You have to remember WWII never happened in this universe, meaning their weapon technology and fighting doctrines were still styled after WWI. Which as we know, saw the deadly effectiveness of static defense positions.
Also the geopolitical in this universe is heavily divided, the whole idea of the survival of all mankind is still alien concept. The Chimera could have been contained and exterminated much earlier if the Russia and the US did not adopt the isolationist policy. The US would not fall if FDR was in charge since he would send troops to Europe take down the Chimera as soon as possible
@@DerREALpatrich The M5A2 Carbine- the weapon you are referring to was actually developed rather late in last ditch effort of solidifiying the United States Armed Forces in case of an Chimera attack since the government knew rather early about what was happening in Europe.
it’s almost ten years since any Resistance related content was released. My hope is grim. Along with the very few gamers who still remember this series yet alone those who actually played these games during their prime are even rarer. & it’s sad since Resistance has so much future potential.
Resistance 2 had some great world building with its' Intel and viral marketing... and it's such a shame that almost none of it mattered when Resistance 3 came out.
Resistance 2 was a good game but the weakest of the series. Resistance 3 was fantastic as it was about what was left of humanity trying to survive in a war it had lost. Remember not all stories have to have the happy ending to make them a amazing story and if something like Resistance did happen in real life then we would probably loose.
imo I think Resistance 3 gave a new perspective on the game. Like from the previous game where a soldier joined with a special forces to defeat the Chimeras, and in the third game, a traitor in the forces now has to contend to his old duty of saving the world by himself as an atonement for his betrayal.
Resistance 3 was a great game in terms of gameplay, and the story was pretty decent. A shame it disregarded or forgot so much of what came before :/ Hope it gets remade by actual fans sometime.
The faro plague is one of the most depressing things I have ever had the pleasure of discovering. My jaw hit the floor when I realized what happened...
@@nobodyherepal3292 idk, they've totally cocked up some reboots, but if they just left the old games alone and went for a whole new story about for example, the chimeras advance through Europe, or the first days of the American war, and just left the hale/capelli arc alone it could be quite good.
For a killer app made just to sell consoles, it sure as hell knows how to make an atmosphere. Every game pushes mankind back further until all that remains are a few desperate survivors living in isolated communities. Like goddamn, I haven’t seen a war setting so oppressively hopeless since Gears of War.
@@nobodyherepal3292 tbh yeah. Better we never have another Silent Hill game than some cheap trash farmed out to cowboys who think it begins and ends with "ooh Pyramid Head, he's scary, let's toss him in there". And, better we never have another Resistance game than one flooded with MTXs and season passes and this and that.
Counter point. Although it didn’t save the United States as a country, it might have still saved mankind. The Chimeran fleet was devastated, which allowed Nathan Hale to destroy the remainder with a single crude atomic weapon. If the fleet had been intact by the time of Resistance 3 then the Chimeran death squads would been completely unstoppable, and there’s no way Joseph Capell would have succeeded in his mission to destroy the wormhole tower in New York. Personally, I think the attack on the Liberty Defence Perimeter is a case of winning the battle but losing the war. Thoughts?
I agree. The aliens suffered heavy casualties (though I get the idea the Chimera don't care how many common drones die), and that would have hindered them.
I think the destruction of the chimerian fleet only really delayed the end. By the end of Resistance 2, humanity's population had been reduced to 10% and the chimeria's last real threat SRPA and the United States armed forces was defeated. So I mean even if the fleet had or hadn't been destroyed, it wouldn't have mattered.
I disagree. The Chimera are pretty monofocused and most likely the entire fleet would still have concentrated over the gulf of Mexico densely enough to be taken out.
Perfectly written. And also, with only 10% of humanity being left, the chimera were unable to create the vast amount of hybrids and other Chimeran types that they could before. Humanity being almost destroyed caused the chimera to struggle with creating new soldiers
Resistance is imo the best depiction of the War of the Worlds scenario. The "aliens" are actually infected people (among other living things) from a near incurable virus; we never get to fight the actual "pure" Chimera so who knows how powerful they really are. Setting the game in a retro 1950s timeline creates a larger tech gap between humans and the aliens. Victories against the Chimera are only minor setbacks (ex: abandon angel command structure; conversion centers to spinners; building spaceships & drones). With most of humanity wiped out the survivors had to abandon "Resistance" and simply try to survive on a Earth controlled by the Chimera. Most games/movies that depict a war against aliens always showcase humanity having a stronger success when fighting back. Resistance on the other hand creates a situation in which the humanity's fight in utterly pointless.
yeah that like half life you are never shown how powerful the combine is just that they took Earth in 7 days and what you have a hard time in Half life 2 is just the reserve that they put into the planet
If you love another Alien Invasion during World War 2, Trying reading or listening to the audio books of Worldwar: In the Balance series by Harry Turtledove. The Aliens invade Earth during 1942 and forces the Allies and the Axis to hold off their hostilities and face their new powerful enemies, while the Aliens are force to adapt to new political issues and fighting a primitive, but industrialized species. 4 books overall.
@@aoki6332 Not even reserves, they're basically a locally indoctrinated militia. The Combine has nearly zero interest in humanity beyond its use as raw material. And even that non-zero percentage has more to do with the G-Man and our portal tech accidentally doing something there's cannot.
Resistance is a fascinating setting, because it's post-apocalyptic but understands this doesn't necessarily have to mean "just dudes in biker gear running around innawoods with guns".
Although it is true that postapocalyptic settings are usually inspired by Mad Max, the Resistance setting is barely postapocalyptic to begin with, you could call it "apocalyptic", but the chimeras threaten to completely erradicate humanity unlike more focused postapocaliptic settings like nuclear holocausts or zombie pandemics that simply make life more difficult for the survivors
@@Mrlighthouse1000 Yes I agree, good point. I guess scenarios such as the one in Resistance are so uncommon that it's somewhat of a perception gap where it fits regarding post-apocalyptical vs. just apocalyptical (the latter also being a rare genre). For example, something like Neon Genesis Evangelion is purely apocalyptical, because humanity still retains most of its warfighting and economical capacity (bear with me, in-universe they actually DID have an "apocalypse" that killed like half of the world, but they recovered and the setting is NOT post-apocalyptical. They have the tech and industry to build giant robots). In Resistance, meanwhile, humanity is both *already* degraded, and is now being even _further_ degraded. Also, humanity has already ceded a lot of territory to the invaders (Eurasia), which is unlike the case with traditional apocalyptic fiction like Eva. So, definitely, it's a hybrid scenario. If humanity weren't already degraded significantly (like in a post-apocalypse), the setup would just be way less interesting IMO. As said, such "humanity being pushed back, not defeated" stories are just way too rare, full stop. Another example would be Muv-Luv Alternative, where humanity (also) has given up most of mainland Eurasia to the invaders, and is currently fighting in Japan and Kamchatka.
too bad the series was short-lived but I suppose it's better than being milked dry and infected with worthless political garbage like so many great franchises these days
@@evanhunt1863 I am pro-diversity, pro-diversity in political opinion and freedom to express it. The chimera and their similar ilk IRL on the other hand... 😏 And calling the wokeist for what they are isn't "hate". Just a reminder.
@@EarthForces "Diversity in political opinion." That's funny coming from a guy who just expressed dislike at the idea of others having differing opinions.
@@RobtheStampede not to mention that you are voluntarily letting yourself get surrounded on 4 sides. Surely it's better to retreat into some actually defensible territory
I never really cared for the later Resistance games, but I still hold out hope that Fall Of Man will someday get a remaster. That was honestly one of the best shooter games I ever played as a kid, and a great example of quality worldbuilding.
It's sad that the Resistance series have been discontinued. Some of its lore have never fully explained, and there's lots of chances to create new stories and further explore the Resistance universe. This series could have been compete against Halo.
