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I think Marc finished the Clone Wars finally and got in the mood. I remember him posting a question on Twitter a few months ago asking how to watch the Clone Wars as he was having difficulty getting through it because of the filler and minor episodes that were especially common in the early seasons.
In Legends, those ships faced much more dignified end. They were send for conservation at the Deep Core and gifted away to Empire's allies and protectorates, like Corporate Sector. They were also used as flight academies. And after free-for-all war between Imperial warlords have begun, those venerable ships saw combat service again. Honestly, given how many of them were build, I wouldn't be surprised if they will become similar to Dreadnought - a staple of Mid- and Outer Rim fleets for generations to come.
Its likely that many did end up that way. The Empire was likely scraping many left and right but given that we have evidence from the Bad Batch of Venerators being refitted, shortly after the war means that there still was use for them and that its likely many were given to Imperial Allies and protectorates and flight schools. likely places where its use would be in keeping control of the smaller pirate presence or similar, while the Imperial Navy used Star Destroyers in its expansion imperial operations. Venerators likely could have been prized trophys for some leaders. The thousands of others likely ended up to scrap yards.
@@merafirewing6591 I imagine they would give them a treatment similar to what they did with the Assault Frigate, heavily automating the ship and maybe stripping some armor out of it
@@merafirewing6591 funny enough, Rebels almost never used Venators. Ironically, it had too big hangar space (something, like Quasar Fire- or Dauntless-class was realistically enough as mobile fighter base), it was too noticeable, too expensive to maintain. But I definately see well-equipped sector force taking one as a home base.
3 things I like about the Venator that come to my mind: 1) The way smaller aircraft take off/enter the ship. 2) Some of the ship's controls are in trenches on the bridge. 3) Paint job that stood out (during the Republic era)
Agreed. The Republic and Separatists have amazing looking paint jobs. I love how Republic ships have the Open Circle fleet symbol on them, while Separatist ships have the CIS emblem on them (Which looks like the wing of a TIE Fighter ironically).
The Venator was a jack of all trades (literal) spearhead. Equally flexible and efficient. The perfect combination of attributes to found a new navy. Somewhere between a carrier and a heavy cruiser, it could compensate for individual strength through numbers. Perhaps it’s for the best that the Venator’s legendary image was not too thoroughly tarnished by the Empire’s hubris, who squandered such an efficient design in exchange for excessive firepower.
The Venator is the jack of all trades Star Destroyer in Star Wars. The most venerable capital ship in the Clone Wars. If I was an Imperial Captain or Admiral I'd command a Venator over the Imperial. It's just that beautiful and legendary of a warship.
@@nielsmichiels1939 Why not more capable? Only Venators station in the Core Worlds had full complement of starfighters. Most Venators on campaign carry way less and used the space for supplies. imp got reasonable fighter complement but dedicated space for supplies without glaring weak points of Venator.
Hear me out: “Venator: A Star Wars Story” - a story about the lead ship of the Venator-class that survives the Clone Wars, serves as a training ship during the Empire before its crew defects to the Rebellion after Alderaan was destroyed, and becomes a new Rebel cell called “Venator Squadron” and have a story akin to that of the Battlestar Galactica.
This class is like the gold standard for balanced power projection spacecraft; she's not a specialist, but because she's not, if you are pressed for time and resources and cannot afford to wait to get craft out to war, this is exactly the sort of craft you would make. I mean, she can do orbital assault, invasion, ship killer, blockade work, cargo ship, and star fighter carrier... it's hard to think of something the class can't at least do, even if not perfectly. Honestly, I'd rather have to supply 4 of these to kill a Victory Class than take the hit in capability that using only the Victory would entail.
Didn't even realize how recently this posted. I have to say the aesthetic of TTI's videos with the visuals and tone of the voice is most synergistic on this platform. The lessons and representation from the Institute forever influence my Sci-Fi exploration and creative writing.
I see they refer to the Open Circle Fleets SPHA Weapon as a "Heavy Turbolaser", which I believe can be found in many sources and the SW Fanon wiki primarily. Odd choice.
@@romariowilson6254 The Venator is akin to a Super-Carrier, where the Imperial-Class is a "simple" Battleship. We saw how it ends... Fighter wings and bomber wings will save the day.
