Gang Milling the Fireball Tool Fixture Plate
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2020
- This is the second op for machining the @FireballTool cast iron fixture plate. I could not reach the outer side with an endmill so I decided to use the gang milling style setup to machine both sides at once. This is a great way to assure a part like this has two sides that are perfectly parallel to each other. It's also pretty fun to watch to!
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Adam,
My Grandfather was a machinist in the Navy on an "oiler" during the time between the end of WWII and before the beginning of the Korean War. I learned SO MUCH from him during my youth and I miss him dearly. He passed last year while I was deployed to the Middle East. Though I wasn't able to be physically present to say goodbye, my loving wife was there to stream video of the ceremony live to me from across the world. I was fortunate to be the family member chosen to (virtually) receive the American flag from the Honor Guard. Before rambling on further, the point I'm trying to make is this: I'm grateful for your work and the time you take to put together excellent content! It reminds me of my Grandfather and all the memories of him teaching me about machining and mechanics in the shop I helped him build in his backyard. Thanks!
Happy Independence Day Adam!
Keep all of it in your memories. It's the only we keep forever.
I appreciate seeing the mistakes. Makes me feel a little better about my own mistakes.
Abom79 is great, he is not trying to show off. We can actually learn. Very much appreciated. At least we know he is human haha
You should tell your kids
My mistake are fuckups compared to Abom79's 😆
@@Trident_Euclid Yeah, I'm pretty good at turning a nice pristine chunk of stock into garbage myself.
the difference between master and appreciate is that master is some times slopy and appreciate is some time good.
It remindet me a variation on a quote. I dont fuck up all the time only most of the time.
For Abom it goes, im not prefect all the time only most of the time.
Thanks for showing that things don’t always go according to plan. It’s an invaluable life lesson- figure out what went wrong, learn from it, move on armed with the new knowledge.
The contrast in this video in the fact that this wasn't a perfect opp made me realize how consistently successful your work is.
The person who never made a mistake never made anything!
A mistake? Out of square? Awesome. Thanks for showing us that mistakes do happen. Was just thinking on the tap adapter that it be cool if you showed some mistakes, we're just human after all 👍🏼
Hey boss man 😎.. it's awfully hard to admit when you've made a mistake.... It's even harder to post it to TH-cam for thousands of people to see...!! But that's why we all watch you, and people like you that are honest with us,.. we all learn from your videos!!!! Thanks for the Entertainment!! And sharing of knowledge!!
9:22 - honest as usual, Adam. This is why we watch!
Time for some spray welding!
Nah, Eutalloy build up 😎
@@Abom79 DO IT! :D
edit, ok Googled that, seems extreme. :(
The man that never made a mistake never made anything
You're humility about you're setup is refreshing. Anyway you'd skills and precision is what u are known for 😊
A man that hasn't made a mistake hasn't made anything. As long as you can go home to your lovely wife it's a good day
She ain't lovely
@@ehoh3246 that's a pretty shitty thing to say
My wife passed away 8 months ago. She is in heaven waiting for me. Cherish everyday you have with your wife because tomorrow is not guaranteed
Good words and well said.
That op is what the K&T was designed for. Ole girl is back doing what she was likely doing when she was brand new. Nice job buddy and everyone leaves a little secret here and there on a part once and a while. ;-) Shes still perfect! AND you got to gang mill!!! Speaking of, was that your first time gang milling?
You are a man of Integrity.
Thanks for a trip down memory lane....... When I worked for Boeing I made lots of similar setups with gang cutters. Always had to check the cutters for being on center and same diameter and width with the proper spacing etc. Most of our parts that required a gange setup sometimes as many as 4 cutters with varing widths came in "kitted "from the tool room so all I had to do was the setup. Heaven forbid if you broke a matched cutter! Always lock out the "Y" axis if possible. Believe me BAD things happen quickly if you pull the wrong handle. It was always aggrivating getting the right crush compensation on the shims. Fun times. You are correct in the climb direction. Anything suspect of being lifted always climb. I always set the table lock too so it would create some extra drag. Those old Cincinatti machines were well used so you learn to compensate if you know what I mean. I really like those heavy toe clamps.
Nice, Adam. Mistakes - we all make 'em. Own it, learn what you can from it and MOVE ON! Thanks for great content.
casting is tricky to square up thank you for being humble enjoy to show what happen. keep the channel going thanks west tn
300 mm and the happiness returns with a clean metric plate.
Easy to remember.
