This video here is proof: th-cam.com/video/KBwQWmIMVS4/w-d-xo.html If anyone watching this video planning on going the same route i did, i HIGHLY RECOMMEND you get a re-tune after modding your Scatpack. Although i see horsepower gains, it threw off my current tune and now i have dips of power throughout the powerband until I get it fixed
Airsoft Hemi ah okay. I was hoping to see some numbers with just the tuned throttle body, but I’ll be even more excited to see how much you’ll get from that cam! I’ve heard many things about mmx. Are you for sure going to go with an mmx? Or are you thinking about any other cams like a cam motion or something
@@Clutched392 Yes 100% going with MMX. I already bought the camshaft kit and mailed my factory PCM to get it unlocked so I can get a new HP tune done. But unfortunately I am running out of time since I will be on deployment soon so most my plans will have to wait until i get back
HEMIs biggest bolt on gain while NA is a cam 👌🏿 (up to 70+ HP). Very pricey though. Your whip is setup proper my dude. Excited for you to get your retune. 😁
Thats actually my next mod. I'm going to save up for a Camshaft kit, Intake Manifold and do the Re-Tune at the same time. So at that point I'll be FBO cammed/headers Scatpack and can see what kind of power it makes. The ultimate NA build minus the E85
@@Mr392Scat I'll look in to it. I usually buy my stuff from either Fast Hemis or Modern Muscle Extreme, so I'll do some more research first. Appreciate the feedback
Just bought me some long tube headers. I’m looking at buying that mmx vv2 max effort cam package. I’m trying to break that 500whp with my 2022 challenger shaker
Especially on E85, you will have no problem breaking that 500whp goal. I did with my Scatpack at I have the Version 1 of the MMX Max Effort Cam bro. Good build goals you have
@@brandonUwanawich954 both help noticeably. The thermostat helps a little for heatsoak but it's a band aid, the best thing is upgrading the cooling system.
@@brandonUwanawich954 what does warranty have to do with a catch can g. The point of a catch can is just to stop your motor from burning oil that you catch from the crankcase and not only that helps prevent build up in your intake manifold which is bound to happen. Not running a catch can doesn’t really hurt especially on a new car not much will happen but it’s always preferable to run a catch can
Everything will be minimal until you are willing to change pistons. Then the mods can take you far. I got a video of a Scatpack running a 9.56 in the quarter mile at Rockingham Dragway. A Challenger with the same mod ran a 9.6
Great video right to the point , thank you for sharing , besides the unlocked PCM what type of tuner do you use , and do you do the email tuning or take to your local performance shop? Thank you
I previously used Diablosport custom dyno tuning, but from now on I'll be using "HP tuner" because most shops tune with HP. So my factory PCM i mailed it in to get unlocked.
Dynocom Dynos read different than Dynojets. I just wanted to see before/after with those mods at the time. I now have a Cam as well pushing over 500whp on a dynojet dyno
@@AirsoftHemi nice man, same for me. I have a Stage 3 HRT cam/ Stainless power long tubes, colder plugs, new radiator, and 180 thermostat making just under 500 at the wheels. I'm considering a CAI and maybe throttle body with a retune to pick up just a few more HP, my challenger makes max power at 6700, do to the cam. stock was aroudn 6400, There really is nowhere left to go for the money besides piston and rods and a supercharger. but you are looking at another 20k to make all that happen at least in the west coast. I'll just keep mine NA, it gets plenty of rowdy and sounds awesome. 700+ hp is not streetable unless you have slicks on all the time in the summer, which i've also driven, I love my scatpack.
Another route for you if you’re into drag racing is a High Stall Torque Converter. It’s literally a cheat code that not many people talk about. I currently have one on order and will be doing some tests
Why the green catted mid pipes instead of the regular ones? I thought the green cats were for hellcats and higher HP applications? And any thoughts on ceramic coating the kooks for temp control under the hood ? These cars get crazy hot under the hood compared to anything else I’ve ever driven
If you go to the "Fast Hemis" website they have the description of the Green Catted Midpipes vs regular catted midpipes. It looked like the better of the two. I also have no heat sink issues
Did the temperature improve and is it better than a stock intake on scatpacks? Will I still get 15hp+ if I just install the intake or do I have to tune few other things?
