It’s not just Minecraft it’s EVERYTHING. People are blinded by nostalgia like Roblox, memes, and etc. I swear I we are starting to sound like a old man saying “Back in my day”
Exactly bro, you could name so many topics and individuals in each category and you'd be right. I swear most people are blinded by nostalgia and think they're childhood is better than everyone else's that isn't the same or close to there's. I know this because I'm related to multiple people that think like that and I have multiple friends that also think like that, and with the internet it's just everywhere
The Roblox argument is valid though. Greed took over it, and many bad things are happening in it. Toxicity, and well... Companies hiring teenagers, sometimes illegally. I'm talking about the platform in general, not some games. New roblox games aren't necessarily bad. It's not the games, it's the platform. One thing roblox did right is reducing exploiting to a certain extent.
I started when powered rails were powered on their own and honestly those old sucks to play in (my opinion) I tried playing the game in every major release a few months ago cuz of the multiple vids suggested to me about this whole old mc better new mc sucks thing. I still prefer the latest release.
I left minecraft because it wasnt my cup of tea anymore, I became more motivated to do other things rather than spend all my time on minecraft Its not that deep
Same thing. I love Minecraft but i just changed interests. Thats it. Nothing else. Leaving Minecraft got me into other games like lfd2, Elden ring and armored core 6. Ill2 miss Minecraft but leaving it led me to new interests.
This to me is exactly what has gone way too far in the pokemon community. I think if it gets to the point many people want to actively regress the games to what it was back then, it is too far, this is happening with lots of pokemon fans
Sipover on his way to act like he discovered how to make a nether portal on his own when they were first added and definitely not from friends or a youtube tutorial:
What’s crazy about the whole old vs new argument to me is that you can still easily and officially go back and play any major release of Minecraft at any time. 2010-2011 Minecraft isn’t some lost version, it’s very much accessible and likely always will be. There are also mods out there that turn newer Minecraft into a modern day recreation of the old versions.
the golden age minecraft community is huge and they do exactly what you say, you just can't stand hearing your game be criticized because you made it a part of your identity
the older versions are right there! nostalgictweaks is right there for modern versions! i can assure you there's even more mods and resource packs that make minecraft function like the older versions
I agree with this completely. His video was quite biased, and obviously Minecraft is very dependent on the player's choices. Honestly, I think the newer version is better because: 1, it LITERALLY gives an expansion on the game each update (like as said in this video), so there's more things. 2, if I ever want an old feel for the game without switching versions entirely, all I need is a few texture packs that give the game a look similar to the older version of the game, and it's that simple. All the points made in this video, I completely agree with. You spat straight up facts man 👍
Thank you and to your points, I agree 100%. The game never takes anything away from the old versions. But I think the main issue is that he's nostalgic for the first few times he played the game because based on the experience he was describing and wanting, it's something you gain from playing the game for the first time ever.
Agreed especially on the updates, I have a lot of memories with old Minecraft, but one is the disasterous 1.10 update. Well not disasterous, but adding a few new blocks and mobs is very disappointing compared to what people expected from the milestone of 1.10. I’m glad Minecraft puts more stuff into their updates now.
@@Chilled_Blue As someone who played 1.2 all the way back, I love all the big updates it gets. Sure, I have some issues with policies (like the now thankfully defunct Mob Vote), but the game itself just keeps on cooking. Who knows, we may get some of the lost mob vote mobs back.
As a kid with a bunch of random lego pieces I made a little town inhabited by robots, each with some kind of job, except Windshield Wiper Bot, all he does is wipe his own windshield.
I remember taking 1 by 2 bricks, and mashing it on random Lego Minifig heads because I had a very limited amount of Minecraft sets 😭 Just wanted to share that.
I'm pretty sure Sipover's main point is "I'm bad at building, let's go back to a time where everyone sucked at building!" He's the type of guy to say that everyone should go back to MS Paint because everyone's bad at MS Paint! Or make everyone only build with 2x2 Lego pieces. This would be fine if it was a video about perfectionism ruining motivation - I think that would be a great video topic relating to Minecraft, actually - but it's not. It's a nostalgia bait video, and it makes him look kinda pathetic, blaming the game for his lack of building skill. Anyhoo, if you are struggling with an overwhelming block pallete, try selcting a block for the main colour, and an accent colour. Think Oak and Cobblestone, or Cherry and Copper. Colour theory can help here too.
Dude, I would soooo watch a video about perfectionism ruining motivation, that's a problem I often struggle with. I wish I could go back to the mindset I had when playing older Minecraft where I didn't care how good something looked and I just built for the fun of it. An argument could made that the increase in options for building added by newer Minecraft is what created that perfectionism in players, but that really feels like more of a problem with the psychology of an average player than it is Minecraft itself.
@Pickle_Candy as someone who enjoys setting up shop wherever I want and building crappy stuff yet still having fun, I'd say that it is 100% the fault of the player
I so agree! Some people aren’t ready for change! But when it comes to this game. It’s understandable, old Minecraft is more nostalgic. But that dosent mean you shouldn’t try it and not like it because it’s different. Change can be good, and to me, it’s oddly satisfying to see people of the new generation being fascinated and trying out the old game, I feel like a parent telling their kid what life was like back in the 90’s through their scrapbook. Even if they don’t like it now, someday they’ll begin to wonder what life was like back then. Having no remote and having to manually change the channel. Stuff like that…
"the game was more simple" argument doesn't even make sense, since the game just keeps adding more side content, i haven't changed my way to play since i started playing the game back to 2014, because the game hasn't changed much his core , wich is gathering materials to build things, having more variety doesn't make the game more complicated, since you can still doing the same houses and structures you were doing back then.
For me "the game was more simple" means no useless mobs or abundance of useless blocks, old caves, old combat, old Nether/End or in general the way the game felt while playing. If you prefer new Minecraft, that's fine. But there is a simplicity to old Minecraft that new Minecraft simply can't recreate, without mods. Saying it's just nostalgia is straight up missing the point :P
@@dudewithachannel1163The game at its core is still the same. You can still craft, build, and more. It’s just with more variety. Variety doesn’t mean it’s complex. Maybe we’re “missing the point” because there is no point being made. Nothing about the game is made to be harder or complicated.
