In VR I turn the "Use Mouse" option off. Which puts a static yellow crosshair slightly above centerline in my VR vision. I mapped right click/left click to two push buttons on the back of my throttle handles. I use the TDC slew controller "Press Down" as a modifier which also turns the left/right click into mouse wheel up/down. It's worked for me so far and is pretty quick. I might grab these though, definitely add's a level of immersion but I've got quite good at mapping a ton of shtuff using modifier buttons so my hands never really leave collective or cyclic. One thing about DCS man, the community never stops amazing me. They fix more issues and provide more features than ED or mods do most of the time. Thanks for showcasing them!
@@a.common.American I did this for a while, I took it a step further. I used voice attack, and a user named Bailey set up a cursor profile that with voice activation would move the cursor to a predetermined position. Example, I would say "cursor high", and in the right seat of a helo the cursor would go high left so I could toggle overhead switches without having to break my next, same with "cursor low" low and left for center console switches. The settings were configurable to customize where the cursor jumped to, until this now that was my go to way of doing it for helicopters. The community is what really pushed this game. Keeps it fresh.
@@thecow76 You're very welcome, they share a space for sure. This requires good hand tracking. While pointcntl will provide its own ir tracking for headsets with no tracking capabilities. Slugmouse is like a week lead time from order to delivery.
Interesting middleground between full immersion, and ease of access, and accessibility. I would wish for hands being tracked by the pilot models in game, though, and for the hands to snap back to the controls when you go back to them. It feels like this technology is in it's pioneering phase still, with different solutions being tested out everywhere. Looking forward to a good solid solution for the holy trinity of immersion, accessibility and easy use.
@@DirectorX59 I understand the need to move the arms. Hear me out, in VR my right hand rarely leaves the cyclic so that always looks normal to me. The left arm is usually just out of my fov so my mind never thinks why isn't my arm moving. This demo is used with the hands (gloves) turned off in the .Lua files, because they obstruct your view of what you are interacting with. Thus my brain sorts out the fact I don't see my hands moving. I don't see this tech too far from being capable, as with the quest they already implement hands overlays as an option. I'm so excited to see whats to come with VR. For sim gaming it really is amazing. I'm getting quicker and quicker with this mouse control. With proper haptics and vr settings with a good computer build. The mind really forgets its a game. My next step is motion. I'm ready.
@@demdirtyboyz247 I'm with you. I might actually look into this thing. Do you know if it's possible to disable one hand at a time in the files? But I think I know what you mean that you don't notice it, I never notice that my hands never leave the steering wheel in iracing when driving a stick. I might actually give this thingy a chance!
@@DirectorX59 So start by getting HTCC and try that, it works very well. Follow the guide and it's easy. As for the slugmouse, they turn off after 15min into sleep mode and when disabling hotplug in dcs they wake instantly. If I'm flying the Blackhawk or huey, I don't even wear the right ring. In the event I need my right controls I just use my pinch controls.
@@DirectorX59 Hi. If you want to order, you can contact me via the email address in the about section of my channel or via the link in the video description.
@@EvilOneGames Glad you liked it, you are very welcome. I'd suggest trying HTCC to see if you enjoy the idea of hand tracking and how it works. With time you get pretty good and it becomes a bit of muscle memory. HTCC is free.
its not? maybe I'm misunderstanding what this does, but it does not track your movement in space, correct? Like its a 3d printed case with a few buttons, a battery and a microcontroller.... Maybe this is more sophisticated, but the print itself would be a few dollars, a button and a battery maybe 10 bux in total, and some 10 bux more for one of the smaller bluetooth enabled microcontrollers like an ESP32 SuperMini.
@@Derubicon There are people whoa have made them. If you have the means go for it. The only current competitor sells a similar product for $200+ and currently sitting at roughly a 2 year pre order wait list. I was waiting, so I bought this and love it. I could just have waited another year... I personally had and have no interest in learning how to create my own. On the ED forums there are people who have made rings with 4 buttons, 2 buttons, etc that do the exact same thing, just never mass producing them.
