As an experienced visitor to Thailand , and Thai ladies you were being scammed. Never try to justify 😢 the actions of your THAI girlfriend so you can continue the relationship. A red flag or red card is just that game over.
marry yourself. f'k, pay 4 it and stay 'LOOSE'. U'll live life to the very end avoiding, courts, lawyers, excessive brain damage and ending up penniless. never trust a WOMEN.
Just had a Thai girl acquaintance accept a date to go out. But she rejected the "movie" suggestion and replied, "Let's just go shopping and relax". No thanks. Canceled. The word STUPID isn't written on my forehead.
Too many RED FLAGS with this one. Her switching from abusive to lovey dovey messages has psycho all over it. Don't fall for it. And no more free passes or benefit of the doubts, she's BAD news. You deserve and can do better. Best of luck to you.
Do yourself a favour, meet one in your own country, well educated and meet her family in Thailand before you commit to her. I done this and never regretted marrying her, been married over 11 years, no issues with her or her family, good luck, the right one is there mate.
I lived with a Thai woman for abut a year. I always told my friends to live 24/7 with a woman for at least three months. They would get tired of acting by then and the warts would come out. After about a year with no problems, I asked her if she wanted to get married. She looked at me in an odd way and asked "Why"? That was about 23 years ago. We did get legally married and had no party or family involved. I should add that she was 35 years old when I met her. She was never married and had no children. She did let me know in no uncertain terms that if I ever decided to return to the US, I would be going alone. She did tell me that no Thai man would ever marry her because she had a mind of her own. She DID and STILL has a mind of her own. I would never want a clinging vine jealous woman for a wife.
EVERY man who has ever been scammed by a Thai girl in the industry has said, “she is different.” Every. Single. One. They are masters at this game. You don’t have a chance. She tried to completely fleece you. Run. I live in Bangkok.
She is definitely a scammer, I’ve been through similar situation when I was trying to find excuses to my abusing girlfriend, now, after I got rid of the feelings, it is so clear that she was a scammer, but I didn’t see the flags at the time because of emotional attachment. My advice to you is to block her and cut all contact with her. Good luck to you in finding true love with another woman.
It's the same dynamic people find themselves in with narcissists and other abusive personalities. Most narcissistic abusers are not always terrible. If they were dealing with these relationships would be much easier to walk away from because if the person were always terrible then there would be nothing to stay around for and you wouldn't be so confused and conflicted. It gives people hope when that hope gets ripped away from you The fact that narcissists are not terrible all the time can seem like evidence that things are changing or that they're getting better. It is extremely misleading because it's not the end of the problem, it's part of it the idealized/devalue cycle.
When people meet the pathologically narcissistic person, it often seems as if they've met their soul mate. They are everything you ever wanted. This can continue for quite a while. Love-bombing often occurs during this time and the victim - who may be starved on some level for love and validation - finally believes they will be loved the way they have always wanted to be loved. Red flags may pop up here and there, but because the person is so hopeful and enamored of the narcissist, these red flags are ignored or rationalized away. This marks the first time the person allowed their fantasy of the narcissist to dominate reality. They knew something was not right about the narcissist or the situation but they actively and intentionally chose to ignore it or not to act on it. This happens many more times as the gulf between what the narcissist actually is and what the victim wants them to be gets larger. As the idealization phase winds down, these red flags become screaming red-alert alarms. But the victim, still wrapped in their fantasy of the narcissist, chooses to believe that the kind, decent persona that they like best is who the pathologically narcissistic person really is. There is no real truth to this, and no real reason for it other than this is just what the victim wants to believe. The pathologically narcissistic person also would like to believe that they themselves are a great person and this is just an aberration in their character, and in this way, both the narcissist and the victim convince each other that this is the truth. Because the victim is looking for ways to explain this aberration, this deviation of character, they unwittingly hand the narcissist all manner of excuses for their own behavior. The narcissist will then fall on these excuses and throw them back at the other person every time their bad behavior shows up. In this way, the fantasy of the narcissist is preserved, the victim is shamed and the narcissist is perpetually excused of any and all wrong doing. Life goes on as it has, often with the victim suffering terribly and never realizing that the entire situation is predicated on a false belief. The nice persona they like best is not who the narcissist really is. The abusive persona they hate or fear is not who the narcissist really is, either. Both of these so-called personas are fake in their own way. The true identity of the pathologically narcissistic person is a shattered, underdeveloped being that is unable to interact with the world. It is often not accessible, even by the narcissist themselves, and the narcissist's entire life is dedicated to simultaneously denying and protecting this underdeveloped self. Many people believe that the narcissist's kind persona was developed to hide the abusive one. In truth, they are both personas of sorts and they were both created to protect the true self. The kind persona faces the world. It is the superficial projection of who the narcissist wants to be and hopes to convince others they are. It is as perfect as possible, in the hopes that if it can be perfect, it will be valued and loved. The abusive persona stands "behind" the kind one as a shield, or as a sort of buffer between the underdeveloped self and the world. If you see beyond the superficial kind persona, this is usually what you will encounter. The idea of being exposed is very threatening to the narcissistic person, because they believe that being exposed means they will be devalued and abandoned. It threatens their self-worth directly. This is why you see the rage when this happens. Any mistake, any perceived failure or slight on their part can trigger the rage and that is why: because they feel that they are going to be exposed as not perfect and therefore not valuable. Lurking behind this rage and fear is the core belief - sometimes subconscious and sometimes acknowledged - that they are defective, worthless and unlovable. They fear exposure of this perhaps more than anything else. Many of them would quite literally rather die than face the shame of exposure, and they have spent their whole lives trying to prevent this from happening. Pathologically narcissistic people's entire lives are devoted to trying to prove to themselves that they have value, and other people are required to buy into their act in order for them to do so. If someone sees behind the mask, so to speak, they are not going to buy into it. The abuse and the rage are the narcissist's effort to get people to back off and stop trying to be close to them, or to be perfect and fall in line so that narcissist's image of themselves is not in danger. They cannot tolerate that. So they rage or manipulate or freeze you out, give you the silent treatment or go into hysterics or any number of things in an effort to prevent that from happening. They don't want you poking around back there behind the curtain and they do these things to try to get you to stop. It's like putting an 80lb. attack dog outside of a door you don't want anyone to enter. Narcissists generally do not have any actual understanding of this dynamic. Their behavior is all reaction based on emotional triggers like a reflex. In truth, the pathologically narcissistic person's identity is unstable at the very best and often it is entirely nonexistent. These different personas that they portray are not real personas because usually they are not fully developed and lack any sort of true depth. They are generally one-dimensional, reflecting only one