That pic of the plate covered in the roughing chips would make an awesome jigsaw puzzle - expert level, fitting as it was made by expert level machinist! That is a very nice result you are getting off the shaper.
Doing things that may be different to some is important to learn a new or different method of doing a task. That is how we all learn and grow. I am a woodworker but I have learned so much about accuracy and love the different perspective you offer to all. Don't ever stop doing that!
That is a big honkin' vise, wow. When I went through high school machine shop, I was the only student in a decade to use the shaper for anything, the shop teacher loved my love of learning about everything - most of the shop students were burnouts and menaces to society (and themselves).
As Adam explains that he still needs to cut the ends, I couldn't help but think to myself "I wonder if he'll cut them square this time." Thanks for the great content Adam.
Abom79 is amazing. First is the absolutely gorgeous photo of the chips. Second he gives a master class in using the shaper, and honing the cutter. Wow! The wonder, the beauty, the greatness of the WWW is on display here. Now any machinist in the entire world can learn these techniques.
I'm not a machinist by any means. But I am an amateur maker and I love the videos you put out, and I am able to pick up new tricks and techniques in every one of your videos. Thanks for the content
Someone did mention this. I would love to see you rotate the table like +30 degrees and then -30 degrees for a spring pass and get a cross hatch pattern. Would that be possible one day?
Adam, there’s a company out of Nuevo, CA called Cal-Carb inc that fully grinds all their tool inserts. They surface, fixture, grind and hone every one individually. I worked for Curtis, the owner for a few years and it’s quite the process. Very interesting and extremely tight tolerances by use of J&L comparators. The surfacer is a Blanchard and the grinders are 1960’s Parker Majestics. If you want custom U.S. made, quality inserts, Curtis is your guy. Hand grinding is a dying trade even though tolerances are tighter than what these high output computer driven machines can produce.
When I was in college 45 yrs ago we had machine shop courses and we built a bench grinder and a wood vise from casting to finish that I still have and use. The one machine I hate to set up and use was shaper but after being viewer and subscriber for awhile now I developed a whole new appreciation for that machine. The shame of it is they have dismantled the machine shops and manual machines. They now have a few Cnc toys that they are making trivets on no foundry no manual set ups just programing and button pushing.
Adam, very nice camera footage. Especially the slow motion. The cutting angle on the finishing tool looks a lot sharper then on the round rough cutting tool.
That slow motion you can see the rust dust just flying off the left side there. I am surprised that does not seriously dull the cutter. That cutter steel must be some pretty fabulous stuff.
I noticed your new abor with the 50MM taper had a plastic ring on shank end. It helps prevent damage to your machine spindle when taking the arbor in and out . It's a good feature and not all 50 taper shanks have it.
I really hate to be one of those people in the comments who just point out one little bad thing in a video, so I'll do my best to point out all of what I loved about it first; 1. More Abom 2. More of the G&E (not that I've got anything against any machine in particular, in fact, its hard to pick a favourite) 3. All the tooling info thats gone into in as much depth as can be done without sending the average youtube viewer to the floor in a sudden deep sleep (thats more of a complaint about the average youtube viewer honestly) 4. The little lessons dropped here and there (don't expect perfection, from a casting at least. if the tools doing its job then its not being ruined) 5. The work that goes into getting the shots of the cutting. Theres so many angles, cuts, transitions, and the slow-mo footage must take a while if youve gotta find the nicest looking slowmo shot from one entire operation. But heres the but, the flicker doesn't do the shots justice! I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that having a couple of giant high wattage constant current LED videography lights blasting down on you in the middle of a Floridian summer, suspended from cumbersome tripods which will no doubt continually get in the way, would be inconvient to say the least. But they'd let you see so much more of the cut. Regardless, the slowmo shots are great! In case I hadn't beaten this horse to death yet, I always love to see a new Abom video, doesn't matter if the whole damn thing strobing like a disco. Even if my petty quibble is dismissed for what it is, I'm still gonna enjoy every upload.
You should invent a device that lifts the cutter completely off the material during the return pass. An actuator or mechanical lifter would protect your honed cutting edge. As a straight razor user, I am delighted to tell you that you are the first machinist to recognize the significance of a perfect cutting edge. Nice work for the millionth time!
