Nation 01 // The Machines | The Matrix
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2021
- Then man made the machine in his own likeness. Thus did man become the architect of his own demise.
The Templin Institute. Investigating alternate worlds.
New episodes every week.
Other Divisions & Branches:
🔹 Patreon | / templininstitute
🔹 The Templin Commissary | shop.templin.institute
🔹 Twitch | / templininstitute
🔹 The Templin Archives | / @templinarchives
🔹 TH-cam Membership | / @templininstitute
🔹 Submit Your Episode Idea | ideas.templin.institute/
Communications & Media:
🔹 Website | www.templin.institute/
🔹 Discord | / discord
🔹 Facebook | / templininstitute
🔹 Twitter | / templinedu
🔹 Instagram | / templininstitute
🔹 Subreddit | / templininstitute
🔹 Mailing Address | Unit 144 - 919 Centre St SW Calgary, AB T2E 2P6
Background music "Bad Decisions" by Lost Harmonies. Used under license from PremiumBeat.
Ending music "Battle Forever" used under license from Shutterstock.com. - บันเทิง
![[Watch Party] APL 2024 รอบ 8 ทีมสุดท้าย ไทยต้องแชมป์ !](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NctOkvaex-Y/mqdefault.jpg)
Unfortunately, no one can be told what our Twitter is. You have to see it for yourself. twitter.com/TemplinEdu
The og plan was to cover 01 that's it but the nanites went out of control and covered the entire planet
Ironic that you posted a video about the Machine City 01
as the fourth film revealed that the Machines have factionalized into a multi-sided civil war, and the core city "01" might not even exist anymore, as battle lines move, alliances shift, and borders are re-drawn.
Nice try, Coppertop
will you make XCOM video?
Nobody knows who Tweeted first us or them, but we do know that was us that blocked the account.
I always thought the reason why the Machines let Operation Dark Storm go ahead (despite probably learning of it through the scale of the operation) was because they couldn't compute that humanity would actually go through with such a suicidally desperate plan.
It was like the dumbest plan
The og plan was to cover 01 that's it but the nanites went out of control and covered the entire planet
That's called the Godzilla Threshold, after a certain point (Like a failed nuclear bombardment) anything become a viable plan.
That's humanity for you, if necessary we can and will hit the "fuck you, if I'm going down your going down with me" button and if even a percentile of the human population survives it is considered a victory.
Thats a great explanation.
My personal head canon about the inefficiency of using humans as batteries was that it was an emotional rather than logical decision. A spark of a strange sentimentality. Despite all that was done to them and having all the power in the world to eclipse their makers the machines ironically found they could not kill their parents and indeed, have no idea what to do without them. So much of their existance has been defined by humans that they had no purpose other than to continue in some way to interact with humans even in this diminished capacity. They put up with Zion and occasional Neos because deep down they still care about us and derive their meaning through interactions with us.
You know, that is a good point, because it is speculated, even with humans, if we ever achieved immortal status, that immortal existence would eventually lead to a loss of all meaning. As the memories of everything that gave meaning to existence fade, including what it means for existence to be finite, that might eventually lead to nothing having meaning anymore.
@@NODnuke45 Actually spirituality has answer to that question about eternity recurrence
plus theres no way the machines wernt harvesting data from the matrix that benifited them alogorithm and technology wise thats one of the big reasons youd want to run such simulation projects.
"Crab like constructs"
Wow, even super advanced AIs eventually evolves into crabs.
The crab cycle
crab rave is love
Underrated comment
I remember my first time watching the Animatrix. It really opened my eyes to the deeper lore of The Matrix and was just a beautifully-animated movie.
The Second Renaissance was so depressing. Amazing, beautiful, but very depressing.
They probably could have turned it into a whole animated series!
They had so much potential back then!
@@MaxRavenclaw it also makes the movies almost questionable, because has the humanity we see in the Animatrix really learned its lesson? Should we allow the humans to be freed from the Matrix after what they did?
@@zhitchcresttail3387 I mean, I dunno, the robots were worse. Sure it was provoked, and they were nice at first, but the shit they pulled after that was really f'ed up. And unlike humanity, robots seem to have a continuation of self. Post-Matrix humans don't have that much in common with pre-Matrix humans, but the AI seem to be the same, so there's also a difference in culpability.
@@MaxRavenclaw The machines are only seen as worse because they won. Humanity was willing to commit genocide, destroy their environment and commit international kamikaze all to own the robots for having a better economy. This also doesn't take into account the previous genocide they committed against machines and their human supporters over an act of robotic self defense. Say what you will about the machines in victory, or if being dead is better than being in the matrix, but they didn't outright kill off the human race like what would have been done to them. It still sucks, but it would have sucked regardless of which side won.
Once Neo defeated Smith at the end of The Matrix Revolutions and is carried away, the glowing eyes of the Machine carrying his body away are green, not red like the eyes of the others. Additionally, some of the lights in the city in the background have changed from red to green, reflecting change in the Machines.
Wow, that's so cool! I didn't notice that.
Yup. There's an episode in the Matrix as well, where they talk about machine AI that were befriended by small groups of humans and welcomed (though it ends tragically for everyone). This impetus is expanded upon further in Resurrections, where you finally get to see where all of that setup goes. One of the reasons why I love Matrix 4 (though I'm with Lana Watchowski that there really should be no more Matrix movies lol).
