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Awesome interview. Interviewer was so calm allowing the guest to share there story. I have an autistic child, I have lisent to this podcast twice. Good to hear that it’s working fine for her kid education in India. Do Indian cities have schools that support special education for kids on spectrum. As kids get older how is schooling support in big cities. When kids are below five it’s different than kids after five. Post five many don’t see a kid on spectrum as child anymore , people don’t show that empathy as they grow older. Do employer insurance covers kid speech therapy, occupational therapy, ABA therapy etc. I’m a dad of autistic child in usa. If anyone can shed light on how India in these special education services
Thanks a lot!! I dont know the answers to these questions. I will let others chime in. We are planning to bring a guest who has more knowledge about these things on our podcast. Stay tuned
I can not tell you how much I agree with all that you’re saying ! I have an exact situation in Belgium with a child with special needs ! I totally agree that teachers in India are so competent that they find how to nurture the kid based on their strengths!
Tough for parents with special needs, I have a friend with autistic child I can relate it’s difficult for others to understand child needs, communication and less financial support from govt. Since you need to pay out of pocket for private lessons like she did. Kudos to parents for courage to move back since it’s not easy after spending long time in Europe. This podcast is good for people in abroad as well as living in India with special needs. Avinash 👌
I live in Switzerland, and trust me no European country of infact any country in the world can match the standard and quality of living. Health care and any kind of infrastructure here is world class. Also, children need to learn some kind of Independence especially if this kid is going to live long term in the western country. So for parents who don't see that leave the western country asap, perhaps India or middle east is best place for you. BTW ,Europe has multiple culture, don't paint image to our innocent Indians back home that Europe culture is one culture. Every European country has its own culture, food, clothes etc.. Even culture within different states in India are very different.
@@externalbiconsultant2054 Totally true, Switzerland is honestly very good on all levels, from education, environment, healthcare and quality of life. Not that easy to immigrate there.. one also has to give a language test after a certain period of time. Kids have to have the skills to survive in a competitive world. Many Indians think that embracing “ western” culture means giving up one’s own Indian culture, which is far from the truth. If there was a podcast about “ Desi does not want to return” there will be a huge amount of people…retiring and going to live in India is a completely different ball game ..
Didn't she say that it didn't match her culture or way of upbringing and hence returning? She is not ditching Europe. She is speaking out of her terrible experience with health care and how it negatively impacted her family unless you think thats also part of western culture.. I think people can make their choices. Its best if people share their experience both good and bad and should be encouraged. Canada painted a rosy picture and look whats happening now. I would encourage people to share real things so people can make informed decisions.
@externalbiconsultant2054 But I heard Switzerland is way more expensive country and by the way, how you manage to have a social life and how you cope up with this weather ? , and how much can one save in that country ?
Just curious to know if they have taken Dutch citizenship already? What are opportunities for foreign country citizens (OCIs) for finding jobs in India? Thanks. Great session. Host is very calm & patient, allows guests to speak unlike other channels
@@DesiReturn I think the above question is a key one that would help for many people to know because citizenship and visa status is a huge deal and factor in moving countries. Maybe this can be asked each time (if the guest is willing to share of course)
Hi, just to clarify something: in India, the “nice” teachers who are supportive towards students typically remain so only until the child is around five years old. After that, children with autism are often treated quite differently from their peers, though this can vary depending on the school. While there is easy access to therapies, advanced therapeutic treatments are still limited, except in certain places like Bangalore. Inclusivity in schools also tends to decline sharply compared to schools in the USA.
@@DesiReturn our son is on the high-functioning autism spectrum, and we were fortunate to find a very understanding ICSE school for him. He has a shadow to help him adjust to typical routines, and his main challenge right now is with higher-order language. We’ve also built a supportive community, with some kids in our building playing with him, which has helped. When we started therapies, they were promising, but over time it became difficult to tell if they were addressing his specific needs. I met many parents whose kids didn’t find the right school or had hard time integrating to regular school and they eventually had to home school or send to special education schools.I’ve noticed that therapies in the USA seem more tailored to individual issues, whereas in India, they often feel quite similar regardless of the diagnosis (though I could be wrong). My advice is to thoroughly research the therapies before choosing one.
