Look, we are dealing with an overpopulation. There is a shortage of everything here in the Netherlands: Housing (15 years waiting list for social Housing). Too high prizes for hosing. Not enough medical personell, hugh waiting lists for Dentists, Doctors, Psychologists and Psychiaters. We have let in too many immigrants, so we have a shortage of everything in any field. Our minister of Immigration, now wants to declare a 'crisis situation'. Have you not heard of that?
They sent my mother home 3 times the 4th time she was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. You need to be vigilant and keep records of your visits also replan your own appointments don't take no for an answer!
I still don't agree with your assessment of the health care system. The rest of your points I concur. I do want to make one more attempt. If you look at the output (average healthy life years and average age of dying) against the cost (Euros per inhabitant per year) the Dutch system is actually above average. Yes, there are countries with better health care, but that costs more. And there are countries wich are cheaper, but the health care output (see above) is below the Dutch standard. In short, it is not Walhalla, but it is OK.
Guys just to make it clear: She went to one of the most expensive supermarkets in the Netherlands. Edit: She is right about the rent part tho, house prices are way too expensive here
Albert Heijn is one of the most expensive supermarkets in the Netherlands. There is Aldi and Lidl, and Dirk van de Broek / Jan Linders that are cheaper.
Interesting video, but I really can’t recognize your complaint about the healthcare. Last Monday I had my yearly checkup and went through a whole row of blood, urine, longtests etc. My gp took the time to go through the whole list although nothing was wrong. My wife wanted an mri scan instead of the normal röntgen scan for breast cancer and got a prescription for that. Maybe you have to find an other gp and don’t look to much instagram posts.
Oh wow, a yearly check up in the Netherlands! If anyone reading this also gets to do proactive check ups in the Netherlands, please let us know. It's not something that is very common here so it got me curious.
Yeah, I also have yearly check ups and I pay €0 for it. Don't agree with this part of your video too. I also think you have to search for another gp, there are good and bad ones everywhere.
While I understand that it is in fact "possible", don't let your experience overshadow the vast majority of cases in the country. Having a good and understanding GP that will prescribe you these tests is extremely rare. Can it happen? Sure. But definitely not the norm.
Hey, great video! One thing to point, you mention the average salary of 44k/year. This is before tax, after tax this means about 35k/year (or abour 2900k/month). Many countries when they talk of salary they say the salary after tax so that may mislead some people 🙂
Regarding healthcare: I had a stomachache, and for four months, the GP tried various treatments but refused to refer me to a specialist for a gastroscopy, insisting on exhausting all options first. While I understand this is the protocol and the system is under strain, making wait times inevitable, it’s hard to accept when you’re in pain. I decided to drive 40 minutes to Germany and have the gastroscopy and a bacterial test done at a private clinic for 700 euros. Thankfully, it turned out to be a bacterial infection, and I was treated successfully with antibiotics. However, the doctor mentioned that many people from the Netherlands come with similar issues, and sadly, some are diagnosed with late-stage cancer. For everything else I love this country and the Dutch people ❤
WOWWW! This is crazy that you had to drive to Germany for it! I know that some tests are still possible to do in the Netherlands independently, I guess the one you needed is not? Anyways, good that it got treated in the end but I understand that the whole experience left a bitter aftertaste...
@@theselfishcodependent Unfortunately, for a gastroscopy, you need a referral from your GP, even if you want to have it done at a private clinic. My doctor refused to provide the referral, even though I was willing to pay for it myself. Thanks for your videos, and keep up the great work! ❤️👍🏻 Спасибо! 😉
you don't need extra vitamins, you don't needto take lots of medication when you are a bit sick. your body can cope with that like it has for thousends of years. eat healthy fresh food. and you will be fine. all those promtions for vitamines and medication bennifits the pharmacutical industry and not the people. if you are realy sick you need medication, otherwise, give your body the chance to heal itself. the more drugs and vitamines you take, the less effective they are when you realy need them. that is also why dutch doctors dont give you lots of drugs when you are not under the waether. and the have studied it for many years and often know it better fot you that what your guts tell you.
Oh interesting! I've heard that in Norway, nature is absolutely beautiful 🙌 and I can imagine that you miss the diversity that you are used to back home
When I go to the doctor and think it is serious and I want it to be checked by a specialist, the doctor sends me on, that's how I found out that I suffer from atrial fibrillation and I immediately go to work for it. examination and control of the hospital and doctor. I was even assigned my own cardiologist.
