@@Zaysav the only real reliable ones are the turbo models , the s and the lower trim are not as reliable but almost all the turbos can last 200k miles easily... look on the forums
Porsche 911 is reliable considering the performance and capability, however they have their quirks. The important things hold up, but little things break or don't function well...squeaks, rattles, noises, sensors, blah blah...personal experience owning 2 of them. You could probably thrash it around a track all day and it will be fine, but there's going to be weird noises that develop after a few years and maybe a faulty sensor. If you want reliability, a mass produced economic Japanese car is best.
@@hislopandy79 WTF? Lame is when when you have to pay 25000$ for PDK replacement as clutch pack is not provided by factory and you have to buy the whole transmition.
@@christophercolumbus8944 Pay a ton of money to rebuild the engine, because they are old, also you got to make sure, no rust on the car.... they are for collection and not driving around any more. but I rather own an old classic 911, than 996....997... I know this guy if look up he installed a K24 engine into his 997, very cool 325 torque...
True story. I was at a BMW dealership one Sunday so the dealership was closed. Well, a tow truck driver drove up pulling an older M3 coupe. He saw me walking by and he asked me if I was buying a BMW. I told him no and I was just looking because I walked over from the Porsche dealership next door. He replied that was good because he picks up too many BMWs that have broken down.
@@harveyhankerson4307 Good for you. I have a 2001 530i sport. Not a performance car, but it's a brick.. Now has 260k miles on it and has an issue about once every four years. I also have a 2009 X5, its bankrupting me. It's nice to drive skiing, but holy hell.. I shoudla' gotten a 4Runner
@@michaelcosyn1717 I mean I understand they're not very reliable but their engines and transmission are bullett proof its their plastic components you can find them aftermarket if you drive something that people buy aftermarket parts for people make aftermarket metal parts for those issues
@@abinsaji4449 The problem is that I'm not a mechanic, so I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Different engine components kept going out on it. I put in $13,000 in 3 years.
Modern Porsches are more reliable than BMW but Porsche are more expensive to service and repair as they are not manufactured in large numbers and their tolerances are much higher! Lastly no M3 is a competitor to any 911. They compete against Cayman models in the modern world. Look at the Ring times and see how many 911 models are on the list vs nothing from BMW in the top 50 times. Lastly Porsche is only getting better as is evidenced by its reliability ratings. When you use 2010 its an unfair metric as it includes the old and the new 911. A 991 is not a 997!
Yea this video is pointless it’s 2 different class of cars. Performance and price, most Ms will be around 90k for a nice model. Most 911 are north of 100k even 300 k for nicer models.
Alberto J. Mollinedo It depends on the model as only the top end Porsche models compete with exotics like Ferrari and Porsche. There are no 100k Ferrari or Lambo models but most Porsche models can be had for 100k or less.
I feel that bmw’s would most of the time be a daily driver vs a Porsche which mostly will be a weekend driver. The guy driving 30k a year vs a guy driving 3k a year of course will greatly throw off running costs so speculating reliability across the board is not accurate.
Ardhana 03 I’ve been buying BMW for years now.. not one problem.) there awesome cars. But I just test drove the new LEXUS LC 500.. I’m definitely sold on that.) good buy BMW.. sorry guys.
Do we even need to raise this? I bought a 15 year old 997 and it performs and looks like it was just out of the factory yesterday....best purchase ever...BMW is another matter altogether...
No surprise here Porsche has better reliability then BMW. Morden BMW's are not as reliable as the older BMW's I have always liked the BMW M3 but the best M3's are the E30, E36 European version and the E46. when the E90 and E92 come out thats when BMW got way to complex for its time and the styling was at a weak point . The F80 Is a very nice M3 its by far way better then the E90 in terms of styling, performance as for reliability its questionable this all depends on the person that owns one and how the take care of it.
owned 3 bmws all 3 over 2 years with hard daily use and track use. Only my M240i had an issue which was not mechanical. Owned 1 porsche for less than a year but no issues.
BMWs get free maintenance their first 4 years or 50,000 miles. So I assume his numbers are from Year 5, which would obviously be higher than a vehicle being serviced, out of the consumers pocket at Year 1.
I've owned numerous Porsches and BMW's among other German cars. Porsche has definitely been the most reliable for me, and I drive my Porsches regularly, year round in all weather.
@ECPP Yeah, I daily drove a 996 911 for 4 years. It was great, never let me down. It was a Carrera 4 and I threw snow tires on it and drove it through the winter months too.
What's the point talking man - all cars have their own problems - there is no car without any problems - what reliability you are talking about when it comes to performance cars - it depends on driver - crazy driver will burn one and another one down if car will not be maintained
Not entirely true while all cars have problems, BMW doesn't meet certain standards, I've had 2 99 Porsche Boxsters, and didn't have issues with them not that these cars won't have issues like all cars along the line it will have but no where near as regularly as BMWs, I've had a BMW E90 that developed every problem you can imagine in a 2 month period, something has definitely gone wrong with BMWs quality control, as at one time they set the standard for quality.