@Romario Wilson Yep, I would pick the Imperator I if it had ANY of the more advanced TIE models (Advanced, Defender, Upgraded TIE Interceptor) or was stuffed to brim with TIE Droids. The Imperator II is a non-option as it just removes the point defense of a ship design that was already anemic with point defense for more heavy cannons. And considering the IMPs II already outgunned anything that was NOT twice its size... just why.
@@nursestoylandbetter comparison is the sherman, good number and good quality. The T-34 meanwhile was akin to finishing attempted homework in class. You got something to field but don't expect it to last.
Venator were such gorgeous ships, ugh! Just might be my favorite in the Star Wars galaxy, after the Mandalorian "Kom'rk" ships of course. Plus, from a series design point they're a great halfway between the designs of the Republic and Empire eras.
As much as I hate “do it all” ships, it just looks so cool Can’t get over the weapons all being on the “top”, putting half on the “bottom” side would let you engage ships forward or at broadside just as well.
The Venator is a truly lovely design of a ship. It's wedge shape exudes power without being too aggressive and the redundancy of the two bridges is simple but effective. Plus, being primarily a carrier is something unique in the galaxy, far, far away. I would take a Venator over any of the other Star Destroyers every time. If the Empire had created a true successor to this ship, they would've definitely made the fight against the rebellion even tougher.
I think part of the immense charm the Venator has is that you can really see how it fits into a clear naval doctrine, one designed to counter a roughly equal peer, and seeing how it stacks against the Confederacy. The very rapid mobilization of the Republic’s military really lets you see compelling developments and responses in real time. Imperial era capitals , as iconic as they are, just seem like they’re big and scary for the sake of being big and scary. It’s really the perfect case study in comparison of the two eras in Star Wars, it’s really no wonder the Clone Wars is so popular.
I know it would be a logistical nightmare for them but I really wish the rebels used one or two of these in the cartoons. would of been amazing to see one of these go up against an ISD
Most people will agree that it's one of the best star ships in Star Wars if not the best. Speaking only about defensive weapons, it's certainly better than the first order dreadnought.
@@miguelteodoro5013that ship is a specialist ship and the first order is ran by idiots lol. The resurgence has so many point defense guns and star fighter wings there is no excuse that ONE X wing managed to destroy all the turrets on the ship they were supposed to be escorting. The resurgence is basically the most capable destroyer ever made and they used it horribly lol
I have seen a ton of comments regarding the debate between Venator vs. ISD, but I noticed there's not much talk about the core root of the change in design principles. The two ships were designed for two completely different conflicts. The Venator was designed to be effective at the most things it could be and was outclassed by other ships in almost every category, as the video mentions. It was for a Republic that was desperately trying to deploy a military at the last second, one that could cover all the roles a military needed at once to keep the industrial lines running smoothly. The ISD represents the transition into the Tarkin Doctrine, which opinions aside, was for a completely different scenario. The now Empire was looking to secure its new holdings. It had to maintain control. Control through fear, and the ISD was built to instill fear wherever it went, which it did unequivocally well. It also represents the core flaw of the Empire; Pride. The Empire was so proud of itself that it couldn't conceive of a possibility that they could be brought down. My personal opinion is that as a warship, the Venator is better because it brings more to the table and is easier to mass produce as supplies become more and more limited. But, we can't have this debate without understanding the root of the decisions to transition in design principles.
With the names at the end I'm reminded of a quote of a theory from a farmboy from Tatooine had about the Emperor's naming convention. Wedge was having a conversation with an Imperial Admiral in Starfighters of Adumar. And brought up a theory Luke had about the names like: Agonizer, Obliterator, and Executor. Basically that the Emperor wanted the people crewing them to know subconsciously they weren't doing good things. A small bit of corruption to start the slide. The names you presented were fine examples of the Old Republic's core beliefs. Very refreshing and well done!
If there was a way to reduce the crew intensity, I can see these functioning as a Rebel Fleet Carrier. Now not as a direct assualt but as a Mobile Base that can jump into an area close to Imperial targets. Have it's Rebel Starfighter jump from their position, hit they're target, jump back and land. The Venator jumps away while rearming the starfighters for another in a new sector. Now later down the Galactic Civil War when Mon Cal Cruiser join, they can take a more direct action, working along side Mon Cal Ships.