Talking to friends in work I came to the conclusion that half the population of Ireland watch your channel, your dedication to precise work and the pride you have in doing a job correctly is inspiring. Keep up the good work,
Adam, please do not ever change your theme music. I love it. And after watching your videos for two years it has a lot of emotional meaning to me. You have provided me with so much joy, pleasure, and entertainment. My monthly payment is money I feel is so well spent. You earn it, as much as Steven Spielberg does.
Here in the UK that operation would be called 'straddle milling', gang milling usually involves two or more cutters of different profiles on the arbour to form a specific profile ,for instance the V ways on a lathe bed.
Malcolm Young you are correct. It’s the same here in the USA.
Lessons learned are best not forgotten. Keep on keeping on, love your videos!
Really cool seeing actual gang milling, never seen it 'in real life' only in books and pictures..
As for the little mishap, you live and you learn.. thanks for keeping it real and leaving it in video so that other people like me don't feel too bad about their own happy little accidents 😁
Gang milling, I like it. This is why I watch, interesting machining.
Interesting set up! thanks for showing the gang milling.
I respect your honesty in these videos.
Great to see this operation. I had a feeling the middle would need some support. Everything is a spring! Thank you for continuing to add quality machinist content.
thanks for leaving in the little mishap. it's important to be able to be realistic about mistakes happening, not beating yourself up over them, and recognizing them for the learning opportunities they are.
The true strength of an expert is to admit fault and explain why. Great video content.
Impressive operation - thanks so much for sharing Adam! 👍
fair play for showing your mess up most would cover it up
Glad you are human after all. Always run through my mistakes on my way home and learn.
Have not seen anybody do any gangmilliling in person but i have seen the trades videos from the 40 and 50s
I just wanted to say thanks! I feel like I’ve learned a lot from this channel it’s amazing. So much so that I heard the oscillating sound after 6:10 and thought, that doesn’t sound right. And literally seconds later you stopped the machine/camera and concluded the same thing! Thank you!
In a Polish machine shop. The old timers were very old and masters of their machines. I was amazed to see blocks of steel turn into master engineered Pat's. Thx.
Strange how the strobe effect shows the shaft and cutters going in different directions
Super trippy when your brain knows for a fact they are spinning opposite to what your eyes are showing.
Awesome to see 2 awesome TH-camrs helping each other out! You 2 are a great combo! I will definitely get one of those for my home shop!
That gang milling was cool to watch. Nice that you show your mistakes. I’ve made my share.
The machines will never cease to inspire humility in the machinist. I'd be tempted to give that corner a little bit of brass build-up to machine off. Looking forward to the shaper finish on the top face.
I'm glad you showed your mistake, is show's every day is a learning day.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Great video, Abom79 always teaches me something new. Also I really appreciate that when he makes a mistake or something doesn’t work like he wants he leaves it in the video. Stuff like that encourages me in my new hobby.
Good job. Very fun to watch.👍👍👍👍👍
I like the way you work and your equipment that is very supportive
My best friend is a carpenter, and we've done a bunch of work together. His saying when something isn't perfectly aligned, etc is, "That'll be for OUR reference."
Mistakes happens, it’s how you fix it that’s important. Great video and a cool setup mate
True craftsman,salute.
Watched the first part and was a little sad you didn't show the gangmilling part. Now you made me happy.
😁
Using the vertical mill, cut a pad into that ‘oops’ spot so that it’s at an even distance from the other side (so, perhaps 11” 3/4) and add some tapped holes. Bingo, it’s not a bug, it’s a feature! 😎
Very nice setup. Great work!
Never seen or heard about gang milling before.. thanks for sharing .. really interesting and cool video :)
Love your work!! u'd make one hell of a teacher..
ShhhhhWeeee glad we got that part done...Thanks
"Guess I was wrong again...Let's get this thing out of here." I could feel the frustration. Thank goodness I have never experienced that myself...
Nice to see some machine work!
Wow, what a treat... Happy 4th Adam
I'm glad to know you are human, dude you create so much at such a high level I wasn't sure you were human. Thanks for sharing even your mistakes ABomb! Happy 4th of July man.
Raw castings are so much fun!
never seen that before, thanks for sharing.
Adam, the very thin shims and bag look very familiar. Glad you could finally get to use them. Also let me know if you need more of the new 6" and 8" HHS slitting blades. Great clip!
the sky hook looks like a fantastic purchase! saved your back a tone of work there XD, great video
Interesting project. Pinpoint filming. Thanks
lol 9:26 shhhhhhh abom79 xD love your channel man and. its good to see you still working and not sick with cov-19 ... just epic....