A 2013 318iX. The brake booster failed, we received a recall notice a few days later. The dealer claimed to know nothing about any recall and said nothing was wrong with the brakes, refused to accept responsibility for the accident caused by no brakes, the insurance rep drove it, said, NO brakes. Had to replace the brake pads at only 40k, constant electronic glitches. My daughter loves the car, we got it for her graduation from university. She wants a Porsche next and I don’t blame her. I have had three Porsche’s,a 911 turbo S, a 2004 Cayenne turbo, and now a 2019 Cayenne turbo. The 04 was an overweight gas hog but very reliable and amazingly comfortable to drive cross country. Traded it in with 220k on the odo. The 911 is a 997.2, never a problem.
I would assume that when compared to other cars these two are subjected to harder driving conditions therefore would have more repair frequency. You might not see main stream brands being thrashed at the track and that would skew these results comparatively
The only good German car is Porsche other then that the rest are peices of garbage. Audi, bmw and merc is the biggest trash known to mankind. Most mechanics agree with me.
My uncle.. he’s a mechanic.. he’s been working on German since the early 70,s.. and you’re definitely right about that.. pure junk. .but they are getting better.. with time.)
Honestly right here from a guy that knows a lot of mechanics and thus knows what they think about cars you want a boring reliable car that's ugly and not very luxurious yet quite expensive and will last forever? Get a Toyota or Honda but porsche and bmw audi mercedes are generally quite expensive when they do break cause of the amount of tech that is put in them which makes them extremely fun and amazing to drive and ofc the awesome looks this even somewhat goes for volkswagen since they are better then most standard non premium brands so audi merc and VW will last in EUROPE gasoline engines since diesels pretty much go on forever that's 500k miles plus from vw or Audi at least gasoline 200-250k miles is the common limit here porsche and bmw 100-150k without major issues which is fine for most driver's of these brands honestly reliability wise they are allright
Suryateja GT Umm who told you I’m American or driver American cars? ...Just from you assuming things I’ll take your “German cars are great” mentality with a grain of salt...Keep on assuming things you know nothing of 😉
I was a big BMW fan but BMWs are the worst I’ve owned 3 & they stayed in the shop…..sometimes check engine would come on for no apparent reason & my x drive would disengage & engine would lose power….Mechanics hate to touch them so your forced to take it to bmw…..My cousin had a bmw 550i that ran out of push start cranks which cost 1200 for Bmw to do a 5 minute reset along with other problems …..My dad 745 gave him all kinds of problems….. Cheap plastic parts on a performance motor & they don’t hold up…… I been done with BMW
What do you think about a maserati levante S vs a cayenne coupe S , I drove both , I love them and I think that the smart move is getting the cayenne s , but man! , the maserati has something special , the sound , the look and it has a more agressive acceleration than the cayenne , Im just going to use those cars for the weekend , so I dont know how reliable the maserati or porsche will be for weekends only , I will never take them to the track , just highway use, I daily drive a chevy tahoe
So why is it that the Porsche gets 1 .5 out of 5 in terms of reliability as a gainst the M3 1 out of 5 but you can drive the wheels off and still drive home?i dont get it,so which car has 4 or 5 stars ,and can those cars drive their wheels off at the tracks better than the Porsche and BMW and still drive home?.The facts dont add up.
I wouldn't buy any one of these junker cars both are crap I'll just stick to my Lexus rx keep your over expensive pieces of shit unreliable expensive to repair why would anyone buy one of these junker vehicle s
so as - you could take two m3 and compare them it would be the same as one could be breaking down more than other - same model same make 1 of two could have different reliability when it comes to performance driving
Honestly I still have a bmw 2003 745li, I agree its not as reliable due to the things that go wrong or the bunch of warnings I get on idrive but it never stranded me in the side of the road or suddenly broke down. I honestly can say I never towed it due to a failure in the car, even when the trans failed it went into a failsafe and gave me 3 shifts to get me to where I was going. And when the engine started to overheating due to valve stuck on close position it tooke where I wanted with reduced power so it doesn't overheat to a point that could damage the engine. And now I used it once in while because now I have the 2019 M550i and its amazing. But I still can say proche is a bit more heavy duty than a Bmw but I love bmw style
I would say go with the glc/gl amg class, reason being, the cayenne/turbo is one of their less reliable ones and the x5 and x3/m are rated as prob the worst suv along with some gm ones and Chevy/Chrysler SUV’s. The Mercedes might have problems but you should at least make 70k trouble free with reg maintenance
I own a BMW now, had Cayenne Turbo S in the past. Since we discuss facts: In 2022, Porsche delivered 34,801 cars from the 911 model line worldwide. Yet for 911 there are different versions. While M3 is a version of 3 Series, it is like 911 Turbo S, it's a particular version of the model. I didn't find precise sales data on M3, but in 2022 BMW M GmbH 177,257. Would be great to compare how may M3s are out there first, group by year ect. Same for repairs data. Otherwise, we are comparing apples to Oranges. As an outcome to see the percentage of repairs over cars sold. Question on comparing BMW model version again entire Porsche 911 model line remains open. On the other hand, it all depends on the maintenance and the driver(owner), at what circumstances the failure happened, you name it. Those two are top brands. Buy what you like, enjoy it and don't forget to service it, and by that I mean taking care of it, for example changing oil based on moto-hours, fuel it with high quality petrol, don't overheat... Every car has its weaknesses. However, you might be surprised how many people try to save a buck on maintenance and get to the repair service after that.