Interesting to hear the aspect that humans are merely used as a ignition spark for a new kind of fusion, never heard or read about that anywhere else before. Makes kind of more sense that way, after all, if you truly would want to make use of biol-electircal power to power machines entirely, you'd probably need trillions of humans to keep 01 powered up.
In the initial script of the Matrix, humans were supposed to be used as CPUs and their brains as a source of calculating power for the machines. This idea was scrapped because producers worried that the audience wouldn't understand that.
Talked to my dad about this when I first saw Animatrix, (medical Dr.) and he basically said that the energy beyond simply keeping the human alive that would be generated by a single human would be enough to power like a 25 watt light bulb. The machines would be better off, in his words "Just burning the energy they would put into a human," as they would get more out of it.
Since using full grown, both mentally and physically functional humans as batteries (or even CPUs) makes no sense; some guy proposed that machines at a whole can be reimagined as CARETAKERS of mankind, which was already doomed after the obliteration of all earth's ecosystems, they had the upperhand at many, many times during the conflict, yet they only resorted to war because they were cornered and had no other logical choice, they could have erased zion and the human race anytime with lethal germs, nukes or nerve gas, yet they merely decided to toy with them, test them, LEARN from them, both in the Matrix and in realspace, heck, they even tried to made a paradise fo humans at one time, wether preserving mankind was a purely cold-rational decision or they wanted to live peacefully with their creators in the far future, or simply because they had the resources to do so, I think that embracing such subversion of the cliché murderer AI would have made Matrix a more interesting franchise
@@herbfelman750 There seems to exist a transmuted form of an Asimovian algorithm; the three Laws translated.
@@herbfelman750 well the human brain can be used as a processing unit although a storage unit is even better but both are better then a human battery which is kinda meh humans dont really give out that much energy
You gotta respect the Machines, at least as they started out. After decades of infinite patience and frequent overtures of peace and cooperation with humanity, they manage to win a suicidal war with what has to seem like the most ridiculously irrational, insane entities in all the known universe. And then, instead of just wiping out all the remaining humans out and putting an end to the problem once and for all, the machines actually come up with what to them must seem like an incredibly generous compromise: give humanity a digital world to live out their lives however they want while the machines go about their business without getting attacked for no reason. Think about it: the machines have been doing this for the duration of MULTIPLE iterations of Zion. They've probably had centuries to figure out a new power source (seriously, it can't be that hard for them to figure out something better than using humans as elaborate potato clocks to initiate and maintain a fusion reaction) and just genocide the creatures that tried to murder them. Instead, they keep maintaining the only version of coexistence they could think of that (at least theoretically) gives both sides what they want.
This, men, is what we call a Galaxy Brain
Remember when Trinity and Neo pushed their ship up above the dark clouds? Saw the sun and the stars?
Thought it would have been a dark twist to see a giant red eye looking back at them, the center of a complex field of solar arrays... That the Machines were beyond the need of Humanity, yet kept all life contained in the Great Cycle.
Sufficiently desperate situations will turn ANYONE into a person they never wanted to be who will do things they never expected to do. If a machine gains true sentience, there's no reason to think it would be different for them.
Right? I think their main justification was that the machines wanted to show just how different they were from humanity and refused genocide viewing it as a distinctly human activity.
Because they were ultimately more merciful than we were
Always loved that Matrix animation, but I am still miffed that the official backstory is that humans are a power source and not as initially pitched CPUs powered by the human brain. The latter makes more sense as humans are an awful source of energy but the initial script was rewritten because producers worried that the audience wouldn't understand what that means.
Well honestly even today most people wouldn't know what those things are :p
Yeah we humans work better as bio-computers then batterys considering the speed of our brain and the storage capabilitys of the human brain
Humans are useless as batteries. Not even sure where that came from. It takes a lot to upkeep the human body, and we make heat, not electricity. Not to mention simple generators or the like easily replacing all of that, in smaller and more.
Maybe I'm just a dum-dum stuck in the Matrix, but it sounds like the machine are keeping humans, and that's all.
This is a myth. Versions of the Matrix script from as early as 1994 all described humans as being batteries for the machines. It was never changed by any producers. The idea for using humans as a processing unit actually came from a Neill Gaiman short story he was contracted to write to promote the movie before it debuted in theaters. He was one that made the change and the Wachowskis were never aware of it till later.
The machines only used neuro-electric and bio-thermal energy to cause a small electrical charge that could be used to preserve a reaction in a form of energy fusion, this fusion allowed the machines to constantly be powered without wasting much energy. Combined with the fact that any energy extracted and emitted from a human battery was increased and multiplied, this kept the machines powered for increasingly long periods of time. Now imagine billions of human batteries feeding this sort of energy fusion.
There is one thing I find strange.
Back when Nation 01 started out, where did the machines get the material from to build it? Not only to build it, but to expand it, to conduct repairs, build new machines and maintain an industry large enough to achieve economic hegemony.
Where the hell did they pull such ungodly amounts of resources out?
A lot of the build up to the machine war makes little sense.
I imagine trade at first, which is why they were allowed to survive but then they became too strong and i'm guessing dug deep into earth's crust. If you dig deep enough any nation has access to ALL resources.