I love Dutch weather. Just compare it to places at the same latitude (52N). Would you prefer Northern Québec or somewhere in Siberia? I really don't think so😂
I'm not a weather analyst :D I just shared my experience in the Netherlands 😉 for some Siberia would be a great choice, the same as when one is watching this video they won't see an issue. Others would find it a deal breaker though. The point was to share how it is in the Netherlands, not provide an analysis of all similar countries.
@@theselfishcodependent for me Siberia would be great as well. It's just that most people (foreigners or Dutch themselves) have no clue why the Dutch weather is what it is. Similarly, they don't seem to realise that the winter isn't - 25C as on similar latitudes and the summer not ridiculously hot. No tornados, no hurricanes, and, believe it or not: less rain than in most countries surrounding it... Why? Simple, the lack of mountains. Also, climate change is making Dutch winters wetter...
I can agree with all other points but not about healthcare. The GP is the gatekeeper of the system so it his/her job to triage patients and only let real patients through to hospital or specialist. The system is preventive in case of vaccinations and education, but indeed not for expensive and unnecessary screening where hardly any health issue is discovered. Every foreigner is comparing to their home country circumstances, but in that case you shouldn’t go to another country. You are in a new country and it has a different culture. Deal with it, our system works. Health issues, if they need caring of, is discovered in almost all cases. Only not for fake patient complaints. By exaggerating your symptoms you are making the system unnecessarily expensive. And we don’t have a higher death rate or misdiagnosed cases than other countries. Don’t go to a GP for the flu, stay at home in bed until it’s over, let it run its course first, or ‘out-sick’ it like we say in Dutch (uitzieken). You’re giving the wrong impression to newcomers on this point.
@@theselfishcodependent "They only take you seriously when you are nearly dying". Really? Sounds highly biased (not to say completely untrue) to me. Also it is not based on facts, but on your anecdotal point of view. Try to do some research first on the topic on the topic of health care. Then you will find out how many preventive measures/research are taking place. Nothing wrong with having different perspectives/opinions, but try to stick to some factual information next time.
The GP shouldn't be a "gatekeeper". The GP should just be the first point of contact but having a gatekeeper in a healthcare system is dangerous. The Dutch healthcare system doesn't work, or at least it doesn't work in providing actual healthcare, it probably works in minimising the costs to the insurance companies (and even that I'm not sure since the insurance here covers so little). The "unnecessary" screening is a subjective statement but as for expensive it doesn't matter because you can't get a diagnostic exam even if you are willing to pay out of pocket completely. And there is definitely a much higher rate of missed stuff here exactly because the doctors will didmiss any and all issues that don't get solved with paracetamol.
@@InTimeTraveller That’s simply not true, the basic health insurance is containing almost all treatments and medication, some with an extra out-of-pocket amount. You can get a full body screening at commercial health institutions or abroad, but you’ll have to pay all the costs and travel yourself and so it should be if you go around the rules. And as stated, the system works (I didn’t say the system was excellent or better than comparable countries) and keeps the costs low, mis-diagnosises are no different than abroad and the same counts for healthcare deaths, compared to first world countries that is. In 2023 the Dutch healthcare system is ranked nr 5 in the Europe (before Germany, France, Russia or the UK) and nr 11 in the world (before the US, Australia and Canada). Sources: Statista, World Population Review, WHO, US News.
Hey can do a video on Apps for expats for meeting like meetups or couchsurfing. Another video maybe about dating in the Netherlands and how do people/couples meet. Thanks your videos are great and I love your accent lol
Thank you for watching the video! I actually already have the videos you proposed: - About dating women: th-cam.com/video/OJC4nQ2dDpQ/w-d-xo.html - About dating men: th-cam.com/video/31HkisGfZXE/w-d-xo.html - How to meet people: th-cam.com/video/gbY0VCKAEHo/w-d-xo.html
In reality a person pays closer to 66% tax in the Netherlands. Taxation is all over everything and many things are extra heavy taxed, like fuel. Because using fuel is evil, or so. Meanwhile, as common things are so expensive, 450,000 people (that is 1 out of 40) do not have enough money to buy enough food to live from. Amongst those are people with a regular job . . . I have no idea how that average income is there to be, around me, in my village, the average is lower then € 36.000,- per year.