@@4str0m3ch I realise your comment is old but maybe the info isnt outdated. but i thought Hera had Home one as her flagship? or maybe thats after Jakku and i am just dumb xd
I admittedly have never watch the Clone Wars. Even though I call myself a Star Wars fan I just never watched it. I do have to say though, this is probably one of the most beautiful designed ships across any sci-fi medium. Enjoy seeing all these spacebattles on this video so I may have to break into the show and watch more of the cartoons
The mood of this video puts the venator in a better light than what I'm used to. However something in particular caught my attention, 9:20 is an interesting claim. Her hangers, bridges and engines are her real weaknesses and were exploited. I'd argue that in a way she if far better than the ISD. If anything updated designs of the venator would be better than designing an almost entirely new class. Perhaps a design that was a but larger, had updated hardware like engines, weapons, shields, Hull, construction techniques and other design features that make her more powerful, more efficient, better suited to future needs and eliminate the obvious weaknesses we all know about. The Liberation, captain shack's vessel is a perfect example. When serving with the rebellion they were able to forge her into still being an effective and bad arse vessel despite the rebellion operating very differently. New starfighters changer how she was used, her refits made her more powerful and far more capable at ship to ship combat. She even became efficient at killing ISD's. Which isn't difficult if we are being real. The venator's design should have been built off not replaced. However I guess she wouldn't do the one thing the empire or shall I say tarkin wanted.........fear. OK this comment is long enough I'm going to sleep.
A lot of Clone Wars episodes this week. Of all the Prequel-era capital ships, the Venator-class is the one I personally like the most. Like the clones that crewed them, it's a shame what became of the class during the Empire era. Perhaps a few managed to get into the hands of those who went on to restore the Republic.
While I love the imposing figure of the Imperial-I and II Star Destroyers, the Venator remains my favorite. It has such a sleek look that still radiates command and control.
Considering the Venator was rapidly designed and built under circumstances wherein the designers and rapidly assembled military leadership weren't sure of the type of war they will face and still excelling at it's role despite being designed to generally serve multiple roles without prior doctrinal motivations astonished me
At this point to me the breakdowns of the ships, weapons, and tactics as well as soldiers seems more entertaining than the actual shows that holds them.
The Imperator I and Victory I arrived and fought during the battle of Coruscant. The Imperator(native name of Imperial) was a republic era ship. So it's successor the Imperial II and Victory II were more rather down grades in every sense of the book. As the reliance of Star fighters was not what the imperials think a new war would have kept focusing on. So Many point defense, missiles and other anti star fighter capabilities were kept to a bare minimum or not present. The original goal was to have Imperators, victory's serve within fleets of the venators and be the heavy bulk of them. Sadly due to the republic demand for the venator it didn't occur till that late into the war.
A humble ship with outstanding power if the Empire would have kept these ships as carriers the Rebellion would have had double the trouble at least keep 50 of them
I like the dichotomy between the Imperal Star Destroyer and The Venator Cruiser. One is the ultimate battleship geared towards taking down enemy capital ships and destroying the surface of a planet. The other was the ultimate carrier with a vast and diverse complement of star fighters, fighter-bombers, interceptors, heavy fighters, and interceptors.
I once wrote a fan novella called "The Last Venator" - I really wish this video had existed before I wrote it, because I had to do all the research about its layout and capabilities beforehand. This vid would have saved me truckloads of time in the outlining stage.
Great video, i'm sad that you did not mention the victory class star destroyer, more focus on ship to ship combat, that was developpe during the clone war but was not much use
My favourites: 1. First order Resurgent class star destroyer/battle cruiser. 2. Venator class Star destroyer/attack cruiser 3. Tector class Star destroyer 4. Imperial I/II star destroyer
There is nothing batter then an Veator using its LAATs to drop you right where you were needed and have ATTEs land right next to you! I am a huge aviation fan and carriers even more so but the ability to strike THAT FAR with THAT MUCH power is something a ISD could only dream of achieving.
I love these things. They *look* like a Battleship, but not a later Vic or Imperial, but like something from WWII but in Space. Also the Vic replaced them because it was *just better* . Then the Imperial replaced *that* because it was *just better* .
My favourite ship in all of Star Wars. I’m not sure what it is about the Venator but I absolutely love it and I love that we’re seeing more of it in the Bad Batch.
I'm just imagining the CIS Fleet with Venators as their centerpiece. The sheer carrying capacity would allow for massive fighter wings combined with the more offensively armed separatists destroyers and frigates would make for a nearly unstoppable navy.
I thought the Imperial-class Star Destroyer was first revealed in the final months of the Clone Wars, been called the 'Imperator-class' during that time.
