"Death from Above" is an airborne infantry slogan. It also makes more sense in the book where the troopers wore power armor and were dropped into the battlefield from low orbit.
It's a shame the director ruined absolutely any chance of a redeeming reboot of Starship Troopers to be made where they actually do the Mobile Infantry stuff they do in the book.
@@Tekisasubakani: I miss the CG animated series. Yes, that incarnation included the Skinnies. Only tangentially related: One summer, it was brutally hot where I live (near the corner of Van Nuys & Roscoe in Southern CA), and I was flipping through the channels to find the day's episode of SST. The day before, we'd hit not just triple digit weather, but broke 120, so you can imagine that rain would be much appreciated. I happened to land on al roker (post-defattening) saying "Well, looks like we dodged a bullet there!", referring to a 15% chance of rain, predicted the day before, evaporating quicker than the rain itself would in 120+ degrees F weather. It was 7 or 8 or 9 in the morning, and already the temperature was just over 90. Fuck al roker!
My high hopes for seeing power armor were dashed, and the best they could do is refer to the recruits as apes. If someone could please do a scene for scene adaptation of the book, I would be grateful.
Fun fact about the shower scene; The cast only agreed to do it if... and only if... Paul Verhoeven, the director, was also nude as they filmed... and since the scene exists...
@@thedoneeye Ahh yes... the sight of a naked, wrinly old man with a pot belly sure would whet the appetite; you're glad you at beforehand because you're full right?
@@NinJestre There wasn’t 300,000 casualties. She was recovered when it was only the Roughnecks, and was brought into the exfil ship because she was injured.
11:25 actually no, the "Death from above" is a common motto used in paratroopers or any trooper that comes in from the sky down on the ground (in their case they use spacecrafts to get to the ground from space).
Considering in the book they drop from low orbit, or HALO drop, and in the movie they just fly to the surface...that tat absolutely doesnt belong in the movie.
The "Death from Above" tattoo is due to the Troopers in the original novel being dropped in power armor from orbiting Starships, like the ODSTs from Halo. Hence the title "Starship Troopers".
@@EpecFale That's because Heinlein actually thought about the story he was writing and the setting he was creating, and Veerhoven just wanted to call a shitty D-list movie "satire". If this movie had been named ANYTHING else, it would have been hilariously bad. But because it's called Starship Troopers, it's just bad.
@@ohilevoeauca789 Comparing the first movie to the book I would say that they did a fare job of translating between the mediums. True some of the best parts of the book, like plot, were left out but the movie was still fun. What makes it 'bad' is that they then put out two more movies just to catch the technology of the movies up to the technology of the books.
Interestingly enough, that line is in the book, and is self-aware. When the recruiter is talking to them, he tells them that he has been intentionally put at the recruiting desk to slow down recruitment, because too many people are enlisting.
Well they didn't spend anything on story, The director asked someone for a TLDR of the book and a made a movie about it. In the Book they dropped in Powered Exosuits like a mix of the ODST's from Halo and Iron man.
These Nude-Scenes show that even back then, the Actors were deranged enough to do such Shameless, unneeded Scenes, just like nowadays. But no, nowadays people are just much more desensitized and more stupid. I mean, its just common practice to have them for NO Reason, even if they feel incredible displaced. Oh, i have seen some in situations where it was so displaced it was like Batman running through the Background in a Horror-Movie about Zombeavers.
@TTabood Have you considered not being argumentative and judgemental? Side effects may include Shutting the fuck up. Ask your doctor if this may be right for you.
@Gwyn and Gold the intitial klendathu battle the Military had no idea what the bugs were capable of. Not to mention the terrain was absolutely horrible for anything larger than small troop transports. They figured a lightning quick smash and destroy would end the war
@Gwyn and Gold ok... 1. The Terran Federation is the exact opposite of "muh' fascism"... It is a meritocratic, voluntary service democracy. In fascism citizenship guarantees service, in the Terran federation, service guarantees citizenship. The contrast is vital. You can live your entire life in the federation as a civilian, and the only legal difference between you and a volunteer citizen is the franchise. (Which, affects your life not one bit.) As a civilian, you have no real responsibility to the state beyond taxes. As citizen, you can participate in the governing of the state, but have a responsibility commensurate with that power. If the Terran Federation was actually fascist, Jhonny's dad would have had that long rant about how citizenship is useless. 2. During the initial invasion of Klendathu, they had no idea what the hell they were dealing with. They though they were dealing with mindless insects which made shock infantry tactics more than adequate. Don't forget, the Federation military had decades of peace where they had no near-peer enemies, which means that their military structure was more of a peacekeeping quick reaction force than a real military. 3. Nuking the planet from orbit sounds like a great plan until you realize that most of the bug population centers are deep underground and more or less impossible to get to even with nuclear munitions.
@Gwyn and Gold Kinda, you have to do federal service. While most people serve in the military, it is not the only form of federal service. The whole idea is to demonstrate a willingness to sacrifice personal gain for the benefit of the federation as a whole before you are given a stake in governing the federation. It's not compulsory. In fact, it is even discouraged. You can live a full and happy life as a civilian with the only loss being the ability to vote or hold public office. That's the core ideal of the Terran Federation. It's the Cincinnatis model of service for the public good. Cincinnatis was a man who was elected, twice, as the dictator of the Roman Republic who was content to return to the life of a simple farmer once his services were no longer needed by the Republic. One of the reasons why I think this book needs to be mandatory reading for all children is to understand a very basic concept. Power over others can only be granted to those who have demonstrated a willingness to sacrifice personal benefit for the common good. The franchise is power over others, by definition. As such, it is a terrible responsibility that needs to be treated with the respect it deserves, not simply a tool for personal advancement. That is the core problem with the universal franchise. To quote Heinlein, "Something freely given has no value". If a person doesn't have to EARN the right to vote, they will put no value in their vote and simply use said vote to advance their own interests. I think the world would be a much better place if we lived under the guiding principles of the Terran Federation. Individual rights are universal. Power over others is only granted to those who have power over one's own desires. It doesn't matter who or what you are. If you demonstrate the ability to put the needs of others ahead of your own, only then can you be trusted with power over others.
They have had "Death from above" tattoo cause they are troopers, that implies landing on an enemy land from above (from starships etc.) So that is a sin off!
16:47 Ah, the reason for that is the small factor of "They actually had her body, because she made it back wounded and died on the ship, whereas the bodies of the rest who died were left where they fell."
You forgot to sin the fact that when the commanding officer loses his legs (totally survivable as long as they can stop the bleeding and get timely medical attention) they have to mercy kill him because they think he’s gonna die, but when Johnny’s gf gets her chest turned into a chopped mango and probably has already had multiple organ failures, they still try to rescue her. That’s worth at least 5 sins for not having basic medical knowledge
Not really dude trooper would have to carry his body while slowing down the team and lowering everyones chance of survival, it's pretty much Game Over for him and he wants his team to survive also it's 2 legs no one so the amount of blood loss would be massive.
@@trilexfix Fair but I still think it was kinda stupid for them to try to rescue her, but good point, I hadn't thought about it from a logistical perspective.
I think the difference is that he specifically asked his roughnecks to kill him if he is badly injured (he probably doesn’t want to spend his life in a wheelchair) while she didn’t. So they probably had to do anything they could to save her. Just like in a hospital
@@keck4022 There was a possibility for her to survive had they NOT REMOVED the bug's severed leg. Once it was removed the blood loss increased to the point of 💯 percent death!!🤦🤦
I've only ever known him as Sam Fisher and some military guy in another thing but I can't remember what it was. I think it was a marvel movie but I can't be sure.
“To ensure that human civilization, not insect, dominates this galaxy now and always”! That would actually make a great slogan for a pest control company Edit: there I fixed it :)
I just sang the words "Johnny's Johnny" to the tune of *"Wooly Bully"* and I have no idea why, but I'm certain I'll have it stuck in my head for at least the next 24 hours. _DING_
But the Johnny mentioned may have been mistaken for the Johnny Johnny, not the Johnny name, thus the Johnny in question would ... waitaminute. Lost track but point taken!
One thing about the guy sweating so much - He's literally the only one jumping out of a probably pretty cooled down Spaceship right onto a desert planet. I'd sweat too. And Dizzy is the only one getting a proper burial because, I don't know, maybe she's literally the only casualty they took with them from the planet?
The best tight end to Johnny's quarterback ever. . Dizzy was a much better character in the book. Shit, the movie evel left out that Dizzy was on the football team with Johnny and Carmen was a cheerleader. Bad writer and clueless director.
on the job anyway, they DO have a very important job after all, a chain is only as strong as their weakest link. I'd love to see a movie where the MC has a scene with their drill sargeant later and they're just relaxing and having a drink or something talking about how the DS is proud of MC and such because most DS's off the job can be the most whole people you'll ever meet. thanks for reading this spew of thoughts with little to no purpose.
@@wiredforstereo Someone didn't watch Full Metal Jacket. Or read Starship Troopers for that matter. Dummies in the infantry die young, and the military has no use for robots.
100% Al, Gunny Ermey portrayed an awesome Marine Corps Drill Instructor in Full Metal Jacket, because he was a Marine Corps Drill Instructor! No acting required, just show up and go to work whipping the recruits, who happened to be actors, in to shape.
@@kalashnikovdevil I have watched Full Metal Jacket and I have read Starship Troopers. I didn't say robots. I said automatons. A machine that follows orders.
Looking through the comments, the one thing I don't see much spoken about is the driving sound design. That music that is played during most the battles. It really elevates the whole movie. I also noticed on a few of the sins, that some of them were answered in the movie at different points. Zander had mentioned he was shipping out to command school during the football game, might have been some type of ROTC type program. Also Denise's reckless leaving the spaceport, she mentions her instructors could not keep up with her and Zander tells her to not go faster than port speed or they get pilot privileges revoked. - Seems very nit picky- As can be seen in the comments this movie is much deeper than most people realize. The satire, the great actors that had smaller roles, It was really spot on. There is a reason it has been watched so much. I think at one time it had one of the highest DVD sales.
Yeah, I think it still hold's up pretty good. Some of the larger bugs and close-up's are a bit meh, but i'd say some of it looks better than a lot of the trash coming out today.
@@notafanofbusesoranyothertr513 Yeah, I re-watched it after seeing cinemasins' video. They actually used quite a lot of dummy's that I had never noticed before, like when Michael Ironside gets his legs ripped off, you can really only tell if you freeze frame it and the Zander dummy in the brain sucking scene was also really well done. There's plenty more examples of the practical effects that I thought looked absolutely amazing, even some of the 3D effects looked great considering it was 1997. I'd hate to think what the rendering time was like for some of those scenes that have hundreds of bugs in them. Paul Verhoeven really knew what he was doing with the effects to make a lot of this stuff believable. I think Cinemasins is a bit of a hack, I've thought that ever since his Captain Marvel video. Personally I found that film to be awful, filled with bad plot points, weak character development, in-your-face politics and really boring to watch, yet it still got less than 100 sins? And this film gets one of his very arbitrary 'BONUS ROUNDS!' this time adding a sin for every time the lead characters name is used? Yeah, OK mate. Sorry for the long-un, but I find I'm only truly happy when I have something to rant about these days.
