The scene between Homelander and Butcher was unbelievable acting. Incredible range of emotions displayed in a scene that wasn’t even 2-3 minutes long. This show has some top notch acting
This one episode shows Butcher’s first real display of sadness and grief after so many accounts of only showing his unshackled ruthlessness. For that alone it’s already in top 5 eps of the series for me
Honestly, I was super gratified with how they handled him. They managed to explain why he was a s*xual assaulter and we kind of understood him, but he did a really shitty, stupid thing and the show just keeps kicking him for it 😂
The Deep was the one who gave Maeve the footage of Homelander and her. He found it in the ocean. That being said I agree he was kinda useless. The actor was hilarious tho.
@@mattearl149 i don't think so pal, Aquaman is pretty awesome in the comics especially if you have read the new 52 comics and the rebirth from DC. But yeah the Deep is kinda useless and an idiot also
Frankie Big Rings - He’s basically a superman copy in terms of his strengths. I doubt you can just snap his neck or break any of his bones for that matter.
@@BrandonGavin_EDC i'm pretty sure he can't even in the comics since when he was born they had a nuke near him, they just needed a much more efficient way to keep him controlled
lol, literally made a TikTok about this immediately after watching the episode XD like... it had to be a conscious design choice to have her look exactly like Anakin on Mustafar, right??
Alexandre Côté-Trotter It was too similar. Bald, missing half her arm and both legs, burned to a medium rare, angry. The missing eye and speaking German were new though.
Completely agree with Homelander. Starr is the complete breakout actor from this. He’s absolutely phenomenal. Especially during his monologue with his son halfway through. The complexity of his character is so damn good
Only compassion I've ever seen him have was over his son when the crowd swarmed him and he actually went out of his way to protect him and make him feel better. Definitely a complex character and I love what he does in the show.
I saw interviews for this show but his performance as Homelander has terrified me so much I was never sure when the actor Anthony Starr would just up and snap the necks of those around him.
Becca always had a bad time dealing with superheroes, Barry Allen and Homelander, and now Ryan had to loose someone very close to him, if only she had stayed with Barry things would have been different, but he can fix this......run Barry..... run!!!!!
The scene with Homelander jerking off onto the city was originally a cut scene from season 1. I’m glad they decided to use it in season 2. It was as funny as it sounded. Lol
@LokiTetch They can literally go the Injustice route with the story now. Which they have been hinting at the entire series. The day Homelander cracks. Even in the comics Homelander was never the real villain. It was Butcher and Black Noir. This series they seem to want Homelander to be the overall end villain.
@LokiTetch did we watch the same show? He's just about to snap :| I haven't laughed a single time over Homelander. He's the ticking timebomb where you never know how he's going to blow up.
I personally liked The Deep in this season because of his non-improvement character arc. He still doesn't know what he did wrong and hopes that other people will solve his problems, but it backfires because of his passiveness and the fact that he doesn't want to change. A-Train works a bit as a FOIL to The Deep by taking initiative and standing up for himself which immediately gets him back into the seven.
Deep sent airplane's video to Maeve, Deep invited A-train belong collective church that brought back his to Seven. Without airplane's video, I think probability Homelander would be kill everyone.
I don’t know, the deep is there to be pathethic and made fun of, which I felt was fine for season 2, but they could give him some reward in season 3. Not too much though. He still sexually assaulted star light in season one, and I feel like he needs to truly realise what he did and atone before any redemption, if any is possible.
@@ulyssesdecastro2261 True on all accounts but The Deep did all of that because he was asked to. Maeve approached him to get the camera footage, and while he did invite A-Train to the church it was A-Train that went behind their backs to leak the info about Stormfront. I'm not saying The Deep didn't play a crucial role in the season I'm saying he played a passive roll and as a character failed to improve or see the error of his ways which sets up viewers to start to feel sorry for him, but laugh at him as he starts to come off as comedic.
This is exactly it. Sometimes, Jeremy misses these things when he watches stuff thinking everyone should have something to do with the main plot/narrative. Other characters shine when they hardly get to do anything at all because they're only meant to be a showcase for certain theme. From the beginning, he was a character that was never meant to be involved in the main story, his purpose was just to exist and suffer for his deeds. It's not that they don't know what to do with him, they KNOW exactly what they need him for - he's a character that's doomed to want to be something more and never get it.
*Jeremy is completely missing the point when it comes to Becca's relationship with Vought.* She wasn't in a prison, she was in a *partnership.* They get to have a brand new sane version of Homelander, and she gets to raise her son in a 100% safe, controlled environment.That's why it was so easy for her to escape. The guards were there mostly to keep ppl out rather than to keep her in. She wanted to be there.
You're joking right? This could work if we didn't see heaps and heaps of soldiers, and even bloody helicopters flying around looking for her, not to mention the giant wall keeping her inside, her escape is insane and certainly not possible, not to mention the cameras everywhere?
Also, at first she didn't really have a way to go if she escaped, she can't go with her family since that's where Vought would search first, and they don't have a way to hide her. Now she knew she has Butcher who still love her and has been desperately searching for her, and fighting Vought with no fear. Second point, now she is very desperate mom who was robbed of her son by the most powerful man in the planet. Like f*ck all, there is only one way you get your son back, and that's risking everything.
@@oEXTRA Bad example- Butcher is a CIA black ops agent with expertise in infiltration. Him entering a secure facility(with gear Becca doesn't have access to btw) without being noticed is not out of character...
Keep in mind, up until the episode before the finale Ryan didn't know anything about the outside world. I imagine Rebecca wanted to stay there with Ryan to keep that illusion alive.
Love how Butcher was very seriously going to try and kill Ryan but whe Ryan chooses him over Homelander, Butcher realises that he's not like Homelander and decides to defend Ryan. He's just a man but he subdued Homelander. Love that scene
I was genuinely surprised by Homelander’s scenes with Ryan. Felt the most genuine he ever felt. He finally felt... human... which makes his character just that more terrifying.
Totally agree. I think down deep, he's looking for some link, a connection to humanity. He's also aware of has been done to him, you know, being raised in a lab, with no father figure, and how that affected him. I think down deep he wants his son to be better than he is. What a great character he is. I mean without these scenes, he would be just a cold blooded monster, evil god. But thanks to these little moments, hints of human emotions, he's so much more than that. I just don't understand we he's letting Vought control him. He kinda does the company's bidding. What do they have on him? He doesn't need Vought or The Seven to be loved by crowds. He's like a Captain America, being just a errand boy for some organisation, but he's got Superman powers. "I'm a Homelander, I can do whatever the fuck I want"... And yet, you don't
@@fiucik1 i dont think he wants his son to be better than him. I think what he wants is someone by his side for the day he snaps and runs the whole world
@@Saiyan1229 I don't belive that. Why do you think he desperately cares about people admiring him? He's the most lonely being on the whole planet. Sure, he thinks that he's a god, but he's in pain. He even says so to Ryan. And why do you think he fell for Stormfront. It's not like he liked her from the start. She showed him some kind of affection, and he immediately got involved with her. When you're starving, you'll gonna eat anything...
Ryan seems to be the only person he unconditionally cares about. Him taking Ryan away from the masses of fans was genuinely just him having good father instinct and putting that above his massive ego. I like how conflicting many characters are in the show. Especially Deep gives me a strange feeling because on one hand him forcing himself onto Starlight was unforgivable but it genuinely seems like he wants to improve and his love for sea animals is pretty adorable, even if it ends in those animals dying 90% of the time.
Made him less terrifying to me as he actually cared for his son even if he teaches his son in the worst ways. (Use lazers with hate, pushing him off the roof so he can activate his powers, taking him to a public area tht he isnt ready for) but he was there for his son when he broke down in tht restaurant and took him to a quiet place and gave him comfort with a relatable story. He genuinely seems to want his son not being brought up the same way he was.
Supes heal, yes, but Kimiko is on a whole 'nother level. She's Wolverine; neck snaps are merely an inconvenience. This is all just to say, Stormfront is not getting up any time soon.
@@jackalackb17 I expect that too. With a lot of political characters appear, sometimes I'm afraid that political storyline will eclipse the fantastical supes.
Homelanders acting was just phenomenal... Antony was definitely the Starr. The scene with him bonding with Ryan actually made me feel for him... Excited for season 3!
Homelander showed so much complex emotions this episode. I felt him when he arrived on Anakin-ized Stormfront, dude was genuinely sad seeing her like that. And that moment when Ryan took Butcher's side, he couldnt help but laugh while almost tearing up, ugh.. I can't help but want him to somehow have a genuine father-son relationship cause he was actually showing some humanity and effort on trying to become a good dad. Antony Starr did a phenomenal job.
I loved all of his reactions whenever Stormfront would say Nazi-ish things. When she was telling Ryan about white genocide, his reaction was pretty funny and also shows that he doesn't buy into Stormfront's ideology. He might be an asshole, but he's not a Nazi.
@@KevinACarroll1996 there was just the slight hint of distaste, like he doesn't actually care she says that stuff to him but that it could make an impact on his son made him uncomfortable
James Park ok I thought I was crazy, I automatically made the correlation of her exploding people an episode or two before the exploding heads so I was confused when it turned out it wasn’t her
James Park They did that on purpose lmao, Some part of me thought it was her blowing up heads but the other knew it wasn’t her, she’ll probably comeback in season 3 to do some shit probably push Newman into using her powers or some shit
Still pissed off that Karl Urban never got a sequel to Dredd. Such a great movie and showed just how much of a badass he could be (didnt even have to show his face)
I just went back and watched the courtroom scene again after knowing who it was and it lines up perfectly. Victoria's looking directly at everybody in the moment they die. From the first kill, she's staring right at him. When everybody gets up for the doors, she's sat seemingly in shock and visibly scanning around the room as heads are exploding ahead of her (like Shockwave). And when her assistant dies, it's when Victoria looks back to her for a brief moment as she's being dragged away. Then she checks on her assistant and falls back onto a seat overlooking the room once again. It's crazy how it was clearly in sight but yet I, or practically anybody, even considered the possibility that it was her.
I still don’t get it. What was the point of it? Why was she trying to cover Vought? Was she trying to help the church? Was she following her own agenda? Why did she kill the leader of the church?
I think what I love about that scene was a while ago the showrunners talked about a specific scene they had to delete in Season 1 because apparently it was too much it was Homelander masturbating on a building saying he can do whatever the fuck he wants and Amazon said it was too much. Then fast forward to now and when I saw it I was laughing so hard because I couldn't believe they convinced them to let them put it in.
@@ryushin6 You missed a crucial detail, which is the reason the scene didn't make it in during season 1. In the comics Homelander is standing on the top of the Empire State building and shoots his "super" load all over New York. They made a similar scene without that last part for season 2 which is what we saw.
@@amon__7187 I suspect that it was shot for season 1 because it's placement doesn't really fit, he was just defeated in so many ways, the timing doesn't add up to me.
The scene between Butcher and Homelander at the end is one of the finest dual acting performance i have seen on television in a long time. Antony Star shows us his acting abilities as usual while Karl Urban keeps proving he's the definition of an underrated actor.
People need to stop overusing the term underrated, the guy has millions of fans and even more dollars lol. He's doing just fine for a guy playing pretend for a couple months a year.
@@marcellogenovese199 so millions of fans makes someone good? i didn't know that. Tell that to the people who still consider Karl as a B list actor. I can't even remember seeing him in a mainstream movie recently other than the wasted side character in Thor Ragnarok. Karl was that under rated actor and he still is, but i hope that changes.