@@kevinpaige9499, okay? It's still a different experience though. This is like saying The Dark Knight is the same as Long Halloween because it has the core of its plot. Old Minecraft and new Minecraft are simply two different experiences from how much has changed :P I like that you try to twist my complaint as "it's too complex" though lol
@@dudewithachannel1163First of useless mobs, like I get your point but I'd rather that than lowering the amount of mobs cuz it makes the game feel more alive. Second useless blocks? I'd say 90% of blocks are actually useful. Just because a block isn't as useful as a bed or furnace or crafting table, it doesn't mean it's useless. For example, hanging signs and laterns are pretty meh compared to their counterparts as they are either cheaper or are just better, but that doesn't mean they're useless. If a block looks even half decent, chances are builders are gonna use it.
Ima use somthing that atleast I'm more familiar with. Halo 5 is bad. Halo 3 is better Halo5: -unecasary microtransactions -bloated and useless weapon variants mucking up the balance of the game -horrible story -artstyle is horribly generic +base gamplay is solid +graphics are decent +microtransaction advantage weapons are religated to specific modes. Halo 3: +no unecasary microtransactions. +simple and well made sandbox for decntly balanced weapon combat +a brilliant conclusion to a triology of well written games +gamplay feels really nice -graphics starting ti show age but hold up well
I have no clue what he’s trying to do with the thumbnail He showed the big Minecraft TH-camrs of both time periods, but they all make good content This is confusing since the point of the video is that new < old, but the new TH-camrs can be called better than the old ones
I don't want to sound like a gatekeeper, because I love when people enjoy Minecraft. But I think a lot of these kinds of folks saying that Minecraft is bad now don't really understand Minecraft. They think that everyone plays the same, or that the point of Minecraft is to defeat the ender dragon and min max and build all of the automatic farms they've seen people make. Not everyone enjoys rushing to the end of a game or trying to get the best stats. The reason people come back to the game is because there is nearly an infinite amount of things to do, and heck, they can even choose what NOT to do. Saying that, there is nothing wrong with rushing through Minecraft or playing in a way that I personally wouldn't. Because no one can tell you what you can or cannot do. I've been playing Minecraft for almost 15 years and there are still a lot of things that excite me about the game and new updates. Minecraft was the game I yearned for as a kid, and when I found out about it back in 2010 I knew that I had to have it. Although I am nearing 30 years of age, Minecraft still fascinates and inspires me. To reverse that, I will get inspiration from outside sources that motivate me to play Minecraft. It isn't worse than old versions, it is just different. The cool thing is, that if you want to play old versions, you still can!! Sometimes I play beta 1.7.3 with the mod better than adventure installed, and I enjoy it too. Play however you want! You don't even have to play if you don't find it enjoyable anymore. I think Sipover's video may have been better received if his criticisms were framed as his opinions, not as facts.
I can barely watch the clips because of how many stupid sound effects he used, and most of these "modern minecraft bad" videos boil down to "waa! why are they adding more things to help build? when you kill the ender dragon you're supposed to stop playing!"
people didn't build massive structures back then it was way more casual thats the problem for most people you beat the ender dragon at the end after youve acomplished everythint
But that's what I'm saying. They act like you shouldn't play ever again once the ender dragon is beaten, basically saying minecraft is a strictly linear game and building is pointless when it's the whole appeal of the game
Honestly if he titled the video "Why I prefer the older Minecraft" and gave his personal view & points on why he personally prefers them. Than I wouldn't have a problem with his video
New Minecraft is pretty cool and I'm liking the new additions they have added. With the thumbnail too, that's definitely subjective. To me I have the nostalgia of growing up with Stampy, DanTDM, PopularMMOS etc, but new Minecraft players will have that same nostalgia but for more recent creators
Not to mention some of them are still around. While I kind of miss some of the old Minecraft youtubers, I will openly admit that there was a point where a lot of them were beginning to fall off. Like Little Lizard and Tiny Turtle, what the fuck was that? Also, anyone remember Atlantic Craft and when they had a crew? What happened to that? I'm not necessarily familiar with modern minecraft youtubers (even though ironically that is a field I want to dip my toes into), but I have stumbled upon a few I like. Like this one guy doing a lets play that got me into Greg Tech.
Until the future when it's suddenly nostalgic. I remember back in 2016 how people were saying it was the worst year ever but now I'll see people saying they miss summer of 2016 because of Pokemon Go or whatever (which you can still play)
@@fahoodie1852 It is about the game. How you feel when playing the game is a subjective thing. How you feel will always change no matter the game you play. No matter who you are, it'll always happen. He's trying to critique the game objectively by using subjective points which aren't good and can easily be disproven.
@@Chilled_Blue exactly. Minecraft is better nowadays in every way than old Minecraft, but old Minecraft is “better” because we associate the simple builds and few blocks with childhood days and when life didn’t get in the way and memories playing with friends. If modern Minecraft say 1.21 was released in 2013 we would be now talking about how we missed raiding mansions, bastions, or trying to find swift sneak.
@@Chilled_Blue 100% correct. New Minecraft is better and has so much more opportunities but associating old Minecraft with simpler carefree times makes us remember it fondly
@@fahoodie1852As someone who started playing Minecraft during the mid to late-ish Minecraft console days, (idk if that's considered old old), I feel like the memories and the people you play with have a huge role in how you view the game, that and your age too. I remember going to my friend's house and having a 2v2 with his older brother and mine, and playing those cool AF mini games back during the Xbox 369/One days. I also remember having that same friend come over recently and trolling my younger siblings and trying, (and failing horribly 😭), to beat the ender dragon. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I really don't have a gripe with base Minecraft tbh. I don't know if that's because of my current age, or something else, but I don't. There are things I kinda miss and things I don't. (Like I really miss the ease of spamming blocks, or the trial texture pack feature in the console editions, but I sure as hell don't miss ugly og oak texture, sorry 🙌, or the really bad og cave gen, and the ridiculous amount of dead ends and wasted time and torches 😣). There are times where I feel like my creativity is getting zapped up, (prob because im getting older, idk 😔), but honestly I still have a lot of fun playing Minecraft as I did back in 2nd grade. It also doesn't hurt to have friends to play with too. 😭
I can never go back on the old Minecraft especially the fact I’m a huge builder the new blocks has open the gate with so many old builds. I want to do, that I couldn’t back then 😂
3:18 i think his complaint here comes from youtubers or people in the minecraft community that rush through the game to put out massive buildings and villager slave farms in old minecraft stuff like that wouldn't happen
wont modern minecraft also be nostalgic to future players too? i remember when the nether was all nether wastes, but personally i think the new nether is even better, more places to explore, and i like the new blocks too, it expands my building skills and makes things easier to match my aesthetic, but that is just my opinion
My problem with modern Minecraft channels, let alone almost every channel now, is just drama or doing horrible things, while you would never really see that with the classic channels, and when you do, it's very rare to find
Really the only thing that has changed is the people that make the content and society’s desire to play the victim card even if they weren’t a victim take the dream allegations for example and the Wilber situation
Not to mention being a TH-camr is very dangerous and with these situations they aren’t quite as incentivized as before these content creators obviously aren’t given enough room to grow
I am 20 and was around back in them “good old days” fast forward 12 years later and I play a old version of Minecraft (Before trading was a thing) and it was fun for a bit until it got so boring compared to never versions. Now there is so much stuff to do on Minecraft, especially with Caves and Cliffs and the newer Nether update.