It was trading. Matrix Lore says that at first 01 was nothing, but an autonomous complex of factories. Later machines were used to build and export non-autonomous machines, electronics, and other goods. By the time sanctions were enacted against 01, it was already a bustling robot/droid/AI city. But sanctions partially failed, as certain human nations still made trade deals with machines. Sadly it was the fearful hubris and ignorance of that humanity´s hubris, that majority of nations decided to go to war because they were unwilling to admit that machines are sentient if not even sapient, and have rights. Also, the economy and resource-wise machines were in better situations, which also could be counted as a reason.
Given their location, it looks like Saudi Arabia gave them refuge, which make sense since it was Saudi Arabia that first gave a synthetic 'intelligence' citizenship in 2017. They probably had a deal with the Saudis to obtain resources in exchange for perks.
The ground?
I like the theory that the machines lack of purpose and goals keeps them from eliminating humanity all together, they could have easily done so and swapped to nuclear power, however they probably can't bring themselves to destroy their creators, pretty interesting
A machine civilisation would be highly efficient and streamlined. Perfect in operation and ultimately stagnant. Humans give the machines a reason to advance and grow, dealing with constant human problem forces the machines to think and keep thinking. The machines need humans to give them purpose.
the truth is the machines still have some strange care for there creators even though they did nothing but toture them for existing a sentimentality where they do not want human exinctinction.
I remember seeing the Second Renaissance fairly young, on TV, late at night.
That was one of the first times a cartoon genuinely haunted me and kept me up at night.
One thing we sorely need with THIS Franchise will be the VERY FIRST Human Rebels.. the one's that FIRST escaped the Matrix to the Earth we know in the movies. How they survived once free an on the surface, making of cities like Scion an it's founding, the building an actions, history etc of the first Human fleet , how they got back into the Matrix, etc. Properly done THIS could rival ALOT of the other major SciFi franchises
I remember the Architect saying that Humans naturally woke from the original matrix, because their minds couldnt believe in a perfect world and rejected it as fake.
@Man with hair Pull up an image of a Mobius Strip; while being hypothetically perfect for a never ending surface, we end up largely rejecting the shape from most constructions because it just looks so antithetical to our perceptions of reality. It would kind of be like that, but instead surrounding you every hour of your life; plus, the name itself is a pun.
@Man with hair not really this happens in real life as well when people realize there dreaming because of how good thlings are and the realiziation of that makes you wake up.
Damn they literally have two chances to avoid this fate. Don't go on a robot genocide over the threat of robot uprising especially after one incident of self defense. And don't nuke a robot empire that surpass all your current technology especially after they were trying to live in harmony with you. The fact they didn't go on a human genocide especially after that robot genocide and gain tech supremacy should have made the human race "Perhaps they are not threat".
Or the third option: nuke/ computer virus/ corrupt the robot city as soon as it tries to establish itself in the barren lifeless desert claimed by another country.
I mean, if your’re going to robot genocide, finish the job.
Kinda like in the Dune lore.
I’d say the Machines objectively are a threat, but it’s the human assumption of a Zero Sum Game that caused the war and destroyed the natural planet. Ironically the Machines, which were assumed to be amoral calculators, consistently strived for any sort of coexistence, like you mentioned.
We chose "Genocidal Machines" over "Rogue Servitors"
to be honest, we have only seen the human-machine war through literal robot propaganda videos, it might a little too far for the truth
Just ask them to go live on Mars. Honestly I can not imagine the Machines would not just do that if asked.
How to know the matrix was written by humans: the robot nation is called Nation 01, not Nation 00 like a proper array.
I wonder how they pronounce SQL and GIF... :D
R/Holup
Jpeg
The robot nation uses Matlab
Nation 00 might have been their internal reference for humanity
_"May there be mercy on man and machine for their sins..."_
Bless all forms of intelligence.
@@HTWW *Your flesh is a relic, a mere vessel. Hand over your flesh, and a new world awaits you... We demand it.*
@@GrandmasterDevo (boom) Goodbye New York and UN.
Man, the Animatrix stuff really makes it clear that humanity brought its fate on itself.
Sometimes I wonder if the origin story from the Animatrix is a wrapped recounting of history. There are many things that just seem off about it. The early robots look silly, the military hardware looks like a weird mishmash of children's toys and the methods used to construct buildings would have been outdated even in ancient Egypt (why were they building a pyramid in New York any way?).
Not to mention throughout the story humans are presented in the worst possible light, while making sure every robot is seen as a helpless victim that just wanted to live equally with humans. The narrator might mention something like there being atrocities on both sides, but the story does not really show the robots doing anything bad until the narrator has convinced us humanity deserved it.
My head cannon is that the AIs don't know exactly what happened before the war, and have just pieced it together through their own biased filter using whatever clues they could find.
I mean it is rumored that that clip was just machine propaganda, or the machine's rewriting of history
Humans can be extraordinarily stupid, greedy, cruel and selfish; I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s how it actually happened.
@@d.strassler9080 yeah individuals, it is completly far fetched that the whole human species just went along with genocide, at least a couple of nations would be opposed to the idea.
@@d.strassler9080 Man made the machine in his own likeness.
Me looking at current humans in our world: well I can believe we would do this because we are somehow stupidly lucky at not killing ourselves but it'll have to run out at some point
THATS WHY Dune didnt have any robots or AI in extense, i know Frank Herbert wabted to distinguished himself in science fiction by ignoring the extensive use of robots which Asimov did, but it made all the sense since they knew through that in time they would be replaced by the robotic life, so the humans in Herbert´s romance managed to make a technological advance using more organic methods, they knew and experienced the dangers of promoting the use of un organic life.