@@StruggleDraxProduction No offense, but Urban is 100% a B actor. His most impressive rolls to date are essentially playing a drunken Kiwi hooligan, which he is in real life lol, Bones from the garbage Kelvin star trek, which he is 100% just emulating DeForrest Kelley even if it's a decent impersonation and dread, which again, is basically the character depth of any 80's action prop. All he has to do is grimace. I like him, but people need to stop comfusing charisma with talent. Urban oozes charisma which makes him immediately likeable, that does not make him a talented actor, it makes him a very likeable actor. Just look at his filmography, he's been around forever and in some massive movies yet he's generally not noticed, that's because there were better actors around him. The Boyz has some god awful actors aside from Antony Star.
A-Train is supposed to be like an athlete who’s past his prime so he’ll do anything to keep it going, like use PEDs or some “weird shit” lol and he was also used to make us laugh at the Deep even more because Deep did so much for the Collective, A-Train barely did anything and he gets back in the 7 while the Deep doesn’t.
I think A-Train and The Deep represent and commentate on two interesting kinds of toxic celebrity personalities. The Deep is the vain Hollywood pretty boy with a sexual abuse problem, and A-Train is the troubled athlete with addictive tendencies. It's true what Jeremy says that neither had that much to do this season, but I think the two of them are less interesting as cogs in the overarching main plot and more interesting as individual characters going through their own separate stories that sometimes collide with what The Boys are doing.
I truly do believe either Starlight, Mave, or A-Train will die next season by homelander. Mave still has the video, starlight is working to get dirt or at least was for the second season, and A train got dirt on Stormfront, but I do believe A train probably won’t die because the church guy was the only one who knew and now he’s dead and the deep knew but unless the deep tattletales on A train and tell homelander to get into the seven which is possible but not likely.
Coolman Hahn I think A-Train did do some important dumb stuff at the beginning this season. Like ppl forget he let starlight tell everyone about compound V, but overall good take
Not gonna lie, at the very end when they show the closeup of Homelander doing the dirty I sincerely thought he was having sex with the remains of Stormfront's body, which was NOT a cool mental image, I'm glad it was just him doing a Gargoyle on the city.
Well, actually (Oh God! I’m that “Well, actually” guy), The Deep was the one who gave Maeve the footage from the plane, so he wasn’t completely useless this season.
@@Horacio_Poggi You would have to go back even further, because Maeve wouldn't have helped with the fight(Because Ellena wouldn't have left her) and I don't think Kimiko and Starlight had it to beat Stromfront. Actually Black Noir would have killed Starlight.
It’s not the eyes for me, it’s his mouth. His mouth keeps changing from “I’m happy” to “I’m confused” to “I’m mad” to “I’m gonna kill everyone on this earth” mouth. He moves his face so much man:
Can we just agree that *MOST OF US wouldn’t have expected Victoria Neumann to be the perpetrator of the heads exploding* ? Such a subtle superpower and it makes her really dangerous . The double plot twists of her first working together with Alistair the leader of the Church of collective and then killing him off and the second twist revealing it was her all along and she has her own political agenda to push or she was working Stan Edgar with Vought in secrecy Majority of the theories and speculations was Cindy , an extremely small supes fly and the fresca drink. The writers probably knew what we were thinking and went in a totally different route and it WORKED and made sense. Homelander is reaching the height of his insanity , it’s only just a matter of time when he lets lose. Just really props to Anthony star facial expression that carries so much weight and adds so much to his character, I felt sympathy to him and his relationship with Ryan , Homelander showing his humanity to his son being vulnerable was such a nice added layer of complexity to his conflicted character Karl urban Butcher , Stan Edgar , so on so forth the star talents of the shows never cease to amaze us. Such a great show that throws you off in unpredictable ways , and I hope and WANT to see more in Season 3.
I was totally convinced it was going to be Eagle the Archer using some kind of explosive arrows at super high speed from super long range on Edgar's orders and the church kicked him out because of that, but the twist that Neuman is a Vought plant is actually quite clever.
I think most people thought the church did it, Cindy seemed to obvious and it doesn’t make sense that she’d be blowing people’s entire bodies up but then only do heads in other scenes.
The issue is it makes no sense because her eyes go white. Meaning if she's in the court room and she uses her power someone hell even a camera would've have to have caught it. The only way it makes sense is if they cloned her then gave her v but only replaced her after the trial. Then the one guy with a ton of info on vaut just doesn't happen to know shes working for them? Really? Fuck not know shes a super assassin but he didn't know she was working for them. Just seems odd.
It makes sense it was her exploding heads. Because in every ep, stan edgar is watching the news wifh victoria appearing again and again. And then the final episode, victoria said vought is a coup, which is the same thing rayner had said in the first ep of s2
That was the best twist and I loved it! But the question is why did she kill all of her allies? Especially vogelbaum. He was the star witness in all of this. And the collective leader. He was her ally too. I'd like to know what he big plan is.
that's my fave thing about this show: HOW IT PISSES ALL OVER ALL THESE clear references (both Scientology and Christianity) and so many tiny shots! (ex: the line mocking Joss Whedon)
@@jonbongjovi1869 I know right! And the show creators have even come out and said that homelander’s character is largely meant to be analogous to Donald trump, with stormfront obviously the embodiment of the alt right, and homelander’s complacent acceptance of her dillusional world view due to the attention he gets from her directly mirroring trumps hesitance to meaningfully reject groups such as the proud boys. The intentionality behind the characters and ideas of this show and it’s explicit political messaging honestly makes it really fun to watch
Great episode. Loved Butcher's growth, I hope the kid comes back and eventually learns his powers. Nice symmetry with Butcher this time taking away the family homelander wanted as opposed to season 1. In some ways a lot of things were wrapped up. Makes you wonder how they'll handle season 3 since Vought is almost untouchable and homelander is just one final bad day away from ending everyone. Oh also get well soon Black Noir...
@@Hunterfalke i hope they don't do that. As of right now The Boys are sort of broken up, Huey is on his own, and he's still dating starlight... let alone Edgar and Homelander still have conflicts
@@kp1x Maybe, think I would be more vocal and confronting but I think its more interesting as a metaphor for uncomfortable politcal alliances, this is bullshit that even Homelander on at least some level knows is wrong
It was funny because he has been disagreeing with her for a minute, when she talks about not having to be onstage and having to cater to the crowds, he loves being loved. His B is crazy but so is he in a different way, I totally saw him killing her over this at some point.
@@gayatritripathisaxena7224 Also he was willing to die earlier in the season but was luckily saved. Huey already has good traits as a character and develops more positively by the actions he takes.
@@gayatritripathisaxena7224 you're thinking too literally dude. it was just used to show us that the boys, are willing to die for their cause and protect those they care about.
No, I got the Vibe that he’s just Completely Demoralised and Unmotivated to keep going. Ofc he’ll come back - - but as of now I think he’s going on a Retreat
@@watdaactalfuc Season 2 was underrated, same with the book Clash of Kings. Yeah compared to AGoT and SoS its not as exiting but Clash has some of the best actual writing Martin has done.
It's just unfortunate that the deep/aquaman have powers that are quite limited with their use. Their power can only be used when water and sea creatures in that water are there. THAT'S IT.
Fittingly enough, Billy and Homelander remains the MVPs of the show, both in terms of characterization and acting. Homelander had one messed up arc as well, and Anthony Starr just did it so fucking well.
Didnt he kinda do nothing this season? I remember him taking control with kimikos brother situation, then he had the chat with stan edgar. What else did he do that mattered this season?
@FarnsworthIII You do know that Kimiko never speaking is part of her character right, part of her whole backstory, and a direct carry over from the comic? Whatever. If it helps, if they follow the comic she'll probably open up more later with more of what we saw at the end and her laughing as she realized she wasn't afraid any more.
"Why didn't she escape earlier" because she wanted to stay. She stayed at that facility because it was safe. Even with Homelander knowing where they were, she needed to stay with Ryan, because a) Homelander would take them if they left the facility and b) she was lying to Ryan and lying to him ab out the outside world. That was the entire reason Ryan got angry and voluntarily left with Stormlander.
Theres healing and there is regrowing. People csnt tell the difference. When you cut me, i bleed, it scabs, it heals and disappears. For supes, like Stormfront. You hurt her, it scabs and heals and disappears but to a relative super level.
@@daoyang223 i mean you get the point right? When we talk about heroes your mind instantly thinks in super or superhuman, i mean in the wikis the listings go: speed (super) healing (super) etc
I really liked the 'Girls get it done' scene. They spent all season really ragging on the forced female power scenes in super hero movies (probably tossing shade at endgame), and then put the cherry on top of showing how to actually do that kind of scene properly. Turns out the proper method is 3 pissed off characters that youve spent 2 seasons developing literally curb stomping a Nazi is the recipe for success.
Becca didn't escape earlier because the whole point was that was the safest place to be, and her best chance at raising Ryan safely and properly. Even when Homelander found them.
@FarnsworthIII are you even watching real world?... any accusation like this and kid is going for DNA test due to media push... and that would prove its his son.... you are ridiculous
It's obviously no secret how good Antony Starr is as Homelander, but every time I watch another episode of this show it just sinks in more. Its one of the best casting choices I have ever seen in any media. Sometimes you watch a film or a show and think "ooh, I wonder what this person would be like in that role" but with this its impossible. Because he is just so perfect. Villains in other shows have an end goal and you know they will be working towards that, so you can rule out them doing certain things. Homelander is so well constructed you think he could do anything at any moment, he could just snap and kill hundreds of people. And that fear, that tension is sold impeccably by Starr. The definition of an electrifying performance.
The best thing is the fact that this tension comes from him being in character. Usually, when a character is unpredictable, it is due to their bad characterisation. Here, it literally IS his character, and i am so on board for this.
I'm honestly always waiting for Homelander to drop out of the sky and kill somebody. Everytime they do a close up and you see the blurry background my chest is tense.
Useless? The deep quietly pushes the narrative foward. It was the deep who found Translucent's remains. It was the Deep who recovered footage of the plane incident. Gell, it was the Deep that started Starlight's arch. He's a big part of why the story is happening.
@@user-gm4kv2my4u The issue is that all those events could’ve easily happened without him if they just did some minor tweaking. A civilian scuba-diver could’ve found the remains. Maybe the guy who recorded the plane incident uploaded the footage to a cloud drive before the plane crashed. Even though Deep did start Starlight’s arch, he gets cast out of it almost immediately after. Home lander or Translucent could’ve filled the role of a creepy/pervy hero trying to take advantage of her. All Deep does plot-wise is swim around and conveniently find evidence when the plot demands it. He doesn’t create conflict at all. He just floats around as a comedic relief character. Some people might like that, but he gets way too much screen time in season 2 for an easily replaceable filler character.
@@margarethmichelina5146 I instantly thought of Endgame too lol The Boys Girls kicking ASS made perfect sense here as the all had there reasons for being there. Endgame felt out of place
I loved when Maeve showed up and started fighting stormfront with them. Was such an epic scene. I thought, "that's what girls get it done means" then Frenchie said it lol.
@german uzcategui my thoughts exactly, watching that endgame scene thought this feels wrong. But Maeve showing up is like our old friend coming to the rescue alongside our other friends. The boys scene doesn’t feel like a statement it feel like our characters finally fighting back
Pro 92 that’d ruin the whole he could have been any one of us vibe. Ooo hughies mom is a supe, and actually he is related to the opposition, and actually.. cliche
Honestly not really hyped for season 3 lol?.. The boys have all gone their own way.. Butcher honestly feels pretty complete for now. It's definitely gonna be the season of build up while season 4 is gonna be the payoff.