@@demdirtyboyz247I have tried HTcC, but it only works with oculus link. Unfortunately I have no Sound in link, when using the experimental settings. When I switch to VDXR it's not working. Handtracking is off and data forwarding on... 😢
@@robertd57i989 The more I use them the more I'm finding they are a must have. I've jumped in to play quickly to test something and I find myself reaching for controls as muscle memory now.
@@demdirtyboyz247 nice. Yeah i have the quest 3 like yours and never tried hand tracking bc before i was in the hornet and it was pretty much easy setup before dropping bombs but the Apache is one of those "okay Bob, you got the hover?" "Hurry up and shoot! My nose itches" but having something on my left hand to actually use the little keyboard and everything will make my job easier. Btw what cyclic snd collective are you using? Im trying to find the best setup to use since my X56 Rhino is good for fixed wing but not so much for hovering and flight choppers
@@robertd57i989 I use the pro flight trainer puma. It's expensive, you can get one second hand for under $1000. I only fly helicopters so for me it's perfect. It's one unit, full pedals, brake, collective and cyclic. No re-entering spring so no need for digital trim. It's an amazing product after much use.
@@JamesW81 I belive it's an instant action called ground attack easy on Persian Gulf. I'll double check and get back to you. I'm like 90% sure that's it though.
@@demdirtyboyz247 haha, yeah I quite often just randomly fly around! I made myself a collective (3D printed parts and some pipe connected to a Bodnar BU0836) and I've disabled the centering spring in my Hotas to make it better for flying the Huey. Definitely improving the skills as now 28/30 landings don't end in a fireball or snapping the tail off!
I think a haptic glove or a pro HMD's hand gestures and tracking (Varjo) would work nice too. I do have a question: I've only one leg/foot, full mobility in it. Is there any pedals for flight that would allow me to use only one foot?
@@jaanikaapa6925 Hand tracking with cameras will be standard eventually in my opinion. The quest 3 has proved inexpensive and fully capable at this point in time. While I am not aware of anything designed for one foot use, I'd imagine anything that has a brake feature like toe brakes would be able to be bound to the opposite axis... for instance. My pedals are fixed to the collective and cyclic as one unit... however the left foot has capability to use yaw (anti torque for helos) left, and toe brake left, but I could bind toe brake left to yaw right... my pedals don't self center but if I had self centering pedals with toe brakes I'd have analog capability to bind both axies if that's makes sense.
I'd think if you added a toe strap to a normal set of rudder pedals that would work, no? Then you could push for one direction and pull for the other. You'd only have one toe brake, but those could be worked out with button bindings. Just an idea.
Really would like to purchase this.. Where do we buy it? Tried searching and didn't find a place to buy it... I live in the US if that helps... Thanks for the video.. really enjoyed it!
Tried LeapMotion tracking a year or two ago. It was totally useless, could not hit buttons and switches with any precise or consistency. And in combat you don't have time for failed button presses. But maybe it's worth looking into again with this Slug mouse on fingers...
Yup. But that’s not the fault of leap motion, it’s ED’s implementation of the hands. This is where the Slugmouse excels as it replicates the mouse buttons but on your finger. Combined with hand tracking of the leap motion and conversion to mouse movement with the HTCC, you get simple intuitive control of your cockpit without fumbling around for a mouse.
