@@rexlumontad5644 ultimately the issue is one of "they weren't built for this". The RY type were built for fighting against rogue colonists or less advanced races with no anyi-orbit capacity. But as the Federation would discover.... The Bug aren't that stupid. Stupid races don't build spaceships (this is the case in all mediums btw)
On July 31, 1943, the infantry company of which Pvt. Young was a member, was ordered to make a limited withdrawal from the battle line in order to adjust the battalion's position for the night. At this time, Pvt. Young's platoon was engaged with the enemy in a dense jungle where observation was very limited. The platoon suddenly was pinned down by intense fire from a Japanese machinegun concealed on higher ground only 75 yards away. The initial burst wounded Pvt. Young. As the platoon started to obey the order to withdraw, Pvt. Young called out that he could see the enemy emplacement, whereupon he started creeping toward it. Another burst from the machinegun wounded him the second time. Despite the wounds, he continued his heroic advance, attracting enemy fire and answering with rifle fire. When he was close enough to his objective, he began throwing handgrenades, and while doing so was hit again and killed. Pvt. Young's bold action in closing with this Japanese pillbox and thus diverting its fire, permitted his platoon to disengage itself, without loss, and was responsible for several enemy casualties.[6]
What a moron died for no reason on some stupid battlefield in the name of duty, loyalty, honor and so on aka all the reasons to control people. Instead killing the war mongering leaderships would have saved millions of lives and prevented genocide. You know the whole point of the true mobile infantry (as in the novel Starship Troopers) is to act as shock troopers to intimidate hostile nations to get a favorable position for peace talks. This is done by dropping the mobile infantry in their mechanized battle armor from space to target leadership positions. One of the primary differences between the novel and the movie is that in the novel the humans fully acknowledge the bugs as a sentient species and try to negotiate peace. While the bugs are at the mercy of the human space navy who is able to destroy whole planets from space the humans do not want to commit genocide and instead use their shock troops and negotiations.
Ah yes, the ships with racetracks for their escape craft, instead of just mounting them in tubes in the hull, resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths!
@@rexlumontad5644 bombardment would only serve a temporary solution sense you can only go so far from the scorched surface to the deep depths of the bug underground.
"Come on you apes, you wanna live forever!?" I loved the movie, it was my first exposure to the world and honestly as cheesey as they were I loved the sequels. And the book was a treat on it's own. Now the animations and the recent games, feels good to see the old franchise getting love.
watch the show "Roughnecks, starship trooper chronicles" it's closer to the book and it's SOOOOOOOOOOOO good and it's freely available on TH-cam. Too bad they never finished the show
Bugs: Wait till Human starships cluster up for assault landing to launch plasma bombs at them.. Humans: Find where bugs cluster to deploy nuclear bombs… Both: Sending in waves of Drones to eradicate the other..
Well tbf There is a reason they send you there, you are supposed to stay and fight By the time the requested retrieve force arrive, your troops would probably already die alot
There aren't any implications, just good tactical sense. The MI are essentially light infantry and therefor require shock to carry a fight, which means everything has to land at once. However, when de-assing from an area, a perimeter has to be set and defended for your pickup to land, so you leave by section/squad/platoon/company and that perimeter isn't broken until the last unit leaves; this is to prevent the landing zone from being overrun. That being the case, it makes perfect sense to have more assault ships than ferries.
Not saying this was the case, but a lot of Starship Trooper movie/media fans treat the book the same way as early Warhammer 40k (like a satire). It's not quite that grim or statist.
That last bit about History and Moral Philosophy made me immediately go "yup, they read the book" After all, another bit from the book did state: "you can bomb it, burn it, gas it, or turn it to glass. But you don't own it unless your troops are on it, and the other guy's aren't." I know I most likely messed it up, but.... The spirit of the line is still there
That is a truth that no matter how much we may wish otherwise is still very relevant. You can have all the airpower, artillery and tanks you want to support them but infantry is still the core fighting force for taking ground.
this always been such an awesome looking ship design. and actually quiet a lot of modularity and thought put into its design and all... even when these ships kinda sucks balls...
As far as human built starships in that general tech level they are some of the most durable ones out there. I mean the amount of damage some were shown to have taken and still returned to port is amazing.
@@26th_Primarch cuz the engine n stuff is all in the back and each engine can swivel around making em fairly numerable, so can still perform complex stuff with even only 2 of em working.... and well the engines are fairly well protected with all that crew quarter and human bodies part all in front of it - the plasma balls have to travel through a lot of ship to get to the engines :DD :P
The Bugs really got into Taco Tuesday in their little piece of the universe, the farts weren't just epic they were weaponized to the point of being lethal
It's damn clever having the landing boats craned out of the outside hull BEFORE starting it's engines to leave. I'd still have a separate landing capable hanger on the other end of the ship so once recovered and refueled it can go down a conveyor to enter the loading area. 1. Not washing flames and heat inside means no danger of injuring personnel. This means the ability to continuously load and unload personnel. 2. Since no heat or flames were inside the ship, no extra oxygen gets burned up that could've been used for, oh I don't know, like breathing! Lol I'm not sure if they showed how the ships re-enter the ship. I'd have a separate landing capable hanger on the other end of the ship so once recovered and refueled, it can go down a conveyor to enter the loading area.
