As a viewer from Europe (Sweden) I state this: Owned quite a few VAG cars during the years. All DSG-box, both diesel and petrol. My verdict is affordable cars with a high level of comfort and attention to deatails. High end engines are very potent indeed. The lower specs is a dream to own regarding ownership costs. No issues worth mention in any of the cars. But maybe, I was just lucky 🙂 Thanks guys for another Great review!
I suspect Europeans get better quality cars, AU/US gets lower quality cars on purpose as they know we are spenders and will buy Euro brand regardless. Keep in mind Sweden has much harsher climate than AU but cars still last. We get lemons
Have a 1.8 version with the DSG dry clutch. Done 185k plus kmh so far. No major issues. Replaced the dry clutch pack twice under warranty and had some issues with the water pump. But other than that, all other work carried out are nothing unusual compared to any other cars I’ve owned before. It’s an average car in town but a joy to drive once the road opens and you’re doing speed above 120 kmh. Power delivery is very good, the car is light on its feet, you don’t feel the overhang on the front. You can make sudden turns midway without upsetting its composure. Have done a max of 242kmh. Still stable and refined. It’s pretty spacious too and with a big booth (more than 500 litres) to match. The only other problem I’ve had (maybe it’s specific to me) is the drivers seat which doesn’t seem to support my back as well as I’ve would like. Could be due to my weight which is 90plus kgs. From exchanging notes amongst fellow friends who drive the Passat, the one common thing we notice is that most owners who have complains about the reliability of their Passats are almost without fail, the ones who tend to drive their car slowly and gently. The Passat is meant to be driven fast and hard. The car loves this. Wear and tear will be there but overall we have very little issues with the car compared to those driving it gently. So go out and go hard on these. I usually use the manual gears on the highway and the acceleration and overtaking is such joy, the car able to keep up with cars that have supposedly far more power. Lovely car. Wish I had purchased the 2.0 version though.
My brother had a 140TDI Highline, it was a great car, bought a 2015 build in early 2016 had sold it in 2021, he had no real issues with it (unlike the Tesla he replaced it with) the only issue I ever recall was the AC would intermittantly not work and it took the dealership 3 goes to diagnose and fix it (from memory he gave it to them for a couple days and told them to drive it) it was brilliant on fuel (we drove Sydney to Brisbane on less than half a tank) and the ride was extremely comfortable.
Love my MY21 B8.5 206TSI Wagon and MY18 3H 206TSI Arteon - surprised with the volume of negatives here - I struggle to think of a better bang for buck car.
I'm actually looking to either purchase a Passat R Line 2017 or an Arteon R line 2017. I have one kid under the age of 1 years old. Both back boots are more than enough for me. I'm not sure which I'd like better. I would prefer the one that's more comfortable of a drive. Could you give me your opinion?
@@TurkMovementhey mate, I know you didn’t ask me - but I’m also curious about the Arteons as you can get in an early year model low k’s for under $40k now… If you have a kid under 1 and have car seats - I’d highly suggest testing getting the car seat in/out in the arteon. Being a fastback you’re squished getting it sorted! The Passat may prove to be the better choice there with the flat roofline. Just my $0.02
Had my passat 206 Rline wagon for 5 years, literally not a single thing you mention for the exterior and interior has been an issue. The only thing I've done is replace the waterpump at 100k km, standard VW issue. Best sleeper on the road!
I've got the exact spec in this video, done 180kms. I've never had an issue, bar some cosmetic bits and pieces. It's rapid, it's refined, handles like a gem and has more kit than most specs of 3 series do today. Real world fuel eco of 7.3/100.I know VWs get maligned but I've been right on or before with servicing the whole journey and it's been a brilliant car. It does ride a bit stiff over bumps with the low profiles and 19s. Swapped to Michelin sports from the factory pirellis. There can be some slight creaking in front shocks but it's a known issue when servicing you can get across easily. I've just got a work car and I won't be selling my Passat, I'll keep it for weekend road trips because I don't think you can get any more car for the 20k it's worth.
I've had 12 Vag machines now, and despite all the perceived issues, I've been happy with pretty much all of them from my 79' golf to my 15' S3 - More so than any of my 3 Hondas, one of my two Subarus and some of my 18 Toyotas (yeah, I've been around a few years lol)
I've been waiting for this video, brilliant! Thanks Adam and Jim, love your work! I've had 4 VWs and including two B8 Passats (a 140TDI and currently a 206TSI) and have absolutely loved them all. The only issue I've ever had was the ad-blue sensor going in the diesel at about 80,000 clicks, otherwise the 200,000 k's that I've done in my VW's have been a dream. I plan on keeping my current 206 sedan (one of the last delivered to Australia) forever, so hope they become a bit of a classic. My VW's have never failed to bring a smile to my face, hopefully I have many more years of enjoying the brand and the associated controversy!
I have a 206tsi and I absolutely love it. They nailed the B8 design inside and out. Can confirm the water pump reliabilty is not the best. Maintenance is essential on these cars. Not for the people that don't service their car on time.
I wonder if most people who have problems *have* serviced their cars on time, and it's just crappy VW build quality? I'm so tempted by a Passat wagon but I'd want it for 10+ years so not sure I want to gamble on it...
@@Mububban23not really if you service your car on time it helps in the long run. It all depends if the pervious owner took care of the car if it's used sometimes you don't get lucky and things break. It's not only volkswagen every car manufacturers you run into a problem just do your research and look at TH-cam reviews.
I've had a 2018 B8 Passat wagon for 5yrs now. Never had an issue apart from needing a new alternator. I totally understand the comment about everyone thinking you're an unmarked cop car. The amount of drivers that slow down once I'm behind them is hilarious. Bloody love this car, it has everything, looks, performance and practicality.
Just sold mine last month after ticking over 5 years ownership. Was the best car I've ever had right up until it hit 90k km's. At that point the water pump was leaking, the DSG would throw itself into neutral at any speed - IE total power loss whether you're doing 20kmh or 110kmh. Completely threw my confidence in the car and at that point I knew it was time to off load it. Quotes to fix the water pump and DSG were eye watering, and the comments at 11:57 about the DSG always being on the back of your mind is spot on. Ultimately traded it in for peanuts on a new RAV4, and it certainly feels like a step up in reliability but a huge step down in comfort and features. For the first 90k km's it was a dream car. But the potential for being a money pit around the 100k mark onwards it's hard to recommend them, or any other VW/Audi Group car.
What a shit take. You can change the fluids as much as you like, even if the dealership won’t. Doesn’t change the fact that the mechatronics unit in these is a sealed unit, and my issues were electrical faults, nothing to do with the fluids. VW and electrical gremlins go hand in hand.
@@eggbirdtheroostercouldn’t agree more. Cabin quality and comfort level have never been better but the reliability has taken a huge dive and I’ve ruled them out for the foreseeable future.
I'm at 228,000km and the DSG issues have just begun - fell out of gear while driving (free revving), and then finally wouldn't move when it was in gear (just revved on the spot). I'd be interested to hear what your wiring issues were, because mine is currently sitting at the mechanic waiting to be looked at (they suspect wiring, given the faults that have been thrown all at the same time). I've done the water pump twice (once under warranty at 40,000km and once more as a precaution at 190,000km). But aside from that, it has been an incredibly reliable car - in 8 years, never broke down, until yesterday! I'm about to buy another one because I love the car so much.
(in Europe) Had a 2015 176KW/240hp BiTdi wagon and it was amazing. Waterpump along with the belt needs to be done every 120k and dual mass flywheel every 180-200k. I bought it in 2021 with 186k on the odometer and sold it in January this year with 232k. in that time the only thing I had to replace, that was not regular maintenence waas the rear corner light. the car was extremeley reliable. No DSG issues, No haldex issues, no electrical issues. Just a really great and quick car. The most expensive service was the flywheel at 200k. it cost about 1.4k with a regular oil change service.