On the other hand, I feel like the series was allowed to go out on a strong note and a lot of the world building was contradictory or wouldn't have been as compelling if we'd been given answers. Sometimes its better for something to end strong than keep making sequels without a clear vision.
Resistance was my favourite game franchise with Killzone well at least until Killzone 3. It's sad seeing how forgotten the resistance games have been forgotten. The lore and stories was so great
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent the chimera remind me of the Covenant from Halo. Unstoppable, but not invincible. The problem Halo had was that games made the Covenant out to be a joke, whereas the lore made it clear how close humanity was to extinction. The chimera doesn’t suffer from this (at least in the games)
@@johnbourlier7883 every victory in Resistance was pretty much a Pyrric one. You can fight the Chimera and you can beat the Chimera but your definitly getting your shit kicked for each small victory against them.
I pray that you guys cover the war between Imperial Russia and the Chimera, the whole concept of them fortifying their borders to keep the Chimera locked in, the repeating radio broadcast, the disappearing villages and all the other messed up shit that went down before the first game even started.
The isolationism of the US in Resistance was born out of WWI when the US wanted to avoid becoming involved in European issues. This is similar to how the US first reacted when WWII started where even though Roosevelt saw Hitler as a threat, the American people didn’t feel they should get involved in what was just a “European war”. For Resistance, in addition to that isolationism, the Noah Grace administration misled the people by making them think what was going on in Europe was an influenza. Very few people outside the US government knew the Chimera even existed.
That used to be the dominant US foreign policy pre-WW2. To quote Herbert Hoover on what the US response is to Japan invading Manchuria in 1931: Who gives a hoot in the barrel who controls Manchuria?!?!
in 2034 the United Earth Government listed several parts of the Liberty Defense Perimeter as 'a site of Historical importance' this decision was met with large amount of debate, as many historians viewed it as a wasted effect, when compared to other defensive plans and offensive operations that occurred during the Dark Decade. for example the operation to close the portal over New York wasn't included nor the Combine British, Irish and French operation to 'Cleanse ' southern Britain and northern France wasn't included in the short list.
@@toddclawson3619 completely make up, I based it on what I remember for Resistance 3 Credits section (where a Map of the US been cleared of the Chimera is shown). the Gael-Anglo-Franco operation is based on the First Game (happens in the UK), one of the PSP Games (happens in France), and Radio Transmission (several are based from Derry/LondonDerry). I figure that other parts of the world would attempt to drive off the Chimera with them been weakened due to the events in New York.
@@lostShadowLord Fun. I remember a fanfic done in the style of wwz where the author was a journalist going around and interviewing people after the chimera war was over. It had a similar feel to what you wrote. It was before Resistance 3 came out though so it had a different ending.
I wonder how modern-day Earth would hold up against that since we have much more sophisticated weapon systems and nuclear weapons would we be able to hold them off. Or would it all end in nuclear Hellfire!
I keep thinking of the Armada that defends zero one for the matrix. Despite being a static defense that only activates when a threat is devoted they are still clearly mobile and can be moved else where if needed.
@@galaxysmp8163 unlikely, perty might be a bitter manchild but he hates the xenos WAY MORE than he hates Dorn. War of the Beast is one example where a group of iron warriors declared a cease fire with the black templars to join forces against the Orks.
I disagree with the statement "Fixed Defenses are a monument to the stupidity of Mankind" I would honestly say Fixed defenses are extremely useful, while not by themselves capable of stopping an attack, do provide enough of a speed bump and damage against an assaulting opponent that permit time and resources to counter attack the assaulting force. While a continuous defensive wall is impractical in most cases, the defense of strategic areas via fixed defenses coupled with localized independent unit to provide local and regional counter attacks is a highly effective strategy. As for the Liberty defense zone, if it was shrunk from it's initial plan, which the games seem to suggest. The strategists should have begun work on a defense in depth system, so that the breach of the "outer" defensive system does not mean the complete collapse of the entire defensive system. On top if that, resources permitting, compartmentalization of the entire defensive line would have been highly desirable. This method of having defensive compartments within the liberty zone would function akin to the compartmentaliztion of a warship, meaning that if one area was overrun by the Chimera would not have meant the entire zone be overrun, while also giving surviving generals in the Liberty zone the ability to properly judge and execute counter attacks by keeping all fighting within an overrun compartment, and "hopefully" when they fully retake the compartment they have a ready made defensive line in the previously overrun towers that can be refurbished and reequip, with the insight on the weak spots of the defensive line due to where they where broken prior.
I was thinking much the same thing, fixed defenses could be very effective, as long as they're operated properly, put in the right locations with plenty of redundancies, or, as you say, compartments. Whatever general said that was probably over-reacting to the failure of the Maginot line, but that failed because it was too easily bypassed west of the Franco-German border, not because of any inherent flaw in the very concept of fixed defenses.
What its implying in this context is that US instead of going on the defensive and waiting for the Chimera to come. Should have sent troops early on to contain the Chimera.
Yeah the General that said "Fixed fortifications are a monument to the st*pidity of mankind" doesn't realize that fixed defenses COULD have worked. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk once said something like "A defensive grid line doesn't exist, there is only a defensive grid area. That area is the entirety of this Country." This is also why Romans built a bunch of forts to defend their land instead of one big wall like the Chinese did. A wall mind you is like a chain, it only needs one link to break for the entire thing to fall apart and that's because when a wall gets overrun on one side, that's kinda all that's needed to overrun the entire wall. Instead if you have multiple bastions and fortresses concentrated on the entire area with a multitude of trenches and underground tunnels all over the place then the LDP could have worked because even if one bastion or all trenches are overrun, they still have many many Many more left to overrun and by that point, it's easy to say the Chimeras would probably be willing for a ceasefire.
When I was high school I wrote a short story that was set in the Resistance universe that basically predicted the LDP. Resistance was the only game out at the time. Mine though was a layered fortress that started in the ocean and worked back to the new capital of the US in Denver.
A fine idea which could work if it was inacted around the time the Chimera took half of Europe or the invasion Britain. If the US took the threat seriously they could complete it relatively quickly.
@@mr.raslyon6626 It took place during a time before we really knew how incompetent the Grace administration was at trying to suppress the chimera invasion. But like in my story The United States turned basically North America Into a fortress. The walls of the fortress expanded from Alaska down to the Panama Canal. It was also before we really understood how the chrimea removed which was explained more in Resistance 2. But my story followed a unit US troops Maine, near Wall 3 as the fought to defend the wall from a breach.
@@therabidsquid432nerf9 I never really drew them all out, but wall one was sea wall that was built 50 miles off the coast using icebergs as anchor points. Wall 2 was two miles off the coast inland and wall 3 started near the southern board of Maine in the northeast USA. Walls 2 and 3 supported each other while 5 was a stand alone And 6 and 7 supported each other. Wall 7 was the thickest wall and basically the boarders of Colorado. I wrote at 17 years old and if I even went back and reworked it I would draw out where the walls were and how they worked.
Me, a Michigander, seeing how far the perimeter stretches: "Damn, y'all really just abandoned us. You do realize that the Great Lakes is one of the largest sources of freshwater, right? And that you basically abandoned that to the Chimera, right? Right?
@@caad5258 Also Sirens are extremely deadly, the Chimera were able to divert the Thames to let Sirens kill off hundreds of Human troops once already, they could do it again.
Eveyone loves to take a crap on fixed fortifications but the truth is they are extremely effective, even when breached they often delayed invasions by years or more.
I’d like a return to this series. Maybe we’re the son of Joseph Capelli, we inherited a few Chimeran genes from him, so we can use their bacterial kits and things. Resistance 3 set up an atmosphere I personally couldn’t get enough of. The way the Chimera had lost by winning just gave me the chills. They’d always represented fascism, and them turning on each other while humanity endured in pockets of good and bad people, eventually destroying their supposed achievements due to the Chimera’s autophagia… god I want to see more of that.