Ffs, the movie is supposed to be a satire. The Federation using stupid tactics and equipment that is poorly designed, THAT´S THE WHOLE POINT! It´s over 25 years, since this movie was released and people are still not getting it.
@@caelestigladii Are you people dense?! Paul Verhoeven has stated many times, that the movie is a satire on US militarism and how the military brass doesn't care about the lives of the common soldier. Like in WWI or in Vietnam, were the higher ups would send countless soldiers in their deaths, to achieve goals that had pretty much zero strategic value. ''wHy dO tHeY DoN't hAvE tAnKs & AiR sUpPoRt?" Because the Federation doesn't give a shiet about the boots on the ground and is a bunch of incompetent idiots, that has no clue what they're fighting against. If they did, they would just carpet bomb Klendathu. It's kinda similar with Warhammer 40K, where the Imperium throws literally millions of troops into the meat grinder. IT'S SATIRE, NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF MILITARY TACTICS. DO YOU GET IT NOW?!
@@CaptainSeato Not all of the corvette transport ships have flat space above. Some have the flat area fully covered. And in Rodger Young case, it have frame structure hanging across that flat space with some spinning structure in the middle on the flat area. So that area definitely not for retrieving dropships or shuttle.
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 based on the design, the John A. Warden and the small Fast Attack Crafts are way more elegant in aesthetics, not to mentions honest-to-goodness laser cannons!
Not going to lie, when I saw that the Templin Institute released a document regarding the Rodger Young class Corvette, my first though was of those brave individuals who served the Greater Terran Union during the Algan Wars, the Faraxian Wars, the Rixian Wars and the Skiron Campaigns. Glory to the GTU.
It would be interesting to see how the tech would appear if it were more in line with the book. The original Starship Troopers book used small and efficient squads of troopers in mechanized battle armor that were more like Elementals. It made much more sense than transporting millions of soldiers across the galaxy without even full suits and breathing gear to Zapp Branigan the enemy.
Well the later animations like Invasion and Traitor of Mars has them using powered armor suits like the book. Also I think they don't need rebreatber gear is bc the bugs also breath oxygen? Idk but Roughnecks does the books justice in terms of that
@@bamaboy5746 I haven't seen much of the later series, so it's possible that they tried to be more accurate to the source material. If I recall correctly, at least some bug types could survive vacuums, so maybe the idea was that they only showed planets with known breathable atmosphere and would have used different gear elsewhere, but it was never addressed.
The Starship Troopers miniature game depicted the battle armour, the light infantry, and the Roughneck-chronicles-type power armour as being three different types of formation within the same military organisation. Though it's not something our narrators concern themselves with, it's possible that the cost and logistical requirements of battle armour and power armour make it impossible for the Federation to equip their entire military with them. By way of analogy: a general in the Wars of the Roses would no doubt have liked to have everyone in his force equipped with full plate, but that doesn't mean that any of them got their wish.
@@stephenwood6663 Logistically, it makes sense; probably a lot easier to have a mass fabricator stamp out helmets, plates and boots compared to an entire sealed, powered armor system. Another truism of war; the best gear is almost always the most expensive, and the most impossible to mass produce. I really like the miniature game honestly for putting it all together.
@@KillerOrca well there are logical limits to that, obviously yes not every soldier would be issued the full power armor, however realistically sending men halfway around the galaxy would be very expensive, and every man, and his gear is valuable, while in the war of the roses not every man wore plate, it's also true that the conquistadors in the new world went and sent men with the very best because it was impossible to send enough to win by manpower, as shown in the movies these infantry would be I'll suited outside of planetary defense, where you just have to worry about making the gear with the planets own manufacturering equipment, while producing your other goods
Inexperienced troops will often tend to clump, and this is more excusable when the enemy's primary ground combat weapon is an angry bug with scythed limbs.
"WE ARE GOING IN WITH THE FIRST WAVE, MEANS MORE BUGS FOR US TO KILL! YOU SMASH THE ENTIRE AREA, YOU KILL ANYTHING WITH MORE THAN TWO LEGS, YOU GET ME?!"
I got to cover this book for a book report in American Lit this past school year, best choice I ever made. Also props to my teacher who allowed me to do so.
On top of that, the society in the movie and book is far from Fascist as many like to claim. The uniforms in the movie were used because Paul Verhoven didn't even bother reading the book. He tried to portray them a Fascistic, but largely failed in that too. Look up Sargon of Akkad's synopsis of the movie.
God I love that film, best scene is the one where Jenkins suddenly turns up in the last third wearing an SS uniform to tell the audience that the yonic brain bug feels pain. Real Kino.
announcer: Young people from all over the globe are joining up to fight for the future. Soldier #1: I'm doing my part. Soldier #2: I'm doing my part. Soldier #3: I'm doing my part. Young kid: I'm doing my part too. [other soldiers laugh] announcer: They're doing their part Are you? Join Land Force Command or any of the military branches of The Greater Terran Union and save the world. Service guarantees citizenship. The only good Tyrum is a dead Tyrum Terra invicta!
I was going to complain how these are in no way *”corvettes”* but then realized the utter genius of it all. The US Navy should rename their new Ford Class Super Carriers “Petite Class Patrol Boats”.