emotional "side" of the narcissistic person and that's it. They are not cohesive and do not coexist the way we understand different aspects of a person's personality to coexist. Most people have different aspects of themselves and these generally exist more or less in harmony in the person, creating one unified whole. In pathologically narcissistic people, this is not the case. The aspects are fractured and separate. They've been compartmentalized, often creating a person that appears to have more than one personality. They don't, but because of their inability to integrate these different aspects of themselves together successfully, this can result in what we refer to as a Jekyll and Hyde dynamic or presentation. This is why the victim has such a hard time letting their fantasy of the narcissist go. When the narcissistic person is "good," they are all good. And when they are bad, they are all bad. This is called splitting. The victim - for whatever reason they have of their own - truly wants to believe that the narcissistic person is good. The narcissistic person wants the victim to believe this too, because then there are no threats to their own self-worth. It's true that narcissists misrepresent themselves, but this does not explain why the victim stays in the relationship long after they realize that the narcissist is not who they pretend to be. The victim often intentionally chooses to believe in the narcissist's false self, even after it has been established that this is not who they are. This is because the victim has a fantasy of the narcissistic person that they do not want to let go of. There is a refusal to accept the reality of the situation here, and this is understandable but it's also hurtful. This unwillingness to accept the true nature of the relationship and the narcissist is responsible for most of the pain caused by these types of relationships. Of course someone wants to believe the person they care about is a good person and cares about them in return. However, it becomes less simple when we take into consideration that the person may been given evidence that this is not true yet still chooses to believe it. It becomes a question of why. Why is this relationship or what it represents so important that a person will ignore evidence that it is unfair, abusive or unhealthy in order to stay in it? Is there a trauma bond? Is there a issue with the victim's self-worth or past trauma that needs to be addressed? What are you getting or hoping to get out of the relationship and why is it so important? And perhaps the most important question, are you able to accept the reality of the relationship and what that means? The good thing about these kinds of questions is that though they may be painful, people usually know the answers to them and once they start looking, they can see the connection. Usually the root of these relationships is the need for validation from others because of a nagging feeling that the victim is not good enough or not lovable. That is usually the fantasy: I will finally do the right thing, say the right thing, behave the right way and it will unlock the love that I want and feel I deserve. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be loved. There is something wrong with not accepting the reality of a situation, especially when it's hurting you. Acceptance is very important here. Letting go of unrealistic or fantasy expectations is the first step in that direction. Sometimes just acknowledging that the expectations are unrealistic can take some of their power away. Making lists contrasting fantasy beliefs vs. reality of the situation can also be very helpful. When we know better, we do better.
Normal Thai girls don’t post their what’s app numbers on their profile. Run away. She has thousands of guys on a string. What is her job? I bet he does not even know. She has tons of guys.
I learnt after I was scammed I have bought airline ticket for Thai lady to come to Australia she not only scammed me she was putting some tables in my coffee but I don't know what is going I started getting confused disoriented depressed than she asked me for money so will send to Thailand to her sister to pay off her credit cards I said no book you return flight ✈️ go back I found why I was sick after check her suitcase I found stacks of tables I asked her what are those tables for she said her sleeping tables she lied that is what made me so confused disoriented depressed and so on, in the end I found out she even couldn't speak English the scammers were speaking for her through earpiece plus after snuck tablet in my coffee I was sleeping at night like dead people that she injected microchip in my back so the scammers criminals on their mobile phones tracking and listening 🎧 when I talk to others people I didn't report to police because my Ex wife is boss for almost all ladies especially in SE Asia police know about her I did report for some other cases but they did nothing about it so they is pointless reporting scammers long story must make it short my advice is not to drink or eat in places you not 💯% sure about you know my food and drinks actually I was poisoned in Thailand Bali Indonesia Kuala Lumpur Malaysia at Airport in City restaurants, since that happened to me I eat in places like self service and unopened drinks One last thing believe me when you are speaking to SE Asia ladies you are not talking with them you are talking with scammers....
Yes, tell three different guys that you will be buying the same necklace, buy it once, and have the money from the two others. But this is typical of all Thai girls. The moment they are short on money, they go and sell off their Jewellery. The western way of thinking is that when you are debt-free or have your debts under control, you go and buy discretionary items such as jewellery. Thai’s can be so myopic and think so short term, that they would prefer short term gratification, as opposed to the long term satisfaction you would knowing you have earned this due to your having worked hard, made sacrifices and saved for it, and showing you have built stable wealth…
@@stormstereo Oh man! I don't know how people could just buy a place without looking at all of the paperwork and talking to the real estate agent. And if I'm buying you a car... you had better believe it's going to be in my name.
Get rid of her man. She is just playing with your emotions and is a scammer. Online you get only scammers. Boots on the ground for a long time is only the way
Just dump her! Age isn't "important" in Thailand... even at your age, you can find a beautiful 20 yo girl to spend quality time with, just don't mix pleasure with "love"!
Age is important even in Thailand.....The older you are the higher the chance that you will get scammed....Thai girls don't fall in love with old men in 2024...The young ones run away or just do shortime...The older ones are looking money for their kids and relatives.... Maybe 20 yrs ago thing where different people know less and where more innocent....
60 is young. When you get to 77 that kinda makes one say,Oh I’m older! That’s me now. 😂 However I think your Thai friend was playing you. You got away safe.
Cut while you are ahead. No excuse for DISHONESTY. She has nothing to lose by marrying you. You have nothing to gain by marrying her. In this case, the grass is definitely greener on the other side, so to speak. RUN...FAST
Definitely a Freelancer, 100,000 views on dating site. Isaan girls you can never trust. Gold shop that quickly. She is just out for your money. She was just playing the long game. She played on your emotions. Run guy, run you would be a fool in you ever married. I don’t understand how men come to Thailand and are so fooled. I have lived here nearly 30 years on and off. I have seen it all including me in the early days, but I realized the game she was playing and call her out on it. Fortunately I was one of the lucky ones. I have friends fooled the same and they lost out big time with money, marriage, children, divorce etc.
I'm happily married to a regular woman from Bangkok. I do not have any money, and my wife is with me for love and not for money! We do live in Sweden. We do occasionally help her family out, but only a couple of thousands of bath at the time. Her family accepts me even though I do not have any money to show off! Look for how your woman treats other men. As she does to them, she will do to you! This woman has exploited God knows how many Farang men! Do you want such a woman? My wife always treats everybody well, and this includes me!
There were to many RED FLAGS for me in this relationship... Once she began asking for STUFF... I would've executed an *EXIT, STAGE LEFT and disappeared...