If you had a choice between a 2018 porsche macan with 14,000 miles or a 2020 BMW X2 with the same miles which one would you choose? All i care about is reliability, but I REALLY WANT A PORSCHE. Thank you
I won't buy vw, Audi because they were ok with poisoning us with dieselgate, Porsche didn't stand behind their car with ims bearing, blew through two engines on my boxster, they replaced my engine with same design flaw
Same for me. I drive an 09 750Li. It has luxury for days. It has reliability for minutes. I'm buying a Hyundai Equus. My brother bought one and his has been completely trouble free.
LMFAO. You just took it a few hundred miles out of Porsche safe zone SMH. A Porsche will never go 300k-400k miles without a problem like a Toyota/Lexus thats why you can look up 1 million mile Lexus and 1 million mile Toyota. You cant find a good running Porsche with 200k miles that has not had engine work done.
@@penvon BMW is not the argument here. He said "Modern Porsche are nearly equal to Toyota and Lexus" and that couldn't be farther from the truth. 1st modern Porsche cars have not been on the road long enough to make a claim of that caliber and 2nd Porsche tech and reliability has come a long way but nowhere near far enough to claim equal or near equal to Toyota/Lexus. I own two BMW's 2014 650i F12 and a 2015 328i F30 and i wouldn't dare try to put their reliability in the same ocean as my 08 Toyota corolla.
Bespoke Man I think the problem here is a Porsche 911 is not really daily driven like other cars so when Consumer reports & others say they’re reliable,some people tend to be surprised...Same as our host here who just pointed out that BMW scores 1 star but in other videos he put BMW on par with Lexus/Toyota for reliability. I think they should take into account how much these vehicles are being driven when they make their comparison.
Well considering most porsches aren’t really driven that much tbh they usually have less than 100k miles and be over 15 years old sooooooo I can’t really trust this comparison
Americans so judjmental stop it! Fact is BMW is as reliable as a Toyota in germany. Its not the cars original design thats the problem the problem is how they are built cheaper in America. The Germans make them mega reliable the problem is how the American BMW factories to them. Drive a european BMW it will be faster and way more reliable.
Dexxon Gaming Sorry but that makes no sense. The only American made BMWs are the X5/6. The majority of BMW cars are from Europe or South Africa a European M3 is fundamentally the same as the US spec one
Dexxon Gaming you have to understand that European cars are different here... I've been to Europe and see Mercedes everywhere, even police cars.. It's not the same here.. The quality of BMWs in the states are not as good.. it may seem crazy but it's true
@@lash9400 i know it sounds pretty weird but like all the horror stories that you hear from bmw are from the states i myself live in belgium and in europe bmw is super reliable. Ofcourse every car needs to be taken care of. :)
The key aspect that this video doesn’t mention is that yes while BMW may break most often from hard driving, repairs are not very expensive, when you compare it to Porsche. Porsche is a great brand that I have yet to own. But if you are a car enthusiast who will drive these cars hard, don’t get a Porsche unless you earn more than 200k salary. Because when it breaks it will literally bankrupt you. I don’t know much about Porsche’s warranty but my M3s and M2 have been top notch. I had a few issues and they were all covered and I had the car back in 2 days at most.
bmw better build car , porsche lack of technology and still they have some much issue in panamera transfes case which cost 5000 $ and failed within 30,000-40,000 mile , drive shaft which failled as will within the same mileage , i am 100% sure bmw dont have major issue like that within the first 40,000 mile , if we talk about throtel actuator we are talking about 70,000 mile and above and you still can change the plastic gears before they failed for 100$ only so forget about actuator , with regards to m3 they use DCT which is bullet proof :) , connecting rod bearing any hight rev engine will need to replaced even the Audi R8 , hurrican , 458 and most sport cars
Panamera and Cayenne are terrible because they are glorified VW's. A 911 would be far more reliable because it is actually a Porsche, and not badge engineering.
Too true.. have owned bmws and a Porsche for over 10 years in parallel and can vouch for this.. I think the Porsche is much more reliable than the bmw.. hands down.. however wear and tear parts on Porsche can be dearer..