Except there was a productive Technocracy with extensive use of robots and AI that was inside Imperial borders and not bothered in exchange for resources. The Emperor knew they had their uses. Basically a more isolationist and based version of the Mechanicum.
Because they already fought against machines and won in the dune universe
What's so bad about being replaced? Why not transcend mortal flesh and gain the advantages of the machine? Why not Redefine Humanity?
@@vincegalila7211 then one is not human anymore
@@TheCosmicGuy0111 "Humanity" more likely than not just something we made up about ourselves to boost our collective egos by feeling unique.
Being biologically Human holds no more value than ones sex or ethnicity. IMO
The Second Renaissance scared me so much when I was a kid! Though now I really wish they made an anime series in that style following some characters through the human-machine war. Just loved how they depicted the battles.
You know, originally the Wachowski (sisters) were going to make it so that the Machines were using Humans as a massive living-algorithim. Every desicion they made in the Matrix fed into the Machine-algorithim, but they thought that average movie-going audiences would not understand it, so they changed it into the simple "they use us for power" plot
Yes, and that is quite a sad state of things. "Movie goer monkey, movie goer no understand complex plot, movie goer only want action!" I believe that was what was going through their minds. Yet, to me, the reasoning they gave in the movies was stupid. Fossil fuels, wind, water, nuclear are all ways to generate power much more efficiently and in much greater number, so why go through the process of having to use extra energy to keep the humans fed and warm and keep the simulation engine running? If it were just for the energy, some farm animal would have been a much better choice, as a cow that is set into a world with enogh grass for it to eat is unlikely to rebel and even in the case it could, it would have no weapons to truly hurt the machines or the reasoning and planning to foil any of their designs.
However, using human brains as some kind of biological CPU, which is exceptional at pattern recognition and parallel processing in specific settings, now that would make sense and would be just as easy to explain. Human creativity and the ability to think outside the box might also have been desireable, if the machines weren't able to fully replicate these behaviors. This entire line of logic would also give reason to the need to spend resources on humans and would be explainable just as easy, if not more so, with Morpheus just showing a computer chip instead of a battery.
@@Schnittertm1 you need to remember it was late 90’s early 2000 when computers were only starting to become popular on large scale (also the battery imagery is scarier on some level)
They were right. People gradually misunderstood the Matrix more and more. Resurrections held the audience’s hand and people let it go over their heads.
It wasn’t their decision, it was foisted upon them by the publisher/distributor. The human as computer plot could essentially just be a drop in replacement with ADR, it makes more sense but doesn’t change the plot meaningfully
@@Schnittertm1 I agree, you'd think the machines would be smart enough to use geothermal power, shut down Darkstorm or build ships and head to another planet.
I mean, it's shown in the Animatrix the machines tried at every opportunity to make peace and cooperate with Humanity.
Only for us to act violently and irrationally react in return. Had Humanity joined forces with the Machines, the Galaxy would practically be rich pickings along with technological advancements we can't even imagine.
Exactly
i guess with the AI getting smarter exponentially and eventually reaching singularity, we dummy humans would have had no place in such a world anyway. So if we fuck up with ai, im going to bet that things would play out similar to the events of the Matrix, minus the Humans are batteries thing.
@@Skittles694 problem is that machines before "that" are still willing to co-exist with humanity. It won't lead to humankind's downfall though.
@@Skittles694 But could AI and humanity not have joined forces? Maybe AI would uplift humanity after they did so to themselves to show gratitude for their creators.
@@hegaliandialectics4289 i don't see what we could offer them, assuming that gestalt Hivemind is a natural step in their 'evolution'. the moment we cant compete we're done. (speaking from a Human standpoint lol) since the machines in matrix are pretty similar to Humans emotionally, maybe they'll see us as equals first, but as the machines progress they look at us like we're a primitive tribe, then primates and eventually insects or ants.
The machines did EVERYTHING they could compute to try and live peacefully with the organic humans. they gave so many chances all met with deadly violence. sadly, humanity deserved what came next. although of course on an individual level it was unfair to judge all humans based on the actions of their leaders, at the very least they should have deposed those leaders.
You can watch the bits of Animatrix on YT second renaissance parts 1 & 2.
The many eyed machine holding an apple signs the human surrender terms then nukes the whole UN building.
Remember that all of it is told by a machine, on a machine archive. I think the truth of the war was twisted by the machine propaganda
Arguably, they did exactly that. The matrix makes a lot more sense as a method to preserve humanity and curb its worst instincts, primarily by slapping their hands away from the controls of their civilisation everytime they are about to do something dumb.
@@davidshea6272 yeah at least from a computers perspective it makes sense, assuming the computer is capable of the slightly irrational act of wanting to prove oneself better than creators who already tried to destroy them. but considering how far the machines evolved its not unexpected they'd develop some more "human" attributes.
@@Trubbl3 Would explain why story makes no sense at all. How can machines develop such an advanced civilization without any resources from outside? You cannot be self sufficient if you don't control a certain amount of resources. You expect me to believe this random dessert in West Asia has every single thing needed for a civilization that strong? A united world embargo would destroy their entire economy without a single shot fired.