wow I understand sipover’s arguement! Everything new sucks and old stuff had more! *you cant experience Minecraft ever again, so he can’t really do anything about describing the experience*
17:27 Yeah that video did look pretty awful. New MineCraft has so much awesome stuff to offer. Getting blinded by nostalgia is a huge disservice to oneself.
I think the only reasonable argument you could make that is for old Minecraft is how busted the modern version of the game is in terms of villagers + farms compared to the old
i think youtubers need to realize when you play something a thousand times with the same set end goal in mind you're gonna get bored. like of course you're bored, you made farms for everything you could possibly need, you spend your time only trying to beat the dragon, and you've made a career off of playing one single game. if they have an issue with running out of stuff to do, there's mods. i've been playing this game since i was 14 and i feel like the only people who make it feel corporate or whine about nostalgia are the pioneers of the corporate feeling who turned the game into "hardcore only and only goal is beat the dragon". like i dont know, paying people to make you builds for videos is corporate feeling but whatever floats your boat. also insane how he bitches about new mcyters in the thumbnail when he makes clickbait and whines about things he helped create the standard for. im over here still enjoying the updates and thrilled to get new things to explore and also installing mods or modpacks when im bored.
Oh yeah because i totally enjoyed the miserable spaghetti junction that was the old cave system that also was so mineral poor that you gotta do a one thousand block long line and mine by the sides every two blocks just minmax ore discovery. And also shulker boxes because god knew we needed backpacks in one way or another.
Personally, I don’t enjoy new Minecraft as much as old because new Minecraft feels like too much stuff is there, and when I play a 2010 version of Minecraft I’m just looking at the simpler side, how I’m going to build a new store or something. I don’t need to worry about phantoms or any new wacky mob
ngl i can see where he's coming from because old minecraft versions were great in a unique way that is kinda different than now, but he's bringing up all the wrong points (modern versions are great too, games need to update man)
The biggest thing I cannot stand from “new Minecraft bad, old Minecraft good” videos is how utterly and *extremely* pretentious with how they explain stuff like “the intricacies of the game’s simple design and palette of blocks and the eerie sense that you’re alone in this strange world”. It’s meaningless, egotistical, pseudo-intellectual dribble
It’s true that minecraft doesn’t feel like how it used to be, but that has a lot to do with nostalgia and the overall change of time. I myself miss how both minecraft and TH-cam was at a more simple time. Still, minecraft changing is not a problem, in fact, it’s a Necessity in order to keep up with the modern era of video games and stay relevant.
Remember that Minecraft is a story , a story that wasn't meant to hurt anyone . It gives us equality and freedom (not directly means about in game currencies or it's pay to play) , It's just testing the player's challenge of how they handle the story their in this game and what Sipover's talking is just an average 1 star review in the App Store .
I play Beta 1.7.3 and Classic Minecraft a lot, and the reason why is because I like their simpler nature, less blocks to work with forcing me to be creative, but that doesn't make these two better than Minecraft right now. Minecraft in it's current state is exactly what many were dreaming of Minecraft becoming during their youth, with the amount of blocks now making building a lot easier, not to mention the caves in modern Minecraft look phenomenal, not cramped like in older versions. Nostalgia is a good thing but when it alters your perception of reality then it is a bad thing.
People need to stop acting like the old stuff is better than the new stuff. Sure there are some things that were better in the olden MC days but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t anything good now. Minecraft has improved and sometimes we need to keep our nostalgia aside to see that.
People admire the old simplicity, and how new content doesn’t seem as thought out or genuine under the billion dollar company that is Microsoft. It’s just preference between authenticity and content, of which I prefer authenticity.
@@tblcyek okay but what makes the new versions not authentic? It's still the same simple game and I don't get how adding more and new stuff makes it less authentic.
@ Things like the sniffer and warden just seem like way too much and a bit hamfisted (doing a mob vote quite too often). Some are good, like the nether and water updates, and allays. It’s just content overload, quantity over quality.
@@tblcyek sniffer I can understand but I think the warden is amazing. It gives something to look out for and be weary of when you explore the caves. Plus if you find a really good one, the loot can be insane. But I don't understand like the quality vs quantity part. Like how do you determine if something is good or bad quality in Minecraft? If it's too much, I don't get that because Minecraft was never a limited game plus you take it at your own pace so...
@ It’s not specifically the warden. What I mean by this is that the whole art direction has undeniably shifted, and whether that’s for better or worse is personal interpretation. I personally think it’s shifted more to a hasty, corporate “put out product fast so people buy game and micro transactions” style, leading to a less homey and original feel to mobs and blocks.
@@tblcyek with the art style I can understand what you're saying but talking about adding new stuff, mechanics, and content, I don't think it's just for money and also, I don't think the new content would even help the selling that much because it's still selling well. People will buy the game regardless of what content they put so me personally, it seems like their adding stuff to expand the world and give players more stuff to do. But that's my view.
I don't get why so many people are obsessing over beta recently. It seems like a trend that just sprung up. New Minecraft has more items for making cool buildings and better terrain to explore.
For what it's worth, I grew up on versions 1.5.2 and on and never really played beta Minecraft. Last year I went back and played Beta Minecraft for the first time and I had a lot of fun with it. I honestly can't say I feel the same joy when playing modern Minecraft. The simplicity and limited options are what make it fun. But that's not an opinion everyone will share.
when i was getting back into minecraft what made me really appreciate modern is hermitcraft. watching these creators be like “wow look at this new feature they added isnt this amazing!!!”
