Upgrading a Cessna 172 to be Stealth
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ย. 2024
- Can the Cessna 172 be stealthy? I do not know, but this is definitely one of the dumbest vids I have ever made.
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Echolocation with microwaves...
I throw my microwave at something and if I hear a crash, that means there's something there. Truly a marvel of science.
underrated comment
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After extensive research and testing, I can confirm this
I listen for the beep of the hot pockets being done to navigate to my 3am snack.
uhh, i dont think thats what they meant
Mmm, yes. Now I have something to do with all those cessnas we have laying around at the family field
The US Government is gonna be at your door either to hire you or to put you in jail
I don't think any of those parts would work here. It's an entirely different aircraft in every way.
@@johnshite4656 I don't think any part of the comment was serious
Gimme one
How much money for all of them
"Become impossible for ATC to detect. Cause havoc in Class B airspace. Get shot down by F-22s."
I love how all of the potential ideas were kinda smart/interesting and then the two dumbest got nearly twice as much votes as the other
What were the given ideas,I am dying to know hahaha.That’s the way it is,the dumber the more fun it is.
Thats democracy for ya
@@matosuhalj7033 0:49
@@matosuhalj7033/videos 0:48 - it's a lotta pausin and squintin but it's all there
I love democracy I love the republic
Once again we can fly into Moscow and land at red square like a true german
There is no Russia in the flyout game or America or Germany it's just a random island the creator made I think idk never flew far enough to see
Ok yes I'm aware of the joke that a guy flew a Cessna to the center of Moscow and was just trying to say that the flyout world is very much different from our world and that it probably isn't possible (I say probably cause of mods yea never know how will do it)
@A_Bird_With_A_Knife there is a whole earth and map...
Not our earth tho, you get what I mean
@@A_Very_Angry_Fish_With_Knife its called a joke
@@mikehi8214 dude, that's just a bird. They don't have jokes.
Late in the Vietnam War, the US Army operated the Lockheed YO-3 Q-Star. They were built like a glider with a small engine with a big muffler. They operate at night using an IR optics to hunted & tracked Viet-Cong . The YO-3 was so quiet that their victims did know they in danger until the AC-130 arrived.
*checks Quiet Star*
Wait, it looks strickingly like the Super Tucano! Except the part where it also looks like an intensely anorexic version of it LMAO
@@NothingXemnas Super Tucano 1st flight was 1999. Quiet Star 1st flight was 1969.
Quiet Start airframe is base on a Schweizer glider.
except the last half isnt really true. there were only 9 production craft ever built and they were only combat evaluation models. they only flew for less then 2 years and failed to impact the war.
Well nifty
They only used the night vision later on but 80% was straight observation. It was said to have flown as low 200 ft without being detected. Pretty cool
You’re gonna give the reformers ideas. “Oh you want stealth??? You don’t need an f35 we have the Stealthnessa”
Huh
The stnessa
The Susna
@@SteamWolf320 nice
A stealssna
Half of your stealth related videos being unlisted is kinda funny
Bro is a menace
They're not unlisted. They're just reduced visibility.
Do you have a playlist of then
@@MWSin1 God damn it.I came down here just to say that exact line
what stealth videos
2:38 That's Drake's tube he called dibs🥺🥺
This would be great for a business moving items internationally without paying taxes on them
You mean smuggling?
@@gabrielneves6602of course not, just a little plane bringing totally legal items from colombia for the us, right? Theres nothing wrong of course just plane, nothing to worry about
Multi-billion dollar multinational corporations - decades of research, and a trillion dollars for stealth fighter - "we finally did it, boys!"
Some guy in his living room with a good PC and aircraft modeling sim - "hehehe, cessna go 'shhh'!"
I've always wondered how an L-39 with delta wings would perform.
Also, as Bugs Bunny has taught us all, goblins don't exist, but gremlins do
Games are becoming incredible these days, even if they are not a perfect representation of reality.
"hehehe, cessna go 'shhh'!" is a top-quality line 🤣
L-39 is such a good plane
Just want to point out that although this may be a stealth aircraft, it's by no means a fighter as it lacks weapons, advanced sensors, and high performance
@@Roset595 That's the joke! But still, it's good that you commented because Poe's law.