Honestly the dream task group would be a mutually supporting pair of one Imperial and one Venator. The Imperial tanks hits and dishes out gunfire at medium-close range, while the Venator stand off a bit back and sweep the skies with the air wing.
Some people say that our Twitter account is the Venator Class Star Destroyer of social media. Those people are insane because that makes no sense at all. But maybe follow us anyways, just in case there's an element of truth in there. twitter.com/TemplinEdu
Venator = good
Templin twitter = good
I don't know what you're talking about, makes sense to me.
@@traditional_anxiety2705 your logic is truly infallible
Have you considered getting on Mastodon?
HE NOTICED ME
@@blandedgear9704sus
We really are in a clone wars mood recently aren't we? Please keep it coming
Well the recent Bad Batch episodes put me in one.
I was thinking the same
Fuck I love clone troopers
I think Marc finished the Clone Wars finally and got in the mood. I remember him posting a question on Twitter a few months ago asking how to watch the Clone Wars as he was having difficulty getting through it because of the filler and minor episodes that were especially common in the early seasons.
@@Jawmax same here
In Legends, those ships faced much more dignified end. They were send for conservation at the Deep Core and gifted away to Empire's allies and protectorates, like Corporate Sector. They were also used as flight academies. And after free-for-all war between Imperial warlords have begun, those venerable ships saw combat service again. Honestly, given how many of them were build, I wouldn't be surprised if they will become similar to Dreadnought - a staple of Mid- and Outer Rim fleets for generations to come.
I really like the idea of it being like the dreadnought class ships. A relic but still dangerous and a reminder of the past.
Its likely that many did end up that way. The Empire was likely scraping many left and right but given that we have evidence from the Bad Batch of Venerators being refitted, shortly after the war means that there still was use for them and that its likely many were given to Imperial Allies and protectorates and flight schools. likely places where its use would be in keeping control of the smaller pirate presence or similar, while the Imperial Navy used Star Destroyers in its expansion imperial operations. Venerators likely could have been prized trophys for some leaders. The thousands of others likely ended up to scrap yards.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent imagine being a rebel cell with the Manpower to steal a Venator out of the scrap yard.
@@merafirewing6591 I imagine they would give them a treatment similar to what they did with the Assault Frigate, heavily automating the ship and maybe stripping some armor out of it
@@merafirewing6591 funny enough, Rebels almost never used Venators. Ironically, it had too big hangar space (something, like Quasar Fire- or Dauntless-class was realistically enough as mobile fighter base), it was too noticeable, too expensive to maintain. But I definately see well-equipped sector force taking one as a home base.
The Venator is the peak of the Star Wars esthetic. It is such a magnificient ship that is also quite utilitarian.
It’s my favourite ship in all of Star Wars because of its design. It’s an elegant ship for a more… civilised age.
@@secla_SC General Kenobi would agree XD
Its not utilitarian because CIS did not like it
Bruh it looks like jar jar bink
3 things I like about the Venator that come to my mind:
1) The way smaller aircraft take off/enter the ship.
2) Some of the ship's controls are in trenches on the bridge.
3) Paint job that stood out (during the Republic era)
Hey you in a discord I'm in
@@residentidiocracy7342 which one?
@@DragonActual Covie Canon
Agreed. The Republic and Separatists have amazing looking paint jobs. I love how Republic ships have the Open Circle fleet symbol on them, while Separatist ships have the CIS emblem on them (Which looks like the wing of a TIE Fighter ironically).
The red on the republic’s vessels symbolize their diplomatic immunity. The blue on the CIS represents their call for “No Quarter”.
Truly one of the finest warships the galaxy has ever seen, a reflection of not only the Republic but also the Grand Army and the Clone Wars
“ An elegant weapon for a more civilized time “ I know that’s from the lightsaber but I thought that it Can also resemble the Venator
@@mastershan196 I always think about that when seeing the Scene *-*
didn't it just gettin broken into and burglerd by four clones?
@@thalanoth Star Wars ships get broken into all the time 😂
@@dr.boring7022 never let your sensitive hole be exposed
"Don't be ridiculous Lieutenant. Why would we want guns on the bottom? No one ever attacks the bottom of a ship." - Dead Star Destroyer Captain
hahahaha
Those closing lines, man….. chills
"The Republic never had its own navy until the Clone Wars. It always depended on the home fleets to supply what was necessary." - Jan Dodonna
The finest Warship the republic ever constructed.
