2024 Honda Fireblade vs CBR600RR Review | Is one worth twice as much?
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- 2024 #honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP vs CBR600RR #review - both have been significantly update for 2024 and both are heavily track-oriented but with the Fireblade costing more than twice as much as the 600, and making almost 100bhp more, does that make it twice as good?
Michael went to Portimao in Portugal for a couple of 20-minute sessions on each.
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➡️ 2024 Honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial...
CHAPTERS
00:00 - Welcome montage
00:42 - Intro, overview and price
05:52 - CBR600RR spec
10:11 - Fireblade spec
15:25 - Track footage
16:50 - New Ohlins suspension demo
21:43 - Havier Beltran interview (BSB & TT)
25:37 - Conclusion
31:30 - Outro montage
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The Blade is my dream bike but I’ll gladly settle for the 600, that under-seat exhaust is just sexy
600 all day long 👍
Good choice. For a bike that looks so similar, the changes have turned it into such a modern day bike.
Just really happy to see Kawi and Honda keeping the sportbike/superbike inline-4 alive and well. I was personally hoping Suzuki would somehow make a new GSXR750 but I’ve given up on that dream. I ended up buying an RS660 in 2022 because I thought I’d tour a lot but wanted 90% of the feel of the 600cc class bikes I grew up loving. For me, I think I’d be interested in seeing what Honda does for a bit of a refresh off this bike in 2-3 years…maybe they’ll do a style refresh and bump a couple HP up. Something to consider I think.
Personally, I prefer air-cooled inline 2-valves.
Plenty quick enough for the road, low maintenance, with centre stand.
Like Gpz1100 for instance.
Of these two, I'd take the 6.
No-one needs a litre anymore.
In as much as owning a Fireblade has always been something I’ve desired even with 40 years in the saddle I still don’t posses the skills to use all of it on a track and there are no roads to do that on sanely with traffic basically ignoring us as is. Price notwithstanding. The 600 I have run the beans out of on more than one occasion and that’s enough for me but to own a Fireblade still remains a passion for me.
Great comment. The Fireblade is certainly a machine that only a handful in this world would ever get close to using all of. I think I used the expression "refined agression" in my write-up mainly to describe the potential for being too quick and too able for mortals to ride, but the electronics allow us to think we're within touching distance.
If you ever do have a spin on one, do let us know/
Cheers, Michael
I barely posses the skills to safely ride myself to the corner shop but that still didn't stop me getting ( an old ) Fireblade and absolutely loving it. You only live once.
@@ianclose123let’s hope you underplayed your skill levels or it will be YOLO (for a short time).
@@bennettsbikesocialMichael I understand why the FireBlade must have electronics but the CBR 600RR still only makes 119 bhp and 50-odd ft/lbs so why does that 600 need electronics?
My 2008 CBR 600RR with aftermarket Öhlins suspension and no slipper clutch is agile and easy to control, already.
It wheelies at Portimao between turns 8 and 9 in second but drops the front before turn 9 so no wheelie control required!
@@lonpfrb I'd encourage you to try them back-to-back. I don't know how you ride but 119bhp can still get you into trouble! 16 years of Honda-related development compared to your machine must have some effect on the bike. It's up to you to interpret if that's a good thing or not.
The 600 is good value in todays market, the Blade is stunning but nearly 24k is not realistic for most people as a weekend toy and never going to get the benefit of its power on the road
600s are easier to find peak torque and power mid turn for most corners in 2nd and 3rd gear. On a litre bike 3rd gears peak torque and power is too high for most corners so you are limited to 1st and 2nd gear mid corner. But 1st gear is very twitchy just like it is not recommended for beginners to do wheelies in 1st gear. The advanced electronics make litre bikes perform like 600s mid corner, so the 600s dont need the expensive electronics because they already handle like 600s and get more useful engine braking from the higher revs. You only need a 1000 to get ahead on the straight but realistically not many race tracks have straights long enough to be at 300km/h for very long. So you only need a litre bike to have an slight edge on accelleration in a straight line but 600s are still more fun throughout the entire curve. On the street 600s are way more fun banging through the gears whereas the 1000s on the street barely make it out of first gear. For half the price id definitely get a 600 but if 1000s were cheap i would get one just to flex on the supercars because everyone wants something more powerful than a porche or ferarri. Its something we can afford, pal. And screw everyone who encourages people not to ride sport bikes because naked bikes are more comfortable. They ruined the bike market.