A stealth GA plane does sound like something skunkworks engineers develop as a team building exercise or something.
7:04 "are you flying a f*cking mosquito" had me in stitches💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
yup. & it sure sounded like one... but it looks more like a squid...
10:16 the slight on war thunder community was absolute gold
I'm both impressed and concerned how the community just manages to leak classified documents like its a sport
@@harbour2118 That is because is more important for them to make the aircraft or tank to be more realistic...
To maintain its position as a utility aircraft i'm choosing to believe the stealth 172 has a frunk.
That's "Mission Payload" to ya, pal. 🤣
I'm gonna recreate the serbia situation on your stealth 172, just for the word "frunk."
18:34 I, for one, would love a video on radios and antennaes. Especially if you discuss them using an example antennae named 'Anteny." And if you do, please animate yourself petting an antennae on top of it's antenna cause it's a good widdle antenna receiving and transmitting all of dat data and information, yes it is, yes it is!
an antenna wrote this
Bros glazing antennas
You're talking about stealth paint reminded me of a quote from a documentary on the f-117. It went something like.... Why is the F-117 painted black? Because the fighter pilots didn't like the pastel blue which was more low observable at night. 😆
For real??? That's hilarious
Imagine just strolling in your pickup truck and see stealth cessna watering the field like an endgame farmer equipment 💀
Now we need a supersonic cessna 172
Good luck with that one
The XF-84H Thunderscreech proved exactly how bad of an idea a supersonic propeller aircraft was.
Boutta be the second loudest plane
"Half of them are unlisted" You mean undetectable on radar.
10:17 Russian spies: "GOD DAMN IT D:
War thunder moment
@@Goofyahh_shark play better game
Looking at bros comments you're a professional hater get a life and stop spending so much on your shitty hotas@@CSharpDCS
@@CSharpDCSthere isn’t one
@@KRDecade2009 dcs
1:35 I said that exact thing. The Corolla, more specifically, a tan, 1998 base model Corolla, being the most prevalent vehicle trim in existence to this day, and the 98' Corolla in general being the most manufactured, and most purchased vehicle on Earth, having never been outsold.
Yes🗿
what if cessna was stealth?❌
what if my dad came back from the store?✅
💀
Your dad is stealth level 100
True stealth
Reverse swept, inverted gull wing. No additional wings or canards. With engines like the A10. If you can make it stable that'd be insane
He has a video suggestions channel on his discord.
Just do it in ksp and there’s no problem. Ksp has interesting aerodynamics.
@@KerbalAddict yeah it literally just uses AOA to generate lift, so you can do some crazy stuff
So the Boeing bird of prey + Flying wing + A-10 + Su-47?
I fear no man, but that thing… It scares me.
For when the barest breath of stability is a dealbreaker
The plane we always wanted but never knew we needed
“Sir! We need to activate the Sam sites or else the Americans Cessna will disappear !”
“Hanz, I can catch up to it by running.”
“Oh.”
It's funny you say that almost every pilot has flown one or at least seen one. My dad used to take me flying in one all the time, I still remember flying out over Morten Bay and Morten Island on winters mornings. That was the best time of year to do it, the water was crystal clear and barely had a ripple. We'd see rather large sharks, whales, dugongs and fish, then we'd fly at around 50-150 ft. off the beach. It was so much fun. When I was 7 he let me fly the plane, but not that low or over the land and only for a short time. When I was 10 he let me land the plane, but not down near Brisbane, it was when we moved to Cape York we, we took off and landed at a friends cattle farm.
My old man was an instructor so that helped, but he taught me to fly 152's 172's and 185's. Eventually I had a few hundred hours of flight time (not solo, I was still early teens by this stage).
For so long it was a dream of mine to become a fighter pilot then a commercial pilot... sadly as it turns out being completely color blind kind of limits your options. I still remember going through recruitment and passing all the tests, but after having my medical the recruiter looked at the results and shook his head, then stamped my file with a stamp that said CP3 and said "this will follow you for the rest of your career". He was genuinely sad about it but I could not think why... then I found out why, the military frowns upon it's pilots being monochromatically colour blind. Oh well, what you gonna do about it?