"And in combat you don't have time for failed button presses." Hence HOTAS..... Seriously. You are not suppose to be adjusting things when the combat starts. You need to be ready when you arrive on the combat zone. That is why HOTAS was developed, to make it possible for pilot to quickly get aircraft in combat mode and keep eyes outside. This is as well why if anyone looks example Su-27S cockpit in DCS, can see that LOT OF FUNCTIONS, are in anywhere else than HOTAS. Example the radar scan azimuth left/center/right is not anywhere on HOTAS. It is on own panel front of the throttle. The targeting modes like HMS, IRST, Vertical etc, they are not in HOTAS, they are in the same panel at front of throttle. To change those, pilot needs to move hand off from the throttle and press buttons and switches in front. But none of that is making the fighter bad. As so much is automated to just couple buttons or switches. And problem is that DCS doesn't model properly or correctly the Su-27S or MiG-29 systems and their logic at all, even in their super simple manner. Like example the stick has switch up/down for thumb, that choose BVR and IR missiles. When pilot switch from BVR to IR, the system change radar to vertical mode, or to HMS if it was activated. There is no such thing as "Switch weapons" in throttle, as that is "Switch Station". The pilot press it to select between what station to use if needs to override automatically chosen station. And then the IRST and Radar are always coupled. Pilot only choose in the panel that which one is the priority, and other is secondary. Both are constantly working and scanning, there is no selection which sensor you want to use. You just get all the targets and you choose your target and fight. No thinking required. This is as well reason why you can not notch a Su-27 or MiG-29, as you need to blind all systems, IRST + Radar + datalink. All are constantly working together, so when the target notches, its range doesn't change to you as it is beaming, it is irrelevant then to you. But the radar might be blind to find it, but IRST tracks it. So angular vector is constantly maintained and known, lock is not lost. And when the SARH missile is launched, you need to notch both radars, the Flanker/Mig + SARH, and you can't do that both. There is no notching those systems like on western ones.
@paristo "You are not suppose to be adjusting things when the combat starts, You need to be ready when you arrive on the combat zone." That's just not true. Bombing run on an FA18C, first using a Tpod to identify targets I can do all from the HOTAS, but I need to once arriving at target area switch between two sets of coordinates for each set of 4 JDAM's. I have to step between each of 4 stations and change to Too1 or 2. This is while the first set JDAM's are on their way. It is not done on the HOTAS IRL and the Slugmouse just make it so much easier than finding your mouse in DCS.
@@MaddogMike-444 "but I need to once arriving at target area switch between two sets of coordinates for each set of 4 JDAM's." IRL the JDAMS are already programmed. The pilots are not there to do any of that. JDAM is used for strike mission to known permanent location that doesn't shift after intelligence is gathered and mission has been planned and pilots takes off. The pilots has coordinates in data cartridge to input automatically all coordinates to JDAM. All that the pilots does when closing to combat zone is to confirm all is properly ready for release. You release all the bombs on the target area at once in ripple, and fly away. You don't use targeting pod, and most don't even have it installed in the flight. You literally don't push buttons out there and program things or try to find targets for your JDAM. That is why you have laser guided bombs if you need to have TOO capability on something. "It is not done on the HOTAS IRL and the Slugmouse just make it so much easier than finding your mouse in DCS." I have been 6 years now mouse/keyboard free in DCS, so you don't need to tell how great it is. I have been preaching the VR for over 9 years already. And I instantly back then removed the keyboard and usual mouse, moving to the finger mouse. I waited years that ED would implement the virtual hands to have any input capability, as it was only possible move hands in cockpit without any animations for couple years back then. ED could do few very easy changes to their hand tracking functions to make it super easy to use. How to example have right click, and left click. And how to have the pinch to adjust knobs and levers by grabbing them. The gestures would be almost totally functional each time. But it takes for ED years every time to get something simple done, meanwhile very simple things are implemented at slow pace.
I don’t use VR. Would this still be usable with a HOTAS & TrackIR setup? I realize I’d have to mount the tracking camera to my head somehow, but just wondering if this is worth trying.
@@bobcoughlan929 I believe this is only for hand tracking software. I'd imagine if you had a leapmotion tracker it would work but it'd be extremely expensive running upwards of almost $500, at that point you can afford VR. Otherwise I'd advise to reaching out to fredd from HTCC either through his hithub or his discord, you can check the link in the description to find them.
@@macmusica In addition to turning them off, you can opt to adjust the size of the gloves. Making them the size of the cursor even. If you need something larger to grab your attention and not block your view.