Sounds like you need to stick to 600's
To each their own
@@patmartin4411 Sounds like you need a Liter bike to be fast because of lack of skill 😉
@SystemAdministrator1 blahahaaaa
Started on a 600 when I was 16
Much older, and many bikes later fella
Again, Blahahahaaa
@SystemAdministrator1 also, if you knew better, it takes much more skill to be fast on a liter than it does a 600, as liters are far more powerful, hence dangerous, especially on streets.
If liters scare you, it's OK. Thet aren't for everyone. Stay in your lane
@@patmartin4411 Your comment is too vague that I am uncertain of the point you were making. At first I thought you were saying you had a superior understanding of the subtle intricate details which differentiate the supersport and superbike categories. But now I know you were just trying to flex by showing off telling people you ride a 1000 🤣. Thats one of the points I made in my comment. You also said you are an old man now which is kinda sad thinking of an old man flexing on a litre bike trying to look cool in front of kids and speaking the way you do. My 2016 r6 is probably more powerful than the litre bikes you rode in the 70s. But if you are as cool as you say you are, I wont argue with that. Not many people in this world have that kind of experience unless they race professionally or spend a fortune on track days. So if you are at that level I respect you.
The 600RR is twice the fun on a track for the average rider of today. Most people can't push 100% on the 600 let alone the Fireblade. Electronic control be damned they're too afraid of the throttle.
If I could have a new 2024 600RR I'd request one without a slipper clutch and a mode that turns all electronics off. I'm old school. I still control the clutch and wheel speed manually. It's ingrained in decades of muscle memory and it's not going to change.
Tell the camera bike to speed up a bit. The riders are struggling to ride so slow as their lines are all over the place. It's like following your elderly grandmother....lol.
Great in depth review
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
I remember years back I was loaned a CBR 600 while my bike was in having work done I was riding a GSX11 and riding away on the CBR it did not feel like half the size. It went really really well until...I went to overtake on the motorway and opened the throttle in top gear. The GSX11 would just surge forward but the CBR... Nothing happened!! Took a couple of down changes and then took off like a rocket. That's the only way you could tell the size of the engine. Fantastic bike in my opinion
600 for me on roads, 1000 for track only👍
im reverse, I like using under 150hp (600cc) for track and liter bikes for the canyons
@@hby7768hahah ! Makes sense.
Are you a competent rider or just copying other much competent riders' opinion??
Great vid
Most kind, thanks!
I love the look of the underseat exhaust!
Absolutely addicted to liter bike power
600cc would be enough for me on UK roads, I reckon.
600 on roads? grunt and torque begins after 10k rpm? Have cbr650, it is way better on roads.
@@paul-ku Good comment. I already have a CBR650F and a CB750 Hornet. I want a CBR600RR just for fun days when I want more top end excitement. The Fireblade will do about 110 mph in 1st gear, so although it is a tremendous machine, the fact that I couldn't rev it out in any gear on the road is a bit of a deal breaker for me... I'm not really interested in jail time, a big fine, losing my licence, re-test when I get my licence back, then sky high insurance for the next 5 years, lol. My CBR650F will do about 59 mph in 1st gear, so I can rev it out in the 1st two gears and give it some in 3rd if I'm feeling a bit naughty, without being seriously illegal. I think that the CBR600RR would be similar to this, just with a higher red line, and quite a bit quicker to accelerate. What do you think?
More than enough, more fun also👍
You don’t buy a motorcycle cause it’s “enough”. You buy one cause it’s awesome.
@@EscapePlan97 nah, i buy them to ride the nuts off them, most can't ride to save their lives, literally. 30 years experience.
I sold my CBR600RR for a Fireblade way back in 2006 and regretted it. The Fireblade was just so fast and had so much grunt it scared me witless on French roads. Such a weapon but the power was too accessible to be safe on the road.
im Riding a 650r RN but wanted to buy the 600 or fireblade whats more comfortable etc. because im only 169 cm tall and the 650 is basicly my daily for the summer
Give me the 600 with track fairings. More fun and less destruction of tyres.