I sub'd and left a like, I really enjoyed the video.
What wound up happening?
@@aegiselectric5805 Life I suppose. I went and did something stupid; I enlisted in the army. I wanted to be an infantryman like my grandfather, but was told I couldn't (even though I was midway through basic and I had been told I could...). I was a qualified marine mechanic at that stage, so if I could join the Royal Australian Engineers like my uncle. They said no, because I was colour blind (try to make sense out of that...). I couldn't even be in transport corps. But anyway a long story short, I left the military, got married and had kids.
But I've never flown again, not in private or commercial aircraft, last time I flew was on a DC3 (yes, I am that old lol) from Weipa to Cairns when Air Queensland still operated (got to briefly fly that too a few years prior to that). Sometimes I think 'what if this or that?', but you can't.
I fully understand not being able to fly commercial aircraft, but private VFR rated I honestly cannot. But rules are rules, there are people out there that have it worse than me. And not being able to fly is not really the worst thing in the world.
Cheers have a good one mate.
@@XanderAU_Quokka_M.D thanks for the reply, I found reading that very relaxing for some reason.
That sucks, I'm glad you found a good place in your head about it all.
That sucks. In the US, if you can at least tell which shade of grey is supposed to be which real color, you can still get a civilian pilot license.
I saw the stealth Cessna post on the Flyout subreddit. Why does it look unironically good? Like the sharp blade-like shape of the wings looks so good.
It does look good
It doesn’t it looks freaking horrid, you’d get a horrible return on that wing strut 💀
@@StroopWaffel Nuh uh
@@Axolotl_2347 Buddy I work at Lockheed and I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering lmao
@StroopWaffel you do it better then.
Bro we need a seizure warning or smth at 16:30 lmao. My eyes were not prepared for that
same that hurt a bunch.....
Ho-229 slander! yesss! 😈😈😈
Radars use all kinds of wavelengths. Ground usually being longer. They all have their pros and cons. All radio is non-ionizing. Microwave just means you’re in the GHz range. You’re 2.4Ghz WiFi and Bluetooth devices operate at the same frequency as a food microwave. That’s why the FCC made it a license free frequency, because it’s so dirty. The F-35 introduced millimeter radar that can basically see the shape of its contacts. 3 things you can do with radar is reflect, absorb, and refract. Basically any metal reflects like a mirror. Use that to send it in another direction. You can absorb with loop antennas of the right length and a load. Probably the most difficult unless you use a laser etched fractal pattern foil wrap on top of an insulator. Refract can be done with jagged metal dust from copper, silver, or gold. Then somehow align it where all the pointiest bits are facing out. That’s like comparing a mirror to a sheet of paper in a perfect application. Probably more like fog on a mirror. That’s all just theory from my basic radio spectrum knowledge.
Ah yes measuring radar return in bdsm
One thing I could see this being extra usefull for could be search and rescue operations in hostile enviorments
Up next, Messier 82 will turn a VW Beetle into an Infantry Fighting Vehicle.
The part about the F15 being loud is insanely true
AEROSPACE ENGINEER HERE: Love it.
Never seen your channel before but this is fabulous.
I do have 1 question which I am certain you have an answer for but it wasn't mentioned in your video.
How did you deal with the C.of.G issue from moving the engine from the nose to the aft?
Its Ok if you simply fudged it at this point, but its the sort of thing you should point out.
FYI - I have private pilots license and YES I did a significant amount of my training in C172s.
If you take "fit for purpose" as the prime criteria then the C172 is arguably one of the finest engineering designs ever and that's across all fields. So we are clear in this context "fit for purpose" means _"What is the intent of this design? As in what is it meant to do and how is it meant to be used and can it be maintained to keep doing that task?"_
Build Idea: a flying boat style powered lift air tanker for the US Forest Service and the Smoke Jumpers. I realize the Osprey, once more are built and more Osprey pilots enter the civilian work force the USFS and other fire fighting services might adopt the Osprey, but it would be nice if we had a civilian version that was more readily available.