I liked the design enough to use it for my own little universe of stories. Called the Rolf Emerson class. They've become the primary troop ships. Weapons are a bit heavier than what the Rodger Young carries. Plenty of point defense weapons, 10 photon torpedo launchers. Along with 1 dual barrel turret above and aft of the main bridge. Along heavy shields.
Remember: They badly misused those ships in the movies - they are supposed to be used for covert insertion of squads of seriously bad ass power armor troopers via drop pods and the shuttles are only supposed to be for post-op pick up. I don't think the director understood what a corvette is.
I just wish Eaglemoss would get to selling models from this franchise. I loved the design for the Rodger Young! I also find it interesting how Mobile Infantry surplus gear made its way to the Power Rangers universe.
I kinda like the larger drop shuttles that carry just 12 troopers. Each with their own drop pod. Once in low orbit each drop pod is deployed and begins its atmospheric entry before blowinging away into a cloud of highly radar reflective debris to confuse ground to air fire. each trooper then verifies his location and opens fire against any ground targets on the way down to clear his landing zone. on hitting the ground the.... Marauders then go to work.
I watch the movie specifically for the scenes of the corvette transports getting shot at in space and limping back to base, only to be sent out again with battle scars. It's cathartic, somehow.
You know, this is such a cool looking ship and being able to ferry soldiers to a planet is always needed. I can praise Starship Troopers for creating this. With all that said, you would think that the human race would have warships that could do more than what the Rodger Young couldn't. They had no sort of capital ship that could provide fire support for their marines from orbit. Yeah, having bombers and shuttles are good, but even D-Day had battleships and cruisers that could shell enemy opposition on the beaches. Railguns, lasers, and ballistic missiles could level enemy caves or wipe out swaths of bugs. I support a bigger space navy! Squish them bugs dead!
0:35 . MAN that is a spooky and way too realistic way to see into reactionary and ultra conservative ideology. "All the good ideas have already been had, we never need to change, self reflect or challenge our notions. Ever." This movie gets more fitting with each passing day, it's enough to send a shiver up the spine.
One of my top favorite designs from any franchise. With the stats listed here it could fill several roles including exploratory and colonization. Maybe even older retired ships would be retrofitted for civil cargo and passenger transport.
My compliments, you've captured the spirit of the source material (Heinlein's STARSHIP TROOPERS) far better than the movies have, and in the span of a short TH-cam video. A Sun Tsu level analysis. Five gold stars and the depths of space ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🌌
The ship was also designed with internal corridors far larger than Humans needed, but conveniently high enough roofs for Bug Soldiers to charge through. A welcome "upgrade" from the cramped layout of Human Navy ships.
I would love to see someone do something on the events and politics of the book, rather than just the movie of this universe. For years I'd tell people "On the bounce!" And only a very few people got it. The jump jets in the book are something that no other sci-fi series has been able to copy!
Oh, they've got no time for glory in the Infantry. Oh, they've got no use for praises loudly sung, But in every soldier's heart in all the Infantry Shines the name, shines the name of Rodger Young. Shines the name - Rodger Young,
The first encounter with the Arachnids occur over and on Pluto, in which Federation forces won a quick and decisive victory due to a lack of brain bug. This kept the Arachnids at a "feral" or "primitive" level allowing us an easy victory in comparison to later campaigns. This is why the invasion of Klendathu is shown to be a fluster cluck. The last time the Federation went against the bugs, they had no command or higher power to control them, leading to federation forces being overtly cocky and simply thinking they can land and shoot all the "dumb" bugs like on Pluto
@@toptiergaming6900 there are cases of insurrectionist forces in the outer colonies that they kinda do a good job of showing in the movies like Mormonism being more and more widespread and people actively ignoring federation law by owning weapons or protesting. Most of the time though they are either bombed from orbit or are on overpowered due to lack of firearms.
This is the most Starship Troopers script I've ever heard from the Templin Institute. "Intelligence failures caused these ships to suffer heavy losses." Yeah, you're telling me.
A continuity error involving the Rodger Young can be seen in the film Starship Troopers 3: Marauder. During a scene showing the York, at least two Corvette Transports appear in the shot that bear the same ship number as the Rodger Young, which was 176. This error is due to the fact that the models of the Corvette Transports used in the third film were models of the Rodger Young that were left over after the production of the first film.
The Starship Troopers film was so epic that it was the only film I watched twice in the theater in one day. Or, rather, made my mom go to the next theater playing it in the cinema, as she’s told me. I was like 9, maybe 8? I think. Way too young for boobies and cursing and people being stabbed through the stomach lol. It was very strange. It was a big budget, big time special effects/CGI blockbuster that gave a lot of B-movie actors their start. Most of the actors continued in made for VHS or DVD or straight to the Sci-fi channel type of stuff. This film was an anomaly and it’s cool to see someone cover the lore.
One of the interesting facts is that the book has actually been on required reading lists, at both annapolis and West point., And for a certain amount of time on the commandant of the Marine corps recommended reading list for new officers A lot of people may disagree with the social and political statements made in the book but from a leadership and tactics standpoint I can understand why senior leadership wanted new officers to read the book Decades after being first published it still stands up as a classic, and the movie while a satire for the most part was dead on point in other areas One of those rare science fiction movies you can both love and hate at the same time while watching it.... A definite guilty pleasure
Unrelated to this video, but you should really do an video on Fedra from the last of us. I think it would be really interesting considering it's the only zombie apocalypse game or television scenario I can find (excluding WWZ) where the government doesn't just collapse immediately, if only hanging on by a thread 20 years later. It's getting a TV show a remaster of the first game that will probably provide more lore on it as well, And I think it's one of the most interesting factions in the series.