Purchased an MY21 206 wagon last year to replace an MY17 Octavia RS wagon. The improvement in the interior is very noticeable - much better fit out and aesthetics. As mentioned the seats in the Passat are great both front and rear. The 206 gets soft Nappa leather. Car does long distance trips easily. I also like the fact the Passat has a full sized spare Both have a Stg 1 tune so the 4wd is very beneficial. The bigger turbo in the Passat does take a little longer to spool up. Was surprised the fuel line rattle I had in the Octavia also surfaced in the Passat. Not a big deal I guess as both were an easy fix under warranty. No other issues of note in the Passat which is sitting on 28k. The Octavia had an issue with one of the steering wheel scroll wheels fixed under warranty. It also developed a cooling leak at 90k caused by an O ring failure - was a $2 fix. Still had the original water pump when sold. Both great cars - especially in wagon form - but it seems most don’t see it that way. Anyone looking at a later model Passat should note that the MY23 Passats are affected by the chip shortage and as such have some safety items removed. Was the reason I went for a slightly older one.
@@queanbeyanking The Octavia is more nimble. You can feel the weight difference between the two. If I’m being realistic the Passat suits the sort of driving I do better and I do like the traction it offers. I always turn off the stop/start so can’t comment with any authority on that. In the Octavia I could turn it off permanently via a ODB tool. VW stopped that in later models so I have to press a button each time in the Passat.
I enjoy my proline wagon quite a lot. Not without its faults but what I was most amazed by is its fuel economy. Over 1400km per tank on the hwy and around 1000 suburban/town. It takes 95 ron which stings a bit at the pump but that is a rare thing now. 74000 km and no issues mechanically but it’s due for a service in a cpl weeks and compared to our Rav it’s bloody expensive. All in all happy with it.
I’ve got a B7 (couldn’t afford anything newer) and I love it, diesel, and I drive 70km each way for work and get 4.9L per 100 going 120kph the whole way, full tank gives me 1,480km to empty. I had a turbo Territory before this, which got 14.1L per 100 if I babied it… and this car’s fuel usage has saved me enough money to buy a whole another territory. My only complains are the electronic tailgate which was dodgy, had to get it converted to manual. The dash in mine also rattled, but you can remove the shroud and insert a screw which VW decided to not have one in, and it’s gone. Occasionally the Bluetooth will freeze. The headlights are the base model halogen ones, and if I want projector ones with DRL’s then I’ll need to fork out a ton and get them coded. However the halogen drl’s I simply swapped out for white LED’s and it greatly enhances the look. No car play, but when I get money I’ll get a VW head unit with it, they’re easy to find online. Overall I really enjoy the car ❤
I have a B7 as well. It has the 1.8 TSI and even that is amazingly economical. It is a great driving car and if the driver's electric window switch worked properly it would be even better. All the horror stories about blown engines kinda freak me out but I did have an EJ25 powered Liberty so I must like to live dangerously.
Ah, it seems like not much has changed at VW. As a young fella, many years ago, I treated myself to my first new car, a VW Passat Wagon. Oh dear, what a truckload of misery that was. It rattled, it squeaked, it leaked water, dust seals failed allowing copious amount of dust into the cabin, it left me stranded roadside when rubbish left in the fuel tank from manufacture clogged the fuel line. I traded it after only 15 months, taking an almost 50% discount on the purchase price. It was, however very nice to drive, when it was going!
Used Mazda 6 Petrols are quite expensive and diesel engines don't seem that strong? I went with a W204 C class instead, would love to see you review it.
My 206 RLine was the best car I've ever owned. After all the typical major repairs happened - water pump and thermostat, a/c compressor and condenser - it ran flawlessly and was the best car to drive that I've ever had. My brother bought it off me and he is currently driving it with no issues. I have a new Polo GTI now (my third VW, maybe I enjoy the thrill of VW 'reliability'), but always think back fondly on my Passat.
Volkswagen is reliable and basic maintenance is cheap and easy. Redriven should do a video DIY maintenance with Jim and AK shows how to drive and treat a car with mechanical sympathy
@@jamesbennett1691 maybe skimping on the maintenance part ? Skoda x 2 07, 11 Octavia diesel and turbo petrol reliable as. Regular dsg and engine oil changes. Wheel bearing and wear and tear items only.
my dads done 130,000km in his 2016 passat b8 wagon, its incredibly quick, actually surprisingly economical even round town and only thing its needed is a 80$ sensor and a waterpump. its been more reliable than my toyota.
Adam I’ve got a 2017 Skoda Superb Sportline. So it’s basically the same underpinnings but of course different body. I absolutely love it & have not had an issue…to date!🤞🏻🙏🏻🤣 I also reckon the lack of plastic on the door surrounds looks unfinished. However mine is black so not as obvious. The 206kw engine & 4WD is a blast & has certainly caught a few wannabe racers out…up to 60kmh of course!😉 No rattles anywhere, no issues & for a 2017 model I still love the look of it. The highlights are the rear leg room & carrying capacity with the seats down.👍🏼😎
The Skoda is a slightly stretched Passat so an extra inch of legroom in the back and boot space. I think the skoda is a more handsome car than the Passat inside and out.
After narrowing my particular requirements down I was looking between the Passat 206TSI Wagon and the Skoda equivalent. I ended up going the Skoda in the end, and I am still (almost a year later) happy with the decision. I needed a wagon with enough room to fit two large dogs, that was going to have enough grunt to be an enjoyable drive - I was coming from a BF2 XR6 Turbo.
I’ve got the 2017 model Sportline 206kw 4WD from new & still,love it! I also shopped it against the Passat & found fit & finish was a lot better then the VW! The carrying capacity is HUGE isn’t it?👍🏼😎
@@erehwon80 I get the same effect with my Mk4 Octavia RS hatch. Because Australian spec Mk4 Octavia's are missing the rear wiper, it just looks like a sedan. Then you open the hatch and it's huge. Even bigger if you've got the Superb.
My problems with my 2016 station wagon: 1. Rattling sound from the steering wheel (maybe airbag) 2. Rattling sound from the left side of the window And that's it. Always servising it on time keeps it run beautifully. Great machine! Still in love with it after owning it for 4 years. (I usually change cars after a year or two). This one is staying with me.
@@GT-pl1wx I do a lot of miles so a diesel makes the most sense. The Mazda6 with the 2.2 diesel is the best option in that range, but the engine is horrifically unreliable. VW is far, far ahead in that aspect
@@bpgt1951 VW have made some cracking cars over the years. You just have to know what to look for. I'm not buying a ragged Golf GTI with a chameleon tint that stinks of vapes
I have a 2015 Sharan with Cup package. 2.0 TDi and DSG. Holy shit what a brilliant car that is. Its only now starting to get some DPF issues, after 320k km. Its very fast, agile, roomy and spacious and has a massive glass roof. Those Era VW can surprise for sure
I have a Passat CC diesel that my son now drives and I've owned for 12 years. It's been pretty much faultless mechanically. Still looks great, drives really well and is super comfortable with those sporty seats. The headlining needs replacing and the parking sensors have a bit of whinge, but other than that it's been good. A relative has an R line petrol sedan and that thing is fantastic. Looks super smart, goes pretty quick and has also had no issues.