The temperature on the hwy with the JLT CAI is almost always 3-5 degrees above ambient temperature, which is great. I can't remember the hwy intake temp with the stock airbox
I could only imagine the Hellcat lower airbox with a snorkel tube being comparable to the JLT CAI performance wise. The JLT also has a cutout where the hellcat snorkel tube would be at
Negative, I'm about to go on deployment so I'm going to wait until I return to throw a camshaft on there and get a tune. Most likely I'm putting the factory airbox back on as I came to hate the ricey/whooshy sound of the aftermarket Cold Air Intake
What is the difference between the $300 throttle body and the $450 throttle body. There both cnc ported 87mm but the $450 one says hemi in the title. I have a 2021 scat pack so idk which one to go with.
Speaking out of speculation, I'm pretty sure the $450 throttle body is probably just a sales gimmick. Some automatically assume that just because a product costs more it performs better.
So the scat pack is supposed to be 485 hp to the crank ik its supposed to be less to the wheel but is it really the much lower or is there a way to pull more hp im asking because next year i want to get a scat pack
Ehh, I don't think throttle body spacer would help out too much. I feel it's just too small of a part to do anything especially after getting an actual larger throttle body. Most likely the route I'm going with is Camshaft upgrade and E85 as soon as I get back from deployment
@@AirsoftHemi yeah I know the pcm would but can always keep the original and throw it back in like nothing happened lol thanks for the answer appreciate that
Those numbers are way off. There's no way that car is making 512lbft to the wheels with those mods, plus the rwhp is way too low. My 18 Scat made 445rwhp and 451rwtq with a tune, 180 stat and hellcat lower airbox with a factory Hellcat paper filter.
It's a dynocom system not a dynojet, so they read different numbers. On a dynojet I made 460whp and 464 torque with just LT headers, midpipes, and a tune
Scatpacks are 485 horsepower stock to the crank (not wheel horsepower). Wheel horsepower will always read lower because it shows how much power your car is truly producing after drivetrain loss and other factors.
@@danr8313 My apologies. After re-confirming, it actually is the Red Oiled filter. Per MMX website though, either oiled or dry are both proven and popular options.
Yes, an unlocked PCM is required to tune your Scatpack. After getting the CAI and 87mm Throttle Body, i did not get a tune done so the car is not performing at optimal capability until i do
Thanks, I'm GOING BIG. I already purchased a Camshaft upgrade and going to get an intake manifold. Once I get back from deployment and get those parts installed and a Custom Tune , I am going to be Full bolt-on Cammed Scatpack. Can't wait!
With the JLT CAI, the intake Temps is always about 3 degrees above ambient which is pretty good. Idk how the Temps were stock, but it definitely is NOT a "hot" air intake. And yes I plan on keeping the CAI. Not really much noticeable difference without a tune
This video here is proof: th-cam.com/video/KBwQWmIMVS4/w-d-xo.html
If anyone watching this video planning on going the same route i did, i HIGHLY RECOMMEND you get a re-tune after modding your Scatpack. Although i see horsepower gains, it threw off my current tune and now i have dips of power throughout the powerband until I get it fixed
Did you ever get it retuned? If so then what horsepower are you at with the tune?
@@Clutched392 No re-tune yet. I'm throwing a MMX camshaft in there and planning to get the tune done at the same time.
