Space Busters | Fly to Space With No Thrusters or Wheels? | Space Engineers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2019
- Our thrusters are broken. Our wheels are popped. How will we make it to space? Well I've got a couple of ideas. In this episode of Space Busters, we explore a bunch of possible unconventional ways that we could make it to space without using thrusters or wheels! Will we make it to the final frontier or will we remain unable to escape the unforgiving clutches of gravity?
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1:41
Wheel is completely gone
Andrew: welp we’ve got a flat tire
flattened to a single dimension. Can't get flatter than that.
@@madhijz-spacewhale240 what about 0 dimensions.
HyperCatsInSpace the ramp was also broken
Wait... in the center of the planet, is there any natural gravity (i.e. is P-Gravity = 0)?
Because if there i no natural gravity in the center because it cancels itself out, MAYBE Jumprives would work then in the planet as long as you're in the center!
Oh good point! The gravity at the center does approach 0, but idk if it actually ever is 0. Still would be interesting to find out!
@@AndrewmanGaming the center of the planet has 0g for quite a large area. I've seen someone dig out the center of the planet
It womt work, because jumpdrives not only dont work inside natural gravity, but also they dont go through natural gravity... thing is, jump drives have a min range of 5km so a planet that has a smaller 0G area inside its core than 5km cant make jumpdrives work, sadly thats every planet in SE
nope, because theres still atmosphere
I was thinking exactly this. I have to wonder
Also if you stand on a ton of rotors, then instantly change the height offset to max, since the change is made instantly in game, you get ludacris speeds.
Isn't this how the rotor offset cannon works?
Anon Kun yeb
Lesson learned;
One does not summon Klang
One does not invoke Klang
One does not order Klang
Klang decides to come if/when the proper sacrifices are performed. Blood must be spilled.
It is possible to learn such power... But not from a jedi.
You do not summon Clang. Clang summons you!
May the Klang be with you, engineer.
intro was a bit long and yes it was cringey....
keep doing it
agreed
he's the king of cringe
@@manitoba-op4jx tik tok is the king of cringe
@@gregdennert4441 trarraia is the king of cringe
There’s something called a clang drive. It’s a rotor with a merge block. It spins around and pulls on another merge block, pulling it up
Clumsy Captain took awhile to find another clang drive user.
Super Jr King it’s an old craft, but a powerful one.
How to make it into space?
Destroy the planet using various techniques of leaving the atmosphere.
No planet left = space = cookies! (= computer probably melting beforehand due to Clang).
But I liked the intro. Just FYI.
I actually thought of having one of the "ways" being cheating. So I would open up SEToolbox and edit my location or the planet's location. Technically it is a way! I just didn't think it would be as fun to see.
Intro was a bit cringe, but funny. 10/10 would recommend doing it more often
WAIT! if bombs can propel you to space, can you make project orion in space engineers?
Dooooo iiiiiiiit
interestingly, I'm actually attempting that, it is much harder than it first seems, as the drive keeps getting warheads stuck in it and blowing it up, but it might work at some point.
@@edwardboatman4554 use a timer block to arm after it leaves ship and then detonate when its in the right position maybe?
@@edwardboatman4554 Perhaps a combination of gravity blocks and gravity generators would help?
Use wielders to repair or rebuild damage parts and with a crap ton of timer blocks it could work lol
Getting to space without Thrusters or Wheels is pretty easy, you can always build a leaning tower.
He said he wasn't going to do that
I didn't notice
Orioned yourself to space XD
Wonder if you could make a proper Orion in SE...
i think so? warheads on timers and a self healing pusher plate?
Yes, it's possible. Modified welders holding a shield and putting new warheads in front of them.
Timers to start cooldown and release welded warheads.
The attempt with the warheads is actually a legit way. Look up Pulse Drives!
During cold war, scientists experimented with those. They built a large bowl kinda structure that dispensed explosives downwards which detonated shortly after, lifting the thing higher and higher off the ground.
If I'm not mistaking, the regular thrusters on rockets actually work the same, just at much higher frequencies, that we perceive them as a continous blast.
There have been theoretical atomic pulse drives created. Just same as a regular pulse drive, but much bigger and near indestructible. It was essetially a large hole in the ground covered by a massive lid. In that hole they'd detonate a nuclear bomb and the blastwave would catapult the lid straight up into orbit.
Other comments mention this, too, I just realized. The project was called "Project Orion". I just had forgotten the name. :)
If you made the hole wider, like, an extra blast or two in Radius, the Gravity Generators would've worked much easier, with more explosions and less disintegrations.
