That was poetic! Also reminds me of a song... 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will, 5% pleasure, 50% pain, and 100% reason to remember my name!
You can also put a large rotor head on a small rotor, but you have to have a naked small rotor and drop a large head near it, then go to control panel and click "attach"
Absolutely nuts man, you actually did it. You're pretty much changing a lot of what we think is possible in space engineers. You made a moon _high_ way, and created a vehicle that can travel it and cross the distance. And not only that, but without the Almighty Clang interfering. Good stuff man.
2 things: 1) You could have build a forwoard thrust via gravity generator, thus neautralize planet gravity 2) Do you think you can build fully functional, in all direction, gravity engine (grave generators, artificial mass) for one of the next episodes? I have builded one gravity engine but it was quite unstable so i would like to learn how to build it correctly.
Have you ever seen a "human gyroscope" at a fair or space center? You have to make something like that. On the outer "ring" you place 6 Artificial Mass blocks, one centered on each of the 6 sides/directions equally spaced from the center of the contraption. The second ring gets nothing but a rotor. Last inside ring gets attached by rotor the same way as the middle ring, just on a 90° offset from the middle rings attachment point. Within this last ring, build a few gyros, a reactor, a cockpit or chair, and at least one standard gravity gen set on reverse, projecting the field in the direction the cockpit is facing. Toggle the gravity gen on and off to go! Add some thrusters you can kick on to stop the craft otherwise you will drift endlessly when you kick off the gravity drive.
You might be able to stop using thrusters by using more wheels and maybe using pistons or different placed rotors to keep it on the track. I haven't tried it though, it's only speculation. Or maybe if you placed the bridge differently, so it started aligned with the surface of the earth, and did accordingly on the moon. Though that would require you to build another bridge entirely... :P
The reason you had so much trouble getting away from earth and on the other end slowing down towards the moon was because of those artificial masses. They don't just work in the direction you want them to, they work in all directions. So the whole time, planetary gravity was pulling on those mass blocks.
The mass blocks feel Planetary gravity just the same as all other blocks in the game. Unlike other blocks however, when you turn on artificial mass blocks they can feel Artificial gravity, too. Gravity gens do not function in planetary gravity, he simply doesn't understand all the features of the game yet. That's why he has so much trouble. I've got 1400+ hrs and it took me at least 500 just to consider myself novice. I still learn new things from time to time! There's a lot going on in this game.
@@mindwideopen2579 At some point in the game's history, artificial gravity did work on a planet. You could launch stuff into space with upside-down gravity gens.
@@MCLooyverse Im aware that several years ago that was possible. However, this video was made long after that change and honestly I don't know why you felt that was relevant information. Andrew clearly just didnt know. He wasn't operating on past experience from a bygone update. None the less, it was amusing to watch him learn!
This was super interesting. But that made me think of combining both a space elevator and a spaceship. ie. you ride the elevator until you're out of earths gravity, and right off the rails where you can then use thrusters to fly around and land back onto the rails to go back down to earth. In theory you should be able to avoid needing atmospheric thrusters. Thoughts? Give it a try with your existing space elevator? Convert it to a ship maybe? Actually maybe to stick with the theme, build a smaller space elevator on the moon to land on? Long trip, lots of time to think this through.
A though on changing the angle of the road might be to find a point on the Earth-like planet where you can see the moon straight in front of you instead of looking up and setting the road that way where it will be more horizontal in P-Gravity.
I know this would be too difficult to try again from scratch but from everything you've learned was wondering if changing the angle of the ramp to a "northern" top part of the moon might change the angle enough to help..just a thought that crossed my mind over all a great run .
Hmmmm, how much metal would we need? The radius of the moon is 9.5km which means it has a surface area of ~1,134,113,990 m^2. A block's surface covers something like 1 m^2. We would need over a billion blocks to cover the entire moon in blocks! For reference, the structure that kept crashing our game last episode was about 270,000 blocks. Great ides but I think it will need to wait 10 years until we have better PCs!
AndrewmanGaming Actually, a block's surface covers around 6.25 m^2, so it's not as difficult as you might think. (A big block is 2.5 * 2.5 * 2.5, so it has a side of 2.5 * 2.5 which is 6.25.)