Now Netherlands is very expensive with respect to Groceries, no one wants to talk about it why it raised just like that and Jumbo supermarket is super fast in doubling the prices .
having binge watched ur videos and living int he UK for 17 years ---what is the best age to movea. child to india.... i know it depends ---but is there a range ???
Glad you find them valuable. Better to move while they are still in primary school (till grad 5). There are families who moved when kids are in middle/high school. It depends on the kid. All the best.
Western countries should remove the word "Kids" from their dictionaries and term it as "mini adults". They just want all kids to be highly independent with high self-emotional regulation.
I live in Europe and I must stress each country has its own culture. After having said that there is a huge emphasis on being independent.. they are extremely proud if the child is independent. If one looks at the big picture, to survive as an adult one needs to be independent in a very competitive society.. and not forgetting Dutch are very direct and take pride in being so.. it is always beneficial to learn the local language.. then you can understand their mentality and much more. The host country will not adapt to your culture, but it’s the other way around.. This is not a new phenomenon! Having good carrier chances lures people to the west , and very often people don’t inform themselves of their host country..
on the other hand in India, even when kids grow up, parents want to control everything from their love life to finances:) I think neither side is great. I live in NL and yes they expect kids to become very independent early here which I dont fully agree with (not at 12-16) but at the same time, I know children in India who find it very hard when they become young adults as they dont know how to do simple things like cooking, basic finances, etc. I believe a healthy balance is apt for many people. Just wanted to present a balanced perspective based on my experience
@archieravi11 I think all Indians living abroad are managing their lives well and progressing to a great extent....this is because of no loneliness in India ,upbringing,values and most importantly the exposure you get on this land....now things are changing due to media and western influence....Indians are copying westerners...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Its important to for people to consider facts and look at net savings, family life, career progression and any relevant important factors before making the decision
World need to wake to the reality of "europe's best healthcare system". I live in Netherlands with my partner and she has faced so much of incompetence from these doctors.
Why Indians are moving to Germany and Europe where most locals can't identified a Syrian refugee and a skilled Indian worker. Racism is at the peak in Europe now. But US still to be the best for migration.
I dont see how this comment is related to this discussion. I disagree that we are treated like Syrian refugees etc but even if that is the argument, it needs to be made based on facts or self experience in a relevant context.
Nowadays parents being paranoid can harm children s development .Just guiding and being for them is enough. Healthy mind is important ,not unhappy achievers
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the best part is the host not interrupting snd we get the whole content as it is! great listening skills!
Thank you!!
More power to you and wish you all the best!
Thanks for watching !
Awesome interview. Interviewer was so calm allowing the guest to share there story. I have an autistic child, I have lisent to this podcast twice. Good to hear that it’s working fine for her kid education in India.
Do Indian cities have schools that support special education for kids on spectrum. As kids get older how is schooling support in big cities. When kids are below five it’s different than kids after five. Post five many don’t see a kid on spectrum as child anymore , people don’t show that empathy as they grow older.
Do employer insurance covers kid speech therapy, occupational therapy, ABA therapy etc. I’m a dad of autistic child in usa. If anyone can shed light on how India in these special education services
Thanks a lot!! I dont know the answers to these questions. I will let others chime in. We are planning to bring a guest who has more knowledge about these things on our podcast. Stay tuned
Kudos to pavithra for sharing her story so honestly. Wishing all the best for her family.
Thank you!! Yes very candid conversation
I really appreciate the host allowing people to speak freely without interruptions.
Thank you!!
Actually this lady is very intelligent and cares so much for her kid and husband❤❤
True!! She is very candid and caring
Have been watching your videos for long. U have come a long way mate! Come across as sincere
Thank you so much for your kind words! Really appreciate it.
Great episode Avinash. Like how you let people share their story without interrupting too much. Pavithra, you are a warrior.
Thank you very much. Yes Pavitha was so candid and shared lot of valuable insights
Loved the way she put her foot down and hired private specialists!