Great bikes...in looks n features...i rather a 600 wit less electronics tho...just me...
Wouldn’t want either for the road. Track bikes sure.
You guys are mind readers for sure😮 today actually i was thinking if i really need the Fireblade as my only and daily ride, I have been waiting for the 2024 Blade to be available but i think logically the 600RR is an absolute bargain when it comes to looks and value.
Do let us know which way you go and how you get on, please.
Cheers, Michael
@@bennettsbikesocialmy pleasure, but that won’t happen until you guys test ride these bikes on road and give us your feedback, really appreciate your efforts and honest opinions.
When will they be in the uk dealers ?
Very soon. Should be next month for both.
Both is cool..
Test drove the Ducati Panigale V2 last weekend and want to get a new bike cause my old 2001 Daytona is just not the thing anymore.
Cant decide between Panigale V2/V4 Speed Triple RR and the new 2 Honda CBR´s
panigale 👌
What will you be using the bike for? Road use only, or any track time?
Cbr
Same but I ended up on an Aprilia 660 Tuono factory. Too many horror stories of roasted balls on the V2/V4 for street riding.
@@Xolitionshouldn't be a problem in the UK where the temperature doesn't go above 14°C lmao
Fireblade all day long 👍🏻
There is no comparison in the power & torque of a 600 vs 1000 , years ago you worked you way up from 80 cc to the big stuff in a few years , I had a 97 gsxr 600 new then & in 99 I test rode a fireblade I bought a new one in 99 there was no going back , the thrill of a bigger bike out weighs that of a 600 every time
The RSV4 is my dream bike but the CBR 600 seems more realistic
I'll have both please
Just placed an order for the 600, without actually seeing the thing. Does anyone know, does it have a fuel gauge ?
Sadly, no fuel gauge. Honda is tripping this time
😂
You would think so, but no.
All those fancy new features and tech, and they couldn't bother to have a fuel gauge on the tft display !!
Lazy, and short-sighted, Honda. Sickening.
In malaysia the 600 costs 23k uk pounds
I ordered a 600 , but has a 6 feet 2 , will i fit ? by the comments i read here . . . price / quality its amazing on the 600 , and the center exhaust is just TOP
If you already ordered then it doesn't matter if it fits or not
Went out for a spin on the bike today. Where I am in the UK both of these would disappear into the massive potholes that we have on our cr@p roads. 😢
Loool
We get a CBR1000RR priced ($16,699) between these CBR600RR and CBR1000RR-R in the US.
Good observation
FIREBLADE 👑👑👑
600RR ftw!
Good video, but you never answered the question posed in the title and sat on the fence!
What do you think? If I had the money then the Fireblade - it's so technically advanced, and bloomin' quick. But the 600 makes for an excellent option if £10,500 is your max budget.
I’d like to ride both to see😹
I’ve ridden earlier incarnations of both, I think the 600 is an absolute bargain at £10500.
But, I don’t believe the Blade is twice the bike, so I’d go for the 600 unless money was no object!
They both look awesome, but I am a totally biased Honda fan👍
@@mattbikes46 The electronics on both are a real step forwards. The Fireblade''s gear ratios and twin throttle bodies make a big difference, while the 600 is a gem to ride. It'll be interesting to see how they compare on the roads, and where we're tring to compare apples and pears, the answer really is - what would you want to do with them? As with an earlier response, the Fireblade has the potential to make you look and feel incredible but it, like any sportsbike, should be ridden by those with experience (my pet hate when I see Lamborghini's, Porsche's and Ferrari's being driven by rich kids with no idea how to handle the power). Cheers, Michael
Agreed on the roads, will be interesting. Also be good to test the Blade against the S1000RR.
You’re 100% right about learning on smaller bikes, I learnt to ride on track on a 600 was the best thing. The 1000 makes me so lazy, when I jump back on the 600 it’s makes me ride or properly again!
@@mattbikes46 Hoping to have a blast on both bikes at one of our own track days later this year, but the 600 will probably give me the most satisfaction at the end of a session! The BMW's a very good road bike on the account it has cruise and heated grips as standard...
Does anyone know how much the 600’s HRC race kit will cost?
Not yet, the price has yet to be announced but I have just asked the question once more.