I'm 100% convinced that Sipover made that video so that people would point out how and why modern Minecraft is quite literally the opposite of what he said, pointing out stuff like why bees are useful, and why Axolotl's aren't random mobs, because he wanted to get back to Minecraft and was too lazy to read the wiki.
can't wait when sipover tries to play Minecraft on 1 non-regenerating block without any physical clues and not argue of the lack of "creative simplicity" or whatever
when it comes to Minecraft,i simply don't have enough attention span to keep myself focused on the game anymore, and its nobody's fault really,its just how things are, and i can't really change my focus from games that have action or very charming story to game that always was about lovely building,grinding for items, and just making yourself a cute little world that you going to keep expanding with various stuff.
I hadnt rlly played since 1.16, i come back recently, and everything he had described about old minecraft i felt in the newer version. its because I had a lot of game to uncover and didnt just wiki everything and know everything off the top of my head
ngl i do miss the glory days sometimes of console legacy edition but.........I cant live without my stone cutters man....I've been spoiled by modern conveniences
"i'll have everything planned ahead" or, you know, uhh, just don't plan? choose to not learn everything before you play through patch notes, but learn whilst playing?
I feel like the main thing that throws me off is how he perceives both versions. Basically, He sees modern Minecraft as an experienced player who knows many aspects of the game and its gimmicks, and he sees old Minecraft as a newbie who just started yesterday and don't know what they are doing. This kinda gives some bias as his other points on how old Minecraft is superior could be applied much better when said for modern Minecraft.
i've been playing minecraft since november 2012, this "old minecraft is better" thing is BS. of course you're gonna have a more fun experience playing older versions of minecraft for the first time in years, because you don't do it often. you're bored of new minecraft because you've played it hundreds of times and already know what to expect. imagine being a kid in the modern day and having never played minecraft and knowing nothing about it, and playing it for the first time in its current state. how would that not feel the same way as it did 10 years ago? yeah the game is different now but it's certainly not objectively worse than old minecraft
I wish Minecraft adding like AA guns in Minecraft so that we can deal with Phantoms. Sleeping is for the weak. Real Minecraft Gamers knows Bed is only a Bomb or a Respawn Anchor.
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Old stuff good, new stuff bad. I just summarized Sipover's video.
Nooooo not the spoil 😭
How dare u spoil it?
@@Anonymous-d3wYes, how dare he spoils it
real
Summed the truth up nicely
It’s not just Minecraft it’s EVERYTHING. People are blinded by nostalgia like Roblox, memes, and etc. I swear I we are starting to sound like a old man saying “Back in my day”
Exactly bro, you could name so many topics and individuals in each category and you'd be right. I swear most people are blinded by nostalgia and think they're childhood is better than everyone else's that isn't the same or close to there's. I know this because I'm related to multiple people that think like that and I have multiple friends that also think like that, and with the internet it's just everywhere
The Roblox argument is valid though. Greed took over it, and many bad things are happening in it. Toxicity, and well... Companies hiring teenagers, sometimes illegally. I'm talking about the platform in general, not some games. New roblox games aren't necessarily bad. It's not the games, it's the platform. One thing roblox did right is reducing exploiting to a certain extent.
And not to mention, not having adequate protection for minors.
this is very present with Hollywood as well with the good ol multi verse!
Microsoft Windows?
"our groomers were SOO much better than your groomers"
“Our Abuser is like.. 20x better than your normal people.”
True, Dream was accused and cleared, LionMaker fr posted the child’s nudes on Twitter, our old groomers were more strong and crazy 💪
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dan isnt a groomer tf you on💀
Dude What ☠
When I'm in a delusional competition and my opponent is an old Minecraft fan
real
They can just play older versions, no need to complain.
I kinda miss the old caves, to many caverns
I started when powered rails were powered on their own and honestly those old sucks to play in (my opinion) I tried playing the game in every major release a few months ago cuz of the multiple vids suggested to me about this whole old mc better new mc sucks thing. I still prefer the latest release.
I left minecraft because it wasnt my cup of tea anymore,
I became more motivated to do other things rather than spend all my time on minecraft
Its not that deep
Yeah it is
to many people
Same thing. I love Minecraft but i just changed interests. Thats it. Nothing else. Leaving Minecraft got me into other games like lfd2, Elden ring and armored core 6. Ill2 miss Minecraft but leaving it led me to new interests.
That's their problem, not mine or his and they need to deal with it.
exactly and i play old minecraft for the simplicity and thats fine
This is a problem with Gamers nowadays with nostalgia is blinds people from reality.
especially in Halo.
This to me is exactly what has gone way too far in the pokemon community. I think if it gets to the point many people want to actively regress the games to what it was back then, it is too far, this is happening with lots of pokemon fans
you sound like a clown regardless if you have a point.
Nostalgia is fine, As long as you're not like attached to it all the time to the point of bashing new things without proper criticism
@@FLOOOOURRRR I know that that doesn't mean you can't be nostalgic.
Sipover on his way to act like he discovered how to make a nether portal on his own when they were first added and definitely not from friends or a youtube tutorial:
Like bro is seriously acting like tutorials are new but they've always been around from the very beginning 😭
Bro replied to his comment, lol
lmao true so did everyone that was notches vision
What’s crazy about the whole old vs new argument to me is that you can still easily and officially go back and play any major release of Minecraft at any time. 2010-2011 Minecraft isn’t some lost version, it’s very much accessible and likely always will be. There are also mods out there that turn newer Minecraft into a modern day recreation of the old versions.
the golden age minecraft community is huge and they do exactly what you say, you just can't stand hearing your game be criticized because you made it a part of your identity
How?
@@Jacksontrooper777 fym how
the older versions are right there! nostalgictweaks is right there for modern versions! i can assure you there's even more mods and resource packs that make minecraft function like the older versions
“because I grew up on it, it must be superior to anything new”.
I agree with this completely. His video was quite biased, and obviously Minecraft is very dependent on the player's choices.
Honestly, I think the newer version is better because:
1, it LITERALLY gives an expansion on the game each update (like as said in this video), so there's more things.
2, if I ever want an old feel for the game without switching versions entirely, all I need is a few texture packs that give the game a look similar to the older version of the game, and it's that simple.