I had a 2018 VW golf GTI and had the water pump, thermostat, 9.2 inch infotainment screen and lower front suspension arms all replaced without fuss under VW standard and extended warranty. The golf replaced a Hyundai which spent most of the 10 mths I owned it being fixed and arguing with Hyundai as they tried to renege on their warranty. So in conclusion, no car is perfect and not all warranties are created equal. Yes I’d buy another VW
Ok, you may have persuaded me that I should try another VW (I'm on my third and it's a money pit), but I chuckled at the effect of people thinking you are an unmarked police car. I once got given a white Mercury Grand Marquis as a rental from Hertz on a business trip. It's basically a Ford Crown Victoria which was the standard police car in the early 2000s. I drove from Raleigh NC to Kingsport TN, to Philadelphia PA, to New York in that thing and on the highway stretches I found people moving out of the way as I cruised up behind them in that big white barge before they spotted the Mercury badge wasn't a Ford one. 😄
Just get a used Skoda Superb or Octavia RS, Same engines, drive train and gearbox, but much cheaper and more fun, not to mention the boot size being liftback instead of a boot Win win
6:37 I don't know why VW do this. I think its to differentiate between Audi and VW but it just feels unnecessarily cheap. For example I would actually prefer the Golf MK7 interior to the equivalent Audi A3 if VW bothered to put some trim around the door surrounds, but because they haven't the Golf interior just feels ever so slightly worse than the Audis.
The B8 Passat looks alright but I think for piece of mind I'd go the Mazda 6 just to be safe. I will admit the amount of boot space is phenomenal from what you guys showed. The gearbox shitting itself is what happened to someone I knew to there Passat but I'm not sure if it was a B8 or not. The do have another Passat wagon and I'll admit it is a nice looking car. Great work as always guys and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍
I currently own a 206 R line wagon which I bought to replace my R36 & if you can find a good one on the used market nothing else comes close for performance, practicality & luxury at the price point. With a stage 1 tune they are seriously quick (easy sub 5 second 0-100) for a big wagon. Fit quality tyres & the handling & braking is up there with far more expensive Euro options too. The boot space & rear seat legroom is huge & I love being able to fold down a rear seat & chuck in surfboards. My family also owned a B8 140d Alltrack wagon for 4 years & apart from the waterpump failing at 160000kms I cannot fault that car either. The diesel engine is still very torquey & we averaged about 1000km per tank so economy is fantastic.
hi, this is a bit random but i want to buy my first car and im looking at early 2010s, late 2000s VW Jettas and Passats. I have found a nice VW passat from 2012 that looks to be pretty good for under 10k, is this a good choice for a first car?
I’ve got a 2018 bi-tdi wagon and mechanically it’s beyond brilliant… but the electronics and sensors are discusting. One fails, fix that then another goes (currently going through speed sensors) and stereo glitches. Owned VW’s for decades and this one has killed it for me.
Have had 5 VWs in total both in Aus and overseas and currently have a Golf8 R line. Only problem was a water pump failure after 65k in a Polo TSI. What I do know and stress that others should try is driving any VW model and comparing to any Asian car to see just how advanced VWs are. And, this video is not what I’ve experienced at all and in my lifetime, I’ve had many different marquees and judge VWs in a level of their own e.i. They sit in between luxury cars and mainstream cars.
I've got a 2017 (MY18 upgraded media screen) 206tsi R-Line sedan & I love it. We also have a 2017 Tiguan (which we also love). The 6 speed DSG auto is bullet proof compared to the 7 speed. Fuel economy is ridiculous considering how much power it has. It's fun to drive, fits 5 people comfortably, and I fit more in the boot than the Tiguan.
Avoid problems with the SCR and add blue set up by keeping the tank at least 60% full, Add blue residue crystallizes as the tank empties, the Cambelt interval for the 2,0 litre TDI is 210 k km.
I agree, I'm a bit mad about the fact that VW discontinued their sedans, because their Arteon and Passat sedans are one of my favourite cars, I current drive a 2014 passat and the fact that it still looks good is astonishing.
I have the Skoda wagon copy, water pump, pistons, rings, rebore, valves, 3 upgrades on the DSG, door cards, fuel gauge remote key fob (both). But the car drives so well when it is working. And yes, hot wagons are the best. Looks like either a Lexus (but no wagon in Oz, bugger) or a Superb wagon next.
having driven these and golfs, i have only one problem with them when it comes to driving them working: euro/opposite hand drive indicators /windscreen wiper stalks that dont match australian spec cars...if you go back and forth between the two different stalk positions, its a pain in the butt.
Great car....long live sports wagons! I'm onto my second 206TSI R-Line wagon. First B8 was fantastic, only the obligatory water pump at 40,000kms which VW covered under warranty. My current B8.5 offers even better ride, the factory suspension setup is sublime. Touch wood no issues. Overall extremely happy with these very underrated wagons. Acres of room, plenty of power & luxury, plus fantastic ride & handling. Best of all they're not overweight, overpriced, unwieldy and boring SUVs!
Here in West Aussie the coppers are using Passats as mufti-cars. All are a dark green nearly black colour. NB have also sighted a subaru liberty as a mufti-car recently - exact same colour paint-jobbe....
Owned a 2015 Mazda 6 and it was the most boring car I've ever driven. Now driving a Skoda Superb Wagon with the absolutely brilliant 3.6 V6 engine and oh boy what a car it is. Whilst I've had a serious issue getting parts locally, had none getting them from overseas and in some cases they were cheaper than I could get locally (including postage) a couple of cases, also quicker! (had discs coming from Ingleburn to Brisbane that took 2 weeks but pads from Latvia turned up in 4 days!) The comment you brought up about it looking like a HWP car is the 1 reason I hated owning my Commodores. People that were suspicious of your car instantly became a problem as they'd slow down and be a nuisance even more than they already were some to a point they actually did even stupider things to see if you would pull them over.
Had the B7 V6 and a Passat CC V6, both very nice cars that ran faultlessly, did about 60k in the B7 before trading it on the CC and did just shy of 100k in it.
I travel a lot and rent a lot of cars to drive around Australia and NZ. There was a time when Europcar used to rent Passat diesel wagons before VW were caught with their hands in the dodgy jar and diesels became as popular as poo in a hat. But of all the cars I've rented the Passat diesel wagon was just the best bloody car ever for a long journey. Fast, spacious, comfortable and unbelievably economical. I could drive from the Gold Coast to Cairns and get over 1,300kms out of a tank which meant just one fill up on a 2200km journey. I miss the Passat.
A mate of mine had one of these as a wagon. The sun roof leaked, letting water in and completely screwed the electronics. They got rid of it and bought a Skoda wagon .... gluttons for punishment?
My wife and I have had the good luck and pleasure of owning a B8 140 TDI R-Line sedan and a B8 206TSI R-Line wagon. They have both been superb cars. The Diesel would do as little as 4.6 L/100 on a highway run. The 206 wagon we still own. We did have annoying body flex rattles in the 140 which had a sunroof and we recently had the obligatory failed water pump in the 206. But otherwise, no other dramas. The 140 has now been replaced with a Cupra Formentor VZX. As good as the Cupra is, if i was to drive from say Brisbane to Sydney tomorrow i would take the Passat, such is its great comfort, ride, practicality and lovely dynamics. They are the best cars VW makes. I would buy another Passat in a heartbeat, but sadly they are dropping them from the VW lineup. SUV's have become a curse. Maybe i might need to get a Skoda Superb wagon which is the closest alternative.
The Passat ain't a bad car but I would honestly suggest to change the transmission oil every 60k km and do your engine a favor and change the oil every 10k km. The Diesel ones are really fricking great in reliability but make sure, Water pump works properly, because no matter what engine spec you buy, these things always fail at some point. Also if you are about to get the smaller engines like the 1.6 TDi with 120hp or 1.5 TSi with 150hp. Those come with a dry clutch transmission, which doesn't like any tuning going above 250nm of torque. I would suggest you go with anything that has atleast 2 litres. Also on 4Motion Cars, You should change the haldex oil together with the Transmission oil. And make sure Dual Mass Flywheel can also fail.