Cheers, Michael
@@bennettsbikesocial thanks Michael, do you have any info on it? As in what does it consist of? Assuming, ECU and harness but not sure what else.
Ta
@@robotserious This is the wording from the press kit: "HRC has developed a Race Kit for the CBR600RR that ups engine performance, heightens cornering ability and grip, and saves weight. Available to buy as a complete kit - and for circuit use only - all road safety items are neatly removed and HRC kit parts, including ECU, wiring harness, cylinder head gasket, big radiator, racing exhaust, front/rear suspension and brake discs plug straight in."
@@bennettsbikesocial amazing thanks
I’m going to upgrade from my track SV minitwin to a Supersport for this year. I was going to track prep my 2015 Daytona 675R. But I’m now really considering stretching my budget to this with the race kit. The up to date electronics and Big H reliability are very very tempting.
Love to own 600rr ,Sadly not available in India 😮💨
Now even the 650 is questionable
It will come to India only as a CBU , Honda would want to compete with Kawasaki Ninja Zx6r but Zx6r is VFM
thats...quite a huge rider.
he makes the bikes look small
I'm 6ft (182cm) and 14st 4lbs (90.5kg)... but I was trying to breath in!
What if you have enough money? Is there a noteworthy difference, is the real premise, I hope. What I mean is for some people it doesn't need to be twice as good, it just needs to be significantly better if you got it lying around anyhow.
It's got almost twice the BHP, thus the price, it's as simple as that.
I have a 91 BHP cb750 hornet, do I need more power on the road? No! I'm faster than almost all of the cars and overtake them like it's nothing. Yet I could understant and like to have the 120 BHP of this 600 bike. So it's about what you'll use it for.
BOTH looks SO SIMILAR....!!!!
😅😅😅
At quick first glance...one wouldn't recognise which is 600cc and which is 1000cc HONDA...!!!!!
HONDA should upgrade their Bike's looks and designs plus Colours schemes too .😊
All I know I'm taking the 600 for London all day long you can get something outta of the engine you can't do that wiv the litre machines I'm an RD350 LC MAD MAN FROM 80S GRETEST BIKEVEVER THE CBR 600 I LOVE IT PLUS I HAD THE FASTEST 2 STROKE HONE IN SOUTH OF ENGLAND AN BMX 125 LC Stan 'STEPHENS TUNED STAGE 2 MICRON EXHAUST FULL REEDS BORED THE WORKS I HAD 98 MPH ON IT FOR A RESTRICTED 12BHP BIKE BACK IN 1986 IT WAS MAD THEN YAMAHA THE DADDY POWER BAND THAT WOULD KILL YOU INTOXICATING MOST FUN MOST STOLEN MOST SORT AFTER THE YAMAHA RD350 LC THE WEAPON TO PUT Z900S TO SHAMELONDON BRIDGD FRIDAY NIGHT'S BOX HILL SUNDAY AFTERNOONS
I hope Honda wins in upcoming MotoGP seasons.
If I wanted the electronic garbage and lack of a fuel gauge, I'd have to seriously think about this.
I think the 1000RR makes the most sense because it can become a 600 with software but also has the benefit of the 1000.
If you want a fuel gauge and less electronics, then get a zx6r. Kawasaki exists
All these ride mode and levels of TC and all that for the street you'd literally set it and forgot it. And not. Constantly be changing through them
I’d love to get the 600, but here in Australia, the price is ridiculous. Honda AUS are charging us the equivalent of 15,200 GBP, nearly 5,000 GBP more than what UK buyers are paying! What the f#$k Honda? 🤨
Underseat exhaust is cool (if impractical, in some ways).
Silly little downforce winglets on a 600 are NOT cool. 🤦🏻♂️😏
Once you make the transition from 600 to a 1000 you never go back
I think Honda might have missed a trick by grouping both bikes together on the same launch event - the 600 is fantastic in its own right but was treated a little like the warm-up act before the main event.
Would it hurt Honda to make a bike that would fit a normal guy? 6 plus feet tall. Seems they’re all made for jocks clocking in at 5.4👍🏻
Goodness man. Honda makes a slew of motorcycles, as do most manufacturers. Check their websites, they got stuff for everyone
They both look the same size.