How about none of them are reliable at all. German cars arent exactly the definition of reliability, but if i had to choose one it would be the Mercedes BY FAR. BMWs by experience have far less problems, but many none the less, certainly not as frequent as those of Porsche. Reliability only goes together with Honda and Toyota, everyone else is way behind them. Toyota can make a supercar which can last for as long as 150k with few minor problems
I know this and yes, Lamborghini is seriously the best brand out there. The Huracan is amazingly reliable as is the Gallardo. V12 Lambo's are quite sturdy, its just that parts are pricey. Porsche is an awesome brand nonetheless.
German cars just have no soul look at their names 911 wtf ?? How sexy is 928 compared to Alfa Romeo Quattro foligio?? Sounds like a great bj from 4 babes
Awesome, I have driven the X5 M and know that it is a real powerhouse. The X6M has the right balance of aggressive looks and style mated to an angry engine. Makes for a fun drive.
The 911 has been the best car I ever owned.
They are awesome
What 911 do think I should get thanks
@@itsjdm1842 turbo s
Hey I’m thinking of getting a Carrera s. Is the reliability good. And is it hard to get it repaired.
@@Zaysav the only real reliable ones are the turbo models , the s and the lower trim are not as reliable but almost all the turbos can last 200k miles easily... look on the forums
Porsche 911 is reliable considering the performance and capability, however they have their quirks. The important things hold up, but little things break or don't function well...squeaks, rattles, noises, sensors, blah blah...personal experience owning 2 of them. You could probably thrash it around a track all day and it will be fine, but there's going to be weird noises that develop after a few years and maybe a faulty sensor. If you want reliability, a mass produced economic Japanese car is best.
But Porsche is mass produced,
I stay away from 996 and 997 important main stuff don't hold up.
Japanese cars are so lame compared to a German car. Japanese cars are for teenagers…..
@@hislopandy79 WTF? Lame is when when you have to pay 25000$ for PDK replacement as clutch pack is not provided by factory and you have to buy the whole transmition.
how about a 911 porsche from the 80s??
@@christophercolumbus8944 Pay a ton of money to rebuild the engine, because they are old, also you got to make sure, no rust on the car.... they are for collection and not driving around any more. but I rather own an old classic 911, than 996....997... I know this guy if look up he installed a K24 engine into his 997, very cool 325 torque...
True story. I was at a BMW dealership one Sunday so the dealership was closed. Well, a tow truck driver drove up pulling an older M3 coupe. He saw me walking by and he asked me if I was buying a BMW. I told him no and I was just looking because I walked over from the Porsche dealership next door. He replied that was good because he picks up too many BMWs that have broken down.
Nice
Oh.. really my 2006 M3. Has 106 thousand miles on it.. not one problem yet.. knock on wood. There Awesowne cars. This is my 4th one.
@@harveyhankerson4307 Good for you. I have a 2001 530i sport. Not a performance car, but it's a brick.. Now has 260k miles on it and has an issue about once every four years. I also have a 2009 X5, its bankrupting me. It's nice to drive skiing, but holy hell.. I shoudla' gotten a 4Runner
@@michaelcosyn1717 I mean I understand they're not very reliable but their engines and transmission are bullett proof its their plastic components you can find them aftermarket if you drive something that people buy aftermarket parts for people make aftermarket metal parts for those issues
@@abinsaji4449 The problem is that I'm not a mechanic, so I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Different engine components kept going out on it. I put in $13,000 in 3 years.
Modern Porsches are more reliable than BMW but Porsche are more expensive to service and repair as they are not manufactured in large numbers and their tolerances are much higher! Lastly no M3 is a competitor to any 911. They compete against Cayman models in the modern world. Look at the Ring times and see how many 911 models are on the list vs nothing from BMW in the top 50 times.
Lastly Porsche is only getting better as is evidenced by its reliability ratings. When you use 2010 its an unfair metric as it includes the old and the new 911. A 991 is not a 997!
That’s fair and believe it when I say, the 911 is the benchmark for all other sports cars.
Yea this video is pointless it’s 2 different class of cars. Performance and price, most Ms will be around 90k for a nice model. Most 911 are north of 100k even 300 k for nicer models.
It would make more sense to compare them to Ferrari Lamborghini or other cars in that league.
Alberto J. Mollinedo
It depends on the model as only the top end Porsche models compete with exotics like Ferrari and Porsche. There are no 100k Ferrari or Lambo models but most Porsche models can be had for 100k or less.
I drive Porsche Cayenne Turbo for daily drive. It is an expensive fun SUV. So far so good
And how did it go? How much is annual maintenance?
If you MAINTAIN A CAR properly then they all last. But Porsche better besides the tires
Sorry but BMW and reliability should not be in same sentence
Thanks for watching and dropping a line. Cheers.
Exactly!!
😂😂
It depends on the model/year.
I feel that bmw’s would most of the time be a daily driver vs a Porsche which mostly will be a weekend driver. The guy driving 30k a year vs a guy driving 3k a year of course will greatly throw off running costs so speculating reliability across the board is not accurate.
That’s ODD,BMW gets 1 star but against Lexus It’s on par with reliability? 🤔
As German Car, Porsche is not as reliable as Lexus....