The Catapult idea was functional, however you needed to tweak it a bit:
1: it needed a pair of flanking Free Flowing Rotors, attached to a single Station (picture a Catapult, the midsection is elevated for more torque and stability)
2: use an On/Off button (Max the torque with all Rotors off first so it will just launch when you turn it on)
3: remove the "Pod" (you want just a 1 wide rod, with the button on the second to last block)
4: line the entire back end with Gyros, front end too if you don't mind the extra work
5: turn the Wall into a Brick, you want a massive amount of Weight to just Launch you, and you can use the added blocks to layer in more Gyros (you can keep it in place using a Merge Block attached to a Station)
Also, you said no Elevators, but what about Frogs? You can build a 10 Piston long downwards facing Piston to kick off the ground at high speed, and potentially explode in spectacular fashion.
Speaking of Pistons: they're Wings! The boat at the end that you said was Dead, when you "revived" it, you found the sweet spot, the Pistons weren't working because they're vertical! Make em Horizontal, and facing each other with a 1 block vertical offset. You said no *OBVIOUS* Piston Elevators!
P. S. Great intro, but it would've been better if you shot the "road" to space up to deform it and just flung yourself off the track, because most people can replace a Wheel, but an entire Road? Much less one that goes to space, that might have a few inverted Gravity Generators that push instead of pull? That's a pretty narrow skill set, plus you gotta fight gravity to replace the Generator parts, such a pain ;P
Oh, and heavy Armor for additional durability & damage resistance.
And yes, the Jump Drive should theoretically work from the Planet's Core, as it only needs 0.00 P. Gravity
26:05
"Speedrunners HATE him!!! See how he got to SPACE in a few easy steps!"
Also,
"When you want to run a space agency, but your a demolition company"
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Rule 1 of Clang.......... You dont control clang, clang controls you
one doesn not simply control clang, you'd have to sacrifice a pig to the gods of clang daily, before you could ask light help from clang himself
Fun fact. Actual research was done on the use of explosives as propulsion in space. Specifically, nukes. It was called project Orion
@AndrewmanGaming I have made a ship called the Dumbinator. It uses a large Rocket Launcher, that shoots on the ship itself. The ship can accelerate over 100m/s (with no mods) and is not being damaged in the process for some reason. I managed it once to move it an the earth‘s atmosphere, but it is really hard to control. In space it works fine.
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1369409568&searchtext=Dumbinator
Your videos are great, man! You always have some neat project to work on, and you get to the result in fun and sometimes goofy ways that turn out a solid answer for the initial question.
Absolutely loved this vid. I felt you could have made a klang drive with a tower of rotors, like the one you made in Space Busters when you beat the 100km speed limit. Also, I think the intro was great. Keep asking crazy questions. They’re the ones that get you to space!
What about a jump drive from the centre of the planet?
P grav is close to 0 but never 0 in atmosphere
@@MrR3set It is so damn close still worth a shot I'd say throw one block in that area like he did with all of the blocks and wherever that block ends up becoming still check that spot out to see what the p gravity is at that spot. In real life their is always gravity even where it seems to be almost 0.
Best SE TH-camr. Please keep doing the stuff that you do.
Us Engineers will always stay by your side.
2:28
Rotor clang is a product of torque. If you want to use it to do anything other then spin around in circles, you'll have to counter it with an equal and opposite force of torque in the opposite direction, just like a helicopter
Explosions will never propel you in a consistent direction. You have to be inside some sort of tunnel to avoid going off course, like the barrel of a gun. Instead of fiddling with a bunch of explosives, you'll want to build a giant expulsion cannon pointed towards the exit vector, and then just figure out how many explosives you have to set off in it in order to propel your cargo to the escape velocity
SE's engine has a limit on angular velocity, so you can only spin something so fast before it snaps from the torque. It seems difficult to even get to this speed in atmosphere, though
I remember merge block based clang drives used to work. One stationary merge block in the direction you want to go then have another on a rotor passing it repeatedly. Make it symmetrical with two mirrored drives to have even thrust.
I wasn't expecting this to be so silly and fun xD haha
DirectedEnergy immediately thought you'd be making an elevator when the original stipulations were laid out. Color us impressed that you also made pistons and rotors "illegal" in your project.
I like how one of your attempts is you just trying to be a human Project Orion.
I've gotten this to work in a server before, so you gotta get enough rotors and pistons so it doesn't bug out but it wants to. Then when they are compressed, detach and they should all shoot off, sending you into space.
3 is better then 1... great words of wisdom!!! :)
I got some serious Wiley coyote vibes watching this. This was great!
It might be fun having a scenario where there are these perversions of physics randomly travelling around a world in a survival game.
The power of Clang propels you!
The intro reminded me of group survival with captain shack and his crew so that was all good with me! Great vid :D
Loved the intro. You're a thoughtful bright dude
Andrew, you gotta revisit this if you haven't yet. Jump drives from the center of the planet is a new way to try.