Have you tried listening to stories that went well concerning healthcare? It seems to me you are only focusing on things that went wrong. And yes things do go wrong, sometimes dramatically, but these are still exceptions to the rule and the ideal system does not excist. In general we are more down to earth and do not go for extensive examinations and lots of medicine if not absolutely necessary. Some other countries do. And do not forget you are allowed to get sick and stay at home until you are better and do not get fired or frowned upon at your workplace, again unlike in some other countries.
Het probleem is indirecte communicatie. De meeste culturen op aarde communiceren indirect en de Amerikanen zijn kampioen indirect comminiceren daarom heeft ze problemen ze moet directer zijn
@@theselfishcodependent I have not taken it as a personal insult and ofcourse you are entitled to your opinion. However I know that if you complain about something everybody else can tell a worse story, that is how it works and it seemed to me that you only listened to bad stories whilst having a lot of bad luck yourself. It really is not as bleak as you describe it, nor is it so perfect everywhere else. And yes it is not custommary in this country to immediately get extensive examinations or lots of medicine, probably because such a system would be unaffordable for the state and we would have to pay a lot more which would cause a riot!
@@y.v.l.People share whatever they have experienced. Roughly 20% of responses on my Instagram are positive, I talk more about it here: th-cam.com/video/FTXdWQ66vvU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6rhkQoBTutJpwEBB
What are some other things you wish you knew about the Netherlands? 🤔👇
Look, we are dealing with an overpopulation. There is a shortage of everything here in the Netherlands: Housing (15 years waiting list for social Housing). Too high prizes for hosing. Not enough medical personell, hugh waiting lists for Dentists, Doctors, Psychologists and Psychiaters. We have let in too many immigrants, so we have a shortage of everything in any field. Our minister of Immigration, now wants to declare a 'crisis situation'. Have you not heard of that?
They sent my mother home 3 times the 4th time she was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. You need to be vigilant and keep records of your visits also replan your own appointments don't take no for an answer!
Jesus!! This is just terrible 😔 I'm sorry about your and your mother's experience 🫂
I still don't agree with your assessment of the health care system. The rest of your points I concur. I do want to make one more attempt. If you look at the output (average healthy life years and average age of dying) against the cost (Euros per inhabitant per year) the Dutch system is actually above average. Yes, there are countries with better health care, but that costs more. And there are countries wich are cheaper, but the health care output (see above) is below the Dutch standard. In short, it is not Walhalla, but it is OK.
Guys just to make it clear: She went to one of the most expensive supermarkets in the Netherlands.
Edit: She is right about the rent part tho, house prices are way too expensive here
Albert Heijn is one of the most expensive supermarkets in the Netherlands. There is Aldi and Lidl, and Dirk van de Broek / Jan Linders that are cheaper.
It depends on what you buy and if you buy it in discount
Interesting video, but I really can’t recognize your complaint about the healthcare. Last Monday I had my yearly checkup and went through a whole row of blood, urine, longtests etc. My gp took the time to go through the whole list although nothing was wrong. My wife wanted an mri scan instead of the normal röntgen scan for breast cancer and got a prescription for that. Maybe you have to find an other gp and don’t look to much instagram posts.
Oh wow, a yearly check up in the Netherlands! If anyone reading this also gets to do proactive check ups in the Netherlands, please let us know. It's not something that is very common here so it got me curious.
Yeah, I also have yearly check ups and I pay €0 for it. Don't agree with this part of your video too. I also think you have to search for another gp, there are good and bad ones everywhere.
same here
While I understand that it is in fact "possible", don't let your experience overshadow the vast majority of cases in the country. Having a good and understanding GP that will prescribe you these tests is extremely rare. Can it happen? Sure. But definitely not the norm.
Hey, great video! One thing to point, you mention the average salary of 44k/year. This is before tax, after tax this means about 35k/year (or abour 2900k/month). Many countries when they talk of salary they say the salary after tax so that may mislead some people 🙂
Indeed, thank you for bringing this up. :) Appreciate your support!
Regarding healthcare: I had a stomachache, and for four months, the GP tried various treatments but refused to refer me to a specialist for a gastroscopy, insisting on exhausting all options first. While I understand this is the protocol and the system is under strain, making wait times inevitable, it’s hard to accept when you’re in pain.