Adam, you are a machinist by trade, however, your compassion for your work and determination and detail should qualify you as a double master machinist and a double master artist for the vintage machinery you demonstrate and show with good ole American craftsmanship. You inspire us all. Please say hello to Abby. Best wishes from Emily and Frank. We are fans of your TH-cam channel.
Man that rough pass chip pic that fills the frame is an epic desktop pic....any chance you would share that? It would also be an excellent mask for texture in Photoshop or Premier....awesome!
I like that Iscar 16 11 tool and cutter. Trying to find one now. I love to watch that Big Boy eat. People who have to pay $250-$350 for a set of precision ground stones, and don't have a friend who can "touch it up" worry about ruining the stones. I love the striated look of a shaper finish. Great machining, that's why I watch. See you in Part 2.
"They're not informed about this technique." What a polite way to tell a know-all they don't know what they're talking about 😂 Just one more reason to love you man 👍
Great work mate, the shape was always my go to rather than milling for parrellel work on large scale surfaces but you're a talented man. Keep up the great work mate from us machinists in Australia. 😉
I’d like to see how well the SLANR inserts work. I used them for the first time in some really tough A286 steel and they didn’t last very long for me, about 16 parts per side.
I understand how the casting process produces voids and hollows and you say for your purpose it doesn't have to have six perfect faces, but there must be occasions when it does, how much oversize would a casting have to be made to achieve perfection or should that casting be a reject and never have left the foundry?
There's always going to be opinions. I have no doubt you know your tools and won't do anything to break them. Also I love your work. I really had no idea what a "shaper" really was until I saw one on your channel (ok, I'd seen the tiny lil' baby ToT used to have, but I thought they were that size and only used for keyways), but for the past few weeks I've read things how they were used and all that and I do love the serenity that tool provides while working. It's hypnotic and the finish is so good looking. I wish I'd have a place like yours where to see those tools in action. I myself can't really do anything precise with my hands, but I can appreciate one who can. And also drool for the low tolerances!
As I was watching the scraper, my wife in the other room was trying to work out what was wrong with the computers sound. Then she thought it was watching start wars, and the noise was Darth Vader breathing! 😂
When you put in the finishing tool what was your step over set to??? Was it set to step over the thickness of the cutting edge of the tool. Curious as to why not 1/2-1/4 the tool thickness for finishing cut wouldn’t that give a better finish.
Now I know why the cast iron surfaces of my 1969 Lurem 260c top looks like that, I knew it was machined, just didn't knew what tool they used back in the day
Yes, technically, but it wouldn't be a good idea. Cast iron is brittle due to the impurities of the metal. It takes a lot of heat prep before you weld it, and then as you weld it you need to peen it to relieve the stresses. Metal shrinks as it cools so it might crack during the cooling process. The cooling process it self needs to be done in a controlled, slow manner like in a bucket of sand.
Man, I could sure use some help sourcing that Rex AAA for my shaper. Cannot be got in Europe, any suggestions in the United States of America? Thank you!
Adam, Very nice, funny how the plate you have on your shaper is the same size as the footprint of My atlas 7B, but it inspires to be bigger. Love the channel.
Would you be able to attach the camera to the clapper focusing at the very point of the tool? This would produce excellent view of the tool's journey back and forth. All the best!
The vice must be really tight with the jaw face being parallel with the stroke of the shaper think youd want the force of the shaper perpendicular to the face of the vice jaw ??? Guess the part dictates the position??? Those are some beautiful chips
18:03 - What do you do with all your scrap metal? Do you sell it to a recycling company so they can re-melt it down for new metal? And does it have to be kept in the same categories (so you don't mix different grades of metal)?
Adam. Please ignore how these “garage machinists” criticize your work. You are the expert and you do beautiful work.
You're right. We just have to do our best.
There are always different ways of doing things. I'm here to learn, not criticize.
I'm happy to see polish products on USA market 💪🏻💪🏻
That pic of the plate covered in the roughing chips would make an awesome jigsaw puzzle - expert level, fitting as it was made by expert level machinist!
That is a very nice result you are getting off the shaper.
Doing things that may be different to some is important to learn a new or different method of doing a task. That is how we all learn and grow. I am a woodworker but I have learned so much about accuracy and love the different perspective you offer to all.
Don't ever stop doing that!
Such a tease seeing the 25” shaper in the background. I can’t wait until he starts working on it!
After recording my first vid in a year, I get to watch a master work of a craftsman I respect.
Thank you Abom
I love when it clicks during the big step over cuts. Like a metronome/clock kinda calming little rhythm.