Here is my pet peeve... Stormfront shoots lightning at many humans in the show, and KILLS them on the spot. But when she shoots lightning at Hughie and Frenchie in the finale, they just go flying backwards. Same thing happens in the Umbrella Academy. Power levels shouldn't be dulled just because it's happening to a protagonist.
She hit them with a very short blast but yeah you're right. Although I suppose the didn't think she had the time to fry them completely since she was fighting a 3v1
i agree that powers should be nerfed when fighting main characters, but you can't just kill off all the protagonists lol. i guess she could've just not shot lightning at them but they needed to be doing something
But even when she broke into the black families apartment she didn’t kill them just because of her lighting she threw the black dad into a fridge really hard. And when she toasts Cindy at the hospital she def did it longer than she did with the boys and the black dad. Her short bursts only seem to be more concussive than anything. Also might be good to not that there’s no set way in how these powers work cause even Ryan’s laser didn’t cauterize Beccas neck and kind of sliced it
Homelander was holding back and ryan had no control he just went all out I think stormfront dies and then homelander gets angry and kills the president and then gets killed by butcher
The “girl fight” scene just might be my favourite of the series. Still very fresh though but holy shit. Edit: The Deep is the perfect comic relief for this show & idc what they have him doing😂
The part about The Deep being so funny, I definitely agree there! The part during the Congressional Hearing, when The Deep was watching it on TV and he checked to make sure his own head hadn't been exploded was so funny because it just came out of nowhere.
Tbh I wanna see the deep go on an ark where he is pissed off that he isn’t “wanted” in the eyes of vought and he goes around finding all of these shunned supes who vought discarded and forms his own team to fight back against the 7 or other teams that are vought owned and he and the boys work together to take down vought
@@aaaadit5155 all part of their reverse psychology marketing strat *taps forehead In any case, I know about Fresca now when I didn't before and if thats happening to a lot of other people, its a win in Fresca's book. Right?
THAT didn't ring true! I don't know anyone who hates ALMOND JOY!! Bit-O-Honey and the other, okay. I thougth the Fresca was fake Product Placement, right? (Fresca's GREAT. but only once a year.)
Ryan lasered her makes those theory about stormfront can stand toe to toe against Homelander debunked immediately, also all of those twists man, this episode is definitely one of the best if not the best
@@CattanCondy a angry child with no control of natural born powers. I see it as he is stronger then Homelander and he doesn't have control of his power.
Episodes 5-8 of this season were genuinely some of the best TV I’ve ever watched. It took awhile to get going but my god it was so good when everything came together
I'll have to give season 2 a try then. I was extremely disappointed by season 1, especially after all the hype. Loved all the actors though so I'll give S2 a shot.
Spoiler for comics The girl beating stormfront is how butcher , mm and Frenchie killed STORMFRONT in comics by repeatedly kicking him . I like that reference from comics (they all took compound V)
"Supes heal" is not why Kimiko survived her neck being broken. Her power seems to specifically be regeneration, a la Wolverine or Deadpool. I don't think we've seen the last of Stormfront, but it wont be because she super heals and gets back into the action.
They used it only twice this season. And it failed one time when they tried to blackmail Lamplighter in the flashback. Not sure what everytime you're referring to.
@@sharilshahed6106 nah man they're literally using it constantly Starlight trying to blackmail Stormfront in the van at the start of the season, Maeve trying to blackmail Homelander several times, one right into his face, Stormfront getting literally blackmailed in front of everyone, blackmailing of Lamplighter and there were some other moments but I won't remember it straight away Blackmail is a fine tool but not when it used as an answer to literally everything cause otherwise it's just getting lazy
@@sharilshahed6106 It wasn't just used twice, I'm fresh from binging the season and it was definitely more than twice. It's not even blackmail strictly, it's bargaining-esque stuff like when Becca allowed Homelander to visit his son if he let Butcher live, or when Butcher met with Edgars.
How do you hurt someone that is invincible? You hurt what they care about. In the case of Homelander, he cares only about his image and how others see him. If Homelander was a villain, and didn't care about anything, he'd be nigh unstoppable. He would just kill whoever got in his way and there'd be nothing to blackmail him on.
i actually didn't like this season that much , most of it feel like filler , maybe it was supposed to be longer like 12 ep or something , it felt both slow and rushed at the same time
@@RED01SEA I definitely disagree on many levels. A lot of those "filler" moments, are moments where the show slows down to have character growth. The world has been built by now. Season 1 did an excellent job of that. Season 2 got to really dig deep on it's characters. Homelander's EXCELLECT character development would not have been possible had the show not been as slow in places as it was.
I was not expecting the human popper to be who it was. Holy shiet now that’s a twist. I went back and watched the head popping scene and could see it was actually her ahaha
@@zaprese that person acted shocked and didn't leave the hearing so all targets can be eliminated alongwith some random ones to cause confusion regarding perpetrator. It also stared all targets that were eliminated.
@Shaq4real agent was about to tell about some coup inside vought to the boys . she was onto something but couldn't understand it completely because of some information that she lacked. When they told her about the supe who arrived in the cargo, she finally understood what was going on. Most plausible explanation is that since she is actively working on project to control supes, she started partnership with that spokeswomen who actively opposed supe involvement in sensitive matters. But she felt that something was off. the information from boys provided full picture and that she realized that spokeswomen is a fraud. But spokeswoman was tracking her and before she could tell them anything, she was assassinated.
I don't like how the congress women's eyes turned white when she used her powers at the end. They didn't do that during the scene with all the exploding heads, and if she can do it without white eyes why randomly give them to her when she uses her powers. If i go rewatch the head exploding scenes and i missed her eyes going white then i take this back, but i don't think they did.
Nope. You are 100% right. I was waiting this whole time for someone to say something like this...when they showed her eyes up close, I said, wait, her eyes were NOT like that during the Congressional hearing. She was literally sitting next RIGHT NEXT TO THE SPEAKER WHO GOT HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF FIRST....
I disagree, I think this season far exceeded the first. For example, the gripe you had with Becka escaping seems misplaced. They never said she couldn’t physically get out, it was due to the need for Ryan to grow up in an ideal place so he didn’t turn into the next Homelander. Once Ryan’s not there, of course she’d leave.
To each their own but I didn't think this season was even close to as good as the first season. Sure it had some great moments, but it was inconsistent whereas the first season was consistently enjoyable for me
I agree. I think Season One did a great job with world building but Season 2 did a great job with character development. Every character has gone through some sort of arc this season and it makes me excited to see how shit ends up next season.
This season had terribly inconsistent writing, such as Maeve appearing out of nowhere twice, congresswoman's inconsistent powers, stormfront's nazi secrets (a-train searched this super secure facility but not her apartment which has the same doc?) Stormfront, one of the strongest superheroes, doesn't kill any of the boys despite zapping them with electricity. She would definitely kill them, especially MM because she's a racist. She's also immune to bullets, explosions, and crowbars. Except knives, apparently. She can take hundreds of bullets but a single knife, game over. It's disappointing considering how good and realistic the first season was.
Also there's a hint that Becca is actually a well trained professional at one point, she's the one who suggest the truck route escape trick to Butcher, means that she know the ins and outs of the compound. She might actually planned to escape when shit hits the fan. And yeah seeing Butcher finally taking in his supe son is really moving and really feel natural because he might be not fully sincere because of the promise with becca. And Homelwander was wonderful asf.
_Erinnerst du dich an den Tag Frederick, Chloe hat die Arme aus dem Autofenster gestreckt. Wir haben den perfekten Platz am Fluss gefunden, im Schatten eines Apfelbaums. Es war das erste Mal, dass Chloe frische Äpfel gegessen hat._ *Do you remember the day Frederick, Chloe put her hands out of the car window. We found the perfect place at the river, in the shadow of an apple tree. It was the first time that Chloe ate fresh apples.* - Reddit.
@@fleeceblanket9515 Sympathetic? I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to feel sympathy for her, because beyond "she loves her daughter" there is literally nothing good about her. Literally nothing. Anakin, meanwhile, is let down by the order he was raised by, trying to save his wife from the same fate as his mother, and most importantly WASN'T ALWAYS A MASSIVE RACIST WHO BELIEVED IN PURIFYING THE GENE POOL. I'm not dissing on her as a villain, she was a good one, but you were never supposed to sympathise with her.
The Deep is just a side comic relief character. And honestly, I aint mad about it. I enjoy every pointless scene with him. But at the same time, The Deep is the reason why Butcher was saved and also the reason why my boy A-train is back in The Seven lol
In Breaking Bad, Walter made a deal with Hector Salamanca to defeat Gus Fringe. In The Boys, Butcher made a deal with Stan Edgar to defeat Homelander. Interesting parallel 😁
I don't think the church was character purgatory, I think it was more of a misdirect. Everyone was thinking the church was behind the attack at the capital.
Or it's its own b plot. Not everything has to be interconnected. The show is a satire, and it satirises many things, one of which is manufactured redemption on celebs. The show is blatantly, in your face anti corporate, anti capitalist satire, not an endless nonsense of lore and deep conspiracies.
I was expecting Stormfront's brain to pop out at that point like in the comics (where Love Sausage does the same sort of Arya Stark teleporting thing a decade earlier, even if they attempt to explain it afterwards), and then for Homelander-Ryan-Becca-Butcher confrontation to be its own thing.
Counter argument to first topic: Becca talked about it how she enjoyed her time there because Ryan was happy, and the reason she didn’t leave After homelander found out was the fact that homelander could just find them super fast
My favourite part of the finale was A-Train getting his spot in the Seven back and the Deep says, "I'm back too right? Right? I'm anti-Nazi." The way he says it with such high hopes is hilarious to me.
Ryan be like "dad, I'm pretty sure this guy wants to murder me with a crowbar, and I still feel safer with him than I do you." I also think that Ryan seeing what happened to his mother, will ultimately help him understand why he needs to control his powers and protect people. because he's now felt firsthand, the pain and sorry he can cause by not maintaining control of himself. Much like Jonathan Kent's death, the death of Becca butcher, will set her son on the path to being Earth's protector.
I really enjoy the superhero media starring characters who have the stereotypical characters (the fast one, aquatic one, the Batman character), and analyze the real-world consequences of superpowered beings in our world. Watchmen, Invincible, and The Boys all do this masterfully.
Becca never wanted to be with butcher when she found out aboht ryan. Thats why she didn't leave until now. Homelander clearly actually cares about ryan even if he sees him as his object. I think thats why he didnt do anything to Butcher or Maeve. I dont think he wanted to kill people infront of his son, and also really was angered that his son so young killed someone just like he did.
Naw, She didn't leave with Butcher because he was going to abandon Ryan. And the reason she didn't leave with Ryan herself is because Ryan is too important to Vought. She needed Butcher's help to get out with Ryan. And the reason why Homelander didn't kill Butch and Maeve is because he cares more about the attention and love from people because he never received actual love when growing up. Having people love him is all that matters to him. He doesn't care about his son, Homelander cares about being alone. That's why he kept forcing Ryan to use his powers and why he was in a relationship with Stormfront. He is a god and so he needs someone to relate with him. If Ryan didn't have powers then Homelander would have forgotten him.
