lol. Was really hoping for a haltech answer for the price lol..onto motec it is!
you know much about tactrix? heard people use them before and they work great on the older chassis
I do 🔥 have a separate video I will make on that 🤙
As far as cost goes I saw that mega squirt makes a pretty cheap non plug and play ecu and harness for my 04 sti. It is $360 but my question is would this be a cheaper option in the end if I am already having my engine torn apart for a rebuild? Link is $1600 so as long as labor installing a wiring harness isn’t over a grand do you think that is a viable cheap option? I just don’t know much about ecu’s and as long as I can tune it and it has launch control and flat foot shifting I’m good.
It could be viable, but I would double chdck soecs on thr Mega squirt to make sure it can perform all functions needed
I'm currently stuck in no-mans land, too many mods to stick with Cobb but not really there for standalone on the stock bottom end. Open source doesn't seem to be the answer for speed density/flex fuel/ ect. Either. Might have to drop coin on the haltech 2500 elite pnp unless my tuner can work magic.
Hopefully thr tuner can work some magic 🔥
You need to do one about open source!
It's on my list 🤙
@@Smeedia some of the 2002 WRX models are now “historic” and therefore are emissions exempted if you run those plates!
More great info, but who was playing the harmonica 🤣
Lol did you like it!? 😅
Would the amount of HP be something that'll play into choosing either opensource or standalone? Let's say top out at around 450- 500?
450-500 I'd use open source or the AP 🙏
Just the content i need to hear brother💪, just when im about to continue my build, so I spoke with my tuner he told me to stand by on buying more parts, so theyre trying to find out a solution to tune it right in order to use the tgv, e85 air pump delete and all that crap cobb made it complicated to us...🤞
I heard some people are looking for work arounds at the moment 🔥
@@Smeedia 🤞🤞🤞we'll see bro....eager to see The Blue Devil H6 ripping the Dyno!🔥
Following on this! Specially the air pump delete. I don’t have to deal with the rest of it… yet! lol
What I've found out sofar for us GD sti guys 04-06 tgvs are side feed injector rails/ this is a problem since the tgv deletes are also top feed fuelrail conversions...
The TGV sensor is identical to the TPS sensors, should be able to plug in 2 spare TPS sensors and bam the check engine light should stay off/ I'm going as far as milling dummy flanges to weld on to the aftermarket tgv deletes in the stock location. Thoughts anyone?
@@Smeedia JR tuned says he can do those things now still. And even in the future
My car is running too lean and have check engine light o2 sensor low efficiency sounds like I need a tuneup?
Tune up is not a bad place to start 🙏
Best thing to do is talk to your tuner instead of buying the first thing you see. The tuner will help you more than the internet and even smeedia
Edit: no offense smeedia
No I'm 100% in agreement with you, this video was just made to answer the questions I was getting 🥳
Hi appreciate the content and love the channel but this has me confused. Is it possible to get 330whp with a Cobb access port on a 2016 sti without egr delete ect or will I have to look elsewhere thanks
Yes it is very possible 🥳
Happy days haha
What happened to the 2011 to 2014 WRX and STI’s? We get no love?! 😢
Emtron for 08+
All I could find 😪
@@Smeedia sounds like I have a lot of digging and learning to do! 👍🏽 keep up the good work brother! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
@@Smeedia so there is no haltech ecm's for 11-14? OR there's just no plug & play options? OR there is no canbus connections? you should make a separate vid for us 11-14 wrx/sti peeps cuz i know there's TONS of us!!
They stopped at 2010, they don't have full Can support it sounds like
No joy for Legacy GT, Forester XT, Baja Turbo tweakers.
Only found options for AUD Models 😭
Is there any sort of plug and play ECU’s for 2012 STi’s?
I'm now more confused then before. What's now good for Sti 2017?
Hey tanner do you have any info on the exedy slave cylinder? Is it good or would u prefer OEM?
Normally I just use OEM 🙏
@@Smeedia ok thanks bro
I tried to have a look at cobbs green power thing for the AP in AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺 & its non existent. Looks like we’re not getting this crap down under.
Hopefully you guys are safe 🤞🤞🤞
hey bro cheers for the video, would you know what ecus would apply to my year Subaru ? its a weird year and model I cant seem to much information about them on the net.
its a - 2007 Impreza s-gt manual hatchback narrow body. a lot of places on the net don't even say they done this shape in 2007 so it confuses me abit
I haven't seen anything about it, if you wanted to do a standalone you may have to make your own harness for it
I get stand alones are really good but there is still open source which I have been using on my sweedish cars for over 10 years. Can you cover what cables/programs work with subarus? I'm still really new to this platform
Open source is fantastic and have a doffrent video lined up for that. This was attributed for stand alone only 🙏
@@Smeedia I look forward to it! Please if possible get into different cable options.
@@Smeedia hey I have an idea and you have the connections. I have no idea how to PM on TH-cam though and can't find d you on FB for some reason
Instagram is the best bet 🥳
What about keeping the OEM ECU and using opensource tuning or some other tuning software that isn't COBB?
My tuner is allowing me to tune my 08 LGT open source w/ no extra cost (already had tune scheduled though) so just ask your tuner & see if they can
Definitely an option for EJs, not so much FAs
2005 STI drivetrain in a GC8 RS shell - from Haltech, is the Elite 2500 my only option? Not able/worth using the “lesser” models (Eg Elite 1500)?
And any thoughts on AEM v LinkG4?
AEM and link are fantastic, haltech is thr only one I have experience with so I'd say haltech.
The 1500 should be sufficient for the car
Anything for 2012 WRX? Seems like they stopped at 2010. 😢
Emtron seems to be thr only option I've seen 😬
Some one just crack the Access tuner already, We can donate
Heard some people have 🤫
Tanner, I need some help bro.. my '05 Outback XT motor is done. I bought a jdm ej20x to swap on, but it's dual AVCS. The swap seems to work using the jdm block/heads along with the USDM Intake manifold/ turbo and Exhaust manifold. All sensors/switches plug in except the exhaust AVCS sensors, which people leave unplugged. The thing is, my car came modified and tuned for a catless DP, CAI and Grinspeed Boost Controller; however, I was never given its tune or Access Port, it was probably open source. Now I'm afraid to swap the jdm motor and damage it due to those existing mods on my car. I heard iwire makes a merge kit to control the jdm exhaust AVCS sensors, but I'd need a jdm ECU. What a headache man.. What do you recommend I do? Do I have any options or should I return the motor while I still can? Thank in advance!
So when you are referring to ej25 is the ej257 in that category or am i mistaken? I have a built ej257 sti engine that should hold 500 hp and my goal is 330/350 awhp would i need a standalone for that or
You would not need a standalone, the accessport is more than sufficient 🤙
What would you recommend for a 2004 wrx with 2.5 hybrid motor? Just looking to get it running, nothing special
I didn't quite get what was a good ECU for 2004 STi...
Can some body send me a suggestion, plz!
What about 08-14 sti
Emtron will be your best bet
So where do I start for a 2011 STI Hatch? 😭
Emtron seems like the best option 😭
Didn't hear many options for a 2004 sti
What would you recommend for the most tuning options
Haltech, motec, emtron, Link, AEM there's alot out there.
Personally I prefer haltech
Question: I was wondering if your push to start button still works and if directly wired to the keyless access CM or wired directly to the standalone? I sent a message on IG as well. Thank you!
It's wired to the CM, works like oem 🥳
What about megasquirt?