Wait, Chimera was allegory for fascism? I thought they were symbol of any ill-judged threat without specifics, that people can't defeat because of their ignorance and actions made too little too late. Like Chimera become big surprise for Europe because Russians thought they could deal with it by themself and didn't even bother to inform the world while Americans didn't want even to participate at first because they thought Chimera would not spread on Western hemisphere.
Among all the major FPS and TPS franchises that I ranted about undermined by trilogy format(Halo 3, Mass Effect 3, Gears of War 3, Killzone 3, Dead Space 3 and so on) I kind of forgot that Resistance also was left hanging:( To specify, most devs build up to massive conflict for two games, first one is introduction to setting, second one sets the stakes. But then they leave themselves with only a single game to show the peak of said conflict(and sometimes even its breakout) and conclude it all. Within single game! Usually the series outgrows that trilogy expectation and thus the developers have to return the same villain that they've just wiped out with coloured energy wave plot gun that kills all enemies everywhere(Halo, Crucible, Lightmass Machine, Helghast Bomb, Precursor Marker Weapon and so on). And I know that Halo 2 and 3 were planned as one game at first. I still thing that Halo 3 should have been split into trilogy of its own. Mass Effect should have ended Shepherd saga and just switch to new protagonist for Reaper War arc. It's hard to come with alternative for Gears. Killzone should have ended about 20 minutes earlier with Helghan general still surviving and the corporate executive escaping with a small fleet in unknown direction.
Yeah. This bizarre obsessive need to make everything a trilogy during that time period was pretty weird. Stories that would have been better fit for less or more movies/games were either dragged out or compressed to make it fit a trilogy. It wasn't just shooter games that had this happen. Xenosaga also was turned into a trilogy after initially being planned for six games. The story took a lot of cuts and other issues and pretty obviously suffered for it.
I love resistance series. Most people dismiss it as just another fps but Insomniac created a very interesting, bleak and compelling lore behind the game.
I would have liked it more if the LDP had held out longer, actually proved a major deterrent to the Chimaera, and we got to see some smart stuff, like espionage and sabotage, from their forces, or at least a massive dedication of force that might weaken them elsewhere, rather than just the effortless ease with which they annihilated it.
It was inevitable that the LDP would be breached, it wasn't a question of if, it was a question of when. Another example is the Red Curtain that was built along the entire border on the Russian Empire and Europe. However if you're still interested in the Resistance franchise, there is actually a very well written fanfiction called Resistance : Fall of Man An Oral History. There is a chapter where the United European Defense (Canon Organization) have built a defensive line that made the Maginot Line look like a sand castle called the Warsaw Line (fan made defensive line).
@@blazingfire_0712 True, forgot that the guns were pointed toward Europe leaving their backs wide open. Then again this shows the flaw in fixed fortification, you can only train fixed guns in a limited firing arc.
What I would have liked to see was the Perimeter in action. An actual battle where we take part, maybe getting to watch it fall, instead of just that one segment where we see a compromised tower and the adjacent town.
The Chimera never won effortlessly, from the start to the end of the war they changed doctrine MASSIVELY, phasing out whole strains and trying new tactics.
I'd argue that static defenses were warranted here. The goal was to hold a perimeter against sustained attacks while starving the Chimeras of fresh bodies. Could it have been done better, sooner, and in layers? yes, but using fixed defenses to anchor the border was absolutely called for here.
This franchise doesn't get enough love. Thanks for this addition. Did you make up that stuff about the chemical weapons? It makes sense, and I'm not sure whether it's cooler if it's canon or something you added because it made sense in the lore.
Why on earth would you not move the line down 40 miles to encompass Atlanta?? A major American metro area?? You could even incorporate the city into the perimeter wall... some sort of city-bastion within the defensive wall.. 40k esque
It's a weird quirk of territory that the trailing southwestern corner of Virginia goes just barely far enough west to brush up against the eastern edge of the Perimeter, while the entirety of West Virginia is further east.
The chimera remind me of a mod for stellaris I think it's the hiveminds expanded mod. You can add a civic that allows you to repurpose the enemies pops into your own through purging. It is stupidly overpowered as you can literally go in and exterminate your enemy while growing your numbers. Hmmmm new playthrough time
I mean it was the best chance they had. Chimera need a constant supply of freshly converted humans to maintain their numbers, a lot of the intel in Fall of Man, specifically the Gray Jacks, suggest that most Chimera, because of their high metabolism rapidly degrade, in a year or two at most. So if the US managed to stalemate the Chimera behind the Perimeter the Chimera, or at least the weaker strains, would eventually die off. A lot of the plan was wishful thinking but it did take the full might of the Chimera bringing everything they had to break the Liberty Defense Perimeter and at this late stage there weren't really whole lot of other options. Maybe if Noah Grace had used his, YEARS of advanced warning about the Chimera things would have been better, since the intel implies that FDR knew about the Chimera in the 1930s before Grace was elected in 1940.
In the Resistance novel, it's mentioned that Great Britain had wanted to try for an offensive in Europe after the events of Resistance 1, well the Chimera were vulnerable, but the Grace administration hadn't wanted to "waste" the troops for an endeavour that didn't push American interests.
@@Shoxic666 Yes, but those are feral Chimera that are just as hostile to the hive mind, and their pure Chimeran masters, as they are to humans. Moreover, that was not known at the time and those feral breeds lack any of the Chimera's advanced technology and could have even helped take some of the pressure off of humanity.
@@michaelthayer5351,The ferals reproduction on their own wasn't necessarily unique to them, the others could have evolved it too. The Pure Chinera probably elected to stop making new soldiers as they didn't think they needed any. Plus crawlers and conversion centres had been largely phased out by now and spinners went feral, so they lack even a method of reproduction by 3.
Whoever wrote this game layout was seriously underqualified. 90 mm sounds like a lot until you realize that a 50 caliber round and a 30 mm round are almost the same size. 90 mm is only about a 3.5 in Shell which is nowhere near what you would use on a defensive emplacement like they describe. For comparison Coast guard vessels will normally be equipped with this size of weapon on their smallest vessels. Standard US Navy weapons will be 5 in which is closer to 130 mm , and the sort of weapon that they are showing in the illustration would be a 9-in naval gun, or in excess of 200 mm. The idea that the central us could not provide sufficient food for the US population is also seriously an error, but unless you happen to work in agriculture you wouldn't know that.
I knew I'd played so much of the resistance games that all I saw was the start of the title and new it was Resistance 2. Such a good game, as was Fall of Man. 3 was okay but really didn't have the ending I was hoping for. I'd love if insomniac worked out a 4th or a reboot.
The map reminds me of the one from Gotham were the gcpd was keeping track of the criminal elements in different territory in the city after the bridges were bombed and the citizens were cut off from the main land without outside help
Would love to see an investigation into the nations of Foxhole. An Atlas video on the great bulwark or a Dossier on Callahan or the Marrows would be awesome.
I enjoyed this series and thought the lore was fascinating, but the United States somehow keeping its citizens in the dark about the chimera always bothered me. It makes sense that Russia was able to keep them hidden as the chimera were only in their country at that point and I can see them doing something stupid like trying to fight it by themselves without any assistance. I also understand and even think it works that the U.S. tried to bury its head in the sand and hope the chimera would just stay in Europe as the U.S. was extremely isolationist before WW2, but what was even the point of lying and saying that it was some sort of plague that was decimating Europe instead of the chimera? Even if no forms of communications or survivors managed to make their way to the U.S. and alert everyone of what was really happening and the U.S. was able to completely block off all contact from the outside world initially, there is no way that would last. People would be wanting to know what the heck is going on and I doubt they would be fine with such extreme measures for long. Even a really dangerous plague wouldn't justify such restrictions as its not like such a thing could transmit over telegrams, radio, or phones. The U.S. would have had to turn into a totalitarian government to implement such control and there is nothing in the lore that says they magically did so at some point.
