Super Easy LS Oil Pump Install (Super High Mileage LQ4)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
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There is countless videos on the internet on how to install a oil pump onto your LS motor. Which is crazy because GM never really did anything special from the factory installing these.
Quick, simple and most importantly easy how to install a oil pump on your hotrodding LS project.
I’m using the 295 Mell pump with the stock installed spring.
Yeah people just need to follow Mellings instructions. If they say oil it, oil it. If they say rotate the engine 360 degrees, do it. Going beyond what a degreed engineer explicitly states is accomplishing nothing and is the truest form of ignorance. Melling literally makes oil pumps. They are the experts! Great video.
Couldn’t agree more 🙂
Couple flat washers stacked inside the bypass plug to make the spring a little tighter will easily give ya another 10-20 psi oil pressure and revive a oil pump that was losing pressure as well and yours looks good enough to do just that!
I’ve definitely heard of that method! Also, my oil pump was still good, it’s definitely sitting in the box on the shelf. Figured since I was doing a fresh build, the least I could do is a new pump 🙂
I like watching your videos. Your no nonsense use what you got available approach to building is fun to watch. Thanks
I am an ASE World Class Automotive Technician "Triple Master" and have 22+ Years Working Professionally. In all Brutal honesty I'm not going to say your incorrect and It's not that the internet made it over complicated. (The Smoke em procedure- when you tightened them down could of re-offset the pump gears lol) If you tighten the pump with shims installed you know it's perfect then you remove the shims. If you build an LS engine and you take extra care in making sure everything will come out flawless with your engine build you will shim the pump. This is by far one of the biggest issues with LS engines is Oil Pressure Problems in Pre-AFM/DoD and honestly even after... People aren't wrong when the pump housing has too much slack for the bolts and the gear CAN become uncentered and cause premature wear. You can not shim an oil pump and get 150k out of the engine. Or you can not shim the pump and get 20,000 miles. So why not make sure it's perfect. Not to mention I can't count with 100 hands how many times I've gotten inferior machined parts or defective parts and I want to make sure everything is set up flawlessly. It gives you the opportunity to look at the gears and making sure they mesh perfectly. Melling has a great reputation but everyone makes mistakes and all you can do is do everything in your power to take the time and not make them and throw the crappy parts at your service manager or if your at home family members.... lol... . Thanks for your video...
Thanks for the solid comment 👍
ASE world class? Lmao. Any moron take can pass an ASE test. That doesn’t make you an expert. GM and melling both say to just bolt it on.
I saw a video of a guy using a dual indicator on the end of the crank and if you push it down then it moves more than what you'd shim it anyway. So shimming is pointless
Even Melling own utube video pump install instructions say to do it that way, and they make the things. All they say is to prime them after instal before starting. Like you say maybe for prevention of problems later on for high horse power high output engines that want millimetre perfect performance should shim.
Yes you can reuse it. Just change change the pump gear and spring. Make sure it's super clean. The other thing is change that damn o ring on the pick up tube just under the pump
Definitely plan on attacking the oil pump ring when I go to fully install the Holley pan. Just waiting on a nice pretty day.
Where u get a pump gear n spring from?
@@saradeyo9434 That's a great question. Just get a pump from the junkyard and tear it open
One thing you missed was the piston on the end of the relief spring galley. You want to make sure it’s not getting jammed up with a small piece of debris. That can cause loss of oil pressure if it gets hung up. Everything else was great! Short sweet and to the point! 😎👍
Thanks!!! Appreciate it!
Yessuuhhh you can reuse the bump brother. I kept all my old parts just in case that wasn't the problem, or just in case I have the problem again😂
That was great advice on that oil pump like you said people suck on making vidoes and my 5.3 ls has 280.000 miles I bought a new oil pump for nothing and yes reuse the oil pump
Great video, man! Quick and to the point, great advice :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Every TH-cam video being an hour or more these days has been driving me crazy. It's refreshing to watch some shorter ones!
As much as I love hour long grind sessions, short simple to the point videos are also nice some days!
@@TKSpeedShop amen
Ive got an 07 5.3 Sierra and changing the oil i have what looks like bearings out of a universal joint cap stuck to the magnet on the oil pan bolt.could you tell me what might be going on with this please
Wait, like little needle bearings? If so, probably from the lifter. It’s common for those lifters to fail on DoD motors.
Ya real easy other than how you forgot the whole part of putting on the oil pickup tube
Check out my recent vidget on building a LS
excellent video.. common sense trumps everything!!!! Cheers!
He said he was installing the timing chain guide because he was lazy? I’m not gonna blast everything he did wrong I applaud him for wanting to help people ease the fears of installing an oil pump and getting wrong. I doubt not installing the guide might not cause issues right away but give it some time. I imagine once he gets some stretch things’ll be different
Great video informative
THANKS
I’m glad I was able to provide you with some information 🙂
thanks for putting information out and helping others
Should you fill the oil pump with oil first or is it ok not to? Kinda like the oil filter
I’ve always fill the pump. Just something to prevent a dry start. Now you can take the front plate off the pump and use assembly lube if you don’t plan on starting the engine for some time.