I was watching one of the shaper videos last night and it put my to sleep because of the rhythmic click
Raw animal power of a shaper is hypnotic I could watch it all day. Happy memories from well over 50 years ago. And those super slow mo. Wow.
Abom "It's meant to be used. Don't be afraid to use the stone for what it's meant for."
Exactly. Keep this in mind for every tool you have.
That is a big honkin' vise, wow. When I went through high school machine shop, I was the only student in a decade to use the shaper for anything, the shop teacher loved my love of learning about everything - most of the shop students were burnouts and menaces to society (and themselves).
As Adam explains that he still needs to cut the ends, I couldn't help but think to myself "I wonder if he'll cut them square this time."
Thanks for the great content Adam.
always loved watching shapers working , so relaxing . thanks
Abom79 is amazing. First is the absolutely gorgeous photo of the chips. Second he gives a master class in using the shaper, and honing the cutter. Wow! The wonder, the beauty, the greatness of the WWW is on display here. Now any machinist in the entire world can learn these techniques.
I'm not a machinist by any means. But I am an amateur maker and I love the videos you put out, and I am able to pick up new tricks and techniques in every one of your videos. Thanks for the content
I could have written exactly the same post.
I love watching the shaper. Id love it if you could find more unusual machines to purchase and show us their mechanical beauty too.
Thank you Adam I always enjoy watching your videos I am from South Africa 🇿🇦
It's such a pleasure to watch someone who takes so much pride in doing a good job, you are an excellent engineer sir and a beautiful job, as always.
I just love that “wood grain” effect the shaper leaves. Much nicer than the mill swirl marks we are accustomed to.
Shapers are like a purring cat... Love it...
Someone did mention this. I would love to see you rotate the table like +30 degrees and then -30 degrees for a spring pass and get a cross hatch pattern. Would that be possible one day?
Adam, there’s a company out of Nuevo, CA called Cal-Carb inc that fully grinds all their tool inserts. They surface, fixture, grind and hone every one individually. I worked for Curtis, the owner for a few years and it’s quite the process. Very interesting and extremely tight tolerances by use of J&L comparators. The surfacer is a Blanchard and the grinders are 1960’s Parker Majestics. If you want custom U.S. made, quality inserts, Curtis is your guy. Hand grinding is a dying trade even though tolerances are tighter than what these high output computer driven machines can produce.
nice work Adam. most people worry way too much about things they don't have experience with. It proves ignorance. You are a true professional.
I always love watching the big shaper in action. Thanks for all your great work.
You can send your crashed holder to Ultradex and they will repair it! That goes for milling cutters too!
When I was in college 45 yrs ago we had machine shop courses and we built a bench grinder and a wood vise from casting to finish that I still have and use. The one machine I hate to set up and use was shaper but after being viewer and subscriber for awhile now I developed a whole new appreciation for that machine. The shame of it is they have dismantled the machine shops and manual machines. They now have a few Cnc toys that they are making trivets on no foundry no manual set ups just programing and button pushing.
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience. I am a knifemaker and have just started learning some home machining.
Nice work! You do a great job of explaining the tools, the setups, and the methods for every process.
The shaper is a fascinating tool to watch, hypnotic almost.
Like staring into a campfire
I could watch that machine work all day. Love it man
Adam, very nice camera footage. Especially the slow motion. The cutting angle on the finishing tool looks a lot sharper then on the round rough cutting tool.
Beautiful. You could stack those finish cut chips like bales of hay...thanks for showing and explaining this really nice piece of work.
That slow motion you can see the rust dust just flying off the left side there. I am surprised that does not seriously dull the cutter. That cutter steel must be some pretty fabulous stuff.
Love the Iscar inserts. Shop I work for has Iscar in some heavy cutting lathe tooling and an adjustable boring head. Flat eats mild steel.
Love your channel Brother keep up the great work. Love from Illinois
A great video again! That slow-motion video from front reminds me of a train in big snow! Mr. Gentle Giant, you did well again!
Looks great. Super nice Finnish. Great tools. Excellent video on shaper. Thank you for sharing.
I noticed your new abor with the 50MM taper had a plastic ring on shank end. It helps prevent damage to your machine spindle when taking the arbor in and out . It's a good feature and not all 50 taper shanks have it.
something incredibly satisfying about the slow-mo
Nice relaxing watch as per usual Adam.