How soon before the CAP starts begging the Air Force for one and then uses it to just violate traffic patterns and be a reckless endangerment to the local air traffic?
whats the cap?
Civil air patrol
As someone who was (and technically still is, I have the card) in CAP, I would love to give ATC conniptions with this thing.
@@RavenWolffe77Having a CAP card doesn’t still make you a member. Unless you have your Billy Mitchell award the card is not usable.
6:55 “Are you flying a fucking Mosquito? PRESS IDENT!” ROTF;L!!!
7:15 “Affirmative!!!”
I could see this having real battlefield recon and intel roles. The MIC would be proud of you.
My grandfather owned and then rented a 172, he took me flying in it and even taught my mom to fly in it for a short time... seeing one being converted into a stealth plane is both weird and yet satisfying to see.
Bro should not be allowed to call himself something else than Messier82 as long as that is his channel name, Messier82 is superior and his favourite.
7:02 "are you flying a fucking mosquito?" I don't know why but this is the funniest shit
18:11 dude i love it when you yap about radios and antennas I literally subscribed for it , dont cut it off next time ;c
Idk how I stumbled upon this but I love it, also the game looks incredibly complicated. I like you’re nonchalant but obviously very knowledgeable tone
Definition of insanity
"This Cessna will be Yum I'm So Full From Parallel Lines" This made me laugh so hard I was not ready for it
This is unironically a good stealth aircraft, to the point that i wonder how many nations have the technology to detect this goofy aircraft under normal peacetime conditions. Hey, maybe you could do some WW1 bomber tactics and throw hand grenades out the door lol
Thank you Messier 82 for bringing me back after your videos to Flyout to build some absolutely useless nonesense that hardly flies
Ok, this is funny af. I'd love to see this IRL, but obviously it won't happen. It'd be hilarious if it did though.
Also, 6:56
"Are you flying a fuckin mosquito? Press ident" 🤣🤣 (I think that's what was said, anyway)
Oh my god, that killed me. I was laughing at that damn near the rest of the way through the video 😂
I could see this concept being used in a futurisctic war film where small stealth planes are cheap and used in huge quantities to overcome enemy air defenses
Considering the Ukrainians flew one of these 1000km into Russia to destroy a refinery they would likely be salivating at the thought of a stealth variant
The use of decibels to measure radar returns isn't an analogy. Decibels are well known for being a unit in acoustics. But decibels represent a relationship of values, not a physical quality. Both acoustic signals (sound waves) and electronic signals can be described using dB because both phenomena follow the same power relationship. Radar ultimately comes down to electrical signaling. The magnitude of return signals, the noise floor, and the sensitivity can all be measured in dB. I'm not an electronics engineer, but I work with a lot of musical and audio equipment that requires an understanding of these things. The same principles can apply to a radar, just for a different purpose.
Hello! You are 100% correct here. However, approaching it as an analogy is much more friendly to a broad audience. Regardless, thank you for your insight!
I never knew I needed this, but now it’s a must in my life #ufbforever
Keep in mind that secondary reflection and edge wave diffraction contribute a lot to radar return. A reverse teardrop is actually quite unstealthy because the radar hugs the surface and then emits directly back from the point for example, basically turning it into an antenna.
7:25 I thought he was gonna say, "God didn't intend for this aircraft to be made."
I was gonna be like "why hasn't someone tried doing this" and remembered UAVs exist and would probably be cheaper than converting a 172 lol
stealth cessna 172 before GTA VI is crazy
Maybe someone already has mentioned this, but stealth/LO aircraft are designed without any 90° angles. When you look at two mirrors at 90° to each other, you will always see yourself. Same goes for radar. This includes any flaps, ailerons, intakes, stabilizers, etc. Radar electrifies the metal skin of planes and even trailing edges will cause reflections. If you see this, tips for next time!
How hard is Flyout? I am a War Thunder player with decent knowledge of aircraft but it looks hard and complicated. Is there a community for asking questions?