I remember a beautiful bargirl I met at a soi cowboy bar. Her name is also May. Although I did barfine her a couple times, she always felt distant. Bedroom gun was fine, but she just seemed like she was holding back. That just made it more interesting for me. So after all my verbal bullshit failed, I decided to go all in (so to speak) she was much younger and figuring that it was the age thing, I went shopping for a younger style. I had my haircut. And I bought a bottle of wine and flowers. The wine was for the room and I had originally planned to walk in w the flowers, but then I saw something even better. One of the street vendors sold fake jewelry that was very good quality. I found an engagement ring that had a nice big rock on it. It looked real enough to me. Honestly, this thing looked real enough to me. And since my verbal bullshit included me proposing to her, I figured this would go perfectly w the joke. I spliced the rose petals on the bed, dimmed the lights and put the wine on ice. The room was. Set so looking 20 days younger at least, I decided to head out and give it one last try. After juicing her up w a couple drinks and charming her w my bs, I decided it was time to barfine one more time. So I popped the question as I normally did, only this time instead of the bhat shipped into a ring, I showed her the one I bought that even came in a cute little box. I never seen a girl light up so much so fast. Went back to the room and this time she held nothing back. I kept wondering if she knew that it was a fake ring but I never told her. The next day however, she blocked me from everything. When I stopped in one last time, thinking we’d have a good laugh, she just gave me the cold shoulder. Oh well. I just hit the next bar and had a good laugh myself.
Don't get in to long term relationships, it can get in to complications and troubles. Try consulting an old westner in Thailand who had already tried similar long-term relationships.
My girlfriend is 33 and I am 75 We are happy and everyday our love get stronger ,you are not happy in your marriage so I would leave and seek happiness .so goodluck and remember life to short Les from Australia
I would be so scared to go back to Thailand, not to mention you've been scammed by her. She's very professional! My advice, dont ever meet her again. You can go to Thailand for vacation! You must make sure you're done with her.
I think this is not the end of the road for you . I am four years old than you and almost in the same position as you. Why not try in the Phillipines . I met one from there six months ago and planned to visit her early next year
Without watching the video... in the first 16 seconds... I can answer the guy's question.... if you have any doubts whether or not your girl is scamming you... run, don't walk. There's always another girl you will meet. And maybe, just maybe, you will know that she's the one for you. If you have the slightest concern if you're being scammed, trust your gut and run away as fast as you can and don't look back.
I agree with most of the other comments. I know an older woman who is in her early 50's and she wants me to come meet her and be with her but we almost never talk about money. I don't believe that a dowry that large should be a condition to marriage. I say that because even if you came up with the money, you would then be expected to pay for many other things and it wouldn't stop until you run out of money....
at the moment i am going through a similar situation with my Thai girlfriend. 😢 my girlfriend doesn't want to come to Australia. she wants to start her own beauti salon in her village. she introduced me to her family and relatives as well. i have been her home for more than ten days and leaving tomorrow. i am trying my best to control my emotions and feelings..even i saw few different red flags,i love her unconditionally..i think money is the key figure behind All these stories.
Even 1 million would be considered movie star prices. All my Thai colleagues at work paid only 100,000 bht and they got their money back after the wedding.
you maintain not only her but also her intire famely . way too mutch money . blocking the other guys dont help , che just unblock them when you are not there . you will be living in constant fear . the neckless should told you averything about her . there's a good chance che has more money in the bank then you . guys using her and che uses guys .
Question should be asked differently: Do you let your Thai girlfriend scam you? Asia is different guys, be smart or get ruined. If you aren't smart bad girls will ruin you and good girls will lose respect.
It’s quite obvious that she is showing a great interest to your wallet ! One thing I want you to think about, ho is in control of your Wallet ?? You are !! If you find it in your heart that you want to spend money on her, do that ! But never ever lose control of your finances. I guarantee you that if she is a scammer, she will be back for more, no matter how much money you pour on her now !! That I can 100 percent guarantee !! 😊
When I meet a new girl in Thailand I always tell them, Up to you. When they ask for a dowery I say , That's funny, my parents also want a dowery which is usually twice as much as what her parents want. If she is serious about me she would have no problem paying. If you can get 10 or more Thailand woman who like you you can make a good living.
Its better to be single! Nobody just died off being alone. Be strong guys have purpose in life. To many woman are fake these times( men too) stand your ground. She is never your its just your turn with her.
The fact that she didnt want a pre-nup says a lot. If she can't get your money up-front with sin-sod and gold, she can get half of everything through a divorce. I think this chick does this for a living. Don't get emotionally involved with a Thai girl until you live there full time. It's really quite simple.
Her anger and subsequent bargaining positions of "forget the gold and money" were a reaction to her losing face and trying to keep you from leaving. But you didn't throw away anything but a lifetime of potential heartbreak and suspicion, IMHO. She was on the game, man. And she would have stayed on the game even after you married her. The "requests" for money and gold would have returned, and they would likely have kept getting bigger and more frequent. There is no bottom to the greed of a bargirl*, or her family (I noticed her mom asked for more money even after you gave them a very generous sum). There is also the greed of the inevitable Thai boyfriend/husband these scammers almost always have in the shadows. Take the good memories from your holiday, and consider yourself wiser and not that much poorer. More experienced foreigners have fared much worse in Thailand. *(I wasn't sure what she did for a living, but for all intents and purposes, she's acting like a bargirl, so I'm calling her one).
jesus christ mate, that's every mistake in the book. no worries, 40-year-old mays are two-a-penny, even if you're 60. watch more of these videos, learn the game, and try to find someone semi-normal. it's not difficult, just keep your wits about you.
Once a man give a very expensive dowry gift to a woman , all leverage is with the woman , because she can simply disappear with expensive dowry gift +not marry him , or she could file for divorce 5 minutes after the marriage, and then disappear with the very expensive dowry gift, leaving the man with empty bank account , and a broken heart and emotional and financial pain .
I felt bad for listening this is too much to bear! Block her and move on... Continuing by talking with her it would never give yourself a chance to see the bright future by giving yourself to see another woman that definitely belongs to you that will give you the genuinity of deep connection to be your soulmate... Goodluck for your search.... Move forward and move on just explore and travel in different country to see and find what your looking at... In an instant to see the least by meeting in some locals in the country for you to enjoy and have a lifetime experience.
Marriage dowry isn't really a thing, even amongst most Thais today...it's not required. If you're willing to give the parents a dowry, then consider it a gift...nothing more.
Trust me on this she is bipolar and she’s only after your money, you have it away too quickly and should’ve stood your ground. Asking for 6 mil sin sod is outrageous, she’s in her 40’s she’d be lucky to 100k, don’t fall for it she sees you as her ATM card, I’m sorry to say all this to you but it’s the hard truth and I wish you all the best
She may not be outright scamming, but it's obviously not going to be a happy marriage. At best there would be constant financial conflict, which would ruin any happiness within a couple years.
The Thai girls Family like to show off to all the neighbours in the village the Sinsod payment they have received from their daughters farang husband. This lifts the social standing of her parents in the village. But it’s good that you had the ability to look into her phone , as this gave you all the answers you needed to put your doubts to rest. Sound like she was going to commit to playing the long game by coming to the UK, getting arrived & permanent residency, then divorce you and take 50% of your assets….
Lived in Thailand 20 years, you're being used. NEVER spend BIG right away. Geez, Bt6,000 for the first dinner? Take her someplace local, no frills, Bt500 and see how she acts. No money for apartment, parents, etc. Pay for dinner dates, movies, etc. No expensive travel. And NO GOLD! Stay for minimum 6 months and see whether she treats you like a boyfriend or an ATM.
