A fun anecdote; after the cutscene with Varian's death played, there's a special graveyard for him in Stormwind City since he was their king. On many servers, even Horde players went there to kneel in front of his tombstone, even though they are the "enemy" faction. For a few days, Alliance players didn't attack the Horde players there even though they could if they wanted.
lol fitting name, Bull. That's exactly what your story is beyond the graveyard part. There was tremendous animosity present at that point in time because of the two versions of the cutscene that were given showing the Horde's 'betrayal' and the reason behind it.
35:27 That is Alleria Windrunner, Sylvanas' eldest sister, who in this moment became the first void elf (an alliance allied race). The human dressed in gold lightforged armour at 32:51 is her husband, Turalyon, who she has a son with.
Not sure if someone commented on 20:58, but its such an important reference for old Warcraft 3 fans. In the night elf Warcraft 3 campaign, Illidan was looking for the skull of Gul'dan (GD originally died torn apart by demons in Tomb of Sargeras) as an artifact of great power that actually allowed him to learn the Metamorphosis ultimate power. Later he is seen with the skull of Gul'dan again in the Burning Legion cinematic, and the skull is a trinket drop from him in the Black Temple raid. The fact that he crushes the skull of the time traveling Gul'dan in this cinematic is such a great move, because he already has all the knowledge he needed by now, and the only thing that remains in him now is disdain for Gul'dan.
Ysera's fall never, ever fails to bring tears to my eyes and pain to my soul. That being said, without that we wouldn't have the remix of Nightsong and the climax of Ardenweald and well, if you know, you know. Legion is such an experience. Even 40 some odd minutes of cinematics doesn't begin to touch that expansion. To wield the Ashbringer is every Ret Paladin's dream come true. To stand in the Netherlight Temple as a Priest. To walk the Halls of Valor as a Warrior and be honored by Odin himself. So much in the feels. Speaking of feels, beware the Daughter of the Sea.
Ysera´s fall did hit very hard the first time i saw it. Daughter of the Sea brought back very old memorys from WC3 and those who played Frozen Throne´s bonus campaign know what i mean.
Ysera's fall was super sad, but also heartwarming in a way since you saw Elune save her Spirit from corruption and purify the Tears of Elune afterwards.
I've moved on from this game after being a 15 year dedicated fan, but Rejection of the Gift, is the best gaming cinematic of all time. "I am my scars", will stick with me till I die. To me it means my imperfections, my damaged parts (physical and mental), are part of me, they make me who I am.
I’m just curious and it’ll help to gather feedback from other players. But what made you move on from the game? And what would bring you back, bring back the love for it? I have my own project I’m working on, and I would like to make sure I’m perfecting it as I finally finish off the first step, Concept.
@@edwardmire8134 With me it's 100% about the story. BfA really disappointed me in that regard, then Shadowlands just made me give up hope. The next expansion will be the first I don't get. After watching the game for a few years and reading where the story goes, and not being disappointed by it, could maybe bring me back.
@@Cifer77 Oh okay well I'm 1000% sure I wouldn't have to worry about that then about my own project xD. Anything else that would make or break the game for you?
@@eternallegacy89 A proper answer would require an essay lol. For a youtube comment, I'll just say smaller numbers are always preferable in an RPG to me. I don't want to see crits for 10,000, or 5,000,000. The number is so big it loses it's value. I'm happy living in stats with single digits, and 50 sounding like a big number.
Most good characters in WoW are or were Alliance from the start. Only a couple standout horde characters. Thrall, Garrosh and Sylvanas (if you can count her). Then you have a B-tier of characters that is as numerous for Horde as for Alliance. But overall, much stronger Alliance "cast".
@@MrZeuz666 Technically Sylvanas had also started out as Alliance, as the high elves were part of the original Alliance during Second War (Warcraft II). That being said she's an evil b*tch who's character had been utterly butchered by the current writing team, so who cares xD
4:35 Not just a badass... he is (or was) one of the greatest warriors the world of Azeroth has known, respected for his martial prowess even by members of the Horde, which earned him the moniker "Lo'Gosh", meaning "Ghost Wolf" in Orcish.
what i like about legion is that every single class was key to defeat the burning legion: from the more pure-sided paladins ; shamans and druid to the dark power enfused warlocks and demonhunters; even the more grounded calsses like the rougue , hunters and warrior find a way to do their part at the end
i hated the fact, that you as player become the head of your class-order. i mean, every paladin is the head of their class order.. 8000 class-order heads on each server.. players should never be in that place, always an NPC with rich story behind him. i liked it more when the player is just an adventurer that has achieved sth.. but after 15years of putting another step on top the powercreep is real and you cant just be an adventurer and his friends that brought down a dragon.
@@schippes24 as an aside, there are probably even more characters (belonging to players) than the population of the entire planet of Azeroth. Only a few percent of the world are probably supposed to be "adventurers" even.
and we Shadowpriests have the best of both worlds. Best artifact weapin above all - so cool that the persona involved is now returning to make life interesting in The War Within. [Fun Fact: the Shadowpriest weapin Xal'atath's personality was voiced by Claudia Christian, better know as Susan Ivanova form Babylon 5] AND we got our shadow buddies in the Ren'dorei - the VOid Elves. THe only other people who can understand us (Warlocks use fel and fire after all, no shadow)
I didn't really have a bad day yesterday or so far today, but I can definitely relate to this comment. Feels good when you see an upload you are really looking forward to.
Your World of Warcraft journey continues, and I am all aboard. You guys have definitely dug deep into WoW, cinematics and lore and so forth, I love it. Of course, it means you've been neglecting Final Fantasy and Elder Scrolls, but I understand. Too many franchises, too little time. Here we go with Legion! As I think I've said before, I've never actually played World of Warcraft, just the older regular Warcraft games, not a fan of online multiplayer, but I do try to keep up with the story and lore and everything through watching cinematics and reading the tie in novels, and yes, this was an awesome expansion/part of the story. Cheers!
This month is going to be heavy on WoW so we can complete our (initial journey). We are hoping to cover one franchise in depth a month. Last month was Warhammer. This month is WoW. Final Fantasy and Elder Scrolls will have their months in the future no doubt 🤗🥳
This was a lot of fun to watch with you. This playlist was also more complete than the others, so it felt like it had more or an arc. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yes please try to get another good playlist with a good story of videos to it. It is much more enjoyable then taking snapshots of a couple things that happened during the expansions.
Yeah, Prophet Velen had a lot of character growth in Legion. To give you a bit of info, the Prophet was one of the leaders of the Draenei on Argus, their homeworld. Initially, they were named Eredar, and were led by Prophet Velen, Kil'Jaeden (big red demon guy) and Archimonde (the big guy who gets killed at the end of Warlords of Draenor). Some 25 thousand years prior, Sargeras arrived to Argus with his Legion, disguising it as a force of good while promising the three leaders power beyond their reckoning. While Kil'jaeden and Archimonde were enticed by it, Velen wasn't, and he already foresaw doom. So instead he started praying for a way to save his people, and, lo and behold, celestial beings made of pure Light named Naaru (like the one who talked to Illidan and tried to "heal" him) appeared. Most of the Eredar had already been corrupted by the Legion at that point, so Velen gathered all those he could save and with the help of the Naaru, they escaped Argus on a ship called Oshu'gun, which eventually ended up crash landing in Nagrand, on the planet that they named Draenor. They called themselves the Draenei, which in their language meant "exiled ones" and soon after discovered that Draenor was already inhabited by someone, namely, the orcs, who were natives of that planet.
And just to expand onto that a bit, the orcs and Draenei actually got along and worked together until the Legion found them again and corrupted the orcs by tempting them to drink the demons blood turning them into blood thirsty savages. This is also where the orcs on Azeroth get their green skin from as orcs originally had brown skin. You also see a scene in Warlords of Draenor where the orcs refuse the demon blood offered by Gul'dan. This is the part where they originally drank it but Garrosh from our Azeroth gets sent to an alternate world Draenor where the orcs refuse the blood of the demons and he convinces them to unite into the Iron Horde and build the Dark Portal to invade into Azeroth. Hence the start of Warlords of Draenor.
Legion was truly the last great expansion for WoW. The story was great, the raids were amazing, and it really felt like it was the conclusion of huge part of Warcraft's story. The cutscene at 35:46 plays after you've defeated the final boss in the last raid and it really feels like the end of a chapter. The Burning Legion has been defeated once and for all and hey we all kinda worked together to do it. Maybe we can stop with all the Alliance vs Horde stuff and begin a new chapter against a new threat with a unified Azeroth... LOL j/k the next expansion is about everybody hating each other again fighting over the glowy crystals that came out of the ground from being stabbed by a giant space sword.
THey didnt crash the Exodar smartass, the blood elf agents of Kael'thas aboard it Sabotaged it while in interdimensional flight - that's why it was literally shedding major sections before crashing on Azuremyst. Missing engine elements are all over Bloodmyst Isle
So, one aspect with this expansion that isn't quite obvious from the cinematics is the "gimmick" of Legion: In the first cinematic, we see the armies of the Alliance and Horde get brutally defeated at the Burning Shore. They also lose their respective leaders, and both of these giant political coalitions basically go into crisis mode. They're not really fit to continue the war against the Legion. And so they kinda take a backseat. For most of the expansion, players would instead seek out these secretive organizations focused around their respective classes. Hunters had this secret lodge high in the mountains where all the world's best hunters resided together. Paladins had a secret cathedral underneath a small church. Death Knights sought out and got the support of the new Lich King (the dude who took over Arthas was killed, if you remember), and so on and so on. These secret organizations had to come into the forefront to fight the Legion basically through special operations (it was still normal questing and gameplay, but that was sorta how it was presented narratively) because facing the Legion head-on was suicide. The class-based organizations sought out artifacts unique to each class (technically unique to each specialization within a class) and power them up by performing various things. So for the endgame of the expansion, you would run around with a single weapon instead of routinely switching from one to a more powerful one. These weapons would be used by one champion (each player was essentially presented in-universe as THE champion of their class, but obviously everyone got one) to defeat the demons. This is why Sylvanas and Anduin were kinda in the background for this expansion, they were mostly doing damage control and trying to rebuild after the disaster of the opening cinematic, while the various class champions assumed the spotlight. Each class organization also had an NPC character who was sorta the leader of their class overall, or perhaps more accurate the mentor figure of the player character. For example Illidan was the leader for all the Demon Hunters. All the other class organizations had their own mentor figures but they were all mostly figures you would only know if you've played the game itself. They were cool, and some were big revelations that had been hidden until that time, but if I tell you their name you wouldn't know who the hell they were, lol. Velen the Prophet is so heavily featured because he is of the same race as most of the leaders of the Burning Legion. He basically saved a small minority of Draenei who didn't want to join, and they've been hunted down ever since. This expansion basically completed his character arc, much like it did for Illidan, of course. That sigh you see Velen do at the end is the first time he could let his guard down in 10,000 years. (As a sidenote, that dragon that first got corrupted and then basically "put down" because they couldn't save her was Ysera, the Dragon Aspect of Dreams. She was very beloved by the Night Elves, and had raised one of their main leaders as her own son, and when druids go into hibernation, they live with her in the Emerald Dream. Putting her down absolutely devastated them. But also, as she died, we see her true spirit get pulled out of the corrupted body, and put into the heavens as a constellations of stars by the Night Elven Moon Goddess Elune. Every World of Warcraft nerd cried bitter tears from that cinematic. It's super sad and very well done. It is also one of the only times we've seen Elune directly intervene.)
Thanks for explaining the dragon scene more to us. Kind of wish we got more of a build up previously because we imagine that scene was even more gut wrenching than it looked to us 😢
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames All of the questing zones in Legion (And WoD, where they started this) have a climatic final sequence. That happens to be Val'sharah's end scene. Questing through the entire zone serves as buildup, above and beyond all the times we've interacted with the Green Dragonflight over the years and expansions.
CRITICA LPOINT OF CLARIFICATION: Velen and the Good Eredar, later renamed Draenei, have been fleeing for 25000 years (the 10000 figure is the Legion's first arrival and sundering). The Eeedar crash landed on the planet they would call Draenor (since the Genedar ship was basically worn out after 25K) perhaps a no more than a few centuries ago. THey only fled that planet when it was clear KilJaeden had found them and there was again no other choice.. to they took the Exodar, but Kael'thas had agents aboard who wrecked the engine causing the crash landing on Azeroth's Azuremyst Isles. The Draenei have only been on Azeroth for ~20 years, and had only stopped on Draenor maybe 3 centuries ago (based on their civilzation size/growth we see).