Am I the only one who notices that the math for those gun emplacements doesn't add up? The towers are each MUCH wider than 50 feet, and building 38,000 steel skeleton towers over a thousand feet tall, and sturdy enough to support multiple automatic naval caliber guns in an insane manufacturing accomplishment. By comparison, WW2 mobilization cranked out 50,000 Sherman tanks and 3,000 liberty ships, both of which require a fraction of the amount of steel alone. My guess is somebody got their napkin math wrong when they wrote the document for the game. More likely, the towers would be spaced so each cluster could support the tower cluster to its left and right. So you're probably looking at between 300 and 500 towers if the space puts each tower within the firing of its neighboring strongpoints.
I presume this will be followed shortly by an analysis of the factions here on some level, as you've done a few times. I can tell you that geographically, this is ludicrous, and it's even worse militarily. The American advantage on defense has always been its ability to do so in depth, and with mobility. Giving up most of the land (especially most of the DEFENSIBLE land in the mountains and forests) and pouring your hopes into static defenses is insanity. I hope you tear this apart.
To be fair, As pointed out, the defense perimeter was more out of desperation than anything else. They knew they wouldn't be able to defend most of the United States and were correct in that assessment when the majority of its military was destroyed in the initial invasion and the remnants were basically facing off against an entire world controlled by the chimera. Trying to fight like you suggested probably wouldn't have worked out any better. The game itself does agree with you though that it wasn't a reliable defense. Pretty much all static defenses in Europe were easily bypassed or overwhelmed by the Chimera and the Liberty Defense Perimeter only lasted a few weeks before it was breached. That was kind of the point though. The United States never moved on from its isolationist ideology due to the lack of WW2 and as a result, tried to bury its head in the sand and hope it would be left alone rather than trying to fight the Chimera in Europe when it and the rest of the world might have had the chance to win.
Always wondered how it worked out with putting it in the middle of the United States. I'd think they would choose a coast since it has many more resources and people
Since the invasion fleets were showing up from across the oceans, it would have meant the perimeter would have to bear the full weight of the initial attacks, which when adding faster arrivals for chimeran reinforcements from asia or europe would have meant an early breach would be almost guaranteed
Fixed fortifications are moronic if you do NOT have an industry and civilian population under attack or to protect/ if they are mobile, if your main base is completely safe. Otherwise you NEED to play defensively. Static emplacements are commonly NEVER meant to be an effective defense line. They are meant to buy time to regroup and come up with a solution to the current situation. In resistance, the Liberty Defense Perimeter was ok. The problem was that it was used as a line of defense instead of stalling. It was also a single line, not layered. It would have been better to simply break up all necessary industrial and military elements for raiding ops and portability(make soldiers and civilians self-sufficient). I mean really, all of Europe, Asia and Africa fall and the Liberty wall was thought to hold the Chimera back and initiate a stalemate? Against billions of bodies in humans alone? Great breakdown as with every other video.
Whoever designed that perimeter sure did NOT do their homework! Outside the "Enemy" menace, everything presented does not make sense (like most but not all politicians both in and out of uniform).
It has always infuriated me that in a downfall scenario is that the ones who would get us into the mess (politicians) are the ones who get prioritized and be the ones who will survive. Only to re- infect the new world.
Looking at the map, I'm not seeing the logic behind where the perimeter was built. It seems like they made more work for themselves than necessary while not protecting anything specific.
“Liberty Defense Perimeter” has got to be the most American name ever.
up there with we'll poison everyone under the guise of relief
@Darth Revan as cool as that would be, he might be knocked down quickly given how big he is and how slow he walks.
It could have been even more american if it was armed with the "freedom deathray" or something. XD
@@nielsmichiels1939 The freedomizer.
The liberty freedom bigmack with a side of fries and a Mountain Dew defense perimeter.
You have to remember WWII never happened in this universe, meaning their weapon technology and fighting doctrines were still styled after WWI. Which as we know, saw the deadly effectiveness of static defense positions.
Also the geopolitical in this universe is heavily divided, the whole idea of the survival of all mankind is still alien concept. The Chimera could have been contained and exterminated much earlier if the Russia and the US did not adopt the isolationist policy. The US would not fall if FDR was in charge since he would send troops to Europe take down the Chimera as soon as possible
And yet assault rifles are a thing
@@tomxaider2058 It's because of Noah Grace that America has fallen
@@DerREALpatrichwe ww1 had submachine guns so I mean it’s not hard to think they could have assault rifles in the 1940s
@@DerREALpatrich The M5A2 Carbine- the weapon you are referring to was actually developed rather late in last ditch effort of solidifiying the United States Armed Forces in case of an Chimera attack since the government knew rather early about what was happening in Europe.
Resistance lore is so fascinating. I hope they reboot or do a sequel at some point.
it’s almost ten years since any Resistance related content was released. My hope is grim.
Along with the very few gamers who still remember this series yet alone those who actually played these games during their prime are even rarer.
& it’s sad since Resistance has so much future potential.
That would be awesome wouldn't it. They could do something like Horizon Zero Dawn that would be cool.
@@theafflictionvhs17 i remember the resistance 2 coop with 16 players, it was soooo beautiful
They should remaster the trilogy and fix some of the problems or a reboot would be awesome maybe set the timeline in the 20s or 30s
@@theafflictionvhs17 Sadly, I agree with you.
Resistance 2 had some great world building with its' Intel and viral marketing... and it's such a shame that almost none of it mattered when Resistance 3 came out.
@Christopher Newman agreed but they wrote themselves into a Corner so having the chimera change to suite a different ending was all they could do
Resistance 2 was a good game but the weakest of the series. Resistance 3 was fantastic as it was about what was left of humanity trying to survive in a war it had lost. Remember not all stories have to have the happy ending to make them a amazing story and if something like Resistance did happen in real life then we would probably loose.
imo I think Resistance 3 gave a new perspective on the game. Like from the previous game where a soldier joined with a special forces to defeat the Chimeras, and in the third game, a traitor in the forces now has to contend to his old duty of saving the world by himself as an atonement for his betrayal.
Resistance 3 was a great game in terms of gameplay, and the story was pretty decent. A shame it disregarded or forgot so much of what came before :/
Hope it gets remade by actual fans sometime.
@Christopher Newman the first one and the second were the best ones but the second one was just amazing stunning building on the previous lore
The Chimera is up there with the Faro Plague for "Apocalyptic scenarios in which I will off myself in the opening hours".
The faro plague is one of the most depressing things I have ever had the pleasure of discovering. My jaw hit the floor when I realized what happened...
Whenever I see anything about resistance I instantly click, it's one of the best franchises ever and I wish for it to come back.
Honestly, after seeing the modern game industry, I’m kinda glad the series died gracefully and ended on a high note.
@@nobodyherepal3292 idk, they've totally cocked up some reboots, but if they just left the old games alone and went for a whole new story about for example, the chimeras advance through Europe, or the first days of the American war, and just left the hale/capelli arc alone it could be quite good.
Just a trilogy remaster would be better than not having them available.
For a killer app made just to sell consoles, it sure as hell knows how to make an atmosphere. Every game pushes mankind back further until all that remains are a few desperate survivors living in isolated communities. Like goddamn, I haven’t seen a war setting so oppressively hopeless since Gears of War.
@@nobodyherepal3292 tbh yeah. Better we never have another Silent Hill game than some cheap trash farmed out to cowboys who think it begins and ends with "ooh Pyramid Head, he's scary, let's toss him in there".
And, better we never have another Resistance game than one flooded with MTXs and season passes and this and that.
Counter point. Although it didn’t save the United States as a country, it might have still saved mankind. The Chimeran fleet was devastated, which allowed Nathan Hale to destroy the remainder with a single crude atomic weapon.
If the fleet had been intact by the time of Resistance 3 then the Chimeran death squads would been completely unstoppable, and there’s no way Joseph Capell would have succeeded in his mission to destroy the wormhole tower in New York.