@@slyreject8370 honestly i think there's a lot more good in homelander than even he wants to admit. Talking with his father and crying, genuinely having a heart to heart with ryan, and his talk with becca about how he doesnt want ryan to end up like him. Seems pretty certain homelander can be good but he's just mentally breaking. His father (pretty much) died in front of him, his girlfriend died infront of him (however crazy she is), his son was taken from him, and everyone showing him he actually has no control what so ever over his life. I think he could be good if he wasnt so broken
@@shihi51 I disagree. It does look like there are signs of good in him but his actions in season 1 and 2 say otherwise. In the comics he did try to become a hero but he failed. So he gave up. I know at this point the show is doing things different from the comics but they're on the same path. Homelander does want to become something more but he doesn't try to.
No, he was angry because he found out Vought/Stan Edgar wants to take away his son from him, and now even Stormfront is locked up by Vought. That's way Homelander jerk off during the last scene and said he's the one in control, because he felt powerless against Vought, Vought literally controls him.
@@shihi51 he is a narcissist and craves love and attention. having a son is the ultimate form of getting what he wants, not only do children love unconditionally and crave attention from their parents constantly, he is a mini version of himself, and he loves himself above all others.
The difference between her and Cindy is Cindy uses her hands and psychokinesis to rip doors off the hinges, Victoria pops heads through sight and can’t levitate/manipulate objects or use Psychokinesis
Edger is the main villain in this show. I have no doubt now. In the final scene of the whole show Homelander will kill him or die along with him. That's for sure.
Rip to the guy who had to face the wrath of homelanders nut
Lol
During that scene I was waiting for him to nut and create a meteor crater impact with it.
I was expecting eye lasers when he finished 🤣
Cifer Null well i think his sperm work like normal humans or else becca would be dead not pregnant unless his sperm are a pregnant sniper
😂😂
The scene between Homelander and Butcher was unbelievable acting. Incredible range of emotions displayed in a scene that wasn’t even 2-3 minutes long. This show has some top notch acting
That scene where, we as an audience don't know which side we should take. Total dilemma for me personally
Butchers face before homelander comes in was mind-blowing.
True
So true.. on the other side maeve made me cringe hard in the scene where the girls were kicking stormfront
This one episode shows Butcher’s first real display of sadness and grief after so many accounts of only showing his unshackled ruthlessness. For that alone it’s already in top 5 eps of the series for me
Can Anthony Starr just get an Emmy for this role?
The man has clearly earned it.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache you’re just everywhere
Can you survive without TH-cam?
@@kissmyaxe9121 yrah its scary
He's too good for an Emmy, they don't deserve him. Plus, awards these days don't mean anything anymore.
Antony* Starr, not Anthony
I couldn’t care less if the deep was useless he was consistently hilarious
This is how I view myself
His somewhat redemption, weird religious story was hilarious.
I hope season 3 either makes him a villain/join the boys(like Starlight)
Honestly, I was super gratified with how they handled him. They managed to explain why he was a s*xual assaulter and we kind of understood him, but he did a really shitty, stupid thing and the show just keeps kicking him for it 😂
exactly
Butcher's advice to Ryan was priceless.
A genuine laugh out loud moment! - glad someone else agrees.. 🤣
But if Homelander didn't arrieved at time I thought his try kill the kid.
Some people: A father cant possibly give all the wisdom that his son will need in life in just 1 setnence.
Butcher: *Hold my crowbar*
@@ulyssesdecastro2261 Yeah I thought that he will either kill the kid or break stormfronts head with that crowbar
Well it is the best advice to give a kid 😂
"what did the deep do" he retrieved the video that blackmailed homelander.
Yup. Anything else had no effect on the series. I love this show so much but there are a loooot of unnecessary things happening
He pretty much saved Butcher's life
Forgot about that
He also put Lucy is harms way. RIP Lucy
Oh yes. I totally forgot about that.
The Deep was the one who gave Maeve the footage of Homelander and her. He found it in the ocean. That being said I agree he was kinda useless. The actor was hilarious tho.
He could’ve used that to get into the seven if he’d gone to Stan Edgar
Yes, c'mon, no Deep no party. Whom would we be laughing about, otherwise? :D
I feel like the deep is supposed to be pointless and it’s a more meta joke about Aquaman from the comics being useless
@@mattearl149 i don't think so pal, Aquaman is pretty awesome in the comics especially if you have read the new 52 comics and the rebirth from DC. But yeah the Deep is kinda useless and an idiot also
kiran babu you are both right.
Its not that "Sups heal" , Its Kimiko's has healing factor like Wolverine. Shes the only Sup we know that can come back from a snapped neck
If so why not use the nock out gas and snap homelanders neck
@@frankiebigrings7048 His skin and bones aren't able to break in the first place
Frankie Big Rings - He’s basically a superman copy in terms of his strengths. I doubt you can just snap his neck or break any of his bones for that matter.
Home lander can withstand a Nuclear explosion. I don’t think they can break his neck.
@@BrandonGavin_EDC i'm pretty sure he can't even in the comics since when he was born they had a nuke near him, they just needed a much more efficient way to keep him controlled
Stormfront looked like she’d lost the high ground to Obi-Wan Kenobi.
🤣🤣
lol, literally made a TikTok about this immediately after watching the episode XD like... it had to be a conscious design choice to have her look exactly like Anakin on Mustafar, right??
Alexandre Côté-Trotter It was too similar. Bald, missing half her arm and both legs, burned to a medium rare, angry. The missing eye and speaking German were new though.
@@timboslice9905 I mean, the Empire in Star Wars was styled after the Nazis so it's pretty fitting.
Mirror Zone True.
Homelander having a conversation with Ryan,telling him how he didn't have anyone to teach him was soo good.
He should win an Emmy for this season. So damn believable as a terrifying, yet somewhat relatable character. Insane how good he is in this role.
That was the best scene of the 2nd season probably.
It’s crazy because you almost feel bad for the dude
@@tornado0925 I do. Its sad
True... for a second he looked like a good person...
Completely agree with Homelander. Starr is the complete breakout actor from this. He’s absolutely phenomenal. Especially during his monologue with his son halfway through. The complexity of his character is so damn good
Only compassion I've ever seen him have was over his son when the crowd swarmed him and he actually went out of his way to protect him and make him feel better. Definitely a complex character and I love what he does in the show.
The way he screamed "where's my son" was terrifying
I saw interviews for this show but his performance as Homelander has terrified me so much I was never sure when the actor Anthony Starr would just up and snap the necks of those around him.
watch Banshee. He plays the lead character and it's awesome
Becca always had a bad time dealing with superheroes, Barry Allen and Homelander, and now Ryan had to loose someone very close to him, if only she had stayed with Barry things would have been different, but he can fix this......run Barry..... run!!!!!
The scene with Homelander jerking off onto the city was originally a cut scene from season 1. I’m glad they decided to use it in season 2. It was as funny as it sounded. Lol
That's why he looked so weird? At first I thought it was a different actor, but now it makes sense if that scene was filmed years ago and never used.
@LokiTetch you're out of your mind if you don't think H.L is threatening.
@LokiTetch They can literally go the Injustice route with the story now. Which they have been hinting at the entire series. The day Homelander cracks. Even in the comics Homelander was never the real villain. It was Butcher and Black Noir. This series they seem to want Homelander to be the overall end villain.
@LokiTetch "he can't do anything to anyone" The very first episode of S1 he LAZER EYED A PLANE 👀
@LokiTetch did we watch the same show? He's just about to snap :|
I haven't laughed a single time over Homelander. He's the ticking timebomb where you never know how he's going to blow up.
I personally liked The Deep in this season because of his non-improvement character arc. He still doesn't know what he did wrong and hopes that other people will solve his problems, but it backfires because of his passiveness and the fact that he doesn't want to change. A-Train works a bit as a FOIL to The Deep by taking initiative and standing up for himself which immediately gets him back into the seven.
Deep sent airplane's video to Maeve, Deep invited A-train belong collective church that brought back his to Seven. Without airplane's video, I think probability Homelander would be kill everyone.
I don’t know, the deep is there to be pathethic and made fun of, which I felt was fine for season 2, but they could give him some reward in season 3. Not too much though. He still sexually assaulted star light in season one, and I feel like he needs to truly realise what he did and atone before any redemption, if any is possible.
@@ulyssesdecastro2261 True on all accounts but The Deep did all of that because he was asked to. Maeve approached him to get the camera footage, and while he did invite A-Train to the church it was A-Train that went behind their backs to leak the info about Stormfront. I'm not saying The Deep didn't play a crucial role in the season I'm saying he played a passive roll and as a character failed to improve or see the error of his ways which sets up viewers to start to feel sorry for him, but laugh at him as he starts to come off as comedic.
Honestly if anyone should have killed himself, it should have been The Deep, not Lamp Lighter. Although they both have equally horrible costumes.
This is exactly it. Sometimes, Jeremy misses these things when he watches stuff thinking everyone should have something to do with the main plot/narrative. Other characters shine when they hardly get to do anything at all because they're only meant to be a showcase for certain theme. From the beginning, he was a character that was never meant to be involved in the main story, his purpose was just to exist and suffer for his deeds. It's not that they don't know what to do with him, they KNOW exactly what they need him for - he's a character that's doomed to want to be something more and never get it.
*Jeremy is completely missing the point when it comes to Becca's relationship with Vought.*
She wasn't in a prison, she was in a *partnership.* They get to have a brand new sane version of Homelander, and she gets to raise her son in a 100% safe, controlled environment.That's why it was so easy for her to escape. The guards were there mostly to keep ppl out rather than to keep her in. She wanted to be there.
You're joking right? This could work if we didn't see heaps and heaps of soldiers, and even bloody helicopters flying around looking for her, not to mention the giant wall keeping her inside, her escape is insane and certainly not possible, not to mention the cameras everywhere?
@@ashdam9561 how is it impossible when Butcher literally broke in and out no sweat?
Also, at first she didn't really have a way to go if she escaped, she can't go with her family since that's where Vought would search first, and they don't have a way to hide her. Now she knew she has Butcher who still love her and has been desperately searching for her, and fighting Vought with no fear.
Second point, now she is very desperate mom who was robbed of her son by the most powerful man in the planet. Like f*ck all, there is only one way you get your son back, and that's risking everything.
@@oEXTRA Bad example- Butcher is a CIA black ops agent with expertise in infiltration. Him entering a secure facility(with gear Becca doesn't have access to btw) without being noticed is not out of character...
Keep in mind, up until the episode before the finale Ryan didn't know anything about the outside world. I imagine Rebecca wanted to stay there with Ryan to keep that illusion alive.
Love how Butcher was very seriously going to try and kill Ryan but whe Ryan chooses him over Homelander, Butcher realises that he's not like Homelander and decides to defend Ryan. He's just a man but he subdued Homelander. Love that scene
Gotta admit, when Ryan refused to go with Homelander and stood behind Butcher instead was crazy intense.
I was genuinely surprised by Homelander’s scenes with Ryan. Felt the most genuine he ever felt. He finally felt... human... which makes his character just that more terrifying.
Totally agree. I think down deep, he's looking for some link, a connection to humanity. He's also aware of has been done to him, you know, being raised in a lab, with no father figure, and how that affected him. I think down deep he wants his son to be better than he is. What a great character he is. I mean without these scenes, he would be just a cold blooded monster, evil god. But thanks to these little moments, hints of human emotions, he's so much more than that.
I just don't understand we he's letting Vought control him. He kinda does the company's bidding. What do they have on him? He doesn't need Vought or The Seven to be loved by crowds. He's like a Captain America, being just a errand boy for some organisation, but he's got Superman powers.