Long live the Liberation and her crew!
Sad that you can no longer build them in your current campaign
The Venator was a jack of all trades (literal) spearhead. Equally flexible and efficient. The perfect combination of attributes to found a new navy. Somewhere between a carrier and a heavy cruiser, it could compensate for individual strength through numbers. Perhaps it’s for the best that the Venator’s legendary image was not too thoroughly tarnished by the Empire’s hubris, who squandered such an efficient design in exchange for excessive firepower.
Such a beautiful ship.
One of my favorite ships from Star Wars. I love it way more than the Imperial Star Destroyer
Same
The Venator is the jack of all trades Star Destroyer in Star Wars. The most venerable capital ship in the Clone Wars. If I was an Imperial Captain or Admiral I'd command a Venator over the Imperial. It's just that beautiful and legendary of a warship.
Why? The Venator was obsolete by the end of the Clone Wars. The Imperial-Class is by and far a more capable capital ship.
Just launch your fighter wing and chill in the back. Or knowing if you had to engage you can add a SPHA cannon to your ship lol
@@jackspartangaming
More powerfull?
Yes.
Bigger?
Yes.
More capable?
No.
@@nielsmichiels1939
Why not more capable?
Only Venators station in the Core Worlds had full complement of starfighters. Most Venators on campaign carry way less and used the space for supplies.
imp got reasonable fighter complement but dedicated space for supplies without glaring weak points of Venator.
@@jackspartangaming It was obsolete because there was no near peer enemy to assault the planets of.
Hear me out: “Venator: A Star Wars Story” - a story about the lead ship of the Venator-class that survives the Clone Wars, serves as a training ship during the Empire before its crew defects to the Rebellion after Alderaan was destroyed, and becomes a new Rebel cell called “Venator Squadron” and have a story akin to that of the Battlestar Galactica.
I, for one, would like to watch this.
I wish this was made
This. Please
Rebel Venators as a concept are too cool. The Rebels using a symbol of the Republic is underutilized
You could do a Kota Commando's story and it would fall along more or less the same lines.
This class is like the gold standard for balanced power projection spacecraft; she's not a specialist, but because she's not, if you are pressed for time and resources and cannot afford to wait to get craft out to war, this is exactly the sort of craft you would make.
I mean, she can do orbital assault, invasion, ship killer, blockade work, cargo ship, and star fighter carrier... it's hard to think of something the class can't at least do, even if not perfectly.
Honestly, I'd rather have to supply 4 of these to kill a Victory Class than take the hit in capability that using only the Victory would entail.
The vehicles and ships of the Republic are truly amazing!
Didn't even realize how recently this posted.
I have to say the aesthetic of TTI's videos with the visuals and tone of the voice is most synergistic on this platform.
The lessons and representation from the Institute forever influence my Sci-Fi exploration and creative writing.
I see they refer to the Open Circle Fleets SPHA Weapon as a "Heavy Turbolaser", which I believe can be found in many sources and the SW Fanon wiki primarily. Odd choice.
I’d have a venator over an imperial class star destroyer any day.
I agree, but it's superiority would mostly come from it's hangar bays if it needs to face an imperial star destroyer.
@@romariowilson6254 The Venator is akin to a Super-Carrier, where the Imperial-Class is a "simple" Battleship. We saw how it ends... Fighter wings and bomber wings will save the day.
@@haeffound yep.
@Romario Wilson Yep, I would pick the Imperator I if it had ANY of the more advanced TIE models (Advanced, Defender, Upgraded TIE Interceptor) or was stuffed to brim with TIE Droids.
The Imperator II is a non-option as it just removes the point defense of a ship design that was already anemic with point defense for more heavy cannons. And considering the IMPs II already outgunned anything that was NOT twice its size... just why.
Still was a shit design
Ahh the Venator. A ship that could do just about anything decently enough.
The T-34 of Star Wars.
The T-34 was dogshit. I think you mean the Sherman
@@thegreyghost5846I think he means the amount of Venators that were built
@@nursestoylandbetter comparison is the sherman, good number and good quality.
The T-34 meanwhile was akin to finishing attempted homework in class. You got something to field but don't expect it to last.