Personally, I think the attack on the Liberty Defence Perimeter is a case of winning the battle but losing the war. Thoughts?
I agree. The aliens suffered heavy casualties (though I get the idea the Chimera don't care how many common drones die), and that would have hindered them.
he doesn't know the fate of Asia
I think the destruction of the chimerian fleet only really delayed the end. By the end of Resistance 2, humanity's population had been reduced to 10% and the chimeria's last real threat SRPA and the United States armed forces was defeated. So I mean even if the fleet had or hadn't been destroyed, it wouldn't have mattered.
I disagree. The Chimera are pretty monofocused and most likely the entire fleet would still have concentrated over the gulf of Mexico densely enough to be taken out.
Perfectly written. And also, with only 10% of humanity being left, the chimera were unable to create the vast amount of hybrids and other Chimeran types that they could before. Humanity being almost destroyed caused the chimera to struggle with creating new soldiers
Resistance is imo the best depiction of the War of the Worlds scenario. The "aliens" are actually infected people (among other living things) from a near incurable virus; we never get to fight the actual "pure" Chimera so who knows how powerful they really are. Setting the game in a retro 1950s timeline creates a larger tech gap between humans and the aliens. Victories against the Chimera are only minor setbacks (ex: abandon angel command structure; conversion centers to spinners; building spaceships & drones). With most of humanity wiped out the survivors had to abandon "Resistance" and simply try to survive on a Earth controlled by the Chimera.
Most games/movies that depict a war against aliens always showcase humanity having a stronger success when fighting back. Resistance on the other hand creates a situation in which the humanity's fight in utterly pointless.
yeah that like half life you are never shown how powerful the combine is just that they took Earth in 7 days and what you have a hard time in Half life 2 is just the reserve that they put into the planet
Kinda make the story pointless too. Everyone is screwed anyway why bother even telling a story about it.
@@jakobinobles3263 Yeah obviously I know that, I'm talking about personal opinion..
If you love another Alien Invasion during World War 2, Trying reading or listening to the audio books of Worldwar: In the Balance series by Harry Turtledove.
The Aliens invade Earth during 1942 and forces the Allies and the Axis to hold off their hostilities and face their new powerful enemies, while the Aliens are force to adapt to new political issues and fighting a primitive, but industrialized species. 4 books overall.
@@aoki6332 Not even reserves, they're basically a locally indoctrinated militia. The Combine has nearly zero interest in humanity beyond its use as raw material. And even that non-zero percentage has more to do with the G-Man and our portal tech accidentally doing something there's cannot.
Resistance is a fascinating setting, because it's post-apocalyptic but understands this doesn't necessarily have to mean "just dudes in biker gear running around innawoods with guns".
Although it is true that postapocalyptic settings are usually inspired by Mad Max, the Resistance setting is barely postapocalyptic to begin with, you could call it "apocalyptic", but the chimeras threaten to completely erradicate humanity unlike more focused postapocaliptic settings like nuclear holocausts or zombie pandemics that simply make life more difficult for the survivors
@@Mrlighthouse1000 Yes I agree, good point. I guess scenarios such as the one in Resistance are so uncommon that it's somewhat of a perception gap where it fits regarding post-apocalyptical vs. just apocalyptical (the latter also being a rare genre). For example, something like Neon Genesis Evangelion is purely apocalyptical, because humanity still retains most of its warfighting and economical capacity (bear with me, in-universe they actually DID have an "apocalypse" that killed like half of the world, but they recovered and the setting is NOT post-apocalyptical. They have the tech and industry to build giant robots).
In Resistance, meanwhile, humanity is both *already* degraded, and is now being even _further_ degraded. Also, humanity has already ceded a lot of territory to the invaders (Eurasia), which is unlike the case with traditional apocalyptic fiction like Eva. So, definitely, it's a hybrid scenario. If humanity weren't already degraded significantly (like in a post-apocalypse), the setup would just be way less interesting IMO.
As said, such "humanity being pushed back, not defeated" stories are just way too rare, full stop. Another example would be Muv-Luv Alternative, where humanity (also) has given up most of mainland Eurasia to the invaders, and is currently fighting in Japan and Kamchatka.
Resistance had such a deep lore.
too bad the series was short-lived
but I suppose it's better than being milked dry and infected with worthless political garbage like so many great franchises these days
@@nicktechnubyte1184 the wokes would have welcomed them as the ultimate form of "diversity". 🤣
@@EarthForces Ah, yes, the usual anti-diversity caterwauling.
@@evanhunt1863 I am pro-diversity, pro-diversity in political opinion and freedom to express it. The chimera and their similar ilk IRL on the other hand... 😏
And calling the wokeist for what they are isn't "hate". Just a reminder.
@@EarthForces "Diversity in political opinion." That's funny coming from a guy who just expressed dislike at the idea of others having differing opinions.
Always nice to see Resistance given love.
The borders of this to anyone with even a passing understanding of US geography, distribution of industries, and resources, is laughable.
Yeah I was just thinking "how the fuck do you even defend that zone" lol
"We pulled back into the land that was so bad we made Native Americans live there." GENIUS.
@@RobtheStampede not to mention that you are voluntarily letting yourself get surrounded on 4 sides.
Surely it's better to retreat into some actually defensible territory
Either you run for the Rockies or you hunker down in the Rust Belt, but don’t stay in swamptopia where there’s nothing
I never really cared for the later Resistance games, but I still hold out hope that Fall Of Man will someday get a remaster. That was honestly one of the best shooter games I ever played as a kid, and a great example of quality worldbuilding.
The Chimera really said “Fuck New England, in particular” I don’t know if I should be flattered or insulted
It's sad that the Resistance series have been discontinued. Some of its lore have never fully explained, and there's lots of chances to create new stories and further explore the Resistance universe. This series could have been compete against Halo.
On the other hand, I feel like the series was allowed to go out on a strong note and a lot of the world building was contradictory or wouldn't have been as compelling if we'd been given answers.
Sometimes its better for something to end strong than keep making sequels without a clear vision.
I hope resistance comes back, love the stormy and setting
Resistance was my favourite game franchise with Killzone well at least until Killzone 3. It's sad seeing how forgotten the resistance games have been forgotten. The lore and stories was so great
Happy you liked my poster. Made one for United European Defense as well if you ever plan on doing a future Resistance video.
Definitely needs a remake/soft reboot for all systems. Its time everyone gets a chance to experience the chimera
Most modern players wouldnt be able to stomach a game where the bad guys pretty much win.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent that’s kind of the point the chimera are depicted as a unstoppable but not unbeatable enemy
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent the chimera remind me of the Covenant from Halo. Unstoppable, but not invincible. The problem Halo had was that games made the Covenant out to be a joke, whereas the lore made it clear how close humanity was to extinction. The chimera doesn’t suffer from this (at least in the games)
@@johnbourlier7883 every victory in Resistance was pretty much a Pyrric one. You can fight the Chimera and you can beat the Chimera but your definitly getting your shit kicked for each small victory against them.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent elden ring is pretty successful.
Oh thank the maker, so happy you all are hopping on work of Resistance videos. Keep up the tremendous work folks!
This was one of my favourite game series of all time. It was so underrated too, I've never met anyone who knows about it or played it.
I pray that you guys cover the war between Imperial Russia and the Chimera, the whole concept of them fortifying their borders to keep the Chimera locked in, the repeating radio broadcast, the disappearing villages and all the other messed up shit that went down before the first game even started.
I'm quite confused why the U.S decided to go isolationist during A DAMN ALIEN INVASION!
ya, President Noah Grace in lore was an absolute Idiot. I’m glad Hale killed him in “Gathering Storm”.
@@leodouskyron5671 That or American politics in high gear.
The isolationism of the US in Resistance was born out of WWI when the US wanted to avoid becoming involved in European issues.