I decided to drive 40 minutes to Germany and have the gastroscopy and a bacterial test done at a private clinic for 700 euros. Thankfully, it turned out to be a bacterial infection, and I was treated successfully with antibiotics. However, the doctor mentioned that many people from the Netherlands come with similar issues, and sadly, some are diagnosed with late-stage cancer.
For everything else I love this country and the Dutch people ❤
WOWWW! This is crazy that you had to drive to Germany for it! I know that some tests are still possible to do in the Netherlands independently, I guess the one you needed is not? Anyways, good that it got treated in the end but I understand that the whole experience left a bitter aftertaste...
@@theselfishcodependent
Unfortunately, for a gastroscopy, you need a referral from your GP, even if you want to have it done at a private clinic. My doctor refused to provide the referral, even though I was willing to pay for it myself.
Thanks for your videos, and keep up the great work! ❤️👍🏻 Спасибо! 😉
you don't need extra vitamins, you don't needto take lots of medication when you are a bit sick.
your body can cope with that like it has for thousends of years.
eat healthy fresh food. and you will be fine.
all those promtions for vitamines and medication bennifits the pharmacutical industry and not the people.
if you are realy sick you need medication, otherwise, give your body the chance to heal itself.
the more drugs and vitamines you take, the less effective they are when you realy need them.
that is also why dutch doctors dont give you lots of drugs when you are not under the waether.
and the have studied it for many years and often know it better fot you that what your guts tell you.
Good to know how you view it. Thanks for watching the video and sharing your perspective
You sound...young. Please take your vitamins people. End of story.
@@chooselife1509 Just eat healthy.
I from Norway miss the Nature, Forrest, Clean Air. I live in the Randstad its dirty, filty, they need to clean the space up..
Oh interesting! I've heard that in Norway, nature is absolutely beautiful 🙌 and I can imagine that you miss the diversity that you are used to back home
lol feeling a bit homesick already?
Well go back to your Viking buddies then, please...
When I go to the doctor and think it is serious and I want it to be checked by a specialist, the doctor sends me on, that's how I found out that I suffer from atrial fibrillation and I immediately go to work for it. examination and control of the hospital and doctor.
I was even assigned my own cardiologist.
Sorry about your condition 🫶 but I'm grateful to hear that you've had a smooth experience. Hope it continues 🤞
I love Dutch weather. Just compare it to places at the same latitude (52N). Would you prefer Northern Québec or somewhere in Siberia? I really don't think so😂
I'm not a weather analyst :D I just shared my experience in the Netherlands 😉 for some Siberia would be a great choice, the same as when one is watching this video they won't see an issue. Others would find it a deal breaker though. The point was to share how it is in the Netherlands, not provide an analysis of all similar countries.
@@theselfishcodependent for me Siberia would be great as well. It's just that most people (foreigners or Dutch themselves) have no clue why the Dutch weather is what it is. Similarly, they don't seem to realise that the winter isn't - 25C as on similar latitudes and the summer not ridiculously hot. No tornados, no hurricanes, and, believe it or not: less rain than in most countries surrounding it... Why? Simple, the lack of mountains.
Also, climate change is making Dutch winters wetter...
I can agree with all other points but not about healthcare. The GP is the gatekeeper of the system so it his/her job to triage patients and only let real patients through to hospital or specialist. The system is preventive in case of vaccinations and education, but indeed not for expensive and unnecessary screening where hardly any health issue is discovered. Every foreigner is comparing to their home country circumstances, but in that case you shouldn’t go to another country. You are in a new country and it has a different culture. Deal with it, our system works. Health issues, if they need caring of, is discovered in almost all cases. Only not for fake patient complaints. By exaggerating your symptoms you are making the system unnecessarily expensive. And we don’t have a higher death rate or misdiagnosed cases than other countries. Don’t go to a GP for the flu, stay at home in bed until it’s over, let it run its course first, or ‘out-sick’ it like we say in Dutch (uitzieken). You’re giving the wrong impression to newcomers on this point.
@@RealConstructor thank you for sharing your perspective. I understand your point of view but I have a different one which I shared in my video. 😊
@@theselfishcodependent "They only take you seriously when you are nearly dying". Really? Sounds highly biased (not to say completely untrue) to me. Also it is not based on facts, but on your anecdotal point of view. Try to do some research first on the topic on the topic of health care. Then you will find out how many preventive measures/research are taking place. Nothing wrong with having different perspectives/opinions, but try to stick to some factual information next time.