Corvettes? Baaah! Like bringing a knife to planet cracker fight. [suddenly holds hands with a wall] Gotta say the special effects from the movie have held up well. I kinda wanted to see the droppod revolver though.
In the Original book the Roger Young carried one MI platoon with two capsule system drop tubes and at least 2 recovery boats to make the pickup. Out of drive drop back into drive pop back out to drop a boat back into drive pop out to pick up the boat and back into drive to go to fleet rendezvous point. None of this dead slow motion waiting to be hit.
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"MEDIC!!!!"
you won the comments today sir
Nose, feet, elbow? Better just to kill the enemy and not leave the job half done.
@@Nightwolf0301 hell, nowadays you can use voice commands to perform all kinds of tasks on devices!
This, this is golden. Good job sir!
"But in every soldier's heart in all the infantry shines the name, shines the name of Rodger Young."
Sounds like a jazzman name lmao
*"GLORY TO THE FIRST MAN TO DIE! CHAAAAAARRRRRRRRGE!!!"*
@@weldonwin Dawn of War Commissars are peak moto and nobody can change my mind.
"36 seconds, Lieutenant ... some music while you wait?"
M.I. does dying, Fleet just does the flying
After being shot down by Giant Artillery Bugs, those Rodger Young Type ships must be as weak as paper mache... Or Raditz!
High Com does the hideing
*Punches you in the face*
@@rexlumontad5644 ultimately the issue is one of "they weren't built for this". The RY type were built for fighting against rogue colonists or less advanced races with no anyi-orbit capacity. But as the Federation would discover.... The Bug aren't that stupid. Stupid races don't build spaceships (this is the case in all mediums btw)
Does "the" flying. That's why you're in the MI and the literate class are in the navy :)
On July 31, 1943, the infantry company of which Pvt. Young was a member, was ordered to make a limited withdrawal from the battle line in order to adjust the battalion's position for the night. At this time, Pvt. Young's platoon was engaged with the enemy in a dense jungle where observation was very limited. The platoon suddenly was pinned down by intense fire from a Japanese machinegun concealed on higher ground only 75 yards away. The initial burst wounded Pvt. Young. As the platoon started to obey the order to withdraw, Pvt. Young called out that he could see the enemy emplacement, whereupon he started creeping toward it. Another burst from the machinegun wounded him the second time. Despite the wounds, he continued his heroic advance, attracting enemy fire and answering with rifle fire. When he was close enough to his objective, he began throwing handgrenades, and while doing so was hit again and killed. Pvt. Young's bold action in closing with this Japanese pillbox and thus diverting its fire, permitted his platoon to disengage itself, without loss, and was responsible for several enemy casualties.[6]
Private Young also refused a promotion because he was hard of hearing
They shall never be forgotten!
His actions in the face of the enemy reflected great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Army.
What a moron died for no reason on some stupid battlefield in the name of duty, loyalty, honor and so on aka all the reasons to control people.
Instead killing the war mongering leaderships would have saved millions of lives and prevented genocide.
You know the whole point of the true mobile infantry (as in the novel Starship Troopers) is to act as shock troopers to intimidate hostile nations to get a favorable position for peace talks. This is done by dropping the mobile infantry in their mechanized battle armor from space to target leadership positions. One of the primary differences between the novel and the movie is that in the novel the humans fully acknowledge the bugs as a sentient species and try to negotiate peace. While the bugs are at the mercy of the human space navy who is able to destroy whole planets from space the humans do not want to commit genocide and instead use their shock troops and negotiations.
He was posthumously awarded the medal of honor.
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@@hellfish2309 Would you like to know more?
I liked this video, and I’d expect anyone else in this unit to do the same!
Yes sir!!! You heard the lieutenant. Saddle up!
I'M DOING MY PART!
These comments brings tears to my eyes 👍
You wanna know more?
Would you like to know more about the world of Starship Troopers?
As a matter of fact, yes, I do.
Im doing my part!
Watch the synopsis made by Sargon of Akkad. It's eye opening.
@@genericnamehere7602 rather not
Ah yes, the ships with racetracks for their escape craft, instead of just mounting them in tubes in the hull, resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths!
Let’s not forget the dumb tactical blob formation when entering enemy controlled zones of a planet
are you implying that the Federation was in fact an incompetent, whose negligence bordered on criminal?
Perish the thought!
They should have bombarded the Bug planet first
@@rexlumontad5644 bombardment would only serve a temporary solution sense you can only go so far from the scorched surface to the deep depths of the bug underground.
@@temporaryalien5573 Then Exterminatus it
"Come on you apes, you wanna live forever!?"
I loved the movie, it was my first exposure to the world and honestly as cheesey as they were I loved the sequels. And the book was a treat on it's own.
Now the animations and the recent games, feels good to see the old franchise getting love.
watch the show "Roughnecks, starship trooper chronicles" it's closer to the book and it's SOOOOOOOOOOOO good
and it's freely available on TH-cam. Too bad they never finished the show
@@sebleonard8273 What happened?