"I'm a Homelander, I can do whatever the fuck I want"... And yet, you don't
@@fiucik1 i dont think he wants his son to be better than him. I think what he wants is someone by his side for the day he snaps and runs the whole world
@@Saiyan1229 I don't belive that. Why do you think he desperately cares about people admiring him? He's the most lonely being on the whole planet. Sure, he thinks that he's a god, but he's in pain. He even says so to Ryan. And why do you think he fell for Stormfront. It's not like he liked her from the start. She showed him some kind of affection, and he immediately got involved with her. When you're starving, you'll gonna eat anything...
Ryan seems to be the only person he unconditionally cares about. Him taking Ryan away from the masses of fans was genuinely just him having good father instinct and putting that above his massive ego.
I like how conflicting many characters are in the show. Especially Deep gives me a strange feeling because on one hand him forcing himself onto Starlight was unforgivable but it genuinely seems like he wants to improve and his love for sea animals is pretty adorable, even if it ends in those animals dying 90% of the time.
Made him less terrifying to me as he actually cared for his son even if he teaches his son in the worst ways. (Use lazers with hate, pushing him off the roof so he can activate his powers, taking him to a public area tht he isnt ready for) but he was there for his son when he broke down in tht restaurant and took him to a quiet place and gave him comfort with a relatable story.
He genuinely seems to want his son not being brought up the same way he was.
The Deep is hilariously stupid in every scene, I could watch those scenes for hours.
Yeah the Deep is definitely the comic relief
He would make a great super hero in marvel universe
He instantly changing what he says just because he wants to not be stared upon is hilarious 😄
I don't know which character I love more in this show, Homelander or The Deep.
I agree, he is derpy and it's great, him and homelander are awesome, too bad they have to be in this downhill spiral of a show
The deep found the tape, that saved everyone from homelander, in the end.
But that was still a passive act, he not even knew what that tape was, he was just trying to get his job back.
Like the rat in endgame, unsung heroes haha
Exactly my thoughts! F%^# Fresca!
Supes heal, yes, but Kimiko is on a whole 'nother level. She's Wolverine; neck snaps are merely an inconvenience. This is all just to say, Stormfront is not getting up any time soon.
I'm hoping for some kind of wolfenstein, mecha nazi Stormfront.
She dies and comes back to life so more serious than just an inconvenience but still she's a beast
And then Limb dude is on a whole 'nother level from that!
@@jackalackb17 I expect that too. With a lot of political characters appear, sometimes I'm afraid that political storyline will eclipse the fantastical supes.
Fingers crossed
Homelanders acting was just phenomenal... Antony was definitely the Starr. The scene with him bonding with Ryan actually made me feel for him... Excited for season 3!
With you. I love that they give Homelander some humanizing moments. It really sells how much of a monster he can be.
Homelander’s definitely one of the best antagonists in live action comicbook properties ever, this episode sealed that deal
Homelander showed so much complex emotions this episode. I felt him when he arrived on Anakin-ized Stormfront, dude was genuinely sad seeing her like that. And that moment when Ryan took Butcher's side, he couldnt help but laugh while almost tearing up, ugh.. I can't help but want him to somehow have a genuine father-son relationship cause he was actually showing some humanity and effort on trying to become a good dad. Antony Starr did a phenomenal job.
I loved all of his reactions whenever Stormfront would say Nazi-ish things. When she was telling Ryan about white genocide, his reaction was pretty funny and also shows that he doesn't buy into Stormfront's ideology. He might be an asshole, but he's not a Nazi.
@@KevinACarroll1996 there was just the slight hint of distaste, like he doesn't actually care she says that stuff to him but that it could make an impact on his son made him uncomfortable
Who ever directed the head exploding scene is a genius.
See Kingsman director...
So what was up with the chick that escapes the mental institution that was exploding people? I thought it was her and now I’m confused
@@sambo806 She'll probably/obviouscly come into play in season 3. It did seem a bit weird for them to let that hang with no explanation.
James Park ok I thought I was crazy, I automatically made the correlation of her exploding people an episode or two before the exploding heads so I was confused when it turned out it wasn’t her
James Park They did that on purpose lmao, Some part of me thought it was her blowing up heads but the other knew it wasn’t her, she’ll probably comeback in season 3 to do some shit probably push Newman into using her powers or some shit
Stormfront got Anakined.
So is Lamplighter.
@@zincmercuryplatinum6012 But only one will survive.
But ... but ... she had the high ground... IT MAKES NO SENSE!
Fax always keep the high ground lmao
@@hellfish2309 Obi Wan would be the same if he had not counterattacked at Anakin's flip over him. Anakin almost made it.
Still pissed off that Karl Urban never got a sequel to Dredd. Such a great movie and showed just how much of a badass he could be (didnt even have to show his face)
They've been trying to do a show and still talking about a sequel
Don't forget the Almost Human tv series.
Your damn right
Bring on dredd II
Dredd was a great movie.
I just went back and watched the courtroom scene again after knowing who it was and it lines up perfectly. Victoria's looking directly at everybody in the moment they die.
From the first kill, she's staring right at him. When everybody gets up for the doors, she's sat seemingly in shock and visibly scanning around the room as heads are exploding ahead of her (like Shockwave). And when her assistant dies, it's when Victoria looks back to her for a brief moment as she's being dragged away. Then she checks on her assistant and falls back onto a seat overlooking the room once again. It's crazy how it was clearly in sight but yet I, or practically anybody, even considered the possibility that it was her.
I wonder how Mallory weren't killed, while escorting Victoria away.
@@A-Grat-A she didn't want Mallory dead. This was part of her plan
I still don’t get it. What was the point of it? Why was she trying to cover Vought? Was she trying to help the church? Was she following her own agenda? Why did she kill the leader of the church?
Her cool reaction in the scenario kind of had me suspicious.
@@UTF016 Well, we've to wait till season 3 airs to find out what were her motives.
Damn not mentioning Homelander literally getting off to his own power
Hey, hey let's not kink shame alright 🤣
I think what I love about that scene was a while ago the showrunners talked about a specific scene they had to delete in Season 1 because apparently it was too much it was Homelander masturbating on a building saying he can do whatever the fuck he wants and Amazon said it was too much. Then fast forward to now and when I saw it I was laughing so hard because I couldn't believe they convinced them to let them put it in.
@@ryushin6 Funny scene. Glad they finally put it in. I bet it was the same scene filmed for s1. I just found it to be placed in a wierd place
@@ryushin6 You missed a crucial detail, which is the reason the scene didn't make it in during season 1. In the comics Homelander is standing on the top of the Empire State building and shoots his "super" load all over New York. They made a similar scene without that last part for season 2 which is what we saw.
@@amon__7187 I suspect that it was shot for season 1 because it's placement doesn't really fit, he was just defeated in so many ways, the timing doesn't add up to me.
The scene between Butcher and Homelander at the end is one of the finest dual acting performance i have seen on television in a long time. Antony Star shows us his acting abilities as usual while Karl Urban keeps proving he's the definition of an underrated actor.
People need to stop overusing the term underrated, the guy has millions of fans and even more dollars lol. He's doing just fine for a guy playing pretend for a couple months a year.
@@marcellogenovese199 so millions of fans makes someone good? i didn't know that. Tell that to the people who still consider Karl as a B list actor. I can't even remember seeing him in a mainstream movie recently other than the wasted side character in Thor Ragnarok. Karl was that under rated actor and he still is, but i hope that changes.
It still blows my mind Karl was in lord of the rings lmao
@@StruggleDraxProduction No offense, but Urban is 100% a B actor. His most impressive rolls to date are essentially playing a drunken Kiwi hooligan, which he is in real life lol, Bones from the garbage Kelvin star trek, which he is 100% just emulating DeForrest Kelley even if it's a decent impersonation and dread, which again, is basically the character depth of any 80's action prop. All he has to do is grimace. I like him, but people need to stop comfusing charisma with talent. Urban oozes charisma which makes him immediately likeable, that does not make him a talented actor, it makes him a very likeable actor. Just look at his filmography, he's been around forever and in some massive movies yet he's generally not noticed, that's because there were better actors around him. The Boyz has some god awful actors aside from Antony Star.
@@marcellogenovese199 lol he's literally considered B tier, he was a literally nobody in Thor of all places
A-Train is supposed to be like an athlete who’s past his prime so he’ll do anything to keep it going, like use PEDs or some “weird shit” lol and he was also used to make us laugh at the Deep even more because Deep did so much for the Collective, A-Train barely did anything and he gets back in the 7 while the Deep doesn’t.
I think A-Train and The Deep represent and commentate on two interesting kinds of toxic celebrity personalities. The Deep is the vain Hollywood pretty boy with a sexual abuse problem, and A-Train is the troubled athlete with addictive tendencies. It's true what Jeremy says that neither had that much to do this season, but I think the two of them are less interesting as cogs in the overarching main plot and more interesting as individual characters going through their own separate stories that sometimes collide with what The Boys are doing.
Coolman Hahn I agree with this. Great take
I truly do believe either Starlight, Mave, or A-Train will die next season by homelander. Mave still has the video, starlight is working to get dirt or at least was for the second season, and A train got dirt on Stormfront, but I do believe A train probably won’t die because the church guy was the only one who knew and now he’s dead and the deep knew but unless the deep tattletales on A train and tell homelander to get into the seven which is possible but not likely.
Coolman Hahn I think A-Train did do some important dumb stuff at the beginning this season. Like ppl forget he let starlight tell everyone about compound V, but overall good take
Coolman Hahn it’s mostly for comedy. Like when I see them on screen their usually their for some refreshing comedy
Not gonna lie, at the very end when they show the closeup of Homelander doing the dirty I sincerely thought he was having sex with the remains of Stormfront's body, which was NOT a cool mental image, I'm glad it was just him doing a Gargoyle on the city.
I don't think Stormfront is dead. Just became a armless and legless super potato. lol
They shot it first season but Amazon initially said naaaaaah
@@vortexknight6420 they can surely heal her up tho, but i amnot sure if they want to
They might bring her back in some sort of Darth Vader "Übermensch" cyborg style thing in the third season.
@@3b0d1999 I hope they show more about compound V and the recovery phase. Injecting low doses probably help them recover their wound.
Well, actually (Oh God! I’m that “Well, actually” guy), The Deep was the one who gave Maeve the footage from the plane, so he wasn’t completely useless this season.
Yeah, I was about to write that. Without the Deep Homelander would have murdered everyone at that moment.
And the Deep was the only reason A-Train got the file on Stormfront because he recruited him into the Church
seems like Jeremy kept missing kinda obvious things this season
@@Horacio_Poggi You would have to go back even further, because Maeve wouldn't have helped with the fight(Because Ellena wouldn't have left her) and I don't think Kimiko and Starlight had it to beat Stromfront. Actually Black Noir would have killed Starlight.
Infact, Deep indirectly saved Butcher and Ryan lmao. He is the true hero of the Season.
Can I just ask how the F is Antony Starr able to put so much emotion into his eyes?
The way his chromosomes formed the shape of his face that's how
...and it is much more than his eyes.
His whole face mimics perfectly in every situation. He is in fact, a good actor...
@@RealDafuh Like, he is the quintessential example of a good, if not great, actor, in my opinion.
watch banshee. one of the greatest action shows ive ever seen and hes phenomenal in it
It’s not the eyes for me, it’s his mouth. His mouth keeps changing from “I’m happy” to “I’m confused” to “I’m mad” to “I’m gonna kill everyone on this earth” mouth. He moves his face so much man:
Ryan started the fire
His eyes were burning,
Hey the Boy’s still learning
Ryan started the Fire !!!