Ardhana 03 I’ve been buying BMW for years now.. not one problem.) there awesome cars. But I just test drove the new LEXUS LC 500.. I’m definitely sold on that.) good buy BMW.. sorry guys.
Do we even need to raise this? I bought a 15 year old 997 and it performs and looks like it was just out of the factory yesterday....best purchase ever...BMW is another matter altogether...
Porsche is a great machine other than NA 996s
No surprise here Porsche has better reliability then BMW. Morden BMW's are not as reliable as the older BMW's I have always liked the BMW M3 but the best M3's are the E30, E36 European version and the E46. when the E90 and E92 come out thats when BMW got way to complex for its time and the styling was at a weak point . The F80 Is a very nice M3 its by far way better then the E90 in terms of styling, performance as for reliability its questionable this all depends on the person that owns one and how the take care of it.
owned 3 bmws all 3 over 2 years with hard daily use and track use. Only my M240i had an issue which was not mechanical. Owned 1 porsche for less than a year but no issues.
BMWs get free maintenance their first 4 years or 50,000 miles. So I assume his numbers are from Year 5, which would obviously be higher than a vehicle being serviced, out of the consumers pocket at Year 1.
My dad works for porsche and trust me porsche is 10x more reliable, faster and better than bmw
Thanks
Also more expensive... 😂
TheWallStreetReaper
Here in the UK the most expensive car to buy and maintain is a bmw
Porsche is very reliable
I've owned numerous Porsches and BMW's among other German cars. Porsche has definitely been the most reliable for me, and I drive my Porsches regularly, year round in all weather.
How about the 911? Drive one daily?
@ECPP Yeah, I daily drove a 996 911 for 4 years. It was great, never let me down. It was a Carrera 4 and I threw snow tires on it and drove it through the winter months too.
What's the point talking man - all cars have their own problems - there is no car without any problems - what reliability you are talking about when it comes to performance cars - it depends on driver - crazy driver will burn one and another one down if car will not be maintained
Not entirely true while all cars have problems, BMW doesn't meet certain standards, I've had 2 99 Porsche Boxsters, and didn't have issues with them not that these cars won't have issues like all cars along the line it will have but no where near as regularly as BMWs, I've had a BMW E90 that developed every problem you can imagine in a 2 month period, something has definitely gone wrong with BMWs quality control, as at one time they set the standard for quality.
I really appreciate your honesty in your reviews. Accurate as can be. Thanks so much.
Thank you very much. That is greatly appreciated.
*Its sad. You as the customer paying all that money for a machine you would hope that thing is reliable. That’s sad.
Having both brands in the family, the BMW is a POS. The Porsche’s, a 911 and a 2019 Cayenne turbo, never break, no issues.
I love the 911s too but what kind of BMW do you have?
A 2013 318iX. The brake booster failed, we received a recall notice a few days later. The dealer claimed to know nothing about any recall and said nothing was wrong with the brakes, refused to accept responsibility for the accident caused by no brakes, the insurance rep drove it, said, NO brakes. Had to replace the brake pads at only 40k, constant electronic glitches. My daughter loves the car, we got it for her graduation from university. She wants a Porsche next and I don’t blame her. I have had three Porsche’s,a 911 turbo S, a 2004 Cayenne turbo, and now a 2019 Cayenne turbo. The 04 was an overweight gas hog but very reliable and amazingly comfortable to drive cross country. Traded it in with 220k on the odo. The 911 is a 997.2, never a problem.
Would a 2012 Cayenne be cheap and reliable to maintain?
This guy really just took 10 minutes to read a repair pal summary. Complete waste of time.
Thanks
big time waste agreed
I would assume that when compared to other cars these two are subjected to harder driving conditions therefore would have more repair frequency. You might not see main stream brands being thrashed at the track and that would skew these results comparatively
The only good German car is Porsche other then that the rest are peices of garbage. Audi, bmw and merc is the biggest trash known to mankind. Most mechanics agree with me.
Porsche is an awesome car brand, and easily one of the best driver cars.
@@ECPP I agree, Porsche is one my favorite brands.
My uncle.. he’s a mechanic.. he’s been working on German since the early 70,s.. and you’re definitely right about that.. pure junk. .but they are getting better.. with time.)
ExoticCar PlayPlace bran new 911 turbo. We only had for 6 months. Already burning oil. UNBELIEVABLE.
Bmw and Porsche are overrated, over sensitive and over price repair for both, unless you are rich and like to overspend stay away from both brands
Honestly right here from a guy that knows a lot of mechanics and thus knows what they think about cars you want a boring reliable car that's ugly and not very luxurious yet quite expensive and will last forever? Get a Toyota or Honda but porsche and bmw audi mercedes are generally quite expensive when they do break cause of the amount of tech that is put in them which makes them extremely fun and amazing to drive and ofc the awesome looks this even somewhat goes for volkswagen since they are better then most standard non premium brands so audi merc and VW will last in EUROPE gasoline engines since diesels pretty much go on forever that's 500k miles plus from vw or Audi at least gasoline 200-250k miles is the common limit here porsche and bmw 100-150k without major issues which is fine for most driver's of these brands honestly reliability wise they are allright
My 10th gen honda civic is not ugly
I cringed at the pic of the 911 on the flat bed. Tow hooks attached to the wheels!