For sure. She was also very candid during the conversation.
People often do not talk about the issues with hospitals etc. This is very true and it is worse in Southern Europe.
Thanks for sharing your experiences
I can not tell you how much I agree with all that you’re saying ! I have an exact situation in Belgium with a child with special needs ! I totally agree that teachers in India are so competent that they find how to nurture the kid based on their strengths!
Thank you very much for sharing your experiences! All the best
Avinash thank you for being patient and Pavithra you just proved "once again". There isn't greater soldier than mom.
Appreciate the feedback. Yes true about Mom power.
this lady should have a channel of her own..such clarity of thought... can we connect with her on linked in.
Send a note to info @ desireturn .com so we can connect you with the guest
truly inspirational
Thank you!!
Tough for parents with special needs, I have a friend with autistic child I can relate it’s difficult for others to understand child needs, communication and less financial support from govt. Since you need to pay out of pocket for private lessons like she did.
Kudos to parents for courage to move back since it’s not easy after spending long time in Europe. This podcast is good for people in abroad as well as living in India with special needs.
Avinash 👌
Thanks for your perspective and insights. Always super grateful for watching our videos regularly!!
I live in Switzerland, and trust me no European country of infact any country in the world can match the standard and quality of living. Health care and any kind of infrastructure here is world class. Also, children need to learn some kind of Independence especially if this kid is going to live long term in the western country. So for parents who don't see that leave the western country asap, perhaps India or middle east is best place for you. BTW ,Europe has multiple culture, don't paint image to our innocent Indians back home that Europe culture is one culture. Every European country has its own culture, food, clothes etc.. Even culture within different states in India are very different.
@@externalbiconsultant2054 Totally true, Switzerland is honestly very good on all levels, from education, environment, healthcare and quality of life. Not that easy to immigrate there.. one also has to give a language test after a certain period of time. Kids have to have the skills to survive in a competitive world. Many Indians think that embracing “ western” culture means giving up one’s own Indian culture, which is far from the truth. If there was a podcast about “ Desi does not want to return” there will be a huge amount of people…retiring and going to live in India is a completely different ball game ..
Didn't she say that it didn't match her culture or way of upbringing and hence returning? She is not ditching Europe. She is speaking out of her terrible experience with health care and how it negatively impacted her family unless you think thats also part of western culture.. I think people can make their choices. Its best if people share their experience both good and bad and should be encouraged. Canada painted a rosy picture and look whats happening now. I would encourage people to share real things so people can make informed decisions.
Well said, mate! 🎉
@externalbiconsultant2054 But I heard Switzerland is way more expensive country and by the way, how you manage to have a social life and how you cope up with this weather ? , and how much can one save in that country ?
@@externalbiconsultant2054 What language is spoken in Switzerland?
Just curious to know if they have taken Dutch citizenship already? What are opportunities for foreign country citizens (OCIs) for finding jobs in India? Thanks. Great session. Host is very calm & patient, allows guests to speak unlike other channels
Not sure on Dutch citizenship. From a practical purpose, opportunities are similar for OCI and Indian citizens. Thanks for the feedback.
@@DesiReturn I think the above question is a key one that would help for many people to know because citizenship and visa status is a huge deal and factor in moving countries. Maybe this can be asked each time (if the guest is willing to share of course)
@@archieravi11 Yes agree. We try to ask and get information if the guest is willing to share.
Hi, just to clarify something: in India, the “nice” teachers who are supportive towards students typically remain so only until the child is around five years old. After that, children with autism are often treated quite differently from their peers, though this can vary depending on the school. While there is easy access to therapies, advanced therapeutic treatments are still limited, except in certain places like Bangalore. Inclusivity in schools also tends to decline sharply compared to schools in the USA.
Thanks for sharing your insights. Is this based on some experience or input from someone close?
@@DesiReturn our son is on the high-functioning autism spectrum, and we were fortunate to find a very understanding ICSE school for him. He has a shadow to help him adjust to typical routines, and his main challenge right now is with higher-order language. We’ve also built a supportive community, with some kids in our building playing with him, which has helped.