Agree legion was the modern version of WotLK in my opinion, if that expansion didn't happen after wod the game would be dead, now we need legion 2.0 after shadowlands so that game can stay alive haha
I really wish you guys have done smaller parts for this. Cause this is literally too much to explain. But I like to explain stories. Legion is really felt like the endgame. All stories are finally connecting and makes sense. But before breaking down cinematics....have to explain the story of Warcraft universe and Sargeras. Birth of Universe : In the beginning there was only Light and void, clash cause the big bang and 4 more power sources. Oder, Chaos, Life and Death. The Pantheon : In time, life start to born on any plants...same way first Titan was born from a planet. He's "Amanthul". He was alone first and he searched all over cosmos for more like him. And he found 6 more and build the "Pantheon of Titans". Quest for life : These 7 titans have one goal. Find and help and protect unborn Titan souls. "Sargeras" was specifically task with defeat demons and void beings. He's traveling around universe imprisoning any demon he fought. Corrupted Titans : During his search he found a new titan world already populated with demons. When he tried to clean up the world he realises, the sleeping soul is having nightmares, negativity and hatred boiling inside him. Then a Demon told him, the Void has already corrupted the soul in oder to make a Void titan. Sargeras instantly draw his sword and destroyed the corrupted world killing the titan. Azorath : Sargeras return to Pantheon to inform about this void titan.. but Amanthul is furious about what he did and Banished him. Pantheon then found another unborn Titan, Azorath, our planet. But corruption of Azorath already started. 4 void beings are fueling the soul with Nightmares. these 4 are known to be Old God's in wow history. Amanthul instantly rips Yaksharaj from planet, but this cause a wound on planet's surface. And also Yaksharaj's blood rained over Pandaria giving life to Sha. Pantheon then realized, best way to do is to seal remaining 3. They build artificial humans called Titan keepers to fight them on planet. (Very same plot in Eternals movie) Titan keepers create more weaker beings. And more and more beings. Eventually sealed 3 Old gods in structures. The wound has become the "Well of Eternity", oozing blood of the titan. Also titans gift 5 artifacts to help the war, which became the "Pillars of creation" Fall of Pantheon : Sargeras not having any alies, he returned to prison he created for demons and released them. And recruit them and form the "Burning Legion". Sargeras return to Pantheon and inform about his Crusade, but Amanthul told him about Azorath. Confrontation end with Sargeras defeating 6 others and prison them. They never told him where was Azorath, do he start spreading agents to look for them. Argus : While looking for Azorath, he came across another soul already being corrupted by void. That's Argus. Argus is populated by Eredar, a race devoted to light and highly intelligent. Sargeras told the story to leaders of Eredar to recruit them. Kiljaeden And Archimond joined the legion while prophet Velen saw the darkness and escaped to Draenor. Instead of destroying Argus, Sargeras saw a opportunity, Argus have special power over reincarnation. Sargeras siphon this power to instantly ressurect anyone from his army. Technically use him as a battery. Also Argus is the base of operations for Legion. War of Ancient : There many failed attempts to find Azorath. But eventually they found a connection. "Well of Eternity" has evolved the races of Azorath into much intelligence races. Thus Elves born. Elves quest for knowledge has contacted Sargeras. Elven Queen, Ashara made a pact with Sargeras to summon his army here in exchange of knowledge. Argus story same way. And rest of story I explained before, how Illidian and nightelves and Dragon aspects rebel against queen. Ok to the cinematics. 1:30 Voljin, Varian and Sylvannus you met already. High tinker Mechatorque - leader of Gnomes who was on the robo mech suit. Genn Greymane - leader of Wogens, (Wogens are technically warewolves, long story) In cinematic Guldan was send to Azorath (if you remember end of Draenor ). Guldan open the gates of Tomb of Sargeras ( this is where Agewynn sealed the body of avatar of Sargeras, I explained in last wow video). And Horde and Alliance joined forces to face the invasion. "Voljin" got stabbed to death, made horde retreat and eventually King "Varian" sacrifice himself. (There is reason to this attempt to fail, the alliance SI7 unit tasked with tactics for this battle. But a dreadlord process 'Spymaster Shaw" to lead this trap, he was saved later.) 9:56 Voljin die because if poison, and Sylvannus named as next leader because someone Whisper voljin to do so. It is Muezzala, the god of death actually whispered him. Bain bloodhoof - current leader of Taurens. Lothemar Theron - leader of bloodelves. Gallivix - Leader of Goblins. 12:16 During events of Legion, Sylvannus and Genn got into a side fight. They always hated each other. While players looking for "Agis of Aggramar" on of pillars of creation, Sylvannus met with Helya, Helya is titan keeper control over hell. Sylvannus stole a lantern from hell which allows to bind Valkyr to her will. And Valkir can bring back dead. She tried to enslave "Eir" queen of Valkyr. Which Genn destroy the lantern. 14:00 Players looking for 2nd pillar of creation. The "Tear of elune". "Xavius" found it before us and use it on Yesara. The Dragon aspect of life (present in previous cinematics too). And enslaved her. Xavius - key figure during war of Ancient and left hand man of Queen Ashara. He was fallen to legion portal during war and tortured for 10k years Nd became powerful demon. 14:46 Yesara is defeated and Tear of Elune acquired. Tyrande also present in cinematic. Tyrande - leader of nightelves, former love interest of Illidian. Wife of Illidian's brother Malfurion. 15.56 Suramar story is self-explanatory. One thing is that power they use to form the shield is one of Piller of creations called "eye of Amanthul". For 10000 years Suramar thought outside world is destroyed by legion. Thier change from Nightelves to Nightborn. First Arcanist Thalysra - the person giving monologue. She will become leader of Nightborn. Queen Ashara also can be seen in cinematic. 18:16 Another Side event, "Moroes' help legion to take over towers of Karazan, hoping it will give him his master back. So Kadghar have to clean up again. Moroes - personal servant of Medive. He loved Medive as a parent. When Medive battle Kadghar, Medive absorb Moroes lifeforce killing him. Later Moroes return as a undead. 19:00 In Karazan, Kadghar find a message left by "Turalyon", who was missing for years. Message was embedded to a heart of dead Narru. Turalyon - one of first Paladins, the hero of the 2nd war of humans Vs orcs. Best friend of Kadghar. Member of Sons of lothar. A faction create to protect Azorath from orcs. Turalyon and his elven love "Aleria windrunner" disappeared years ago hunting legion. 20:18 Meanwhile Guldan's attempt to make Illidian into Puppet ruined by players and Illidian returns. 21:28 You can see all 12 class leaders...and that too much to explain. The red demon is Kiljaeden. And he's referring about events of Argus. 24:19 Meanwhile "Anduin", prince of alliance go retrieve his father's sword. Genn and Velen are also present in cinematic. 26:50 Tomb of Sargeras fight end when we Finally confront Kiljaeden in Argus. Kiljaeden defeated, Illidian use the "Sargarite keystone" to make a gateway to Azorath from Argus. Velen show the future to Kiljaeden before he explodes. And later they found, Illidian had created permanent portal between planets. 29:21 So we ventured to Argus, take the fight to them. There we meet Army of the light, a faction did not escape Argus but stayed and fought pledge Thier ultimate loyalty to light. And been fighting for more than 1000 years "Turalyon" now act as general of army of the light. 32:33 Army of the light use the heart of Narru to ressurect her again. Xiera, the prime Narru of army of light. She had a prophecy that Illidian will be greated lightforge warrior. You can see "Turalyon" there now forged by light too. "Aleria" is also present In the cinematic. 35:40 Another side story. The Lura, the Narru who was on ship now consumed by void..Aleria tried to save Lura but instead all powers transferred to Aleria. This is cool cause her Husband is lightforge and she's now void forged. Alleria windrunner - elder sister of Sylvannus windrunner. (Missing Cinematic) - we saved the prisoned souls of Pantheon. And they broke the final seal to release the Argus' soul. But his soul is too broken and he need to killed. 36:34 After Argus dead, Pantheon use his energy to summon Sargeras back to Pantheon. Illidian stays to finish his deals with Sargeras. Just when we know, Sargeras was already here watching over Azorath secretly. He tried to kill Azorath just before he got pulled back. 39:00 The war is over, "Anduin" finally people at Varian's funeral. "Spymaster Shaw" bringing news about Azerite. The wound cause by Sargeras sword causing life blood of titan to flow. A powerful mineral. Spymaster Shaw here is not possed one, he was saved. 41:31 On Horde side, "Bain bloodhoof", "Sarufang" are celebrating the victory while "Gallivix" showing Sylvannus about Azerite. Nathanos brightcaller is also present in this cinematic. (Red eyes human) He's Sylvannus love interest and known as greatest simp of Warcraft.
So why was Sylvanas essentially chosen by the god of death to be the next warchief? Because it seems she leads them down a much darker path from what we’ve heard (and seen a bit already for our reaction next week Warbringers 🤗)
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Well it really play part In Shadowlands story, BFA is only teasing Sylvannus true goals. But as many players. I will also say, Story in Shadowlands is kind of not well written. For now I'll say, The one who whispered is Muezzala, Not Bhonsambdi which you will meet soon. He's actually not a god, Loa of dead. Loa is name give to gods worship by Trolls and Nightelves. Loa is someone blessed or empowered beings, by power entities like Titans..... I'll explain when Rezan or Bhonsambdi showup in a cinematic. There are many Loas, So they are not specifically good or evil. (Similar to Hindu gods) Loas did play big role in stories but mostly side characters until Battle for Azorath.
Darn it, I was writing a comment towards the end of the video and TH-cam jumped to another video, not saving what I'd written. AARGGHH! But yeah. As disjointed as this must still be for you, it's still possible to follow this story through to the end, and it honestly is only the second (perhaps third) time in the history of WoW that it feels like an ending to something. And yes. It's so epic! And obviously it's even more deep when you know all the underlying lore. Legion was so huge, and lots of it connects back up to 20 years of story. All of these clips make me emotional in some way! The fact that Legion is sad is part of why it's so good. It continously feels like there are things at stake for real! Characters are actually killed off etc. It's good writing! There's more "pretty decent" stuff to come for you (BfA has great cinematics at least), but I'd just say that unless WoW and Blizzard turns the boat around and gets the glory of WoW back. I'll just consider the end of Legion my headcannon ending of WoW. Will be interesting to hear what you think of the direction of the story going forward considering your desire to understand Sylvanas better. Outside perspective and all that. Love this though! Peace
We appreciate you rewriting this for us 😀 We got most of the story through these scenes but obviously there were still characters who we had no clue who they were and didn’t really comprehend the significance of the dragon dying. We just hated seeing that even without knowing. And yes, the fact that this expansion can make us go through a rollercoaster of emotions is why it stands out so far to us 🤩
invading argus was epic to play. Seeing turalion and alleria again was beyond words to describe it. Probaly wows coolest love couple with a tun of backstory....and we havent heard from them in 2 DECADES...and then puff ...there they are. When the turalion and alleria story happened most wow players werent even born yet XD And then they got seperated. He became the light, she became the shadow and now their love becomes their doom as they cant be near each other anymore...
At 22:08 that was the first time Valen referred to Kil'jaeden as a "monster" as Valen always called him "brother"; even though Kil'Jaeden had hunted Valen across the stars for thousands of years. They were best friends before Kil'Jaeden joined the Legion.
I love the Legion expanssion. The Legion has been known to have their fingers in many of the proverbial massive plot pies in the whole Warcraft Lore, only beaten by the machinations of the void beings. Here, we basically told them, "Hey, you've been trying to take over Azeroth for a while now. How about you come over and we'll show you just how bad of an idea that is!" While we see in the opening cinematics how badly they devastated us at the start, we manage to pick ourselves back up and finally turn things around, ending with us finally beating a major bad guy who has plagued us from the very start.
Well, so these trailers leave a bit open, so I will try to summarize to the best of my ability without spoiling future content. 1. First that should have some additional information is Sylvanas controlling the Val'kyr. Without spoiling too much future stuff, she did that mainly to save her own life. At this point we know, that after the fall of the Lich King, she killed herself. But was shown hell, where she would go. Which of course terrified her. So the Val'kyr that served the Lich King, who did not want to serve the new one offered her a deal, that they will serve her and keep her alive. She accepted and one of the Val'kyr went to hell in her stead. She died once more after that, this time costing three val'kyr. Out of Nine she was losing Val'kyr quite quickly, so she just wants to have more, that is why she was doing it there and Genn stopped her. (Also another reason might have been, that undead cannot procreate and Val'kyr can make more). 2. The Dragon in the cinematic is Ysera, the Dreamer. She is basically responsible for a place called The Emerald Dream. Which is a pristine copy of Azeroth, druids go there to learn and it should be a nice place. There is this thing called the Nightmare that corrupts it tho. And the Satyr guy that fires at here is Xavius, he is corrupted by the Nightmare and he makes her corrupted as well. Which is why in the next cinematic, you see her dying to Tyrande (the leader of the Night Elves), who she held very dear. But could not control herself. What happens to her in the end, at this point, we though the Goddess of the game that the Night elves pray to, Elune (symbolized as the moon) brought her to herself, because she is associated with Ysera. There is a lot more story there, that was revealed in current expansion, that sort of retcons or narrows a lot of stuff said before, so noone is really sure anymore .. (FYI I loved Ysera and it was a painful moment for a lot of people that we had to kill her.) 3. The character in front of the tower in Karazhan, his name is Moroes. He is the steward of its former master, Medivh. Pretty sure he was in Warcraft movie, just not undead yet. 4. Turalyon and the Army of the Light is a very long story, but basically these were the first cinematics showing, that the Light is not really "good". The fanatical part of it is just as bad as void, or the legion and such. They just wanted to show us that there isn't really a good guy, just what we do. 5. The elf getting blasted by the purple (void). Her name is Alleria Windrunner and she is one of the two sisters of Sylvanas. While her boyfriend (Turalyon) is busy obsessing about the light. She is trying to learn as much as possible about it's counterpart, The Void. So that is her, absorbing powers of the Void, technically turning into the first Void Elf. Which is a "allied race", techincally as sub-race now in WoW on the Alliance side. 6. The big cinematic about the giant stabbing Azeroth is a bit more difficult to explain. They all are Titans and they created basically everything on Azeroth and on many more worlds. (Currently they are not really the Gods, but they were treated like that in the lore back in the day). One of them, the flaming one, Sargeras is the leader of the Burning Legion. I am not sure if someone told you why the burning legion exists, but basically and quickly: Demons are rampaging across the universe, so Titans choose the strongest warrior from them, Sargeras, to eliminate the threat. He does so and locks the demons away. But during his work, he finds out, that there are more evil beings, the Void Lords. Which try and corrupt worlds from which Titans are born. (one of these worlds is Azeroth, yes the world players live on is a place in which a nascent Titan sleeps). And because Sargeras did not see a simple way to beat the Void Lords, they cannot even cross into our reality. He decides that the easiest way is to destroy every world in the Universe, because they could all be corrupted and they cannot cleanse the corruption (The corruption are The Old Gods, which are seeped deep inside of the worlds and cannot be really removed). That is why Sargeras is so desperately trying to destroy Azeroth. Because if she gets corrupted, she might bring the end of the universe and the Titans, because she is supposed to be the most powerful of them all. 7. The shiny rocks at the end are called Azerite .. and they are basically Azeroths blood, because she just god stabbed by a bigass sword. (The swords is still inside of the world by the way, we just sacrificed our very powerful weapons to make it not .. "poison" her. At least.) Hope I helped a bit, the lore gets changed a lot. Blizzard created these books called "chronicles" to streamline the lore which was across many books. And to make sure they can still retcon stuff, they said, that the books are from the point of view of the Titans, therefore leaving themselves to changes, because the Titans do not know everything. Very lazy way to do something like that, they do not seem to be trying anymore much ...
Pretty good summary, I would add 3 pieces of information to it: 1st Ysera, the Dragon, it was already said before, but she was 1 of 5 Dragon aspects, we have seen her in elf form in the past, mostly in Deathwing act. 2nd Velen and Kil'Jaden 29:48 You can see the three of them, brothers, leaders of the Draenai. When offered power by the Legion, Archimonde and Kil'Jaden accepted the power, and became commanders of the demon army, we have seen Archimonde since Warcraft 3 many times, since he is a warrior type, leading the frontline himsele. Kil'Jaden was a strategist, who led Legion by scheming and corrupting creatures on other worlds. The Giant red guy is him, in Fel powered form, dying there, revealing that what he did, he did out of desperation since he did not believe Sargeras could ever be stopped. 3rd - A bit more about Titans, it was said in the past but there is no harm in a reminder :) Titans are literally planets with souls, there are very few of them and finding more is the very reason of their existence. Titans "hatch" from the planet, turning into humanoid form once they awake. The pantheon at 36:00 consist of all remaining Titans. As said, Sargeras wants to destroy all sleeping Titans? Why? Because he would rather purge the world than let Void Lords enter the reality, and sleeping Titans are easy to corrupt. Azeroth (main planet) is a partialy corrupted, sleeping Titan, as well as a Titan with the most power within it, as such, it is the highest priority for Titans to protect Azeroth, while for Sargeras to destroy it.
Thanks so much for giving us all this background info. We were especially curious about the dragon as that part seemed to be the most random from an outsiders perspective watching this 😊🤩
Hi guys, I just wanted to congratulate you on getting that many subs and approaching 100k !! Like many people, I really like you personalities, and your reactions on WoW. The lore in this game is impressive, its characters are charismatic, and as a 50 year old French "dude" I can say this game can really be addictive. I've been playing WoW for around 17 years now. Gonna continue watching your reactions. Wishing you the best for you journey as TH-camrs :)
one interesting tidbit of lore: Illidan's phrase "the hunter is nothing without the hunt" is a callback to when he died at the end of The Burning Crusade - he said that to Maiev, who had been his warden for the 10 thousand years he was imprisoned then hunted him down after Tyrande broke him out of prison, before he died
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames since you've seen warcraft3 cinematic as well, you probably realized that he also likes the "sometimes the hand of fate must be forced" phrase as well haha
you embody the reactions i had as a player so well. legion was an amazing exspation and so utherly heartbreaking. when ysera got corrupted and killed i cried so hard.
We can’t get them all in right now but it helps give us a little bit more context for this. After our initial journey we plan to watch the 23 minute timeline recap 😇
This is one of the better expansions for the game and there is a lot of lore scattered throughout the entirety of this expansion and a lot of cinematics that help to tie everything together for the storyline. I loved the look on Gul'Dan's face when those wings opened. Illidan was an awesome character and one of my favorite redemption arcs that was displayed.
Welcome! Glad you found channel and can join us on our journey. Great timing to because we are finishing it up this month and have another one coming out tomorrow 🥳🥳🥳
14:40 Yup teared like a man when Ysera (dragon) died. Loved your reaction to Legion though. Ysera was a huge deal in the World of Warcraft Lore as being an aspect of the Dream. She was loved by all the Night Elves. Yeah i cried hahaha
The thing with the Prophet Velen is he isn't guided by pure faith, he has faith but he also has the 'Sight' which grants him visions of potential futures and helps him avoid them. If it wasn't for Velen the entirety of the Eredar Race would have been corrupted by the Legion. Instead he managed to save a small portion and they became the Draenei that would eventually join the Alliance. The dynamic between Velen and Illidan to me is more Velen has patience and wisdom, while Illidan is impatient and demands action. And they both can temper one another a bit. Since while Illidan did accomplish a lot, he also did alot of shitty things as well, I mean hell he flip flopped between helping his people and serving Sargeras and then back to his peoples side because of his own ambitions. Your introduction to him in Warcraft 3 basically super simplified involves Tyrande freeing him, Illidan promising "I won't consume anymore demonic magic." And then immediately goes and consumes more demonic magic. A lot of his initial choices and goals revolved around trying to impress Tyrande and woo her despite her affections laying only with his brother Malfurion. He may try to retcon his own past that 'Every choice was to stop the legion.' But he'd be lying his ass off.