I think a simpler solution would have been making a normal small car with engines pointing up relative to your car so it pushed the car into the road. This would allow your wheels to do all the work while ignoring gravity. The gaps in the road might be an issue, but if you turn down the engines in space that should work. Or align the roads a bit better.
Where u say gravity gens only work on large ships: technically thats wrong. U can use a rotor to overcome this problem. Just place a smallblock rotor on a small ship, then delete the rotorhead and place a big ship rotorhead right above the small ship rotor part. It will fall into it, thats good. Now just go to a controll panel and make the rotor „lock“. Now you can place big blocks on a small ship. Below them a gravity generator. The power will be transferred through the rotor so just put enough power on it
To make this thing truely stable you would need four directions of contact like the space elevator. it might have even been able to go up without thrusters if you had wheels on all four sides of the road.
I did that long conveyor tube from the earth to the moon again and made a little video showing it off on my channel. I tried to reply to your comment on the previous video on the moon bridge and youtube just ghosted it.
Turns on mass blocks in earth gravity while trying to drive vertically... "Why aren't my wheels enough?!" LOL The planet is still pulling you down despite the grav gen.
Thanks again by the way i love space enginners the entire gameplay of it time to practice there my MINECRAFT SKILLS (i don t have the game yet but i ll buy it) Sevtn Ronan (LOVE YOUR VIDS)
Most painful idea ever, Elevator that goes from the one side of the Earth-like, through it, and continues from the other side and goes all the way to the moon...
What mods do you use to maintain your shadows? Whenever I play, interior lighting doesn't render correctly after going outside for a while :( it breaks my immersion when a high end game looks like it was made in 1999
to overcome the earth gravity, you could build at an angle instead of straight up. that would allow you to use the gravity to stay on the ramp and you would have to deal with overcoming less of the gravity.
@13:20, As long as you can still see clouds you're within the atmosphere and hence the gravity well. Keeping the thrusters going until you can barely see the clouds would be my suggestion.
build your bridge from a place where the moon is on the horizon, so your bridge starts with downward gravity. aim it at the top of moon, and it will end it's trip with downward gravity. It's how I'm building mine. working well so far.
Artificial mass blocks do work on planets. If you’re in a gravity field other than the one generated by the car turn off the artificial mass blocks. Otherwise you’ll be sabotaging yourself
You built a monorail to the moon... A moon-a-rail. Firrst issue already pointed out previously: grab gens don't work on planets, neither do artificial mass blocks as far as I know. Your "mounting" angle is over 90degrees at earth. You would have had a better expierence approaching from the other side. Your wheels were built too far from the 1 block thick bridge. I would have suggeated maybe 1 block of seperation less between the wheels, it would have much less play. Atmos thrusters pointed down would have done the effect you were trying for with the grav gens (ion in space as well).
you could have used gravity generators and mass blocks to propel the car, though i prefer space balls over mass blocks, they do the same thing, but much better. i use space balls to propel my MAC rounds.
I mean, using thrusters defeats the point right? You essentially just build a rocket on wheels. IF what they say below is true about the mass blocks... how about positioning them above the atmosphere with a landing gear to grab them when you get there?
Actually yes! A team of SE Devs actually did this for their Space Elevator. There's a 25 second video on their channel that shows a bit of it. As for a Space Busters episode, we could probably test the limits of self-building structures.
To be honest, I wanted to use no thrusters at all. Unfortunately I had to use some to actually get out of the atmosphere but I didn't want to let thrusters solve all of my problems, hence super sketchy grav gen setup :)
You can overcome the thruster issue with more wheel, each with 100% power. more wheels = more driving force. You simply need enough driving force to overcome your weight. You can also cut back on the weight of the vehicle to do this too. B.t.w, your gravity generator doesn't work in natural gravity, it only kicks in when you leave planetary gravity.
Unless there was an update that changed the way artificial gravity blocks work, I thought that they didn't work when natural gravity existed or were very very weak where natural gravity existed. That's most likely why you needed thrusters, besides the obvious that natural gravity exists on the planets/moons.
The Space Elevator had wheels on all sides which allowed it to be stable. It was also made on a small grid which made it much lighter. This one used two wheels on top and two on bottom but none on the sides. I did this because I was afraid of the glitched part of the bridge messing with the side wheels when we got there. Furthermore, this vehicle used a large grid which made it super heavy. All in all, I probably could have made it look like the Space Elevator car but limitations and the need to try a different design got in the way :)
Did you tried to put wheels on sides to hold the vehicle? Also if you call thrusters cheating i want to know what you call the gravity generator. =D But with two more g. generators you could just place one in front and one in back, than you would not need the thrusters.