Yes, why would a member of the Mobile Infantry, Infantry deployed via Droppod, from Orbit onto the ground, choose death from above as a motto. Boggles my mind.
His best "not even a smirk" came in Community, in the homage to Law & Order, when it's decided that the dispute will be settled in a hearing with him "prosecuting." As he leaves the room, he gives a slight respectful nod and says with all due gravity, "I'll see you in class."
LMAO at 18:25 - Carmen running and pumping her left arm like it's basically fine, even though her shoulder blade and collarbone were just shattered by a 2-inch hole running clean through her body.
"satire as a blunt object" Apparently not blunt enough, some people still think this is just a 'genuine' action movie. I've also heard it described as a 'fascist movie' lol...
Pewdiepie did an excellent video comparing the European reaction to the American reaction around Starship Troopers. Apparently the criticisms of the US military were a little too subtle for some
It do have a bit of fascist format to it, with the propaganda and all. But I prefer the argument that it's a movie about totalitarianism, that at least makes a bit sense
@@thydzz2180 But its not propaganda though, its news....unblemished, raw and complete honest within the confines of the society. Propaganda wouldn't give you the choice of "Do you want to know more?" It would just ram it down the populaces throats and would certainly not under wartime conditions report casualties and losses seen after the failed invasion of Klendathu. The news in Starship Troopers is far more open, truthful and free then our own media organisations are today.
@@jaybatsford I really don’t get how it’s described as fascist besides the racism angle witch isn’t inherent to fascism or authoritarians in general it’s simply an overtly honest country with an American angle on society
@@pierrevilley6675 can't say as I was never hit with a belt by a regular dad. I will say that mine used his ammo belt if it was the closest one at hand.
Did your dad make you and your siblings wait in front of your seat at the table until he arrived before allowing you to sit for your meal? My old man was intense.
*FUN FACT:* The actual Rico Suave worked at a Blockbuster after his musical career was over. He'd never hear the end of it when he stocked the shelves with this movie.
Another sin: After Dizzy gets impaled by the bug, they pull out the giant piece of the bug that was left inside her. Didn’t they learn anything about basic first aid in their Basic Training? If something is sticking out of you , you never remove it because it can kill you faster. And they just rip it out, ruining any chance of her actually surviving.
Also, "We never see them getting in people's heads." Basically the entire plot of ST2. And lets not get started on traitor of Mars (arguably the best of the bunch)
@@sopcannon That's Everything past... number 2 I think... I think 3 was photogenic, meaning they did film the actors, but gave CGI effects... the rest were mostly CGI
These Nude-Scenes show that even back then, the Actors were deranged enough to do such Shameless, unneeded Scenes, just like nowadays. But no, nowadays people are just much more desensitized and more stupid. I mean, its just common practice to have them for NO Reason, even if they feel incredible displaced. Oh, i have seen some in situations where it was so displaced it was like Batman running through the Background in a Horror-Movie about Zombeavers. Or to summarize all that: Sluts, male or female, all sluts. Whoever does such scenes is a Loser by Default.
The shower scene made sense to me, it's a society that has no use for ideas like personal privacy (also seen elsewhere, no one is ever alone), or anything personal for that matter, only the utility that the individual can render unto the state. It's simultaneously efficient hygiene and helpful in forming the closeness needed to go into combat together.
It's just a standard trope in fascist literature. That's the only reason it's in the movie. But despite this movie's commentary on fascism, it doesn't actually portray the kind of fascist state that would actually have co-ed showers. It wouldn't "help in forming the closeness needed to go into combat together." It would simply cause TONS of sexual assault... Much like the current military.
@@amityislandchum Based on a 2015 post on Defense.gov About 10,000 males are sexually assaulted each year vs roughly 8,000 females. With potentially more men being assaulted since men come forward less then women do. Also most Sexual assaults are same sex towards heterosexuals.
@@amityislandchum you should go back in time and explain that to the greek and romans for their battle brothers ideas and how they slept with each other. Clearly it worked for them for a very long time.
The tattoo that said death from above was meant for the infantry since they were dropping in from above. They are the inspiration for the ODST's from the Halo games who were also known as hell jumpers.
Biggest thing wrong with this movie is that Johnny Rico is in love with Carmen instead of Diz i don't care if she's Denise Richards I'd still choose Diz every time.
I was 10 when this movie came out back then I still didn't understand why he chose Carmen over Dizzy. To this day I still think Dina Meyer is crazy hot and she's 50 now
Honestly, I think that Rico's love interest was portrayed accurately. He was " in love" with a woman that didn't really want him (typical for many of us men), and only found the woman that would have been best for him when it was just about too late.
Biggest problem with the movie is Dizzy not getting enough screen time in the shower scene or when her and Johnny hook up in the tent. Dina Meyers is so smoking hot.
True, the second one wasn't great. #3 was better than #2 but not as good as #1. I enjoyed #4: Invasion quite a bit, and I have Traitor of Mars still unopened wrapped in plastic. Hm, perhaps I should watch that today.
@@Gaarafan007 I flat out disregard 2 and 3. Invasion was fun and so was Traitor of Mars. Go ahead and watch it, Dina Meyer reprises her role as Dizzy in it
@@DannyJane. Noooo. I don't mean on TV. I meant on a media...form (i.e. VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray, 4K). I don't ever remember it being on anything more advanced than the DVD. Surya above says otherwise, but not once have I seen a Blu-Ray of True Lies in stores since it originated.
It wasn't awful acting, the movie is satire on fascism and people who accept it without question, marching into the giant mincing machine with a smile on their face, she was playing the part perfectly.
@@Foxtrot369 does it freak you out af too that ppl would rather accept the "let's all get ourselves killed for the greater good" is a part of the actors bad acting rather than satire about totalitarism? I mean this thing came out when I was in my teens and the way folks in the film are expected to blindly follow orders and the 1:1 shiny happy people Media coverage of even the most gruesome deaths... Did strike me as kind of odd. My original sin seems to be being German 🤔
@@hschnabel3055 Nah, people can't see the irony in the movie because they've been brainwashed themselves. Just think about how radicalized people are in 2020 and how they laugh when any person that's a political opposite has a problem in their life.
@Molecule Mind The film is actually satire for both Fascism, a military state, and the propaganda used to control the people. It tries to show you it from the perspective of a civilian that doesn't realize they're being manipulated to believe what they are, which is why you don't see the actual leaders, and only see the military recruiters at best.
@Molecule Mind What exactly do you think fascism looks like from the inside? Have you seen pictures or footage of the _(non-Jewish)_ German public during the 1930s? They all seemed pretty happy and obedient, because they were oblivious to what was really happening and they didn't question their government's propaganda that everything was great and only going to get better. Besides which, what else do you call the whole "Citizen" vs "Civilian" thing in the movie? Where Civilians can't vote, have to pay for education & aren't guaranteed a licence to have children. Whereas Citizens can vote, get free education and have priority licenses to have children. And the only way to become a Citizen is to work for the Federation, military, teaching or test subject. What else is that other than fascism?
Starship Troopers is the best movie ever. It has EVERYTHING. Badass lines, violence, explosions, love, intrigue, mystery, naked chicks, Casper Van Dien being handsome (with a butt shot), a coed shower scene, NPH, a Busey, Michael Ironside being badass, arena football, brain bugs, the game changing flip six three hole, and laser tag. What more could one ask for?!
I've always assumed the bugs didn't target Buenos Aires but just Earth, and it just so happened to flatten the city Rico was from. Kinda like carpet bombing before we invented laser-guided bombs.
It is pretty strongly implied that the humans were the ones who launched the asteroid at Earth so they could droll up some nationalist anti bug sentiment and get the Earth government to agree to attack Klendathu. There is no way that the bugs could have managed to even hit our solar system let alone Earth from the other end of the galaxy. And if that asteroid was traveling at less than light speed it would have taken thousands of years to arrive in our solar system.
@@VicariousReality7 *"The ability to launch a meteorite ACROSS AN ENTIRE GALAXY to hit a planet would require a nearly godlike technology and precision"* Not only that. Considering that asteroids only move at a tiny fraction of the speed of light, this asteroid would take millions upon millions of years to hit Earth. Due to the low speed and star density, the boulder would likely be captured by some star rather than make it through to Earth. Even if these bugs could bring this asteroid up to the speed of light and maintain the speed the whole way, it would still take tens of thousands of years and the release of energy at the speed of light upon impact with the Earth would have destroyed not only the city but the entire planet. Assuming the boulder was from the Oort cloud or one of the asteroid belts, the question still remains as to why space surveillance could have missed the bugs operating in such proximity. How do bugs actually move through space? But another completely different logic error: If this asteroid has been traveling for thousands or millions of years, then the bugs must have sent it off all that time ago. Why should they do this? At that time, people were still relatively primitive creatures without space travel and no one knew anything about the other. Consequently, they were not at war with each other and had no reason to send the asteroid.
"Has there ever been a firm, fair, and/or pleasant drill instructor in cinematic history?" Dude, has there ever been one in actual history? Because I had several, and they were all dickwipes, acting *exactly* like the Full Metal Jacket one did.
@@julesdebeckker627 I'm Russian, and served in the Russian nuclear forces. And from everything I can gather, they've been this way for centuries. At the very least they were the same in the Imperial army in early 20th century. So it's definitely not just the US.
Even more specifically, the guy in Full Metal Jacket was an actual drill instructor, who was playing the role exactly the way he actually did it. There is a very specific psychological reason why they do this, it is intended to complete upend the trainees life, and integrate them into a new culture as fast as possible. And also build a shared bond among the platoon by everyone hating/fearing the drill sergeant.
"If Rico keeps being promoted this fast, by the end of this movie he's going to be Jesus" I would like to formally start a petition to introduce a new rank into the military.
To be fair to Verhoeven, though, Rico's rapid promotion in the movie is part of the satire. The joke there is that the lives of the soldiers, supposedly the honored as "citizens", mean nothing. Rico gets promoted simply because so many people died, and he's too dumb to realize it.
I mean... Rico made it a Lieutenant pretty fast. Nobody mentioned the fact that during that same time, Carl made it a Colonel and was there to _casually_ promote him to the job.
RIght. This is way ol boy is the superior to Denise Richard's character so fast. These guys had at least 8 weeks of boot camp... and this doens't include Advanced Training. Alot of death happened between then.
How do you not sin their use of Mazzy Star's "Fade Into You" as background music during the Rico/Zander fight scene? That remains one of the strangest decisions in cinematic history.