This is similar to how the US first reacted when WWII started where even though Roosevelt saw Hitler as a threat, the American people didn’t feel they should get involved in what was just a “European war”.
For Resistance, in addition to that isolationism, the Noah Grace administration misled the people by making them think what was going on in Europe was an influenza. Very few people outside the US government knew the Chimera even existed.
Dynamic potatoes right about this
That used to be the dominant US foreign policy pre-WW2. To quote Herbert Hoover on what the US response is to Japan invading Manchuria in 1931:
Who gives a hoot in the barrel who controls Manchuria?!?!
in 2034
the United Earth Government listed several parts of the Liberty Defense Perimeter as 'a site of Historical importance'
this decision was met with large amount of debate, as many historians viewed it as a wasted effect, when compared to other defensive plans and offensive operations that occurred during the Dark Decade. for example the operation to close the portal over New York wasn't included nor the Combine British, Irish and French operation to 'Cleanse ' southern Britain and northern France wasn't included in the short list.
This is pretty cool. Was it just something you came up with or actual canon lore?
@@toddclawson3619 completely make up, I based it on what I remember for Resistance 3 Credits section (where a Map of the US been cleared of the Chimera is shown).
the Gael-Anglo-Franco operation is based on the First Game (happens in the UK), one of the PSP Games (happens in France), and Radio Transmission (several are based from Derry/LondonDerry).
I figure that other parts of the world would attempt to drive off the Chimera with them been weakened due to the events in New York.
@@lostShadowLord Fun. I remember a fanfic done in the style of wwz where the author was a journalist going around and interviewing people after the chimera war was over. It had a similar feel to what you wrote. It was before Resistance 3 came out though so it had a different ending.
@@toddclawson3619a year late ik, but whats the fanfic called, im kinda curious.
We need at the very least need a remastered trilogy. A remake would be ok too.
Yass! I'd spend money on that!
Same here I love this franchise. In truth there a lot of old ps2,3 and Xbox games that need to be remastered
I mean I can see it selling well enough. It was one of the big titles for the ps3.
@@TicTacPilgrim well i dont see good things coming from a remaster or a remake either , new story would be alot better in the 1950s
I always enjoy the soundtrack you guys use for these kinda lore videos. Tyranids,zombies, Chimeras...love it. Fits the atmosphere.
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"Only then will you know what it means to truly suffer."
I wonder how modern-day Earth would hold up against that since we have much more sophisticated weapon systems and nuclear weapons would we be able to hold them off. Or would it all end in nuclear Hellfire!
I keep thinking of the Armada that defends zero one for the matrix. Despite being a static defense that only activates when a threat is devoted they are still clearly mobile and can be moved else where if needed.
Good work Templin! Close to 500k
it makes me feel old knowing the resistance games came out when I just started highschool.
I do hope y'all cover more of this universe.
If Rogal Dorn had been in charge of it the defense probably would have worked
Ehh but then Perty would join the chimera just for spite. Catch 22
@@galaxysmp8163 unlikely, perty might be a bitter manchild but he hates the xenos WAY MORE than he hates Dorn. War of the Beast is one example where a group of iron warriors declared a cease fire with the black templars to join forces against the Orks.
I disagree with the statement "Fixed Defenses are a monument to the stupidity of Mankind" I would honestly say Fixed defenses are extremely useful, while not by themselves capable of stopping an attack, do provide enough of a speed bump and damage against an assaulting opponent that permit time and resources to counter attack the assaulting force. While a continuous defensive wall is impractical in most cases, the defense of strategic areas via fixed defenses coupled with localized independent unit to provide local and regional counter attacks is a highly effective strategy.
As for the Liberty defense zone, if it was shrunk from it's initial plan, which the games seem to suggest. The strategists should have begun work on a defense in depth system, so that the breach of the "outer" defensive system does not mean the complete collapse of the entire defensive system. On top if that, resources permitting, compartmentalization of the entire defensive line would have been highly desirable. This method of having defensive compartments within the liberty zone would function akin to the compartmentaliztion of a warship, meaning that if one area was overrun by the Chimera would not have meant the entire zone be overrun, while also giving surviving generals in the Liberty zone the ability to properly judge and execute counter attacks by keeping all fighting within an overrun compartment, and "hopefully" when they fully retake the compartment they have a ready made defensive line in the previously overrun towers that can be refurbished and reequip, with the insight on the weak spots of the defensive line due to where they where broken prior.
I was thinking much the same thing, fixed defenses could be very effective, as long as they're operated properly, put in the right locations with plenty of redundancies, or, as you say, compartments. Whatever general said that was probably over-reacting to the failure of the Maginot line, but that failed because it was too easily bypassed west of the Franco-German border, not because of any inherent flaw in the very concept of fixed defenses.
@@jackstrawful If that general's statement was correct, soldiers wouldn't be trained to fight in trenches.
What its implying in this context is that US instead of going on the defensive and waiting for the Chimera to come. Should have sent troops early on to contain the Chimera.
@alvin4100 No, it is that you use the defensive perimeter to hold an enemy in place, or slow them down, so that you can organize a counterattack.
Yeah the General that said "Fixed fortifications are a monument to the st*pidity of mankind" doesn't realize that fixed defenses COULD have worked.
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk once said something like "A defensive grid line doesn't exist, there is only a defensive grid area. That area is the entirety of this Country."
This is also why Romans built a bunch of forts to defend their land instead of one big wall like the Chinese did.
A wall mind you is like a chain, it only needs one link to break for the entire thing to fall apart and that's because when a wall gets overrun on one side, that's kinda all that's needed to overrun the entire wall.
Instead if you have multiple bastions and fortresses concentrated on the entire area with a multitude of trenches and underground tunnels all over the place then the LDP could have worked because even if one bastion or all trenches are overrun, they still have many many Many more left to overrun and by that point, it's easy to say the Chimeras would probably be willing for a ceasefire.
When I was high school I wrote a short story that was set in the Resistance universe that basically predicted the LDP. Resistance was the only game out at the time.
Mine though was a layered fortress that started in the ocean and worked back to the new capital of the US in Denver.
A fine idea which could work if it was inacted around the time the Chimera took half of Europe or the invasion Britain. If the US took the threat seriously they could complete it relatively quickly.
Damn, that sounds cool
@@mr.raslyon6626 It took place during a time before we really knew how incompetent the Grace administration was at trying to suppress the chimera invasion.
But like in my story The United States turned basically North America Into a fortress. The walls of the fortress expanded from Alaska down to the Panama Canal. It was also before we really understood how the chrimea removed which was explained more in Resistance 2.
But my story followed a unit US troops Maine, near Wall 3 as the fought to defend the wall from a breach.
@@Phox532 Where were the defenses located?
@@therabidsquid432nerf9 I never really drew them all out, but wall one was sea wall that was built 50 miles off the coast using icebergs as anchor points.
Wall 2 was two miles off the coast inland and wall 3 started near the southern board of Maine in the northeast USA.
Walls 2 and 3 supported each other while 5 was a stand alone And 6 and 7 supported each other.
Wall 7 was the thickest wall and basically the boarders of Colorado.
I wrote at 17 years old and if I even went back and reworked it I would draw out where the walls were and how they worked.
Me, a Michigander, seeing how far the perimeter stretches:
"Damn, y'all really just abandoned us. You do realize that the Great Lakes is one of the largest sources of freshwater, right? And that you basically abandoned that to the Chimera, right? Right?
you dont need to keep hydrated and irrigate too much fields when the 96% of your population is dead.
Sadly the Chimera can just fly over the lakes. Makes them hard to defend...
@@caad5258 Also Sirens are extremely deadly, the Chimera were able to divert the Thames to let Sirens kill off hundreds of Human troops once already, they could do it again.
Me in Georgia (the state): it's fine aliens don't attack us in these alien media and movies
Eveyone loves to take a crap on fixed fortifications but the truth is they are extremely effective, even when breached they often delayed invasions by years or more.