The Venator will always be my favourite Star Wars ship, and it deserves all the love it gets and more
Venator were such gorgeous ships, ugh! Just might be my favorite in the Star Wars galaxy, after the Mandalorian "Kom'rk" ships of course. Plus, from a series design point they're a great halfway between the designs of the Republic and Empire eras.
“Ah, the Negotiator”
As much as I hate “do it all” ships, it just looks so cool
Can’t get over the weapons all being on the “top”, putting half on the “bottom” side would let you engage ships forward or at broadside just as well.
The Venator is a truly lovely design of a ship. It's wedge shape exudes power without being too aggressive and the redundancy of the two bridges is simple but effective. Plus, being primarily a carrier is something unique in the galaxy, far, far away. I would take a Venator over any of the other Star Destroyers every time. If the Empire had created a true successor to this ship, they would've definitely made the fight against the rebellion even tougher.
Nice Very Informative. I hate that we didn’t see much of these ships during the imperial era
blame the jedi for making the reputation of the venator to be "jedi cruisers"
12:01 Those last sentences brought a tear to my eye. Well done
I think part of the immense charm the Venator has is that you can really see how it fits into a clear naval doctrine, one designed to counter a roughly equal peer, and seeing how it stacks against the Confederacy. The very rapid mobilization of the Republic’s military really lets you see compelling developments and responses in real time. Imperial era capitals , as iconic as they are, just seem like they’re big and scary for the sake of being big and scary. It’s really the perfect case study in comparison of the two eras in Star Wars, it’s really no wonder the Clone Wars is so popular.
I know it would be a logistical nightmare for them but I really wish the rebels used one or two of these in the cartoons. would of been amazing to see one of these go up against an ISD
Great now I want a Star Wars game where you're part of a pirate band that operates out of a Venator during the early imperial era.
Best Capital Ship in Star Wars, fight me
Most people will agree that it's one of the best star ships in Star Wars if not the best. Speaking only about defensive weapons, it's certainly better than the first order dreadnought.
Best Capital ship in all Fiction
To me, it's second only to the Lucrehulk
Providence class dreadnought
@@miguelteodoro5013that ship is a specialist ship and the first order is ran by idiots lol. The resurgence has so many point defense guns and star fighter wings there is no excuse that ONE X wing managed to destroy all the turrets on the ship they were supposed to be escorting. The resurgence is basically the most capable destroyer ever made and they used it horribly lol
I have seen a ton of comments regarding the debate between Venator vs. ISD, but I noticed there's not much talk about the core root of the change in design principles.
The two ships were designed for two completely different conflicts. The Venator was designed to be effective at the most things it could be and was outclassed by other ships in almost every category, as the video mentions. It was for a Republic that was desperately trying to deploy a military at the last second, one that could cover all the roles a military needed at once to keep the industrial lines running smoothly.
The ISD represents the transition into the Tarkin Doctrine, which opinions aside, was for a completely different scenario. The now Empire was looking to secure its new holdings. It had to maintain control. Control through fear, and the ISD was built to instill fear wherever it went, which it did unequivocally well. It also represents the core flaw of the Empire; Pride. The Empire was so proud of itself that it couldn't conceive of a possibility that they could be brought down.
My personal opinion is that as a warship, the Venator is better because it brings more to the table and is easier to mass produce as supplies become more and more limited. But, we can't have this debate without understanding the root of the decisions to transition in design principles.
The Venator is a very all-rounder capital ship and I love it!
This and the Harrower class are my two favorites.
Both have large, visible Hangar bays.
@@biggsdarklighter0473and both are mainly carriers who usually should stay on the back
@Obsidian_Gargantuan_Leviathan Not true. The Harrower had an inferior air wing to the smaller Valor-class
@@Obsidian_Gargantuan_Leviathan Harrowers were no more carriers than ISDs were. Granted they had more fighters than an ISD.
Would ADORE a special on the Liberation-refit Venator! Probably hard to manage tho.
ong tho, probably the reason why the venator is my favorite ship
With the names at the end I'm reminded of a quote of a theory from a farmboy from Tatooine had about the Emperor's naming convention.
Wedge was having a conversation with an Imperial Admiral in Starfighters of Adumar. And brought up a theory Luke had about the names like: Agonizer, Obliterator, and Executor. Basically that the Emperor wanted the people crewing them to know subconsciously they weren't doing good things. A small bit of corruption to start the slide.
The names you presented were fine examples of the Old Republic's core beliefs. Very refreshing and well done!