I know right?
Porsche takes the win when it comes to performance and reliability.
true
One does not buy a German car for reliability. They buy them cause they’re special, something Luxurious and fun
Konner K so why is the host of this channel always talking about reliability of BMW being on par with Lexus of all brands?
Suryateja GT Umm who told you I’m American or driver American cars? ...Just from you assuming things I’ll take your “German cars are great” mentality with a grain of salt...Keep on assuming things you know nothing of 😉
I was a big BMW fan but BMWs are the worst I’ve owned 3 & they stayed in the shop…..sometimes check engine would come on for no apparent reason & my x drive would disengage & engine would lose power….Mechanics hate to touch them so your forced to take it to bmw…..My cousin had a bmw 550i that ran out of push start cranks which cost 1200 for Bmw to do a 5 minute reset along with other problems …..My dad 745 gave him all kinds of problems….. Cheap plastic parts on a performance motor & they don’t hold up…… I been done with BMW
It’s sad that they could be so much better but that plastic has ruined much of these cars
What do you think about a maserati levante S vs a cayenne coupe S , I drove both , I love them and I think that the smart move is getting the cayenne s , but man! , the maserati has something special , the sound , the look and it has a more agressive acceleration than the cayenne , Im just going to use those cars for the weekend , so I dont know how reliable the maserati or porsche will be for weekends only , I will never take them to the track , just highway use, I daily drive a chevy tahoe
Never knew till today that 911 is being compared with m3
Right
What about the brand new BMW M5 competition package 2019 with a lot of power
I reviewed one and wow are they impressive.
Can this channel do something else except bmw and reliability?
S. Bor Next up will be “is BMW more reliable than an iPhone?”
So why is it that the Porsche gets 1 .5 out of 5 in terms of reliability as a gainst the M3 1 out of 5 but you can drive the wheels off and still drive home?i dont get it,so which car has 4 or 5 stars ,and can those cars drive their wheels off at the tracks better than the Porsche and BMW and still drive home?.The facts dont add up.
Porsche still wins
We all wanted a booster growing up
I wouldn't buy any one of these junker cars both are crap I'll just stick to my Lexus rx keep your over expensive pieces of shit unreliable expensive to repair why would anyone buy one of these junker vehicle s
You go with that overpriced Toyota called Lexus
I've had about 30 something BMWs (M3s and M5s as well as other BMWs). I have had a hand full of Porsches. Porsche is 10 times more reliable than BMW.
Absolutely right on that one.
BMW anyday over VW
Agreed
It might be owned by vw but Porsche is still Porsche and its better than bmw!
@GT Suryateja damn what’s ur problem
so as - you could take two m3 and compare them it would be the same as one could be breaking down more than other - same model same make 1 of two could have different reliability when it comes to performance driving
Nice
No Surprise... Thanks for the detailed information. Glad I picked a 997.1TT
Cayennes and macans are absolutely atrocious. So are panemeras. U chose the 1 car that porsche makes that’s reliable
Thanks for sharing
Honestly I still have a bmw 2003 745li, I agree its not as reliable due to the things that go wrong or the bunch of warnings I get on idrive but it never stranded me in the side of the road or suddenly broke down. I honestly can say I never towed it due to a failure in the car, even when the trans failed it went into a failsafe and gave me 3 shifts to get me to where I was going. And when the engine started to overheating due to valve stuck on close position it tooke where I wanted with reduced power so it doesn't overheat to a point that could damage the engine. And now I used it once in while because now I have the 2019 M550i and its amazing. But I still can say proche is a bit more heavy duty than a Bmw but I love bmw style
Best cars ever owned.
AMG C63 Benz
BMW M4
Porsche 911
My fav is the Porsche 💔💔💔💔💔💔
Worst car owned alfa romeo junk
some great choices
@@ECPP but The Alfa Romeo was A mistake.
718? Turbo boxster four? Seems more reliable
Making shorter videos will get you more viewership .. please talk to the point
If you love Luxury cars and have to go with one which one would it be ? x5(bmw) , GLC (merc) or Porsche cayenne ? planning to buy in 2-3 years
I would say go with the glc/gl amg class, reason being, the cayenne/turbo is one of their less reliable ones and the x5 and x3/m are rated as prob the worst suv along with some gm ones and Chevy/Chrysler SUV’s. The Mercedes might have problems but you should at least make 70k trouble free with reg maintenance
Should have been a 4 second video, it's Porsche period.
It really is.