Its not too hard imo. ~600 hours
read the description
yeah i also play war thunder and im buying the game today. ill let you know
I was in the same position its hard but when you figure it out you'll be ok
Same bro I hope my knowledge of ksp will help
stealth paraglider pls
We don’t need Jeff right? Or we need him
Can we scale up (or gang together) those piezo-electric non-rotational lab equipment fans for this?
This was wholly interesting.
I would love to see this treatment on the A-10 airframe.
Can only imagine how that’s going to look like.
Good luck covering those engines 😅
6:56 are you flying a mosquito?
7:19 LOL😂😂😂
Add a tactical nuke, m2 browning, some homing launchers, and perhaps a jet engine and you got a light bomber that can fight helicopters, tanks, big planes, and even jets
Petition for ununlisting all of your unlisted videos
I did a bit of my pilot training in 172, gotta be one of my most favorite planes to fly.
So will you be putting a picture of Bo in all of your empire of bo war planes yea know to remind the pilots what they are fighting for
If a B-2 has the radar cross section of a frisbee, and an F-22 has the radar cross section of a bumblebee, then a stealth Cessna must have the radar cross section of an ant. 🐜
Wait wait wait…. The Cessna produces as much thrust as your average lead climber’s fall generates what the heck
"I want a stealth aircraft"
"We have stealth at home"
Stealth at home:
Don’t care what place I’m in
All I know is that I shouldn’t be up rn 😂😭
Lockheed Martin rn: *write that down, write that down!* ✍️
Still stealthier than the Su-57
Cool video !
Your narration made my day 😂
(My afternoon at least)
U might have motivated me to try flyout in an unknow future :)
Still better than the SU-57
Impressive…now let’s see stealth hot air balloon
This is getting out of hand
you should license that idea so hard... god damn this little nightingale ass mosquito recon goes so hard
I am learning so much about stealth from you! Cheers Cessna looks great.
First video of yours I’ve seen! This is super neat and now I wanna play this game lol. Also you should do a video about the Horton 229 and how its materials and shaping would have worked against ww2 era radar! From what I understand it wasn’t meant to be a stealth aircraft, but between the engine location, flying wing airframe, and wood construction, with iron oxide based paint pigments, it would have been surprisingly stealthy!
Oh damn I'm finally gonna have to drop Simpleplanes and try to learn how Flyout works, I didn't realise you could do stuff as cool as this video
Imagine the power of a loud, slow and low flying plane that can not be seen by radar!
Oh, wait 😂
This is the most wonderfully cursed project I have ever seen! And thank you for gracing us with its presence.
NYC Radar Operator: Wait- I thought It was a cessna flying in, not a bumblebee.
2:20 This is literally what AFSOC *just* did with the Air Tractor 802s lmaoooo
Also, please make the radio/RT video, thatd be fun
The American military industrial complex... shows a British Aerospace Systems logo 😂
"Are you flying a fucking mosquito?" this fucking killed me
9:40 wowowowowowo
You telling me imma f*** the radar up if I’m leaving my microwave running open and in radar direction?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0:57 Messier 87, the cigar galaxy :3
You want to crash and hope none to find you. 😂😂😂
Stealth mode activated.
Cessna engineers be like, "Write that down! Write that down!"
What could have been maybe even more relevant to actual military use as for currently, you should do a stealth model for somwthing like the AT-802U
Holy shit that thing doesn't have any right to be as cool as it is!
10:10 I recognize the music choice, very nice.
"Bds . . . No i mean bds *sigh* . . . dbsm" killed me bro, bdsm is just so natural aint it
The entire US MIC: "WRITE THAT DOWN!"
plane designers and constructors
- write that down, write that down !
hey that Hacienda branded 172 picture at the beginning, I think that was the one hanging in the Vegas airport, where they set a record for longest flight by refueling it with a truck and a long hose. It's a cool plane to see while you're drunk as hell waiting for your flight back from Vegas- they have a second floor loungey zone where oyu can see it up close.
The paint detailing was a cool idea, really goes a long way to make it seem like a more believable craft
Stealth Cessna could be used for recon over hot zones. Not full theater coverage, but on an operations level. I mean the military did turn a cropduster into an attacker so...
Lockheed Martin be watching this video and thinking: "Guys... how about a new stealth scout plane?"