You could also make a type of rail gun that uses sensors to detect your player. The sensors then detonate warheads one at a time in a line to propel you forward faster and faster, hopefully fast enough to reach escape velocity. (Maybe turn off block damage or build it out of blast doors so it doesn't destroy itself).
Also, a clang machine that uses 4 pistons, one on each side of you, one in front and one behind, all pushing upwards SLOWLY and that are set to extend barely past the block they are pushing into. I feel like yours just didn't work bc they were pushing too far or too fast or both.
You could also Make a trebuchet with artificial mass blocks as the counter weight for maximum acceleration. Use a connector at the tip so you can precisely control the release.
Also if you get the aerodynamic surfaces mod, you could guide your mass block gravity generator craft down the tunnel without using thrusters.
Also you could pile a few thousand warheads together and set the timer to make them all detonate at the same time while you stand on top. These are just a few more ideas you could try.
Oo and maybe build a batting machine to bat you out of the atmosphere like a baseball 😂
Edit: or a pitching machine that uses fast spinning wheels or rotors to pitch you..
Also, here’s a trivial way: super long ladders or space elevators with pistons and merge blocks which runs on a central shaft.
Here’s more controllable clan: use two cargo containers full of stuff, one advanced rotor in between, one battery and a programmable block.
as soon as you started climbing that ladder and the start of the video i though you were just gonna climb a ladder to space lol
A piston and two landing gear with a few timer blocks - have the landing gear engage and disengage as it crawls it's way up a pole to space = far easier that what you were doing :P
Your intro story telling was fun to watch
Great video, it's gives me a much ideas to think of :D
and I have a suggestion to try out ;)
You can make a rod and connect it by it's 1/3rd or 1/4th or whatever ratio you want to try, with the rotor and set them for free spin, then just put the piston above the short side of the rod and punch it with the piston :D, just stand on the other side, set the piston(s) to max velocity in a group and put a button and push it :D
Basically it's like you stand on some wood plank over the barrel on one side and the other person jumps on to the other side :D
The piston reminds me of the prop climbing exploit in the unpatched, release version of HL2 that DeSync loves so much. There might be something there to perfect.
I love your energy
I like this intro, keep doing something like this.
about the grav thing: you could use a 2-rotor aiming device and completely skip the gyro . Just make sure that your tunnel is 100% straight and 90° to the surface.
Alright, hear me out. Safeshield + VERY fast ship + bonk = Space
I just had a weird idea. Since subgrids can't damage each other (apparently) if you put some blocks on rotors and make them push each other at a right timing, that can, possibly, get you to space, Klang willing.
Watches intro.
"Well, that's two and a half minutes I'm never getting back."
Hey Andrew, your channel is THE BEST, if you have time I think you should be playing StormWorks, great game physics and has a goal that makes you play, try it please
that intro was a very good idea for the beigining of the video
You should try merge blocked piston heads with different target positions, that seems to give a less chaotic clanginess
I don’t think the intro was cringy! I liked it a lot
the Klangdrive was my favorite idea. never considered trying to harness the power of klang.
the gigantic catapult could possibly have done it with enough rotors and a deep pit in the ground for spin room.
Can you use gravity generators to push loose blocks up if the gravity generators are facing down and the blocks bellow it?
If you set up a sensor system to auto correct the movements, the gravity drive ideal might just work.
There is a drive system that uses mass transference to move stone or another material between two cargo containers located on either side of an advanced rotor. A script is used to move the mass into the back most container, then extends the displacement, then it moves the mass to the front and retracts the displacement.
Anything that makes the vids last longer mate is fine by me... Always great content..
You should try the clang with slower controlled pistons. If you can get to a safe hovering state, you can probably do it.
Needs more Arnie. "Get to da cookies!"
This is my opinion, Of course explosions would work, thrusters are just a controlled explosions.
Intro was a nice change from the norm
Is it possible to put multiple pistons in the ground, so compressed they're at ground level, then rapidly fire a platform (with you on it) upwards?
You should look into the clang drive on the workshop. It uses the attractive force between merge blocks to propel a ship
Andrew: No pistons or routers
Also Andrew: (Uses them both)
I have a space busters challenge/question:
If you make a chamber on a earthlike planet and pump out the air, would Ion Thrusters work in that Vacuum?
What about Atmospheric thrusters?
I once thought off a design for a tower to space, where you would use ion engines in a vacuum tube (similar to a hyperloop) to get to a point high above the planets surface. Ideally so high, that ships can be parked there without needing atmospheric or hydrogen thrusters.
Your explosives idea is close to real life. It was actually proposed as a way to get a large ship to space by dropping nuclear bombs from the bottom and detonating them in order to produce thrust. It was in the 1950s and called Project Orion
using that gravity gyro theory put guide wheels so it basically rolls up the hole you might stand a better chance of making it out completely from the planets center
What can you use to dig up, and what of it can dig a certain area faster that can you do it with proper mining ship?