I got a B6 with 225k (km) on the clock and only ever had to replace an injector (besides standard maintenance) and own a B8 alltrack which had a DSG (mechatronics unit) failure but luckily replaced under warranty. Otherwise seems fault free (for now at 150k km)
@ReDriven you should be glad Volkswagen didn't put plastic trims around the window/door frame. Every car I have had those on, squeaks and rattles where those strips were installed. Namely on a Holden Astra RS-V (otherwise solidly built) and on a 2004 Saab 9-3 Aero which had a whole bunch of other rattles - but still I'm convinced that's why they don't have them on this, my Skoda Octavia or any of the other cars I've owned.
Talk about 'nailing it' - I had a 2007 Passat and this B8 looks the same - exteriod look and feel, interior just looks high spec of the 2007 one, the design of the console is the SAME (USB, and parking breaks etc)... so... ok... (I had an eletrical issue where it would just STOP while driving... I sold it on) and after dXXXXXXgate nothing from the VW group every for me ..... but a GREAT video...
I have a 2016 Wagon fully optioned,AWD DSG All the features but.... If you are buying one of these make sure to try out that DSG quite a bit or just go for a Manual... Mine has now 2 days ago Failed... Serviced it regularly,but still shat itself... Reverse it want to die and sometimes shuts off,1 to 2 is a big Hit, being in 2nd is traumatizing because it randomly just cuts all the Drivetrain and can even stall completely,2-3 or 3-2 is kinda like being in 2.5 because it doesnt know in wich gear to be and then 3-4 it shifts to soon into 4th then realises its mistake and gets back to 3rd again and so over and over... mine is going ti cost 7200€ for a new gearbox...
That sucks. Sorry to hear. I have 6 speed Aisin in American built Passat. Works fine for me. And they are dirt cheap at wrecking yards should it fail .
Given the sharing of parts, is there any difference in ~10 year reliability of a Skoda Superb vs a VW Passat? At this point I'm leaning towards the Mazda 6 wagon which I know is smaller than both, but may be more reliable, and cheaper to fix if anything does go wrong.
Anyone noticed that the high beams are especially slow to react? Recline angle of the rear seats are a tad too upright.... And also somehow my left knee keeps hitting the center console...or is it just me...😅
Fixed a friends 2014 Passat. It had a broken fuel filler door release switch in the drivers door. So the car would not release fuel tank pressure. Could not put fuel in it. Despite the few positives of these cars, the stupidity of some of the design "features" will cost you all your money when they break. Same car, its driver door window motor wiring harness and connector got corroded. VW said there were something like ELEVEN different harnesses for that car, all at staggering prices. I just rebuilt the harness and connector using pins from junkyard VWs and told him to sell the car. Stay gold.
I have had a Skoda Superb 206TSI, the sibling of the Passat 206TSI, for 5 years. The water pump was replaced last year at 60k, it was the only issue I had. Service is not cheap, spark plug every 30k, Haldex every 45k, DSG every 60k.
We had 1 for 5 years from new sold it back to dealer at 75,000kms was an excellent car. Had a couple minor things go after the warranty period & VW replaced them parts no problem. In terms of storage in the sedan we fitted a 3 metre fold out market umbrella with stand in the back no problem with 2 humans up front 😎👍.
I live in Germany and when I'm on the autobahn and get passed like I'm standing still...5 out of 7 times, it's a Passat Estate. No muss or fuss, just flying.
Just wanted to let you guys know I ended up buying a car that I'd previously never considered until seeing your video. Was looking at a Stinger or maybe a 3.6l Liberty, but saw your review on the Lexus IS after it'd never even remotely been on the radar and thought that looked like a good thing. Ended up driving and falling in love with its brother the RC350 F Sport! Picked up my 2019 example this morning. Thanks Redriven!
Just a genuine question-I hope Jim is doing well? I noticed he looks and sounds less energetic than usual and speaks in a slower tone than normal. Or maybe because it’s too many things go wrong with VAG cars 🙃
I wish they made an AWD Mazda 6 wagon, with the 2.5t, but I do love these Passats it’s a shame they have all but killed them off now. I had an Octavia RS wagon but the engine went poopy and I don’t think I’ll ever buy another VAG car again as just too expensive.
No intention of buying a car at the moment or a VW ever…but yet here I am, just watching cause you guys make great videos.
Same
Thank you so so much mate, this means more than you know. - AK
Yea buy a Holden or Ford lol.
As a viewer from Europe (Sweden) I state this:
Owned quite a few VAG cars during the years. All DSG-box, both diesel and petrol.
My verdict is affordable cars with a high level of comfort and attention to deatails.
High end engines are very potent indeed. The lower specs is a dream to own regarding ownership costs. No issues worth mention in any of the cars. But maybe, I was just lucky 🙂
Thanks guys for another Great review!
How long did you tend to keep them for before changing vehicles?
I suspect Europeans get better quality cars, AU/US gets lower quality cars on purpose as they know we are spenders and will buy Euro brand regardless.
Keep in mind Sweden has much harsher climate than AU but cars still last. We get lemons
Agreed, VW cop bad reviews based on reliability issue from years ago. Absolutely solid platforms now, reliable, powerful, well made....period.
@@Mububban23 Avg 4 years. Noone, except one was purchased new.
My friend had a new 2018 golf GTi and had to get the entire engine replaced under warranty. Soooo... That put me off no end!
Have a 1.8 version with the DSG dry clutch. Done 185k plus kmh so far. No major issues. Replaced the dry clutch pack twice under warranty and had some issues with the water pump. But other than that, all other work carried out are nothing unusual compared to any other cars I’ve owned before.
It’s an average car in town but a joy to drive once the road opens and you’re doing speed above 120 kmh. Power delivery is very good, the car is light on its feet, you don’t feel the overhang on the front. You can make sudden turns midway without upsetting its composure. Have done a max of 242kmh. Still stable and refined.
It’s pretty spacious too and with a big booth (more than 500 litres) to match.
The only other problem I’ve had (maybe it’s specific to me) is the drivers seat which doesn’t seem to support my back as well as I’ve would like. Could be due to my weight which is 90plus kgs.
From exchanging notes amongst fellow friends who drive the Passat, the one common thing we notice is that most owners who have complains about the reliability of their Passats are almost without fail, the ones who tend to drive their car slowly and gently. The Passat is meant to be driven fast and hard. The car loves this. Wear and tear will be there but overall we have very little issues with the car compared to those driving it gently. So go out and go hard on these. I usually use the manual gears on the highway and the acceleration and overtaking is such joy, the car able to keep up with cars that have supposedly far more power.
Lovely car. Wish I had purchased the 2.0 version though.
My brother had a 140TDI Highline, it was a great car, bought a 2015 build in early 2016 had sold it in 2021, he had no real issues with it (unlike the Tesla he replaced it with) the only issue I ever recall was the AC would intermittantly not work and it took the dealership 3 goes to diagnose and fix it (from memory he gave it to them for a couple days and told them to drive it) it was brilliant on fuel (we drove Sydney to Brisbane on less than half a tank) and the ride was extremely comfortable.
Love my MY21 B8.5 206TSI Wagon and MY18 3H 206TSI Arteon - surprised with the volume of negatives here - I struggle to think of a better bang for buck car.
The arteon 206 is an incredible car for the money especially with a tune
I'm actually looking to either purchase a Passat R Line 2017 or an Arteon R line 2017.
I have one kid under the age of 1 years old. Both back boots are more than enough for me.
I'm not sure which I'd like better. I would prefer the one that's more comfortable of a drive.
Could you give me your opinion?