Мост надо было строить. Когда луна буддет на уровне горизонта, а не ровно в верху, мост бы получился длиннее, но по нему можно было бы ездить без проблем
Great idea, but first you have to slow down the rotation speed of the earth. After that you have to change the orbit of the moon, so that it becomes completely circular. Are you serious about that?
a tunnel that goes through the earth, into a bridge that runs into the moon, that turns into a tunnel that runs through the moon.
Oh god. The final challenge of Space Busters!
@@AndrewmanGaming and don't forget to let it go back on the other side a second time though the moon back to earth though the plant and to the start
interplanetary subway? nice idea
Your ship would probably get torn apart or off the rails by the gravity well in the earth
With lights.
Perseverance: It's 50% ambition, 40% stubbornness, and in this case, 10% thrusters.
But with Andrew, it's always at least 100% entertaining.
That was poetic! Also reminds me of a song... 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will, 5% pleasure, 50% pain, and 100% reason to remember my name!
numbers and percentages
try to build a moon ramp so you can jump out of the moons gravity with a car
We can Evil Kenevil our way out of the gravity!
Man, this is so Kerbal thing to do
So this is basically a space elevator but more dangerous and stressful (and it goes to the moon)
Exactly! It's much less stable than the elevator.
(Large) Grav Gen on Small grids is Possible. Large Rotor + Small Rotor Head. And the Grav Gen´s Doesn´t Work on Planets.
Oh, that would have probably worked! Yeah the grav gen on the planet would have saved me lots of work but alas, it failed me!
You can also put a large rotor head on a small rotor, but you have to have a naked small rotor and drop a large head near it, then go to control panel and click "attach"
@@AndrewmanGaming Grav gen works in natural gravity, but the natural gravity has to be less than 0.5g
Absolutely nuts man, you actually did it. You're pretty much changing a lot of what we think is possible in space engineers. You made a moon _high_ way, and created a vehicle that can travel it and cross the distance. And not only that, but without the Almighty Clang interfering. Good stuff man.
can you build a ring station around a planet like Kuat from Star Wars??
that would destroy the game, like making the bridge, but around the entire circumference of the earth.
Yes I would love to see that!
@Gromek Tuma hey i know im late but here's a video that should answer your question th-cam.com/video/4xSPlQUejd8/w-d-xo.html
Imagine this on a actual server or survival world
People would crash into it with their ships!
The server would crash before all of that
Mmm... Eve online could probably handle it.
TFW you realize Gravity Generators don't work on planets without a mod.
How does a hella cool series like this only have 47k views damn it deserves way more, the effort put into this is gigantic
2 things:
1) You could have build a forwoard thrust via gravity generator, thus neautralize planet gravity
2) Do you think you can build fully functional, in all direction, gravity engine (grave generators, artificial mass) for one of the next episodes?
I have builded one gravity engine but it was quite unstable so i would like to learn how to build it correctly.
Gravity generator removes its power by 2x of planet gravity. So while gravity of planet is 0.5g generators doesn't work at all
Have you ever seen a "human gyroscope" at a fair or space center? You have to make something like that. On the outer "ring" you place 6 Artificial Mass blocks, one centered on each of the 6 sides/directions equally spaced from the center of the contraption. The second ring gets nothing but a rotor. Last inside ring gets attached by rotor the same way as the middle ring, just on a 90° offset from the middle rings attachment point. Within this last ring, build a few gyros, a reactor, a cockpit or chair, and at least one standard gravity gen set on reverse, projecting the field in the direction the cockpit is facing. Toggle the gravity gen on and off to go! Add some thrusters you can kick on to stop the craft otherwise you will drift endlessly when you kick off the gravity drive.
You might be able to stop using thrusters by using more wheels and maybe using pistons or different placed rotors to keep it on the track. I haven't tried it though, it's only speculation.
Or maybe if you placed the bridge differently, so it started aligned with the surface of the earth, and did accordingly on the moon. Though that would require you to build another bridge entirely... :P
Bridge to Mars.