I knew this was gonna come up 💀
@@TheMasterQuests Good ol Office refrence 😂
@@karnasingh860 XD Yes
And it was the trailer music
Ryan fired his laser
His mum’s there burning
Stormfronts speaking German
Ryan fired his laser
The most satisfying scene for me was to see Stormfront get her ass kicked by my favorite ladies.
Stormfront got me so frikking mad that I wanted to punch the t.v. i haven't felt like that since seeing the crazy villians of Game of Thrones
lol YES. The girls get it done sequence in this episode was just a better and more in-world justified version of what they tried top do in Endgame.
Ryan: “Its over stormfront I have the high ground”
Stormfront: Du untersezt meine Macht!
@@akosleoszilagyi2529 Ryan : Don't try it
HELLO THERE!
From my point of view the Jedi are Nazis
@@mrmonkeyman79 WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST!!!!
Can we just agree that *MOST OF US wouldn’t have expected Victoria Neumann to be the perpetrator of the heads exploding* ? Such a subtle superpower and it makes her really dangerous .
The double plot twists of her first working together with Alistair the leader of the Church of collective and then killing him off and the second twist revealing it was her all along and she has her own political agenda to push or she was working Stan Edgar with Vought in secrecy
Majority of the theories and speculations was Cindy , an extremely small supes fly and the fresca drink. The writers probably knew what we were thinking and went in a totally different route and it WORKED and made sense.
Homelander is reaching the height of his insanity , it’s only just a matter of time when he lets lose. Just really props to Anthony star facial expression that carries so much weight and adds so much to his character, I felt sympathy to him and his relationship with Ryan , Homelander showing his humanity to his son being vulnerable was such a nice added layer of complexity to his conflicted character
Karl urban Butcher , Stan Edgar , so on so forth the star talents of the shows never cease to amaze us.
Such a great show that throws you off in unpredictable ways , and I hope and WANT to see more in Season 3.
I was totally convinced it was going to be Eagle the Archer using some kind of explosive arrows at super high speed from super long range on Edgar's orders and the church kicked him out because of that, but the twist that Neuman is a Vought plant is actually quite clever.
I think most people thought the church did it, Cindy seemed to obvious and it doesn’t make sense that she’d be blowing people’s entire bodies up but then only do heads in other scenes.
The issue is it makes no sense because her eyes go white. Meaning if she's in the court room and she uses her power someone hell even a camera would've have to have caught it. The only way it makes sense is if they cloned her then gave her v but only replaced her after the trial. Then the one guy with a ton of info on vaut just doesn't happen to know shes working for them? Really? Fuck not know shes a super assassin but he didn't know she was working for them. Just seems odd.
It makes sense it was her exploding heads. Because in every ep, stan edgar is watching the news wifh victoria appearing again and again. And then the final episode, victoria said vought is a coup, which is the same thing rayner had said in the first ep of s2
That was the best twist and I loved it! But the question is why did she kill all of her allies? Especially vogelbaum. He was the star witness in all of this. And the collective leader. He was her ally too. I'd like to know what he big plan is.
The Church of the Collective feels like a big middle finger to Scientology, in how they use and discard actors to serve their own interests.
Or any other Cult.
that's my fave thing about this show: HOW IT PISSES ALL OVER ALL THESE clear references (both Scientology and Christianity) and so many tiny shots! (ex: the line mocking Joss Whedon)
@@jonbongjovi1869 I know right! And the show creators have even come out and said that homelander’s character is largely meant to be analogous to Donald trump, with stormfront obviously the embodiment of the alt right, and homelander’s complacent acceptance of her dillusional world view due to the attention he gets from her directly mirroring trumps hesitance to meaningfully reject groups such as the proud boys. The intentionality behind the characters and ideas of this show and it’s explicit political messaging honestly makes it really fun to watch
Crazy that Becca hurt Stormfront more with that knife than the three female superhero’s.
Yea I'm guessing her eye balls aren't as durable as the rest of her?
@@OMGanger and she tanks bullets with no fear o.O kinda weird
😂😂
@@joaopedro28645" bullets can't pass through her but a single Knife could" You must be kidding me😕
Fr
imma go in hibernation and wake me up after season 3 comes
Judging by current events - - You’ll probably wake up to some Walking Dead scenario where everyone is gone from the Rona
Enjoy your 3 year nap
Hibernation *
That’s gonna be a long hibernation, so have a nice nap
I'll wake u up a month before 😈
Great episode. Loved Butcher's growth, I hope the kid comes back and eventually learns his powers. Nice symmetry with Butcher this time taking away the family homelander wanted as opposed to season 1. In some ways a lot of things were wrapped up. Makes you wonder how they'll handle season 3 since Vought is almost untouchable and homelander is just one final bad day away from ending everyone. Oh also get well soon Black Noir...
Big Black Noir
I am pretty sure we'll get a time jump now, establishing a new status quo 2-5 years from now. No way are they jumping straight back in.
@@Hunterfalke i hope they don't do that. As of right now The Boys are sort of broken up, Huey is on his own, and he's still dating starlight... let alone Edgar and Homelander still have conflicts
Homelander's response to Stormfront's "white genocide" stuff was interesting
Stromlight.
I mean, was she wrong?
@@missnoncompliant6279 go back to /pol/. There is no 'great replacement'.
@@kp1x Maybe, think I would be more vocal and confronting but I think its more interesting as a metaphor for uncomfortable politcal alliances, this is bullshit that even Homelander on at least some level knows is wrong
It was funny because he has been disagreeing with her for a minute, when she talks about not having to be onstage and having to cater to the crowds, he loves being loved. His B is crazy but so is he in a different way, I totally saw him killing her over this at some point.
Already said that but, anyone else felt proud of Hughie firing a handgun at stormfront?
I didnt thought that he had the bollocks.
It just didn't help. I didn't see bravery there, or even character growth.
Derek Hofstetler the fact that it didn’t even help showed bravery. He still shot her even though he know it’d do nothing
@@bilals.1500 I mean, since he blew up translucent, I dont think he has much of a problem with guns. No growth there.
@@gayatritripathisaxena7224 Also he was willing to die earlier in the season but was luckily saved. Huey already has good traits as a character and develops more positively by the actions he takes.
@@gayatritripathisaxena7224 you're thinking too literally dude. it was just used to show us that the boys, are willing to die for their cause and protect those they care about.
"I'm not going to stop the wheel, i'm going to break it" - Billy Butcher, Season 3
Nice comparison. GOT started good and went to sh!t as well.
@@TheKidDoc81not really just so called fans not paying attention to the story simple as
No, I got the Vibe that he’s just Completely Demoralised and Unmotivated to keep going. Ofc he’ll come back - - but as of now I think he’s going on a Retreat
@@watdaactalfuc Season 2 was underrated, same with the book Clash of Kings. Yeah compared to AGoT and SoS its not as exiting but Clash has some of the best actual writing Martin has done.
Fuck yes!
The Deep did exactly what the character he is a parody of does: Nothing.
It's just unfortunate that the deep/aquaman have powers that are quite limited with their use. Their power can only be used when water and sea creatures in that water are there. THAT'S IT.
Aquaman has been doing stuff for a very long time, far from accurate to say he does nothing.
He's a parody of a parody because Aquaman is nothing like how ppl think. It's just that the jokes that were made because main stream some how.
James Park you obviously don’t know anything about Aquaman.
He found the recording from the plane massacre.
That ending scene with Victoria and Hughie was so suspenseful.
I genuinely thought Butcher was going to kill kid after what happened.
Same.
I’m sure that was his goal till homelander showed up. Lol
@@xerotolerant I think he picked up that thing because he saw homelander coming
@@abhilashp1969 no
@@abhilashp1969 he picked it up to finish off Stormfront.
Deep got the video for Maeve, got A-train involved in the church, and had a solid fight scene with the boys. Not a lot but def has a role in it
This. He got the video, are everyone forgetting about it?
Niko Bellic For some reason I forgot about it too
Yup, people say he did nothing even though he did those things but by that definition A-Train, Mallory, Frenchie, and MM did nothing too.
Billy's character growth this season was incredible.
agreed
Fittingly enough, Billy and Homelander remains the MVPs of the show, both in terms of characterization and acting. Homelander had one messed up arc as well, and Anthony Starr just did it so fucking well.
Didnt he kinda do nothing this season? I remember him taking control with kimikos brother situation, then he had the chat with stan edgar. What else did he do that mattered this season?
@FarnsworthIII You do know that Kimiko never speaking is part of her character right, part of her whole backstory, and a direct carry over from the comic? Whatever.
If it helps, if they follow the comic she'll probably open up more later with more of what we saw at the end and her laughing as she realized she wasn't afraid any more.
It grew in the last 10 minutes. I don't know what you're talking about the season and then when it would've been interesting he gives the boy away
"Why didn't she escape earlier" because she wanted to stay. She stayed at that facility because it was safe. Even with Homelander knowing where they were, she needed to stay with Ryan, because a) Homelander would take them if they left the facility and b) she was lying to Ryan and lying to him ab out the outside world. That was the entire reason Ryan got angry and voluntarily left with Stormlander.
Not all heroes even in this continuity heal like Wolverine. In the comics, when Storm Front loses an eye, it stays lost.
Theres healing and there is regrowing.
People csnt tell the difference. When you cut me, i bleed, it scabs, it heals and disappears.
For supes, like Stormfront. You hurt her, it scabs and heals and disappears but to a relative super level.
@@daoyang223 i mean you get the point right? When we talk about heroes your mind instantly thinks in super or superhuman, i mean in the wikis the listings go: speed (super) healing (super) etc
I really liked the 'Girls get it done' scene. They spent all season really ragging on the forced female power scenes in super hero movies (probably tossing shade at endgame), and then put the cherry on top of showing how to actually do that kind of scene properly.
Turns out the proper method is 3 pissed off characters that youve spent 2 seasons developing literally curb stomping a Nazi is the recipe for success.
agreed
It was cringe and forced
I totally agree. The boys scene girls get it done was 100% better than end game.
That scene in Endgame is one of the cringiest things I’ve ever seen in cinema. Hella forced and tainted the movie.
Mike_97 r u taking about endgame ?
Without deep finding that footage then a Homelander couldn’t be checked. He doesn’t get credit.
What I got out of season 2 of the boys: “We're all cogs in a machine, but without the cog there's no machine".
And the cogs have to work within that machine to change it. Because how can you fix a machine otherwise if your just a cog. Or something like that lol
Once the toothpaste is out the tube, there is no putting it back into the tube*says with straight face*
Becca didn't escape earlier because the whole point was that was the safest place to be, and her best chance at raising Ryan safely and properly. Even when Homelander found them.
Agreed...
I'm still lost about why she was running in the beginning and why they were looking for her. Did she do sth?
@@benomils6920 She escaped, she's kept in that place as a agreement so the truth of homelanders action don't get out there.
@FarnsworthIII are you even watching real world?... any accusation like this and kid is going for DNA test due to media push... and that would prove its his son.... you are ridiculous
Also escaping with an 8 year old through the night all by herself would have been insane.
It's obviously no secret how good Antony Starr is as Homelander, but every time I watch another episode of this show it just sinks in more. Its one of the best casting choices I have ever seen in any media. Sometimes you watch a film or a show and think "ooh, I wonder what this person would be like in that role" but with this its impossible. Because he is just so perfect. Villains in other shows have an end goal and you know they will be working towards that, so you can rule out them doing certain things. Homelander is so well constructed you think he could do anything at any moment, he could just snap and kill hundreds of people. And that fear, that tension is sold impeccably by Starr. The definition of an electrifying performance.