@@rexlumontad5644 They ran so far behind schedule it was hilarious. They often had to rerun episodes for weeks before new ones were available
@@fanusobscurus Ah I thought they went on hiatus, got copyrighted or are burned out
@@rexlumontad5644 yeah, no, this was back in the late 90s. Also, fun fact, Halo stole the suits from it.
Bugs: Wait till Human starships cluster up for assault landing to launch plasma bombs at them..
Humans: Find where bugs cluster to deploy nuclear bombs…
Both: Sending in waves of Drones to eradicate the other..
Navy does the Flyin', we do the Dyin'.
That's because they want to live forever
Fleet does the flyin, MI does the dyin
Navy did plenty of Dyin in the first film
@@Harbinger37 Their ships are as weak as paper mache... Or Raditz
@@Harbinger37 unlike MI they really try not to make a habit of it... ships are expensive
2:20 I love the implications of the MI having more ships to land than ships to pick soldiers back up
I mean, landing crafts could just pick them back up..
a 50% casualty rate is the norm i guess XD
Well tbf
There is a reason they send you there, you are supposed to stay and fight
By the time the requested retrieve force arrive, your troops would probably already die alot
There aren't any implications, just good tactical sense. The MI are essentially light infantry and therefor require shock to carry a fight, which means everything has to land at once. However, when de-assing from an area, a perimeter has to be set and defended for your pickup to land, so you leave by section/squad/platoon/company and that perimeter isn't broken until the last unit leaves; this is to prevent the landing zone from being overrun.
That being the case, it makes perfect sense to have more assault ships than ferries.
Not saying this was the case, but a lot of Starship Trooper movie/media fans treat the book the same way as early Warhammer 40k (like a satire). It's not quite that grim or statist.
That last bit about History and Moral Philosophy made me immediately go "yup, they read the book"
After all, another bit from the book did state: "you can bomb it, burn it, gas it, or turn it to glass. But you don't own it unless your troops are on it, and the other guy's aren't." I know I most likely messed it up, but.... The spirit of the line is still there
That is a truth that no matter how much we may wish otherwise is still very relevant. You can have all the airpower, artillery and tanks you want to support them but infantry is still the core fighting force for taking ground.
this always been such an awesome looking ship design. and actually quiet a lot of modularity and thought put into its design and all... even when these ships kinda sucks balls...
As far as human built starships in that general tech level they are some of the most durable ones out there.
I mean the amount of damage some were shown to have taken and still returned to port is amazing.
@@26th_Primarch cuz the engine n stuff is all in the back and each engine can swivel around making em fairly numerable, so can still perform complex stuff with even only 2 of em working....
and well the engines are fairly well protected with all that crew quarter and human bodies part all in front of it - the plasma balls have to travel through a lot of ship to get to the engines :DD :P
Imagine having a fleet like this get decimated by a beetle's spicy fart.
Their ships' armor are as weak as paper mache or Raditz
Bug's tacos. Nothing is spicier.
Bugs:Farting!!! Farting everything WE have!!!
@@rexlumontad5644 A cool ship design and a cool saiyan design, how dare you make fun of two cool things at once :(((
The Bugs really got into Taco Tuesday in their little piece of the universe, the farts weren't just epic they were weaponized to the point of being lethal
It's damn clever having the landing boats craned out of the outside hull BEFORE starting it's engines to leave. I'd still have a separate landing capable hanger on the other end of the ship so once recovered and refueled it can go down a conveyor to enter the loading area.
1. Not washing flames and heat inside means no danger of injuring personnel. This means the ability to continuously load and unload personnel.
2. Since no heat or flames were inside the ship, no extra oxygen gets burned up that could've been used for, oh I don't know, like breathing! Lol
I'm not sure if they showed how the ships re-enter the ship. I'd have a separate landing capable hanger on the other end of the ship so once recovered and refueled, it can go down a conveyor to enter the loading area.
Don't think too much into it, any smarter faction with such advanced technology would have just carpet bombed Klendathu before attempting landing.
Ffs, the movie is supposed to be a satire. The Federation using stupid tactics and equipment that is poorly designed, THAT´S THE WHOLE POINT!
It´s over 25 years, since this movie was released and people are still not getting it.
@@doublep1980 Well, then almost all scifi battles are satire. Starwars, Mass Effect, Star Trek, etc.
@@caelestigladii Are you people dense?!
Paul Verhoeven has stated many times, that the movie is a satire on US militarism and how the military brass doesn't care about the lives of the common soldier.
Like in WWI or in Vietnam, were the higher ups would send countless soldiers in their deaths, to achieve goals that had pretty much zero strategic value.
''wHy dO tHeY DoN't hAvE tAnKs & AiR sUpPoRt?"
Because the Federation doesn't give a shiet about the boots on the ground and is a bunch of incompetent idiots, that has no clue what they're fighting against.
If they did, they would just carpet bomb Klendathu.
It's kinda similar with Warhammer 40K, where the Imperium throws literally millions of troops into the meat grinder.
IT'S SATIRE, NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF MILITARY TACTICS.
DO YOU GET IT NOW?!