@@joeygallina3714 Totally agree it's a great song AND a great scene, just not great together. It's such a jarring thing to hear playing behind a fight scene. But to each their own. Still a fantastic movie!
Actually everyone noticed the satire. The issue was never with that. The difference now is that people just appreciate the satire more and think it's a stroke of genius, where at the time we just didn't really care. But there is a difference between not noticing and not caring.
The irony of this war movie is that it's the most piss planned war campaign in movie history. Soldiers and mobile infantry are thrown at an enemy they don't know or never trained to fight.
@@100nitrog2 Ha! Try nearly all of them. I think the Mexican War is the only one there was any coherent plan for. Independence War the US had no real infrastructure (understandable, in that case), but they had made little improvement by the War of 1812 -- and lost because of it. Civil War lacked any real strategy until 1864 and in World War I the US learned nothing from watching Europe fight a trench war for years. World War II the US spent years running in circles in Africa before finally coming up with a plan to invade Europe and Korea... Oh, boy, Korea was basically just Vietnam-lite.
@@seprithlicastia463 Yeah, but at least the tactics in the more recent wars weren’t just throw a bunch of soldiers at the enemy with no air support, bombing runs, vehicle support, squad weapons, or reinforcements.
"At this point in their training, why are they not learning how to kill Bugs? That's exactly why they're here." No, they aren't. The initial scenes of the movie were the present day, then it goes back in time, hence why we see the exact same reporter and the same action later when they invade Klendathu. The humans were not at war with the bugs until the bugs attacked Earth via the giant asteroid that destroyed Buenos Aires. If you listen to the news clips in the movie it is postulated that the bugs attacked because of the humans invasion into their territory. So at the point in the movie you are talking about there is no war and they would have no reason to learn to fight Bugs.
@@Karl666Smith they can launch plasmas balls powerfully enough to take out starships and colonize other planets, they probably figured out how to weaponize an asteroid especially since the movie states the bugs continue to send them but the federation has defenses against them after the first one
@Rustie Cuffordson the bugs manage to colonize other planets regardless, this a movie where psychics are real, space bugs figuring out how to weaponize an astreidiod is not far off Especially when they can hijack and control weapon systems of star ships in later movies
Nearly a minute into the video, and you still haven't sinned the first, most important, most relevant, and BIGGEST sin of this movie: NO POWERED ARMOR.
@@rafaelneumann8365 No it wouldn't have, not in 97. Hell, the Video Toaster was becoming dated technology by 97. And, don't make the movie if you can't have powered armor. That would be like making Iron Man without powered armor.
@@rafaelneumann8365 Then this movie should have been postponed. Apparently in the book they have some kind of mech armor. The lack of it and the failure in just bombarding the bug planet with the asteroids surrounding it totally took me out of the movie.
3:56 - it's explained in the film already that citizenship (and rights like voting or having children) is not just given, you need to earn it through service to the Federation - hence people joining the army as citizenship is guaranteed. It's highly likely that given the UCF was formed after a revolt led by intellectuals, going to Harvard (or equivalent) and then joining some part of government service would be a cushy (and safe) way to citizenship hence Rico's parent's demand.
It was explained that the Intellectuals *failed* in their revolt because they lacked a moral science, which in turn is what allowed the veterans' governance to remain stable. The reason Rico's parents does not wish him to join is that most people are not Citizens but Civilians, free to do most things not directly involving governance, and joining the service carries an obvious risk of bodily harm. In their eyes, there is simply no advantage to sign up (politics are bollocks regardless) while there are some definite cons in time lost and risks taken.
You missed the part when Carmen was impaled through the back by a bug limb half the diameter of her torso, and yet after that was literally running, shooting, and being otherwise completely unaffected 😂
Yeah, that part is still nagging me to this day. "Stands up and moves the arm/joint around like it is nothing" whilst in reality it would be limp as heck..
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Verhoeven also directed Robocop, and you can see many similarities with the political satire, distopian militaristic society, and over the top gore. Robocop also incorporated a bit of propaganda like they do in Starship Troopers, but with commercials about war-themed toys and unabashed consumerism, as well as outrageous news briefs on tv rather than the "Would you like to know more?" segments. OCP and the Federal Alliance had similarities, and villains like Clarence Boddiger, his gang of thugs, Dick Jones, and ED-209 were represented by the bugs. Both great movies. But still the best scene in movie history is when Boddiger's henchman Emil crashes into the vat of toxic waste and gets run over and splattered.
Yeah, many don't see the "being human is about our behavior and values, not a 'meat vs. machine' matter", even after the sequel really spells the message to the audience in the final scene.
As a kid growing up watching this, honestly one of the reasons I wanted to join the military (Y'all saying I missed the point, I was a kid like 7-8 when first watched this)
lol this movie was literally making fun of military and facism. Thats like reading Huck Finn and coming to the conclusion you want to be a slave owner.
Heinlein is probably spinning in his grave, but I like this film as much as I like the book - a lot. For different reasons. The film is just a comic book adventure. (Puns intended.)
I feel the same. I watched the movie first, read the book years later. At first I was disappointed that they screwed up the adaptation. It had a few parts that were similar, but it's like Vaerhoeven stopped reading the book while they were in boot camp. And he did, apparently! But the movie is so lame, campy, and just FUN. The book is completely different, and has a very serious tone. I enjoy them both immensely. The sequels of the movie, not so much, although at least in ST3:Marauder they have power armor. The animated episodes were great too, and I'm glad Casper Van Dien has held on to the role of Rico all this time. Hell, if they did a reboot (one can hope!), hopefully he would be in it. Maybe not as Johnny (DING) though, too old now. Man, now I want to go watch the movie AND read the book again..
@@socmonki There was supposed to be a remake in the works that adheres closer to the books, skinnies, power armor, but I haven't heard anything about it in a while.
13:15 the OLDER generation are all missing limbs...the new generation has the tech to regrow the limbs. Its to show that this reality has been throwing lives away for generations.
I read "Everything Wrong With Starsh. ..." NOOOOOO there goes my childhood ... there was a momnent back then when this was the only VHS tape we had :D :D xD
6:33 *someone important decided "this sexist showering practice must end"* i can attest that this might actually happen in the period between 2021 and 2029
10:32 "Also, for an emergency announcement about an ongoing disaster, this sucker is REALLY well edited." Yeah, it's ALMOST like that Government had most of it ready to go and just had to insert a few key images.
To be fair, governments and media outlets usually have multiple versions of a story prepared ahead of big events like this. Nixon had a speech ready for if Armstrong and Aldrin were stranded on the moon, Eisenhower had a speech ready for if the Normandy invasion failed, etc. Edit - So for some reason I thought the original comment was talking about Klendathu, but my post still holds true with some tweaks. If you're a media company, and your government is at war with a race that can chuck space rocks at your planet, it makes sense to have a template for 'space rock hits populated area' and then fill in the blanks mad-lib style.
@@CathrineMacNiel not really. The government in this movie was a Fascist dictatorship that perpetuated propaganda to further the war. It'd be perfectly logical to think they prepared a video like that ahead of time.
The implication is that the destruction of Buenos Aires was a false flag attack - the Bugs spread via spores fired into space and don't have ships or space vehicles in order to send this asteroid. The whole point is it's implied they had the footage PRIOR to the attack.
Since you guys here raise this question... I totally agree on "You have to work for the state to have a say in it" - however, if the whole humanity is ruled by military people, the world's gotta be a really ineffective and "you're the boss, I'm an idiot" style place to live in. "Work for the state" can and probably should focus on non-military stuff or at least have it in equal measure as other branches of state service. I must be really fun at parties
@@dan_loup they say they'll find any job that you can physically do as long as you're mentally capable. The reason we see only soldiers is because it's about a war with the bugs.
It's a conjoined sentence. Besides the point of language is to communicate. If you understood what he meant does it matter if what he said isn't 100% grammatically correct?
Johnny bonus round!! lol! Also.. You forgot to mention the asteroid that struck earth was big enough to do an extinction event. Also Also... they All believe that bugs are stupid. Yet they accept the fact that they can throw an asteroid accross the galaxy straight to earth with pin point accuracy.
To be fair, ants colonise and monkeys throw shit at others. The scene in starship troopers was parodying news sites that are still relevant today, that marginalise and try to laugh at the truth.
If you should know anything about people, it's that they have an infinite capacity to hold contradictory ideas about reality without ever questioning it.
I've seen the movie several times, and a few things I'd like to point out. The movie is satirical towards Fascist propaganda. Sure the bugs might be intelligent, but media, the government, everybody is telling them that the bugs are dumb. Anyone who speaks out against what the propaganda or government says is considered unpatriotic and horrible. It shows this through the random commercials throughout the film. It's i.oed the bugs actually didn't send the asteroids to Earth (the humans had several ships that could shoot down these asteroids, and it was never shown the bugs had the ability to do so). It's more likely the humans attacked the area itself since a few people there were anti-military. They kill those people, use their deaths as propaganda, and boom now they have more support. The movie is actually a lot smarter than people give it credit for, and there's much more if you really analyze it.
@@rpsyco There may be more if you read stuff into it that isn’t there. But the movie is based on an existing work of fiction in which the very same events happen, albeit for slightly different reasons. In the book there is no question that the Bugs are intelligent. They use weapons among other things. In the book the Bugs preemptively attack Buenos Aires as the Federation is completely unaware of them prior to that attack. The movie, for some reason, wants the Federation at the outset to presume the Bugs are unintelligent - then makes the Federation deducing, then confirming, the intelligence of the Bugs a primary plot point. Which reinforces the idea that the Federation in actual fact did not initially think the Bugs were intelligent. Yes, they accept that the Bugs can throw an asteroid across the galaxy...because the Bugs can throw colonization parties across the galaxy. If the Bugs can launch colonies accurately enough across interstellar space to land them on planets orbiting far stars, they can launch a mere rock the same way with the same accuracy. There is literally no need to presume that the whole thing is some Federation-backed false flag operation. In general, if you want to learn what was going on that a movie based on an adapted work doesn’t cover, you can look to the source material for answers. That should be your go-to option. It might take a bit of creativity to reconcile the two (depending on how much the two diverge), but if/when they can be reconciled I’d think that would be preferable to just inventing new answers that are irreconcilable with both.
5:33 - All *real* military drill instructors are also derivatives of R Lee Ermey from Full Metal Jacket. In fact, Ermey's drill instructor performance in Full Metal Jacket was toned down a bit for the movie.
I like that no character questions the actions of the state/military. It shows respect for the audience. It's an Easter egg that's there if you bother to notice it. If you don't, it's just a fun action movie and you kind of *are* a character. It's masterfully done. -10 sins.
@@mustavogaia2655 *AFL :* Where an entire field of 18 players a side wears less collective protective equipment than a single NFL player's left shoulder.