When we started therapies, they were promising, but over time it became difficult to tell if they were addressing his specific needs. I met many parents whose kids didn’t find the right school or had hard time integrating to regular school and they eventually had to home school or send to special education schools.I’ve noticed that therapies in the USA seem more tailored to individual issues, whereas in India, they often feel quite similar regardless of the diagnosis (though I could be wrong). My advice is to thoroughly research the therapies before choosing one.
Thanks a lot for sharing so many details. This is very helpful for a lot. Really appreciate it.
Whatever is far it looks smooth but everywhere surface is rough when it comes to special kids and proper support for them.
Its better to try for sometime and understand the day-day dynamics for better decision if possible
Now Netherlands is very expensive with respect to Groceries, no one wants to talk about it why it raised just like that and Jumbo supermarket is super fast in doubling the prices .
Thanks for sharing your input!
having binge watched ur videos and living int he UK for 17 years ---what is the best age to movea. child to india.... i know it depends ---but is there a range ???
Glad you find them valuable. Better to move while they are still in primary school (till grad 5). There are families who moved when kids are in middle/high school. It depends on the kid. All the best.
great video!
Thanks for watching!
Western countries should remove the word "Kids" from their dictionaries and term it as "mini adults". They just want all kids to be highly independent with high self-emotional regulation.
Thats an interesting perspective!
I live in Europe and I must stress each country has its own culture. After having said that there is a huge emphasis on being independent.. they are extremely proud if the child is independent. If one looks at the big picture, to survive as an adult one needs to be independent in a very competitive society.. and not forgetting Dutch are very direct and take pride in being so.. it is always beneficial to learn the local language.. then you can understand their mentality and much more. The host country will not adapt to your culture, but it’s the other way around.. This is not a new phenomenon! Having good carrier chances lures people to the west , and very often people don’t inform themselves of their host country..
on the other hand in India, even when kids grow up, parents want to control everything from their love life to finances:) I think neither side is great. I live in NL and yes they expect kids to become very independent early here which I dont fully agree with (not at 12-16) but at the same time, I know children in India who find it very hard when they become young adults as they dont know how to do simple things like cooking, basic finances, etc. I believe a healthy balance is apt for many people. Just wanted to present a balanced perspective based on my experience
@archieravi11 I think all Indians living abroad are managing their lives well and progressing to a great extent....this is because of no loneliness in India ,upbringing,values and most importantly the exposure you get on this land....now things are changing due to media and western influence....Indians are copying westerners...
Extremely true
anyone who has a good job in india should not go abroad. India is much better.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Its important to for people to consider facts and look at net savings, family life, career progression and any relevant important factors before making the decision
What exactly is a good job (CTC 30 lakhs and inhand 15 lakhs per annum is a good job?) and how can you build your wealth with that good job in India?
World need to wake to the reality of "europe's best healthcare system".
I live in Netherlands with my partner and she has faced so much of incompetence from these doctors.
Thabks for sharing your experience. Hope she is doing fine now.
Why Indians are moving to Germany and Europe where most locals can't identified a Syrian refugee and a skilled Indian worker. Racism is at the peak in Europe now.
But US still to be the best for migration.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I dont see how this comment is related to this discussion. I disagree that we are treated like Syrian refugees etc but even if that is the argument, it needs to be made based on facts or self experience in a relevant context.
Nowadays parents being paranoid can harm children s development .Just guiding and being for them is enough. Healthy mind is important ,not unhappy achievers
True.
Is it just me or others think that host of the show looks and sounds like Karan Johar ?
😄
Considering moving.
.....after hearing your horror story if you haven'tived yet. Sounds selfish
Not selfish. We asked this question. Once they have some financial cushion, they want to move back.
@abhay just because you cannot come to Europe don't ask others to come back to india.is their wish
@@Commenter9120 been there more than a few times.I am more than comfortable here ty...
Get some life. Be sympathetic!!
@@SingaporeBuilds how about some sympathy for the child?