If there was a way to reduce the crew intensity, I can see these functioning as a Rebel Fleet Carrier.
Now not as a direct assualt but as a Mobile Base that can jump into an area close to Imperial targets. Have it's Rebel Starfighter jump from their position, hit they're target, jump back and land. The Venator jumps away while rearming the starfighters for another in a new sector.
Now later down the Galactic Civil War when Mon Cal Cruiser join, they can take a more direct action, working along side Mon Cal Ships.
The rebels used Acclamators for sure. General Hera Syndulla had one as her flagship post-Endor.
@@4str0m3ch I realise your comment is old but maybe the info isnt outdated. but i thought Hera had Home one as her flagship? or maybe thats after Jakku and i am just dumb xd
The Venator is BY FAR my favorite science fiction starship
I swear the ending phrase on every single video always makes me feel something. Great job, keep up with the incredible content.
I admittedly have never watch the Clone Wars. Even though I call myself a Star Wars fan I just never watched it. I do have to say though, this is probably one of the most beautiful designed ships across any sci-fi medium.
Enjoy seeing all these spacebattles on this video so I may have to break into the show and watch more of the cartoons
Republic vehicles are beautiful Venator, LATT/I, AT-TE, ARC-170, Arquiten. All awesome.
The mood of this video puts the venator in a better light than what I'm used to. However something in particular caught my attention, 9:20 is an interesting claim. Her hangers, bridges and engines are her real weaknesses and were exploited. I'd argue that in a way she if far better than the ISD.
If anything updated designs of the venator would be better than designing an almost entirely new class.
Perhaps a design that was a but larger, had updated hardware like engines, weapons, shields, Hull, construction techniques and other design features that make her more powerful, more efficient, better suited to future needs and eliminate the obvious weaknesses we all know about.
The Liberation, captain shack's vessel is a perfect example. When serving with the rebellion they were able to forge her into still being an effective and bad arse vessel despite the rebellion operating very differently. New starfighters changer how she was used, her refits made her more powerful and far more capable at ship to ship combat. She even became efficient at killing ISD's. Which isn't difficult if we are being real.
The venator's design should have been built off not replaced. However I guess she wouldn't do the one thing the empire or shall I say tarkin wanted.........fear.
OK this comment is long enough I'm going to sleep.
If lego could just release a UCS version of this ship I'd be very happy.
My favorite vessel in the entirety of Star Wars, versatile and effective, thank you.
A lot of Clone Wars episodes this week.
Of all the Prequel-era capital ships, the Venator-class is the one I personally like the most.
Like the clones that crewed them, it's a shame what became of the class during the Empire era.
Perhaps a few managed to get into the hands of those who went on to restore the Republic.
I’m loving the recent GAR content, keep it coming.
While I love the imposing figure of the Imperial-I and II Star Destroyers, the Venator remains my favorite. It has such a sleek look that still radiates command and control.
The most elegant and beautiful star ship I’ve ever seen.
In The Clone Wars we don't always get a good feeling for the size and reason why a Venator had to be crewed by so many people
The Venator is probably my favorite capital ship class in the Star Wars canon. Loved this video.
Considering the Venator was rapidly designed and built under circumstances wherein the designers and rapidly assembled military leadership weren't sure of the type of war they will face and still excelling at it's role despite being designed to generally serve multiple roles without prior doctrinal motivations astonished me
At this point to me the breakdowns of the ships, weapons, and tactics as well as soldiers seems more entertaining than the actual shows that holds them.
The ship the empire should have never replaced
Props to whoever wrote the script that part after 12:00 is really good.
The prequels gave us some of the best looking Star Wars designs. The Venator is my favorite canon star destroyer
Favorite sci-fi ship. Glad you made a video about it.
In my opinion venator Class fits more as a carrier
The Sherman of the Republic Grand Fleet.
IMO one of if not the best Capital Ship in Star Wars 😍
I loved every scene where Venators where Shown in the Bad Batch S2
My absolute favorite Star wars capitol ship
The Imperator I and Victory I arrived and fought during the battle of Coruscant. The Imperator(native name of Imperial) was a republic era ship.
So it's successor the Imperial II and Victory II were more rather down grades in every sense of the book. As the reliance of Star fighters was not what the imperials think a new war would have kept focusing on. So Many point defense, missiles and other anti star fighter capabilities were kept to a bare minimum or not present.