DCS can use hands. They look cool... but they just don't work. Fingers either end up crumpled or you spend an eternity trying to nudge switches. That's why, until ED develop something better, a clickable mouse device that is finger mounted is so far the best solution for immersion.
@@jamesmontgomery9464 It definitely varies depending on the headsets capabilities. I own several headsets. Hands down the quest 3 is the most amazing hand tracking headset I own. If you have a Quest 3, at least check out HTCC and see for yourself. It's one to one tracking if you have decent lighting in the environment. Otherwise honestly other headsets aren't quite there yet. With metas recent update handtracking is incredible. Future is bright for hand tracking.
I have a hp reverb g2 and swapped to index controllers with three base stations 100% worth it. Wish the resolution was higher though those pimaxes seem like a game changer for ww2 fighters when you can only iff visually.
@@b6s4shelter I do not believe so. However if you want to reach out to the developer of the HTCC software. There is a gitgub you can get to through the link in the description to get to the developer or his discord. However last I checked I believe it is not supported.
In VR I turn the "Use Mouse" option off. Which puts a static yellow crosshair slightly above centerline in my VR vision. I mapped right click/left click to two push buttons on the back of my throttle handles. I use the TDC slew controller "Press Down" as a modifier which also turns the left/right click into mouse wheel up/down. It's worked for me so far and is pretty quick. I might grab these though, definitely add's a level of immersion but I've got quite good at mapping a ton of shtuff using modifier buttons so my hands never really leave collective or cyclic. One thing about DCS man, the community never stops amazing me. They fix more issues and provide more features than ED or mods do most of the time. Thanks for showcasing them!
@@a.common.American I did this for a while, I took it a step further. I used voice attack, and a user named Bailey set up a cursor profile that with voice activation would move the cursor to a predetermined position.
Example, I would say "cursor high", and in the right seat of a helo the cursor would go high left so I could toggle overhead switches without having to break my next, same with "cursor low" low and left for center console switches. The settings were configurable to customize where the cursor jumped to, until this now that was my go to way of doing it for helicopters. The community is what really pushed this game. Keeps it fresh.
@@demdirtyboyz247 Same. Though I just use it to recenter cursor.
looks similar to PointCtrl but less the separate IR tracker module. seems like an elegant solution. thanks for sharing!
@@thecow76 You're very welcome, they share a space for sure. This requires good hand tracking. While pointcntl will provide its own ir tracking for headsets with no tracking capabilities. Slugmouse is like a week lead time from order to delivery.
Interesting middleground between full immersion, and ease of access, and accessibility. I would wish for hands being tracked by the pilot models in game, though, and for the hands to snap back to the controls when you go back to them. It feels like this technology is in it's pioneering phase still, with different solutions being tested out everywhere. Looking forward to a good solid solution for the holy trinity of immersion, accessibility and easy use.
@@DirectorX59 I understand the need to move the arms. Hear me out, in VR my right hand rarely leaves the cyclic so that always looks normal to me. The left arm is usually just out of my fov so my mind never thinks why isn't my arm moving. This demo is used with the hands (gloves) turned off in the .Lua files, because they obstruct your view of what you are interacting with. Thus my brain sorts out the fact I don't see my hands moving. I don't see this tech too far from being capable, as with the quest they already implement hands overlays as an option. I'm so excited to see whats to come with VR. For sim gaming it really is amazing. I'm getting quicker and quicker with this mouse control. With proper haptics and vr settings with a good computer build. The mind really forgets its a game. My next step is motion. I'm ready.
@@demdirtyboyz247 I'm with you. I might actually look into this thing. Do you know if it's possible to disable one hand at a time in the files? But I think I know what you mean that you don't notice it, I never notice that my hands never leave the steering wheel in iracing when driving a stick. I might actually give this thingy a chance!
@@DirectorX59 So start by getting HTCC and try that, it works very well. Follow the guide and it's easy.