All the points made in this video, I completely agree with. You spat straight up facts man 👍
Thank you and to your points, I agree 100%. The game never takes anything away from the old versions. But I think the main issue is that he's nostalgic for the first few times he played the game because based on the experience he was describing and wanting, it's something you gain from playing the game for the first time ever.
@@Chilled_Bluethats why new is dirt and old is gold
Agreed especially on the updates, I have a lot of memories with old Minecraft, but one is the disasterous 1.10 update. Well not disasterous, but adding a few new blocks and mobs is very disappointing compared to what people expected from the milestone of 1.10. I’m glad Minecraft puts more stuff into their updates now.
This is exactly what I do, lol
@@Chilled_Blue As someone who played 1.2 all the way back, I love all the big updates it gets. Sure, I have some issues with policies (like the now thankfully defunct Mob Vote), but the game itself just keeps on cooking. Who knows, we may get some of the lost mob vote mobs back.
As a kid with a bunch of random lego pieces I made a little town inhabited by robots, each with some kind of job, except Windshield Wiper Bot, all he does is wipe his own windshield.
I remember taking 1 by 2 bricks, and mashing it on random Lego Minifig heads because I had a very limited amount of Minecraft sets 😭
Just wanted to share that.
I'm pretty sure Sipover's main point is "I'm bad at building, let's go back to a time where everyone sucked at building!" He's the type of guy to say that everyone should go back to MS Paint because everyone's bad at MS Paint! Or make everyone only build with 2x2 Lego pieces.
This would be fine if it was a video about perfectionism ruining motivation - I think that would be a great video topic relating to Minecraft, actually - but it's not. It's a nostalgia bait video, and it makes him look kinda pathetic, blaming the game for his lack of building skill.
Anyhoo, if you are struggling with an overwhelming block pallete, try selcting a block for the main colour, and an accent colour. Think Oak and Cobblestone, or Cherry and Copper. Colour theory can help here too.
As a guy who prefers to use MS Paint for the majority of his art projects. I am quite offended.
Dude, I would soooo watch a video about perfectionism ruining motivation, that's a problem I often struggle with. I wish I could go back to the mindset I had when playing older Minecraft where I didn't care how good something looked and I just built for the fun of it. An argument could made that the increase in options for building added by newer Minecraft is what created that perfectionism in players, but that really feels like more of a problem with the psychology of an average player than it is Minecraft itself.
@Pickle_Candy as someone who enjoys setting up shop wherever I want and building crappy stuff yet still having fun, I'd say that it is 100% the fault of the player
@@BIGTHANKSHEESH Absolutely couldn't agree more
Kinda Unpopular Opinion: man i hate when people compare any media (Minecraft included) old to modern and then say "OLD GOOD, MODERN BAD!!11!!!"
I agree, apart from the "who cares" part..
@@HellfireJerk i edited out the who cares part, but i also agree too!
@@cee5279 eh it's okay. Besides modern doesn't mean bad all the time.
@@HellfireJerk your right mate
I so agree! Some people aren’t ready for change! But when it comes to this game. It’s understandable, old Minecraft is more nostalgic. But that dosent mean you shouldn’t try it and not like it because it’s different. Change can be good, and to me, it’s oddly satisfying to see people of the new generation being fascinated and trying out the old game, I feel like a parent telling their kid what life was like back in the 90’s through their scrapbook. Even if they don’t like it now, someday they’ll begin to wonder what life was like back then. Having no remote and having to manually change the channel. Stuff like that…
"the game was more simple" argument doesn't even make sense, since the game just keeps adding more side content, i haven't changed my way to play since i started playing the game back to 2014, because the game hasn't changed much his core , wich is gathering materials to build things, having more variety doesn't make the game more complicated, since you can still doing the same houses and structures you were doing back then.
Yeah! I like every additions of Minecraft, and I like them more for getting more polished each update
For me "the game was more simple" means no useless mobs or abundance of useless blocks, old caves, old combat, old Nether/End or in general the way the game felt while playing.
If you prefer new Minecraft, that's fine. But there is a simplicity to old Minecraft that new Minecraft simply can't recreate, without mods. Saying it's just nostalgia is straight up missing the point :P
@@dudewithachannel1163The game at its core is still the same. You can still craft, build, and more. It’s just with more variety. Variety doesn’t mean it’s complex.
Maybe we’re “missing the point” because there is no point being made. Nothing about the game is made to be harder or complicated.
@@kevinpaige9499, okay? It's still a different experience though. This is like saying The Dark Knight is the same as Long Halloween because it has the core of its plot. Old Minecraft and new Minecraft are simply two different experiences from how much has changed :P
I like that you try to twist my complaint as "it's too complex" though lol
@@dudewithachannel1163First of useless mobs, like I get your point but I'd rather that than lowering the amount of mobs cuz it makes the game feel more alive. Second useless blocks? I'd say 90% of blocks are actually useful. Just because a block isn't as useful as a bed or furnace or crafting table, it doesn't mean it's useless. For example, hanging signs and laterns are pretty meh compared to their counterparts as they are either cheaper or are just better, but that doesn't mean they're useless. If a block looks even half decent, chances are builders are gonna use it.
I like old Minecraft but sipovers arguments kinda fall apart.
People who glaze old stuff always annoyed me
You're just salty you got left with the scraps of a franchise while we ate good.
@bungiecrimes7247 you have that backwards.
Old minecraft is bare bones compared to modern.
It had less to it un every way.
@@bungiecrimes7247old minecraft gets stale like a vinegar and salt chip in dry heat
Ima use somthing that atleast I'm more familiar with.
Halo 5 is bad. Halo 3 is better
Halo5:
-unecasary microtransactions
-bloated and useless weapon variants mucking up the balance of the game
-horrible story
-artstyle is horribly generic
+base gamplay is solid
+graphics are decent
+microtransaction advantage weapons are religated to specific modes.
Halo 3:
+no unecasary microtransactions.
+simple and well made sandbox for decntly balanced weapon combat
+a brilliant conclusion to a triology of well written games
+gamplay feels really nice
-graphics starting ti show age but hold up well
@@Psychologicaldeformality fr
I saw Evbo in the thumbnail of ‘2023’ and almost screamed. He’s one of the greatest MCYTs I know, how could Sipover diss the Parkour God like that?