Highly informative and interesting work 👍🏼
I really hate to be one of those people in the comments who just point out one little bad thing in a video, so I'll do my best to point out all of what I loved about it first;
1. More Abom
2. More of the G&E (not that I've got anything against any machine in particular, in fact, its hard to pick a favourite)
3. All the tooling info thats gone into in as much depth as can be done without sending the average youtube viewer to the floor in a sudden deep sleep (thats more of a complaint about the average youtube viewer honestly)
4. The little lessons dropped here and there (don't expect perfection, from a casting at least. if the tools doing its job then its not being ruined)
5. The work that goes into getting the shots of the cutting. Theres so many angles, cuts, transitions, and the slow-mo footage must take a while if youve gotta find the nicest looking slowmo shot from one entire operation.
But heres the but, the flicker doesn't do the shots justice! I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that having a couple of giant high wattage constant current LED videography lights blasting down on you in the middle of a Floridian summer, suspended from cumbersome tripods which will no doubt continually get in the way, would be inconvient to say the least. But they'd let you see so much more of the cut. Regardless, the slowmo shots are great!
In case I hadn't beaten this horse to death yet, I always love to see a new Abom video, doesn't matter if the whole damn thing strobing like a disco. Even if my petty quibble is dismissed for what it is, I'm still gonna enjoy every upload.
You should invent a device that lifts the cutter completely off the material during the return pass. An actuator or mechanical lifter would protect your honed cutting edge. As a straight razor user, I am delighted to tell you that you are the first machinist to recognize the significance of a perfect cutting edge. Nice work for the millionth time!
(@1:16) - That’s a nice looking face mill right there; all shiny and new - just waiting to be put to work!😎
Adam, awesome video work love watching & enjoyed your new tools thanks for sharing your video.!.!.!.
another great video with the closed caption on as the machine works it says applause i could not agree more.!
I Enjoy the shaper as well. Good post Sir.
I love to watch that old shaper run. I would like to know how much faster will it run
Next time you make a pile of chips like that, the obvious next step is to swap the tooling for a small hand broom and let the shaper clean itself.
I lov your SNS Adam. Can't wait next video. 👍👌
Indeed looks super nice. Now on to the final part.
Adam, you are a machinist by trade, however, your compassion for your work and determination and detail should qualify you as a double master machinist and a double master artist for the vintage machinery you demonstrate and show with good ole American craftsmanship. You inspire us all. Please say hello to Abby. Best wishes from Emily and Frank. We are fans of your TH-cam channel.
I think you mean passion, not compassion.
K Francis thank you ... yes passion FXC, thanks for the correction.
That slow mo was awesome 👍!!
Man that rough pass chip pic that fills the frame is an epic desktop pic....any chance you would share that? It would also be an excellent mask for texture in Photoshop or Premier....awesome!
Attaching the camera to the shaper with a magnetic base would make a cool shot.
Yes ,but if one suffers from motion sickness. 🤢🤮
Doh, came here to say the same thing.
Hes got a couple videos of a view like that. Its awesome check it out.
Was just gonna say.... Need a macro capable cam to round it out
Ooohhh.... Nasty burn on the forearm!
Now Thats a vice !!!
Like to have that to put on my harbor freight $79 drill press 😀😀😀
Afraid it would crush my drill table .
I like that Iscar 16 11 tool and cutter. Trying to find one now. I love to watch that Big Boy eat. People who have to pay $250-$350 for a set of precision ground stones, and don't have a friend who can "touch it up" worry about ruining the stones. I love the striated look of a shaper finish. Great machining, that's why I watch. See you in Part 2.
21:38 "Along the back rake", seamless Abom ;)
I’m retired from aviation and now I get to be a sidewalk supervisor watching Adam and bothering no one 😎
Ever thought about putting a solid mount on the shaper to hold the camera focused on the cutting bit?
"They're not informed about this technique."
What a polite way to tell a know-all they don't know what they're talking about 😂
Just one more reason to love you man 👍
You only have sound on the left channel when you get going on the shaper. But then later you fixed that 😀
The reveal when you swept the roughing chips was like Christmas!
saturday night's man Abom!
This is at the frontier of productivity!
Really I was stare at shaper 5 minutes? YES! ... Because it is nice. :)
The chips from the roughing pass get my vote for chip of the week.
Great video and thanks for sharing! Stay Safe Guys!