I’d like a return to this series. Maybe we’re the son of Joseph Capelli, we inherited a few Chimeran genes from him, so we can use their bacterial kits and things. Resistance 3 set up an atmosphere I personally couldn’t get enough of. The way the Chimera had lost by winning just gave me the chills. They’d always represented fascism, and them turning on each other while humanity endured in pockets of good and bad people, eventually destroying their supposed achievements due to the Chimera’s autophagia… god I want to see more of that.
Don't even need chimera genes, people who take the hale vaccine can use bac kits just fine
Wait, Chimera was allegory for fascism? I thought they were symbol of any ill-judged threat without specifics, that people can't defeat because of their ignorance and actions made too little too late. Like Chimera become big surprise for Europe because Russians thought they could deal with it by themself and didn't even bother to inform the world while Americans didn't want even to participate at first because they thought Chimera would not spread on Western hemisphere.
Yes please. Love this idea. Not sure about how they always represented facism though, where'd you get that from?
I'd like to see a Resistance sequel where it's like a hundred years later and were getting ready to go into space.
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“Ohio will be eliminated”
- Chimera. Probably
Among all the major FPS and TPS franchises that I ranted about undermined by trilogy format(Halo 3, Mass Effect 3, Gears of War 3, Killzone 3, Dead Space 3 and so on) I kind of forgot that Resistance also was left hanging:(
To specify, most devs build up to massive conflict for two games, first one is introduction to setting, second one sets the stakes. But then they leave themselves with only a single game to show the peak of said conflict(and sometimes even its breakout) and conclude it all. Within single game! Usually the series outgrows that trilogy expectation and thus the developers have to return the same villain that they've just wiped out with coloured energy wave plot gun that kills all enemies everywhere(Halo, Crucible, Lightmass Machine, Helghast Bomb, Precursor Marker Weapon and so on).
And I know that Halo 2 and 3 were planned as one game at first. I still thing that Halo 3 should have been split into trilogy of its own. Mass Effect should have ended Shepherd saga and just switch to new protagonist for Reaper War arc. It's hard to come with alternative for Gears. Killzone should have ended about 20 minutes earlier with Helghan general still surviving and the corporate executive escaping with a small fleet in unknown direction.
Yeah. This bizarre obsessive need to make everything a trilogy during that time period was pretty weird. Stories that would have been better fit for less or more movies/games were either dragged out or compressed to make it fit a trilogy. It wasn't just shooter games that had this happen. Xenosaga also was turned into a trilogy after initially being planned for six games. The story took a lot of cuts and other issues and pretty obviously suffered for it.
I'm very glad this channel still makes videos about Resistance... one of the best and most immersive stories I've ever delved into
I absolutely loved the lore and story stuff with this series. Dead space as well. Phenomenal. Great video.
I love resistance series. Most people dismiss it as just another fps but Insomniac created a very interesting, bleak and compelling lore behind the game.
A cautionary tale about what the world would be like if America didn't finally join WW2.. love it
I would have liked it more if the LDP had held out longer, actually proved a major deterrent to the Chimaera, and we got to see some smart stuff, like espionage and sabotage, from their forces, or at least a massive dedication of force that might weaken them elsewhere, rather than just the effortless ease with which they annihilated it.
It was inevitable that the LDP would be breached, it wasn't a question of if, it was a question of when. Another example is the Red Curtain that was built along the entire border on the Russian Empire and Europe.
However if you're still interested in the Resistance franchise, there is actually a very well written fanfiction called Resistance : Fall of Man An Oral History. There is a chapter where the United European Defense (Canon Organization) have built a defensive line that made the Maginot Line look like a sand castle called the Warsaw Line (fan made defensive line).
@@Luis-be9mi The Red Curtain wasn't built with the chimeras in mind, so it fell quickly when they started moving out of Russia.
@@blazingfire_0712 True, forgot that the guns were pointed toward Europe leaving their backs wide open. Then again this shows the flaw in fixed fortification, you can only train fixed guns in a limited firing arc.
What I would have liked to see was the Perimeter in action. An actual battle where we take part, maybe getting to watch it fall, instead of just that one segment where we see a compromised tower and the adjacent town.
The Chimera never won effortlessly, from the start to the end of the war they changed doctrine MASSIVELY, phasing out whole strains and trying new tactics.
Resistance fall of man
Resistance 2
Resistance 3
Need remastered game in PS4 and PS5
The game is legendary
60 percent of forces gone in the first 72 hours. That's not a battle, that's a slaughter. Talk about gettin your shit pushed in.
*flashback to the Half-Life Seven Hour War*
I'd argue that static defenses were warranted here. The goal was to hold a perimeter against sustained attacks while starving the Chimeras of fresh bodies. Could it have been done better, sooner, and in layers? yes, but using fixed defenses to anchor the border was absolutely called for here.
This franchise doesn't get enough love. Thanks for this addition. Did you make up that stuff about the chemical weapons? It makes sense, and I'm not sure whether it's cooler if it's canon or something you added because it made sense in the lore.
Who needs a liberty defence perimeter when you can just have a Baton Rouge protection camp?
We need a collection of all the games for modern systems.
Huh. Remembered the Patton quote in my head while watching this. Didn't expect them to use it. Nice.
Such a kickass game series and lore. Wish they would reboot the series. It has a insane amount of potential.
I love alternate history scenarios and it’s a shame that Resistance went the direction it did
90mm main guns? Seems very small for its purpose
I also thought it was something very strange, they may even have tanks with more powerful weapons than those used by these towers.
It's such a shame what happened to this game series, I really loved the setting, lore and stories that came from it.
Why on earth would you not move the line down 40 miles to encompass Atlanta?? A major American metro area?? You could even incorporate the city into the perimeter wall... some sort of city-bastion within the defensive wall.. 40k esque
This is one trilogy I wouldn't mind a remake on ps5 or pc.
It's a weird quirk of territory that the trailing southwestern corner of Virginia goes just barely far enough west to brush up against the eastern edge of the Perimeter, while the entirety of West Virginia is further east.
The chimera remind me of a mod for stellaris I think it's the hiveminds expanded mod. You can add a civic that allows you to repurpose the enemies pops into your own through purging. It is stupidly overpowered as you can literally go in and exterminate your enemy while growing your numbers. Hmmmm new playthrough time
Sounds very similar to a devouring swarm necrophage playstyle.
@@GenericProtagonist7 without the hit to growth for your primary species
Those anti-air defense are cool and all until those tunneler machines from the first game start burrowing under your defenses.
Love you guys' video on Resistance. That world needs more attention in the media. Its so good.
We need a new game in the series!!!!
Nice to see Resistance videos here. Really hope this series is brought back someday.
I really miss the resistance series
Never forget Resistance ❤️
Okay, Y'all can get out of my brain now. I literally was watching your Resistance videos from 3-4 years ago yesterday.
I mean it was the best chance they had. Chimera need a constant supply of freshly converted humans to maintain their numbers, a lot of the intel in Fall of Man, specifically the Gray Jacks, suggest that most Chimera, because of their high metabolism rapidly degrade, in a year or two at most.
So if the US managed to stalemate the Chimera behind the Perimeter the Chimera, or at least the weaker strains, would eventually die off.
A lot of the plan was wishful thinking but it did take the full might of the Chimera bringing everything they had to break the Liberty Defense Perimeter and at this late stage there weren't really whole lot of other options.
Maybe if Noah Grace had used his, YEARS of advanced warning about the Chimera things would have been better, since the intel implies that FDR knew about the Chimera in the 1930s before Grace was elected in 1940.
In the Resistance novel, it's mentioned that Great Britain had wanted to try for an offensive in Europe after the events of Resistance 1, well the Chimera were vulnerable, but the Grace administration hadn't wanted to "waste" the troops for an endeavour that didn't push American interests.