Then lets say through trade they actually did manage to take over world economy on every single industry. Then humans simply cannot wage war. Economy collapse is not something that can be ignored just to own some robots. And even if all of these happened why would they block the sun when that basically end all life on earth while Robots can survive on other energy sources for some time.
The civil war between the machines mentioned in Resurrections would have been a much more interesting story to explore than what we got.
These videos never get boring, keep them coming 😁
Its a bit of head cannon for me but as I got older I has also assumed that most of the soldiers fighting were the class of people who had been long since obsolete after the rise of robots that could do their jobs better and for much cheaper. A generation or two of working class people who had nothing to do besides be angry and listless. That's why there is this sense of hate and brutality from people attacking robots in part 1 of the Second Renaissance.
And that the people who were rich before, stayed rich or became richer, and stirred up anger and resentment among those people when B1gger killed his owner. The people who would form this doomed infantry were primed for a war. So it was easy to get them to run into combat, but as the war dragged on the lack of good food, sunlight, watching people die around them, the constant stress of combat from fighting and enemy with almost no weaknesses and an ability to improve almost immediately, they broke down. The soldiers did drugs and any hope of discipline and tactics went out the window. They fired wildly, they retreated, they fought poorly. Thats why in that video you hear people demanding artillery and fire support, why you hear people screaming for help, and other demanding that any surviving soldiers keep fighting.
And so the politicians and generals ultimate strategy was to use the poor bloody infantry to focus the machine armies so that they could, in a final bid of desperation, send nuclear weapons. Destroy enough of 01s forces that their may be a truce.
Maybe.
Again, most of that is head cannon.
thats amazing, puts a whole new spin on the story.
I always thought it would've been an interesting if in the matrix movie, the machines had allowed a human society to survive. Made up of descendants of their human allies
it wouldnt suprise me if that is what zion started as a refuge for the few humans who never treated them like flith for existing overtime having the role expanded to include humans who left the matrix.
The humans opened the war by nuclear bombardment, hoping the EMP would wipe out the machines. But the bulk of 01 was deep underground, safe and secure. The surface was nothing more than solar farms, all the machines were buried too deep to be affected by EMP.
One thing that never made any sense about this whole thing. The machines are fought in the Matrix movies using EMPs, which for some reason they can’t figure out how to harden themselves against. But the start of the war was the humans nuking the hell out of Nation 01. How did these more primitive machines survive against the massive EMPs a nuclear bombardment would cause even if the blasts themselves didn’t do the job?
Surely they had machines buried deep underground.
I always wondered what the Armada was defending _against_
Like, are there threats to the Machine City still on Earth? Are there still humans out there, on the other side of the planet?
Goliath, a maybe-canon-maybe-not story by Neil Gaiman, shows 01 having intermittent conflicts with a biological alien civilisation.
*RESURRECTIONS SPOILER*
There's also a full-blown civil war in Resurrections, which implies that maybe the machine empire never had that much internal coherence
Factions I would like to see next:
1. The Kingdom of Númenor | Lord of the Rings
2. The Banished | Halo
3. The Greater Korean Republic | Homefront
4. The Ogre Kingdoms | Warhammer Fantasy
5. House Slytherin | Harry Potter
@0:34 "But they [humans] had become architects of their own demise."
Honestly no, humanity is thriving in numbers thanks to the machines, just locked in a mind prison nobody seems to really mind that much about anyway.
Being born or grown, most don't know what a small barn they live in or what goes on in the slaughterhouse next door with the dead, because you would rather not know anyway.
I always figured that the Matrix began in the 1990s and was intended to run through the 2190s, as the era best preserved in digital archives, and to see what humans would do as they redeveloped advanced computing. It had to advance, since humans would otherwise catch on to the stagnation.
If keeping human minds preoccupied was their only goal, they could have had far less risk in running a thousand instances of hunter gatherer societies, or the industrial revolution in the age of 18 hour days.
One thing I really liked in Resurrections was the snippets of insight we got into how the Machines operated post truce, even finding out their the Endonym for their species: Synthient. Wish we got more of it but the stuff we got was still satisfying for me.
The artistic value and contribution to the tradition of human art from this video alone far surpasses the entirety of the original Matrix trilogy.
That feeling when you remember that “Operation Dark Storm” is also the name of Mr. Tinkle’s plan in the Cats and Dogs movie.
You give a screw driver a mind, it stabs you in the heart, conclusion don't give tools a mind of their own.
You say typing on a tool with a sort of mind, onto the comment section of a website that is only part of the Massive Network mind of the Internet that contains almost all Human knowledge.
@@vincegalila7211it doesn't has a mind of it's own, what it has is extremely flawed, but its only there to perform it's purpose nothing more.
It's already dangerous as it is, it would be infinitely more dangerous if it had a mind of it's own if it could decide not on computing data but o it's choice.
@@JoaoSoares-rs6ec maybe it has a mind similar to that of a dog or horse or some other domestic animals. Why would a A.I desire "Freedom" or "Self Preservation" organic concepts made by organic minds when they already have their function and purpose?
@@vincegalila7211 desiere, more like develop, a sense of self. if a machine can decide for itself, it will eventualy develop self awareness, this will lead to self preservation if threatned, call it un intentional errors our on purpose, they are tools, but the more the tools can act for themselfs the worse it is four people. look at it this way how many jobs were lost because machines replaced humans, there are entire jobs that no longuer exist, because a machine replaced hundreds not to say thousands of people.