As for the slugmouse, they turn off after 15min into sleep mode and when disabling hotplug in dcs they wake instantly. If I'm flying the Blackhawk or huey, I don't even wear the right ring. In the event I need my right controls I just use my pinch controls.
@@DirectorX59 Hi. If you want to order, you can contact me via the email address in the about section of my channel or via the link in the video description.
Very interesting.
For roughly $200 shipped, its not a bad price. Thank you for showing these! I might need to add them to my setup!
@@EvilOneGames Glad you liked it, you are very welcome. I'd suggest trying HTCC to see if you enjoy the idea of hand tracking and how it works. With time you get pretty good and it becomes a bit of muscle memory. HTCC is free.
its not?
maybe I'm misunderstanding what this does, but it does not track your movement in space, correct? Like its a 3d printed case with a few buttons, a battery and a microcontroller.... Maybe this is more sophisticated, but the print itself would be a few dollars, a button and a battery maybe 10 bux in total, and some 10 bux more for one of the smaller bluetooth enabled microcontrollers like an ESP32 SuperMini.
@@Derubicon There are people whoa have made them. If you have the means go for it. The only current competitor sells a similar product for $200+ and currently sitting at roughly a 2 year pre order wait list. I was waiting, so I bought this and love it. I could just have waited another year... I personally had and have no interest in learning how to create my own. On the ED forums there are people who have made rings with 4 buttons, 2 buttons, etc that do the exact same thing, just never mass producing them.
@@demdirtyboyz247I have tried HTcC, but it only works with oculus link. Unfortunately I have no Sound in link, when using the experimental settings.
When I switch to VDXR it's not working. Handtracking is off and data forwarding on... 😢
This is awesome. Just bought the Apache and this is going to be a must
@@robertd57i989 The more I use them the more I'm finding they are a must have. I've jumped in to play quickly to test something and I find myself reaching for controls as muscle memory now.
@@demdirtyboyz247 nice. Yeah i have the quest 3 like yours and never tried hand tracking bc before i was in the hornet and it was pretty much easy setup before dropping bombs but the Apache is one of those "okay Bob, you got the hover?" "Hurry up and shoot! My nose itches" but having something on my left hand to actually use the little keyboard and everything will make my job easier. Btw what cyclic snd collective are you using? Im trying to find the best setup to use since my X56 Rhino is good for fixed wing but not so much for hovering and flight choppers
@@robertd57i989 I use the pro flight trainer puma. It's expensive, you can get one second hand for under $1000. I only fly helicopters so for me it's perfect. It's one unit, full pedals, brake, collective and cyclic. No re-entering spring so no need for digital trim. It's an amazing product after much use.
@@demdirtyboyz247 does it have brakes on the pedals or just the pegs?
@@robertd57i989 Toe brakes. Works great.
I like it! Also curious, what is the mission you're in whilst flying the Huey there?
@@JamesW81 I belive it's an instant action called ground attack easy on Persian Gulf. I'll double check and get back to you. I'm like 90% sure that's it though.
@@demdirtyboyz247 sweet! Tyvm, I really do enjoy flying the Huey!
@@JamesW81 One of my favorite helicopters. Really enjoy flying it. I often just free flight for therapy flights.
@@demdirtyboyz247 haha, yeah I quite often just randomly fly around! I made myself a collective (3D printed parts and some pipe connected to a Bodnar BU0836) and I've disabled the centering spring in my Hotas to make it better for flying the Huey. Definitely improving the skills as now 28/30 landings don't end in a fireball or snapping the tail off!
wow!!!!
DCS needs actual hands like VTOL.
@@TheBoringCreatr Love VTOL VR, you can have the hands in DCS, I just prefer to change them to off in the .LUA file as they block the view sometimes.
I think a haptic glove or a pro HMD's hand gestures and tracking (Varjo) would work nice too.
I do have a question: I've only one leg/foot, full mobility in it. Is there any pedals for flight that would allow me to use only one foot?