I'm sorry ,after you found out she was scamming other guys on her phone, you should have done an exit there and then. Mate, she will say the sweetest things to you and make you forget what has happened, and then she'll do things behind your back when you have already put plans in places which will piss you off big time. Once this things happens there will be no stoping and then back to her way of getting money out of you making you feel happy. I would say leave her and find yourself a new girl don't buy or take them to fancy restaurants because once they see that lifestyle you are screwed. I always say there are plantey more fish in the sea, she's not the only one. But before you get totally taken to the cleaners delete her numbers and block her get back on the dating app.make more connections and see how it goes but remember if they start asking within a few days or weeks for gold or money leave them start again.Yes you will find one out there but when it's anybody guess and best of luck. I love your story's on here and the background video as you walk along the different soi's telling the story. Keep it buddy. 👍👍🙏🙏
The dowry is a joke, to buy your lady from her family is obserd. Let them keep her and go to another country where everyone isn't a scam artist to find a real wife!
1. Your tests are not vetting the womans values just checking if she is a catfish. 2. You didn't let her pay for food when you had payed for other things. You presented yourself as the atm. Don't do that. You set the stage for being the wallet yourself and didn't set boundaries. You are not a butterfly in the wind you should man up and set boundaries early on in the relationship to stay congruent. If you had presented yourself as an atm in the beginning and later on you want to flip it it's gonna make you look disingenuine and fake. You have to do this from the beginning not lure women in with money and then say muh golddigger. 3. 55000 for a whole dowry is not too overboard and it is tradition. If the dowry stays under 2k I don't see the problem. I payed 150 Euro dowry once but other country. 4. Obviously she turned out being a scammer in the end. I think your vetting process was really bad you need to improve or this will happen to you again just like that. You are letting too many things go maybe because you have underlying self esteem issues. 5. You offered the parents money even though they didnt ask for it. Would you charge people money for being a guest at your house? keep your money for yourself. 6. This woman is a liar, scammer and cheater as you seem to have said. Are you aware that there are more people on the planet than you can ever talk to in a 100 years?
When a starting relationship has so many pitfalls, then you have enough reasons to stop. A loving relationship will normally go without all these obstacles and unbelievable wishes of a woman. The problem is. As an honest and empathetic man, he sells his trust and his soul to a woman he is so proud of. Then he expects the same reaction. If the love is real, then a relationship will become full-fledged. Without having to walk on eggshells. But if you see that so much is going wrong, then there are enough red flags. I will never want a woman who is in the media to share her privacy with the world. It will never go well. Too many contacts do not bring a good relationship.
Funny with foreign guys trying to find economically independent non bargirls in Thailand. Complaining about supporting a future thai wife is equally stupid. It’s scammers like this guy that make genuine thaiwomen put higher demand of sincerity from guys. Married to an Isaanwoman myself that I met online I realized just how much a woman like her has to sacrifice only to go for a vacation with a potential man. On the flip side: A non wealthy thaiwoman that doesn’t need help even in the beginning is a huge red flag. Probably means she has other ways of income, we know what that is..
He overthinks too much. He got scammed but still the Thai woman could "Love him" in Thai way. But at the end he would just lose his *money* and his mind.
Don't turn your back and walk away from this lady who has declared her love for you .... RUN, then RUN some more. Do not look back. Do not test her, or ever communicate with her. I guarantee she is far more experienced than you at this game. This is zero-sum game that you can't win.
Block this woman , they are only after your money. Find someone that is a permanent resident in your own country. Your experience ls happening all the time. Don't play their game.
You dodged a bullet to the head. This girl has SCAM written all over her. Even if she were to be your wife (HUGE MISTAKE) she would be draining your wallet dry every month. The minute you run out of money, she'll be gone. Consider yourself very, very, lucky to have been able to get away relatively clean.
I know so many Thai girls in Uk who are the same all about money 💰 if they love you it’s shouldn’t be money 💰 love should be love no matter what I am a girl i married to my husband for love I work hard to help with everything and this is love ❤️ say as it is but Thai 🇹🇭 girls no no so many games in they head shocked 😳
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As an experienced visitor to Thailand , and Thai ladies you were being scammed. Never try to justify 😢 the actions of your THAI girlfriend so you can continue the relationship. A red flag or red card is just that game over.
Couldn’t agree more,well said!
Guys, don’t get married! Stay single and free! No ball and chain around your ankle! Don’t get married! Ever! 👍😎
marry yourself. f'k, pay 4 it and stay 'LOOSE'. U'll live life to the very end avoiding, courts, lawyers, excessive brain damage and ending up penniless. never trust a WOMEN.
I think this one is trying to make a come back she can play off of once she has you back for a while - split
Strange thing is, even after his balls were emptied, his mind still couldn't think straight.
Just had a Thai girl acquaintance accept a date to go out. But she rejected the "movie" suggestion and replied, "Let's just go shopping and relax". No thanks. Canceled. The word STUPID isn't written on my forehead.
Something similar happened to me in Bangkok before my first meeting with a girl. I've did the same as you.
@@Ali-od5gn Be warned about when they show up to the date with their friends. Walk away. Fast. No apologies. Just smile and wave goodbye.
@@Steven-hk2wbbut if she thought of me and only brought her friends with nice big fake breasts. Showing off skin and tattoos.
I actually had a movie date recently. Saw the Deadpool flick.
movies are awful dates.
Too many RED FLAGS with this one. Her switching from abusive to lovey dovey messages has psycho all over it. Don't fall for it. And no more free passes or benefit of the doubts, she's BAD news. You deserve and can do better. Best of luck to you.
Do yourself a favour, meet one in your own country, well educated and meet her family in Thailand before you commit to her. I done this and never regretted marrying her, been married over 11 years, no issues with her or her family, good luck, the right one is there mate.
I lived with a Thai woman for abut a year. I always told my friends to live 24/7 with a woman for at least three months. They would get tired of acting by then and the warts would come out. After about a year with no problems, I asked her if she wanted to get married. She looked at me in an odd way and asked "Why"? That was about 23 years ago. We did get legally married and had no party or family involved. I should add that she was 35 years old when I met her. She was never married and had no children. She did let me know in no uncertain terms that if I ever decided to return to the US, I would be going alone. She did tell me that no Thai man would ever marry her because she had a mind of her own. She DID and STILL has a mind of her own. I would never want a clinging vine jealous woman for a wife.
Run, run for your life and don´t look back.
Block and move on. Just go meet bar girls and send them on their way after you're done...
EVERY man who has ever been scammed by a Thai girl in the industry has said, “she is different.” Every. Single. One. They are masters at this game. You don’t have a chance. She tried to completely fleece you. Run.
I live in Bangkok.
She is definitely a scammer, I’ve been through similar situation when I was trying to find excuses to my abusing girlfriend, now, after I got rid of the feelings, it is so clear that she was a scammer, but I didn’t see the flags at the time because of emotional attachment. My advice to you is to block her and cut all contact with her. Good luck to you in finding true love with another woman.