Keep up the good work, brother!!!
Yoooooo Appreciate the love and support brother!
Im in the middle of changing one out on a 99 4.8 with 70k miles on it. It was a government vehicle. When oil gauge showed dropping pressure and then none at all, i knew it probably wasn't a sensor. After draining the oil and pulling the filter, im not so sure now. Filter might as well have been filled with grease. Luckily im not seeing metal shavings. Good time to tear the heads off, it needs new gaskets as it was developing a leak on the exhaust side.😮
The ball and float above that spring wear out and allows oil to bypass decreasing oil pressure. The rotary gears never wear out. So did you just pull this one to clean and re-seal?
I pulled this one and boxed it for later on, I ended up going with a new one since the motor was completely freshen up. When I do a down and dirty budget rebuild or happen to have a failed oil pump in the future, I’ll be revisiting the one I pulled.
Might be a dumb question to ask but is there any difference between a 295 and a 296 Melling pump I have a 03 5.3P Chevy tryna see which one’s best any recommendations?
295 is a high pressure as the 296 is a high volume. Personally I run 295 pumps. Those pumps are a whole controversy topic😅
I say go for the 296 if you have a AFM/VVT setup as it requires more oil flow. If you don’t have any of that in your build or setup, just run the 295.
I think Mellings has a video showing this exact method
i like that stand
You make it look simple / great job thank you
Thanks!!! I really appreciate it!
When are U going to hookup the pickup tube?
It’s already installed, I’ve been working on another video following the complete breakdown and rebuild of one. For this one, since I used a 10295 pump, it had two provisions for 8mm bolts instead of 1.
@@TKSpeedShop the hardest part is putting the two. bolts back in the pickup tube with the pan still on.
@@donhardy7467 Oh most definitely, I am not against dropping the pan.
So the 296 pump is for dod and afm engines while the 295 is for engines without it ?
From a logical standpoint, yes. DOD/AFM need more volume to perform the functions.
@@TKSpeedShop I’m asking bc I have a 2001 5.3 getting a complete rebuild with single turbo I wanna choose the right one and not mess up
@Daredevil_boost the 295 is the way to go!
@Daredevil_boost plus I have a good bit of friends running 295s on boosted setups
@@TKSpeedShop thanks man
Nothing wrong with that used pump, clean it up and put it back together for the next build.
You can add a washer or shim in behind that spring for alil higher oil pressure.
It’s definitely on the shelf for the next build.
@@TKSpeedShop I have seen a few videos where guys took them apart and they were scraped or roughed up inside. All of mine so far looked like yours no matter the mileage still in good shape.
I’ve also seen that! Figured why not see for myself.
I'm feeling so old. I was curious as to longevity of the oil pump on my 2019 Silverado so of course I decided to TH-cam how to change it if I need. Here I thought it was as simple as taking off the oil pan like the old school oil pumps. The world is passing me by haha.
Rear main seal video plz 4wd
killer thriller
Thank you so much.
Awesome video. Straight to the point and helpful.
Do you have to turn the crank after installing it? I forgot to do it
GM recommends turning the crank a full rotation. This allows the gears to align. To be 100% honest, I don’t believe it matters much. Most people just throw them on and run them. Sloppy Mechanics also does it and he has thousands of hours inside these motors.
Moral of the story, it’s good practice but your good bro.
@@TKSpeedShop that’s great to hear I’ve been getting relieved and scared lol, half the people say always shim/spin crank, others say they’ve never done it and gm themselves doesn’t do it. Only thing I’m kinda relieved of is I’ve seen a lot of people say the crank is hard to turn over if it’s in wrong, and when I was installing my crank bolt it started spinning pretty easily so I had to hold the flywheel with a wrench to tighten it down, so hopefully that means it’s on even enough
You should be good bro, the shimming stuff is so controversial. Now I know some high performance pumps require shimming but when we are talking about OEM pumps or melling, it’s a simple bolt on and go. As long as your crank turns as it should, I wouldn’t worry about a thing 🙂
@@TKSpeedShop thanks bro, I’m 90% sure it turns really well, I’ll check again when doing the lifters because then i can turn it over with no compression at all, it’s my first engine so I wanna do everything perfect but everywhere I look I see different opinions and I don’t wanna have a easy thing I can avoid cause a problem,
Good video
good job 👍🏽!! only experts make it difficult, you make it easy , so does that make you better ! 😃--
Well done Sir , thank you for the info . If I may I'll be using the smokem also ! It made me laugh .
Man, that was cool !!! No Really.... Thanks
The internet isn't making it Complicated. There is a difference between an engine Assembler and an engine builder. To some, Making things Perfect is completely normal. It takes what? 3 Minutes. Plus you inside guy, That knows everything the factory does. Should have Considered the factory also Doesn't sell 1000hp lq4"s. You didn't need those aftermarket bolts eather did you? I wonder if someone is confused by that? Dam Internet! Except for my channel don't forget To like in subscribe leave a comment and ring the little bell ;) ;)
looks easy !.. cept dont pinch the oring or ya got a headache a comin
Never did see the oil pick up tube installed !