The original goal was to have Imperators, victory's serve within fleets of the venators and be the heavy bulk of them. Sadly due to the republic demand for the venator it didn't occur till that late into the war.
A humble ship with outstanding power if the Empire would have kept these ships as carriers the Rebellion would have had double the trouble at least keep 50 of them
*Chefs kiss* my favorite star ship
A wonderful homage to a beloved ship. Stunning video!
Venators are pure unadulterated badass.
We definetly need a Video about the Chosen One: Anakin Skywalker. But all in all Good Work Guys.
Perhaps my favourite Star Wars Ship.
I like the dichotomy between the Imperal Star Destroyer and The Venator Cruiser.
One is the ultimate battleship geared towards taking down enemy capital ships and destroying the surface of a planet.
The other was the ultimate carrier with a vast and diverse complement of star fighters, fighter-bombers, interceptors, heavy fighters, and interceptors.
Upon sighting a post about the Venator Class Star Destroyer, I naturally clicked on the video. That's my style sir.
'Tis a melancholy thing seeing those grand defenders of the Republic resting on the scrap heap.
Probably my favorite star wars ship ever
I like a starship that is the mix of an venator, imperial and resurgent star destroyer
venator is so cool looking holy crap. i love triangular ships but add in the rear wings and its perfection
Nice work on the Venator class Star Destroyer i rather have these Venators in my fleet to serve as carriers
I once wrote a fan novella called "The Last Venator" - I really wish this video had existed before I wrote it, because I had to do all the research about its layout and capabilities beforehand. This vid would have saved me truckloads of time in the outlining stage.
Great video, i'm sad that you did not mention the victory class star destroyer, more focus on ship to ship combat, that was developpe during the clone war but was not much use
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“we have Spacedock at home”
Spacedock at home:
My favourites:
1. First order Resurgent class star destroyer/battle cruiser.
2. Venator class Star destroyer/attack cruiser
3. Tector class Star destroyer
4. Imperial I/II star destroyer
There is nothing batter then an Veator using its LAATs to drop you right where you were needed and have ATTEs land right next to you! I am a huge aviation fan and carriers even more so but the ability to strike THAT FAR with THAT MUCH power is something a ISD could only dream of achieving.
I love these things.
They *look* like a Battleship, but not a later Vic or Imperial, but like something from WWII but in Space.
Also the Vic replaced them because it was *just better* . Then the Imperial replaced *that* because it was *just better* .
THE GREATEST STAR DESTROYER OF ALL STAR WARS LORE
My ideal fleet is three Imperial class 4 Venitor class 2 raider class and a handful of arquitens and interdictors.
My favourite ship in all of Star Wars. I’m not sure what it is about the Venator but I absolutely love it and I love that we’re seeing more of it in the Bad Batch.
Two Republic lore videos in a row? I like where this is going
VERY interesting vidéo, i really appreciate these vidéos, could you do it on the aquelus class ?
I'm just imagining the CIS Fleet with Venators as their centerpiece. The sheer carrying capacity would allow for massive fighter wings combined with the more offensively armed separatists destroyers and frigates would make for a nearly unstoppable navy.
Now I want to see one about the Eclipse-class Super Star Destroyer from Star Wars Legends.
It is easy to see why the Venator has become such a fan favorite.
I believe the Venators successor would be the Victory class Star Destroyer. Then, the Imperial class.
The Victory was designed as a supplement to the Venator.
Good timing as Lego has just released the UCS Venator, a massive 5,374 pieces. 👍
One of my most favorite ships of all time right next to the lucrehulk batteship...
The dorsal side is where the main hangar doors are. Underneath is the ventral side.
I thought the Imperial-class Star Destroyer was first revealed in the final months of the Clone Wars, been called the 'Imperator-class' during that time.
I love the Venator, easily my favourite Star Wars ship.
This is one of my favorite star war ships I even had a wooden homage model of it
8:44 I've never noticed there was a Venator in the background of this scene
Huh. That explains the map in battlefront 2 where you fight inside a landed venator on the last sector.
Honestly the dream task group would be a mutually supporting pair of one Imperial and one Venator. The Imperial tanks hits and dishes out gunfire at medium-close range, while the Venator stand off a bit back and sweep the skies with the air wing.
One of my favorite Star Wars capital ships!
Oh no. At 1:57 it looks like Jar Jar Binx. I can never unsee this now.
Nothing crashes Better than a Venator ..