It's the same dynamic people find themselves in with narcissists and other abusive personalities. Most narcissistic abusers are not always terrible. If they were dealing with these relationships would be much easier to walk away from because if the person were always terrible then there would be nothing to stay around for and you wouldn't be so confused and conflicted. It gives people hope when that hope gets ripped away from you The fact that narcissists are not terrible all the time can seem like evidence that things are changing or that they're getting better. It is extremely misleading because it's not the end of the problem, it's part of it the idealized/devalue cycle.
When people meet the pathologically narcissistic person, it often seems as if they've met their soul mate. They are everything you ever wanted. This can continue for quite a while. Love-bombing often occurs during this time and the victim - who may be starved on some level for love and validation - finally believes they will be loved the way they have always wanted to be loved. Red flags may pop up here and there, but because the person is so hopeful and enamored of the narcissist, these red flags are ignored or rationalized away. This marks the first time the person allowed their fantasy of the narcissist to dominate reality. They knew something was not right about the narcissist or the situation but they actively and intentionally chose to ignore it or not to act on it. This happens many more times as the gulf between what the narcissist actually is and what the victim wants them to be gets larger.
As the idealization phase winds down, these red flags become screaming red-alert alarms. But the victim, still wrapped in their fantasy of the narcissist, chooses to believe that the kind, decent persona that they like best is who the pathologically narcissistic person really is. There is no real truth to this, and no real reason for it other than this is just what the victim wants to believe. The pathologically narcissistic person also would like to believe that they themselves are a great person and this is just an aberration in their character, and in this way, both the narcissist and the victim convince each other that this is the truth. Because the victim is looking for ways to explain this aberration, this deviation of character, they unwittingly hand the narcissist all manner of excuses for their own behavior. The narcissist will then fall on these excuses and throw them back at the other person every time their bad behavior shows up.
In this way, the fantasy of the narcissist is preserved, the victim is shamed and the narcissist is perpetually excused of any and all wrong doing. Life goes on as it has, often with the victim suffering terribly and never realizing that the entire situation is predicated on a false belief. The nice persona they like best is not who the narcissist really is. The abusive persona they hate or fear is not who the narcissist really is, either. Both of these so-called personas are fake in their own way. The true identity of the pathologically narcissistic person is a shattered, underdeveloped being that is unable to interact with the world. It is often not accessible, even by the narcissist themselves, and the narcissist's entire life is dedicated to simultaneously denying and protecting this underdeveloped self.
Many people believe that the narcissist's kind persona was developed to hide the abusive one. In truth, they are both personas of sorts and they were both created to protect the true self. The kind persona faces the world. It is the superficial projection of who the narcissist wants to be and hopes to convince others they are. It is as perfect as possible, in the hopes that if it can be perfect, it will be valued and loved. The abusive persona stands "behind" the kind one as a shield, or as a sort of buffer between the underdeveloped self and the world. If you see beyond the superficial kind persona, this is usually what you will encounter. The idea of being exposed is very threatening to the narcissistic person, because they believe that being exposed means they will be devalued and abandoned. It threatens their self-worth directly. This is why you see the rage when this happens. Any mistake, any perceived failure or slight on their part can trigger the rage and that is why: because they feel that they are going to be exposed as not perfect and therefore not valuable. Lurking behind this rage and fear is the core belief - sometimes subconscious and sometimes acknowledged - that they are defective, worthless and unlovable. They fear exposure of this perhaps more than anything else. Many of them would quite literally rather die than face the shame of exposure, and they have spent their whole lives trying to prevent this from happening.
Pathologically narcissistic people's entire lives are devoted to trying to prove to themselves that they have value, and other people are required to buy into their act in order for them to do so. If someone sees behind the mask, so to speak, they are not going to buy into it. The abuse and the rage are the narcissist's effort to get people to back off and stop trying to be close to them, or to be perfect and fall in line so that narcissist's image of themselves is not in danger. They cannot tolerate that. So they rage or manipulate or freeze you out, give you the silent treatment or go into hysterics or any number of things in an effort to prevent that from happening. They don't want you poking around back there behind the curtain and they do these things to try to get you to stop. It's like putting an 80lb. attack dog outside of a door you don't want anyone to enter.
Narcissists generally do not have any actual understanding of this dynamic. Their behavior is all reaction based on emotional triggers like a reflex. In truth, the pathologically narcissistic person's identity is unstable at the very best and often it is entirely nonexistent. These different personas that they portray are not real personas because usually they are not fully developed and lack any sort of true depth. They are generally one-dimensional, reflecting only one emotional "side" of the narcissistic person and that's it. They are not cohesive and do not coexist the way we understand different aspects of a person's personality to coexist. Most people have different aspects of themselves and these generally exist more or less in harmony in the person, creating one unified whole. In pathologically narcissistic people, this is not the case. The aspects are fractured and separate. They've been compartmentalized, often creating a person that appears to have more than one personality. They don't, but because of their inability to integrate these different aspects of themselves together successfully, this can result in what we refer to as a Jekyll and Hyde dynamic or presentation.
This is why the victim has such a hard time letting their fantasy of the narcissist go. When the narcissistic person is "good," they are all good. And when they are bad, they are all bad. This is called splitting. The victim - for whatever reason they have of their own - truly wants to believe that the narcissistic person is good. The narcissistic person wants the victim to believe this too, because then there are no threats to their own self-worth. It's true that narcissists misrepresent themselves, but this does not explain why the victim stays in the relationship long after they realize that the narcissist is not who they pretend to be. The victim often intentionally chooses to believe in the narcissist's false self, even after it has been established that this is not who they are. This is because the victim has a fantasy of the narcissistic person that they do not want to let go of. There is a refusal to accept the reality of the situation here, and this is understandable but it's also hurtful. This unwillingness to accept the true nature of the relationship and the narcissist is responsible for most of the pain caused by these types of relationships.
Of course someone wants to believe the person they care about is a good person and cares about them in return. However, it becomes less simple when we take into consideration that the person may been given evidence that this is not true yet still chooses to believe it. It becomes a question of why. Why is this relationship or what it represents so important that a person will ignore evidence that it is unfair, abusive or unhealthy in order to stay in it? Is there a trauma bond? Is there a issue with the victim's self-worth or past trauma that needs to be addressed? What are you getting or hoping to get out of the relationship and why is it so important? And perhaps the most important question, are you able to accept the reality of the relationship and what that means?
The good thing about these kinds of questions is that though they may be painful, people usually know the answers to them and once they start looking, they can see the connection. Usually the root of these relationships is the need for validation from others because of a nagging feeling that the victim is not good enough or not lovable. That is usually the fantasy: I will finally do the right thing, say the right thing, behave the right way and it will unlock the love that I want and feel I deserve.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to be loved. There is something wrong with not accepting the reality of a situation, especially when it's hurting you. Acceptance is very important here. Letting go of unrealistic or fantasy expectations is the first step in that direction. Sometimes just acknowledging that the expectations are unrealistic can take some of their power away. Making lists contrasting fantasy beliefs vs. reality of the situation can also be very helpful. When we know better, we do better.