@@CaptainSeato Not all of the corvette transport ships have flat space above. Some have the flat area fully covered. And in Rodger Young case, it have frame structure hanging across that flat space with some spinning structure in the middle on the flat area.
So that area definitely not for retrieving dropships or shuttle.
To the everlasting glory of the Infranty!
Come on you apes! Do you wanna live forever?!
Shines the name, shines the name, of Rodger Young!
I love this ship design. I was really surprised to see that ship on the ending of Kaguya-sama.
The starship troopers invasion is better
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 based on the design, the John A. Warden and the small Fast Attack Crafts are way more elegant in aesthetics, not to mentions honest-to-goodness laser cannons!
Not going to lie, when I saw that the Templin Institute released a document regarding the Rodger Young class Corvette, my first though was of those brave individuals who served the Greater Terran Union during the Algan Wars, the Faraxian Wars, the Rixian Wars and the Skiron Campaigns. Glory to the GTU.
It would be interesting to see how the tech would appear if it were more in line with the book. The original Starship Troopers book used small and efficient squads of troopers in mechanized battle armor that were more like Elementals. It made much more sense than transporting millions of soldiers across the galaxy without even full suits and breathing gear to Zapp Branigan the enemy.
Well the later animations like Invasion and Traitor of Mars has them using powered armor suits like the book. Also I think they don't need rebreatber gear is bc the bugs also breath oxygen? Idk but Roughnecks does the books justice in terms of that
@@bamaboy5746 I haven't seen much of the later series, so it's possible that they tried to be more accurate to the source material. If I recall correctly, at least some bug types could survive vacuums, so maybe the idea was that they only showed planets with known breathable atmosphere and would have used different gear elsewhere, but it was never addressed.
The Starship Troopers miniature game depicted the battle armour, the light infantry, and the Roughneck-chronicles-type power armour as being three different types of formation within the same military organisation. Though it's not something our narrators concern themselves with, it's possible that the cost and logistical requirements of battle armour and power armour make it impossible for the Federation to equip their entire military with them. By way of analogy: a general in the Wars of the Roses would no doubt have liked to have everyone in his force equipped with full plate, but that doesn't mean that any of them got their wish.
@@stephenwood6663 Logistically, it makes sense; probably a lot easier to have a mass fabricator stamp out helmets, plates and boots compared to an entire sealed, powered armor system. Another truism of war; the best gear is almost always the most expensive, and the most impossible to mass produce.
I really like the miniature game honestly for putting it all together.
@@KillerOrca well there are logical limits to that, obviously yes not every soldier would be issued the full power armor, however realistically sending men halfway around the galaxy would be very expensive, and every man, and his gear is valuable, while in the war of the roses not every man wore plate, it's also true that the conquistadors in the new world went and sent men with the very best because it was impossible to send enough to win by manpower, as shown in the movies these infantry would be I'll suited outside of planetary defense, where you just have to worry about making the gear with the planets own manufacturering equipment, while producing your other goods
I didnt imagine you will manage to pull of such a superb flowing amalgamation of the book and movies 🙂
That's cause he didn't.
A beautiful design, loved the redering from the The Roughnek Chronicles.
Thanks for covering starship troopers stuff. Such an underated film but with an interesting universe to explore.
I love how the MI combat formation is always "blob of joggers"
Helps when your enemy can eat a whole mag of armor-piercing ammo and then cut you in half like wet paper
Inexperienced troops will often tend to clump, and this is more excusable when the enemy's primary ground combat weapon is an angry bug with scythed limbs.
"WE ARE GOING IN WITH THE FIRST WAVE, MEANS MORE BUGS FOR US TO KILL! YOU SMASH THE ENTIRE AREA, YOU KILL ANYTHING WITH MORE THAN TWO LEGS, YOU GET ME?!"
"WE GET YOU SIR!"
WE GET YOU SIR
WE GET YOU SIR
We get you sir!
Good timing of the video. A new Starship Troopers game and a fan movie got released like a week ago.
I've started to suspect you're picking random topics in a challenge to see how bombastic you can manage to make it!
A starship trooper rts came out recently
@@Jack-jz4ls they're all over the place, so it could be both random or that correlation!
I got to cover this book for a book report in American Lit this past school year, best choice I ever made. Also props to my teacher who allowed me to do so.
On top of that, the society in the movie and book is far from Fascist as many like to claim. The uniforms in the movie were used because Paul Verhoven didn't even bother reading the book. He tried to portray them a Fascistic, but largely failed in that too. Look up Sargon of Akkad's synopsis of the movie.
If those are "Corvettes"
What the hell do Cruisers, Destroyers and Capital Class ships look like :O
God I love that film, best scene is the one where Jenkins suddenly turns up in the last third wearing an SS uniform to tell the audience that the yonic brain bug feels pain. Real Kino.
announcer: Young people from all over the globe are joining up to fight for the future.
Soldier #1: I'm doing my part.
Soldier #2: I'm doing my part.
Soldier #3: I'm doing my part.
Young kid: I'm doing my part too. [other soldiers laugh]
announcer: They're doing their part Are you? Join Land Force Command or any of the military branches of The Greater Terran Union and save the world.
Service guarantees citizenship.
The only good Tyrum is a dead Tyrum Terra invicta!
Excect they actually do a good job at it.