You could do it with garv gen if you have gravitation borders at the side of the hole. then it would work even autonomus
MEE6 worked *finally* (also, you're a madman Andrew...)
when it comes to going straight up the hole, you couldve just used merge blocks to detatch and have it already perfectly lined up
flying to space using explosions is actually something that has been experimented on in real life with the Orion project. the craft would have a heavy shield on the bottom with a port that would shoot a small nuclear charge that would detonate just below the shield and it would do that over and over until the craft is eventually in space. and it IS possible and was proven in some small scale tests but it would just be really bad with all the radiation, among other things.
Pistons that are extending but being held by landing gears to stop it should clang pretty well
You knew when you made that poll what we would choose! Hahah
Haha I actually had no idea what to do for this episode when I did the poll. Also I think I typed it wrong in my ideas list. The original goal was to get to space using wheels and a ramp. But it all works out just the same!
@ AndrewmanGaming is it possible to use a rail gun and or gravity cannon like launch tube built into the ground to get to space?
Turns out the Klang Drive need some more refinements haha
That was funny i like this guy
@39:01 Using those machine guns and the warheads from before, you could try to build something like an Orion type rocket powered by explosives. Build a hollow cylinder, fill it with warheads and use a timer to dump the warheads overboard then detonate them by machine gun.
@24:00 - first example of of an Orion drive in SE Wooo!
Could you make a ship using a welder to make a warhead with a projector to make and drop it on a timer and ride the explosions to get to space
Finally, I wonder if warheads still launch things if block damage is turned off. If so, you might be able to do a real Orion drive - have your ship make and explode warheads out the back to fly to space
The gyro idea needs to have a pivot point and perhaps either gravity generator or mass blocks on the other end you can counter balance with so the launch is faster
would the jump drive work from the center of the planet? if it was p-gravity value was 0?
"It'll be fine."
*cue multiple explosions*
I think building that super gyro fling thing may have been more effective, and less clangy if built in the air on a rotor.
Ok think about this... set a rotor on its side unpowered, its just there as a pivot. Now add an arm that is just as long on both ends so you keep klang down a bit. Put a merge block at one end with a control seat merged to it. At the pivot put a line of gyros set to override so the whole thing will spin. Now set a sensor you can turn on once you are up to speed that will cut the merge block as the seat goes by more or less upward...
On earth you would not be able to get escape velocity but it might work on the moon.
I WANNA SEE A FERRIS WHEEL THAT REACHES SPACE!
I have an idea for a space busters video:
Can you try to make the ‘Fall’ from Total Recal
It’s basically a giant elevator through the centre of the earth from one side to the other. When it reaches the centre the seats flip over to match the gravity
Does jump drive works when it is at the center of the earth where P gravity is 0?
What you need is a space trebuchet, the superior space siege weapon.
What about gyros in override in opposite directions? Wouldn't that provide some "lift"?
Put a second character on another long stick, end of it on the edge of a cliff, use something to turn it, and the mass and gravity blocks (gravity on the side of the cliff, mass on the end of the flinging stick) Just an idea, probably won't work for many reasons. :)
Couple Ideas
First is a giant spinning rotor that throws you like a ball.
I assume rotors couldn't get you enough speed but what if you use a rotor only as the base and gyroscopes like your giant arm to propel it and throw you off the side of the planet instead of directly up
Second is using turrets to shoot you as i know in space if a missile or gatling turret hits you you go flying in the opposite direction VERY FAST.
Only including this idea because its about as realistic as getting to space by blowing up warheads at your feet =P
That might have worked! Turrets at the bottom shooting me up. Idk if the one shot would be enough to get out of the gravity tho but you're right, it's just as realistic as the warheads!
I reckon Clang-power would be viable, but you were too aggressive with the pistons.
What you need is just a normal block wall above, and to extend them slowly in to it. Increase the Impulse Axis slowly, until you start to take off.
At least, that's my theory. Also, center-of-mass would be a good thing to keep in mind. Try to place your clang-engine as close to in-line with it as possible (There's a checkbox you can toggle under the 'Info' tab in the terminal to let you see it easily).
It would be interesting to see wheels to space
curious if throwing all your ideas together into one contraption would work? and can the parachute be used to go up instead of down?
Maybe make the hole bigger for the gravity method? Big brain play, I know. I am very smart.
Seeing as you got to space with bombs, you now must build an orion drive ship that can get to space and uses gravity drives when there
Apparently there is a roller shutter mod that if you touch it while it is running catapults you. Try that.
I'm also really curious if you could use the hyperdrive from the center of the planet