Normal Thai girls don’t post their what’s app numbers on their profile. Run away. She has thousands of guys on a string. What is her job? I bet he does not even know. She has tons of guys.
The trick with jewellery is to get all the victims to buy you the same piece of jewellery. Wear one, pawn the rest. They will never be the wiser.
Interesting, that's a pretty good scam - I never would have thought of that.
I learnt after I was scammed I have bought airline ticket for Thai lady to come to Australia she not only scammed me she was putting some tables in my coffee but I don't know what is going I started getting confused disoriented depressed than she asked me for money so will send to Thailand to her sister to pay off her credit cards I said no book you return flight ✈️ go back I found why I was sick after check her suitcase I found stacks of tables I asked her what are those tables for she said her sleeping tables she lied that is what made me so confused disoriented depressed and so on, in the end I found out she even couldn't speak English the scammers were speaking for her through earpiece plus after snuck tablet in my coffee I was sleeping at night like dead people that she injected microchip in my back so the scammers criminals on their mobile phones tracking and listening 🎧 when I talk to others people I didn't report to police because my Ex wife is boss for almost all ladies especially in SE Asia police know about her I did report for some other cases but they did nothing about it so they is pointless reporting scammers long story must make it short my advice is not to drink or eat in places you not 💯% sure about you know my food and drinks actually I was poisoned in Thailand Bali Indonesia Kuala Lumpur Malaysia at Airport in City restaurants, since that happened to me I eat in places like self service and unopened drinks One last thing believe me when you are speaking to SE Asia ladies you are not talking with them you are talking with scammers....
Yes, tell three different guys that you will be buying the same necklace, buy it once, and have the money from the two others. But this is typical of all Thai girls. The moment they are short on money, they go and sell off their Jewellery. The western way of thinking is that when you are debt-free or have your debts under control, you go and buy discretionary items such as jewellery. Thai’s can be so myopic and think so short term, that they would prefer short term gratification, as opposed to the long term satisfaction you would knowing you have earned this due to your having worked hard, made sacrifices and saved for it, and showing you have built stable wealth…
I know of one event where two guys even bought the same house!
@@stormstereo Oh man! I don't know how people could just buy a place without looking at all of the paperwork and talking to the real estate agent. And if I'm buying you a car... you had better believe it's going to be in my name.
I will never understand the desire to get married. Just pay as you go. Keep it on 'easy'-mode.
Get rid of her man. She is just playing with your emotions and is a scammer. Online you get only scammers. Boots on the ground for a long time is only the way
Just dump her! Age isn't "important" in Thailand... even at your age, you can find a beautiful 20 yo girl to spend quality time with, just don't mix pleasure with "love"!
Age is important even in Thailand.....The older you are the higher the chance that you will get scammed....Thai girls don't fall in love with old men in 2024...The young ones run away or just do shortime...The older ones are looking money for their kids and relatives.... Maybe 20 yrs ago thing where different people know less and where more innocent....
60 is young. When you get to 77 that kinda makes one say,Oh I’m older! That’s me now. 😂 However I think your Thai friend was playing you. You got away safe.
RUN and DONT LOOK BACK…… 100% scammer
Cut while you are ahead. No excuse for DISHONESTY. She has nothing to lose by marrying you. You have nothing to gain by marrying her. In this case, the grass is definitely greener on the other side, so to speak. RUN...FAST
Definitely a Freelancer, 100,000 views on dating site. Isaan girls you can never trust. Gold shop that quickly. She is just out for your money. She was just playing the long game. She played on your emotions. Run guy, run you would be a fool in you ever married. I don’t understand how men come to Thailand and are so fooled. I have lived here nearly 30 years on and off. I have seen it all including me in the early days, but I realized the game she was playing and call her out on it. Fortunately I was one of the lucky ones. I have friends fooled the same and they lost out big time with money, marriage, children, divorce etc.
I bought my Thai girlfriend a one baht ring. She pawned it and bought a fake one that looks the same. I bet that necklace she showed you is fake gold.
"I bought my Thai girlfriend a one baht ring. "
Typo?? that or it cost 2c USD hahaha
@@MickeyMousePark When it comes to jewelry, "baht" usually means the weight of the gold. One baht is about 15 grams.
@@MickeyMousePark in Thai gold weight a Baht is 15.244 grams.
I'm happily married to a regular woman from Bangkok. I do not have any money, and my wife is with me for love and not for money! We do live in Sweden.
We do occasionally help her family out, but only a couple of thousands of bath at the time. Her family accepts me even though I do not have any money to show off!
Look for how your woman treats other men. As she does to them, she will do to you! This woman has exploited God knows how many Farang men! Do you want such a woman?
My wife always treats everybody well, and this includes me!
That a lot of bath's.....
@@Ron-zu3iv Should be pretty clean by know LOL.
There were to many RED FLAGS for me in this relationship...
Once she began asking for STUFF... I would've executed an *EXIT, STAGE LEFT and disappeared...
I remember a beautiful bargirl I met at a soi cowboy bar. Her name is also May. Although I did barfine her a couple times, she always felt distant. Bedroom gun was fine, but she just seemed like she was holding back. That just made it more interesting for me. So after all my verbal bullshit failed, I decided to go all in (so to speak) she was much younger and figuring that it was the age thing, I went shopping for a younger style. I had my haircut. And I bought a bottle of wine and flowers. The wine was for the room and I had originally planned to walk in w the flowers, but then I saw something even better. One of the street vendors sold fake jewelry that was very good quality. I found an engagement ring that had a nice big rock on it. It looked real enough to me. Honestly, this thing looked real enough to me. And since my verbal bullshit included me proposing to her, I figured this would go perfectly w the joke. I spliced the rose petals on the bed, dimmed the lights and put the wine on ice. The room was. Set so looking 20 days younger at least, I decided to head out and give it one last try. After juicing her up w a couple drinks and charming her w my bs, I decided it was time to barfine one more time. So I popped the question as I normally did, only this time instead of the bhat shipped into a ring, I showed her the one I bought that even came in a cute little box. I never seen a girl light up so much so fast. Went back to the room and this time she held nothing back. I kept wondering if she knew that it was a fake ring but I never told her. The next day however, she blocked me from everything. When I stopped in one last time, thinking we’d have a good laugh, she just gave me the cold shoulder. Oh well. I just hit the next bar and had a good laugh myself.
hey, great idea. i gotta try that one
You did the right thing by holding uo things with her.
Many many stories are about money with these Thai women. Everything is planned.
Don't get in to long term relationships, it can get in to complications and troubles. Try consulting an old westner in Thailand who had already tried similar long-term relationships.
I'm sorry but this guy is lost. I wouldn't have let it get this far but if I had and she asked for 6million baht I would have called everything off.