I was watching to see if I could change this without dropping the pan. But he didn't even put it on.
@BudgetPowerGarage I definitely got a more, in depth video coming. I can tell you it would be very difficult to do it without dropping the pan since the pickup on the bottom of the pump doesn’t move so you would have to press the pump onto it. Problem with that is, you have to also be able to get the pump onto the crank.
@jbdavis267 Sorry about that bud, but hey, I do have another LS that I will be breaking down on the channel soon. Got a list of stuff that people ask about. Gonna see if I can answer a lot of it in a video for you guys 🙂
Thanks bro
How about easy knock sensor replace
I might have to make a trip to a pull yard to make a video on that. It’s better to stimulate doing the swap with the motor in the vehicle.
Damn bro, you keeping loc tite in business with all that.
Sure do 😂 I don’t understand the meaning of a dab.
👍👍from this guy
Uh no pickup tube??
Ummm, what about the pickup tube,,,,, you didn’t put it on. You only did half the job.
Saturday/Sunday I’ll be dropping a complete video on a short block to long block LS build lol. I definitely go back and cover the entire oil pump/oil pick up.
“ I’m from green bow Alabama” - got the same accent. great video though.
💪🏽💪🏽
My 1st LS removal coming soon. #cdshawn
well apparently I didn't get the memo because when I put my new oil pump on a week ago I didn't do any of this I just put it on I've been driving the truck lol works just fine.
I don’t know where shimming the oil pump came from but, it isn’t required because GM never shimmed them from the factory. I can understand higher end builds and stuff 🙂
It's not so easy when the motor is still in the truck or car.
It’s definitely a hassle 😅
Especially when the truck is 4wd
especially when you don’t have a bluetooth pick up tube like this guy
😂
So simple till its on the vehicle and you gotta drop the oil pan to get to the pickup tube 😂
Pretty much 😅 it’s not that extreme if it’s in a truck since you kinda have clearance to drop the oil pan. In a F-Body it’s a different story 😅
4 wheel drive truck no fun to drop the pan you have to drop the front differential
Clean 🧼 that oil pump and send it
It’s definitely on the shelf 😂
Foot pounds is the correct American way to say it, im so iritated that grown men say it backwards likr European people, does not even sound right to say pounds feet ???
That pump is reusable. If it looks good then send it!!!
I actually have it in the replacement box 😂 I rnr it with parts cleaner and put it back on the shelf lol
Nice brother!!!
If you have any contact between the pump rotating parts and that pump housing, you're going to cause damage to the oil pump. That's why some people do the proper job and actually shim them in place. It's easier to do if you just take a one-and-a-half to two thousand shim and put it on the top, push put a 2000 Shem underneath and put it on lengthwise. You don't need to use three shims. Two long ones and put them in lengthwise one on top and one on the bottom. But doing this will cause damage about 30% of oil pumps that are put on that way. Do not listen to this man. Lucky don't cut it. Doing it right does.
It's a hell of a lot easier to do it right than it is to do it over!
GM never did from the factory nor does it say to shim them in the service manual. Built plenty of LS motors and never had a issue.
Thanks for commenting 🙂
If you want your opnion taken seriously learn how to spell shim and how to correctly write .002
dang you could have re-used that pump...
Don’t worry 😉 it’s in the box on the shelf.
I don’t know how to tell you this but when you put the oil pump on, then backed it out and “smoked them” with the impact then tried torquing it to 18 😂. That don’t work like that. You literally went over with the gun. Also good practice when tightening things like that is go cross directional. If you tighten with gun you never getting 18. Even the m12 electronic wrench tightens to roughly 30. You over torqued those bolts like mf.
Yeahhhhh I kinda thought the same. So far though, the motor is doing extremely well 🙂
@@TKSpeedShop it was very informative, congrats on the build.
Well, at least his dogs love him.
The oil pump needs to be centered no matter how much it flows or how much power you make. It literally only takes 5 minutes to do. Seems like such a careless mistake to make.
In the video, I cover aligning the pump after installing it loosely before torquing. Fun fact, Melling (the pump in the video) also does not shim their pumps per installation. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
Yeah super easy when you have the engine out 😡
It’s honestly not that bad when the motor is in the car/truck. Drop water pump, balancer, timing cover, then move to the bottom and drop oil pan along with the pickup tube. Just make sure you got some good tall Jack stands you trust 🙂
Yeah is not bad when you have awd 6.2 🤦♂️
Very easy 2wd but when is awd is not funn
Oof. I can only imagine 🥲
Yeah is hard because i have to remove lot stuff
He tightened them in the wrong sequence
Haven’t had one failed yet, thanks for commenting 🙂
Scratched bearings
60psi at cold and 40psi on hot idle since the build. Ain’t skipped a beat 👍🏼
I wouldn't do that. I think it has to be shimmed. This is an emergency fix with no tools.
Never had an issue doing it the way the manufacturer intended. Thanks for commenting 😁
Waiting for the pick up piece to be installed too..
I have a list of questions that people been asking so I’m going to be doing a in depth tear down and rebuild with a LS 🙂