@@jaanikaapa6925 Hand tracking with cameras will be standard eventually in my opinion. The quest 3 has proved inexpensive and fully capable at this point in time.
While I am not aware of anything designed for one foot use, I'd imagine anything that has a brake feature like toe brakes would be able to be bound to the opposite axis... for instance. My pedals are fixed to the collective and cyclic as one unit... however the left foot has capability to use yaw (anti torque for helos) left, and toe brake left, but I could bind toe brake left to yaw right... my pedals don't self center but if I had self centering pedals with toe brakes I'd have analog capability to bind both axies if that's makes sense.
I'd think if you added a toe strap to a normal set of rudder pedals that would work, no? Then you could push for one direction and pull for the other. You'd only have one toe brake, but those could be worked out with button bindings. Just an idea.
@@angryginger791 That's something I've been thinking about. :) Thank you. :)
Really would like to purchase this.. Where do we buy it?
Tried searching and didn't find a place to buy it... I live in the US if that helps...
Thanks for the video.. really enjoyed it!
@@toppernimble2710 Links in my description, comment or message Slughead on the forums.
@@demdirtyboyz247 Great.. thanks.. I see it now.. 🙂
Tried LeapMotion tracking a year or two ago. It was totally useless, could not hit buttons and switches with any precise or consistency. And in combat you don't have time for failed button presses. But maybe it's worth looking into again with this Slug mouse on fingers...
@@coRb77 I can't speak for the accuracy on the current leap motion, I know there's a new one 2.0... but the accuracy on the Quest 3 is spot on. 👌
Yup. But that’s not the fault of leap motion, it’s ED’s implementation of the hands. This is where the Slugmouse excels as it replicates the mouse buttons but on your finger. Combined with hand tracking of the leap motion and conversion to mouse movement with the HTCC, you get simple intuitive control of your cockpit without fumbling around for a mouse.
"And in combat you don't have time for failed button presses."
Hence HOTAS.....
Seriously.
You are not suppose to be adjusting things when the combat starts. You need to be ready when you arrive on the combat zone.
That is why HOTAS was developed, to make it possible for pilot to quickly get aircraft in combat mode and keep eyes outside.
This is as well why if anyone looks example Su-27S cockpit in DCS, can see that LOT OF FUNCTIONS, are in anywhere else than HOTAS.
Example the radar scan azimuth left/center/right is not anywhere on HOTAS. It is on own panel front of the throttle.
The targeting modes like HMS, IRST, Vertical etc, they are not in HOTAS, they are in the same panel at front of throttle.
To change those, pilot needs to move hand off from the throttle and press buttons and switches in front.
But none of that is making the fighter bad. As so much is automated to just couple buttons or switches.
And problem is that DCS doesn't model properly or correctly the Su-27S or MiG-29 systems and their logic at all, even in their super simple manner.
Like example the stick has switch up/down for thumb, that choose BVR and IR missiles. When pilot switch from BVR to IR, the system change radar to vertical mode, or to HMS if it was activated.
There is no such thing as "Switch weapons" in throttle, as that is "Switch Station". The pilot press it to select between what station to use if needs to override automatically chosen station.
And then the IRST and Radar are always coupled. Pilot only choose in the panel that which one is the priority, and other is secondary. Both are constantly working and scanning, there is no selection which sensor you want to use. You just get all the targets and you choose your target and fight. No thinking required.
This is as well reason why you can not notch a Su-27 or MiG-29, as you need to blind all systems, IRST + Radar + datalink. All are constantly working together, so when the target notches, its range doesn't change to you as it is beaming, it is irrelevant then to you. But the radar might be blind to find it, but IRST tracks it. So angular vector is constantly maintained and known, lock is not lost. And when the SARH missile is launched, you need to notch both radars, the Flanker/Mig + SARH, and you can't do that both. There is no notching those systems like on western ones.