Illidan is passionate so it makes sense love is what drove him to be who he is now. Didn’t know Velen had the sight but also, you have to have faith in your sight to follow it 😊🤗
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Aye it definitely does take faith to trust in those visions. I was just trying to illustrate how he isn't completely blinded by it, and he always has tended to listen to others input as well when coming to decisions. But he is definitely very of the 'long game' mentality. Though he's definitely not perfect and has his faults just like Illidan.
He is not lying his ass off. Oh sure, he may have done it FOR Tyrande, to save her. But his goal is still very much to stop The Burning Legion, and I bet it's very much not just for Tyrande, because frankly - It all ends if Sargeras wins. His goal is literally to destroy and remake the universe. It's not a "sort of, maybe." It's a certified "Universal re-origination requested." (ignoring the fact that he already killed most of the other titans, and couldn't create a new universe even if he wanted to. All that's left is their spirits and some small fraction of their power - Which they used to imprison him).
@@Nyarlathotep_Flagg He is lying his ass off, back in the war of the ancients he switched sides because of his own arrogance and ambition several times. You're attaching meta knowledge to Illidan that he hasn't always had. He didn't seriously start moving to try and destroy the burning legion until after Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne. Before then he was still doing things based on his own impulse and ambition, trying to continue to impress Tyrande before finally realizing that will never happen. I'm not saying he didn't eventually start putting every choice to trying to destroy the legion, just that him trying to claim literally every single choice he's ever made has been with that goal in mind is his own retcon as it simply isn't true.
Love it, cant wait for you to check out all the Battle for Azeroth cinematics, hopefully youll watch ALL of them. like, the cutscenes, the CGI Cinematics AND the Warbringers animations, Jaina, Azshara and Sylvannas. It's some of the best cinematics in WoW IMO Also, Illidan is one of my top fav chars in WoW and The Gift cutscene (where he blasts the hell out of Xe'ra) is amazing
I LOVED Suramar when they released it, and as the xpack progressed you slowly liberated it from the legion and blizzard dropped the ball because Suramar City would have been awesome as a capitol city. When i played wow, i was horde, But i always respected Varian Wrynn, He was an honorable man. Also i noticed you guys liked his sword, Its called the Shalamane, its the result of 2 night elf weapons being magically fused. Shalla'tor and Ellemane. Also, idk if i mentioned this or not, but i love you guys! i always look forward to your videos!
Sadly, it's as an Alliance main one of my grip with Alliance. Varian was honorable and respectable, but wouldn't shy away from violent actions and things like that. And while I love Anduin as a character, like the golden boy, etc... I do think it would have been a better narrative to have a bad Alliance leader, rather than a saint, after Varian. In short, I love Anduin, but I think another character would have been better for the overall story of the game.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yep, and one other thing about breaking the weapon in two. Only one with true honor could split the weapon into it's two individual halves. Hence why in Battle For Azteroth when Anduin gives that weapon to Saurfang to face Sylvanas in the Mak'gorah Saurfang was able to split the weapon into it's two halves, because he was an orc that had true honor within him,
There were a few cutscenes missing. The ones about Illidan's youth explain his motivations and the ones about Velen explain who Kil'jaeden, Archimonde and Sargeras are. The ones about Agrammar, Eonar and Argus would have also explained who the Titans are.
I've played World of Warcraft since 2005... nearly 20 years. These are more than just characters in a story for some of us. Watching Varian Wrynn go out like that... was epic... and sad at the same time.
dont forget the "light" tried to force its will on to illidan till he laser beamed it. also the legion is doing what its doing is because the leader of the legion is trying to stop even a bigger evil known as the void lords, and he figures if he kills everything the void cant take over.
I do wish somebody made a sort of a description to read in between the cinematics so as to explain what happened in each one or what led to the cinematic as some things just don't connect, such as when you saw Eyir being subjugated by Sylvanas and then right after we get Ysera being corrupted by Xavius, a complete set of different characters / story within the expansion, and right after Ysera's death without any info on what happened between her corruption and her untimely demise
Actually a short little run down inbetween cinematics to recap what we missed or need to know would be super helpful. Maybe there are videos out there like that 🤔
There is so much in game lore for why Ysera's (The Dragon) death is so impactful not just as a narrative tool but in the impact on me. This was a VERY rough pack of expansions for me... going from Legion which had Ysera's death (She is literally my favorite Dragon in all of fiction), going into Battle For Azeroth where in the only two characters I have as tattoos on my Body are of Ursoc and Shadra (A big ol' Bear God, and the Spiritual progenitor of all Spiders), Ursoc dying in Legion as a Raid boss (also corrupted) and Shadra being killed by her own high priestess. Then going into Shadowlands, I will hold off on spoilers since to my knowledge you haven't seen the covenant cinematics yet... but everything going on in these three expansions have been wildly emotional for me as someone whose been playing at release. Ysera is the Progenitor, Queen of the Green Dragon Flight and steward of the realm known as the Emerald Dream. She's known as the Dreamer, for when she walks in one world her eyes are closed and fixed in the other. She raised Cenarius, the Demi-God of the Forests on behalf of her friend Malorne (who was killed by Archimonde in the War of the Ancients, a war that predates the stories established in Warcraft), who is a great stag dubbed one of the "Ancients" and a God in Nature's pantheon, and Elune (The Moon Goddess, who is with in the theology of Night Elves removed from her people physically... she is thought to have made the Night Elves but really acts as their patron). She only opened her eyes twice in the course of the story prior to her untimely fate in Legion. Once being the birth of Cenarius and the other at the killing of her oldest friend, Malorne. The intervention of the Dragonflight during the War of the Ancients was so pivotal that even though Archimonde murdered the Father of the Forest, his doing so was what led to their defeat. She is observed having Elune intervene on her behalf, pulling her soul out of her body and creating a constellation in her image... which is one of the only in game examples of Elune directly intervening in an event in the history of World of Warcraft.
Ysera is a character, dragons are characters too as far as we are concerned 😇, we wish we could’ve known more about before seeing this. Many have said how truly heartbreaking that scene was 😢
God, Varian’s fall always brings me to the verge of a crying mess. Which makes Gul’dans fall all the more incredible. I mean serving under Varian since 2005 and watching him die in Legion was the only cinematic that made me cry from sadness rather than how epic these cinematics are.
the one with illidan and guldan is especialy funny in warcraft 3 illidan was just a normal nightelf demonhunter, but he came across a demonic relic the skull of guldan (and no, thats not metaphorically), upon touching it illidans body reacted to the demonic magic and took on the form we see him in now, he gets defeated in burning crusade then warlord of draenor happens and the alternate time guldan comes to our azeroth and uses the crystal containing illidans corpse for his own gains and then the cinematic happens and illidan holds guldans skull once again
You'll get a lot more of Sylvanas in BfA so don't worry about it! Glad you enjoyed the Legion experience though, It's by far the best expansion story wise since it completely closes the case of Warcraft's biggest villain which are the demons and Burning Legion and honestly everything after Legion is just a mess, so... sorry about that in advance lmao I don't think you guys would realize the issues with it cause you aren't a full time lore nerd like us but... BfA expansion aside from Saurfang's story is a giant mess and in Shadowlands they retconned so much that it doesn't feel like the same world anymore so yeah... Anyway love your reactions keep it up! ❤
Illidan is my absolute favorite character through out the wow (world of warcraft) series. Ever since I started playing and witnessing the stories and getting to know his background just tugs at the heart strings.
Prophet Velen is one of the most tragic characters in WoW especially when you read the books. There you know about the hard decisions he had to do to save his people. Without him, there would be no Draenei for us to play. He is a badass character in his own way.
When you go to him and help fight off the legion invading the Exodar and it ends with him realizing the enemy is his son. I wish there had been a cinematic to go along with his dialog.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames There are a few ingame cutscenes with him in patch 7.3 Shadows of Argus. Legion was maybe the best WoW expansion for all time.
Khadgar: What have you done?! Illidan: Sometimes... the hand of fate must be forced. 😎 Xe'ra: Great, Chosen One! I'm glad you feel that way! Illidan: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Not MY hand of fate!
The green dragon was Ysera, the Aspect of the Green Dragonflight and the Ruler / Guardian of the Emerald Dream, a spiritual realm of creation. The demon who fell Ysera was Xavious, who was responsible for the corruption of the Emerald Dream, turning it into the Emerald Nightmare. The elf was Tyrande, the High Priestess of the Moon. The love interest for Illidan and Malfurion.
Illidan is by far my favorite warcraft character since warcraft 3, his story is amazing. I know you guys would love it, theres kinda a mash up video explaining it all.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames i haven't checked yet but did you react to "the story of illidan stormrage - full version (lore)"? also i suggest watching the video "arthas did nothing wrong". these give you tons of back story on two of the warcraft universes most beloved villains/heroes. their story is sad and epic at the same time.
A lot of the scenes in Legion make little sense without playing the Legion campaign itself as they are the final climax of each individual zone. Going forward, this is a typical move from Blizz to reward the players for completing a zone's main questline and while it's awesome, it's not really conducive for a cinematic watchthrough. So with that said, lets boil down a couple things we see here, hopefully it'll help put things more into perspective. First up, the scene of Sylvanas vs Genn Greymane. This is a crossroads of several storylines, one beginning in the Worgen starting zone of Gilneas, another beginning at the events of Wrathgate from Wrath of the Lich King, and the third storyline beginning in Stormheim, one of the zones of the Legion expansion. In short, Sylvanas is attempting to mind control the precursor of the Val'kyr, a species capable of crossing the border between life and death, for a purpose you'll learn more of in future expansions. Genn Greymane of course has an unending hatred of Sylvanas for killing his son in Gilneas years ago (this event is part of a questline, not a cutscene, so you wont know this without playing it yourself as a Worgen starting character.) Well you see how it goes. Genn survives, if you're worried about his wound. First thing we're told after the cutscene as Alliance is that his poisoned wound is not lethal. Second thing we have here is the Satyr throwing the red gemstone at the green dragon and the following scene where she dies. This dragon is Ysera, one of the four remaining Dragon Aspects of Azeroth, who as you may recall lost all her powers at the end of the Cataclysm expansion after killing their wayward brother Deathwing. The Dragon Aspects have never had a good run in Warcraft. Alexstrasza the red dragon aspect was enslaved by the Orcs in Warcraft 2, Neltharion the black dragon aspect became Deathwing during the War of the Ancients 10,000 years ago, Nozdormu the bronze dragon aspect becomes Muruzond the "infinite" dragon aspect and attempts to kill himself from a point in the future to change the timeline (We end up killing him at some point, but Nozdormu is still around until that moment when he becomes Muruzond, so he's both dead and not. A curious case.) Malygos the Blue dragon aspect lost most of his dragons during the War of the Ancient and the loss drove him mad. In Wrath of the Lich King, we need to kill him or he would have turned all magic on Azeroth against the inhabitants of Azeroth, as Malygos was the "Aspect of Magic" and believes no mortal should possess magical power. And finally, Ysera of the Green dragonflight, the little sister of Alexstrasza. She bears an intrinsic connection to the Night Elves and the Emerald Dream, a mirror world of Azeroth where the world remains untouched by thinking lifeforms, so nature has grown wild and free. The Satyr, Xenagos, uses the corrupted Tear of Elune in an attempt to dominate her like the orcs did to her sister before, and the Night Elves are forced to slay her before she annihilates the Emerald Dream. At the end there, you can see Elune, the Moon Goddess of the Night Elves, reach down and bring her spirit to the stars. It's all in all very sad, very emotional and beautiful. A tragic loss. And yes, we kill Xenagos, he gets his comeuppance for this. I dont need to explain the Suramar scene, it's pretty straightforward. The "second coming of the Legion" is concurrent with everything else happening in the Legion expansion, Suramar was shielded until the first content patch opened the zone and it is a GIANT city, it's one of the best zones ever made by Blizz in my opinion. The scene with the odd undead guy: That is Moros, the Majordomo of Kharazhan. Kharazhan is the ancient tower of Medivh, the Guardian. Khadgar now owns it being his apprentice and rightful heir to the title of Guardian, but as you recall from the Harbinger short, Khadgar refuses that temptation. Kharazhan however is a tower of many magical secrets and the Legion wants them, so they invade. The cutscene was there to introduce the patch that involved the events of that tower where we rush around to stop the Legion from taking control of the place. It's quite unique, the magics of that place are wild and you end up shrinking down to the size of ants at some point and fighting regular house spiders as these massive enemies and a small mana wyrm is a bossfight. The glowing yellow crystal is the "Heart of Xera" and bears a message from Turalyon. Khadgar, Turalyon and the elf chick that turns inky black later on (named Alleria) were part of a band of warriors called the Sons of Lothar during the events of Warcraft 2, and they pushed an assault through the Dark Portal to end the Orc threat once and for all. Things went wrong, Ner'zhul panicked and enacted a ritual that tore his planet apart. The Sons of Lothar stayed behind on Draenor to shut down the portal on their side and prevent the chaotic energies ripping Draenor apart from channeling through the Dark Portal and ripping Azeroth apart as well. Turalyon and Alleria got sent through time and space and ended up with the Army of the Light while Khadgar was left behind on Draenor until the Legion attacked during the Burning Crusade expansion (wow's 1st expansion). So Khadgar knows Turalyon's voice and visage, hence his vow to help his old friend. Gul'dan getting killed by Illidan is awesome. This is the culmination of our campaign in Suramar, and we liberate the city from the Legion. With this, we've also collected the five artifacts we need to end the Legion's assault, which leads us to the next scene and Kil'jaeden (big red dude) having none of that and unleashing a full scale assault on us. This is the dawn of the next big content patch where we have to assault the Tomb of Sargeras where the Legion is staging its attacks from.
The scene with Anduin finding his father's place of death is part of an optional minor quest that begins with you, the player, finding the locket that Varian lost in the ocean when the airship crashed, leading to you bringing the locket to Anduin, then Anduin goes running off to the island all this unfolds at and this cutscene happens. Notice how the sword glows with holy light when Anduin wields it, vs the primal red energy that came from Varian holding it. In the Legion expansion, "Legendary weapons" was the main shtick to lure in players and keep them interested, with every single class and subclass having their own unique weapon(s), carrying some of the most legendary weapons like Ashbringer, Doomhammer and the Scythe of Elune. Of course, Varian died right in front of the entrance to the afforementioned Tomb, so you can sort of make that out in the background. Illidan, Velen and Khadgar on Kil'jaeden's ship above Argus is actually the final section of the Tomb of Sargeras raid, the scene plays after the final bossfight (which is, surprising noone, Kil'jaeden himself.) As you see, Illidan forces the barrier between Azeroth and Argus open and now we're forced to attack Argus itself or Argus' hordes of demons will pour onto Azeroth uncontested. But we've just killed Argus' last leader, Kil'jaeden, leaving only Sargeras the Fallen Titan and he rarely shows his ugly mug. The next scenes are part of the assault on Argus, and mostly are character building for Illidan and Velen who are the main two characters you follow as you assault Argus. Velen used to live there and Illidan is the first Demon Hunter, so they both have their reasons to go there but their characters are wildly different and rub off on each other in different ways. Illidan may seem like an undisputed badass, but even he has his own things to contend with and Velen is nothing if not wise, which leads to the two bonding and befriending during this war. And obviously you can tell Illidans influence on Velen during the cutscenes. As for Xera... she's proof that The Light is not synonomous with Good. The Light opposes The Void, the two forces are like matter and antimatter, they're highly unfriendly towards one another. Having said that, The Void and its subservient force, Shadow, can be wielded in any myriad of different ways and in fact, Priests (the playable class in WoW) are capable of wielding Light and/or Shadow magic depending on which of their three subclasses you choose. Light and Shadow are two sides of the same coin, that being existence itself. Anyway, The Light is not Good and Holy, it's purely pragmatic and instill in its followers bravery and fervor, turning them into zealots. Illidan will have none of that and Xera is annihilated. Luckily for us players Naaru can never truly die, as they are just solid light. So her fragments are used to further empower Azeroth's champions to end the threat from Argus. Illidan remains to fight Sargeras. Those big people there are Sargeras' brothers and sisters, the Titans. The Titans are said to have been the ones bringing Order to the vast cosmos, and in fact are the beings who gave life to Azeroth by attacking and sealing away the Old Gods that corrupted the planet. Dwarves, Gnomes, Dragons, Humans and even Orcs owe their lives to the actions of the Titans, though how and why that is can be an essay for another time. Illidan's quote "The hunter is nothing without the hunt" is a repeat of what he said when he died in The Burning Crusade expansion when we kill him atop the Black Temple, and Maiev Shadowsong, the Warden who was hunting him, admits that Illidan was right. She felt empty without having her prey anymore. In this scenario however, Illidan is the hunter chasing down Sargeras. Sargeras' sword impales Azeroth. The sword is massive, someone calculated it to be around 4 kilometers long. That strange crystal they find? None of the cutscenes reveal what it truly is, only that its name is Azerite. It is the blood of Azeroth. See, Azeroth is a Titan like Sargeras and the guys who jail him for Illidan to fight. Possibly the strongest Titan in existence, but she is still not born. Azeroth is her egg or cocoon. Sargeras wanted to kill her before she is infected by the Void Lords' creations, the Old Gods, which are even now corrupting her from the inside like tumors (you'll see more of those soon). The Legion has always been his attempt at this, and it has failed at LEAST five separate times. Sorry for the essay and hope it was educational.