Porsche best cars in the world
Sweet
This is exactly what i need know
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I own a BMW now, had Cayenne Turbo S in the past. Since we discuss facts: In 2022, Porsche delivered 34,801 cars from the 911 model line worldwide. Yet for 911 there are different versions. While M3 is a version of 3 Series, it is like 911 Turbo S, it's a particular version of the model. I didn't find precise sales data on M3, but in 2022 BMW M GmbH 177,257. Would be great to compare how may M3s are out there first, group by year ect. Same for repairs data. Otherwise, we are comparing apples to Oranges. As an outcome to see the percentage of repairs over cars sold. Question on comparing BMW model version again entire Porsche 911 model line remains open. On the other hand, it all depends on the maintenance and the driver(owner), at what circumstances the failure happened, you name it. Those two are top brands. Buy what you like, enjoy it and don't forget to service it, and by that I mean taking care of it, for example changing oil based on moto-hours, fuel it with high quality petrol, don't overheat... Every car has its weaknesses. However, you might be surprised how many people try to save a buck on maintenance and get to the repair service after that.
If you had a choice between a 2018 porsche macan with 14,000 miles or a 2020 BMW X2 with the same miles which one would you choose? All i care about is reliability, but I REALLY WANT A PORSCHE. Thank you
1 star out of 5 vs 1.5 stars out of 5. Both are unreliable at that rate.
For sure.
Currently driving a 2007 bmw 530xi will never buy one again it drive like a champion but reliability is the worst will go to Audi or Porsche
I won't buy vw, Audi because they were ok with poisoning us with dieselgate, Porsche didn't stand behind their car with ims bearing, blew through two engines on my boxster, they replaced my engine with same design flaw
Audi has worse reilability.
Same for me. I drive an 09 750Li. It has luxury for days. It has reliability for minutes. I'm buying a Hyundai Equus. My brother bought one and his has been completely trouble free.
Thier r used car lots full of me m4 m5 and x5m and wonder why
My got my Porsche in 2014 the same time my friend got his M3. He's been to the shop 6 times for non routine maintenance purposes.
Porsche is far more reliable than BMW.
Modern Porsche's are nearly equal to Toyota and Lexus.
LMFAO. You just took it a few hundred miles out of Porsche safe zone SMH. A Porsche will never go 300k-400k miles without a problem like a Toyota/Lexus thats why you can look up 1 million mile Lexus and 1 million mile Toyota. You cant find a good running Porsche with 200k miles that has not had engine work done.
Bespoke Man well he did say “nearly equal” unlike the host of the video that insists BMW is superior in reliability to all others.
@@penvon BMW is not the argument here. He said "Modern Porsche are nearly equal to Toyota and Lexus" and that couldn't be farther from the truth. 1st modern Porsche cars have not been on the road long enough to make a claim of that caliber and 2nd Porsche tech and reliability has come a long way but nowhere near far enough to claim equal or near equal to Toyota/Lexus. I own two BMW's 2014 650i F12 and a 2015 328i F30 and i wouldn't dare try to put their reliability in the same ocean as my 08 Toyota corolla.
Bespoke Man I think the problem here is a Porsche 911 is not really daily driven like other cars so when Consumer reports & others say they’re reliable,some people tend to be surprised...Same as our host here who just pointed out that BMW scores 1 star but in other videos he put BMW on par with Lexus/Toyota for reliability.
I think they should take into account how much these vehicles are being driven when they make their comparison.
@@penvon Very true and i totally agree.
What about when they get over 100,000 miles?
Ouch
Don't worry. They never reach 100k... Lol
@@hdarmawan my dad's 2009 BMW 730d has 180,000 miles.
I hope the new supra is not problematic since its a bmw.
I hear ya. Time will tell.
Well considering most porsches aren’t really driven that much tbh they usually have less than 100k miles and be over 15 years old sooooooo I can’t really trust this comparison
Pick your poison.
The 911 seems like a great place to go
ExoticCar PlayPlace I’d prefer them.
How’s the M6 in reliability
Which year ?
I’m just starting to look into these now but I would say 2014 to 2016 what I could afford
Money Pit.
2009.. good year. Not one problem.) so far
Dino Aungpe good
10 mins is where you get paid for your vids. Gotta be 10 mins. Ya'll are suckers and taking 1 persons opinion.
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so what's your favorite car? generally...
Overall BMW is the WORST Germain cars in term of reliability
Americans so judjmental stop it! Fact is BMW is as reliable as a Toyota in germany. Its not the cars original design thats the problem the problem is how they are built cheaper in America. The Germans make them mega reliable the problem is how the American BMW factories to them. Drive a european BMW it will be faster and way more reliable.
Dexxon Gaming Sorry but that makes no sense. The only American made BMWs are the X5/6. The majority of BMW cars are from Europe or South Africa a European M3 is fundamentally the same as the US spec one
Dexxon Gaming you have to understand that European cars are different here... I've been to Europe and see Mercedes everywhere, even police cars.. It's not the same here.. The quality of BMWs in the states are not as good.. it may seem crazy but it's true
@@lash9400 i know it sounds pretty weird but like all the horror stories that you hear from bmw are from the states i myself live in belgium and in europe bmw is super reliable. Ofcourse every car needs to be taken care of. :)
Issue was settled long ago! Porsche ranks behind only the best Japanese brands. No contest especially modern cars!