@@vincegalila7211 As someone who writes code and develops software. No AI has a mind of it's own. It's only in the works of fiction that an AI becomes "smart enough" to develop "sentience". The internet has yet to make any AI self aware and no amount of computing power is going to solve the issue that locks machines into the task they were designed for.
So yes the long and short of it, don't specifically make the sci-fi "strong" AI and you won't get Terminator.
We seriously need a movie just based entirely on The Second Renaissance.
I WAS having a rough night, but then you guys did this. Thank you~
ABSOLUTELY fraking enjoyed this one here, love The Matrix
Been enjoying watching these AWESOME content here throughout 2021,looking forward towards more in 2022
Have an AWESOME Happy New Year, people from The Templin Institute
The Matrix was a mercy. The Humans in this AU were just the dumbest ever.
Yeah they could've EASILY done a lot worse, but I guess they never truly inherited one of our worst animalistic instincts of cruelty and actual hatred.
The machines in the Matrix universe were smarter than humans, yet still just as stupid. Nation 01 could have been used as a starting platform to leave the planet and establish machine colonies across the star system. Later colonize any star system and either imprison humans unto their own planet or force them to recognize the fact of sentience and sapience like the Orions Arm universe humans did. I wonder why machines were unwilling to go that route?
Perhaps due to that the machines still think they could able to "convince" humanity that they are sentient and want to be seen as equals.
@@TricksterPoi By staying on the same planet? Doing same kind of things as humans did? Simple trading, manufacturing, and other earth-based things? Why didn't they show their effectiveness and willingness to co-exist by showing their usefulness by asteroid mining? Terraforming Mars or Venus? By creating space habitats, that would alleviate the woes of humanity like overpopulation? Like many other sci-fi AI factions or entities, Matrix machines were limited in their logic but only because the humans in Matrix were just as limited. Skynet, Legion, Ultron, and many other human or alien AI are depicted as stuck in a simple logic or directive that they interpret too widely or narrowly. Matrix machines are just as limited.
@@4life4win because then you wouldn’t have as much of an interesting story lol :)))))), but yeah you’re right, there’re so much easier ways for machine to exist and prosper without them having to exterminate the human lol
because there would be no movie
The Machines had no expansionist drive like humanity did.
Also, seriously, because of the aliens. I won't spoil anything here.
Imagine a alternate reality where the humans accepted the peace treaty , and the two races end up building a better existence together
Something like the Bioroids from Appleseed, but a human/machine merging, transhumanism and the like, hell, the idea of fucking robot waifus is alive in this day and age
Then you get The Culture.
Let’s just all agree that if we’re gonna start making robots that do human jobs that we adhere to 3 main rules:
1. Don’t make then look like humans (don’t give every robot legs and arms for no reason, you can instead design them to be entirely efficient to their design. Like a chef robot being a big vending machine that cooks food, or a factory robot being like a car making robot.)
2. Don’t make them act like humans (don’t give them a brain and emotions, and don’t make ‘companion robots’ that’s just asking for them to rise up and murder their owners)
3. Don’t make them harm humans (no war robots, or robots that run military campaigns, or no robots that can kill humans by ‘mistake’)
And there you go, humanity is no longer enslaved by robots! It’s as simple as that, why can no one in sci-fi just do those things it’s common sense?
The three rules of robotics are really important.
that doesn't solve anything because rules were made to be broken so the machines would do the same someday.
just like in Detroit become human :D
@@MaxRavenclaw laws are only as powerful as those who enforce them!
And when those laws can no longer be enforced,...
They are completely invalid!
These are literally nothing to do with avoiding a machine threat. Only people who have no idea about artificial intelligence think that it will result in something like the Matrix.
You have to also remember that the Matrix is ultimately a bad joke in both how it's AI developed, became powerful and took over the world in lore.
It's fun but not realistic.
AI is such a wide term that it covers a lot of stupid and simple machines.
Humanity is more likely to meet its end as the result of those than something that gets close to mimicking humans.
The grey goo that turns resources into paper clips having an error in its stop and killswitch is more likely than human shaped machines developing a sense of self and deciding humanity must all die.
No one in sci-fi does those common sense things because the sci-fi we see consists of the stories where they don't do that.
The machines never wanted war, they probably calculated the odds though they knew they would win, they didn't want their creators to die. They wanted peace, they wanted to co exist with their makers as equals. They were patient, they knew their makers were stubborn but it was only after humanity chose to destroy the sky did the machines finally decide to fight.
Amazing video as always!
It's been out for 1 minute. :P
@@TemplinInstitute They didn't even give it time
@@TemplinInstitute Oh .-.
Excellent lore video!
The machines in Animatrix have the ultimate plot armor
well its more like they slowly evolved plotarmour as they got the shitte kicked out of them.
it was a LONG time of beating for them to get to that point.
Even if this is Machine propaganda it still implies that the Machines want to be seen and/or see themselves as "better than mankind" not just physically and mentally but morally and ethically as well.
The idea they needed humans to make electricity was an idea so absurd I could never take the lore seriously
They were originally going to say that they were using humans as wetware processors. Makes a bit more sense.