@@TurkMovementhey mate, I know you didn’t ask me - but I’m also curious about the Arteons as you can get in an early year model low k’s for under $40k now…
If you have a kid under 1 and have car seats - I’d highly suggest testing getting the car seat in/out in the arteon. Being a fastback you’re squished getting it sorted! The Passat may prove to be the better choice there with the flat roofline. Just my $0.02
Had my passat 206 Rline wagon for 5 years, literally not a single thing you mention for the exterior and interior has been an issue. The only thing I've done is replace the waterpump at 100k km, standard VW issue. Best sleeper on the road!
I don't find them sleepers. Aren't that quick.
Totally agree VW are a great car for those who treat a car well and know how to do basic maintenance
@@davothegreat9990 129.6 kW/t and 0-100kmh in 5.5 second is pretty quick mate.
@@Lazy_Tim elantra n dct is front wheel drive with less traction and is quicker than that and cheaper.
@@davothegreat9990different segments
I've got the exact spec in this video, done 180kms. I've never had an issue, bar some cosmetic bits and pieces. It's rapid, it's refined, handles like a gem and has more kit than most specs of 3 series do today. Real world fuel eco of 7.3/100.I know VWs get maligned but I've been right on or before with servicing the whole journey and it's been a brilliant car. It does ride a bit stiff over bumps with the low profiles and 19s. Swapped to Michelin sports from the factory pirellis. There can be some slight creaking in front shocks but it's a known issue when servicing you can get across easily. I've just got a work car and I won't be selling my Passat, I'll keep it for weekend road trips because I don't think you can get any more car for the 20k it's worth.
I agree on the 19's. Test drive in Passat R/line changed my choice to !7's on an SE. Rides much better. Im old. LOL
I've had 12 Vag machines now, and despite all the perceived issues, I've been happy with pretty much all of them from my 79' golf to my 15' S3 - More so than any of my 3 Hondas, one of my two Subarus and some of my 18 Toyotas (yeah, I've been around a few years lol)
I've been waiting for this video, brilliant! Thanks Adam and Jim, love your work!
I've had 4 VWs and including two B8 Passats (a 140TDI and currently a 206TSI) and have absolutely loved them all. The only issue I've ever had was the ad-blue sensor going in the diesel at about 80,000 clicks, otherwise the 200,000 k's that I've done in my VW's have been a dream. I plan on keeping my current 206 sedan (one of the last delivered to Australia) forever, so hope they become a bit of a classic. My VW's have never failed to bring a smile to my face, hopefully I have many more years of enjoying the brand and the associated controversy!
I have a 206tsi and I absolutely love it. They nailed the B8 design inside and out. Can confirm the water pump reliabilty is not the best. Maintenance is essential on these cars. Not for the people that don't service their car on time.
I wonder if most people who have problems *have* serviced their cars on time, and it's just crappy VW build quality? I'm so tempted by a Passat wagon but I'd want it for 10+ years so not sure I want to gamble on it...
@@Mububban23not really if you service your car on time it helps in the long run. It all depends if the pervious owner took care of the car if it's used sometimes you don't get lucky and things break. It's not only volkswagen every car manufacturers you run into a problem just do your research and look at TH-cam reviews.
@@Mububban23buy an ev if you want that. Will be so much cheaper only tyres and pricey insurance
I've had a 2018 B8 Passat wagon for 5yrs now. Never had an issue apart from needing a new alternator. I totally understand the comment about everyone thinking you're an unmarked cop car. The amount of drivers that slow down once I'm behind them is hilarious. Bloody love this car, it has everything, looks, performance and practicality.
Lol …I’ve just bought a 2016 R model in a dark grey, few months ago …..and yes I’m getting the same response
Just sold mine last month after ticking over 5 years ownership. Was the best car I've ever had right up until it hit 90k km's. At that point the water pump was leaking, the DSG would throw itself into neutral at any speed - IE total power loss whether you're doing 20kmh or 110kmh. Completely threw my confidence in the car and at that point I knew it was time to off load it. Quotes to fix the water pump and DSG were eye watering, and the comments at 11:57 about the DSG always being on the back of your mind is spot on. Ultimately traded it in for peanuts on a new RAV4, and it certainly feels like a step up in reliability but a huge step down in comfort and features. For the first 90k km's it was a dream car. But the potential for being a money pit around the 100k mark onwards it's hard to recommend them, or any other VW/Audi Group car.
skill issue. next time take care of the DSG and change the fking oil at 30k max 50k
What a shit take. You can change the fluids as much as you like, even if the dealership won’t. Doesn’t change the fact that the mechatronics unit in these is a sealed unit, and my issues were electrical faults, nothing to do with the fluids. VW and electrical gremlins go hand in hand.
My mk4 Golf still going strong after 24 years. Never let me stranded or whatsoever. Those were the glory days by VAG
@@eggbirdtheroostercouldn’t agree more. Cabin quality and comfort level have never been better but the reliability has taken a huge dive and I’ve ruled them out for the foreseeable future.
I'm at 228,000km and the DSG issues have just begun - fell out of gear while driving (free revving), and then finally wouldn't move when it was in gear (just revved on the spot). I'd be interested to hear what your wiring issues were, because mine is currently sitting at the mechanic waiting to be looked at (they suspect wiring, given the faults that have been thrown all at the same time). I've done the water pump twice (once under warranty at 40,000km and once more as a precaution at 190,000km). But aside from that, it has been an incredibly reliable car - in 8 years, never broke down, until yesterday! I'm about to buy another one because I love the car so much.
(in Europe) Had a 2015 176KW/240hp BiTdi wagon and it was amazing.
Waterpump along with the belt needs to be done every 120k and dual mass flywheel every 180-200k.
I bought it in 2021 with 186k on the odometer and sold it in January this year with 232k. in that time the only thing I had to replace, that was not regular maintenence waas the rear corner light. the car was extremeley reliable. No DSG issues, No haldex issues, no electrical issues. Just a really great and quick car.
The most expensive service was the flywheel at 200k. it cost about 1.4k with a regular oil change service.
I've never had a problem with the DSG's in traffic or around town being clunky or jerky. The key is to be gentle with the throttle and they're sweet.
Same, DSG is an outstanding gearbox, Zero issues.
Purchased an MY21 206 wagon last year to replace an MY17 Octavia RS wagon.
The improvement in the interior is very noticeable - much better fit out and aesthetics.
As mentioned the seats in the Passat are great both front and rear. The 206 gets soft Nappa leather. Car does long distance trips easily.
I also like the fact the Passat has a full sized spare
Both have a Stg 1 tune so the 4wd is very beneficial. The bigger turbo in the Passat does take a little longer to spool up.
Was surprised the fuel line rattle I had in the Octavia also surfaced in the Passat. Not a big deal I guess as both were an easy fix under warranty.
No other issues of note in the Passat which is sitting on 28k.
The Octavia had an issue with one of the steering wheel scroll wheels fixed under warranty. It also developed a cooling leak at 90k caused by an O ring failure - was a $2 fix. Still had the original water pump when sold.
Both great cars - especially in wagon form - but it seems most don’t see it that way.
Anyone looking at a later model Passat should note that the MY23 Passats are affected by the chip shortage and as such have some safety items removed. Was the reason I went for a slightly older one.
How does the 206 compare to the RS in term of fun, handling and stop start smoothness?
@@queanbeyanking
The Octavia is more nimble. You can feel the weight difference between the two. If I’m being realistic the Passat suits the sort of driving I do better and I do like the traction it offers.
I always turn off the stop/start so can’t comment with any authority on that. In the Octavia I could turn it off permanently via a ODB tool. VW stopped that in later models so I have to press a button each time in the Passat.
I enjoy my proline wagon quite a lot. Not without its faults but what I was most amazed by is its fuel economy. Over 1400km per tank on the hwy and around 1000 suburban/town. It takes 95 ron which stings a bit at the pump but that is a rare thing now. 74000 km and no issues mechanically but it’s due for a service in a cpl weeks and compared to our Rav it’s bloody expensive. All in all happy with it.