Probably wasn‘t in the budget. If you had to choose between CGI bugs (which btw where utterly incredible for the time), CGI power armor, or a Denise Richards shower scene, many people obviously, and unfortunately, make the wrong decision. 😉 OTOH, imagine the absolute cult status of that movie if it had had all three of those!
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"Death from Above" is an airborne infantry slogan. It also makes more sense in the book where the troopers wore power armor and were dropped into the battlefield from low orbit.
It's a shame the director ruined absolutely any chance of a redeeming reboot of Starship Troopers to be made where they actually do the Mobile Infantry stuff they do in the book.
@@jonathanmensch9698 Eh, the two animated movies actually feel like what the book would look like.
@@lgmmrm Do they include the Skinnies?
@@Tekisasubakani: I miss the CG animated series. Yes, that incarnation included the Skinnies.
Only tangentially related: One summer, it was brutally hot where I live (near the corner of Van Nuys & Roscoe in Southern CA), and I was flipping through the channels to find the day's episode of SST. The day before, we'd hit not just triple digit weather, but broke 120, so you can imagine that rain would be much appreciated.
I happened to land on al roker (post-defattening) saying "Well, looks like we dodged a bullet there!", referring to a 15% chance of rain, predicted the day before, evaporating quicker than the rain itself would in 120+ degrees F weather. It was 7 or 8 or 9 in the morning, and already the temperature was just over 90.
Fuck al roker!
My high hopes for seeing power armor were dashed, and the best they could do is refer to the recruits as apes. If someone could please do a scene for scene adaptation of the book, I would be grateful.
Fun fact about the shower scene;
The cast only agreed to do it if... and only if... Paul Verhoeven, the director, was also nude as they filmed... and since the scene exists...
"Paul Verhoeven, the director, was also nude as they filmed" I'm soooo glad I read *after* I ate.....
You gotta be fucking kidding me! 😂😂😂
@@thedoneeye Ahh yes... the sight of a naked, wrinly old man with a pot belly sure would whet the appetite; you're glad you at beforehand because you're full right?
So either he was naked or that's a lie. :)
@@MagusKain He was naked 😂😂
I love most of these movies even the animated ones. Also Dizzy got a burial because her body was the only one recovered.
*SKIP*
So we're supposed to believe that in a battle with 300,000 casualties of which 200,000 were KIA they only recovered one body?
@@NinJestre it was because he was holding on to her and the bugs eat these people so there not much left to recover sometimes.
Nah. Because you got to smash.
@@NinJestre There wasn’t 300,000 casualties. She was recovered when it was only the Roughnecks, and was brought into the exfil ship because she was injured.
11:25 actually no, the "Death from above" is a common motto used in paratroopers or any trooper that comes in from the sky down on the ground (in their case they use spacecrafts to get to the ground from space).
That is right. The ODSTs & the motto from Halo were inspired by the Starship Troopers novel.
The director actively says it doesn't fit with the movie- they used to HALO drop from orbit in the book.
in fact the origin of the phrase actually has some religious connotation believe it or not.
Considering in the book they drop from low orbit, or HALO drop, and in the movie they just fly to the surface...that tat absolutely doesnt belong in the movie.
@@SolidAvenger1290it’s the motto of the 82nd Airborne Division. A US army paratrooper division.
It didn’t come from Starship Troopers at all.
The "Death from Above" tattoo is due to the Troopers in the original novel being dropped in power armor from orbiting Starships, like the ODSTs from Halo. Hence the title "Starship Troopers".
Isnt death from above also a paratroop saying?
The novel is so much better.
@@EpecFale That's because Heinlein actually thought about the story he was writing and the setting he was creating, and Veerhoven just wanted to call a shitty D-list movie "satire".
If this movie had been named ANYTHING else, it would have been hilariously bad. But because it's called Starship Troopers, it's just bad.
The books don't matter!
@@ohilevoeauca789 Comparing the first movie to the book I would say that they did a fare job of translating between the mediums. True some of the best parts of the book, like plot, were left out but the movie was still fun. What makes it 'bad' is that they then put out two more movies just to catch the technology of the movies up to the technology of the books.
"Mobile infantry made me the man I am today." Should have showed that scene, deserves a sin off
Interestingly enough, that line is in the book, and is self-aware. When the recruiter is talking to them, he tells them that he has been intentionally put at the recruiting desk to slow down recruitment, because too many people are enlisting.
The cgi in this movie actually aged really well imo
Probably because it mixed in practical effects
LMAO
Well they didn't spend anything on story, The director asked someone for a TLDR of the book and a made a movie about it. In the Book they dropped in Powered Exosuits like a mix of the ODST's from Halo and Iron man.
@@Diceyst Traitor of Mars anime for those that would like reference to these suits. They are quite good suites.
These Nude-Scenes show that even back then,
the Actors were deranged enough to do such
Shameless, unneeded Scenes, just like nowadays.
But no, nowadays people are just much more
desensitized and more stupid.
I mean, its just common practice to have them
for NO Reason, even if they feel incredible displaced.
Oh, i have seen some in situations where it
was so displaced it was like Batman running through
the Background in a Horror-Movie about Zombeavers.
Nothing. Nothing is wrong with this movie. This is cinematic perfection.
I love this movie, it’s cheesy yes, but it’s so good.
you're either joking or clueless
@TTabood Have you considered not being argumentative and judgemental? Side effects may include Shutting the fuck up. Ask your doctor if this may be right for you.
@@mrsfreedom7610 lol
You beat me to it
Quickest ever romance to ending.
"I love you Johnny"
"I'm dying Johnny"
Thank god, she was kinda ugly
@@clxwncrxwn She was hot in Star Trek Nemesis.
She was in saw 2
@@clxwncrxwn boooo lol
"I'm losing a lot of blood and getting very Dizzy."
Getting in a fight then almost immediately getting a tattoo.
Is the most infantry shit I can really think of.
Most military thing to do in general lol.
@Gwyn and Gold Deploying those from orbit is probably a bit more trouble than its worth when you have total air superiority. (in theory)
@Gwyn and Gold the intitial klendathu battle the Military had no idea what the bugs were capable of. Not to mention the terrain was absolutely horrible for anything larger than small troop transports. They figured a lightning quick smash and destroy would end the war
@Gwyn and Gold ok...
1. The Terran Federation is the exact opposite of "muh' fascism"... It is a meritocratic, voluntary service democracy. In fascism citizenship guarantees service, in the Terran federation, service guarantees citizenship. The contrast is vital. You can live your entire life in the federation as a civilian, and the only legal difference between you and a volunteer citizen is the franchise. (Which, affects your life not one bit.) As a civilian, you have no real responsibility to the state beyond taxes. As citizen, you can participate in the governing of the state, but have a responsibility commensurate with that power. If the Terran Federation was actually fascist, Jhonny's dad would have had that long rant about how citizenship is useless.
2. During the initial invasion of Klendathu, they had no idea what the hell they were dealing with. They though they were dealing with mindless insects which made shock infantry tactics more than adequate. Don't forget, the Federation military had decades of peace where they had no near-peer enemies, which means that their military structure was more of a peacekeeping quick reaction force than a real military.
3. Nuking the planet from orbit sounds like a great plan until you realize that most of the bug population centers are deep underground and more or less impossible to get to even with nuclear munitions.
@Gwyn and Gold Kinda, you have to do federal service. While most people serve in the military, it is not the only form of federal service. The whole idea is to demonstrate a willingness to sacrifice personal gain for the benefit of the federation as a whole before you are given a stake in governing the federation. It's not compulsory. In fact, it is even discouraged. You can live a full and happy life as a civilian with the only loss being the ability to vote or hold public office. That's the core ideal of the Terran Federation. It's the Cincinnatis model of service for the public good. Cincinnatis was a man who was elected, twice, as the dictator of the Roman Republic who was content to return to the life of a simple farmer once his services were no longer needed by the Republic.
One of the reasons why I think this book needs to be mandatory reading for all children is to understand a very basic concept. Power over others can only be granted to those who have demonstrated a willingness to sacrifice personal benefit for the common good. The franchise is power over others, by definition. As such, it is a terrible responsibility that needs to be treated with the respect it deserves, not simply a tool for personal advancement. That is the core problem with the universal franchise. To quote Heinlein, "Something freely given has no value". If a person doesn't have to EARN the right to vote, they will put no value in their vote and simply use said vote to advance their own interests.
I think the world would be a much better place if we lived under the guiding principles of the Terran Federation. Individual rights are universal. Power over others is only granted to those who have power over one's own desires. It doesn't matter who or what you are. If you demonstrate the ability to put the needs of others ahead of your own, only then can you be trusted with power over others.
They have had "Death from above" tattoo cause they are troopers, that implies landing on an enemy land from above (from starships etc.) So that is a sin off!
*MEGADETH intensifies!*
Finger squeeze triggers till bug guts cover your soul!
In the books they dropped from starships in mech suits.
@@jaeger.editz_ they get to do that in ST3:Marauder.
16:47 Ah, the reason for that is the small factor of "They actually had her body, because she made it back wounded and died on the ship, whereas the bodies of the rest who died were left where they fell."
"we're ahead of the curve"
Yea, so is that asteroid.
Foreshadowing?
Lol
@@DiegoRuiz1991 llKLllll
*Ding*
Everything wrong with ROMPER STOMPER... I Dare him...
Should've taken a sin off for every bug killed on-screen.
Because a dead bug is always a good thing.
Would you like to know more?
@retsaM innavoiG federation did nothing wrong - considering the fact they are fighting a defensive war
-would you like to know more?
desire to know more intesifies
Cool
@@nickvanachthoven7252 I thank you.
“The only good bug is a dead bug.”
Is it known.
"They sucked his brains out" is the greatest single line in any movie ever made.
Michael ironside was godlike in this movie
@@edschramm6757 i can't picture anyone better to deliver the line
Should remove a sin for that line
We all have bros that we say this about.
oh
You forgot to sin the fact that when the commanding officer loses his legs (totally survivable as long as they can stop the bleeding and get timely medical attention) they have to mercy kill him because they think he’s gonna die, but when Johnny’s gf gets her chest turned into a chopped mango and probably has already had multiple organ failures, they still try to rescue her. That’s worth at least 5 sins for not having basic medical knowledge
Not really dude trooper would have to carry his body while slowing down the team and lowering everyones chance of survival, it's pretty much Game Over for him and he wants his team to survive also it's 2 legs no one so the amount of blood loss would be massive.
@@trilexfix Fair but I still think it was kinda stupid for them to try to rescue her, but good point, I hadn't thought about it from a logistical perspective.
I think the difference is that he specifically asked his roughnecks to kill him if he is badly injured (he probably doesn’t want to spend his life in a wheelchair) while she didn’t. So they probably had to do anything they could to save her. Just like in a hospital
@@keck4022 There was a possibility for her to survive had they NOT REMOVED the bug's severed leg. Once it was removed the blood loss increased to the point of 💯 percent death!!🤦🤦
@@daniellanning115 She was stabbed 4 times, twice in the chest. The leg being removed was the least to worry about
Ironsides never a more appropriate name for one of my favorite actors who usually plays the villain.