Thanks so much for giving us some more context for these. 🙂 Some of the scenes we were losses in for sure but others like Gul’dan getting wing smashed were quite satisfying even without all the proper context 😁
Blizzard makes the best cinematics AND their music is just... *chef's kiss* in game and in their cinematics, the music is just breathtaking. Also hands down the best line in the game is Illidan's: "I am my scars!"
I really enjoyed these reactions though the dynamic between Genn Greymane and Anduin is something that many I feel overlook. You see ever since the Worgen were Introduced Genn Greymane and his people were cursed to become what they are and with the Night elves helping them being able to control their curse they were able to join the Alliance. Yet, before this Genn Greymane had suffered greatly. He and his people have the curse, he lost his kingdom and during a fierce battle he lost his son who took an arrow, shot from Sylvanas, that was meant for him. Despite going through much hardship, however, he managed to build a strong relationship with Varien, Anduin's father, for, despite having some difficulty in the beginning, the two manage to form a strong bond for his people and the Alliancec. So in the event of Legion and after Varien sacrificed himself Genn knew that Anduin will need guidance. So when he comforted Anduin about his father heroic actions it also reflects back to when his own son sacrificed himself to save his father. They had both lost someone precious to them by Sylvanas, and he helps them get through this difficult time. So after all of this, the relationship they build is more of a surrogate father and son, even if it doesn't show it that way. King Greymane saw in Anduin his son likeness, albeit a little younger. But he will does what he can to help him and guide him to become a true king for the Alliance. Hence at the end when Anduin was giving his speech he was looking on in some small pride that he was able to help him. An elder wolf taking in a lone cub who had lost his kin, only to raise him so that he may lead the mighty pack. Hope you don't mind my explanation but I think it was worth mentioning the relationship between the two. If you are interested there is a really cool video showing what happened when the sword of Sargaras was plunged into the world and the people and creatures that happened to be near by. Would highly recommended before looking into the next video cinematic. World of Warcraft Extinction (Sargeras Sword Impact Cinematic , End of Legion) th-cam.com/video/HQ6Ue1LKb50/w-d-xo.html If you want to watch a fun fanmade video about varian's tribute there is this also this video below. Canticle of Sacrifice [WoW Machinima] th-cam.com/video/xnXzoSIt6_k/w-d-xo.html
subbed and bell activated. your reaction faces are priceless. ^^ hope you dont mind me commenting and sharing my thoughts. Wrath of the Lich King and legion were the best expansions by far, Battle for azeroth has some good cinematics though. That said they went rogue on the lore - like voljins death. Trolls are the one race that is near unkillable because they have insane regenerating abilities. Chop their leg off - it grows back. rip out their incestines...they grow back. anything that doesnt kill the troll instant like decapitation or a stab in the heart - they will survive. The pandaren were shocked to find that even slitting a trolls throat only incapacitated them for like 5 minutes before they were back FIGHTING. So Voljin dieing to a stomache stab is kinmda....weird. In special as trolls are also highly resistant to poisons and fel energy
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Just a tidbit of info, in WoW there exists 6 cosmic forces that is the source of all magic. Light = Holy Magic. Void = Shadow Magic. Life = Nature Magic. Death = Necromantic Magic. Order = Arcane Magic. Disorder = Fel Magic. From these forces also exists several creatures that are connected to it, like the Naaru (the Light being who tried to "heal" Illidan.) And in many ways, the Light is very similar to our world's Christianity since they believe that their way is the only way and if you disagree you are evil and most be purged. Similarly the Void also believes it's the real path but unlike the Light who only sees one path, the Void sees countless possiblities, and assumes all of them are right.
The purple guy (Velen), the red guy (Kil'jaeden) and the Blue guy from the dreanor and burning crusade cutscenes (Archimonde) are all brothers. Sargeras reached them with promise of power which is the Legion's Fel magic, but Velen didn't take it. His brothers did.
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Velen had the power to see the future for him to try and break off with illidans ways was a lot harder at first even tho he didn't have the power anymore.
The corrupted green dragon was Ysera, which could also be seen as one of the dragon aspects in the Cataclysm cutscenes. The Night elf that killed her was Tyrande, a powerful priestess which in her past was Illidan's love subject (Until he was banished for using Fel magic, i.e. becoming what he is now). Tyrande was also Ysera's friend.
Yseras cinematic is so impactful because she has always been extremely close to the Night elves, especially the druids so to see her become corrupted & fall in like her home turf is just heartbreaking & even Tyrande says "I must abandon my beloved, and subdue the most beautiful creature I have ever known." so this task is just extremely hard for Tyrande & the night elves from a story perspective & Tyrande is essentially us the player as to us. Ysera & the dragon aspects are like "untouchable" in the back our minds so to see one fall & by our own hands was rough. We had killed Deathwing & Malygos in the past (Yseras brothers) but they were introduced to us bad while Ysera we've known for years as beautiful, kind, & good.
Hey! Another great vid. :) (You guys look great btw) I'd say you described Legion perfectly as "Greatest Cinematics" from the in-game variant. Story wise it's really touch and go- though Suramar is one of the only things I loved, well until I realized it was all time-gated out the ass because, well... enjoyment must be forced in tid-bits, right? lol That first cinematic though.... it leaves me melancholy every time. I was so freaking hyped when I saw Varian and Sylvanas working together... things could have been so much cooler, not to mention more interesting and better-written if they had those two power-houses leading the charge. Oh well.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames The tagline for Legion was that no one was safe. Characters were going to die- that being said I think we all expected something a bad as the literal Legion- not just a bunch of servants to them; invading would have made people work together. I was a huge fan of Sylvanas pre-Cataclysm, mostly because in Cata they started showing her hand a lot more. As well as betraying her old views of how things work- for instance, her trying to literally enslave Eyir to become immortal as Val'kyr, which Eyir can create; can ressurect her. It made sense but... the literal tagline of Sylv's character was rising above those that would *enslave* her or her people. Combing her with Varian, who is the literal gladiator King of the Alliance with the spirit of Lo'Gosh, basically a demi-god; there was a lot of hope. I really wanted use to think that they both died in the Vanguard when the ship went down- but instead they were just behind enemy lines holding out. Not that it really matters now- the factions in BFA are just characters of their own. In the story of the wider game, the Alliance and the Horde both did great and terrible things. Then it's Horde Bad, Alliance Good- but now it's where the heck are we? Is this Azeroth? I don't care about cosmic bullcrap with characters I'm told to like/dislike. I actually stopped playing around mid to end BFA- I know you guys have watched a few but The Elderscrolls Online really does show every faction as good and bad- and every character has flaws. It is sad though, the last time I checked to see what WoW was going it was corrupting Anduin, who was honestly the last character I liked.
34:21 If you want to better understand what's happening here, there's an official audio drama called A Thousand Years of War - you'll learn who Alleria & Turalyon are (one is the dude with the glowing sword/Army of the light). There's a reason she's turned into a dark/void being ;). Also, they have a son together ^.^ lol. Worth mentioning also, The Tomb of Sargeras is another (official) audio drama; if you enjoy action alot- THIS is the one you may be interesting in hearing first! (it sets up the story during what *begins* The Legion expansion.). A Thousand Years of War, is what follows near the very end of it (Legion xpac). It just helps tie things together, also Khadgar (the mage with white hair) is friends with the 2 aforementioned, and his youth was literally drained from him during a battle between him and his once master/mentor; a mage you've seen before but wondered who that guy is? (as did I once lol) Medivh, he was the one that originally took the form of a flying raven, and garments with black feathers on the shoulders. In terms of raw power, Khadgar is more powerful than Jaina, each have their strengths for sure :) they also are part of the same council of other mages. In the game there's a quest where Medivh redeems himself at Karazhan, and you as the player can see how he and his former student/pupil reconcile as well.
The crystal they found at the end is cal Azerite, is crystalized blood that comes from the titan that is being cradle inside the planet (like the Celestials in the MCU) that started pouring out after Sargeras stabbed the planet.
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The answer to your question about Sylvanas without making spoilers is in the intro of when you choose an Undead-Forsaken to play in-game (which is the race she leads)... "Convinced that the primitive races of the Horde can help them achieve victory over their enemies, the Forsaken have entered an alliance of convenience. Harboring no true loyalty for their new allies, they go to any lengths to ensure their dark plans come to fruition. As one of the Forsaken, you must massacre any who pose a threat to the new order, Human, Undead, or otherwise." As you continue to journey, it will unravel the mystery further. Sylvanas is already plotting since Wrath of the Lich King, it was reveiled there but she managed to cover it up, then again in Cataclysm when she killed Genn's son in an honorless way after her defeat to the Gilnean Liberation Front patriots that defended their city and country against her sinister invasion with prohibited biological weapons, commiting war crimes that were later "forgiven" cause of her stance against Garrosh Hellscream. At Legion, she was looking mainly for power, using the horde and she is so well written till then that actual players of the game (including top world of warcraft youtubers) followed her, made excuses for her and supported her blindly. And this is where you actually are now, anything else would be a spoiler.
glad you enjoyed it, i would love to answer all your questions but the youtube character limit on comments would prevent from doing so properly, suffice to say the lore of the WoW universe is vast, and complex, as well as being an utter dumpster fire of hot garbage due to the number of times they have tried to rewrite certain things, or alter how stuff that happened in the past works now, changing entire storylines in the lore so that the gameplay actually makes sense, in all honesty, it's a mess, and would take a massive amount of time to explain fully in detail each individual aspect of the lore as it pertains to this series of cinematics.
The different timelines make it confusing as well 😂 But we are trying our best and there is so much out there for WoW that we aren’t in danger of running out of content to check out 😊
Seeing Illidan incinerate Gul Dan the same way Gul Dan did to Varian was ironic and very satisfying at the same time
Agreed 💯 😁
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Made the whole of warcraft fans cheer out loud.
Reason why I respect illidan
"The King who died for nothing" died for the Alliance. Gul'dan literally died for NOTHING!
A fun anecdote; after the cutscene with Varian's death played, there's a special graveyard for him in Stormwind City since he was their king. On many servers, even Horde players went there to kneel in front of his tombstone, even though they are the "enemy" faction. For a few days, Alliance players didn't attack the Horde players there even though they could if they wanted.
That’s a cool moment for the community ☺️
More importanly, anduins theme plays there, the best piece of music in wow
lol, depends on the server. There were quite a few where it was a warzone there for several days
lol fitting name, Bull. That's exactly what your story is beyond the graveyard part. There was tremendous animosity present at that point in time because of the two versions of the cutscene that were given showing the Horde's 'betrayal' and the reason behind it.
Reminds me of the day when Reckful died :(
Horde and Alliance went to the Chappel to pay their respects.
No one attacked each other.
35:27 That is Alleria Windrunner, Sylvanas' eldest sister, who in this moment became the first void elf (an alliance allied race). The human dressed in gold lightforged armour at 32:51 is her husband, Turalyon, who she has a son with.
Thanks for explaining those characters to us 🙂 we were bit confused 🤗
Not sure if someone commented on 20:58, but its such an important reference for old Warcraft 3 fans. In the night elf Warcraft 3 campaign, Illidan was looking for the skull of Gul'dan (GD originally died torn apart by demons in Tomb of Sargeras) as an artifact of great power that actually allowed him to learn the Metamorphosis ultimate power. Later he is seen with the skull of Gul'dan again in the Burning Legion cinematic, and the skull is a trinket drop from him in the Black Temple raid. The fact that he crushes the skull of the time traveling Gul'dan in this cinematic is such a great move, because he already has all the knowledge he needed by now, and the only thing that remains in him now is disdain for Gul'dan.
Ysera's fall never, ever fails to bring tears to my eyes and pain to my soul. That being said, without that we wouldn't have the remix of Nightsong and the climax of Ardenweald and well, if you know, you know.
Legion is such an experience. Even 40 some odd minutes of cinematics doesn't begin to touch that expansion. To wield the Ashbringer is every Ret Paladin's dream come true. To stand in the Netherlight Temple as a Priest. To walk the Halls of Valor as a Warrior and be honored by Odin himself. So much in the feels.
Speaking of feels, beware the Daughter of the Sea.
Could you link the version of the song you mentioned please? :3
Ysera´s fall did hit very hard the first time i saw it. Daughter of the Sea brought back very old memorys from WC3 and those who played Frozen Throne´s bonus campaign know what i mean.
Nice little teaser there at the end with the Daughter of the Sea 😯🤔
Ysera's fall was super sad, but also heartwarming in a way since you saw Elune save her Spirit from corruption and purify the Tears of Elune afterwards.
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As always, beware spoilers in the comments. ;)
I've moved on from this game after being a 15 year dedicated fan, but Rejection of the Gift, is the best gaming cinematic of all time.
"I am my scars", will stick with me till I die.
To me it means my imperfections, my damaged parts (physical and mental), are part of me, they make me who I am.
I’m just curious and it’ll help to gather feedback from other players. But what made you move on from the game? And what would bring you back, bring back the love for it?
I have my own project I’m working on, and I would like to make sure I’m perfecting it as I finally finish off the first step, Concept.
It’s a great line with a ton of weight and meaning behind it ☺️😎🤟🤩
@@edwardmire8134 With me it's 100% about the story. BfA really disappointed me in that regard, then Shadowlands just made me give up hope.
The next expansion will be the first I don't get. After watching the game for a few years and reading where the story goes, and not being disappointed by it, could maybe bring me back.
@@Cifer77 Oh okay well I'm 1000% sure I wouldn't have to worry about that then about my own project xD.
Anything else that would make or break the game for you?
@@eternallegacy89 A proper answer would require an essay lol. For a youtube comment, I'll just say smaller numbers are always preferable in an RPG to me. I don't want to see crits for 10,000, or 5,000,000. The number is so big it loses it's value. I'm happy living in stats with single digits, and 50 sounding like a big number.
Varian is still my favourite Alliance character in WoW. He was such a badass and a true leader to the very end.
graymane is a great character too
@@Andre-nz2xq pff Graymane is trash
He won us over in this video just in time to break our hearts 😢
Most good characters in WoW are or were Alliance from the start. Only a couple standout horde characters. Thrall, Garrosh and Sylvanas (if you can count her). Then you have a B-tier of characters that is as numerous for Horde as for Alliance. But overall, much stronger Alliance "cast".