My girlfriend is 33 and I am 75 We are happy and everyday our love get stronger ,you are not happy in your marriage so I would leave and seek happiness .so goodluck and remember life to short Les from Australia
I would be so scared to go back to Thailand, not to mention you've been scammed by her. She's very professional! My advice, dont ever meet her again. You can go to Thailand for vacation! You must make sure you're done with her.
Run as fast as you can in the opposite direction. I think she’s just after your money
He dodged a bullet...
I think this is not the end of the road for you . I am four years old than you and almost in the same position as you. Why not try in the Phillipines . I met one from there six months ago and planned to visit her early next year
I agree....try filipina!!!!🥰
Without watching the video... in the first 16 seconds... I can answer the guy's question.... if you have any doubts whether or not your girl is scamming you... run, don't walk. There's always another girl you will meet. And maybe, just maybe, you will know that she's the one for you. If you have the slightest concern if you're being scammed, trust your gut and run away as fast as you can and don't look back.
I agree with most of the other comments. I know an older woman who is in her early 50's and she wants me to come meet her and be with her but we almost never talk about money. I don't believe that a dowry that large should be a condition to marriage. I say that because even if you came up with the money, you would then be expected to pay for many other things and it wouldn't stop until you run out of money....
at the moment i am going through a similar situation with my Thai girlfriend. 😢 my girlfriend doesn't want to come to Australia. she wants to start her own beauti salon in her village. she introduced me to her family and relatives as well. i have been her home for more than ten days and leaving tomorrow. i am trying my best to control my emotions and feelings..even i saw few different red flags,i love her unconditionally..i think money is the key figure behind All these stories.
6Mil Baht for a 40 year-old? What were you thinking, mannn?
Even 1 million would be considered movie star prices. All my Thai colleagues at work paid only 100,000 bht and they got their money back after the wedding.
She should be paying you at that age. Be gone with the old bag
Mate don’t part with your money……. She is playing you, she already shown that she lie to you from the beginning
I am absolutely amazed at some of these stories. Guys, use your brain when dealing with Thai girls
you maintain not only her but also her intire famely . way too mutch money .
blocking the other guys dont help , che just unblock them when you are not there .
you will be living in constant fear . the neckless should told you averything about her .
there's a good chance che has more money in the bank then you . guys using her and che uses guys .
She's probably earning more than him on an annual basis. Remember all her gains are tax free!
Question should be asked differently: Do you let your Thai girlfriend scam you? Asia is different guys, be smart or get ruined. If you aren't smart bad girls will ruin you and good girls will lose respect.
What does this mean exactly?
If she really loves you, she will not say about the money from the beginning... enjoy your life and reach your partner who lives near you
Once you are married, she will divorce you and take half, why the fck would any bloke want to get married this day and age???
It’s quite obvious that she is showing a great interest to your wallet !
One thing I want you to think about, ho is in control of your Wallet ??
You are !!
If you find it in your heart that you want to spend money on her, do that !
But never ever lose control of your finances.
I guarantee you that if she is a scammer, she will be back for more, no matter how much money you pour on her now !!
That I can 100 percent guarantee !! 😊
When I meet a new girl in Thailand I always tell them, Up to you. When they ask for a dowery I say , That's funny, my parents also want a dowery which is usually twice as much as what her parents want. If she is serious about me she would have no problem paying. If you can get 10 or more Thailand woman who like you you can make a good living.
I think this guy dodged a BIG scam!
Thats the kind of bride price for celebrities with deep pockets. Run away. Run fast.
If she didn't care about money then why all the previous demands for it? If you go back it would probably start again.
You are smart be in control as I know you're going to Regret it in long term I've been there
Love the “Tests”
When “She’s different or you need to “Test” her your already to far in.
Time is you friend if you want something serious in Thailand.
It’s not a scam if her family is only asking £600,000…but £6,000,000 sounds a little sketchy.
It’s always about money.. been there done that. Have fun not feelings 🙏
Its better to be single! Nobody just died off being alone. Be strong guys have purpose in life. To many woman are fake these times( men too) stand your ground. She is never your its just your turn with her.
The fact that she didnt want a pre-nup says a lot. If she can't get your money up-front with sin-sod and gold, she can get half of everything through a divorce. I think this chick does this for a living. Don't get emotionally involved with a Thai girl until you live there full time. It's really quite simple.
I knew a young girl who got 6 mil as a dowry from a rich 65ish Swede Blew it all on lottery tickets Broke and divorced 3 years later.
Her anger and subsequent bargaining positions of "forget the gold and money" were a reaction to her losing face and trying to keep you from leaving. But you didn't throw away anything but a lifetime of potential heartbreak and suspicion, IMHO.
She was on the game, man. And she would have stayed on the game even after you married her. The "requests" for money and gold would have returned, and they would likely have kept getting bigger and more frequent.
There is no bottom to the greed of a bargirl*, or her family (I noticed her mom asked for more money even after you gave them a very generous sum). There is also the greed of the inevitable Thai boyfriend/husband these scammers almost always have in the shadows.
Take the good memories from your holiday, and consider yourself wiser and not that much poorer. More experienced foreigners have fared much worse in Thailand.
*(I wasn't sure what she did for a living, but for all intents and purposes, she's acting like a bargirl, so I'm calling her one).
Run and keep running. 😮
Abusive messages should be the end of it if nothing else.
6 million bhat is like $165,000 usd fuck that noise
jesus christ mate, that's every mistake in the book. no worries, 40-year-old mays are two-a-penny, even if you're 60. watch more of these videos, learn the game, and try to find someone semi-normal. it's not difficult, just keep your wits about you.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Once a man give a very expensive dowry gift to a woman ,
all leverage is with the woman ,
because she can simply disappear with expensive dowry gift +not marry him ,
or she could file for divorce 5 minutes after the marriage,
and then disappear with the very expensive dowry gift,
leaving the man with empty bank account ,
and a broken heart and emotional and financial pain .
I felt bad for listening this is too much to bear!
Block her and move on...
Continuing by talking with her it would never give yourself a chance to see the bright future by giving yourself to see another woman that definitely belongs to you that will give you the genuinity of deep connection to be your soulmate...
Goodluck for your search....
Move forward and move on just explore and travel in different country to see and find what your looking at...
In an instant to see the least by meeting in some locals in the country for you to enjoy and have a lifetime experience.
Keep on moving... you good don't go back... you bless
You've seen the red flags, so forget her.
Marriage dowry isn't really a thing, even amongst most Thais today...it's not required. If you're willing to give the parents a dowry, then consider it a gift...nothing more.
That’s just not true, at all.
If you're a westerner, never flaunt wealth. Come across like an average working Joe.
Trust me on this she is bipolar and she’s only after your money, you have it away too quickly and should’ve stood your ground. Asking for 6 mil sin sod is outrageous, she’s in her 40’s she’d be lucky to 100k, don’t fall for it she sees you as her ATM card, I’m sorry to say all this to you but it’s the hard truth and I wish you all the best
She may not be outright scamming, but it's obviously not going to be a happy marriage. At best there would be constant financial conflict, which would ruin any happiness within a couple years.