@paristo "You are not suppose to be adjusting things when
the combat starts, You need to be ready when you
arrive on the combat zone." That's just not true. Bombing run on an FA18C, first using a Tpod to identify targets I can do all from the HOTAS, but I need to once arriving at target area switch between two sets of coordinates for each set of 4 JDAM's. I have to step between each of 4 stations and change to Too1 or 2. This is while the first set JDAM's are on their way. It is not done on the HOTAS IRL and the Slugmouse just make it so much easier than finding your mouse in DCS.
@@MaddogMike-444 "but I need to once arriving at target area switch between two sets of coordinates for each set of 4 JDAM's."
IRL the JDAMS are already programmed. The pilots are not there to do any of that.
JDAM is used for strike mission to known permanent location that doesn't shift after intelligence is gathered and mission has been planned and pilots takes off.
The pilots has coordinates in data cartridge to input automatically all coordinates to JDAM.
All that the pilots does when closing to combat zone is to confirm all is properly ready for release.
You release all the bombs on the target area at once in ripple, and fly away. You don't use targeting pod, and most don't even have it installed in the flight.
You literally don't push buttons out there and program things or try to find targets for your JDAM.
That is why you have laser guided bombs if you need to have TOO capability on something.
"It is not done on the HOTAS IRL and the Slugmouse just make it so much easier than finding your mouse in DCS."
I have been 6 years now mouse/keyboard free in DCS, so you don't need to tell how great it is.
I have been preaching the VR for over 9 years already. And I instantly back then removed the keyboard and usual mouse, moving to the finger mouse. I waited years that ED would implement the virtual hands to have any input capability, as it was only possible move hands in cockpit without any animations for couple years back then.
ED could do few very easy changes to their hand tracking functions to make it super easy to use. How to example have right click, and left click. And how to have the pinch to adjust knobs and levers by grabbing them. The gestures would be almost totally functional each time. But it takes for ED years every time to get something simple done, meanwhile very simple things are implemented at slow pace.
I don’t use VR. Would this still be usable with a HOTAS & TrackIR setup? I realize I’d have to mount the tracking camera to my head somehow, but just wondering if this is worth trying.
@@bobcoughlan929 I believe this is only for hand tracking software. I'd imagine if you had a leapmotion tracker it would work but it'd be extremely expensive running upwards of almost $500, at that point you can afford VR.
Otherwise I'd advise to reaching out to fredd from HTCC either through his hithub or his discord, you can check the link in the description to find them.
@@demdirtyboyz247 Thanks. I did ask the question on one of the guy’s videos but didn’t get a response. Perhaps I’ll try his Discord.
Can it not use the HANDS not a bloody pointer?
@@macmusica Oh it 100% can use hands, they are deactivated via .lua file due to the hands obstructing the view of the controls.
@@macmusica In addition to turning them off, you can opt to adjust the size of the gloves. Making them the size of the cursor even. If you need something larger to grab your attention and not block your view.
DCS can use hands. They look cool... but they just don't work. Fingers either end up crumpled or you spend an eternity trying to nudge switches. That's why, until ED develop something better, a clickable mouse device that is finger mounted is so far the best solution for immersion.
have a VR headset... its the lack of reliable hand tracking that keeps me from using it. thx
@@jamesmontgomery9464 It definitely varies depending on the headsets capabilities. I own several headsets. Hands down the quest 3 is the most amazing hand tracking headset I own. If you have a Quest 3, at least check out HTCC and see for yourself. It's one to one tracking if you have decent lighting in the environment. Otherwise honestly other headsets aren't quite there yet. With metas recent update handtracking is incredible. Future is bright for hand tracking.
I have a hp reverb g2 and swapped to index controllers with three base stations 100% worth it. Wish the resolution was higher though those pimaxes seem like a game changer for ww2 fighters when you can only iff visually.
I know this is in DCS, but would that work in msfs2020?
@@b6s4shelter I do not believe so. However if you want to reach out to the developer of the HTCC software. There is a gitgub you can get to through the link in the description to get to the developer or his discord. However last I checked I believe it is not supported.