I’ve got a B7 (couldn’t afford anything newer) and I love it, diesel, and I drive 70km each way for work and get 4.9L per 100 going 120kph the whole way, full tank gives me 1,480km to empty. I had a turbo Territory before this, which got 14.1L per 100 if I babied it… and this car’s fuel usage has saved me enough money to buy a whole another territory.
My only complains are the electronic tailgate which was dodgy, had to get it converted to manual. The dash in mine also rattled, but you can remove the shroud and insert a screw which VW decided to not have one in, and it’s gone. Occasionally the Bluetooth will freeze. The headlights are the base model halogen ones, and if I want projector ones with DRL’s then I’ll need to fork out a ton and get them coded. However the halogen drl’s I simply swapped out for white LED’s and it greatly enhances the look. No car play, but when I get money I’ll get a VW head unit with it, they’re easy to find online.
Overall I really enjoy the car ❤
I have a B7 as well. It has the 1.8 TSI and even that is amazingly economical. It is a great driving car and if the driver's electric window switch worked properly it would be even better. All the horror stories about blown engines kinda freak me out but I did have an EJ25 powered Liberty so I must like to live dangerously.
Ah, it seems like not much has changed at VW. As a young fella, many years ago, I treated myself to my first new car, a VW Passat Wagon. Oh dear, what a truckload of misery that was. It rattled, it squeaked, it leaked water, dust seals failed allowing copious amount of dust into the cabin, it left me stranded roadside when rubbish left in the fuel tank from manufacture clogged the fuel line. I traded it after only 15 months, taking an almost 50% discount on the purchase price. It was, however very nice to drive, when it was going!
Wow! Sounds like the Alfas I’ve had!🤣
Lol I almost posted the exact same thing a couple comments up
My B7 Passat sounded like a box of spanners falling down a staircase every time I hit a bump. Never known any car to rattle and squeak as much.
Where tf do u get vws from man....and if u are outside of Europe u get cheap version of passat
It’s the NSW Police which are keeping this Passat relevant in the Market…
Saw a few of these as unmarked cars on my way to work several times in Melbourne.
Used Mazda 6 Petrols are quite expensive and diesel engines don't seem that strong? I went with a W204 C class instead, would love to see you review it.
My 206 RLine was the best car I've ever owned. After all the typical major repairs happened - water pump and thermostat, a/c compressor and condenser - it ran flawlessly and was the best car to drive that I've ever had. My brother bought it off me and he is currently driving it with no issues. I have a new Polo GTI now (my third VW, maybe I enjoy the thrill of VW 'reliability'), but always think back fondly on my Passat.
Volkswagen is reliable and basic maintenance is cheap and easy. Redriven should do a video DIY maintenance with Jim and AK shows how to drive and treat a car with mechanical sympathy
It is what?😅
Sorry but as an owner of a Passat B8 as much as I like the car I disagree on reliable, cheap and easy to maintain...
@@jamesbennett1691 maybe skimping on the maintenance part ? Skoda x 2 07, 11 Octavia diesel and turbo petrol reliable as. Regular dsg and engine oil changes. Wheel bearing and wear and tear items only.
my dads done 130,000km in his 2016 passat b8 wagon, its incredibly quick, actually surprisingly economical even round town and only thing its needed is a 80$ sensor and a waterpump. its been more reliable than my toyota.
Well, I'm not a qualified mechanic....but Jim is.
One of my favourites this one ...but I have my sights on the Arteon. Have had Skoda equivalents since they arrived here and they have been brilliant.
Adam I’ve got a 2017 Skoda Superb Sportline. So it’s basically the same underpinnings but of course different body. I absolutely love it & have not had an issue…to date!🤞🏻🙏🏻🤣 I also reckon the lack of plastic on the door surrounds looks unfinished. However mine is black so not as obvious. The 206kw engine & 4WD is a blast & has certainly caught a few wannabe racers out…up to 60kmh of course!😉 No rattles anywhere, no issues & for a 2017 model I still love the look of it. The highlights are the rear leg room & carrying capacity with the seats down.👍🏼😎
The Skoda is a slightly stretched Passat so an extra inch of legroom in the back and boot space. I think the skoda is a more handsome car than the Passat inside and out.
After narrowing my particular requirements down I was looking between the Passat 206TSI Wagon and the Skoda equivalent. I ended up going the Skoda in the end, and I am still (almost a year later) happy with the decision.
I needed a wagon with enough room to fit two large dogs, that was going to have enough grunt to be an enjoyable drive - I was coming from a BF2 XR6 Turbo.
I’ve got the 2017 model Sportline 206kw 4WD from new & still,love it! I also shopped it against the Passat & found fit & finish was a lot better then the VW! The carrying capacity is HUGE isn’t it?👍🏼😎
@@andrewd7586 People are constantly surprised how much boot space there is, and then they see the rear leg room and are blown away.
@@erehwon80 I get the same effect with my Mk4 Octavia RS hatch. Because Australian spec Mk4 Octavia's are missing the rear wiper, it just looks like a sedan. Then you open the hatch and it's huge. Even bigger if you've got the Superb.
@@aaaaplay The Superb hatch is kinda ludicrous really.
Adam looked like he wanted to kill the seagull at the end of the video.
Awesome work guys!
My problems with my 2016 station wagon:
1. Rattling sound from the steering wheel (maybe airbag)
2. Rattling sound from the left side of the window
And that's it. Always servising it on time keeps it run beautifully. Great machine! Still in love with it after owning it for 4 years. (I usually change cars after a year or two). This one is staying with me.
Literally seen this as I'm scrolling AutoTrader for B8 Passats. Fucking love this channel
Check out the Skoda superb too, especially the 206. Essentially the same car. Mine's been fantastic.
Get a Mazda instead! It saves you from headaches!
A second hand vw? Good luck brother.
@@GT-pl1wx I do a lot of miles so a diesel makes the most sense. The Mazda6 with the 2.2 diesel is the best option in that range, but the engine is horrifically unreliable. VW is far, far ahead in that aspect
@@bpgt1951 VW have made some cracking cars over the years. You just have to know what to look for. I'm not buying a ragged Golf GTI with a chameleon tint that stinks of vapes
I HAVE BEEN WAITING AGES FOR THIS!!! Thank you so much!!!
You’re welcome!
@@ReDrivenCould you review the Audi S3 please?
It’s very high on the list
I have a 2015 Sharan with Cup package. 2.0 TDi and DSG. Holy shit what a brilliant car that is. Its only now starting to get some DPF issues, after 320k km. Its very fast, agile, roomy and spacious and has a massive glass roof. Those Era VW can surprise for sure
I have a Passat CC diesel that my son now drives and I've owned for 12 years. It's been pretty much faultless mechanically. Still looks great, drives really well and is super comfortable with those sporty seats. The headlining needs replacing and the parking sensors have a bit of whinge, but other than that it's been good. A relative has an R line petrol sedan and that thing is fantastic. Looks super smart, goes pretty quick and has also had no issues.
I had a 2018 VW golf GTI and had the water pump, thermostat, 9.2 inch infotainment screen and lower front suspension arms all replaced without fuss under VW standard and extended warranty. The golf replaced a Hyundai which spent most of the 10 mths I owned it being fixed and arguing with Hyundai as they tried to renege on their warranty.
So in conclusion, no car is perfect and not all warranties are created equal.
Yes I’d buy another VW
an alternative ??
. . . Skoda Superb 206 all the way ! 👌
Why would anybody buy Skoda instead of VW. Brand is weak af, even VW is plebs car....Audi is where its at
@@gurusalami7261 pretty gross comment
@@gurusalami7261Are you aware that VW owns them all? And they are essentially the same cars underneath the skin?