@@MrZeuz666 Technically Sylvanas had also started out as Alliance, as the high elves were part of the original Alliance during Second War (Warcraft II). That being said she's an evil b*tch who's character had been utterly butchered by the current writing team, so who cares xD
4:35 Not just a badass... he is (or was) one of the greatest warriors the world of Azeroth has known, respected for his martial prowess even by members of the Horde, which earned him the moniker "Lo'Gosh", meaning "Ghost Wolf" in Orcish.
Ghost Wolf! Fnatastic nickname 🤩
That battle cry from Varrian as he emerges from the water and when he yells "FOR AZEROTH!" always get's me hyped!
That line from king Varian "what a king must do" and "for the alliance" before guldan killed him still giving me chills to this day
The for the alliance line definitely got to us 😢
what i like about legion is that every single class was key to defeat the burning legion: from the more pure-sided paladins ; shamans and druid to the dark power enfused warlocks and demonhunters; even the more grounded calsses like the rougue , hunters and warrior find a way to do their part at the end
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i hated the fact, that you as player become the head of your class-order. i mean, every paladin is the head of their class order.. 8000 class-order heads on each server.. players should never be in that place, always an NPC with rich story behind him. i liked it more when the player is just an adventurer that has achieved sth.. but after 15years of putting another step on top the powercreep is real and you cant just be an adventurer and his friends that brought down a dragon.
@@schippes24 as an aside, there are probably even more characters (belonging to players) than the population of the entire planet of Azeroth. Only a few percent of the world are probably supposed to be "adventurers" even.
and we Shadowpriests have the best of both worlds. Best artifact weapin above all - so cool that the persona involved is now returning to make life interesting in The War Within.
[Fun Fact: the Shadowpriest weapin Xal'atath's personality was voiced by Claudia Christian, better know as Susan Ivanova form Babylon 5]
AND we got our shadow buddies in the Ren'dorei - the VOid Elves. THe only other people who can understand us (Warlocks use fel and fire after all, no shadow)
I have had a really shitty day.... this long awaited notification from you made it slightly better
Sorry to hear about your day. 😢 But glad the video could help make it a little better 🤗
I didn't really have a bad day yesterday or so far today, but I can definitely relate to this comment. Feels good when you see an upload you are really looking forward to.
Man, I loved Legion so much! I still feel a hype for this expansion to this day, that I haven't felt since :(
Many people have expressed the same 🤗
Your World of Warcraft journey continues, and I am all aboard. You guys have definitely dug deep into WoW, cinematics and lore and so forth, I love it. Of course, it means you've been neglecting Final Fantasy and Elder Scrolls, but I understand. Too many franchises, too little time. Here we go with Legion! As I think I've said before, I've never actually played World of Warcraft, just the older regular Warcraft games, not a fan of online multiplayer, but I do try to keep up with the story and lore and everything through watching cinematics and reading the tie in novels, and yes, this was an awesome expansion/part of the story. Cheers!
This month is going to be heavy on WoW so we can complete our (initial journey). We are hoping to cover one franchise in depth a month. Last month was Warhammer. This month is WoW. Final Fantasy and Elder Scrolls will have their months in the future no doubt 🤗🥳
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames I hope ESO is currently my favorite game and I can't wait for you to react to more of it's cinematics.
This was a lot of fun to watch with you. This playlist was also more complete than the others, so it felt like it had more or an arc. Glad you enjoyed it!
We did. And we look forward to Warbringers next week 🥳
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yes please try to get another good playlist with a good story of videos to it. It is much more enjoyable then taking snapshots of a couple things that happened during the expansions.
Yeah, Prophet Velen had a lot of character growth in Legion. To give you a bit of info, the Prophet was one of the leaders of the Draenei on Argus, their homeworld. Initially, they were named Eredar, and were led by Prophet Velen, Kil'Jaeden (big red demon guy) and Archimonde (the big guy who gets killed at the end of Warlords of Draenor). Some 25 thousand years prior, Sargeras arrived to Argus with his Legion, disguising it as a force of good while promising the three leaders power beyond their reckoning. While Kil'jaeden and Archimonde were enticed by it, Velen wasn't, and he already foresaw doom. So instead he started praying for a way to save his people, and, lo and behold, celestial beings made of pure Light named Naaru (like the one who talked to Illidan and tried to "heal" him) appeared. Most of the Eredar had already been corrupted by the Legion at that point, so Velen gathered all those he could save and with the help of the Naaru, they escaped Argus on a ship called Oshu'gun, which eventually ended up crash landing in Nagrand, on the planet that they named Draenor. They called themselves the Draenei, which in their language meant "exiled ones" and soon after discovered that Draenor was already inhabited by someone, namely, the orcs, who were natives of that planet.
And just to expand onto that a bit, the orcs and Draenei actually got along and worked together until the Legion found them again and corrupted the orcs by tempting them to drink the demons blood turning them into blood thirsty savages. This is also where the orcs on Azeroth get their green skin from as orcs originally had brown skin.
You also see a scene in Warlords of Draenor where the orcs refuse the demon blood offered by Gul'dan. This is the part where they originally drank it but Garrosh from our Azeroth gets sent to an alternate world Draenor where the orcs refuse the blood of the demons and he convinces them to unite into the Iron Horde and build the Dark Portal to invade into Azeroth. Hence the start of Warlords of Draenor.
Thanks so much for giving us more of a background on Velen so we could understand his point of view better 😀🤩
Legion was truly the last great expansion for WoW. The story was great, the raids were amazing, and it really felt like it was the conclusion of huge part of Warcraft's story. The cutscene at 35:46 plays after you've defeated the final boss in the last raid and it really feels like the end of a chapter. The Burning Legion has been defeated once and for all and hey we all kinda worked together to do it. Maybe we can stop with all the Alliance vs Horde stuff and begin a new chapter against a new threat with a unified Azeroth...
LOL j/k the next expansion is about everybody hating each other again fighting over the glowy crystals that came out of the ground from being stabbed by a giant space sword.
Haha, we figured the feud would start back up again 😛
Most shocking plot development in wow:
The draenei haven't crashed the vindicaar. Yet.
"But with our track record, it's only a matter of time."
THey didnt crash the Exodar smartass, the blood elf agents of Kael'thas aboard it Sabotaged it while in interdimensional flight - that's why it was literally shedding major sections before crashing on Azuremyst. Missing engine elements are all over Bloodmyst Isle
So, one aspect with this expansion that isn't quite obvious from the cinematics is the "gimmick" of Legion: In the first cinematic, we see the armies of the Alliance and Horde get brutally defeated at the Burning Shore. They also lose their respective leaders, and both of these giant political coalitions basically go into crisis mode. They're not really fit to continue the war against the Legion. And so they kinda take a backseat.
For most of the expansion, players would instead seek out these secretive organizations focused around their respective classes. Hunters had this secret lodge high in the mountains where all the world's best hunters resided together. Paladins had a secret cathedral underneath a small church. Death Knights sought out and got the support of the new Lich King (the dude who took over Arthas was killed, if you remember), and so on and so on. These secret organizations had to come into the forefront to fight the Legion basically through special operations (it was still normal questing and gameplay, but that was sorta how it was presented narratively) because facing the Legion head-on was suicide. The class-based organizations sought out artifacts unique to each class (technically unique to each specialization within a class) and power them up by performing various things. So for the endgame of the expansion, you would run around with a single weapon instead of routinely switching from one to a more powerful one. These weapons would be used by one champion (each player was essentially presented in-universe as THE champion of their class, but obviously everyone got one) to defeat the demons.
This is why Sylvanas and Anduin were kinda in the background for this expansion, they were mostly doing damage control and trying to rebuild after the disaster of the opening cinematic, while the various class champions assumed the spotlight. Each class organization also had an NPC character who was sorta the leader of their class overall, or perhaps more accurate the mentor figure of the player character. For example Illidan was the leader for all the Demon Hunters. All the other class organizations had their own mentor figures but they were all mostly figures you would only know if you've played the game itself. They were cool, and some were big revelations that had been hidden until that time, but if I tell you their name you wouldn't know who the hell they were, lol.
Velen the Prophet is so heavily featured because he is of the same race as most of the leaders of the Burning Legion. He basically saved a small minority of Draenei who didn't want to join, and they've been hunted down ever since. This expansion basically completed his character arc, much like it did for Illidan, of course. That sigh you see Velen do at the end is the first time he could let his guard down in 10,000 years.
(As a sidenote, that dragon that first got corrupted and then basically "put down" because they couldn't save her was Ysera, the Dragon Aspect of Dreams. She was very beloved by the Night Elves, and had raised one of their main leaders as her own son, and when druids go into hibernation, they live with her in the Emerald Dream. Putting her down absolutely devastated them. But also, as she died, we see her true spirit get pulled out of the corrupted body, and put into the heavens as a constellations of stars by the Night Elven Moon Goddess Elune. Every World of Warcraft nerd cried bitter tears from that cinematic. It's super sad and very well done. It is also one of the only times we've seen Elune directly intervene.)
Thanks for explaining the dragon scene more to us. Kind of wish we got more of a build up previously because we imagine that scene was even more gut wrenching than it looked to us 😢
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames All of the questing zones in Legion (And WoD, where they started this) have a climatic final sequence. That happens to be Val'sharah's end scene. Questing through the entire zone serves as buildup, above and beyond all the times we've interacted with the Green Dragonflight over the years and expansions.
Thx bro
CRITICA LPOINT OF CLARIFICATION: Velen and the Good Eredar, later renamed Draenei, have been fleeing for 25000 years (the 10000 figure is the Legion's first arrival and sundering). The Eeedar crash landed on the planet they would call Draenor (since the Genedar ship was basically worn out after 25K) perhaps a no more than a few centuries ago. THey only fled that planet when it was clear KilJaeden had found them and there was again no other choice.. to they took the Exodar, but Kael'thas had agents aboard who wrecked the engine causing the crash landing on Azeroth's Azuremyst Isles. The Draenei have only been on Azeroth for ~20 years, and had only stopped on Draenor maybe 3 centuries ago (based on their civilzation size/growth we see).
35:14 and THIS is why Illidan is the biggest bad ass in WoW.
He basicaly told the "Angel" of ligth to go fuck themselfs.
Agreed. Best moment 😎🤟🤩
Agreed. Best moment 😎🤟😈
The moment Velen comforts his brother Kil'jaeden before he passes is just...Lovely reaction, you two !
Glad you enjoyed it! 😀
Legion was the best expansion WoW ever had. No doubt WotLK was amazing too, but amount of things to do in Legion and it's lore makes Legion on top.
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Agree legion was the modern version of WotLK in my opinion, if that expansion didn't happen after wod the game would be dead, now we need legion 2.0 after shadowlands so that game can stay alive haha
Yet the sheer nostalgia keeps wotlk on the top for most wow players.
Sort of wrong. The fact that tbc matches with the level of how much they liked the expansion, legion is not topping wrath anytime soon, or ever
Panda was the most fun though
Easily my favorite expansion! So many incredible story moments and beautiful cinematics! Really glad you two are enjoying your Warcraft journey!
We are! And it continues next week with Warbringers 🥳🥳
I really wish you guys have done smaller parts for this. Cause this is literally too much to explain. But I like to explain stories.
Legion is really felt like the endgame. All stories are finally connecting and makes sense.
But before breaking down cinematics....have to explain the story of Warcraft universe and Sargeras.
Birth of Universe :
In the beginning there was only Light and void, clash cause the big bang and 4 more power sources. Oder, Chaos, Life and Death.
The Pantheon :
In time, life start to born on any plants...same way first Titan was born from a planet. He's "Amanthul".
He was alone first and he searched all over cosmos for more like him. And he found 6 more and build the "Pantheon of Titans".
Quest for life :
These 7 titans have one goal. Find and help and protect unborn Titan souls. "Sargeras" was specifically task with defeat demons and void beings. He's traveling around universe imprisoning any demon he fought.
Corrupted Titans :
During his search he found a new titan world already populated with demons. When he tried to clean up the world he realises, the sleeping soul is having nightmares, negativity and hatred boiling inside him. Then a Demon told him, the Void has already corrupted the soul in oder to make a Void titan. Sargeras instantly draw his sword and destroyed the corrupted world killing the titan.
Azorath :
Sargeras return to Pantheon to inform about this void titan.. but Amanthul is furious about what he did and Banished him.
Pantheon then found another unborn Titan, Azorath, our planet. But corruption of Azorath already started.
4 void beings are fueling the soul with Nightmares. these 4 are known to be Old God's in wow history.
Amanthul instantly rips Yaksharaj from planet, but this cause a wound on planet's surface. And also Yaksharaj's blood rained over Pandaria giving life to Sha.
Pantheon then realized, best way to do is to seal remaining 3. They build artificial humans called Titan keepers to fight them on planet. (Very same plot in Eternals movie) Titan keepers create more weaker beings. And more and more beings. Eventually sealed 3 Old gods in structures.
The wound has become the "Well of Eternity", oozing blood of the titan.
Also titans gift 5 artifacts to help the war, which became the "Pillars of creation"
Fall of Pantheon :
Sargeras not having any alies, he returned to prison he created for demons and released them. And recruit them and form the "Burning Legion".
Sargeras return to Pantheon and inform about his Crusade, but Amanthul told him about Azorath. Confrontation end with Sargeras defeating 6 others and prison them.
They never told him where was Azorath, do he start spreading agents to look for them.
Argus :
While looking for Azorath, he came across another soul already being corrupted by void. That's Argus.
Argus is populated by Eredar, a race devoted to light and highly intelligent. Sargeras told the story to leaders of Eredar to recruit them.
Kiljaeden And Archimond joined the legion while prophet Velen saw the darkness and escaped to Draenor.
Instead of destroying Argus, Sargeras saw a opportunity, Argus have special power over reincarnation. Sargeras siphon this power to instantly ressurect anyone from his army. Technically use him as a battery.
Also Argus is the base of operations for Legion.
War of Ancient :
There many failed attempts to find Azorath. But eventually they found a connection.
"Well of Eternity" has evolved the races of Azorath into much intelligence races. Thus Elves born.
Elves quest for knowledge has contacted Sargeras.
Elven Queen, Ashara made a pact with Sargeras to summon his army here in exchange of knowledge. Argus story same way.
And rest of story I explained before, how Illidian and nightelves and Dragon aspects rebel against queen.
Ok to the cinematics.
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Voljin, Varian and Sylvannus you met already.
High tinker Mechatorque - leader of Gnomes who was on the robo mech suit.
Genn Greymane - leader of Wogens, (Wogens are technically warewolves, long story)
In cinematic Guldan was send to Azorath (if you remember end of Draenor ). Guldan open the gates of Tomb of Sargeras ( this is where Agewynn sealed the body of avatar of Sargeras, I explained in last wow video). And Horde and Alliance joined forces to face the invasion.
"Voljin" got stabbed to death, made horde retreat and eventually King "Varian" sacrifice himself.
(There is reason to this attempt to fail, the alliance SI7 unit tasked with tactics for this battle. But a dreadlord process 'Spymaster Shaw" to lead this trap, he was saved later.)
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Voljin die because if poison, and Sylvannus named as next leader because someone Whisper voljin to do so. It is Muezzala, the god of death actually whispered him.
Bain bloodhoof - current leader of Taurens.
Lothemar Theron - leader of bloodelves.
Gallivix - Leader of Goblins.
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During events of Legion, Sylvannus and Genn got into a side fight. They always hated each other.
While players looking for "Agis of Aggramar" on of pillars of creation, Sylvannus met with Helya, Helya is titan keeper control over hell.
Sylvannus stole a lantern from hell which allows to bind Valkyr to her will. And Valkir can bring back dead. She tried to enslave "Eir" queen of Valkyr. Which Genn destroy the lantern.
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Players looking for 2nd pillar of creation. The "Tear of elune". "Xavius" found it before us and use it on Yesara. The Dragon aspect of life (present in previous cinematics too). And enslaved her.
Xavius - key figure during war of Ancient and left hand man of Queen Ashara. He was fallen to legion portal during war and tortured for 10k years Nd became powerful demon.
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Yesara is defeated and Tear of Elune acquired.
Tyrande also present in cinematic.
Tyrande - leader of nightelves, former love interest of Illidian. Wife of Illidian's brother Malfurion.