I hear Darkseid, but I also remember when he replaced Roy Scheider as the Captain of the seaQuest from "seaQuest 2032"
You know Sam fisher voice was inspired by a merc he met at his friends wedding.
@@johnnyrico7744 Some say it was John Mullins, some say it was John Clark.
I've only ever known him as Sam Fisher and some military guy in another thing but I can't remember what it was. I think it was a marvel movie but I can't be sure.
@@lionocyborg6030 He and Clancy Brown, who played the drill sergeant, are often asshole military villains
“To ensure that human civilization, not insect, dominates this galaxy now and always”!
That would actually make a great slogan for a pest control company
Edit: there I fixed it :)
I'll just be taking this.....
That sounds like something from Men in Black
*Person who found a spider in their kitchen:* ok... that's cool, but can you just get rid of it...
These are not 14 words, but close enough.
@@CorneliusSchwarzenstein "We must ensure that man, not any insect, dominates the galaxy now and always"
Fixed it
'Her eyes are up here, Johnny' he says while chastising Johnny even though he's clearly playing a clip with Diz peeking down and Johnnys' Johnny
I just sang the words "Johnny's Johnny" to the tune of *"Wooly Bully"* and I have no idea why, but I'm certain I'll have it stuck in my head for at least the next 24 hours.
_DING_
@@mrmojomajestic8317 Johnnyss Johnnnnnay; Johnnys'-Johnny...
Johnnys'-Johnny, Johnnys'-Johnny, Johnnys'-Johnny
Lmaooo
But the Johnny mentioned may have been mistaken for the Johnny Johnny, not the Johnny name, thus the Johnny in question would ... waitaminute. Lost track but point taken!
@@CoalCreekCroft If we're lost now just think about when we're talking about Peters' Peter!
@@Nesher_IL Admittedly deserved.
One thing about the guy sweating so much - He's literally the only one jumping out of a probably pretty cooled down Spaceship right onto a desert planet. I'd sweat too.
And Dizzy is the only one getting a proper burial because, I don't know, maybe she's literally the only casualty they took with them from the planet?
Only thing wrong with this movie is they killed Dizzy, the best character.
After watching it again... she was the shit
AGREED!!
(and not just because of the topless scene 😈)
Was she not a vehicle to elicit a sense of loss the audience?
The best tight end to Johnny's quarterback ever.
.
Dizzy was a much better character in the book. Shit, the movie evel left out that Dizzy was on the football team with Johnny and Carmen was a cheerleader. Bad writer and clueless director.
@@lazerlord9324 yea carmen was somethin little. Dizzy was some real. Get a women that's down for you like that
I'm surprised it took them this long to get to this one. It seems like something they'd be chomping at the bit to do as one of their first videos.
I've been here since the beginning and I dont remember it, but I also thought the same as you. Thought about going back to see if it even existed lol
wonder how long till they cover the 2nd 3rd and 4th movie
The drill sergeant sin isn't fair... They're almost all like that in real life. It's not just the movies.
If you're going to brainwipe soldiers into mindless automatons, there's obviously a right way to do it.
on the job anyway, they DO have a very important job after all, a chain is only as strong as their weakest link.
I'd love to see a movie where the MC has a scene with their drill sargeant later and they're just relaxing and having a drink or something talking about how the DS is proud of MC and such because most DS's off the job can be the most whole people you'll ever meet.
thanks for reading this spew of thoughts with little to no purpose.
@@wiredforstereo Someone didn't watch Full Metal Jacket. Or read Starship Troopers for that matter. Dummies in the infantry die young, and the military has no use for robots.
100% Al, Gunny Ermey portrayed an awesome Marine Corps Drill Instructor in Full Metal Jacket, because he was a Marine Corps Drill Instructor! No acting required, just show up and go to work whipping the recruits, who happened to be actors, in to shape.
@@kalashnikovdevil I have watched Full Metal Jacket and I have read Starship Troopers.
I didn't say robots. I said automatons. A machine that follows orders.
Looking through the comments, the one thing I don't see much spoken about is the driving sound design. That music that is played during most the battles. It really elevates the whole movie. I also noticed on a few of the sins, that some of them were answered in the movie at different points. Zander had mentioned he was shipping out to command school during the football game, might have been some type of ROTC type program. Also Denise's reckless leaving the spaceport, she mentions her instructors could not keep up with her and Zander tells her to not go faster than port speed or they get pilot privileges revoked. - Seems very nit picky- As can be seen in the comments this movie is much deeper than most people realize. The satire, the great actors that had smaller roles, It was really spot on. There is a reason it has been watched so much. I think at one time it had one of the highest DVD sales.
But without Starship Troopers, Firefly would never have their Alliance armor.
That armor also showed up in Power Rangers Lost Galaxy!
@@shuboy05 You have no armor
Babylon 5 as well
... and Master Chief's tag-along lackeys would also have nothing to wear
Also makes an appearance in G-Saviour I think, Bandai's attempt at a live action Gundam film in 2000.
The special effects in this movie actually held up for quite a number of years...
I mean, most of it still holds up even now.
Yes sir, this movie kicked ass before kick ass.
Yeah, I think it still hold's up pretty good. Some of the larger bugs and close-up's are a bit meh, but i'd say some of it looks better than a lot of the trash coming out today.
Not to mention the dummy head of the guy who gets shot in the live fire training looks fantastic. Cinemas sins has really gone downhill.
@@notafanofbusesoranyothertr513 Yeah, I re-watched it after seeing cinemasins' video. They actually used quite a lot of dummy's that I had never noticed before, like when Michael Ironside gets his legs ripped off, you can really only tell if you freeze frame it and the Zander dummy in the brain sucking scene was also really well done.
There's plenty more examples of the practical effects that I thought looked absolutely amazing, even some of the 3D effects looked great considering it was 1997. I'd hate to think what the rendering time was like for some of those scenes that have hundreds of bugs in them.
Paul Verhoeven really knew what he was doing with the effects to make a lot of this stuff believable.
I think Cinemasins is a bit of a hack, I've thought that ever since his Captain Marvel video. Personally I found that film to be awful, filled with bad plot points, weak character development, in-your-face politics and really boring to watch, yet it still got less than 100 sins? And this film gets one of his very arbitrary 'BONUS ROUNDS!' this time adding a sin for every time the lead characters name is used? Yeah, OK mate.
Sorry for the long-un, but I find I'm only truly happy when I have something to rant about these days.
You can’t sin cinema history for
Not having a “pleasant” drill instructor. They don’t exist in real life either
@@moarkrabspointlesschanneld8467 AIDS
The DI wasn't using "knife hands", which was recently prohibited in the US military for being "unpleasant", so by comparison, he was a "pleasant" DI.
@@Ciborium well. He did knife someone’s hand?
@@linken0879 Clearly, they are Space Marines
As a former Navy guy, yes they do exist.
"You know what bugs me about this movie?" Hahahahaha
Just as I was thinking : "Man I miss the Bonus Rounds" We got a Johnny Bonus Round!!! Died laughing! Thanks^^
There's NO WAY you thought that as it popped up but I like the comment anyway
The music was the same music played in some bonus areas in super mario odyssey as well, loved it when I realised
@@itouchmazter5973 I swear I hoped for one like 15 seconds earlier
Expected humans get killed off hilariously tho
I read this comment as the bonus round started
I didn’t even know that I needed a Johnny bonus round but holy crap lmao!!!
Yes, why would a member of the Mobile Infantry, Infantry deployed via Droppod, from Orbit onto the ground, choose death from above as a motto.
Boggles my mind.
I guess having everyone get an earing was to difficult to film.
It's also a saying used by the 82nd Infantry Division before they became an airborne Division
Probably didn't read the book.
Michael Ironside deserves a goddamn Oscar for this performance. "They sucked his brains out" and not even a tiny smirk - that's some serious acting.
He was always a underrated actor
Lmaooooo
Scanners
His best "not even a smirk" came in Community, in the homage to Law & Order, when it's decided that the dispute will be settled in a hearing with him "prosecuting." As he leaves the room, he gives a slight respectful nod and says with all due gravity, "I'll see you in class."
See you at the pahhty Richter!
LMAO at 18:25 - Carmen running and pumping her left arm like it's basically fine, even though her shoulder blade and collarbone were just shattered by a 2-inch hole running clean through her body.
I mean, how do you know what that would be like?
"satire as a blunt object"
Apparently not blunt enough, some people still think this is just a 'genuine' action movie. I've also heard it described as a 'fascist movie' lol...
It IS a genuine action movie. And what satire? We should revamp the UN to be this. -:)
Pewdiepie did an excellent video comparing the European reaction to the American reaction around Starship Troopers. Apparently the criticisms of the US military were a little too subtle for some
It do have a bit of fascist format to it, with the propaganda and all. But I prefer the argument that it's a movie about totalitarianism, that at least makes a bit sense
@@thydzz2180 But its not propaganda though, its news....unblemished, raw and complete honest within the confines of the society. Propaganda wouldn't give you the choice of "Do you want to know more?" It would just ram it down the populaces throats and would certainly not under wartime conditions report casualties and losses seen after the failed invasion of Klendathu.
The news in Starship Troopers is far more open, truthful and free then our own media organisations are today.
@@jaybatsford I really don’t get how it’s described as fascist besides the racism angle witch isn’t inherent to fascism or authoritarians in general it’s simply an overtly honest country with an American angle on society
having a dad that was a drill sergeant in the 80's and 90's I can honestly say they were all like that.
So you confirm the legend that says that drill sergeant's belts slaps harder than regular dad's belts ?
@@pierrevilley6675 can't say as I was never hit with a belt by a regular dad. I will say that mine used his ammo belt if it was the closest one at hand.
Plus, he obviously is unaware of the fact that R.Lee Ermry was an actual drill instructor before doing FMJ and that he wasn't "acting".
Did your dad make you and your siblings wait in front of your seat at the table until he arrived before allowing you to sit for your meal? My old man was intense.
@@mr.nobody42 he wasn't that strict but we weren't allowed to drag our feet
Yup. I saw this movie in theatres. I can confirm we all shouted "Suave" every time they said Rico (suave. Still effects me today)
I was too young to see it in theaters but when I first watched it on VHS I also shouted "suave".
Proof that propaganda works
It's impossible for me too. If I hear Rico somewhere, I have to answer/think "Suave".
*FUN FACT:* The actual Rico Suave worked at a Blockbuster after his musical career was over. He'd never hear the end of it when he stocked the shelves with this movie.
Another sin: After Dizzy gets impaled by the bug, they pull out the giant piece of the bug that was left inside her. Didn’t they learn anything about basic first aid in their Basic Training? If something is sticking out of you , you never remove it because it can kill you faster. And they just rip it out, ruining any chance of her actually surviving.