The GP shouldn't be a "gatekeeper". The GP should just be the first point of contact but having a gatekeeper in a healthcare system is dangerous. The Dutch healthcare system doesn't work, or at least it doesn't work in providing actual healthcare, it probably works in minimising the costs to the insurance companies (and even that I'm not sure since the insurance here covers so little).
The "unnecessary" screening is a subjective statement but as for expensive it doesn't matter because you can't get a diagnostic exam even if you are willing to pay out of pocket completely. And there is definitely a much higher rate of missed stuff here exactly because the doctors will didmiss any and all issues that don't get solved with paracetamol.
@@InTimeTraveller That’s simply not true, the basic health insurance is containing almost all treatments and medication, some with an extra out-of-pocket amount. You can get a full body screening at commercial health institutions or abroad, but you’ll have to pay all the costs and travel yourself and so it should be if you go around the rules. And as stated, the system works (I didn’t say the system was excellent or better than comparable countries) and keeps the costs low, mis-diagnosises are no different than abroad and the same counts for healthcare deaths, compared to first world countries that is. In 2023 the Dutch healthcare system is ranked nr 5 in the Europe (before Germany, France, Russia or the UK) and nr 11 in the world (before the US, Australia and Canada). Sources: Statista, World Population Review, WHO, US News.
Switch to a better GP!
Hey can do a video on Apps for expats for meeting like meetups or couchsurfing. Another video maybe about dating in the Netherlands and how do people/couples meet. Thanks your videos are great and I love your accent lol
Thank you for watching the video! I actually already have the videos you proposed:
- About dating women: th-cam.com/video/OJC4nQ2dDpQ/w-d-xo.html
- About dating men: th-cam.com/video/31HkisGfZXE/w-d-xo.html
- How to meet people: th-cam.com/video/gbY0VCKAEHo/w-d-xo.html
Some studies say that biking is terrible for genitalia, so, what are you doing Dutch ladies and gentlemen?
Buy a better seat.
have more sex to compensate i guess
YOU ARE LIVING IN IT. WALHALLA ,!!!!
Als je na 8 jaar nog geen NL spreekt dan mag je van mij direct terug naar waar je vandaan kwam hoor . . .. a.u.b.
In reality a person pays closer to 66% tax in the Netherlands.
Taxation is all over everything and many things are extra heavy taxed, like fuel. Because using fuel is evil, or so.
Meanwhile, as common things are so expensive, 450,000 people (that is 1 out of 40) do not have enough money to buy enough food to live from.
Amongst those are people with a regular job . . .
I have no idea how that average income is there to be, around me, in my village, the average is lower then € 36.000,- per year.
Eindhoven!!!😎
Indeed, was filmed in Eindhoven!
Have you tried listening to stories that went well concerning healthcare? It seems to me you are only focusing on things that went wrong. And yes things do go wrong, sometimes dramatically, but these are still exceptions to the rule and the ideal system does not excist. In general we are more down to earth and do not go for extensive examinations and lots of medicine if not absolutely necessary. Some other countries do. And do not forget you are allowed to get sick and stay at home until you are better and do not get fired or frowned upon at your workplace, again unlike in some other countries.
Het probleem is indirecte communicatie. De meeste culturen op aarde communiceren indirect en de Amerikanen zijn kampioen indirect comminiceren daarom heeft ze problemen ze moet directer zijn
If I don't like the healthcare system here, it's not a personal attack on you. It's not even a universal truth, it's just my opinion
@@theselfishcodependent I have not taken it as a personal insult and ofcourse you are entitled to your opinion. However I know that if you complain about something everybody else can tell a worse story, that is how it works and it seemed to me that you only listened to bad stories whilst having a lot of bad luck yourself. It really is not as bleak as you describe it, nor is it so perfect everywhere else. And yes it is not custommary in this country to immediately get extensive examinations or lots of medicine, probably because such a system would be unaffordable for the state and we would have to pay a lot more which would cause a riot!
@@y.v.l.People share whatever they have experienced. Roughly 20% of responses on my Instagram are positive, I talk more about it here: th-cam.com/video/FTXdWQ66vvU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6rhkQoBTutJpwEBB
you give the impression that you are a hypochondriac