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Suramar story is self-explanatory.
One thing is that power they use to form the shield is one of Piller of creations called "eye of Amanthul". For 10000 years Suramar thought outside world is destroyed by legion.
Thier change from Nightelves to Nightborn.
First Arcanist Thalysra - the person giving monologue. She will become leader of Nightborn.
Queen Ashara also can be seen in cinematic.
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Another Side event, "Moroes' help legion to take over towers of Karazan, hoping it will give him his master back. So Kadghar have to clean up again.
Moroes - personal servant of Medive. He loved Medive as a parent. When Medive battle Kadghar, Medive absorb Moroes lifeforce killing him.
Later Moroes return as a undead.
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In Karazan, Kadghar find a message left by "Turalyon", who was missing for years.
Message was embedded to a heart of dead Narru.
Turalyon - one of first Paladins, the hero of the 2nd war of humans Vs orcs. Best friend of Kadghar. Member of Sons of lothar. A faction create to protect Azorath from orcs.
Turalyon and his elven love "Aleria windrunner" disappeared years ago hunting legion.
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Meanwhile Guldan's attempt to make Illidian into Puppet ruined by players and Illidian returns.
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You can see all 12 class leaders...and that too much to explain.
The red demon is Kiljaeden. And he's referring about events of Argus.
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Meanwhile "Anduin", prince of alliance go retrieve his father's sword.
Genn and Velen are also present in cinematic.
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Tomb of Sargeras fight end when we Finally confront Kiljaeden in Argus.
Kiljaeden defeated, Illidian use the "Sargarite keystone" to make a gateway to Azorath from Argus.
Velen show the future to Kiljaeden before he explodes.
And later they found, Illidian had created permanent portal between planets.
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So we ventured to Argus, take the fight to them.
There we meet Army of the light, a faction did not escape Argus but stayed and fought pledge Thier ultimate loyalty to light. And been fighting for more than 1000 years
"Turalyon" now act as general of army of the light.
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Army of the light use the heart of Narru to ressurect her again. Xiera, the prime Narru of army of light.
She had a prophecy that Illidian will be greated lightforge warrior.
You can see "Turalyon" there now forged by light too.
"Aleria" is also present In the cinematic.
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Another side story. The Lura, the Narru who was on ship now consumed by void..Aleria tried to save Lura but instead all powers transferred to Aleria.
This is cool cause her Husband is lightforge and she's now void forged.
Alleria windrunner - elder sister of Sylvannus windrunner.
(Missing Cinematic) - we saved the prisoned souls of Pantheon. And they broke the final seal to release the Argus' soul. But his soul is too broken and he need to killed.
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After Argus dead, Pantheon use his energy to summon Sargeras back to Pantheon.
Illidian stays to finish his deals with Sargeras.
Just when we know, Sargeras was already here watching over Azorath secretly.
He tried to kill Azorath just before he got pulled back.
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The war is over, "Anduin" finally people at Varian's funeral.
"Spymaster Shaw" bringing news about Azerite.
The wound cause by Sargeras sword causing life blood of titan to flow. A powerful mineral.
Spymaster Shaw here is not possed one, he was saved.
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On Horde side, "Bain bloodhoof", "Sarufang" are celebrating the victory while "Gallivix" showing Sylvannus about Azerite.
Nathanos brightcaller is also present in this cinematic. (Red eyes human)
He's Sylvannus love interest and known as greatest simp of Warcraft.
So why was Sylvanas essentially chosen by the god of death to be the next warchief? Because it seems she leads them down a much darker path from what we’ve heard (and seen a bit already for our reaction next week Warbringers 🤗)
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Well it really play part In Shadowlands story, BFA is only teasing Sylvannus true goals.
But as many players. I will also say, Story in Shadowlands is kind of not well written.
For now I'll say,
The one who whispered is Muezzala, Not Bhonsambdi which you will meet soon.
He's actually not a god, Loa of dead. Loa is name give to gods worship by Trolls and Nightelves.
Loa is someone blessed or empowered beings, by power entities like Titans..... I'll explain when Rezan or Bhonsambdi showup in a cinematic.
There are many Loas,
So they are not specifically good or evil.
(Similar to Hindu gods)
Loas did play big role in stories but mostly side characters until Battle for Azorath.
That was EPIC!!! That was just too EPIC!!!
GLORY be to Illidan!!! GLORY be to the Master!!!
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Darn it, I was writing a comment towards the end of the video and TH-cam jumped to another video, not saving what I'd written. AARGGHH!
But yeah. As disjointed as this must still be for you, it's still possible to follow this story through to the end, and it honestly is only the second (perhaps third) time in the history of WoW that it feels like an ending to something. And yes. It's so epic!
And obviously it's even more deep when you know all the underlying lore. Legion was so huge, and lots of it connects back up to 20 years of story. All of these clips make me emotional in some way! The fact that Legion is sad is part of why it's so good. It continously feels like there are things at stake for real! Characters are actually killed off etc. It's good writing!
There's more "pretty decent" stuff to come for you (BfA has great cinematics at least), but I'd just say that unless WoW and Blizzard turns the boat around and gets the glory of WoW back. I'll just consider the end of Legion my headcannon ending of WoW. Will be interesting to hear what you think of the direction of the story going forward considering your desire to understand Sylvanas better. Outside perspective and all that.
Love this though! Peace
We appreciate you rewriting this for us 😀 We got most of the story through these scenes but obviously there were still characters who we had no clue who they were and didn’t really comprehend the significance of the dragon dying. We just hated seeing that even without knowing. And yes, the fact that this expansion can make us go through a rollercoaster of emotions is why it stands out so far to us 🤩
invading argus was epic to play. Seeing turalion and alleria again was beyond words to describe it. Probaly wows coolest love couple with a tun of backstory....and we havent heard from them in 2 DECADES...and then puff ...there they are. When the turalion and alleria story happened most wow players werent even born yet XD And then they got seperated. He became the light, she became the shadow and now their love becomes their doom as they cant be near each other anymore...
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At 22:08 that was the first time Valen referred to Kil'jaeden as a "monster" as Valen always called him "brother"; even though Kil'Jaeden had hunted Valen across the stars for thousands of years. They were best friends before Kil'Jaeden joined the Legion.
Thanks for a little insight into their history and backstory 😀
I love the Legion expanssion. The Legion has been known to have their fingers in many of the proverbial massive plot pies in the whole Warcraft Lore, only beaten by the machinations of the void beings. Here, we basically told them, "Hey, you've been trying to take over Azeroth for a while now. How about you come over and we'll show you just how bad of an idea that is!" While we see in the opening cinematics how badly they devastated us at the start, we manage to pick ourselves back up and finally turn things around, ending with us finally beating a major bad guy who has plagued us from the very start.
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Well, so these trailers leave a bit open, so I will try to summarize to the best of my ability without spoiling future content.
1. First that should have some additional information is Sylvanas controlling the Val'kyr. Without spoiling too much future stuff, she did that mainly to save her own life. At this point we know, that after the fall of the Lich King, she killed herself. But was shown hell, where she would go. Which of course terrified her. So the Val'kyr that served the Lich King, who did not want to serve the new one offered her a deal, that they will serve her and keep her alive. She accepted and one of the Val'kyr went to hell in her stead. She died once more after that, this time costing three val'kyr. Out of Nine she was losing Val'kyr quite quickly, so she just wants to have more, that is why she was doing it there and Genn stopped her. (Also another reason might have been, that undead cannot procreate and Val'kyr can make more).
2. The Dragon in the cinematic is Ysera, the Dreamer. She is basically responsible for a place called The Emerald Dream. Which is a pristine copy of Azeroth, druids go there to learn and it should be a nice place. There is this thing called the Nightmare that corrupts it tho. And the Satyr guy that fires at here is Xavius, he is corrupted by the Nightmare and he makes her corrupted as well. Which is why in the next cinematic, you see her dying to Tyrande (the leader of the Night Elves), who she held very dear. But could not control herself. What happens to her in the end, at this point, we though the Goddess of the game that the Night elves pray to, Elune (symbolized as the moon) brought her to herself, because she is associated with Ysera. There is a lot more story there, that was revealed in current expansion, that sort of retcons or narrows a lot of stuff said before, so noone is really sure anymore .. (FYI I loved Ysera and it was a painful moment for a lot of people that we had to kill her.)
3. The character in front of the tower in Karazhan, his name is Moroes. He is the steward of its former master, Medivh. Pretty sure he was in Warcraft movie, just not undead yet.
4. Turalyon and the Army of the Light is a very long story, but basically these were the first cinematics showing, that the Light is not really "good". The fanatical part of it is just as bad as void, or the legion and such. They just wanted to show us that there isn't really a good guy, just what we do.
5. The elf getting blasted by the purple (void). Her name is Alleria Windrunner and she is one of the two sisters of Sylvanas. While her boyfriend (Turalyon) is busy obsessing about the light. She is trying to learn as much as possible about it's counterpart, The Void. So that is her, absorbing powers of the Void, technically turning into the first Void Elf. Which is a "allied race", techincally as sub-race now in WoW on the Alliance side.
6. The big cinematic about the giant stabbing Azeroth is a bit more difficult to explain. They all are Titans and they created basically everything on Azeroth and on many more worlds. (Currently they are not really the Gods, but they were treated like that in the lore back in the day). One of them, the flaming one, Sargeras is the leader of the Burning Legion. I am not sure if someone told you why the burning legion exists, but basically and quickly: Demons are rampaging across the universe, so Titans choose the strongest warrior from them, Sargeras, to eliminate the threat. He does so and locks the demons away. But during his work, he finds out, that there are more evil beings, the Void Lords. Which try and corrupt worlds from which Titans are born. (one of these worlds is Azeroth, yes the world players live on is a place in which a nascent Titan sleeps). And because Sargeras did not see a simple way to beat the Void Lords, they cannot even cross into our reality. He decides that the easiest way is to destroy every world in the Universe, because they could all be corrupted and they cannot cleanse the corruption (The corruption are The Old Gods, which are seeped deep inside of the worlds and cannot be really removed). That is why Sargeras is so desperately trying to destroy Azeroth. Because if she gets corrupted, she might bring the end of the universe and the Titans, because she is supposed to be the most powerful of them all.
7. The shiny rocks at the end are called Azerite .. and they are basically Azeroths blood, because she just god stabbed by a bigass sword. (The swords is still inside of the world by the way, we just sacrificed our very powerful weapons to make it not .. "poison" her. At least.)
Hope I helped a bit, the lore gets changed a lot. Blizzard created these books called "chronicles" to streamline the lore which was across many books. And to make sure they can still retcon stuff, they said, that the books are from the point of view of the Titans, therefore leaving themselves to changes, because the Titans do not know everything. Very lazy way to do something like that, they do not seem to be trying anymore much ...
Pretty good summary, I would add 3 pieces of information to it:
1st Ysera, the Dragon, it was already said before, but she was 1 of 5 Dragon aspects, we have seen her in elf form in the past, mostly in Deathwing act.
2nd Velen and Kil'Jaden 29:48 You can see the three of them, brothers, leaders of the Draenai. When offered power by the Legion, Archimonde and Kil'Jaden accepted the power, and became commanders of the demon army, we have seen Archimonde since Warcraft 3 many times, since he is a warrior type, leading the frontline himsele. Kil'Jaden was a strategist, who led Legion by scheming and corrupting creatures on other worlds. The Giant red guy is him, in Fel powered form, dying there, revealing that what he did, he did out of desperation since he did not believe Sargeras could ever be stopped.
3rd - A bit more about Titans, it was said in the past but there is no harm in a reminder :)
Titans are literally planets with souls, there are very few of them and finding more is the very reason of their existence. Titans "hatch" from the planet, turning into humanoid form once they awake. The pantheon at 36:00 consist of all remaining Titans.
As said, Sargeras wants to destroy all sleeping Titans? Why? Because he would rather purge the world than let Void Lords enter the reality, and sleeping Titans are easy to corrupt.
Azeroth (main planet) is a partialy corrupted, sleeping Titan, as well as a Titan with the most power within it, as such, it is the highest priority for Titans to protect Azeroth, while for Sargeras to destroy it.
Thanks so much for giving us all this background info. We were especially curious about the dragon as that part seemed to be the most random from an outsiders perspective watching this 😊🤩
I love your reactions, especially the World of Warcraft videos! Thank you for making them!
Our pleasure! Have even more coming this next month 🥳🥳
Wohoooooooo was waiting for this for a long time ! amazing amazing reaction for both of you ! :D
cant wait for part 7 - battle for Azeroth !
Next week is part 7 Warbringers 😁
I love ur reactions. i cant wait for WARBRINGERS. *.*
Tuesday! 🥳🥳
u guys seemed really moved by the losses from this expansion, love it, i was tearing up every moment of this journey with you :)
Hi guys, I just wanted to congratulate you on getting that many subs and approaching 100k !! Like many people, I really like you personalities, and your reactions on WoW. The lore in this game is impressive, its characters are charismatic, and as a 50 year old French "dude" I can say this game can really be addictive. I've been playing WoW for around 17 years now.
Gonna continue watching your reactions. Wishing you the best for you journey as TH-camrs :)
Thanks so much for the well wishes! Glad you are enjoying the reactions for our WoW journey. 😀🙂🥳
It's still give me chills... Nice one guys! Greetings form Paraguay.
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I wait the whole month for this
You won’t have to wait that long for the next one! Got a WoW triple trailer Tuesday next week 🥳🥳
one interesting tidbit of lore: Illidan's phrase "the hunter is nothing without the hunt" is a callback to when he died at the end of The Burning Crusade - he said that to Maiev, who had been his warden for the 10 thousand years he was imprisoned then hunted him down after Tyrande broke him out of prison, before he died
All comes back full circle 🥲
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames since you've seen warcraft3 cinematic as well, you probably realized that he also likes the "sometimes the hand of fate must be forced" phrase as well haha
you embody the reactions i had as a player so well. legion was an amazing exspation and so utherly heartbreaking. when ysera got corrupted and killed i cried so hard.
😢🤗 this expansion was so incredibly sad
Awesome sauce that you are actually watching the patch cinematics for a chance to understand the world a little bit more 💯💯👍👍👍
We can’t get them all in right now but it helps give us a little bit more context for this. After our initial journey we plan to watch the 23 minute timeline recap 😇
This is one of the better expansions for the game and there is a lot of lore scattered throughout the entirety of this expansion and a lot of cinematics that help to tie everything together for the storyline. I loved the look on Gul'Dan's face when those wings opened. Illidan was an awesome character and one of my favorite redemption arcs that was displayed.
Agreed. 😁 Glad Gul’dan got what was coming to him and long overdue
WOO LEGION! FINALLY! Best WoW expansion by a mile!
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yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss!!!!!! this is what I was waiting for a long time! love your videos!
Glad to hear 😀🥳🥳 December is going to be a good month for our WoW community 😁
"You will be warchief"
Sylvanas: "oh no.. anyway where's my torch?"
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Finally, more wow reactions, I have been waiting for this :D
That’s very kind of you to say 🥰🤗☺️ We won’t make you wait long for the next WoW vid. Coming next week is Warbringers 🥳
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Well that is more than amazing 🥳. Soon enough you will be up to date, there are not many cinematics left.
I'm glad to see you guys enjoying Warcraft. It's one of my favourite games.
Got more coming this week. Warbringers on Tuesday 🥳🥳
I really enjoyed this reaction video! Imma watch all the previous episodes now, thanks guys. (WoW fan)
Welcome! Glad you found channel and can join us on our journey. Great timing to because we are finishing it up this month and have another one coming out tomorrow 🥳🥳🥳
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames looking forward to it, binged the whole playlist already :D
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Yup teared like a man when Ysera (dragon) died. Loved your reaction to Legion though. Ysera was a huge deal in the World of Warcraft Lore as being an aspect of the Dream. She was loved by all the Night Elves. Yeah i cried hahaha
We only saw the dragon and got misty eyed. Can only imagine the feels it brings on knowing more about Ysera 😢
The thing with the Prophet Velen is he isn't guided by pure faith, he has faith but he also has the 'Sight' which grants him visions of potential futures and helps him avoid them. If it wasn't for Velen the entirety of the Eredar Race would have been corrupted by the Legion. Instead he managed to save a small portion and they became the Draenei that would eventually join the Alliance.