That wouldn't have mattered. She has 3 other giant open wounds. She was dead either way
@@chrisalexander8110tbh there are many things in this video which I think are subjective, like the sin for the propaganda movie.
@@davethewastelander83261 million sins for that profile picture
She got stabbed through both sides of her chest. She was done for.
"By the end of the movie he's going to be Jesus."
Starship Troopers 3 : Let me introduce myself.
Also, "We never see them getting in people's heads."
Basically the entire plot of ST2.
And lets not get started on traitor of Mars (arguably the best of the bunch)
@@135Fenrir Nah, I still prefer the 1st over Traitor of Mars; but collectively, we can all agree that number 2 was by leaps and bounds the worst
and then there is the cgi starship troopers.
@@sopcannon That's Everything past... number 2 I think... I think 3 was photogenic, meaning they did film the actors, but gave CGI effects... the rest were mostly CGI
You’re kidding.
The “Rico Suave” reference KILLED me. Can you believe I saw Gerado perform at Busch Gardens Williamsburg in 1991 when I was 14? Yeah. Neither can I.
I come from a demented childhood of listening to Dr Demento at like 11pm on sunday nights so i dont hear Rico Suave, i hear Weird Al...Taco Grande
" Rico Suave" not sauve.
He’s an attorney in Southern California with two daughters last I heard.
@@The8thblock Thanks?
"Why the hell did the bugs target Buenos Aires"
You mean instead of the Golden Gate Bridge?
These Nude-Scenes show that even back then,
the Actors were deranged enough to do such
Shameless, unneeded Scenes, just like nowadays.
But no, nowadays people are just much more
desensitized and more stupid.
I mean, its just common practice to have them
for NO Reason, even if they feel incredible displaced.
Oh, i have seen some in situations where it
was so displaced it was like Batman running through
the Background in a Horror-Movie about Zombeavers.
Or to summarize all that: Sluts, male or female, all sluts.
Whoever does such scenes is a Loser by Default.
@@slevinchannel7589 Are you feeling okay?
exactly. the they aimed for earth yes but i doubt they meant to hit a specific town lol
@@octaldecimal2729 Makes me sad if i see people thinking Nude Scenes are natural and have to be in Movies.
@@slevinchannel7589 I thought we did away with comstockery after the Victorian era ended.
Didn't know they made a Helldiver's 2 movie. Crazy
During the Bonus Round, when Dizzy is like "J-J-J-J-J-Johnny", you REALLY should have stuttered the Ding, like "D-D-D-D-D-D-Ding", LOL!
I was also waiting on Short Circuit's "Johnny!" being includes, along with Karate Kid and whatever other cheesy movies come to mind.
That’s would’ve been hilarious!
or thrown up Adam Sandler's "t-t-t-t-t-today junior!" from Billy Madison
*Am I the only one that thinks Patrick Muldoon (Zander) looks like "Discount Rob Lowe?"*
Oh wow, he does too haha
Oh wow, he does too haha.
Word to yo mummaluvin' mumma !!! 👊😎🚬™
I cannot not think about it EVERY time he's on screen !!
When I was a kid I always thought it was Lowe
Zander is no one’s friend, if Zander were an ice cream flavour, he’d be pralines and dick.
While doing QA I will often say “this software has more bugs than starship troopers”
Stealing..... Thank you
Coming your way to steal dat meme!
Do you ever say, in a southern drawl, 'they've been chasin' bugs in this system ever since they installed it.' (Name the film.)
*grabs joke* "Mine now."
You did QA on GTA Trilogy?
The shower scene made sense to me, it's a society that has no use for ideas like personal privacy (also seen elsewhere, no one is ever alone), or anything personal for that matter, only the utility that the individual can render unto the state. It's simultaneously efficient hygiene and helpful in forming the closeness needed to go into combat together.
It's just a standard trope in fascist literature. That's the only reason it's in the movie. But despite this movie's commentary on fascism, it doesn't actually portray the kind of fascist state that would actually have co-ed showers. It wouldn't "help in forming the closeness needed to go into combat together." It would simply cause TONS of sexual assault... Much like the current military.
@@amityislandchum Based on a 2015 post on Defense.gov About 10,000 males are sexually assaulted each year vs roughly 8,000 females. With potentially more men being assaulted since men come forward less then women do. Also most Sexual assaults are same sex towards heterosexuals.
@@amityislandchum you should go back in time and explain that to the greek and romans for their battle brothers ideas and how they slept with each other. Clearly it worked for them for a very long time.
@@fierypandaofdoom Sacred band of Thebes was real, but was it like that for all others as well?
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Spartans, Athenians... essentially pre-christian world is pretty much a big orgy with anything they can find.
"I'm getting to old for this shit." Cliche. Adding a sin
The tattoo that said death from above was meant for the infantry since they were dropping in from above. They are the inspiration for the ODST's from the Halo games who were also known as hell jumpers.
Biggest thing wrong with this movie is that Johnny Rico is in love with Carmen instead of Diz i don't care if she's Denise Richards I'd still choose Diz every time.
I was 10 when this movie came out back then I still didn't understand why he chose Carmen over Dizzy. To this day I still think Dina Meyer is crazy hot and she's 50 now
Honestly, I think that Rico's love interest was portrayed accurately. He was " in love" with a woman that didn't really want him (typical for many of us men), and only found the woman that would have been best for him when it was just about too late.
Biggest problem with the movie is Dizzy not getting enough screen time in the shower scene or when her and Johnny hook up in the tent. Dina Meyers is so smoking hot.
When I clicked the 'like' button I heard the CinemaSins 'ding' in my head
That‘s because in the book, Dizzy is a dude. Who dies in the first chapter.
I love the "medic!!!" While the guys brains are laying on the ground.
"The Search for Dizzy" probably would have been a better sequel than the actual one was, though.
True, the second one wasn't great. #3 was better than #2 but not as good as #1. I enjoyed #4: Invasion quite a bit, and I have Traitor of Mars still unopened wrapped in plastic. Hm, perhaps I should watch that today.
@@Gaarafan007 I flat out disregard 2 and 3. Invasion was fun and so was Traitor of Mars. Go ahead and watch it, Dina Meyer reprises her role as Dizzy in it
@@VegetaLF7 Wait... DIZZY LIVED.
@@EijiTheRonin Watch the movie and you'll see. I don't want to give it away
@@VegetaLF7 I will hunt this movie down!!
I can’t believe they’ve never sinned “Mars Attacks”. * DING *
How this movie (and True Lies) has never been on anything after DVD is beyond me.
@@jimb.7523 true lies bluray was released 6 months ago you can find it in the movie site you use to download movies
@@jimb.7523 True Lies has been on TV lots of times. I just saw it was on yesterday. Sorry I can't remember what channel.
@@DannyJane. Noooo. I don't mean on TV. I meant on a media...form (i.e. VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray, 4K). I don't ever remember it being on anything more advanced than the DVD. Surya above says otherwise, but not once have I seen a Blu-Ray of True Lies in stores since it originated.
Why must you sin Mars Attacks? Why must you assault that fine piece of cinema? Why can't we all just....get along?
"I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits."
That's two rules.
that explains his grades on math.
Everyone fights; no one quits. One thing can have multiples parts. It's like when people make one wish to be rich and famous.
@@MagusKain in your example, there’s an “and.” there is no ‘and’ or semicolon implied in the script or captions for the rules.
@@stormcloudsabound I 100% expected that to be the response. ^.~
Plagiarizing and paraphrasing/misquoting Ender's Game: Counting is not part of the rules. (We don't count so good).
I like how this is getting popular again because of Helldivers 2
"If Rico keeps getting promoted this quickly he's going to be Captain Kirk in one of the Kelvin Timeline films!"
Yes, it's almost like the Terran Federation is some sort of meritocracy or something.
I actually love this movie. Even Denise Richards awful acting, "I'm going to be a pilot." I dare you to not cringe at that scene.
It wasn't awful acting, the movie is satire on fascism and people who accept it without question, marching into the giant mincing machine with a smile on their face, she was playing the part perfectly.
@@Foxtrot369 does it freak you out af too that ppl would rather accept the "let's all get ourselves killed for the greater good" is a part of the actors bad acting rather than satire about totalitarism? I mean this thing came out when I was in my teens and the way folks in the film are expected to blindly follow orders and the 1:1 shiny happy people Media coverage of even the most gruesome deaths... Did strike me as kind of odd. My original sin seems to be being German 🤔
@@hschnabel3055
Nah, people can't see the irony in the movie because they've been brainwashed themselves. Just think about how radicalized people are in 2020 and how they laugh when any person that's a political opposite has a problem in their life.
@Molecule Mind The film is actually satire for both Fascism, a military state, and the propaganda used to control the people. It tries to show you it from the perspective of a civilian that doesn't realize they're being manipulated to believe what they are, which is why you don't see the actual leaders, and only see the military recruiters at best.
@Molecule Mind What exactly do you think fascism looks like from the inside? Have you seen pictures or footage of the _(non-Jewish)_ German public during the 1930s? They all seemed pretty happy and obedient, because they were oblivious to what was really happening and they didn't question their government's propaganda that everything was great and only going to get better.
Besides which, what else do you call the whole "Citizen" vs "Civilian" thing in the movie? Where Civilians can't vote, have to pay for education & aren't guaranteed a licence to have children. Whereas Citizens can vote, get free education and have priority licenses to have children. And the only way to become a Citizen is to work for the Federation, military, teaching or test subject. What else is that other than fascism?
Starship Troopers is the best movie ever. It has EVERYTHING.
Badass lines, violence, explosions, love, intrigue, mystery, naked chicks, Casper Van Dien being handsome (with a butt shot), a coed shower scene, NPH, a Busey, Michael Ironside being badass, arena football, brain bugs, the game changing flip six three hole, and laser tag. What more could one ask for?!
Reminds me of stephon on SNL.They got everything....
Reebok light up sneakers. They light up the night.
You also forgot to add: cool futuristic click bait websites.
Power armor, orbital insertions, hand flamers...
More black people. I wanted more black people. Other than that, was a great movie. One of those things that actually helped usher me into joining USMC
Everything wrong with ROMPER STOMPER... I Dare him...
I've always assumed the bugs didn't target Buenos Aires but just Earth, and it just so happened to flatten the city Rico was from. Kinda like carpet bombing before we invented laser-guided bombs.
The ability to launch a meteorite ACROSS AN ENTIRE GALAXY to hit a planet would require a nearly godlike technology and precision
@@VicariousReality7 Right. There is a theory that the humans let it happen or caused it to justify the war. Isn't like that hasn't happened before.
It is pretty strongly implied that the humans were the ones who launched the asteroid at Earth so they could droll up some nationalist anti bug sentiment and get the Earth government to agree to attack Klendathu. There is no way that the bugs could have managed to even hit our solar system let alone Earth from the other end of the galaxy. And if that asteroid was traveling at less than light speed it would have taken thousands of years to arrive in our solar system.