@@mill2712 the united citizens federation: who are you?
the Greater Terran Union:I'm You, But Stronger and better and morally right!
“Those who meet us with the sword shall die by their sword! Terra Invicta!”
@@JackofNothingess thank you for both of you'r comments
Gosh, what a beautiful ship she is. I never really appreciated Starship Troopers for its ships, but that's starting to change.
I suggest reading the Starship Trooper RPG and Miniature wargame books. These really give a lot of world-building for the Starship trooper movie lore.
Finding such archaic literature is difficult
I was going to complain how these are in no way *”corvettes”* but then realized the utter genius of it all. The US Navy should rename their new Ford Class Super Carriers “Petite Class Patrol Boats”.
"A surprise to be sure but a welcome one." - The Senate probably
I liked the design enough to use it for my own little universe of stories. Called the Rolf Emerson class. They've become the primary troop ships. Weapons are a bit heavier than what the Rodger Young carries. Plenty of point defense weapons, 10 photon torpedo launchers. Along with 1 dual barrel turret above and aft of the main bridge. Along heavy shields.
Can we see the stories L
Only ten torp launchers? How the hell you gonna reduce an enemy planet to glowing slag and shattered hopes with THAT?
Remember: They badly misused those ships in the movies - they are supposed to be used for covert insertion of squads of seriously bad ass power armor troopers via drop pods and the shuttles are only supposed to be for post-op pick up. I don't think the director understood what a corvette is.
@@muninrob the director wasn't trying to accurately portray future military strategy
@@calebbarnhouse496 He was also obviously not trying to follow "Starship Troopers" - read the book sometime......
One of the coolest ships in science fiction. I've always liked this class of ships since childhood when I watched Starship Troopers.
“Would you like to know more?”
Yessss!!!!
I like this telling of the redeeming parts of the movie with the assertive tone of the novel.
I wish we could've seen some spin off of SST where they show them fighting other races in ship to ship battles while displaying other ship types
I just wish Eaglemoss would get to selling models from this franchise. I loved the design for the Rodger Young!
I also find it interesting how Mobile Infantry surplus gear made its way to the Power Rangers universe.
One of the best starship designs I've seen.
I kinda like the larger drop shuttles that carry just 12 troopers. Each with their own drop pod. Once in low orbit each drop pod is deployed and begins its atmospheric entry before blowinging away into a cloud of highly radar reflective debris to confuse ground to air fire. each trooper then verifies his location and opens fire against any ground targets on the way down to clear his landing zone. on hitting the ground the.... Marauders then go to work.
Oh man been loving the love Starship troopers has gotten lately
Even numbers, on the bounce!
Would you like to know more?
I watch the movie specifically for the scenes of the corvette transports getting shot at in space and limping back to base, only to be sent out again with battle scars.
It's cathartic, somehow.
This has to of been made because of Starship Troopers: Terran Command coming out mid June
Thanks for the ship description.
I never knew until today what it looks like.
You know, this is such a cool looking ship and being able to ferry soldiers to a planet is always needed. I can praise Starship Troopers for creating this. With all that said, you would think that the human race would have warships that could do more than what the Rodger Young couldn't. They had no sort of capital ship that could provide fire support for their marines from orbit. Yeah, having bombers and shuttles are good, but even D-Day had battleships and cruisers that could shell enemy opposition on the beaches. Railguns, lasers, and ballistic missiles could level enemy caves or wipe out swaths of bugs. I support a bigger space navy! Squish them bugs dead!
Or armor, transport vehicles, infantry support vehicles, artillery, etc as well
0:35 . MAN that is a spooky and way too realistic way to see into reactionary and ultra conservative ideology. "All the good ideas have already been had, we never need to change, self reflect or challenge our notions. Ever."
This movie gets more fitting with each passing day, it's enough to send a shiver up the spine.
Another brainlet who thinks listening wisdom of old neans not thinking or adapting
Change is the law of life. The Federation is thus doomed.
I'm glad you included the quote at the end. Would be good to see the institute investigate the book version of the federation and compare though
One of my top favorite designs from any franchise. With the stats listed here it could fill several roles including exploratory and colonization. Maybe even older retired ships would be retrofitted for civil cargo and passenger transport.
This video got me to look up the actual Rodger Young. Thank you.
I would like to know more.
I feel like starship trooper is what 40k movie about IG and Tyranid be like.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?!
YES NO
i like how two out of three sci-fi starships are made by corvette
Shed no tears for me, my glory lives forever!
"On the bounce troopers".
Love the quotes from the book used here.
One of my all-time favorite ship designs.
you can see so much inspiration between UNSC tech and Federation tech.
I'm also a huge fan of the Valley Forge in the Roughnecks series, always loved that design.
The film that secured Michael Ironside as most badass soldier anyone would gladly serve with. Now let's go crush some bugs!
Well :D You can also see him as general Jack Granger of GDI in the Third Tiberium war :D
Ain't much to look at after you scrape them off your boot...
I really wish the movies would have done proper cap trooper drops from the book.
My compliments, you've captured the spirit of the source material (Heinlein's STARSHIP TROOPERS) far better than the movies have, and in the span of a short TH-cam video. A Sun Tsu level analysis. Five gold stars and the depths of space ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🌌
Come on you apes, you want to watch Templin Institute videos forever!!!