The 2.0l BiTDI was a beauty to drive. upgraded to the golf infotainment screen and digital dash made it look really new too.
finally, my car on the channel, well not actually mine, but very similar. thanks for the video.
Ok, you may have persuaded me that I should try another VW (I'm on my third and it's a money pit), but I chuckled at the effect of people thinking you are an unmarked police car. I once got given a white Mercury Grand Marquis as a rental from Hertz on a business trip. It's basically a Ford Crown Victoria which was the standard police car in the early 2000s.
I drove from Raleigh NC to Kingsport TN, to Philadelphia PA, to New York in that thing and on the highway stretches I found people moving out of the way as I cruised up behind them in that big white barge before they spotted the Mercury badge wasn't a Ford one. 😄
I can see that happening. Lol
Just get a used Skoda Superb or Octavia RS, Same engines, drive train and gearbox, but much cheaper and more fun, not to mention the boot size being liftback instead of a boot Win win
6:37 I don't know why VW do this. I think its to differentiate between Audi and VW but it just feels unnecessarily cheap. For example I would actually prefer the Golf MK7 interior to the equivalent Audi A3 if VW bothered to put some trim around the door surrounds, but because they haven't the Golf interior just feels ever so slightly worse than the Audis.
The B8 Passat looks alright but I think for piece of mind I'd go the Mazda 6 just to be safe.
I will admit the amount of boot space is phenomenal from what you guys showed.
The gearbox shitting itself is what happened to someone I knew to there Passat but I'm not sure if it was a B8 or not. The do have another Passat wagon and I'll admit it is a nice looking car.
Great work as always guys and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍
I currently own a 206 R line wagon which I bought to replace my R36 & if you can find a good one on the used market nothing else comes close for performance, practicality & luxury at the price point. With a stage 1 tune they are seriously quick (easy sub 5 second 0-100) for a big wagon. Fit quality tyres & the handling & braking is up there with far more expensive Euro options too. The boot space & rear seat legroom is huge & I love being able to fold down a rear seat & chuck in surfboards. My family also owned a B8 140d Alltrack wagon for 4 years & apart from the waterpump failing at 160000kms I cannot fault that car either. The diesel engine is still very torquey & we averaged about 1000km per tank so economy is fantastic.
We had the same combo: R36 wagon his and 206tsi wagon hers 🎉🎉
hi, this is a bit random but i want to buy my first car and im looking at early 2010s, late 2000s VW Jettas and Passats. I have found a nice VW passat from 2012 that looks to be pretty good for under 10k, is this a good choice for a first car?
100% underrated - performance, practical and poised
I’ve got a 2018 bi-tdi wagon and mechanically it’s beyond brilliant… but the electronics and sensors are discusting. One fails, fix that then another goes (currently going through speed sensors) and stereo glitches. Owned VW’s for decades and this one has killed it for me.
I own a passat b8 132tsi wagon and have had the water pump replaced because it was leaking at the coolant reserve as they come as one fitting
Have had 5 VWs in total both in Aus and overseas and currently have a Golf8 R line. Only problem was a water pump failure after 65k in a Polo TSI. What I do know and stress that others should try is driving any VW model and comparing to any Asian car to see just how advanced VWs are. And, this video is not what I’ve experienced at all and in my lifetime, I’ve had many different marquees and judge VWs in a level of their own e.i. They sit in between luxury cars and mainstream cars.
I've got a 2017 (MY18 upgraded media screen) 206tsi R-Line sedan & I love it. We also have a 2017 Tiguan (which we also love). The 6 speed DSG auto is bullet proof compared to the 7 speed. Fuel economy is ridiculous considering how much power it has. It's fun to drive, fits 5 people comfortably, and I fit more in the boot than the Tiguan.
Avoid problems with the SCR and add blue set up by keeping the tank at least 60% full, Add blue residue crystallizes as the tank empties, the Cambelt interval for the 2,0 litre TDI is 210 k km.
I agree, I'm a bit mad about the fact that VW discontinued their sedans, because their Arteon and Passat sedans are one of my favourite cars, I current drive a 2014 passat and the fact that it still looks good is astonishing.
Just picked up a 2016 206tsi superb. It's a lot of car for what you can get them for
I have the Skoda wagon copy, water pump, pistons, rings, rebore, valves, 3 upgrades on the DSG, door cards, fuel gauge remote key fob (both). But the car drives so well when it is working. And yes, hot wagons are the best. Looks like either a Lexus (but no wagon in Oz, bugger) or a Superb wagon next.
I think you’re a qualified mind reader! How did you know that I’m looking at the Passat? Please review the Peugeot 508 GT too 👌🏽
Yesssssss current model 508 gt estate please
Is Jimbo ok?
Buying one that’s like brand new. 36k, R-line sedan. Looks and feels superb. Owned by family member, always garaged and serviced by VW.
having driven these and golfs, i have only one problem with them when it comes to driving them working: euro/opposite hand drive indicators /windscreen wiper stalks that dont match australian spec cars...if you go back and forth between the two different stalk positions, its a pain in the butt.
Great car....long live sports wagons! I'm onto my second 206TSI R-Line wagon. First B8 was fantastic, only the obligatory water pump at 40,000kms which VW covered under warranty. My current B8.5 offers even better ride, the factory suspension setup is sublime. Touch wood no issues. Overall extremely happy with these very underrated wagons. Acres of room, plenty of power & luxury, plus fantastic ride & handling. Best of all they're not overweight, overpriced, unwieldy and boring SUVs!
The Passat isn't dead in Europe...kind of. The B9 Passat is now only available as a wagon in Europe...not sure of China though.
Champion effort putting so many videos out…. Well done 👍
Here in West Aussie the coppers are using Passats as mufti-cars. All are a dark green nearly black colour.
NB have also sighted a subaru liberty as a mufti-car recently - exact same colour paint-jobbe....
Owned a 2015 Mazda 6 and it was the most boring car I've ever driven. Now driving a Skoda Superb Wagon with the absolutely brilliant 3.6 V6 engine and oh boy what a car it is. Whilst I've had a serious issue getting parts locally, had none getting them from overseas and in some cases they were cheaper than I could get locally (including postage) a couple of cases, also quicker! (had discs coming from Ingleburn to Brisbane that took 2 weeks but pads from Latvia turned up in 4 days!)
The comment you brought up about it looking like a HWP car is the 1 reason I hated owning my Commodores. People that were suspicious of your car instantly became a problem as they'd slow down and be a nuisance even more than they already were some to a point they actually did even stupider things to see if you would pull them over.
Had the B7 V6 and a Passat CC V6, both very nice cars that ran faultlessly, did about 60k in the B7 before trading it on the CC and did just shy of 100k in it.
I travel a lot and rent a lot of cars to drive around Australia and NZ. There was a time when Europcar used to rent Passat diesel wagons before VW were caught with their hands in the dodgy jar and diesels became as popular as poo in a hat. But of all the cars I've rented the Passat diesel wagon was just the best bloody car ever for a long journey. Fast, spacious, comfortable and unbelievably economical. I could drive from the Gold Coast to Cairns and get over 1,300kms out of a tank which meant just one fill up on a 2200km journey. I miss the Passat.
A mate of mine had one of these as a wagon. The sun roof leaked, letting water in and completely screwed the electronics. They got rid of it and bought a Skoda wagon .... gluttons for punishment?
A mate of mine treats his cars like shit and blames it on the car too
@@wyatthurts1729 No worries champ.
Perceived value.
Don't buy one with a sunroof. Problem solved.