He's one of my favourite TV villains ever. Had never heard of Antony Starr before watching The Boys but he really is an outrageously good actor
the way he switches emotions is perfect
The best thing is the fact that this tension comes from him being in character. Usually, when a character is unpredictable, it is due to their bad characterisation. Here, it literally IS his character, and i am so on board for this.
I hope this shows makes him to go big, dude deserves it.
I'm honestly always waiting for Homelander to drop out of the sky and kill somebody. Everytime they do a close up and you see the blurry background my chest is tense.
The Deep was useless this season, yes, but I think that's kinda the point. He just is useless.
Useless? The deep quietly pushes the narrative foward. It was the deep who found Translucent's remains. It was the Deep who recovered footage of the plane incident. Gell, it was the Deep that started Starlight's arch. He's a big part of why the story is happening.
@@user-gm4kv2my4u also it was The Deep who recruited A-Train, who then stole the files on Stormfront
I agree, though I'd say more hopeless than useless. But he is pretty useless too.
@@user-gm4kv2my4u The issue is that all those events could’ve easily happened without him if they just did some minor tweaking. A civilian scuba-diver could’ve found the remains. Maybe the guy who recorded the plane incident uploaded the footage to a cloud drive before the plane crashed. Even though Deep did start Starlight’s arch, he gets cast out of it almost immediately after. Home lander or Translucent could’ve filled the role of a creepy/pervy hero trying to take advantage of her.
All Deep does plot-wise is swim around and conveniently find evidence when the plot demands it. He doesn’t create conflict at all. He just floats around as a comedic relief character. Some people might like that, but he gets way too much screen time in season 2 for an easily replaceable filler character.
Why is this actor always playing useless characters?
I think The Deep being useless was simply perfect for his character
Maeve, Kimiko, and Starlight escorted Stormfront to the V.I.P. section of the Boot party.
Best girl fight ever, ZERO cringe
Facts
AGREED, it had build up, it made sense, it was BADASS
Unlike in Endgame when it felt forced, those girls fights are just traditionally punching and kicking.
@@margarethmichelina5146 I instantly thought of Endgame too lol The Boys Girls kicking ASS made perfect sense here as the all had there reasons for being there. Endgame felt out of place
I yelled at the screen "Now that's a girl power scene done right".
*Semi Disagree* there would be literally no Point in *The Deep* dying this early.
I loved when Maeve showed up and started fighting stormfront with them. Was such an epic scene. I thought, "that's what girls get it done means" then Frenchie said it lol.
Liked how the boys gives the ladies more character traits than "female"
The scene where kimiko Maeve and starlight are fighting stormfront was way better and less forced than that feminism scene in endgame
@@jdrc1233 That same scene was parodied with the whole deal about the Vought movie.
Fernando Rivera even the parody was better than the actual scene
@german uzcategui my thoughts exactly, watching that endgame scene thought this feels wrong. But Maeve showing up is like our old friend coming to the rescue alongside our other friends. The boys scene doesn’t feel like a statement it feel like our characters finally fighting back
Yes!
Holy shit though the Neumann twist at the end is nuts. I've gotta like rewatch. Goddamn. This was worth the wait.
i didn t understood, can you explain to me?
@@PatoTapado Rewatch it.
SNYDER CUT no. It’s shit.
@@KaneK1234 aw did baby get his feelings hurt because somebody likes a show that he doesn't :(
Jack Doherty Well, it’s mostly people getting upset if anybody dislikes this show. Just look on Reddit.
I think it's obvious that we're going to meet Hughie's mom in S3, almost guaranteed.
I have this theory that Hughie's mom may be a supe and that's why she left him probably.
Pro 92 that’d ruin the whole he could have been any one of us vibe. Ooo hughies mom is a supe, and actually he is related to the opposition, and actually.. cliche
Nima Hanna fax
Honestly not really hyped for season 3 lol?.. The boys have all gone their own way.. Butcher honestly feels pretty complete for now. It's definitely gonna be the season of build up while season 4 is gonna be the payoff.
@@a.f9234 Hughie is a supe himself. He brings out the best in people with the power of love.
Here is my pet peeve... Stormfront shoots lightning at many humans in the show, and KILLS them on the spot. But when she shoots lightning at Hughie and Frenchie in the finale, they just go flying backwards. Same thing happens in the Umbrella Academy. Power levels shouldn't be dulled just because it's happening to a protagonist.
She hit them with a very short blast but yeah you're right. Although I suppose the didn't think she had the time to fry them completely since she was fighting a 3v1
i agree that powers should be nerfed when fighting main characters, but you can't just kill off all the protagonists lol. i guess she could've just not shot lightning at them but they needed to be doing something
@Victor VonDoom Would you prefer three of the main characters to have died right there?
But even when she broke into the black families apartment she didn’t kill them just because of her lighting she threw the black dad into a fridge really hard. And when she toasts Cindy at the hospital she def did it longer than she did with the boys and the black dad. Her short bursts only seem to be more concussive than anything. Also might be good to not that there’s no set way in how these powers work cause even Ryan’s laser didn’t cauterize Beccas neck and kind of sliced it
It’s been a big flaw with superhero shit for the longest of time. It does need to be fixed and I agree
Supes don't heal, it's just Kimiko's power
Thats right but stormfront healed when homelander lazered her
😂🤣
I forgot for a second haha I was like Nooooo and then I was like oh wait..
Homelander was holding back and ryan had no control he just went all out
I think stormfront dies and then homelander gets angry and kills the president and then gets killed by butcher
@@crimsonhunter7598 STOP GIVING BAD WRITING A PASS
The “girl fight” scene just might be my favourite of the series. Still very fresh though but holy shit.
Edit: The Deep is the perfect comic relief for this show & idc what they have him doing😂
It reminded me of Death Proof's ending...
Meh
Lol that shit was hilarious. Looked like a school fight when all 3 of them started ganging up on her 🤣
That scene was a perfect Roast on Avengers Endgame's Girl Power Scene, Which was Cringe AF.
The part about The Deep being so funny, I definitely agree there! The part during the Congressional Hearing, when The Deep was watching it on TV and he checked to make sure his own head hadn't been exploded was so funny because it just came out of nowhere.
Tbh I wanna see the deep go on an ark where he is pissed off that he isn’t “wanted” in the eyes of vought and he goes around finding all of these shunned supes who vought discarded and forms his own team to fight back against the 7 or other teams that are vought owned and he and the boys work together to take down vought
Nah, that'd be too basic a storyline. Too easy. There's nothing you could do with that other than people double crossing other people
I'm guessing something like that happens or he becomes a supervillain allied with others like him.
I think he's being set up to follow his fate in the comic but with more nuance.
@@Way_Po what's his fate in the comics?
Brandon Jackson what is it?
This season was sponsored by, Almond Joy.
And Fresca
Marie they did call Fresca awful on screen
@@aaaadit5155 all part of their reverse psychology marketing strat *taps forehead
In any case, I know about Fresca now when I didn't before and if thats happening to a lot of other people, its a win in Fresca's book. Right?
And redbull
THAT didn't ring true!
I don't know anyone who hates ALMOND JOY!!
Bit-O-Honey and the other, okay.
I thougth the Fresca was fake Product Placement, right?
(Fresca's GREAT. but only once a year.)
One thing that botherd me was the fact that kimiko didn't kill stormfront. I thought that would be the end of her arc
Yes that would have been good
Tbf she didn't freeze before the fight and basically got some catharsis
But she kicked her ass, at least that's something
I'm disappointed she didn't actually stick her foot up sf's thing. Instead maeve aria starks in out of nowhere.
Well, Stormfront is not dead yet, so who knows...
The girls moment was waay Better Than the end Game moment
the End Game moment was just shit lol
Yeah in here the girls were actually the superheroes among the Boys. Can we hope for a spin off called The Girls starring these three?
The scene from the boys actually meant and did something lol
@@stevenlornie1261 yes And i love endgame a Lot but That scene was shit
@@gregoriomassa8529 yeah
Ryan lasered her makes those theory about stormfront can stand toe to toe against Homelander debunked immediately, also all of those twists man, this episode is definitely one of the best if not the best
Yeah why Ryan's lasers were able to hurt her?
@@CattanCondy a angry child with no control of natural born powers. I see it as he is stronger then Homelander and he doesn't have control of his power.
@@CattanCondy When Homelander lasered Stormfront's tits he wasn't going full power, he can control the power like when he heats up the bottle of milk.
Kassidy Hayes it doesn’t make sense for the kid to be stronger than Homelander since homelander was trained to be the strongest human alive
@@nimahanna1709 it makes total sense, Homelander was injected with V, Ryan was Born a Supe
The Deep saved Butcher, Maeve, The Boys, Elaina and A Train's career.
I personally liked season 2 more then the first and im super hyped for season 3.
Season 1 was More like "World Building "
Season 2 is like "Story'Mode" ❤️🙏
Agreed .
Episodes 5-8 of this season were genuinely some of the best TV I’ve ever watched. It took awhile to get going but my god it was so good when everything came together
I'll have to give season 2 a try then. I was extremely disappointed by season 1, especially after all the hype. Loved all the actors though so I'll give S2 a shot.
Big Smoke wdym propaganda. I’m not tryna be confrontational bro I’m just not sure what u mean
Spoiler for comics
The girl beating stormfront is how butcher , mm and Frenchie killed STORMFRONT in comics by repeatedly kicking him . I like that reference from comics (they all took compound V)
Love Sausage also took part in that beat down.
@lazyboy 254 Yep
Wish you didn't spoil the comics in a youtube comment
@@mattpotter5712 hahahahahaha
Beca cut her eye also reference comics.
"Supes heal" is not why Kimiko survived her neck being broken. Her power seems to specifically be regeneration, a la Wolverine or Deadpool. I don't think we've seen the last of Stormfront, but it wont be because she super heals and gets back into the action.
@ the 50 cals didn’t really hurt starlight maybe bruises tops. A-train only healed that quickly because he was using compound V.
Stormfront is not coming back, he was killed in the comics and never came back. They will move on to a new villain next season.
well yeah, but Stormfront DID heal from Homelander "lasering her tits"
Yeah I felt like kimiko was supposed to be a version of x-23
@@sholva6809 They specifically established her as being alive at the end of the episode, so it's safe to assume that she'll be back.
I just hate that everytime that things hit the fan, they always use the blackmail cop out to make everything better.
They used it only twice this season. And it failed one time when they tried to blackmail Lamplighter in the flashback. Not sure what everytime you're referring to.
@@sharilshahed6106 nah man they're literally using it constantly
Starlight trying to blackmail Stormfront in the van at the start of the season, Maeve trying to blackmail Homelander several times, one right into his face, Stormfront getting literally blackmailed in front of everyone, blackmailing of Lamplighter and there were some other moments but I won't remember it straight away
Blackmail is a fine tool but not when it used as an answer to literally everything cause otherwise it's just getting lazy
@@sharilshahed6106 It wasn't just used twice, I'm fresh from binging the season and it was definitely more than twice. It's not even blackmail strictly, it's bargaining-esque stuff like when Becca allowed Homelander to visit his son if he let Butcher live, or when Butcher met with Edgars.
How do you hurt someone that is invincible? You hurt what they care about. In the case of Homelander, he cares only about his image and how others see him. If Homelander was a villain, and didn't care about anything, he'd be nigh unstoppable. He would just kill whoever got in his way and there'd be nothing to blackmail him on.