Great work mate, the shape was always my go to rather than milling for parrellel work on large scale surfaces but you're a talented man. Keep up the great work mate from us machinists in Australia. 😉
I like watching this shaper . Therapeutic.
Just once put a boxing glove on the end of the shaper traverse.....
Dan-O LOL. I remember in my youth riding the shaper; that's like a HORSE!
One day when Machines take over the world the Shaper is going to be their Leader
your shaper sounds like someone snoring in The Flintstones cartoon
15:19 vs 15:23 is a good example of how photographic composition can make a mundane subject more interesting!
So now I know where the TARDIS engine sound comes from.
I know that is a fixture, but I see an AWESOME grill insert for searing off steaks and burgers!
I always liked sweeping the chips off a fresh cut :)
I’d like to see how well the SLANR inserts work. I used them for the first time in some really tough A286 steel and they didn’t last very long for me, about 16 parts per side.
I understand how the casting process produces voids and hollows and you say for your purpose it doesn't have to have six perfect faces, but there must be occasions when it does, how much oversize would a casting have to be made to achieve perfection or should that casting be a reject and never have left the foundry?
There's always going to be opinions. I have no doubt you know your tools and won't do anything to break them. Also I love your work. I really had no idea what a "shaper" really was until I saw one on your channel (ok, I'd seen the tiny lil' baby ToT used to have, but I thought they were that size and only used for keyways), but for the past few weeks I've read things how they were used and all that and I do love the serenity that tool provides while working. It's hypnotic and the finish is so good looking. I wish I'd have a place like yours where to see those tools in action. I myself can't really do anything precise with my hands, but I can appreciate one who can. And also drool for the low tolerances!
Hey, what about tying a gopro on the shaper head? It would be very interesting to see the tool cutting the iron =D
Question: How many tons of pressure is needed for that shaper to push through that cast iron?
As always great video.
As I was watching the scraper, my wife in the other room was trying to work out what was wrong with the computers sound. Then she thought it was watching start wars, and the noise was Darth Vader breathing! 😂
ROFL
The G&E makes pretty chips no matter which tool is mounted.
When you put in the finishing tool what was your step over set to??? Was it set to step over the thickness of the cutting edge of the tool. Curious as to why not 1/2-1/4 the tool thickness for finishing cut wouldn’t that give a better finish.
Love it gonna watch part 2 now!
Now I know why the cast iron surfaces of my 1969 Lurem 260c top looks like that, I knew it was machined, just didn't knew what tool they used back in the day
Man love that shaper work
Just curious Adam , have you ever tried to sprayweld holes like that...would it be possible?
Yes, technically, but it wouldn't be a good idea. Cast iron is brittle due to the impurities of the metal. It takes a lot of heat prep before you weld it, and then as you weld it you need to peen it to relieve the stresses. Metal shrinks as it cools so it might crack during the cooling process. The cooling process it self needs to be done in a controlled, slow manner like in a bucket of sand.
Man, I could sure use some help sourcing that Rex AAA for my shaper. Cannot be got in Europe, any suggestions in the United States of America? Thank you!
Adam, Very nice, funny how the plate you have on your shaper is the same size as the footprint of My atlas 7B, but it inspires to be bigger. Love the channel.
Hi from Aus. You should fit a clapper lift unit to stop the tool jumping on retract. if you want pics give me a message. BC
Would you be able to attach the camera to the clapper focusing at the very point of the tool? This would produce excellent view of the tool's journey back and forth. All the best!
You are the first person I've seen to use the EZE Lap diamond hones in a long time.
Wow Adam, that top down view of all those chips that you took for Chip of the Week would make an absolutely killer desktop background!!!! Great shot.
Or jigsaw puzzle
@@easternwoods4378 Slow down there Satan. 😹 That could make for an expert level difficulty puzzle!
15:24 perfect background for title screens and such.
Hi Adam, some mike issue from 6:33.....
Same here I lost sound on my left headphone still have sound on the right side though
The vice must be really tight with the jaw face being parallel with the stroke of the shaper
think youd want the force of the shaper perpendicular to the face of the vice jaw ???
Guess the part dictates the position???
Those are some beautiful chips
18:03 - What do you do with all your scrap metal? Do you sell it to a recycling company so they can re-melt it down for new metal? And does it have to be kept in the same categories (so you don't mix different grades of metal)?
You should mount a camera on the shaper so it follows the cutter like this 11:30 Great video! :D