Airsoft Hemi ah okay. I was hoping to see some numbers with just the tuned throttle body, but I’ll be even more excited to see how much you’ll get from that cam! I’ve heard many things about mmx. Are you for sure going to go with an mmx? Or are you thinking about any other cams like a cam motion or something
@@Clutched392 Yes 100% going with MMX. I already bought the camshaft kit and mailed my factory PCM to get it unlocked so I can get a new HP tune done. But unfortunately I am running out of time since I will be on deployment soon so most my plans will have to wait until i get back
Airsoft Hemi aw :/ well we will all be waiting for new content when you return! Mad respect for you 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸. How long are you going to be gone?
You got straight to the point
Beautiful car, good information. Straight to the point. Subbed.
When you showcase your car you gotta remember to turn the sick headlights on. And DAYYUUMMM your car sounds so nice
Noted lol, I'll keep that in mind for future reference
Great no nonsense content 👍🏽😎
HEMIs biggest bolt on gain while NA is a cam 👌🏿 (up to 70+ HP). Very pricey though. Your whip is setup proper my dude. Excited for you to get your retune. 😁
Thats actually my next mod. I'm going to save up for a Camshaft kit, Intake Manifold and do the Re-Tune at the same time. So at that point I'll be FBO cammed/headers Scatpack and can see what kind of power it makes. The ultimate NA build minus the E85
@@AirsoftHemi it will be glorious! If you really wanted to go all out, stroker kit, maybe to a 426 haha.
@@Mr392Scat I'll look in to it. I usually buy my stuff from either Fast Hemis or Modern Muscle Extreme, so I'll do some more research first. Appreciate the feedback
Just bought me some long tube headers. I’m looking at buying that mmx vv2 max effort cam package. I’m trying to break that 500whp with my 2022 challenger shaker
Especially on E85, you will have no problem breaking that 500whp goal. I did with my Scatpack at I have the Version 1 of the MMX Max Effort Cam bro. Good build goals you have
Link to your front splitter please I love this one
Bottom Line Up Front (BLUF). Thank you for sharing!
Nice man thanks for the information
Where you get that Scat Pack Bee?
Welcome to America's finest city baby!! Car scene growing here💪🏎💨
Catch can and 180 thermostat are a must in these cars.
Idc about the catch can right now cause I’m under warranty but does the thermostat really help cause after 4/5 runs my cars heat soaked
@@brandonUwanawich954 both help noticeably. The thermostat helps a little for heatsoak but it's a band aid, the best thing is upgrading the cooling system.
No, they are not a must, but rather a placebo.
@@brandonUwanawich954 what does warranty have to do with a catch can g. The point of a catch can is just to stop your motor from burning oil that you catch from the crankcase and not only that helps prevent build up in your intake manifold which is bound to happen. Not running a catch can doesn’t really hurt especially on a new car not much will happen but it’s always preferable to run a catch can
@@fiys567 I meant idc cause the engine was under warranty lol if anything got fked up
Great numbers you put down on the dyno nice setup for sure!
Thanks bro
Everything will be minimal until you are willing to change pistons. Then the mods can take you far.
I got a video of a Scatpack running a 9.56 in the quarter mile at Rockingham Dragway. A Challenger with the same mod ran a 9.6
just pistons?
Just changing pistons you will lose power due to the lower compression, you have to add boost when changing pistons
What pistons, & what work did you do to support this or any other mods?
Thanks. Good info.
Great video right to the point , thank you for sharing , besides the unlocked PCM what type of tuner do you use , and do you do the email tuning or take to your local performance shop? Thank you
I previously used Diablosport custom dyno tuning, but from now on I'll be using "HP tuner" because most shops tune with HP. So my factory PCM i mailed it in to get unlocked.
What happened with the original dyno of the full exhaust system? They definitely said you had 460hp in that video
Different dyno system with different measurements (Dynocom =/= Dynojet)
the almost 500 torque at the wheels makes absolutely no sense lol. The last thing you need honestly is a stage 3 cam. and retune.