Super cool setup 👍
Thanks for sharing!
A proverb i always use is "A man who never made a mistake. Never made anything"
My father who was a lecturer in brickwork always used to say when if something went wrong or a job wasnt perfect it was roman. As it was to be belived back then to intentionly put a defect in so as not to be perfect as that would anger the gods and man should never equal the gods.
He also used to say "some are born to greatness, some achive greatness and some are just f*&king lucky!."
Ah! A fellow software engineer?
Adam, Great video never seen gang milling before very cool to watch, thanks for sharing your video.!.!.!.
Damn, I knew you were going to need those center supports, that chatter was really getting started. Thankfully you were on top of it as usual, just can’t get anything past you Adam! 😂😂
Great show Adam
How can there be people who dont like Adam's videos? Must just be jealous bungholes :-). Great video as always Adam enjoy your awesomeness.
Love the gang fixture
That little imperfection gives it character...
Like wood through a saw mill lovely job Adam! 👍🔧🔩🗜
A wise man once said something clever about mistakes being the best teacher, or something like that. Great video - thanks.
I did wonder about squareness. Het ho. What you could do of course is machine the sides to exactly 300mm. The actual size doesn't matter for this purpose but if you can't hit exactly 12 inches, you could aim for 300mm which gives you a second shot at having a "perfect" size.
Great video and thanks for sharing! Stay Safe Guys!
As I know Adam is a perfectionist, that mistake will bother him and he will not be able to leave it like that. I bet a six pack that he will do something to have perfectly straight again.
Like seeing the unusual setup pushing the operational limits of your machine(s).
Actually, gang milling is (er was) very popular in manufacturing. At least before CNC machining came online.
That was not even close to "pushing the operational limits of your machine(s)."
Horizontal milling always seems very cumbersome, although the gang milling is probably really useful for doing a whole batch. Thanks for showing new processes!
I could definitely feel your defeat, we make mistakes and good for you for publishing yours, always learn so much from you, thank you.
A cool operation to see even if the part didn’t turn out ideal.😎
Just some good old fashion machining
Wee bit of clear epoxy glue, cast iron filings thrown on top of it, no one will notice! A trick I learnt from Hand Tool Rescue
, when he was restoring Drag saw, with a cracked engine. And rough it with a needle scaler, for texture.
Great video as always Love from Scotland 5* :D
Awesome as always. Would love to see the flex arm in action when it comes down to tapping holes in your plate.
Gang milling Very cool Adam !
Have wanted to try it but haven't had the job come in for it yet.
Not like you to mess up like that. Then you tried to move the vise. Looks like you were having a bad day. Proves you are human! Love your work. Keep it up.
Mankind would not have reached that level of knowledge nowadays without making mistakes in the past and even not damping saggings from swinging created many well sounding music instruments 😁. Greetings from Germany.
love the sky hook! Adam probbly coulda just carried it!!LOL! love his toys!!
Very weird start of the video until I realized this was a follow-up :P
On the bright side, you now have a defined front and back to it.
😋
Hey, man, your milling on our side of the Block, oh wait, watch out boys here it comes!!!
Good job Adam, catch you when you finish it. Fred
Looking forwards to seeing the shaper in action....
New to your channel and look forward to learning more. As a young teen I worked
Good stuff. Sorry to see errors, but that's awesome that you show the good with the bad, Happy Independence Day!
Interesting as always 👍🏽
I love my horizontal mill. The way you can set up the cutters in multiple order is very handy. Down side of coarse is finding tooling for the older machines like mine.
This old Tony has a good one too , i think it is called horizontal overarm support.
Both of these guys are awesome!
Definitely, I watch both.
Are you telling me that Mr. Indicator didn't indicate the workpiece? LOL
You're still the best in my mind.
I always figure the only way to quit screwing up is to quit doing anything :)
11:44 : That skyhook is really doing a good job!
I thought that might cut a little short, those cutters aren't perfect. Good thing it's not to critical. Cool setup though.
Thanks, Adam
Wow, that was fun to watch thanks for sharing. Last time I ran wheel cutters on a knee mill was 1979?
oh this is a rare one for you and many modern machining, gang milling you dont see that often adam
because it adds a level of error most machinist try to avoid. if done 100% correctly it is a time saver @ 99.99% it could cause a damaged part that would be scrapped ( but in this case he states it is not a problem )
he also notes he assumed a raw cast edge was square, the fact he admits his errors and will learn from them is a good thing
Really nice about milling machine techniques. From Philippines. Latheman