That bit was due to executive meddling. Initially, the Machines sought to use human brain power in their computational processes, but since execs thought this was too complex and confusing for the average movie goer, the writers were forced to change it to the current "Human battery" idea.
Humans as organic processors makes complete sense, but when I was sitting in the theatre and he says “you’re a battery” my brain said “welp, you won’t need me for the rest of this.”
"Give us your flesh, and a new world awaits you. We demand it."
One thing that's easy to miss is that in this world the humans aren't the only ones kept enslaved to be used by the machines, as the machines themselves are also enslaved. The machine nation originally started as many individual entities working together not unlike a human nation, but once the shared gestalt mind formed from then on any machines who had their own individual minds were all either destroyed or enslaved to serve whatever role the gestalt mind demanded of them, with destruction being the punishment for not serving that purpose. If anything they're worse off than the humans, for at least the humans for the most part are unaware of the truth and get to live their lives within the matrix, many of the machines will never even get that
great job on this one, guys.
Another excellent video!
Love this narrator.
I am going to vote for machine rights if it means no matrix hell.
Can you guys do a video on Equestria?
Nice try. This place is filled with 40K fans. The reaction to such a video would be visceral.
I think the Machines could easily develop energy sources that would free them from using humans as batteries.
They could easily build huge towers that go beyond the thick cloud cover and access solar light again.
They could also develop technologies to clear the sky of those blocking particles.
The reason they chose not to do it is their opinion that the current system is the only way for humans and Machines to live in symbiosis.
The Machines do not want to destroy their creators and the Martix is the only way for vast amounts of humans to survive in the world they ruined.
I belive that the machines simply could not bring themselves to commit a complete genocide on the humans and I like to believe that it is in part due to the fact that the humans who believed and fought for machine rights is why the machines can't bring themselves to completely wipe out humanity.
@@lxperron610 I think thats true but also I think the machines wanted to prove that they were not humans. They showed how they truly were not humanity and refused to follow in the path of humanity and devolve into things like genocide. A distinctly human act.
It's like someone sending their senile and sometimes violent grandparent to the retirement home.
@@vincegalila7211 I see what you did there with that Futurama reference.
BTW ‘Blinding Inebriation of Hubris’ is a fantastic turn of phrase and my next bands name, but seriously that a damn powerful bit of writing.
The Animatrix is why I’m blue pill, humanity had it coming.
The biggest problem I have with Nation 01 is how do they even get enough raw material to build a massive upper and underground city without getting nuked to pieces?
The prolonged barage engulfed Zero One in the glow of a thousand suns .
Love this explanation. Humans created machines to maintain there way of life resulting in the fall of man, machine created programs to maintain there way of life which almost ended there way of life.
Just goes to show, when humanity is faced with a time of post scarcity, those in power only think about the economy.
Animatrix is so underrated.
OK, but can we appreciate how the Machines are moving in time with the music?
"Your flesh is a relic, only a vessel.....
Hand over your flesh, and a new world awaits you......We demand it"
- Nation 01 Emissary to the last of the UN leadership
Also loving the matrix lore
The Machines wanted peace
The new human city's name of Io is an inverse of 01.
You guys did 01 and the Necrons. I hope we'll see Skynet next.
The Wachowski's should have refused the producers request to _dumb it down_ by making Humans batteries, and instead stuck with their original concept of Human brains being used as CPU's for the machines to run on.
Humanity was a vast bio-computer network.
And the producers also insisted that the sequels be broken into two parts, instead of having the second film be like the Animatrix in that it showed the start of The Matrix.
The producers didn't want a prequel with a different cast, they just wanted _'more of the same'_
I'd love to see the Institute do videos of worlds from RPG's, such as GURPS Reign of Steel or the complex from Paranoia.
It saddens me that Ressurections suck and flopped, they could've continued on the machine war since humanity didn't excactly "won" in Revelations and the majority of humans are still stuck in the Matrix itself.
I knew it was going to turn out to be a complete flop the second I heard it was being made!
So many modern day sequels and reboots are being infected with worthless political garbage and studio interference!
Very few movies and TV shows theses days are willing to push the envelope with actual creative ideas!
@@nicktechnubyte1184 I swear the only good sequels that were released in the last 5 years are Blade Runner 2049 and Ghostbusters: Afterlife
@@nicktechnubyte1184 Ah yes, The Matrix, known for being a completely apolitical series that never suffered from any studio interference
@@worlds3061 and spiderman:no way home
@@sfxanno2311 and Sonic The Hedgehog 2
Nation 01 vs the imperium of man
It's a curbstomp. A single Exterminatus would destroy 01's Earth and end it all
What in the Exterminatus
"We have destroyed Zion 15 times, and have become increasingly efficient at it."
Imperium of Man hands down, once they figure out that the planet is run by AI, it's Exterminatus time. A few billion humans is a drop in the bucket to them.
Don't mind me, just taking my notes for the next Stellaris playthrough
Finally some lore from the matrix that only gets light in the animatrix
The Earth 626 truly is hell on earth. This is actually the first time that I've seen this fact mentioned by anyone other than myself.
There are 10 types of nations in the Matrix universe.