I love it. They keep digging dirt on Vought. Vought almost got away with it every time up until StormFront's Nazi files got put out in public.
This last episode hit the sweet spot.
Also, We should all take Butchers words of wisdom
i actually didn't like this season that much , most of it feel like filler , maybe it was supposed to be longer like 12 ep or something , it felt both slow and rushed at the same time
@@RED01SEA Hey! This season was awesome. Wanna see a bad season? Watch Game of Thrones season 8
@@RED01SEA I definitely disagree on many levels. A lot of those "filler" moments, are moments where the show slows down to have character growth. The world has been built by now. Season 1 did an excellent job of that. Season 2 got to really dig deep on it's characters. Homelander's EXCELLECT character development would not have been possible had the show not been as slow in places as it was.
@@RED01SEA This season was great but I think the creators were in hurry to end this season soon so I think they might have lost some content.
@@I-speak-U-shut-it well i didn't say it was bad i said i didn't like it that much , waiting each week for episodes did not help much too
I was not expecting the human popper to be who it was. Holy shiet now that’s a twist. I went back and watched the head popping scene and could see it was actually her ahaha
How?
@@zaprese Eye contact
@@zaprese that person acted shocked and didn't leave the hearing so all targets can be eliminated alongwith some random ones to cause confusion regarding perpetrator. It also stared all targets that were eliminated.
@Shaq4real she's presumably working for vought and may have had tabs on her so as soon Rayner opened her mouth from the inside she blew her up
@Shaq4real agent was about to tell about some coup inside vought to the boys . she was onto something but couldn't understand it completely because of some information that she lacked. When they told her about the supe who arrived in the cargo, she finally understood what was going on.
Most plausible explanation is that since she is actively working on project to control supes, she started partnership with that spokeswomen who actively opposed supe involvement in sensitive matters. But she felt that something was off. the information from boys provided full picture and that she realized that spokeswomen is a fraud. But spokeswoman was tracking her and before she could tell them anything, she was assassinated.
"Girls get it on"- Homelander
I think the saying is "Girls get it done"
@@slyreject8370 he is joking
"Girls do get it done" - Frenchie
I prefer this over the proper nomenclature.
Crazy to me I've been watching your content for almost 10 years. It always wonderful to see you get excited about stuff. Keep up the good work, dude!
I don't like how the congress women's eyes turned white when she used her powers at the end. They didn't do that during the scene with all the exploding heads, and if she can do it without white eyes why randomly give them to her when she uses her powers. If i go rewatch the head exploding scenes and i missed her eyes going white then i take this back, but i don't think they did.
Nope. You are 100% right. I was waiting this whole time for someone to say something like this...when they showed her eyes up close, I said, wait, her eyes were NOT like that during the Congressional hearing. She was literally sitting next RIGHT NEXT TO THE SPEAKER WHO GOT HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF FIRST....
Perhaps it has something to do with the distance.
Perhaps contact lenses?
@@michaelluigi3309 You might have a good point there...everyone she killed were pretty close in that room....
Maybe she can just control her eyes whether she wants it to go white or not!
I disagree, I think this season far exceeded the first.
For example, the gripe you had with Becka escaping seems misplaced. They never said she couldn’t physically get out, it was due to the need for Ryan to grow up in an ideal place so he didn’t turn into the next Homelander. Once Ryan’s not there, of course she’d leave.
To each their own but I didn't think this season was even close to as good as the first season. Sure it had some great moments, but it was inconsistent whereas the first season was consistently enjoyable for me
I agree. I think Season One did a great job with world building but Season 2 did a great job with character development. Every character has gone through some sort of arc this season and it makes me excited to see how shit ends up next season.
This season had terribly inconsistent writing, such as Maeve appearing out of nowhere twice, congresswoman's inconsistent powers, stormfront's nazi secrets (a-train searched this super secure facility but not her apartment which has the same doc?)
Stormfront, one of the strongest superheroes, doesn't kill any of the boys despite zapping them with electricity. She would definitely kill them, especially MM because she's a racist. She's also immune to bullets, explosions, and crowbars. Except knives, apparently. She can take hundreds of bullets but a single knife, game over.
It's disappointing considering how good and realistic the first season was.
Also there's a hint that Becca is actually a well trained professional at one point, she's the one who suggest the truck route escape trick to Butcher, means that she know the ins and outs of the compound. She might actually planned to escape when shit hits the fan. And yeah seeing Butcher finally taking in his supe son is really moving and really feel natural because he might be not fully sincere because of the promise with becca. And Homelwander was wonderful asf.
I agree. This season for me as way better
I think you're under valuing the Deeps comedic moments throughout
the season.
The Deep supplied me with many laughs, I hope they keep him 🤷🏽♂️
_Erinnerst du dich an den Tag Frederick, Chloe hat die Arme aus dem Autofenster gestreckt. Wir haben den perfekten Platz am Fluss gefunden, im Schatten eines Apfelbaums. Es war das erste Mal, dass Chloe frische Äpfel gegessen hat._
*Do you remember the day Frederick, Chloe put her hands out of the car window. We found the perfect place at the river, in the shadow of an apple tree. It was the first time that Chloe ate fresh apples.*
- Reddit.
cool
If her memory is back to Germany, she has to find out her daughter's dead again. Couldn't really happen to a worse person though so eh
Sympathetic villain done right. So much better than Anakin in RotS.
@@fleeceblanket9515 sympathetic?? Nahh
@@fleeceblanket9515 Sympathetic? I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to feel sympathy for her, because beyond "she loves her daughter" there is literally nothing good about her. Literally nothing.
Anakin, meanwhile, is let down by the order he was raised by, trying to save his wife from the same fate as his mother, and most importantly WASN'T ALWAYS A MASSIVE RACIST WHO BELIEVED IN PURIFYING THE GENE POOL.
I'm not dissing on her as a villain, she was a good one, but you were never supposed to sympathise with her.
The Deep is just a side comic relief character. And honestly, I aint mad about it. I enjoy every pointless scene with him. But at the same time, The Deep is the reason why Butcher was saved and also the reason why my boy A-train is back in The Seven lol
In Breaking Bad, Walter made a deal with Hector Salamanca to defeat Gus Fringe.
In The Boys, Butcher made a deal with Stan Edgar to defeat Homelander.
Interesting parallel 😁
In The Mandalorian, the title character will probably make a deal with the Jedi to defeat Moff Gideon. Perfectly balanced.
It's all connected.
You know what that means? Better Call Lenny!
In The Breaking Boys Butcher White made a deal with Outlander Cringe to defeat Edgy Salamander
I don't think the church was character purgatory, I think it was more of a misdirect. Everyone was thinking the church was behind the attack at the capital.
I think the church might be important in season 3, season 2 set up a background of church for us so it can be more plot relevant in season 3.
Or it's its own b plot. Not everything has to be interconnected. The show is a satire, and it satirises many things, one of which is manufactured redemption on celebs.
The show is blatantly, in your face anti corporate, anti capitalist satire, not an endless nonsense of lore and deep conspiracies.
My friend spoiled the ending... Sorta... He told me about the comic ending, and this ending was not the same, so i was still surprised
Its so much different to the comic so far, it's better imo
They kept the Stormfront triple beat up from the comics, pretty dam accurate
There still another season
I was expecting Stormfront's brain to pop out at that point like in the comics (where Love Sausage does the same sort of Arya Stark teleporting thing a decade earlier, even if they attempt to explain it afterwards), and then for Homelander-Ryan-Becca-Butcher confrontation to be its own thing.
He didn't spoil anything...comics ain't happening
Never clicked on a notification so fast
The scene of maeve, starlight and kimiko beating storefront was hilarious
Counter argument to first topic:
Becca talked about it how she enjoyed her time there because Ryan was happy, and the reason she didn’t leave After homelander found out was the fact that homelander could just find them super fast
Anthony Starr is so damn good as Homelander. One of my favorite tv characters in a long time.
My favourite part of the finale was A-Train getting his spot in the Seven back and the Deep says, "I'm back too right? Right? I'm anti-Nazi."
The way he says it with such high hopes is hilarious to me.
Ryan be like "dad, I'm pretty sure this guy wants to murder me with a crowbar, and I still feel safer with him than I do you." I also think that Ryan seeing what happened to his mother, will ultimately help him understand why he needs to control his powers and protect people. because he's now felt firsthand, the pain and sorry he can cause by not maintaining control of himself. Much like Jonathan Kent's death, the death of Becca butcher, will set her son on the path to being Earth's protector.
I really enjoy the superhero media starring characters who have the stereotypical characters (the fast one, aquatic one, the Batman character), and analyze the real-world consequences of superpowered beings in our world. Watchmen, Invincible, and The Boys all do this masterfully.
Becca never wanted to be with butcher when she found out aboht ryan. Thats why she didn't leave until now. Homelander clearly actually cares about ryan even if he sees him as his object. I think thats why he didnt do anything to Butcher or Maeve. I dont think he wanted to kill people infront of his son, and also really was angered that his son so young killed someone just like he did.
Naw, She didn't leave with Butcher because he was going to abandon Ryan. And the reason she didn't leave with Ryan herself is because Ryan is too important to Vought. She needed Butcher's help to get out with Ryan. And the reason why Homelander didn't kill Butch and Maeve is because he cares more about the attention and love from people because he never received actual love when growing up. Having people love him is all that matters to him. He doesn't care about his son, Homelander cares about being alone. That's why he kept forcing Ryan to use his powers and why he was in a relationship with Stormfront. He is a god and so he needs someone to relate with him. If Ryan didn't have powers then Homelander would have forgotten him.
@@slyreject8370 honestly i think there's a lot more good in homelander than even he wants to admit. Talking with his father and crying, genuinely having a heart to heart with ryan, and his talk with becca about how he doesnt want ryan to end up like him. Seems pretty certain homelander can be good but he's just mentally breaking. His father (pretty much) died in front of him, his girlfriend died infront of him (however crazy she is), his son was taken from him, and everyone showing him he actually has no control what so ever over his life. I think he could be good if he wasnt so broken
@@shihi51 I disagree. It does look like there are signs of good in him but his actions in season 1 and 2 say otherwise. In the comics he did try to become a hero but he failed. So he gave up. I know at this point the show is doing things different from the comics but they're on the same path. Homelander does want to become something more but he doesn't try to.
No, he was angry because he found out Vought/Stan Edgar wants to take away his son from him, and now even Stormfront is locked up by Vought. That's way Homelander jerk off during the last scene and said he's the one in control, because he felt powerless against Vought, Vought literally controls him.
@@shihi51 he is a narcissist and craves love and attention. having a son is the ultimate form of getting what he wants, not only do children love unconditionally and crave attention from their parents constantly, he is a mini version of himself, and he loves himself above all others.
What a twist with the heads exploding. Looking forward to where they go with that and Cindy
The difference between her and Cindy is Cindy uses her hands and psychokinesis to rip doors off the hinges, Victoria pops heads through sight and can’t levitate/manipulate objects or use Psychokinesis
She probably work for Edgar and he playing the government to boost Vought bottom line cause it’s money in war
Edger is the main villain in this show. I have no doubt now. In the final scene of the whole show Homelander will kill him or die along with him. That's for sure.
"The Deep" was the comic relief. He's always been the comic relief.
Always?
I kinda thought his introduction with starlight wasnt that funny but that's just me lol
@@TOAOM123 Agreed. Since then though, the dolphin, lobster, whale and more.
@@TOAOM123 well they needed to introduce his down fall early to establish him as the comic relief.
"Girls do get it done" So good HAHA