Like, he jumped for the beef, for parkour god’s sake
Evbo saved parkour civilization. Bro does not know Evbo's power level
He is friends with evbo, they once collabed! The vid was def rage bait.
nah he does civilisation vids thats it
I have no clue what he’s trying to do with the thumbnail
He showed the big Minecraft TH-camrs of both time periods, but they all make good content
This is confusing since the point of the video is that new < old, but the new TH-camrs can be called better than the old ones
I don't want to sound like a gatekeeper, because I love when people enjoy Minecraft. But I think a lot of these kinds of folks saying that Minecraft is bad now don't really understand Minecraft. They think that everyone plays the same, or that the point of Minecraft is to defeat the ender dragon and min max and build all of the automatic farms they've seen people make. Not everyone enjoys rushing to the end of a game or trying to get the best stats. The reason people come back to the game is because there is nearly an infinite amount of things to do, and heck, they can even choose what NOT to do. Saying that, there is nothing wrong with rushing through Minecraft or playing in a way that I personally wouldn't. Because no one can tell you what you can or cannot do.
I've been playing Minecraft for almost 15 years and there are still a lot of things that excite me about the game and new updates. Minecraft was the game I yearned for as a kid, and when I found out about it back in 2010 I knew that I had to have it. Although I am nearing 30 years of age, Minecraft still fascinates and inspires me. To reverse that, I will get inspiration from outside sources that motivate me to play Minecraft. It isn't worse than old versions, it is just different. The cool thing is, that if you want to play old versions, you still can!! Sometimes I play beta 1.7.3 with the mod better than adventure installed, and I enjoy it too. Play however you want! You don't even have to play if you don't find it enjoyable anymore.
I think Sipover's video may have been better received if his criticisms were framed as his opinions, not as facts.
exactly
roblox players and minecraft players aren’t so different after all
both of them have people in their community who constantly glaze the past
Windows community?
brainrot community?
I can barely watch the clips because of how many stupid sound effects he used, and most of these "modern minecraft bad" videos boil down to "waa! why are they adding more things to help build? when you kill the ender dragon you're supposed to stop playing!"
people didn't build massive structures back then it was way more casual thats the problem for most people you beat the ender dragon at the end after youve acomplished everythint
But that's what I'm saying. They act like you shouldn't play ever again once the ender dragon is beaten, basically saying minecraft is a strictly linear game and building is pointless when it's the whole appeal of the game
This just in: man plays minecraft for a decade, gets bored, blames game
basically sipover
Honestly if he titled the video "Why I prefer the older Minecraft" and gave his personal view & points on why he personally prefers them.
Than I wouldn't have a problem with his video
New Minecraft is pretty cool and I'm liking the new additions they have added.
With the thumbnail too, that's definitely subjective. To me I have the nostalgia of growing up with Stampy, DanTDM, PopularMMOS etc, but new Minecraft players will have that same nostalgia but for more recent creators
I don't like them, too much for my phone 😭
Not to mention some of them are still around. While I kind of miss some of the old Minecraft youtubers, I will openly admit that there was a point where a lot of them were beginning to fall off. Like Little Lizard and Tiny Turtle, what the fuck was that? Also, anyone remember Atlantic Craft and when they had a crew? What happened to that?
I'm not necessarily familiar with modern minecraft youtubers (even though ironically that is a field I want to dip my toes into), but I have stumbled upon a few I like. Like this one guy doing a lets play that got me into Greg Tech.
oh my god! n- n- NEW STUFF!!?!? it MUST be bad
Until the future when it's suddenly nostalgic. I remember back in 2016 how people were saying it was the worst year ever but now I'll see people saying they miss summer of 2016 because of Pokemon Go or whatever (which you can still play)
It’s not about the game, it’s how we felt playing it
@@fahoodie1852 It is about the game. How you feel when playing the game is a subjective thing. How you feel will always change no matter the game you play. No matter who you are, it'll always happen. He's trying to critique the game objectively by using subjective points which aren't good and can easily be disproven.
@@Chilled_Blue exactly. Minecraft is better nowadays in every way than old Minecraft, but old Minecraft is “better” because we associate the simple builds and few blocks with childhood days and when life didn’t get in the way and memories playing with friends. If modern Minecraft say 1.21 was released in 2013 we would be now talking about how we missed raiding mansions, bastions, or trying to find swift sneak.
@@fahoodie1852 yeah I agree with that. For childhood memories and experience back then, yeah it was the best.
@@Chilled_Blue 100% correct. New Minecraft is better and has so much more opportunities but associating old Minecraft with simpler carefree times makes us remember it fondly
@@fahoodie1852As someone who started playing Minecraft during the mid to late-ish Minecraft console days, (idk if that's considered old old), I feel like the memories and the people you play with have a huge role in how you view the game, that and your age too.
I remember going to my friend's house and having a 2v2 with his older brother and mine, and playing those cool AF mini games back during the Xbox 369/One days.
I also remember having that same friend come over recently and trolling my younger siblings and trying, (and failing horribly 😭), to beat the ender dragon.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I really don't have a gripe with base Minecraft tbh. I don't know if that's because of my current age, or something else, but I don't.
There are things I kinda miss and things I don't. (Like I really miss the ease of spamming blocks, or the trial texture pack feature in the console editions, but I sure as hell don't miss ugly og oak texture, sorry 🙌, or the really bad og cave gen, and the ridiculous amount of dead ends and wasted time and torches 😣).
There are times where I feel like my creativity is getting zapped up, (prob because im getting older, idk 😔), but honestly I still have a lot of fun playing Minecraft as I did back in 2nd grade.
It also doesn't hurt to have friends to play with too. 😭
I can never go back on the old Minecraft especially the fact I’m a huge builder the new blocks has open the gate with so many old builds. I want to do, that I couldn’t back then 😂
facts
3:18 i think his complaint here comes from youtubers or people in the minecraft community that rush through the game to put out massive buildings and villager slave farms in old minecraft stuff like that wouldn't happen
wont modern minecraft also be nostalgic to future players too? i remember when the nether was all nether wastes, but personally i think the new nether is even better, more places to explore, and i like the new blocks too, it expands my building skills and makes things easier to match my aesthetic, but that is just my opinion
Nostalgia is a good thing but he is being Blinded by it. He cannot see Modern Minecraft these days.
My problem with modern Minecraft channels, let alone almost every channel now, is just drama or doing horrible things, while you would never really see that with the classic channels, and when you do, it's very rare to find
Paradoxically, we're now finding that some of our older icons have some skeletons in their closet, like Sky Does Minecraft for example.