The ship was also designed with internal corridors far larger than Humans needed, but conveniently high enough roofs for Bug Soldiers to charge through.
A welcome "upgrade" from the cramped layout of Human Navy ships.
'We are going in with the first wave...that means more bugs for us to kill'
I'm doing my part !
I would love to see someone do something on the events and politics of the book, rather than just the movie of this universe. For years I'd tell people "On the bounce!" And only a very few people got it. The jump jets in the book are something that no other sci-fi series has been able to copy!
Oh, they've got no time for glory in the Infantry.
Oh, they've got no use for praises loudly sung,
But in every soldier's heart in all the Infantry
Shines the name, shines the name of Rodger Young.
Shines the name - Rodger Young,
Still have no idea how so many solders lost limbs before they even went to war against the bugs
The first encounter with the Arachnids occur over and on Pluto, in which Federation forces won a quick and decisive victory due to a lack of brain bug. This kept the Arachnids at a "feral" or "primitive" level allowing us an easy victory in comparison to later campaigns. This is why the invasion of Klendathu is shown to be a fluster cluck. The last time the Federation went against the bugs, they had no command or higher power to control them, leading to federation forces being overtly cocky and simply thinking they can land and shoot all the "dumb" bugs like on Pluto
@@bamaboy5746 I assumed there were so many with injuries because of all the training accidents or because of a previous coup atempt
probably just normal wars against rebels and insurrectionists
@@bamaboy5746 ah makes sense now. Thanks for the insight
@@toptiergaming6900 there are cases of insurrectionist forces in the outer colonies that they kinda do a good job of showing in the movies like Mormonism being more and more widespread and people actively ignoring federation law by owning weapons or protesting. Most of the time though they are either bombed from orbit or are on overpowered due to lack of firearms.
The Star Trooper CGI ages well!!! The movie was made more than 20 years ago!
Shines the name, shines the name of Rodger Young.
Yeah the name Rodger Young looked pretty shiny burning up on reentry.
This is the most Starship Troopers script I've ever heard from the Templin Institute. "Intelligence failures caused these ships to suffer heavy losses." Yeah, you're telling me.
"We just got our fleet cut to pieces by a bunch of giant bug farts.....would you like to know more?"
God, I love that movie. ❤️🙏🏼🌟
Great Video! Starship Troopers is the best fictional universe.
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori."
See's a Rodger Young type, "Desire to know more intensifies!"
A continuity error involving the Rodger Young can be seen in the film Starship Troopers 3: Marauder. During a scene showing the York, at least two Corvette Transports appear in the shot that bear the same ship number as the Rodger Young, which was 176. This error is due to the fact that the models of the Corvette Transports used in the third film were models of the Rodger Young that were left over after the production of the first film.
The Starship Troopers film was so epic that it was the only film I watched twice in the theater in one day. Or, rather, made my mom go to the next theater playing it in the cinema, as she’s told me. I was like 9, maybe 8? I think. Way too young for boobies and cursing and people being stabbed through the stomach lol. It was very strange. It was a big budget, big time special effects/CGI blockbuster that gave a lot of B-movie actors their start. Most of the actors continued in made for VHS or DVD or straight to the Sci-fi channel type of stuff. This film was an anomaly and it’s cool to see someone cover the lore.
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"I'm doing my part..."
I've weirdly been hoping for a video on this
It seems bigger than what I'd expect a corvette to be
Starcraft vehicles when ? Terran Battle cruiser
One of the interesting facts is that the book has actually been on required reading lists, at both annapolis and West point., And for a certain amount of time on the commandant of the Marine corps recommended reading list for new officers
A lot of people may disagree with the social and political statements made in the book but from a leadership and tactics standpoint I can understand why senior leadership wanted new officers to read the book
Decades after being first published it still stands up as a classic, and the movie while a satire for the most part was dead on point in other areas
One of those rare science fiction movies you can both love and hate at the same time while watching it.... A definite guilty pleasure
"COME ON YOU APRS, YOU WANNA LIVE FOREVER!!!"
me likes the video.
me in my mind: IM DOIN MY PART!!!
"RICO you are relieved of squad command"
Unrelated to this video, but you should really do an video on Fedra from the last of us. I think it would be really interesting considering it's the only zombie apocalypse game or television scenario I can find (excluding WWZ) where the government doesn't just collapse immediately, if only hanging on by a thread 20 years later. It's getting a TV show a remaster of the first game that will probably provide more lore on it as well, And I think it's one of the most interesting factions in the series.
How funny, I watched this movie for the first time ever last night!
Hope we eventually get to see the power armor from the animated films!
Corvettes? Baaah! Like bringing a knife to planet cracker fight. [suddenly holds hands with a wall]
Gotta say the special effects from the movie have held up well. I kinda wanted to see the droppod revolver though.
So basically Stellaris troop transport ships. I wonder if they also fly in circles when attacked?
Rough times on planet P glad i, m still alive to tell the tale. 😉
In the Original book the Roger Young carried one MI platoon with two capsule system drop tubes and at least 2 recovery boats to make the pickup. Out of drive drop back into drive pop back out to drop a boat back into drive pop out to pick up the boat and back into drive to go to fleet rendezvous point. None of this dead slow motion waiting to be hit.