My wife and I have had the good luck and pleasure of owning a B8 140 TDI R-Line sedan and a B8 206TSI R-Line wagon. They have both been superb cars. The Diesel would do as little as 4.6 L/100 on a highway run. The 206 wagon we still own. We did have annoying body flex rattles in the 140 which had a sunroof and we recently had the obligatory failed water pump in the 206. But otherwise, no other dramas. The 140 has now been replaced with a Cupra Formentor VZX. As good as the Cupra is, if i was to drive from say Brisbane to Sydney tomorrow i would take the Passat, such is its great comfort, ride, practicality and lovely dynamics. They are the best cars VW makes. I would buy another Passat in a heartbeat, but sadly they are dropping them from the VW lineup. SUV's have become a curse. Maybe i might need to get a Skoda Superb wagon which is the closest alternative.
The A team at their best 👍
Hey what’s the chances of you guys doing a CX-9? The 2.5t SkyActiv version
Jim, is the Skoda Superb comparable? better or worse mechanically?
Looking at getting a B7 Passat Alltrack, do you have a review on that ??
I have a 63 reg 1.4 tsi.60 k trouble free miles.Expect it will be good for many years to come.
I know nothing about European cars. Retired at 39😅.
😂😂
So what are you doing now,?
@@paulsz6194 Relaxing, swimming, camping, feeding the cat and creating wisdom on you-tube.
@@freeagent8225 Lucky you 🍀. so what is the wisdom you have created recently? Is it viewable here on YT?
@ReDriven please do a review on Passat CC models and their common problems
Jim looks a bit unwell, I hope you are ok!
The Passat ain't a bad car but I would honestly suggest to change the transmission oil every 60k km and do your engine a favor and change the oil every 10k km. The Diesel ones are really fricking great in reliability but make sure, Water pump works properly, because no matter what engine spec you buy, these things always fail at some point. Also if you are about to get the smaller engines like the 1.6 TDi with 120hp or 1.5 TSi with 150hp. Those come with a dry clutch transmission, which doesn't like any tuning going above 250nm of torque. I would suggest you go with anything that has atleast 2 litres.
Also on 4Motion Cars, You should change the haldex oil together with the Transmission oil. And make sure Dual Mass Flywheel can also fail.
The DSG (DQ250) and Haldex service interval is 3yr or 60k and you're right, get on top of them and zero issues.
I got a B6 with 225k (km) on the clock and only ever had to replace an injector (besides standard maintenance) and own a B8 alltrack which had a DSG (mechatronics unit) failure but luckily replaced under warranty. Otherwise seems fault free (for now at 150k km)
Can you please review VW CC VR6 4motion? I'm really thinking of getting that as I love the R36 :)
@ReDriven you should be glad Volkswagen didn't put plastic trims around the window/door frame. Every car I have had those on, squeaks and rattles where those strips were installed. Namely on a Holden Astra RS-V (otherwise solidly built) and on a 2004 Saab 9-3 Aero which had a whole bunch of other rattles - but still I'm convinced that's why they don't have them on this, my Skoda Octavia or any of the other cars I've owned.
unrelated question, where's that cool bridge in the background at the start of the video
Talk about 'nailing it' - I had a 2007 Passat and this B8 looks the same - exteriod look and feel, interior just looks high spec of the 2007 one, the design of the console is the SAME (USB, and parking breaks etc)... so... ok... (I had an eletrical issue where it would just STOP while driving... I sold it on) and after dXXXXXXgate nothing from the VW group every for me ..... but a GREAT video...
Oh, I replaced it with a Mazga 6 wagon ....
I have a 2016 Wagon fully optioned,AWD DSG All the features but.... If you are buying one of these make sure to try out that DSG quite a bit or just go for a Manual... Mine has now 2 days ago Failed... Serviced it regularly,but still shat itself... Reverse it want to die and sometimes shuts off,1 to 2 is a big Hit, being in 2nd is traumatizing because it randomly just cuts all the Drivetrain and can even stall completely,2-3 or 3-2 is kinda like being in 2.5 because it doesnt know in wich gear to be and then 3-4 it shifts to soon into 4th then realises its mistake and gets back to 3rd again and so over and over... mine is going ti cost 7200€ for a new gearbox...
That sucks. Sorry to hear. I have 6 speed Aisin in American built Passat. Works fine for me. And they are dirt cheap at wrecking yards should it fail .
Given the sharing of parts, is there any difference in ~10 year reliability of a Skoda Superb vs a VW Passat?
At this point I'm leaning towards the Mazda 6 wagon which I know is smaller than both, but may be more reliable, and cheaper to fix if anything does go wrong.
Anyone noticed that the high beams are especially slow to react? Recline angle of the rear seats are a tad too upright.... And also somehow my left knee keeps hitting the center console...or is it just me...😅
Fixed a friends 2014 Passat. It had a broken fuel filler door release switch in the drivers door. So the car would not release fuel tank pressure. Could not put fuel in it. Despite the few positives of these cars, the stupidity of some of the design "features" will cost you all your money when they break. Same car, its driver door window motor wiring harness and connector got corroded. VW said there were something like ELEVEN different harnesses for that car, all at staggering prices. I just rebuilt the harness and connector using pins from junkyard VWs and told him to sell the car.
Stay gold.
I had a 2019 A3 S-line. even that thing had bear metal in the door frame
Our one has add blue sensor issue as well the tank is full but it keep showing the alerts about add blue level is low and will finish soon
I have had a Skoda Superb 206TSI, the sibling of the Passat 206TSI, for 5 years. The water pump was replaced last year at 60k, it was the only issue I had. Service is not cheap, spark plug every 30k, Haldex every 45k, DSG every 60k.
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What are the easy to add options that gets mentioned in this video? at 8:25 ?
Had a B8 Passat for four years. Not a single thing went wrong with it.
Lol .. never heard that before VW and best in one sentence 😂
They are excellent. Nothing else in the segment comes close.
We had 1 for 5 years from new sold it back to dealer at 75,000kms was an excellent car. Had a couple minor things go after the warranty period & VW replaced them parts no problem. In terms of storage in the sedan we fitted a 3 metre fold out market umbrella with stand in the back no problem with 2 humans up front 😎👍.
I live in Germany and when I'm on the autobahn and get passed like I'm standing still...5 out of 7 times, it's a Passat Estate. No muss or fuss, just flying.
Just wanted to let you guys know I ended up buying a car that I'd previously never considered until seeing your video.
Was looking at a Stinger or maybe a 3.6l Liberty, but saw your review on the Lexus IS after it'd never even remotely been on the radar and thought that looked like a good thing.
Ended up driving and falling in love with its brother the RC350 F Sport! Picked up my 2019 example this morning.
Thanks Redriven!
No worries! Glad you’re enjoying it!
one of the most beautiful cars ever made
WOW! Approaching 250K subs!!!🕺
Next up should be a video about the B7, which is over 10 years old now
Just a genuine question-I hope Jim is doing well? I noticed he looks and sounds less energetic than usual and speaks in a slower tone than normal. Or maybe because it’s too many things go wrong with VAG cars 🙃
What would but instead?
An Arteon , the fancier Passat 😜
Just bought one so keen to see how it goes
Had mine for 3 years no issues, great car 👍
Exactly the same engine and drivetrain as the passat (and Mk7 Golf R), I've had zero issues other than the waterpump at 100k. Enjoy mate.
@@kenlawton1531 can’t wait, just waiting for it to be transported to me
I wish they made an AWD Mazda 6 wagon, with the 2.5t, but I do love these Passats it’s a shame they have all but killed them off now. I had an Octavia RS wagon but the engine went poopy and I don’t think I’ll ever buy another VAG car again as just too expensive.
I have a Chinese made B8.5 GTE PHEV, pulls like a train and no major issues, average 4.8L/100KM.
Love your Reviews Guys !!! Really Lovely !!! Can you do it VW CC 12-17 manual please 🙏
Can you guys review a Honda Accord V6?