You've done the right thing,just let her go. Any reasonable girl don't ask for money or rather go to bed with a man before marriage.
i really hope that you will wake up from this nightmare and save yourself.
The Thai girls Family like to show off to all the neighbours in the village the Sinsod payment they have received from their daughters farang husband. This lifts the social standing of her parents in the village. But it’s good that you had the ability to look into her phone , as this gave you all the answers you needed to put your doubts to rest. Sound like she was going to commit to playing the long game by coming to the UK, getting arrived & permanent residency, then divorce you and take 50% of your assets….
Lived in Thailand 20 years, you're being used. NEVER spend BIG right away. Geez, Bt6,000 for the first dinner? Take her someplace local, no frills, Bt500 and see how she acts. No money for apartment, parents, etc. Pay for dinner dates, movies, etc. No expensive travel. And NO GOLD! Stay for minimum 6 months and see whether she treats you like a boyfriend or an ATM.
I'm sorry ,after you found out she was scamming other guys on her phone, you should have done an exit there and then.
Mate, she will say the sweetest things to you and make you forget what has happened, and then she'll do things behind your back when you have already put plans in places which will piss you off big time.
Once this things happens there will be no stoping and then back to her way of getting money out of you making you feel happy.
I would say leave her and find yourself a new girl don't buy or take them to fancy restaurants because once they see that lifestyle you are screwed.
I always say there are plantey more fish in the sea, she's not the only one.
But before you get totally taken to the cleaners delete her numbers and block her get back on the dating app.make more connections and see how it goes but remember if they start asking within a few days or weeks for gold or money leave them start again.Yes you will find one out there but when it's anybody guess and best of luck.
I love your story's on here and the background video as you walk along the different soi's telling the story.
Keep it buddy. 👍👍🙏🙏
I noted while watching your videos, why I only see a lot of older American men walking around the street there in Thailand LOL.
How on gods green earth do you know they are American?
@@TalesBeyondHorizons Well, at least the fat ones!
6 million?? lol! This guy is definitely being scammed
you obviously got scammed
The dowry is a joke, to buy your lady from her family is obserd. Let them keep her and go to another country where everyone isn't a scam artist to find a real wife!
1. Your tests are not vetting the womans values just checking if she is a catfish.
2. You didn't let her pay for food when you had payed for other things. You presented yourself as the atm. Don't do that. You set the stage for being the wallet yourself and didn't set boundaries. You are not a butterfly in the wind you should man up and set boundaries early on in the relationship to stay congruent. If you had presented yourself as an atm in the beginning and later on you want to flip it it's gonna make you look disingenuine and fake. You have to do this from the beginning not lure women in with money and then say muh golddigger.
3. 55000 for a whole dowry is not too overboard and it is tradition. If the dowry stays under 2k I don't see the problem. I payed 150 Euro dowry once but other country.
4. Obviously she turned out being a scammer in the end. I think your vetting process was really bad you need to improve or this will happen to you again just like that. You are letting too many things go maybe because you have underlying self esteem issues.
5. You offered the parents money even though they didnt ask for it. Would you charge people money for being a guest at your house? keep your money for yourself.
6. This woman is a liar, scammer and cheater as you seem to have said. Are you aware that there are more people on the planet than you can ever talk to in a 100 years?
I disagree with other comments. Love is not proof of spiritual purity in Thailand. It grows from material support.
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Get out whilst you still can and don’t even think twice
If you have to pay to be loved by any of these girls your doing yourself an injustice
As a female here from far away, it’s a trap friend. Get out ! Red flags 😅
When a starting relationship has so many pitfalls, then you have enough reasons to stop. A loving relationship will normally go without all these obstacles and unbelievable wishes of a woman. The problem is. As an honest and empathetic man, he sells his trust and his soul to a woman he is so proud of. Then he expects the same reaction. If the love is real, then a relationship will become full-fledged. Without having to walk on eggshells. But if you see that so much is going wrong, then there are enough red flags. I will never want a woman who is in the media to share her privacy with the world. It will never go well. Too many contacts do not bring a good relationship.
Funny with foreign guys trying to find economically independent non bargirls in Thailand. Complaining about supporting a future thai wife is equally stupid. It’s scammers like this guy that make genuine thaiwomen put higher demand of sincerity from guys.
Married to an Isaanwoman myself that I met online I realized just how much a woman like her has to sacrifice only to go for a vacation with a potential man.
On the flip side: A non wealthy thaiwoman that doesn’t need help even in the beginning is a huge red flag. Probably means she has other ways of income, we know what that is..
Ahhh yes, yours is "different" right? I thought the guy in this story may have been a bit of Simp, but sounds like he has nothing on you, Tony.
Don’t worry, the family will ask for more money again, and again, and again, and again, and again!
I married to an American man for 15 years, I asked nothing from him when we were married. No dowry!
Lots of people are married. What’s your point?
If anyone asks you to look after them and are not independent asking for money run, run away fast
He overthinks too much. He got scammed but still the Thai woman could "Love him" in Thai way. But at the end he would just lose his *money* and his mind.
Run for your life and don't look back.
After that block her and never unblock her again.
You can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl!
Cha Ching !!!
Don't turn your back and walk away from this lady who has declared her love for you .... RUN, then RUN some more. Do not look back. Do not test her, or ever communicate with her. I guarantee she is far more experienced than you at this game. This is zero-sum game that you can't win.
Block this woman , they are only after your money. Find someone that is a permanent resident in your own country. Your experience ls happening all the time. Don't play their game.
You dodged a bullet 100%!!!!!!
Oh my God!!!! Do not waste your precious time on this scammer
Go forward and take notes of what you have learned- how many red flags can you count?
IMHO, you should have RUN AWAY long before the Issan trip. As for asking for a dowry of 6M THB.......555.
With all the warnings. How does this still happen.
Too many red flags from the get go. The fact that he's not thinking rationally is due to the fear of missing out.
You dodged a bullet to the head. This girl has SCAM written all over her. Even if she were to be your wife (HUGE MISTAKE) she would be draining your wallet dry every month. The minute you run out of money, she'll be gone. Consider yourself very, very, lucky to have been able to get away relatively clean.
I know so many Thai girls in Uk who are the same all about money 💰 if they love you it’s shouldn’t be money 💰 love should be love no matter what I am a girl i married to my husband for love I work hard to help with everything and this is love ❤️ say as it is but Thai 🇹🇭 girls no no so many games in they head shocked 😳
Listen to your gut feeling. Run for the hills and don't look back.
It’s called Love Bombing, where she wants you to fall deeply in love with her so she can get anything she wants from you.
Block Her & Move On. Go To Pattaya 🎉🍾👯♀️ & Enjoy Your Life 🍻With Many Different Ladies 👯♀️