I can summarize his video in one sentence: "I'm stuck in a rut and refuse to accept that it's a 'me' problem."
Really the only thing that has changed is the people that make the content and society’s desire to play the victim card even if they weren’t a victim take the dream allegations for example and the Wilber situation
Not to mention being a TH-camr is very dangerous and with these situations they aren’t quite as incentivized as before these content creators obviously aren’t given enough room to grow
I am 20 and was around back in them “good old days” fast forward 12 years later and I play a old version of Minecraft (Before trading was a thing) and it was fun for a bit until it got so boring compared to never versions. Now there is so much stuff to do on Minecraft, especially with Caves and Cliffs and the newer Nether update.
Although I started playing the game since 1.17, I feel like modern MC is still very fun
I think so to. They definitely improved a lot of stuff from previous versions.
same XD
1.17 is fairly new. It's like 5 years ago but 1.17 was definitely modern Minecraft (cause the texture changes and Elytra were already there)
wow I understand sipover’s arguement! Everything new sucks and old stuff had more! *you cant experience Minecraft ever again, so he can’t really do anything about describing the experience*
17:27 Yeah that video did look pretty awful. New MineCraft has so much awesome stuff to offer. Getting blinded by nostalgia is a huge disservice to oneself.
I mean I like old Minecraft a bit more than new yet the oldest version I know I’ve played is like 1.2, maybe?
Nostalgia blinds people
I think the only reasonable argument you could make that is for old Minecraft is how busted the modern version of the game is in terms of villagers + farms compared to the old
i think youtubers need to realize when you play something a thousand times with the same set end goal in mind you're gonna get bored. like of course you're bored, you made farms for everything you could possibly need, you spend your time only trying to beat the dragon, and you've made a career off of playing one single game. if they have an issue with running out of stuff to do, there's mods. i've been playing this game since i was 14 and i feel like the only people who make it feel corporate or whine about nostalgia are the pioneers of the corporate feeling who turned the game into "hardcore only and only goal is beat the dragon". like i dont know, paying people to make you builds for videos is corporate feeling but whatever floats your boat. also insane how he bitches about new mcyters in the thumbnail when he makes clickbait and whines about things he helped create the standard for. im over here still enjoying the updates and thrilled to get new things to explore and also installing mods or modpacks when im bored.
A guy complaining over a block game is wild *not you, the other guy*
I’d choose to eat the Legos, like they can’t be that bad.
I hate how people will hate modern stuff just because it’s modern
Fr can we just agree that both versions are fun for there own ways and move on
@ real
"Old Minecraft good, New Minecraft bad. Because I said so!"
- Sipover
It also funny that a lot of the stuff he complain that make new Minecraft is in the version he showing as old Minecraft lol
This next quote is how i can describe Sipover's video perfectly: "I DON'T WANT CHANGE, I DON'T WANT CHANGE, EVERYTHING HAS TO STAY THE SAME"
16:21 Ironically, all of those (except the potato) were added before Minecraft 1.0 even released.
Oh yeah because i totally enjoyed the miserable spaghetti junction that was the old cave system that also was so mineral poor that you gotta do a one thousand block long line and mine by the sides every two blocks just minmax ore discovery.
And also shulker boxes because god knew we needed backpacks in one way or another.
Personally, I don’t enjoy new Minecraft as much as old because new Minecraft feels like too much stuff is there, and when I play a 2010 version of Minecraft I’m just looking at the simpler side, how I’m going to build a new store or something. I don’t need to worry about phantoms or any new wacky mob
There really aren't that many new mobs to worry about
"old minecraft was better" so is new minecraft yters be posting peak cinemas
Yeah has Sipover SEEN PkCiv?
ngl i can see where he's coming from because old minecraft versions were great in a unique way that is kinda different than now, but he's bringing up all the wrong points (modern versions are great too, games need to update man)
Real, I won't completely dismiss his opinion since it has some truth to it, but the points he used feel irrelevant.
They still make Minecraft videos everyday after saying it sucked. It just doesn't make any sense...😔
The biggest thing I cannot stand from “new Minecraft bad, old Minecraft good” videos is how utterly and *extremely* pretentious with how they explain stuff like “the intricacies of the game’s simple design and palette of blocks and the eerie sense that you’re alone in this strange world”. It’s meaningless, egotistical, pseudo-intellectual dribble
what did bro even try to say it’s like he just heard these words and tried to sound smart throwing them in here😭
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug
It’s true that minecraft doesn’t feel like how it used to be, but that has a lot to do with nostalgia and the overall change of time.
I myself miss how both minecraft and TH-cam was at a more simple time.
Still, minecraft changing is not a problem, in fact, it’s a Necessity in order to keep up with the modern era of video games and stay relevant.
Remember that Minecraft is a story , a story that wasn't meant to hurt anyone . It gives us equality and freedom (not directly means about in game currencies or it's pay to play) , It's just testing the player's challenge of how they handle the story their in this game and what Sipover's talking is just an average 1 star review in the App Store .
And thoses same mofo's will be playing Vanilla Minecraft for the past 8 years and call the game better before/boring like cmon 💀💀
I play Beta 1.7.3 and Classic Minecraft a lot, and the reason why is because I like their simpler nature, less blocks to work with forcing me to be creative, but that doesn't make these two better than Minecraft right now. Minecraft in it's current state is exactly what many were dreaming of Minecraft becoming during their youth, with the amount of blocks now making building a lot easier, not to mention the caves in modern Minecraft look phenomenal, not cramped like in older versions. Nostalgia is a good thing but when it alters your perception of reality then it is a bad thing.
i remember our OG groomer... lionmaker. he is so much better than all the new groomers nowadays ngl
old>new
While I enjoy all the new content Minecraft has today, old Minecraft and especially old Minecraft videos just had this *feel* you know?
the FEEL isn t the game so sorry
@@alanalkos What are your thoughts?
Youre feeling nostalgic, its not the game lol its you
@@tank___ Oh yeah, nostalgia, that’s it.
he goes from theres too much options to too little options
Can people accept that we get old?
alright but the statue of Atlas at 14:20 looks great! i wish i was whoever the artist is😭
Minecraft conservatism
People need to stop acting like the old stuff is better than the new stuff. Sure there are some things that were better in the olden MC days but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t anything good now. Minecraft has improved and sometimes we need to keep our nostalgia aside to see that.