The new 2024 600RR is costing around 18.000€, the Fireblade (the normal version) is costing 35.0000!!!! It´s just insanity this kind of price tag. 600RR all the way. And man, the undertail exhaust looks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than that monstrosity on the fireblade!
Only £10,450 in the UK, what country for 18,000 euros?
How tall are you sir? No hate
6ft / 182cm
The front turn signals should have been integrated into the front rearview mirrors.
When is Honda going to learn how to design eye pleasing livery for their sports bikes? It's been like this for years.
How motorcycle journalists lost their way.
Bikes with headlights, indicators and mirrors.
'Lets take em to a racetrack!!'
What happened to centre stands by the way?
You are partially right. For new bike launches it's the manufacturers that choose to use a racetrack. It's a lot easier for riders to test the full potential of a 200bhp superbike on a racetrack than have 60 UK, French and Italian riders terrorising the back roads, commuters and farmers of southern Portugese B-roads. When we used to do sports bike launches on the road it was mayhem and bloody dangerous. Plus, the manufacturers now have all kinds of legal responsibilities that were less prevalent back in the 90s when I started road testing. We always try and get a UK road tests done as soon as the bike is available for our written article. If we can do a video as well we do that too.
As for centrestands, as a high-mileage road rider, I agree, but for sports bikes they compete for space where the catalytic convertor goes to keep everything tucked in for ground clearance. Although the CBR600RR with it's underseat exhaust is an exception to this and could probably accommodate a centrestand.
i like the fireblade, but you honestly have to go out of the streets to truly enjoy 1000cc superbikes.
both bikes are outstanding but far too many set ups to choose from...
What about if it’s an older fire blade?
Now there’s an interesting point, how old are we talking?
@@bennettsbikesocial in my area you can find a 2015ish for around the same as a new 600
No conclusion/answer, as you expected … lol 😉
Which would you choose - money no object?
@@bennettsbikesocial Money no object - the 1000, of course! Why, are you going to send me one?! 😀
just why 600RR is sooo heavy?
Newly revamped 600RR not available here in the US… 👎bummer.
Next year though, right?
🤞
The law of diminishing returns says no, it’s never twice the bike
Why the hell did they get ride of the best looking part of the 600? That being the undertail exhaust?! The sole reason I have a 2022 cbr600rr is because of the undertail exhaust. Then I added an akrapovic and god… sounds incredible and looks incredible
They didn’t, the 600 still has it…
the 600 still has it and it looks horrible, luckily the 1000 doesn't have the exhaust under the tail because in my opinion it looks really bad and I've never liked it not even in old bikes when during a certain period of time almost all of them had the exhaust under the tail
@@liv0003 Lol bro no, I respect your opinion because we all have one, but you’re definitely in the minority there. With the correct undertail exhaust, it looks 10X better. Makes the bike look like a fighter jet with the rear exhaust nozzles. My profile bike is my 2022 with an Akrapovic. The aesthetic look is better than any side mounted exhaust 😎
Bikes look nice but why did they make the cockpit look like the back of a microwave oven with a tablet stuck to it. shame you had to deal with rain.
Since the lap time is half then yes... oh wait, never mind 👎
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I prefer road bikes, that is bikes that are ridden on the road.
I wish this new 600 had the same front decal as this Fireblade. Hate those ugly eyebrows on the new 650r/600rr and it would be first thing to go should I get one.
Just give us a new Cbr400rr baby blade and I’ll be happy
I have an 05 and 07 600 RR i wouldn't change them for anything except a RR-R SP
I have to admit that new 600 looks stunning not a fan of the front nose but it is stunning.
These are both track bikes. There are far better street bikes. Horses for courses.
Honda wants $29,355 for the 600 in Australia. What a fucken joke.
4 minute intro... I'm out!
Ok. You are allowed to flick through it, that’s why I added chapters. 😉
Whoever is doing your editing needs to be sacked.
1000 кубика са за мъже,600 са за деца до 18г.
Not sure I agree with that statement. Just watch the Supersport class at the TT or BSB.
@@bennettsbikesocial прекарено слаби са 600 кубика,за мен това са детски играчки
@Stayko_Aradzhiev You need a bike to make up for lack of skill
for road use 650r all day. These two are high rev, so boring on street.
mas magandang sabihing cbr1000 duoble RR R
600 all daylong !GATE13SW6CREW CFC