Thing is that they don't need new humans, eventually the feral Chimera started reproducing on their own in the wild.
@@Shoxic666 Yes, but those are feral Chimera that are just as hostile to the hive mind, and their pure Chimeran masters, as they are to humans. Moreover, that was not known at the time and those feral breeds lack any of the Chimera's advanced technology and could have even helped take some of the pressure off of humanity.
@@michaelthayer5351,The ferals reproduction on their own wasn't necessarily unique to them, the others could have evolved it too. The Pure Chinera probably elected to stop making new soldiers as they didn't think they needed any. Plus crawlers and conversion centres had been largely phased out by now and spinners went feral, so they lack even a method of reproduction by 3.
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You should pick your words carefully, especially to one of my certain son who likes to build forts and fortify it to oblivion
Whoever wrote this game layout was seriously underqualified. 90 mm sounds like a lot until you realize that a 50 caliber round and a 30 mm round are almost the same size. 90 mm is only about a 3.5 in Shell which is nowhere near what you would use on a defensive emplacement like they describe. For comparison Coast guard vessels will normally be equipped with this size of weapon on their smallest vessels. Standard US Navy weapons will be 5 in which is closer to 130 mm , and the sort of weapon that they are showing in the illustration would be a 9-in naval gun, or in excess of 200 mm. The idea that the central us could not provide sufficient food for the US population is also seriously an error, but unless you happen to work in agriculture you wouldn't know that.
What are you talking about? 50 caliber rounds are nowhere near the same size as a 30mm.
Fixed fortifications will never stop a determined enemy of equal or greater power.
I knew I'd played so much of the resistance games that all I saw was the start of the title and new it was Resistance 2.
Such a good game, as was Fall of Man. 3 was okay but really didn't have the ending I was hoping for. I'd love if insomniac worked out a 4th or a reboot.
I liked Res 2 because of coop mode and got to play with my brother throughout the game. Sad they didn't maintain that for resistance 3.
Yea!!!!! Its a good day to be in the army!! This game made me join the military because it so cool to me as a kid
The map reminds me of the one from Gotham were the gcpd was keeping track of the criminal elements in different territory in the city after the bridges were bombed and the citizens were cut off from the main land without outside help
Would love to see an investigation into the nations of Foxhole. An Atlas video on the great bulwark or a Dossier on Callahan or the Marrows would be awesome.
agreed
I enjoyed this series and thought the lore was fascinating, but the United States somehow keeping its citizens in the dark about the chimera always bothered me. It makes sense that Russia was able to keep them hidden as the chimera were only in their country at that point and I can see them doing something stupid like trying to fight it by themselves without any assistance. I also understand and even think it works that the U.S. tried to bury its head in the sand and hope the chimera would just stay in Europe as the U.S. was extremely isolationist before WW2, but what was even the point of lying and saying that it was some sort of plague that was decimating Europe instead of the chimera? Even if no forms of communications or survivors managed to make their way to the U.S. and alert everyone of what was really happening and the U.S. was able to completely block off all contact from the outside world initially, there is no way that would last. People would be wanting to know what the heck is going on and I doubt they would be fine with such extreme measures for long. Even a really dangerous plague wouldn't justify such restrictions as its not like such a thing could transmit over telegrams, radio, or phones. The U.S. would have had to turn into a totalitarian government to implement such control and there is nothing in the lore that says they magically did so at some point.
This was a series with so much potential.
This game sounds dank af
Resistance was such a interesting game
Some of my favourite games universe wise
A shame the invasion didn't happen a century later, the Faro Plague from Horizon sounds pretty effective against this enemy!
Am I the only one who notices that the math for those gun emplacements doesn't add up?
The towers are each MUCH wider than 50 feet, and building 38,000 steel skeleton towers over a thousand feet tall, and sturdy enough to support multiple automatic naval caliber guns in an insane manufacturing accomplishment. By comparison, WW2 mobilization cranked out 50,000 Sherman tanks and 3,000 liberty ships, both of which require a fraction of the amount of steel alone.
My guess is somebody got their napkin math wrong when they wrote the document for the game.
More likely, the towers would be spaced so each cluster could support the tower cluster to its left and right. So you're probably looking at between 300 and 500 towers if the space puts each tower within the firing of its neighboring strongpoints.
Man I wish Resistance has a RTS game
There used to be Hearts of Iron 4 mod for it but it was abandoned.
If there will be any more videos about resistance series, I hope we can see a video about technology or European Trade Organisation
I presume this will be followed shortly by an analysis of the factions here on some level, as you've done a few times. I can tell you that geographically, this is ludicrous, and it's even worse militarily. The American advantage on defense has always been its ability to do so in depth, and with mobility. Giving up most of the land (especially most of the DEFENSIBLE land in the mountains and forests) and pouring your hopes into static defenses is insanity. I hope you tear this apart.
To be fair, As pointed out, the defense perimeter was more out of desperation than anything else. They knew they wouldn't be able to defend most of the United States and were correct in that assessment when the majority of its military was destroyed in the initial invasion and the remnants were basically facing off against an entire world controlled by the chimera. Trying to fight like you suggested probably wouldn't have worked out any better. The game itself does agree with you though that it wasn't a reliable defense. Pretty much all static defenses in Europe were easily bypassed or overwhelmed by the Chimera and the Liberty Defense Perimeter only lasted a few weeks before it was breached. That was kind of the point though. The United States never moved on from its isolationist ideology due to the lack of WW2 and as a result, tried to bury its head in the sand and hope it would be left alone rather than trying to fight the Chimera in Europe when it and the rest of the world might have had the chance to win.
Should do one on the Cloven in Resistance
We need a remastered reboot of this game.
2:15 like if your home would be in the liberty defense perimeter
Always wondered how it worked out with putting it in the middle of the United States. I'd think they would choose a coast since it has many more resources and people
Since the invasion fleets were showing up from across the oceans, it would have meant the perimeter would have to bear the full weight of the initial attacks, which when adding faster arrivals for chimeran reinforcements from asia or europe would have meant an early breach would be almost guaranteed
I starved in the Batton Rouge Protection camp 🫡
Fixed fortifications are moronic if you do NOT have an industry and civilian population under attack or to protect/ if they are mobile, if your main base is completely safe. Otherwise you NEED to play defensively. Static emplacements are commonly NEVER meant to be an effective defense line. They are meant to buy time to regroup and come up with a solution to the current situation. In resistance, the Liberty Defense Perimeter was ok. The problem was that it was used as a line of defense instead of stalling. It was also a single line, not layered. It would have been better to simply break up all necessary industrial and military elements for raiding ops and portability(make soldiers and civilians self-sufficient). I mean really, all of Europe, Asia and Africa fall and the Liberty wall was thought to hold the Chimera back and initiate a stalemate? Against billions of bodies in humans alone?
Great breakdown as with every other video.
Man SUCH a great series
Whoever designed that perimeter sure did NOT do their homework! Outside the "Enemy" menace, everything presented does not make sense (like most but not all politicians both in and out of uniform).
Can someone explain why it was constructed away from the coast?
It has always infuriated me that in a downfall scenario is that the ones who would get us into the mess (politicians) are the ones who get prioritized and be the ones who will survive. Only to re- infect the new world.
I see that I'm the first to comment. Good video, well done.
the only game where no matter how humanity try to fight the enemy is hellbent on their objectives
Recommendation for another scifi government to explore: The federation from elite dangerous or the empire from elite
Placing those towers every 50 feet sounds a bit much
Yeah, they should’ve placed them every 30 feet
Why not make the borders along natural barriers like the Rocky and Appalachian mountains? The area you chose seems arbitrary and uninteresting
Looking at the map, I'm not seeing the logic behind where the perimeter was built. It seems like they made more work for themselves than necessary while not protecting anything specific.
Fun fact in fall of man the church of england tried to sue sony becasue they had a level with the church in it