Please get to the point sooner...10 minutes into the video
Thanks for watching
The key aspect that this video doesn’t mention is that yes while BMW may break most often from hard driving, repairs are not very expensive, when you compare it to Porsche. Porsche is a great brand that I have yet to own. But if you are a car enthusiast who will drive these cars hard, don’t get a Porsche unless you earn more than 200k salary. Because when it breaks it will literally bankrupt you. I don’t know much about Porsche’s warranty but my M3s and M2 have been top notch. I had a few issues and they were all covered and I had the car back in 2 days at most.
I'm going to buy a Lexus gs f and no more problems 🤓
Solid cars and decent performance.
@@ECPP I'm tired of this 335i, I try to keep it well but it's almost impossible
ExoticCar PlayPlace already have one..) worth every penny.. !! And more
So rs3 daily beater. M4 for the weekend
It is like comparing garbage bags. Do I want Hefty or Tuff?
No
Porsche is an engineering company first, car co second BMW is a car/ bike company
What about 2011 panamerra turbo s, reliable?
What about the Panamera is it more reliable?
Great video in depth!!! How are these things brand new though are they different more reliable if brand new off the showroom floor?
bmw better build car , porsche lack of technology and still they have some much issue in panamera transfes case which cost 5000 $ and failed within 30,000-40,000 mile , drive shaft which failled as will within the same mileage , i am 100% sure bmw dont have major issue like that within the first 40,000 mile , if we talk about throtel actuator we are talking about 70,000 mile and above and you still can change the plastic gears before they failed for 100$ only so forget about actuator , with regards to m3 they use DCT which is bullet proof :) , connecting rod bearing any hight rev engine will need to replaced even the Audi R8 , hurrican , 458 and most sport cars
Yup
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Panamera and Cayenne are terrible because they are glorified VW's. A 911 would be far more reliable because it is actually a Porsche, and not badge engineering.
@@TheRguru1 VW shares 100% parts by AG to Porsche since 2009
B M W > Porsche/VW
Too true.. have owned bmws and a Porsche for over 10 years in parallel and can vouch for this.. I think the Porsche is much more reliable than the bmw.. hands down.. however wear and tear parts on Porsche can be dearer..
What u think about panamera turbo...?
Wonderful
I'm fire fan of Porsche but is absolutely true to say that's BMW is more reliable.
My mom has a Porsche Cayenne and she never has to go to the repair place and she’s had it for 4 years now!
That’s promising for sure. Porsche is one of the best
你真是一个宝马派来的托，but you are good and enthusiasm.
How about the Kia stinger gt?
I think its a good car
I owned one, 156k Km no single mechanical issue.
Ps: not stinger gt
Comparing reliability of BMW to Porsche is like comparing faeces to poo.
It's all just shit
Yummy
How about none of them are reliable at all. German cars arent exactly the definition of reliability, but if i had to choose one it would be the Mercedes BY FAR. BMWs by experience have far less problems, but many none the less, certainly not as frequent as those of Porsche. Reliability only goes together with Honda and Toyota, everyone else is way behind them. Toyota can make a supercar which can last for as long as 150k with few minor problems
Porsche seems to make the cars like shit so they can make money repairing it for you. It’s that simple
Do some research. That simply isn't true
PORSCHE NUMBER ONE FROM GERMANY
Porsche the best car in the world
LAMBORGINI = AUDI - Do you know you driving AUDI from ITALY?
I know this and yes, Lamborghini is seriously the best brand out there. The Huracan is amazingly reliable as is the Gallardo. V12 Lambo's are quite sturdy, its just that parts are pricey. Porsche is an awesome brand nonetheless.
@@ECPP Audi technology and much better from FERRARI
German cars just have no soul look at their names 911 wtf ?? How sexy is 928 compared to
Alfa Romeo Quattro foligio?? Sounds like a great bj from 4 babes
IMS drive shaft
@@davidtracy9058 Oh do you drive driveshaft?
Both are crap when it comes to reliability.
Porsche o11s and Caymans are very reliable
Are you stupid? Do some research. Porsche is reliable
Corolla power all day
Lol a mans 0-60 in 14.3 sec
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@@carguyns4348 I agree
@@abinsaji4449 thanks
@@carguyns4348 man toyota dont make any good cars other than the land cruiser and the gt86 and the lexus lfa and the f sport
There’s no question that BMW IS SUPERIOR. Just ask nick Murray
I hear ya. He had quite the experience with his Porsche.
M3 only can go head to head with Honda CIVIK only
You dont like BMW ?
Hi, there is a 2015 x6m for sale at Bavaria Bmw right now, what do you think of that suv?
Awesome, I have driven the X5 M and know that it is a real powerhouse. The X6M has the right balance of aggressive looks and style mated to an angry engine. Makes for a fun drive.