@@VicariousReality7
*"The ability to launch a meteorite ACROSS AN ENTIRE GALAXY to hit a planet would require a nearly godlike technology and precision"*
Not only that.
Considering that asteroids only move at a tiny fraction of the speed of light, this asteroid would take millions upon millions of years to hit Earth.
Due to the low speed and star density, the boulder would likely be captured by some star rather than make it through to Earth.
Even if these bugs could bring this asteroid up to the speed of light and maintain the speed the whole way, it would still take tens of thousands of years and the release of energy at the speed of light upon impact with the Earth would have destroyed not only the city but the entire planet.
Assuming the boulder was from the Oort cloud or one of the asteroid belts, the question still remains as to why space surveillance could have missed the bugs operating in such proximity.
How do bugs actually move through space?
But another completely different logic error:
If this asteroid has been traveling for thousands or millions of years, then the bugs must have sent it off all that time ago.
Why should they do this?
At that time, people were still relatively primitive creatures without space travel and no one knew anything about the other.
Consequently, they were not at war with each other and had no reason to send the asteroid.
100% a false flag operation @@patrickrada2923
"Has there ever been a firm, fair, and/or pleasant drill instructor in cinematic history?"
Dude, has there ever been one in actual history? Because I had several, and they were all dickwipes, acting *exactly* like the Full Metal Jacket one did.
I don't wanna be mean but I"m pretty sure the US is the only country that consistently has such "evil" drill instructors
@@julesdebeckker627 I'm Russian, and served in the Russian nuclear forces. And from everything I can gather, they've been this way for centuries. At the very least they were the same in the Imperial army in early 20th century.
So it's definitely not just the US.
I was thinking the same thing... My DS were all assholes
Even more specifically, the guy in Full Metal Jacket was an actual drill instructor, who was playing the role exactly the way he actually did it. There is a very specific psychological reason why they do this, it is intended to complete upend the trainees life, and integrate them into a new culture as fast as possible. And also build a shared bond among the platoon by everyone hating/fearing the drill sergeant.
There has and his name was Khalid Ibn Walid
"If Rico keeps being promoted this fast, by the end of this movie he's going to be Jesus"
I would like to formally start a petition to introduce a new rank into the military.
I'm pretty sure that "to you, I'm Jesus" is a fairly typical line from a senior NCO's motivational rant.
He did get to general.
Every nco already thinks that they’re Jesus soooo....
Pine Kirk still holds the record though.
To be fair to Verhoeven, though, Rico's rapid promotion in the movie is part of the satire. The joke there is that the lives of the soldiers, supposedly the honored as "citizens", mean nothing. Rico gets promoted simply because so many people died, and he's too dumb to realize it.
I mean... Rico made it a Lieutenant pretty fast. Nobody mentioned the fact that during that same time, Carl made it a Colonel and was there to _casually_ promote him to the job.
I mean, previous Lt literally died hours prior and they're doesn't seem to be any sergeants on hand.
In the book Carl dies on a research station.
RIght. This is way ol boy is the superior to Denise Richard's character so fast. These guys had at least 8 weeks of boot camp... and this doens't include Advanced Training. Alot of death happened between then.
Carl was also shown to have developed the ability to mind control his fellow humans so Carl's rapid advancement isn't that implausible.
How do you not sin their use of Mazzy Star's "Fade Into You" as background music during the Rico/Zander fight scene? That remains one of the strangest decisions in cinematic history.
Absolutely not. That shit is S+ tier decision. Great Song. Great Scene.
@@joeygallina3714 Totally agree it's a great song AND a great scene, just not great together. It's such a jarring thing to hear playing behind a fight scene. But to each their own. Still a fantastic movie!
you missed one: "Hank from Breaking Bad isn't making an off-color joke in this scene."
that’s exactly what i thought.
Also: "Captain of the Roger Young isn't wearing a bra for a top in this scene."
The fact that SO MANY people who watched it didn't notice the in-your-face satire, and just wrote it off as a "bad sci fi movie" says so much...
Main issue i have is that it is so SO far off on what the books were like.
I think it may be both.
Actually everyone noticed the satire. The issue was never with that. The difference now is that people just appreciate the satire more and think it's a stroke of genius, where at the time we just didn't really care. But there is a difference between not noticing and not caring.
Crazy thing is it works well as satire and as a pretty good action movie. Can't believe it's not more loved. It's a gem.
@@Chromedbustop No, people genuinely did not grasp that it was satire then.
The irony of this war movie is that it's the most piss planned war campaign in movie history.
Soldiers and mobile infantry are thrown at an enemy they don't know or never trained to fight.
Yet shockingly accurate to the asymmetrical wars the US has been fighting since Vietnam.
@@100nitrog2 Ha! Try nearly all of them. I think the Mexican War is the only one there was any coherent plan for. Independence War the US had no real infrastructure (understandable, in that case), but they had made little improvement by the War of 1812 -- and lost because of it. Civil War lacked any real strategy until 1864 and in World War I the US learned nothing from watching Europe fight a trench war for years. World War II the US spent years running in circles in Africa before finally coming up with a plan to invade Europe and Korea... Oh, boy, Korea was basically just Vietnam-lite.
@@seprithlicastia463 Yeah, but at least the tactics in the more recent wars weren’t just throw a bunch of soldiers at the enemy with no air support, bombing runs, vehicle support, squad weapons, or reinforcements.
@@cutler_beckett That is... sadly true, yeah.
@@seprithlicastia463 Korea was the opposite of vietnam- more like World War One.
You missed the cut over her eye moving. To be fair, this is my favorite movie and its the first time i noticed it
"At this point in their training, why are they not learning how to kill Bugs? That's exactly why they're here." No, they aren't. The initial scenes of the movie were the present day, then it goes back in time, hence why we see the exact same reporter and the same action later when they invade Klendathu. The humans were not at war with the bugs until the bugs attacked Earth via the giant asteroid that destroyed Buenos Aires. If you listen to the news clips in the movie it is postulated that the bugs attacked because of the humans invasion into their territory. So at the point in the movie you are talking about there is no war and they would have no reason to learn to fight Bugs.
I find it amazing how people have a hard time seeing that the bugs were clearly the aggressors
@@vladimirdragonov asteroid was a part of the propaganda. How would bugs launch it across the whole galaxy?
@@Karl666Smith they can launch plasmas balls powerfully enough to take out starships and colonize other planets, they probably figured out how to weaponize an asteroid especially since the movie states the bugs continue to send them but the federation has defenses against them after the first one
@Rustie Cuffordson no it wasn't
@Rustie Cuffordson the bugs manage to colonize other planets regardless, this a movie where psychics are real, space bugs figuring out how to weaponize an astreidiod is not far off
Especially when they can hijack and control weapon systems of star ships in later movies
Nearly a minute into the video, and you still haven't sinned the first, most important, most relevant, and BIGGEST sin of this movie:
NO POWERED ARMOR.
You are out of uniform soldier, where is your power armor?!
Powered armor would have put the movie budget into the billions in 1997
@@rafaelneumann8365 No it wouldn't have, not in 97. Hell, the Video Toaster was becoming dated technology by 97.
And, don't make the movie if you can't have powered armor. That would be like making Iron Man without powered armor.
@@rafaelneumann8365 Then this movie should have been postponed. Apparently in the book they have some kind of mech armor. The lack of it and the failure in just bombarding the bug planet with the asteroids surrounding it totally took me out of the movie.
No no, the first, most important, most relevant, and biggest sin of this movie is them letting Paul Trashoeven direct it.
I love this movie it’s all nostalgia but damn THE ONLY GOOD BUG IS A DEAD BUG
That goes TRIPLE for mosquitoes!
Lifts girls dress.
Me: you got a bug problem ma'am?
Says propaganda won't work today "hell divers II would like to argue"
"Holy s*hit, if Rico keeps being promoted this fast, by the end of the movie he's gonna be Jesus." I died laughing on this one lol.
3:56 - it's explained in the film already that citizenship (and rights like voting or having children) is not just given, you need to earn it through service to the Federation - hence people joining the army as citizenship is guaranteed. It's highly likely that given the UCF was formed after a revolt led by intellectuals, going to Harvard (or equivalent) and then joining some part of government service would be a cushy (and safe) way to citizenship hence Rico's parent's demand.
It was explained that the Intellectuals *failed* in their revolt because they lacked a moral science, which in turn is what allowed the veterans' governance to remain stable.
The reason Rico's parents does not wish him to join is that most people are not Citizens but Civilians, free to do most things not directly involving governance, and joining the service carries an obvious risk of bodily harm.
In their eyes, there is simply no advantage to sign up (politics are bollocks regardless) while there are some definite cons in time lost and risks taken.
In the beginning of the NOVEL, from which this movie derives, it's explained that this is a Post-WW3 society, rebuilt by Veterans.
@@mister-v-3086This is CinemaSins, the book doesn't matter.
Johnny being the bonus round was a surprise. I thought it'd be how many times Denise Richards smiled
Was Tommy Wiseau the dialogue consultant for this movie?
Or Dizzy gets dizzy over Johnny's johnny
She only smiled once. Just for the entire film.
You missed the part when Carmen was impaled through the back by a bug limb half the diameter of her torso, and yet after that was literally running, shooting, and being otherwise completely unaffected 😂
Yeah, that part is still nagging me to this day. "Stands up and moves the arm/joint around like it is nothing" whilst in reality it would be limp as heck..
Not to mention bleeding out in about 2 to 3 minutes. That Spike was HUGE!
Has there ever been a fair firm or pleasant drill sergeant
Major Payne: Heh Heh Heh
Sen-si-tive!
*"Killin' is my business, and business is good !!"*
😂😂😂😭
My thoughts exactly! 😂
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Given the number of people who didn't realize this was satire, should probably remove the sin for the satire being too blunt.
The creators forgot that audiences are dumb, they even got people to join the army because of this movie.
Paul Veerhoven got approached by the illuminati.
Verhoeven also directed Robocop, and you can see many similarities with the political satire, distopian militaristic society, and over the top gore. Robocop also incorporated a bit of propaganda like they do in Starship Troopers, but with commercials about war-themed toys and unabashed consumerism, as well as outrageous news briefs on tv rather than the "Would you like to know more?" segments. OCP and the Federal Alliance had similarities, and villains like Clarence Boddiger, his gang of thugs, Dick Jones, and ED-209 were represented by the bugs. Both great movies. But still the best scene in movie history is when Boddiger's henchman Emil crashes into the vat of toxic waste and gets run over and splattered.
This is a great comment bro, thx u for the info =)
And co-ed showers!
Likewise, people didn't grasp the satire in Robocop. Many *still* don't... They just think an actual Robocop would be super cool.
Yeah, many don't see the "being human is about our behavior and values, not a 'meat vs. machine' matter", even after the sequel really spells the message to the audience in the final scene.