Dynocom Dynos read different than Dynojets. I just wanted to see before/after with those mods at the time. I now have a Cam as well pushing over 500whp on a dynojet dyno
@@AirsoftHemi nice man, same for me. I have a Stage 3 HRT cam/ Stainless power long tubes, colder plugs, new radiator, and 180 thermostat making just under 500 at the wheels. I'm considering a CAI and maybe throttle body with a retune to pick up just a few more HP, my challenger makes max power at 6700, do to the cam. stock was aroudn 6400, There really is nowhere left to go for the money besides piston and rods and a supercharger. but you are looking at another 20k to make all that happen at least in the west coast. I'll just keep mine NA, it gets plenty of rowdy and sounds awesome. 700+ hp is not streetable unless you have slicks on all the time in the summer, which i've also driven, I love my scatpack.
Another route for you if you’re into drag racing is a High Stall Torque Converter. It’s literally a cheat code that not many people talk about. I currently have one on order and will be doing some tests
Why the green catted mid pipes instead of the regular ones? I thought the green cats were for hellcats and higher HP applications? And any thoughts on ceramic coating the kooks for temp control under the hood ? These cars get crazy hot under the hood compared to anything else I’ve ever driven
If you go to the "Fast Hemis" website they have the description of the Green Catted Midpipes vs regular catted midpipes. It looked like the better of the two. I also have no heat sink issues
Did the temperature improve and is it better than a stock intake on scatpacks? Will I still get 15hp+ if I just install the intake or do I have to tune few other things?
The temperature on the hwy with the JLT CAI is almost always 3-5 degrees above ambient temperature, which is great. I can't remember the hwy intake temp with the stock airbox
@@AirsoftHemi thank you for the info 🙌
Would you get more HP with a Hellcat Lower airbox and snorkel tube? That’s a lot for just a few mods
I could only imagine the Hellcat lower airbox with a snorkel tube being comparable to the JLT CAI performance wise. The JLT also has a cutout where the hellcat snorkel tube would be at
Very informative thanks!
Anytime man!
Good video!!!💯
I made 450 straight pipe only no tune on a dyno jet
Dynojets read different than Dynocoms and Mustang Dynos
Very nice. Were you able to tune it at sea level yet? Wondering if, any extra HP/TQ gain after the tune
Negative, I'm about to go on deployment so I'm going to wait until I return to throw a camshaft on there and get a tune. Most likely I'm putting the factory airbox back on as I came to hate the ricey/whooshy sound of the aftermarket Cold Air Intake
What is the difference between the $300 throttle body and the $450 throttle body. There both cnc ported 87mm but the $450 one says hemi in the title. I have a 2021 scat pack so idk which one to go with.
Speaking out of speculation, I'm pretty sure the $450 throttle body is probably just a sales gimmick. Some automatically assume that just because a product costs more it performs better.
@@AirsoftHemi got to look at the shipping date it might say ship out today or might be on back order
Do u know what throttle body u got installed
2013-2023 5.7L 6.4L SRT CNC Ported Throttle Body 87mm by MMX
@@AirsoftHemi ty for the reply appreciate that
So the scat pack is supposed to be 485 hp to the crank ik its supposed to be less to the wheel but is it really the much lower or is there a way to pull more hp im asking because next year i want to get a scat pack
Only way to pull in more horsepower is with a tune or with aftermarket parts. Scatpacks are normally 420whp on a Dynojet system
@@AirsoftHemi alright thanks brother cause i just got my 2020scatpack yesterday its such a beast
Question not being nosey but what did that 32 hp cost included mods and dyno and tune just asking
$299 for the throttle body, $299 for the CAI. Unlocked PCM would be apprx $500 and a tune would be apprx $400-800
@@AirsoftHemi ok appreciate that good start 👍 up just starting on mine
If staying N/A, I would recommend LT headers and/or camshaft with a tune. Simple bolt-ons don't really give much real world performance to these 392s
Think about throttle body spacer,some say it gives gains,I don't know?true or false how about ripp coils?