Alien- utimate gamer challenge.
The reason you had so much trouble getting away from earth and on the other end slowing down towards the moon was because of those artificial masses.
They don't just work in the direction you want them to, they work in all directions. So the whole time, planetary gravity was pulling on those mass blocks.
The mass blocks feel Planetary gravity just the same as all other blocks in the game. Unlike other blocks however, when you turn on artificial mass blocks they can feel Artificial gravity, too. Gravity gens do not function in planetary gravity, he simply doesn't understand all the features of the game yet. That's why he has so much trouble. I've got 1400+ hrs and it took me at least 500 just to consider myself novice. I still learn new things from time to time! There's a lot going on in this game.
@@mindwideopen2579 At some point in the game's history, artificial gravity did work on a planet. You could launch stuff into space with upside-down gravity gens.
@@MCLooyverse Im aware that several years ago that was possible. However, this video was made long after that change and honestly I don't know why you felt that was relevant information. Andrew clearly just didnt know. He wasn't operating on past experience from a bygone update. None the less, it was amusing to watch him learn!
This was super interesting. But that made me think of combining both a space elevator and a spaceship. ie. you ride the elevator until you're out of earths gravity, and right off the rails where you can then use thrusters to fly around and land back onto the rails to go back down to earth. In theory you should be able to avoid needing atmospheric thrusters. Thoughts? Give it a try with your existing space elevator? Convert it to a ship maybe? Actually maybe to stick with the theme, build a smaller space elevator on the moon to land on? Long trip, lots of time to think this through.
You've made what I think would have been the first space elevator/moon bridge in the Halo universe.
“Go drive to the moon” sounds like an insult under normal circumstances.
A though on changing the angle of the road might be to find a point on the Earth-like planet where you can see the moon straight in front of you instead of looking up and setting the road that way where it will be more horizontal in P-Gravity.
I know this would be too difficult to try again from scratch but from everything you've learned was wondering if changing the angle of the ramp to a "northern" top part of the moon might change the angle enough to help..just a thought that crossed my mind over all a great run .
new idea: can you cover an entire planet in metal? (i suggest you take a new 19km moon/planet but the actual moon would be cool too)
Hmmmm, how much metal would we need? The radius of the moon is 9.5km which means it has a surface area of ~1,134,113,990 m^2. A block's surface covers something like 1 m^2. We would need over a billion blocks to cover the entire moon in blocks! For reference, the structure that kept crashing our game last episode was about 270,000 blocks.
Great ides but I think it will need to wait 10 years until we have better PCs!
AndrewmanGaming or better optimalisation for Space Engineers.
@@yvesisnotaname2813 I can't imagine any game supporting a billion of blocks no matter the optimisation
@@11darklight11 Minecraft already does that (of course not all at the same time).
AndrewmanGaming Actually, a block's surface covers around 6.25 m^2, so it's not as difficult as you might think.
(A big block is 2.5 * 2.5 * 2.5, so it has a side of 2.5 * 2.5 which is 6.25.)
If you put wheel offset on the hot bar, could you have dynamically tightened it down to keep it attached and straight?
Oh yeah! I should have done that lol
Pretty darn impressive! Really appreciate your dedication to those projects!
Evil Kenevil couldn't have done better himself.
I think a simpler solution would have been making a normal small car with engines pointing up relative to your car so it pushed the car into the road. This would allow your wheels to do all the work while ignoring gravity. The gaps in the road might be an issue, but if you turn down the engines in space that should work. Or align the roads a bit better.
How do you move the 3rd person camera in Space Engineers?
It bothered me so much that you were wondering why you cant go up 90 degrees with a "car", besides that, great video!
Make a launcher or catapult that throws you or a small craft into space
Though that would require you to actually be able to reach the escape velocity.
Wait isn’t that just a unit catapult from planetary annihaltion which I think they got the idea from halo
He would need a speed mod
This was nuts my dude I love it. Its so cool seeing people push this poor game to its limits.
That ended better then I thought it would. Good job.
Where u say gravity gens only work on large ships: technically thats wrong. U can use a rotor to overcome this problem.