This movie was even better propaganda than Top Gun . One of the reasons why I love this movie . Would you like to know more ?
You missed a great opportunity to throw in "Oh hi Mark at the end" from The Room at the end.
6:24 A bit out with your blurring there pal.
Nice!👌
6:26 center screen low is better.
Imagine thinking that our bodies are bad/shameful in someway. Insanity.
@@gomahklawm4446 only yours. That growth is gross and throbbing and I think it winked at me...
Wore out my VHS tape as a kid, now I’m wearing my ↩️10 sec button out. Guess I never learn.
As a kid growing up watching this, honestly one of the reasons I wanted to join the military
(Y'all saying I missed the point, I was a kid like 7-8 when first watched this)
Facts.
Same man
Quite the little fascist then? [Joke]
lol this movie was literally making fun of military and facism. Thats like reading Huck Finn and coming to the conclusion you want to be a slave owner.
You became a roughneck.
Heinlein is probably spinning in his grave, but I like this film as much as I like the book - a lot. For different reasons. The film is just a comic book adventure. (Puns intended.)
I feel the same. I watched the movie first, read the book years later. At first I was disappointed that they screwed up the adaptation. It had a few parts that were similar, but it's like Vaerhoeven stopped reading the book while they were in boot camp. And he did, apparently! But the movie is so lame, campy, and just FUN. The book is completely different, and has a very serious tone. I enjoy them both immensely. The sequels of the movie, not so much, although at least in ST3:Marauder they have power armor. The animated episodes were great too, and I'm glad Casper Van Dien has held on to the role of Rico all this time. Hell, if they did a reboot (one can hope!), hopefully he would be in it. Maybe not as Johnny (DING) though, too old now.
Man, now I want to go watch the movie AND read the book again..
The book is available on audiobook here on TH-cam
@@socmonki There was supposed to be a remake in the works that adheres closer to the books, skinnies, power armor, but I haven't heard anything about it in a while.
@@TresTrefusis that's what I heard. Man I hope it comes true.
This should have been a YT Short with 0 total sins! Just opening and credits saying perfection!
13:15 the OLDER generation are all missing limbs...the new generation has the tech to regrow the limbs. Its to show that this reality has been throwing lives away for generations.
I read "Everything Wrong With Starsh. ..." NOOOOOO there goes my childhood ... there was a momnent back then when this was the only VHS tape we had :D :D xD
Fun fact: that Drill Instructor at 5:30 is the guy who voices Mr. Krabs lmao. He is a great actor as well.
He's also the fucking Kurgan.
@@elstormo Holy shit you are right! That's badass lol
@@elstormo There can only be one.
Dude I just research him he also voices hank from Detroit become human.
Those ship monitor graphics are laughably antiquated even for 1997, they look like they're from a ZX Spectrum =D
Everything wrong with starship troopers in two words: The sequels.
Everything wrong with ROMPER STOMPER... I Dare him...
@Molecule Mind I agree with the trilogy, south park accurately stated how I feel about the fourth installment.
I Know!!! & why didn't they do something with The Skinnies??? They were the more important adversary in the book!
Well, at least the book is nothing like the movie. And a better love story than Twilight.
@@goldengryphon A pile of dog shit I've stepped in earlier today is a better love story than Twilight
6:33 *someone important decided "this sexist showering practice must end"*
i can attest that this might actually happen in the period between 2021 and 2029
I'm an advocate for private showering stalls.
Backpacker hostels in Amsterdam and several other Euro cities have coed showers and man, some of those euro gals just love showing it off!
Right after someone invents waterproof Tasers?
10:32 "Also, for an emergency announcement about an ongoing disaster, this sucker is REALLY well edited." Yeah, it's ALMOST like that Government had most of it ready to go and just had to insert a few key images.
you sound like a conspiracy nut!!
To be fair, governments and media outlets usually have multiple versions of a story prepared ahead of big events like this. Nixon had a speech ready for if Armstrong and Aldrin were stranded on the moon, Eisenhower had a speech ready for if the Normandy invasion failed, etc.
Edit - So for some reason I thought the original comment was talking about Klendathu, but my post still holds true with some tweaks. If you're a media company, and your government is at war with a race that can chuck space rocks at your planet, it makes sense to have a template for 'space rock hits populated area' and then fill in the blanks mad-lib style.
@@CathrineMacNiel not really. The government in this movie was a Fascist dictatorship that perpetuated propaganda to further the war. It'd be perfectly logical to think they prepared a video like that ahead of time.
The implication is that the destruction of Buenos Aires was a false flag attack - the Bugs spread via spores fired into space and don't have ships or space vehicles in order to send this asteroid.
The whole point is it's implied they had the footage PRIOR to the attack.
@@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez yes it is logical, maybe they even provoked the attack?
No including a single sin removal for this film is criminal
It would be fun to watch politicians have to fight an army of giant bugs for the right of running.
At 18, most politicians don't look too bad
It's why Heinlein wrote it in. You have to work for the state to have a say in it.
Since you guys here raise this question... I totally agree on "You have to work for the state to have a say in it" - however, if the whole humanity is ruled by military people, the world's gotta be a really ineffective and "you're the boss, I'm an idiot" style place to live in. "Work for the state" can and probably should focus on non-military stuff or at least have it in equal measure as other branches of state service.
I must be really fun at parties
@@glebbokhan9777 If i'm not mistaken, in the book itself was not just reserved for military.
@@dan_loup they say they'll find any job that you can physically do as long as you're mentally capable. The reason we see only soldiers is because it's about a war with the bugs.
“You Can’t Do That on Television” reference...love it!
It was pretty damn sweet, wasn't it ? 👊😎🚬™
"Zim" and he was "invading" the bug planet. Does that make him. . . wait for it. .. wait for it. . . Invader Zim?
I wonder how many people will get that? 😊
@@bigdad1211 heard of it, don't really know anything about it.
Return to the early 2000's with you preastoric emo dino.
@@bigburgerboi1 return to school so you can learn grammar and spelling.
"Hey Vegeta! Can we go the Bug Planet?"
"Yes Napa, if it'll get you to shut up for 5 minutes!"
"YAYYYYYYY!!!"
I’m doing my part!
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"I only have one rule: Everyone fights. No one quits."
Aren't that technically two rules?
Either they don't use conjunctions in the future or they forget how to count.
It's a conjoined sentence. Besides the point of language is to communicate. If you understood what he meant does it matter if what he said isn't 100% grammatically correct?
@@irontemplar6222 While you are correct, we are also watching an episode of "Everything wrong with..."
Yeah. It's a joke. Movie's full of them.
Nah, it‘s not a second rule. Its a clarification of the first. 😁
Johnny bonus round!! lol!
Also.. You forgot to mention the asteroid that struck earth was big enough to do an extinction event.
Also Also... they All believe that bugs are stupid. Yet they accept the fact that they can throw an asteroid accross the galaxy straight to earth with pin point accuracy.
And colonize multiple planets.
Obviously, reality works a bit differently there.
To be fair, ants colonise and monkeys throw shit at others. The scene in starship troopers was parodying news sites that are still relevant today, that marginalise and try to laugh at the truth.
If you should know anything about people, it's that they have an infinite capacity to hold contradictory ideas about reality without ever questioning it.
I've seen the movie several times, and a few things I'd like to point out.
The movie is satirical towards Fascist propaganda. Sure the bugs might be intelligent, but media, the government, everybody is telling them that the bugs are dumb. Anyone who speaks out against what the propaganda or government says is considered unpatriotic and horrible. It shows this through the random commercials throughout the film.
It's i.oed the bugs actually didn't send the asteroids to Earth (the humans had several ships that could shoot down these asteroids, and it was never shown the bugs had the ability to do so). It's more likely the humans attacked the area itself since a few people there were anti-military. They kill those people, use their deaths as propaganda, and boom now they have more support.
The movie is actually a lot smarter than people give it credit for, and there's much more if you really analyze it.
@@rpsyco There may be more if you read stuff into it that isn’t there. But the movie is based on an existing work of fiction in which the very same events happen, albeit for slightly different reasons. In the book there is no question that the Bugs are intelligent. They use weapons among other things. In the book the Bugs preemptively attack Buenos Aires as the Federation is completely unaware of them prior to that attack. The movie, for some reason, wants the Federation at the outset to presume the Bugs are unintelligent - then makes the Federation deducing, then confirming, the intelligence of the Bugs a primary plot point. Which reinforces the idea that the Federation in actual fact did not initially think the Bugs were intelligent.
Yes, they accept that the Bugs can throw an asteroid across the galaxy...because the Bugs can throw colonization parties across the galaxy. If the Bugs can launch colonies accurately enough across interstellar space to land them on planets orbiting far stars, they can launch a mere rock the same way with the same accuracy. There is literally no need to presume that the whole thing is some Federation-backed false flag operation.
In general, if you want to learn what was going on that a movie based on an adapted work doesn’t cover, you can look to the source material for answers. That should be your go-to option. It might take a bit of creativity to reconcile the two (depending on how much the two diverge), but if/when they can be reconciled I’d think that would be preferable to just inventing new answers that are irreconcilable with both.
5:33 - All *real* military drill instructors are also derivatives of R Lee Ermey from Full Metal Jacket. In fact, Ermey's drill instructor performance in Full Metal Jacket was toned down a bit for the movie.
I like that no character questions the actions of the state/military. It shows respect for the audience. It's an Easter egg that's there if you bother to notice it. If you don't, it's just a fun action movie and you kind of *are* a character. It's masterfully done.
-10 sins.
"This could be some sort of satirical statement, but I'm sinning it anyway" could apply to every sin in this video.
@@FlameOnTheBeat Many, many people.
Some of them have made videos critiquing this movie.
Boo hoo, your fascist dream society got ripped on.
Considering earlier he sinned it for how obvious the satire is he knows.
@@gomahklawm4446 Learn to read.
You might learn something.
I mean the actual book this was based on wasn't written as satire but the director went in another direction.
“I haven’t seen football this ridiculous since soccer”.
Australian Rules Football: "Hold my beer!"
Australian Rules Football: when there are more referees than most games have players
🤣🤣🤣
@@mustavogaia2655 Ha!!! They're actually called Umpires
Are you taking this piss, mate ??
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*AFL :* Where an entire field of 18 players a side wears less collective protective equipment than a single NFL player's left shoulder.
The only sin is no shower scene with Denise Richards.
Have you seen her lately?
@@chainsaw5211 She definitely has not aged well
Probably wasn‘t in the budget.
If you had to choose between CGI bugs (which btw where utterly incredible for the time), CGI power armor, or a Denise Richards shower scene, many people obviously, and unfortunately, make the wrong decision. 😉
OTOH, imagine the absolute cult status of that movie if it had had all three of those!
@@stefanhoppe9280 That is why the third Starship Troopers is so entertaining.
Who?
Im so glad for helldivers 2!