Ehh, I don't think throttle body spacer would help out too much. I feel it's just too small of a part to do anything especially after getting an actual larger throttle body.
Most likely the route I'm going with is Camshaft upgrade and E85 as soon as I get back from deployment
It does ZERO!
What brand throttle body you get ?
MMX 87mm Throttle Body
Do these mods void warranty?
A Cold Air Intake shouldn't. I don't know if the throttle body would void warranty. An aftermarket PCM for tuning will definitely void warranty though
@@AirsoftHemi yeah I know the pcm would but can always keep the original and throw it back in like nothing happened lol thanks for the answer appreciate that
Those numbers are way off. There's no way that car is making 512lbft to the wheels with those mods, plus the rwhp is way too low. My 18 Scat made 445rwhp and 451rwtq with a tune, 180 stat and hellcat lower airbox with a factory Hellcat paper filter.
It's a dynocom system not a dynojet, so they read different numbers. On a dynojet I made 460whp and 464 torque with just LT headers, midpipes, and a tune
Dope video bro definitely hate when videos are drawn-out
Thanks man, and they usually do that for the ad revenue. Used to be 10 minutes for TH-cam to maximize revenue
Bro, I’m confused.....I thought these things cars have 485 out the factory? How are the numbers lower with after market parts?
Scatpacks are 485 horsepower stock to the crank (not wheel horsepower). Wheel horsepower will always read lower because it shows how much power your car is truly producing after drivetrain loss and other factors.
Did you get the oiled filter or dry?
I got it dry
@@AirsoftHemi how did you find the red filter in dry?? I can only find the dry in white.
@@danr8313 My apologies. After re-confirming, it actually is the Red Oiled filter. Per MMX website though, either oiled or dry are both proven and popular options.
If u get cold air intale do u need to tune it? Afterwards?
It's not required, but I highly recommend a tune due to it changing your Air/Fuel ratio
They come factory with a CAI, you won't gain any more HP with an aftermarket.
That boy is loud!!!!
Do you feel like it’s worth getting the 87mm throttle body
Without a tune, it's not worth it
Yo bro did you have to unlock your pcm yo tune your scat pack ?
Yes, an unlocked PCM is required to tune your Scatpack. After getting the CAI and 87mm Throttle Body, i did not get a tune done so the car is not performing at optimal capability until i do
Good content bro! Next mod should be a oil catch can. Not for performance but it will help protect your motor
Thanks, I'm GOING BIG. I already purchased a Camshaft upgrade and going to get an intake manifold. Once I get back from deployment and get those parts installed and a Custom Tune , I am going to be Full bolt-on Cammed Scatpack. Can't wait!
@@AirsoftHemi can’t wait to see it bro. Just subscribed💪🏽 & thank you for your service
@@AirsoftHemi and you’ll be at sea level. Your car will be up another 80whp once you’re done with the build.
Do you plan on keeping the jlt intake in the car as long as you own it? And any noticeable difference? Lower temps?
With the JLT CAI, the intake Temps is always about 3 degrees above ambient which is pretty good. Idk how the Temps were stock, but it definitely is NOT a "hot" air intake. And yes I plan on keeping the CAI. Not really much noticeable difference without a tune
Good shit bro seen you on Coronado, look up grito garage on FB. Come chill with us sometime !
Yeah sure thing. I'm down
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32 hp with hood open...close it and see the result
I don’t chase numbers. All I care about is how it performs in a realistic scenario
Dangit man i thought i was first well second
Lmao you were close 🤣 Maybe next time xD
E85 upgrade.
That would just require injectors and a tune?
From what i hear plug&play, min 20hp.
Puts that particular kit is $800 lol.
@@Bigshak80 Dope, sounds good. San Diego has reliable access to E85 as well. I will definitely consider doing this. Thanks
Your warranty voided?
These mods although minor can result in you losing your warranty. CAI, probably not. Throttle body, a little riskier. Getting a tune = no warranty
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Well done 👏🏾👏🏾