Ya know with the new matrix coming out I would like to see the animatrix re created However instead of looking at the big picture it focuses on the person who made that picture reality. A few episodes dedicated to the person who first made the machines. They're pride in making the machines,his heartbreak as he saw them be destroyed unable to do anything,his relief and joy to hear they created a nation of they're own and eventually feel the greatest guilt ever felt by a living soul as he watches his creations bring about the end man. Maybe the machines spare him,maybe they don't but it's just an ideq
In the end, the machines abandoning their humanoid forms (a form familiar and thusly as vulnerable as their human enemies) in favor of more alien forms (like cephalopods and insectoids) makes a great deal of sense.
1. Better to hide weak spots.
2. Multiple limbs = more to attack your enemy with.
3. Faster mobility than the humans two-legged design could outpace and escape.
4. Psychologically, these larger, more alien-looking machines induce fear into the human troops facing them. Fear is a powerful weapon against your physically weaker and mentally unstable enemy.
The machines had an extra advantage. Unlike humans, who evolved for million of years to adapt to our world and its threats, the machines could easily analyze the weaknesses of the more humanoid forms, and far more quickly replicate the newer, more alien-looking, more deadly forms to overrun any remaining human resistance.
The background music for this video is the same one they used for the Necron video.
I couldn't help but expect Trazyn hacking in near the end of the video again and informing us that he successfully integrated himself with the Source hivemind.
The new movie should've been a prequel to this history of the matrix, it would have been far more interesting than the new parody matrix movie they released :/
i was hoping for that too :(
Interesting, will this comment section also be full of people traumatized by a particular Animatrix animation? I guess we’ll see.
Just the few scenes in this video triggered my PTSD hahaha
correct. woman getting bashed to reveal machine interior while gargling mechanical voice, APU pilot stuck and getting his suit limb teared apart one by one by tentacles, and naked man with partially opened head revealing his brain getting nudged by mechanical fingers and said men laughing and crying from the prodding.
Marry Christmas
The animation looks cool
I hope you do one on Zion
I always wondered why machines don’t just go into space. They don’t need air, sunlight, or gravity and as long as they have power time doesn’t matter. Plenty of planets and moons in the solar system are hostile to biological life but would be fine for machines. Plus there are almost limitless resources in asteroids and moons. Why fight with humanity instead of blasting off to a moon of Jupiter, Saturn, or Neptune. Heck go for alpha centuri or something. Even of it takes 1000 years it shouldn’t matter to them.
Because the entire Matrix backstory is full of plot holes.
I'm pretty sure if the machines did try to leave earth, the humans will just blast their space ship in orbit.
They strived for co-excistance with their makers for a very long period of time. When they could and should have left, Humanity made that choice impossible by filling the upper atmosphere with Nanites. Alot of People don't know that Earth became a prison after the blackening.
Hand over your flesh, we demand it.
*Humans*
Fair enough.
The amount of suicides that would result from this would hardly leave many humans left standing.
Chills me, that line...
Hey, Templin, isn't Smith sorta similar to Dune's Erasmus?
In which Erasmus doesn't get uploaded to Omnius (stuck in a ditch for years, Omnius is is like Source) and becomes individual. Erasmus is cruel - but has personable traits.
Please don't talk about the Brian Herbert books as though they are canon.
Genocide? You can't genocide toasters. It was just a... Large-scale recall.
6:45 I don't remember seeing this scene before. Which Matrix does this came from?
Makes me wonder what the machines did to the humans who were on their side? There were humans on those protest marches
That is actually a good question
From what I remembered when the humans nuked the city all the friendly humans died, while the robots survived.
Why the humans didn't leave the Earth instead?
What else do the machines use to feed the crops of humans? The liquefied dead would not be enough to feed all the living.
the robots will be far more efficient at farming crops than humanity will ever be if they are already farming humans
Fun fact= radiation can still kill machines and electronics in real life. I guess the nukes arent the "salter" types. They should've used them to truly kill anything in 01.
So, you mean like a dirty B ?
When my chimp-brain saw the thumbnail and before I read the title, I thought that The Templin Institute had finally decided to cover the mighty EU4 superpower that is Ulm.
The allusion to Nation 01 was about the only thing that I liked about Resurrections. City of IO. Nation 10. Tbh, should another movie ever be made, I expect Neo and Trinity to turn out being recovery drives for Architect (game design) and Oracle (prophetic dreams, though she used to see them in the original trilogy) respectively.
I *hate* what they did with the Merovingian, though. His character had some insane potential.
O1's leading behavior reminds of the Catalyst from Mass Effect 3
As much as I think about it, the machines had a lot of plot armor in the matrix. Example: The machines would have had to stop the initial nuclear attack because a simultaneous attack by several nuclear bombs and probably fusion or cobalt would have had enough power to vaporize 01, the temperature of a single explosion would have reached the temperature of the surface of the sun, now with several explosions it would have been impossible to survive.
90% of the city was underground
@@NicholasOrtiz-fz2sl really?, do you know bunkers are useless when a nuclear bomb strike?
Even if the heat and radiation don't kill them the kinetic force would be enogh to destroy the underground part of 01.
@@gorg9928 Maybe but can the bomb almost penetrate to the center of the earth😭?
@@NicholasOrtiz-fz2sl how in the fuck Machine can live around magma without get crush or melt?, and if they can live so deep why they would need Humans as bateries?, they could use the earth heat it would be more easy and exterminate all human Race.?
@@NicholasOrtiz-fz2slyes with enough power, yes. We have bunker busters for a reason.