Just place a smallblock rotor on a small ship, then delete the rotorhead and place a big ship rotorhead right above the small ship rotor part. It will fall into it, thats good. Now just go to a controll panel and make the rotor „lock“. Now you can place big blocks on a small ship. Below them a gravity generator. The power will be transferred through the rotor so just put enough power on it
To make this thing truely stable you would need four directions of contact like the space elevator.
it might have even been able to go up without thrusters if you had wheels on all four sides of the road.
I did that long conveyor tube from the earth to the moon again and made a little video showing it off on my channel.
I tried to reply to your comment on the previous video on the moon bridge and youtube just ghosted it.
Another great video by Andrew!
Great work! I love your designs!
Turns on mass blocks in earth gravity while trying to drive vertically... "Why aren't my wheels enough?!" LOL
The planet is still pulling you down despite the grav gen.
Nice gameplay of the game (and the elevator too)
Thanks for the heart Andrewman
Thanks again by the way i love space enginners the entire gameplay of it time to practice there my MINECRAFT SKILLS (i don t have the game yet but i ll buy it)
Sevtn Ronan
(LOVE YOUR VIDS)
Nice job. I am thinking of putting together a moon tram myself lol
Do it! I'll be impressed if you can get yours to go faster than mine lol
you could have set the rotor displacement too to get the wheels on the bottom even closer.
Most painful idea ever, Elevator that goes from the one side of the Earth-like, through it, and continues from the other side and goes all the way to the moon...
why did you not put wheels to the sides ? wouldn't that have corrected the path?
What mods do you use to maintain your shadows? Whenever I play, interior lighting doesn't render correctly after going outside for a while :( it breaks my immersion when a high end game looks like it was made in 1999
to overcome the earth gravity, you could build at an angle instead of straight up. that would allow you to use the gravity to stay on the ramp and you would have to deal with overcoming less of the gravity.
Building this way would have solved soooo many problems! I agree, this is how I should have done it.
@@AndrewmanGaming i thought about trying it in survival. after a bit of work, i quickly gave up. lol
i thought u had hundreds of thousand of subs, the quality of your videos are so good, u deserve to be a big youtuber.
dude... you must have nerves of steel
Andrew can do anything
@13:20, As long as you can still see clouds you're within the atmosphere and hence the gravity well. Keeping the thrusters going until you can barely see the clouds would be my suggestion.
build your bridge from a place where the moon is on the horizon, so your bridge starts with downward gravity. aim it at the top of moon, and it will end it's trip with downward gravity. It's how I'm building mine. working well so far.
First a lets play then a spacebusters in two days. You spoil us sir.
This is how it should be! I hate going days without uploads but sometimes life gets in the way.
Artificial mass blocks do work on planets. If you’re in a gravity field other than the one generated by the car turn off the artificial mass blocks. Otherwise you’ll be sabotaging yourself
You built a monorail to the moon... A moon-a-rail. Firrst issue already pointed out previously: grab gens don't work on planets, neither do artificial mass blocks as far as I know. Your "mounting" angle is over 90degrees at earth. You would have had a better expierence approaching from the other side. Your wheels were built too far from the 1 block thick bridge. I would have suggeated maybe 1 block of seperation less between the wheels, it would have much less play. Atmos thrusters pointed down would have done the effect you were trying for with the grav gens (ion in space as well).
Good suggestions! Thanks :)
Is it possible to make a Thruster-less Rotor craft? helicopter or the like?\
o.o Interesting idea!
Is this Minecraft end music?
All music in this is Space Engineers music from their official soundtrack.
Problem #1: Overcome gravity
Problem #2: Overcome no gravity
hmmmmm
you could have used gravity generators and mass blocks to propel the car, though i prefer space balls over mass blocks, they do the same thing, but much better. i use space balls to propel my MAC rounds.
Yas! My wish came true!
Here is a challenge. Build a spring style launcher like in a pinball machine
I mean, using thrusters defeats the point right? You essentially just build a rocket on wheels. IF what they say below is true about the mass blocks... how about positioning them above the atmosphere with a landing gear to grab them when you get there?
Is it possible to build a structure that builds itself?
Actually yes! A team of SE Devs actually did this for their Space Elevator. There's a 25 second video on their channel that shows a bit of it. As for a Space Busters episode, we could probably test the limits of self-building structures.
Technically, they only made an automatic builder for another structure (The Space Elevator), and that builder cannot build itself.
how long did it take for you to drive this 'bridge' ???