The dynamic between Velen and Illidan to me is more Velen has patience and wisdom, while Illidan is impatient and demands action. And they both can temper one another a bit.
Since while Illidan did accomplish a lot, he also did alot of shitty things as well, I mean hell he flip flopped between helping his people and serving Sargeras and then back to his peoples side because of his own ambitions.
Your introduction to him in Warcraft 3 basically super simplified involves Tyrande freeing him, Illidan promising "I won't consume anymore demonic magic." And then immediately goes and consumes more demonic magic. A lot of his initial choices and goals revolved around trying to impress Tyrande and woo her despite her affections laying only with his brother Malfurion.
He may try to retcon his own past that 'Every choice was to stop the legion.' But he'd be lying his ass off.
Illidan is passionate so it makes sense love is what drove him to be who he is now. Didn’t know Velen had the sight but also, you have to have faith in your sight to follow it 😊🤗
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Aye it definitely does take faith to trust in those visions. I was just trying to illustrate how he isn't completely blinded by it, and he always has tended to listen to others input as well when coming to decisions. But he is definitely very of the 'long game' mentality.
Though he's definitely not perfect and has his faults just like Illidan.
He is not lying his ass off. Oh sure, he may have done it FOR Tyrande, to save her. But his goal is still very much to stop The Burning Legion, and I bet it's very much not just for Tyrande, because frankly - It all ends if Sargeras wins. His goal is literally to destroy and remake the universe. It's not a "sort of, maybe." It's a certified "Universal re-origination requested."
(ignoring the fact that he already killed most of the other titans, and couldn't create a new universe even if he wanted to. All that's left is their spirits and some small fraction of their power - Which they used to imprison him).
@@Nyarlathotep_Flagg He is lying his ass off, back in the war of the ancients he switched sides because of his own arrogance and ambition several times. You're attaching meta knowledge to Illidan that he hasn't always had. He didn't seriously start moving to try and destroy the burning legion until after Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne. Before then he was still doing things based on his own impulse and ambition, trying to continue to impress Tyrande before finally realizing that will never happen.
I'm not saying he didn't eventually start putting every choice to trying to destroy the legion, just that him trying to claim literally every single choice he's ever made has been with that goal in mind is his own retcon as it simply isn't true.
Love it, cant wait for you to check out all the Battle for Azeroth cinematics, hopefully youll watch ALL of them. like, the cutscenes, the CGI Cinematics AND the Warbringers animations, Jaina, Azshara and Sylvannas. It's some of the best cinematics in WoW IMO
Also, Illidan is one of my top fav chars in WoW and The Gift cutscene (where he blasts the hell out of Xe'ra) is amazing
Warbringers is next week. 😎🤟🥳
Awsome , enjoyed it as allways have a good rest of the week :)
Thanks! You too. ☺️🤗🥳
I LOVED Suramar when they released it, and as the xpack progressed you slowly liberated it from the legion and blizzard dropped the ball because Suramar City would have been awesome as a capitol city. When i played wow, i was horde, But i always respected Varian Wrynn, He was an honorable man. Also i noticed you guys liked his sword, Its called the Shalamane, its the result of 2 night elf weapons being magically fused. Shalla'tor and Ellemane.
Also, idk if i mentioned this or not, but i love you guys! i always look forward to your videos!
Sadly, it's as an Alliance main one of my grip with Alliance. Varian was honorable and respectable, but wouldn't shy away from violent actions and things like that. And while I love Anduin as a character, like the golden boy, etc... I do think it would have been a better narrative to have a bad Alliance leader, rather than a saint, after Varian.
In short, I love Anduin, but I think another character would have been better for the overall story of the game.
His sword was amazing! 🤩 he could use it as one or break it into two it looked like. 😀
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yep, and one other thing about breaking the weapon in two. Only one with true honor could split the weapon into it's two individual halves. Hence why in Battle For Azteroth when Anduin gives that weapon to Saurfang to face Sylvanas in the Mak'gorah Saurfang was able to split the weapon into it's two halves, because he was an orc that had true honor within him,
@@xJamesLaughx - No. Bad. Spoilers. Stop.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah, i always loved that about his sword! i wish more video games had swords the player could use that are like that.
Seeing the death of Varian will never get any easier to watch as well as the Night Elf parts which hit hard for me aas a Night Elf main.
There were a few cutscenes missing. The ones about Illidan's youth explain his motivations and the ones about Velen explain who Kil'jaeden, Archimonde and Sargeras are. The ones about Agrammar, Eonar and Argus would have also explained who the Titans are.
There are some good videos out there it seems they go deeper into Illidans story that we want to check out after all this. 🙂
I've played World of Warcraft since 2005... nearly 20 years. These are more than just characters in a story for some of us. Watching Varian Wrynn go out like that... was epic... and sad at the same time.
dont forget the "light" tried to force its will on to illidan till he laser beamed it. also the legion is doing what its doing is because the leader of the legion is trying to stop even a bigger evil known as the void lords, and he figures if he kills everything the void cant take over.
Void Lords definitely sound like trouble 😱
The Legion expansion for World of Warcraft was definitely a return-to-form for the game.
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I do wish somebody made a sort of a description to read in between the cinematics so as to explain what happened in each one or what led to the cinematic as some things just don't connect, such as when you saw Eyir being subjugated by Sylvanas and then right after we get Ysera being corrupted by Xavius, a complete set of different characters / story within the expansion, and right after Ysera's death without any info on what happened between her corruption and her untimely demise
Actually a short little run down inbetween cinematics to recap what we missed or need to know would be super helpful. Maybe there are videos out there like that 🤔
There is so much in game lore for why Ysera's (The Dragon) death is so impactful not just as a narrative tool but in the impact on me. This was a VERY rough pack of expansions for me... going from Legion which had Ysera's death (She is literally my favorite Dragon in all of fiction), going into Battle For Azeroth where in the only two characters I have as tattoos on my Body are of Ursoc and Shadra (A big ol' Bear God, and the Spiritual progenitor of all Spiders), Ursoc dying in Legion as a Raid boss (also corrupted) and Shadra being killed by her own high priestess. Then going into Shadowlands, I will hold off on spoilers since to my knowledge you haven't seen the covenant cinematics yet... but everything going on in these three expansions have been wildly emotional for me as someone whose been playing at release.
Ysera is the Progenitor, Queen of the Green Dragon Flight and steward of the realm known as the Emerald Dream. She's known as the Dreamer, for when she walks in one world her eyes are closed and fixed in the other. She raised Cenarius, the Demi-God of the Forests on behalf of her friend Malorne (who was killed by Archimonde in the War of the Ancients, a war that predates the stories established in Warcraft), who is a great stag dubbed one of the "Ancients" and a God in Nature's pantheon, and Elune (The Moon Goddess, who is with in the theology of Night Elves removed from her people physically... she is thought to have made the Night Elves but really acts as their patron).
She only opened her eyes twice in the course of the story prior to her untimely fate in Legion. Once being the birth of Cenarius and the other at the killing of her oldest friend, Malorne. The intervention of the Dragonflight during the War of the Ancients was so pivotal that even though Archimonde murdered the Father of the Forest, his doing so was what led to their defeat.
She is observed having Elune intervene on her behalf, pulling her soul out of her body and creating a constellation in her image... which is one of the only in game examples of Elune directly intervening in an event in the history of World of Warcraft.
Ysera is a character, dragons are characters too as far as we are concerned 😇, we wish we could’ve known more about before seeing this. Many have said how truly heartbreaking that scene was 😢
This was great, even if it hurts to see the Vol'Jin death scene again. He ever was my Warchief. So sad he died so early!
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God, Varian’s fall always brings me to the verge of a crying mess. Which makes Gul’dans fall all the more incredible. I mean serving under Varian since 2005 and watching him die in Legion was the only cinematic that made me cry from sadness rather than how epic these cinematics are.
😢🤗 Just when he was really winning us over, he was killed 😭
the one with illidan and guldan is especialy funny
in warcraft 3 illidan was just a normal nightelf demonhunter, but he came across a demonic relic the skull of guldan (and no, thats not metaphorically), upon touching it illidans body reacted to the demonic magic and took on the form we see him in now, he gets defeated in burning crusade then warlord of draenor happens and the alternate time guldan comes to our azeroth and uses the crystal containing illidans corpse for his own gains and then the cinematic happens and illidan holds guldans skull once again
All comes full circle 😁
You'll get a lot more of Sylvanas in BfA so don't worry about it!
Glad you enjoyed the Legion experience though, It's by far the best expansion story wise since it completely closes the case of Warcraft's biggest villain which are the demons and Burning Legion and honestly everything after Legion is just a mess, so... sorry about that in advance lmao
I don't think you guys would realize the issues with it cause you aren't a full time lore nerd like us but... BfA expansion aside from Saurfang's story is a giant mess and in Shadowlands they retconned so much that it doesn't feel like the same world anymore so yeah...
Anyway love your reactions keep it up! ❤
Yeah we have a little ignorance is bliss going for us with these so hopefully we can enjoy BFA and Shadowlands more because of it 🤗
Illidan is my absolute favorite character through out the wow (world of warcraft) series. Ever since I started playing and witnessing the stories and getting to know his background just tugs at the heart strings.
We want to dive more into his story for sure as he was one of the standouts for us 🙂
I actually really enjoyed the long video with all these story videos!
Happy to hear! 😀😀🥳🥳🥳
Prophet Velen is one of the most tragic characters in WoW especially when you read the books. There you know about the hard decisions he had to do to save his people. Without him, there would be no Draenei for us to play. He is a badass character in his own way.
When you go to him and help fight off the legion invading the Exodar and it ends with him realizing the enemy is his son. I wish there had been a cinematic to go along with his dialog.
😎🤟 lot of love for Velen and we are glad to see it and learn more about him 😊
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames There are a few ingame cutscenes with him in patch 7.3 Shadows of Argus. Legion was maybe the best WoW expansion for all time.
@@decayeddivinity9916 - Very true. Great quest. Deserved a cinematic.
Khadgar: What have you done?!
Illidan: Sometimes... the hand of fate must be forced. 😎
Xe'ra: Great, Chosen One! I'm glad you feel that way!
Illidan: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Not MY hand of fate!
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The green dragon was Ysera, the Aspect of the Green Dragonflight and the Ruler / Guardian of the Emerald Dream, a spiritual realm of creation.
The demon who fell Ysera was Xavious, who was responsible for the corruption of the Emerald Dream, turning it into the Emerald Nightmare.
The elf was Tyrande, the High Priestess of the Moon. The love interest for Illidan and Malfurion.
Thanks for the info and answering our questions 😀
Illidan is by far my favorite warcraft character since warcraft 3, his story is amazing. I know you guys would love it, theres kinda a mash up video explaining it all.
We plan to explore his story more for sure 🤩
You can also watch "World of Warcraft Extinction (Sargeras Sword Impact Cinematic , End of Legion)". A little addition to Legion final cinematic.
On our list to check out. though we won’t get to it before Tuesday for our Warbringers reaction. 🤗
OH YEAH! Illidan will always be the greatest wow character ever! Can't wait for Battle for azeroth and Shadowlands cinematics.
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@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames i haven't checked yet but did you react to "the story of illidan stormrage - full version (lore)"? also i suggest watching the video "arthas did nothing wrong". these give you tons of back story on two of the warcraft universes most beloved villains/heroes. their story is sad and epic at the same time.
A lot of the scenes in Legion make little sense without playing the Legion campaign itself as they are the final climax of each individual zone. Going forward, this is a typical move from Blizz to reward the players for completing a zone's main questline and while it's awesome, it's not really conducive for a cinematic watchthrough.
So with that said, lets boil down a couple things we see here, hopefully it'll help put things more into perspective.
First up, the scene of Sylvanas vs Genn Greymane. This is a crossroads of several storylines, one beginning in the Worgen starting zone of Gilneas, another beginning at the events of Wrathgate from Wrath of the Lich King, and the third storyline beginning in Stormheim, one of the zones of the Legion expansion. In short, Sylvanas is attempting to mind control the precursor of the Val'kyr, a species capable of crossing the border between life and death, for a purpose you'll learn more of in future expansions. Genn Greymane of course has an unending hatred of Sylvanas for killing his son in Gilneas years ago (this event is part of a questline, not a cutscene, so you wont know this without playing it yourself as a Worgen starting character.) Well you see how it goes. Genn survives, if you're worried about his wound. First thing we're told after the cutscene as Alliance is that his poisoned wound is not lethal.
Second thing we have here is the Satyr throwing the red gemstone at the green dragon and the following scene where she dies. This dragon is Ysera, one of the four remaining Dragon Aspects of Azeroth, who as you may recall lost all her powers at the end of the Cataclysm expansion after killing their wayward brother Deathwing. The Dragon Aspects have never had a good run in Warcraft. Alexstrasza the red dragon aspect was enslaved by the Orcs in Warcraft 2, Neltharion the black dragon aspect became Deathwing during the War of the Ancients 10,000 years ago, Nozdormu the bronze dragon aspect becomes Muruzond the "infinite" dragon aspect and attempts to kill himself from a point in the future to change the timeline (We end up killing him at some point, but Nozdormu is still around until that moment when he becomes Muruzond, so he's both dead and not. A curious case.) Malygos the Blue dragon aspect lost most of his dragons during the War of the Ancient and the loss drove him mad. In Wrath of the Lich King, we need to kill him or he would have turned all magic on Azeroth against the inhabitants of Azeroth, as Malygos was the "Aspect of Magic" and believes no mortal should possess magical power.
And finally, Ysera of the Green dragonflight, the little sister of Alexstrasza. She bears an intrinsic connection to the Night Elves and the Emerald Dream, a mirror world of Azeroth where the world remains untouched by thinking lifeforms, so nature has grown wild and free. The Satyr, Xenagos, uses the corrupted Tear of Elune in an attempt to dominate her like the orcs did to her sister before, and the Night Elves are forced to slay her before she annihilates the Emerald Dream. At the end there, you can see Elune, the Moon Goddess of the Night Elves, reach down and bring her spirit to the stars. It's all in all very sad, very emotional and beautiful. A tragic loss. And yes, we kill Xenagos, he gets his comeuppance for this.
I dont need to explain the Suramar scene, it's pretty straightforward. The "second coming of the Legion" is concurrent with everything else happening in the Legion expansion, Suramar was shielded until the first content patch opened the zone and it is a GIANT city, it's one of the best zones ever made by Blizz in my opinion.
The scene with the odd undead guy: That is Moros, the Majordomo of Kharazhan. Kharazhan is the ancient tower of Medivh, the Guardian. Khadgar now owns it being his apprentice and rightful heir to the title of Guardian, but as you recall from the Harbinger short, Khadgar refuses that temptation. Kharazhan however is a tower of many magical secrets and the Legion wants them, so they invade. The cutscene was there to introduce the patch that involved the events of that tower where we rush around to stop the Legion from taking control of the place. It's quite unique, the magics of that place are wild and you end up shrinking down to the size of ants at some point and fighting regular house spiders as these massive enemies and a small mana wyrm is a bossfight.
The glowing yellow crystal is the "Heart of Xera" and bears a message from Turalyon. Khadgar, Turalyon and the elf chick that turns inky black later on (named Alleria) were part of a band of warriors called the Sons of Lothar during the events of Warcraft 2, and they pushed an assault through the Dark Portal to end the Orc threat once and for all. Things went wrong, Ner'zhul panicked and enacted a ritual that tore his planet apart. The Sons of Lothar stayed behind on Draenor to shut down the portal on their side and prevent the chaotic energies ripping Draenor apart from channeling through the Dark Portal and ripping Azeroth apart as well. Turalyon and Alleria got sent through time and space and ended up with the Army of the Light while Khadgar was left behind on Draenor until the Legion attacked during the Burning Crusade expansion (wow's 1st expansion). So Khadgar knows Turalyon's voice and visage, hence his vow to help his old friend.