Same with brawl stars for me
People admire the old simplicity, and how new content doesn’t seem as thought out or genuine under the billion dollar company that is Microsoft. It’s just preference between authenticity and content, of which I prefer authenticity.
@@tblcyek okay but what makes the new versions not authentic? It's still the same simple game and I don't get how adding more and new stuff makes it less authentic.
@ Things like the sniffer and warden just seem like way too much and a bit hamfisted (doing a mob vote quite too often). Some are good, like the nether and water updates, and allays. It’s just content overload, quantity over quality.
@@tblcyek sniffer I can understand but I think the warden is amazing. It gives something to look out for and be weary of when you explore the caves. Plus if you find a really good one, the loot can be insane. But I don't understand like the quality vs quantity part. Like how do you determine if something is good or bad quality in Minecraft? If it's too much, I don't get that because Minecraft was never a limited game plus you take it at your own pace so...
@ It’s not specifically the warden. What I mean by this is that the whole art direction has undeniably shifted, and whether that’s for better or worse is personal interpretation. I personally think it’s shifted more to a hasty, corporate “put out product fast so people buy game and micro transactions” style, leading to a less homey and original feel to mobs and blocks.
@@tblcyek with the art style I can understand what you're saying but talking about adding new stuff, mechanics, and content, I don't think it's just for money and also, I don't think the new content would even help the selling that much because it's still selling well. People will buy the game regardless of what content they put so me personally, it seems like their adding stuff to expand the world and give players more stuff to do. But that's my view.
"I started playing in a way I dislike and I blame the game"
I don't get why so many people are obsessing over beta recently. It seems like a trend that just sprung up. New Minecraft has more items for making cool buildings and better terrain to explore.
Here the problem to the reason why some people go and play older versions is because simpler back then.
@@sammyhorace7523 ya I get that but it doesn’t mean it better or worth more then newer you can have more creative freedom now
@@daofficerofthenoodles7504 yeah I know it's just some of these people are just annoying and keep praising the past way too much.
old minecraft just was built different compared to new I don't know wht it is but new minecraft feels so soulless
yuri
No not really
"I don't know what it is" is code for "I have no reason and am biased"
For what it's worth, I grew up on versions 1.5.2 and on and never really played beta Minecraft. Last year I went back and played Beta Minecraft for the first time and I had a lot of fun with it. I honestly can't say I feel the same joy when playing modern Minecraft. The simplicity and limited options are what make it fun. But that's not an opinion everyone will share.
12:00 nothing built can last forever
My friends and i prefer og minecraft but its only because we've had that world for like 10 years and never updated.
This entire video is just the classic argument of "this thing isn't from my childhood so therefore it's bad."
when i was getting back into minecraft what made me really appreciate modern is hermitcraft. watching these creators be like “wow look at this new feature they added isnt this amazing!!!”
in my opinion both versions are equal
I'm 100% convinced that Sipover made that video so that people would point out how and why modern Minecraft is quite literally the opposite of what he said, pointing out stuff like why bees are useful, and why Axolotl's aren't random mobs, because he wanted to get back to Minecraft and was too lazy to read the wiki.
Older Minecraft TH-camrs are much more entertaining imo, because most newer Minecraft creators don’t play Minecraft mods some do, but most don’t
That part i agree.
You don't miss old minecraft you jut miss being happy
Bro has never watched a movie by Parrot 💀
Minecraft TH-cam changing wasn't even Minecraft fault so I don't know why he's blaming them for it
can't wait when sipover tries to play Minecraft on 1 non-regenerating block without any physical clues and not argue of the lack of "creative simplicity" or whatever
*I get that everyone is entilted to an opinion, BUT-*
He's just saying that because it's fact when it's not I'm going to say this right now not every opinion is worth sharing.
when it comes to Minecraft,i simply don't have enough attention span to keep myself focused on the game anymore, and its nobody's fault really,its just how things are, and i can't really change my focus from games that have action or very charming story to game that always was about lovely building,grinding for items, and just making yourself a cute little world that you going to keep expanding with various stuff.
I hadnt rlly played since 1.16, i come back recently, and everything he had described about old minecraft i felt in the newer version. its because I had a lot of game to uncover and didnt just wiki everything and know everything off the top of my head
ngl i do miss the glory days sometimes of console legacy edition but.........I cant live without my stone cutters man....I've been spoiled by modern conveniences
4:55 Update suppression :P (except OOM which is a headache to use)
The only reason I'd play the old version is the PvP mechanics...
"i'll have everything planned ahead" or, you know, uhh, just don't plan? choose to not learn everything before you play through patch notes, but learn whilst playing?
I feel like the main thing that throws me off is how he perceives both versions. Basically, He sees modern Minecraft as an experienced player who knows many aspects of the game and its gimmicks, and he sees old Minecraft as a newbie who just started yesterday and don't know what they are doing. This kinda gives some bias as his other points on how old Minecraft is superior could be applied much better when said for modern Minecraft.
i've been playing minecraft since november 2012, this "old minecraft is better" thing is BS. of course you're gonna have a more fun experience playing older versions of minecraft for the first time in years, because you don't do it often. you're bored of new minecraft because you've played it hundreds of times and already know what to expect. imagine being a kid in the modern day and having never played minecraft and knowing nothing about it, and playing it for the first time in its current state. how would that not feel the same way as it did 10 years ago? yeah the game is different now but it's certainly not objectively worse than old minecraft
Lego mentioned! 🗿🗣️🔥🔥
The fact that he said "These new random mobs dont contribute to the game.
"
"Tell me something that I can't do in Newer Minecraft that I can only do in Old Minecraft."
Break your boat.
Honestly, you guys could probably talk it out over discord
Sipover used to be good but uh. Yeah now he is who I call shitover.
I wish Minecraft adding like AA guns in Minecraft so that we can deal with Phantoms. Sleeping is for the weak. Real Minecraft Gamers knows Bed is only a Bomb or a Respawn Anchor.
2:29 definitely not me hopping onto a world few times a week not even trying to get nether or end portals up
Three months and only 50k views.
4:55 block with a sword
the video makes more sense to me because i played console version and they removed a lot of the best features from the old console version
Sorry but Mr.Dan "thediamondminecart" is rebooting the mods showcase series, goodbye 2013.
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