Lel, why not use thrusters instead of the artificial mass+grav. gen setup?
To be honest, I wanted to use no thrusters at all. Unfortunately I had to use some to actually get out of the atmosphere but I didn't want to let thrusters solve all of my problems, hence super sketchy grav gen setup :)
Couldn’t you just do a tower of merge blocks and have a machine that goes back-and-forth alternating from two merge blocks
I think it would not tilt you all the time to the side, if you had put the mass blocks on your lower frame below the bridge's level.
You need to start using pistons to lock the wheels in place...
You can overcome the thruster issue with more wheel, each with 100% power. more wheels = more driving force. You simply need enough driving force to overcome your weight. You can also cut back on the weight of the vehicle to do this too. B.t.w, your gravity generator doesn't work in natural gravity, it only kicks in when you leave planetary gravity.
Oh, good point! Yeah I probably should have tried adding more wheels before thrusters.
Well done! :D more air pressure might help though that might have been one of the ones you tried at 100%
Heres your issue, there isnt enough tension between the wheels to hold on to the "bridge"
You need more subs!
be right back honey, just gonna drive to the moon
Wow yes I wanted this to happen!!!
Unless there was an update that changed the way artificial gravity blocks work, I thought that they didn't work when natural gravity existed or were very very weak where natural gravity existed. That's most likely why you needed thrusters, besides the obvious that natural gravity exists on the planets/moons.
You were able to run your space elevator pretty easily....not sure why this gave you such trouble. How was it different?
The Space Elevator had wheels on all sides which allowed it to be stable. It was also made on a small grid which made it much lighter. This one used two wheels on top and two on bottom but none on the sides. I did this because I was afraid of the glitched part of the bridge messing with the side wheels when we got there. Furthermore, this vehicle used a large grid which made it super heavy.
All in all, I probably could have made it look like the Space Elevator car but limitations and the need to try a different design got in the way :)
Can you make artificial gravity by using pyshic laws? (No gravity generators)
Interesting question. I'll add it to the list!
Nope. Centrifugal force don't work in SE.
Maybe some lateral wheels can make it more stable! good job anyway!!
A better thing you could have done was build the bridge where the moon is on the horizon
I feel like a small grid smugly fit vehicle with more wheels would have worked better.
A smarter design would be to have ridging on 4 sides, and 4 cars with 1 cockpit all joined together. then it won't fall off.
Wow! That was a nice one! \o/ !
this was actually kinda cool :D
1 wheel on each side, running against the side of the ramp would keep you straight :)
I was a bit worried about the gap in the bridge and the glitched part, so I tried to go without side wheels. They probably would have helped though.
I like the concept but I do think it could of been designed better, perhaps higher white ramps either side and maybe a double wheel design
use the hoverrail mod and build a maglev train through the planet from one base to another
The mark III is going to need stabilizers
Did you tried to put wheels on sides to hold the vehicle? Also if you call thrusters cheating i want to know what you call the gravity generator. =D But with two more g. generators you could just place one in front and one in back, than you would not need the thrusters.
Hahaha good point. I didn't try the extra wheels, though perhaps I should have.
Мост надо было строить. Когда луна буддет на уровне горизонта, а не ровно в верху, мост бы получился длиннее, но по нему можно было бы ездить без проблем
Well, kinda... one way thingy. :D
An elevator would be better but this is fun too...
Well done!!!
Thx :)
You could have just used downward facing thrusters
Hmm... Some crunch is required to know if it is viable transport option between Luna and Terra... But in amount of trustee time it appears so.
Soundtrack id during timelapse?
All of the music in this video is Space Engineers music. You can find this on their channel. I think most of the timelapse music is called Solar Wind.
thats great man! keep it up!
Desert bus:Space edition.
Earth to Moon bus driver would be simultaneously the most boring AND nerve-wracking job ever
Get the Stargate mod and put one on every single one of your bases so that you can go to and fro quite easily once you finish the season please
25:50 more like a monorail
Build GIGANT metal box around earth and see if light goes through
Side facing thrusters would have helped with stability. Just saying.
A Have loop make this more easy but the way and build part gets longer.
Great idea, but first you have to slow down the rotation speed of the earth. After that you have to change the orbit of the moon, so that it becomes completely circular. Are you serious about that?
hey cool moon rail