Gul'dan getting killed by Illidan is awesome. This is the culmination of our campaign in Suramar, and we liberate the city from the Legion. With this, we've also collected the five artifacts we need to end the Legion's assault, which leads us to the next scene and Kil'jaeden (big red dude) having none of that and unleashing a full scale assault on us. This is the dawn of the next big content patch where we have to assault the Tomb of Sargeras where the Legion is staging its attacks from.
The scene with Anduin finding his father's place of death is part of an optional minor quest that begins with you, the player, finding the locket that Varian lost in the ocean when the airship crashed, leading to you bringing the locket to Anduin, then Anduin goes running off to the island all this unfolds at and this cutscene happens. Notice how the sword glows with holy light when Anduin wields it, vs the primal red energy that came from Varian holding it. In the Legion expansion, "Legendary weapons" was the main shtick to lure in players and keep them interested, with every single class and subclass having their own unique weapon(s), carrying some of the most legendary weapons like Ashbringer, Doomhammer and the Scythe of Elune. Of course, Varian died right in front of the entrance to the afforementioned Tomb, so you can sort of make that out in the background.
Illidan, Velen and Khadgar on Kil'jaeden's ship above Argus is actually the final section of the Tomb of Sargeras raid, the scene plays after the final bossfight (which is, surprising noone, Kil'jaeden himself.) As you see, Illidan forces the barrier between Azeroth and Argus open and now we're forced to attack Argus itself or Argus' hordes of demons will pour onto Azeroth uncontested. But we've just killed Argus' last leader, Kil'jaeden, leaving only Sargeras the Fallen Titan and he rarely shows his ugly mug.
The next scenes are part of the assault on Argus, and mostly are character building for Illidan and Velen who are the main two characters you follow as you assault Argus. Velen used to live there and Illidan is the first Demon Hunter, so they both have their reasons to go there but their characters are wildly different and rub off on each other in different ways. Illidan may seem like an undisputed badass, but even he has his own things to contend with and Velen is nothing if not wise, which leads to the two bonding and befriending during this war. And obviously you can tell Illidans influence on Velen during the cutscenes.
As for Xera... she's proof that The Light is not synonomous with Good. The Light opposes The Void, the two forces are like matter and antimatter, they're highly unfriendly towards one another. Having said that, The Void and its subservient force, Shadow, can be wielded in any myriad of different ways and in fact, Priests (the playable class in WoW) are capable of wielding Light and/or Shadow magic depending on which of their three subclasses you choose. Light and Shadow are two sides of the same coin, that being existence itself. Anyway, The Light is not Good and Holy, it's purely pragmatic and instill in its followers bravery and fervor, turning them into zealots. Illidan will have none of that and Xera is annihilated. Luckily for us players Naaru can never truly die, as they are just solid light. So her fragments are used to further empower Azeroth's champions to end the threat from Argus.
Illidan remains to fight Sargeras. Those big people there are Sargeras' brothers and sisters, the Titans. The Titans are said to have been the ones bringing Order to the vast cosmos, and in fact are the beings who gave life to Azeroth by attacking and sealing away the Old Gods that corrupted the planet. Dwarves, Gnomes, Dragons, Humans and even Orcs owe their lives to the actions of the Titans, though how and why that is can be an essay for another time. Illidan's quote "The hunter is nothing without the hunt" is a repeat of what he said when he died in The Burning Crusade expansion when we kill him atop the Black Temple, and Maiev Shadowsong, the Warden who was hunting him, admits that Illidan was right. She felt empty without having her prey anymore. In this scenario however, Illidan is the hunter chasing down Sargeras.
Sargeras' sword impales Azeroth. The sword is massive, someone calculated it to be around 4 kilometers long. That strange crystal they find? None of the cutscenes reveal what it truly is, only that its name is Azerite. It is the blood of Azeroth.
See, Azeroth is a Titan like Sargeras and the guys who jail him for Illidan to fight. Possibly the strongest Titan in existence, but she is still not born. Azeroth is her egg or cocoon. Sargeras wanted to kill her before she is infected by the Void Lords' creations, the Old Gods, which are even now corrupting her from the inside like tumors (you'll see more of those soon). The Legion has always been his attempt at this, and it has failed at LEAST five separate times.
Sorry for the essay and hope it was educational.
Thanks so much for giving us some more context for these. 🙂 Some of the scenes we were losses in for sure but others like Gul’dan getting wing smashed were quite satisfying even without all the proper context 😁
If i could put Legion as an expansion into one word, it would be "exemplary".
Quality word ☺️
Thanks guys, the best expansion ever (with WotLK)
Our pleasure ☺️
Blizzard makes the best cinematics AND their music is just... *chef's kiss* in game and in their cinematics, the music is just breathtaking.
Also hands down the best line in the game is Illidan's: "I am my scars!"
I really enjoyed these reactions though the dynamic between Genn Greymane and Anduin is something that many I feel overlook.
You see ever since the Worgen were Introduced Genn Greymane and his people were cursed to become what they are and with the Night elves helping them being able to control their curse they were able to join the Alliance. Yet, before this Genn Greymane had suffered greatly. He and his people have the curse, he lost his kingdom and during a fierce battle he lost his son who took an arrow, shot from Sylvanas, that was meant for him. Despite going through much hardship, however, he managed to build a strong relationship with Varien, Anduin's father, for, despite having some difficulty in the beginning, the two manage to form a strong bond for his people and the Alliancec. So in the event of Legion and after Varien sacrificed himself Genn knew that Anduin will need guidance. So when he comforted Anduin about his father heroic actions it also reflects back to when his own son sacrificed himself to save his father. They had both lost someone precious to them by Sylvanas, and he helps them get through this difficult time.
So after all of this, the relationship they build is more of a surrogate father and son, even if it doesn't show it that way. King Greymane saw in Anduin his son likeness, albeit a little younger. But he will does what he can to help him and guide him to become a true king for the Alliance. Hence at the end when Anduin was giving his speech he was looking on in some small pride that he was able to help him. An elder wolf taking in a lone cub who had lost his kin, only to raise him so that he may lead the mighty pack.
Hope you don't mind my explanation but I think it was worth mentioning the relationship between the two.
If you are interested there is a really cool video showing what happened when the sword of Sargaras was plunged into the world and the people and creatures that happened to be near by. Would highly recommended before looking into the next video cinematic.
World of Warcraft Extinction (Sargeras Sword Impact Cinematic , End of Legion)
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If you want to watch a fun fanmade video about varian's tribute there is this also this video below.
Canticle of Sacrifice [WoW Machinima]
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We certainly don’t mind the explanation and appreciate you explaining the dynamic between Greymane and Anduin more clearly to us. 🙂
Love it! Thank you :)))
Our pleasure 🥳🥳
I miss Legion so much so many good memories and fun expansion
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subbed and bell activated. your reaction faces are priceless. ^^ hope you dont mind me commenting and sharing my thoughts. Wrath of the Lich King and legion were the best expansions by far, Battle for azeroth has some good cinematics though.
That said they went rogue on the lore - like voljins death. Trolls are the one race that is near unkillable because they have insane regenerating abilities. Chop their leg off - it grows back. rip out their incestines...they grow back. anything that doesnt kill the troll instant like decapitation or a stab in the heart - they will survive. The pandaren were shocked to find that even slitting a trolls throat only incapacitated them for like 5 minutes before they were back FIGHTING. So Voljin dieing to a stomache stab is kinmda....weird. In special as trolls are also highly resistant to poisons and fel energy
Welcome!! Glad you enjoyed the reaction and of course we don’t mind you sharing your thoughts. Very much encouraged and appreciated on this channel 😊🥳🥳🥳🤗
Just a tidbit of info, in WoW there exists 6 cosmic forces that is the source of all magic.
Light = Holy Magic.
Void = Shadow Magic.
Life = Nature Magic.
Death = Necromantic Magic.
Order = Arcane Magic.
Disorder = Fel Magic.
From these forces also exists several creatures that are connected to it, like the Naaru (the Light being who tried to "heal" Illidan.)
And in many ways, the Light is very similar to our world's Christianity since they believe that their way is the only way and if you disagree you are evil and most be purged.
Similarly the Void also believes it's the real path but unlike the Light who only sees one path, the Void sees countless possiblities, and assumes all of them are right.
Thanks for the info on the different sources of magic! 😀 That is something that has not been covered yet for us 😊
The purple guy (Velen), the red guy (Kil'jaeden) and the Blue guy from the dreanor and burning crusade cutscenes (Archimonde) are all brothers. Sargeras reached them with promise of power which is the Legion's Fel magic, but Velen didn't take it. His brothers did.
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all cinematic of legion... is so insane!
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Velen had the power to see the future for him to try and break off with illidans ways was a lot harder at first even tho he didn't have the power anymore.
The corrupted green dragon was Ysera, which could also be seen as one of the dragon aspects in the Cataclysm cutscenes. The Night elf that killed her was Tyrande, a powerful priestess which in her past was Illidan's love subject (Until he was banished for using Fel magic, i.e. becoming what he is now). Tyrande was also Ysera's friend.
Was wondering when this was going to be posted!
Okay, glad you found it! You can ignore our other comment with the link to this 🤗
Oh man this was the best xpac. Resolved storylines ten plus years in the making. I miss it.
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I really love how kil'jaeden literally hangout on sargeras :D 23:24
Only 2 cinematics have ever made me cry. Varian dying was one of them.
Which one was the other? 🤔
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nice videos i like. nice reactions an dcinematics, u are genius
No matter how many times I see Ysera's death, it always brings tears to my eyes.
Many have said the same 😢
Yseras cinematic is so impactful because she has always been extremely close to the Night elves, especially the druids so to see her become corrupted & fall in like her home turf is just heartbreaking & even Tyrande says "I must abandon my beloved, and subdue the most beautiful creature I have ever known." so this task is just extremely hard for Tyrande & the night elves from a story perspective & Tyrande is essentially us the player as to us. Ysera & the dragon aspects are like "untouchable" in the back our minds so to see one fall & by our own hands was rough. We had killed Deathwing & Malygos in the past (Yseras brothers) but they were introduced to us bad while Ysera we've known for years as beautiful, kind, & good.
Hey! Another great vid. :) (You guys look great btw)
I'd say you described Legion perfectly as "Greatest Cinematics" from the in-game variant. Story wise it's really touch and go- though Suramar is one of the only things I loved, well until I realized it was all time-gated out the ass because, well... enjoyment must be forced in tid-bits, right? lol
That first cinematic though.... it leaves me melancholy every time. I was so freaking hyped when I saw Varian and Sylvanas working together... things could have been so much cooler, not to mention more interesting and better-written if they had those two power-houses leading the charge. Oh well.
Yeah we were kinda bummed as well that the pact didn’t last that long between them 😕
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames The tagline for Legion was that no one was safe. Characters were going to die- that being said I think we all expected something a bad as the literal Legion- not just a bunch of servants to them; invading would have made people work together.
I was a huge fan of Sylvanas pre-Cataclysm, mostly because in Cata they started showing her hand a lot more. As well as betraying her old views of how things work- for instance, her trying to literally enslave Eyir to become immortal as Val'kyr, which Eyir can create; can ressurect her.
It made sense but... the literal tagline of Sylv's character was rising above those that would *enslave* her or her people.
Combing her with Varian, who is the literal gladiator King of the Alliance with the spirit of Lo'Gosh, basically a demi-god; there was a lot of hope.
I really wanted use to think that they both died in the Vanguard when the ship went down- but instead they were just behind enemy lines holding out. Not that it really matters now- the factions in BFA are just characters of their own. In the story of the wider game, the Alliance and the Horde both did great and terrible things.
Then it's Horde Bad, Alliance Good- but now it's where the heck are we? Is this Azeroth? I don't care about cosmic bullcrap with characters I'm told to like/dislike.
I actually stopped playing around mid to end BFA- I know you guys have watched a few but The Elderscrolls Online really does show every faction as good and bad- and every character has flaws.
It is sad though, the last time I checked to see what WoW was going it was corrupting Anduin, who was honestly the last character I liked.
I would suppose you don't realize, but the latest expansion cinematic you reacted to? It's this, the sword at 37:50
thanks for making me cry guys, i forgot how sad legion was...
We didn’t realize how sad it was 😢😢
The shadowlands set you'll be watching is going to be epic
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34:21 If you want to better understand what's happening here, there's an official audio drama called A Thousand Years of War - you'll learn who Alleria & Turalyon are (one is the dude with the glowing sword/Army of the light). There's a reason she's turned into a dark/void being ;). Also, they have a son together ^.^ lol.
Worth mentioning also, The Tomb of Sargeras is another (official) audio drama; if you enjoy action alot- THIS is the one you may be interesting in hearing first! (it sets up the story during what *begins* The Legion expansion.). A Thousand Years of War, is what follows near the very end of it (Legion xpac). It just helps tie things together, also Khadgar (the mage with white hair) is friends with the 2 aforementioned, and his youth was literally drained from him during a battle between him and his once master/mentor; a mage you've seen before but wondered who that guy is? (as did I once lol) Medivh, he was the one that originally took the form of a flying raven, and garments with black feathers on the shoulders.
In terms of raw power, Khadgar is more powerful than Jaina, each have their strengths for sure :) they also are part of the same council of other mages.
In the game there's a quest where Medivh redeems himself at Karazhan, and you as the player can see how he and his former student/pupil reconcile as well.
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The crystal they found at the end is cal Azerite, is crystalized blood that comes from the titan that is being cradle inside the planet (like the Celestials in the MCU) that started pouring out after Sargeras stabbed the planet.
pediatric narcologist barmen warcriminalcraft racist game is lie propaganda to force players to kill nations.
What is nation?
Humans born without nationality, born without fascism, nationalization in childhood make them.
False value, false enemy, false nation definition make false enemy, destroy value of life.
Nationalist kleptocracy created fa, refuse value of life and human rights.
Reward for worsening is kleptocracy support, steal reward system.
Support nationalist kleptocracy, participate in war crime.
Wikipedia false nation definition changed always.
They kill for nation, they not know what nation is.
Not can distinguish between race and nation.
Many program errors.
Golden toilet marauder hilterugend science academy economy, kill and loot.
Big cost in money and time.
Sacred satan religion war godless church.
Killing for religion of peace, priest ten commandments.
False race definitions, false nation definition, make players to kill nations, made fa.
Overpopulation family values.
Booze narcologist barmen alcohol chemical addiction for children.
The answer to your question about Sylvanas without making spoilers is in the intro of when you choose an Undead-Forsaken to play in-game (which is the race she leads)... "Convinced that the primitive races of the Horde can help them achieve victory over their enemies, the Forsaken have entered an alliance of convenience. Harboring no true loyalty for their new allies, they go to any lengths to ensure their dark plans come to fruition. As one of the Forsaken, you must massacre any who pose a threat to the new order, Human, Undead, or otherwise."
As you continue to journey, it will unravel the mystery further. Sylvanas is already plotting since Wrath of the Lich King, it was reveiled there but she managed to cover it up, then again in Cataclysm when she killed Genn's son in an honorless way after her defeat to the Gilnean Liberation Front patriots that defended their city and country against her sinister invasion with prohibited biological weapons, commiting war crimes that were later "forgiven" cause of her stance against Garrosh Hellscream. At Legion, she was looking mainly for power, using the horde and she is so well written till then that actual players of the game (including top world of warcraft youtubers) followed her, made excuses for her and supported her blindly. And this is where you actually are now, anything else would be a spoiler.
Thanks for explaining more about her without giving away any spoilers. 🙂
glad you enjoyed it, i would love to answer all your questions but the youtube character limit on comments would prevent from doing so properly, suffice to say the lore of the WoW universe is vast, and complex, as well as being an utter dumpster fire of hot garbage due to the number of times they have tried to rewrite certain things, or alter how stuff that happened in the past works now, changing entire storylines in the lore so that the gameplay actually makes sense, in all honesty, it's a mess, and would take a massive amount of time to explain fully in detail each individual aspect of the lore as it pertains to this series of cinematics.
The different timelines make it confusing as well 😂 But we are trying our best and there is so much out there for WoW that we aren’t in danger of running out of content to check out 😊