Got a 2005 cbr 600rr, had it 18 years, got 22000 miles and still goes like a dream…..as I’m 50 now I’ve been looking for something a bit more sensible like the new Daytona , then this comes out and I think, fook it, whilst ignoring my back….this is 10 and half grand, I’m having it.
Back in 2000 I bought a BRAND NEW R6 for 6k. According to the Bank of England inflation calculator, that amount is now 10.8k so this CBR 600 is right on the money but with MORE technology.
Sportsbike 600s struggled to sell when they cost almost as much as a 1000 superbike to buy. But now Honda and Kawasaki are selling their sportsbikes for just over £10K (half the cost of a 1000, and only a little more than the parallel twin crowd); it’s a bargain!
Another idea is that the used market was so saturated with these, that people would just have bought a few years old used one. Now that they were off the market for a few years and the old ones are quiet dated, people are interested in buying new ones again. At least that's my guess looking at the used bike, most super sports are 1000CCs between 2000 and 2010. But yea, currently this bike looks like an amazing bargain compared to other bikes.
no not half the price of the 1000 I just saw it is 11k vs 16k not 22k which would be double....i mean LOOK before you spew something....well unless they are gouging the liter bikes in the UK?
@@dougiequick1 I bet you’re a fun guy to have a drink with…..🤣🤣🤣 And if you’re going to get pedantic, at least quote the correct prices before you spew something - the CBR600RR is only £10.5K 🤣🤣🤣 Just checked prices and you can’t get a Fireblade for anything close to £16K so I really don’t know what the hell you’re smoking 🤣🤣🤣
@ciuffoarancione8929 just too bad it doesn't have even the minimum of safety features such as ABS and a personal preference but I'd like it more updated to today's bikes
@@ciuffoarancione8929 but GSXR has like NO tech where the Honda has it all....otherwise I would aggree the gsxr is kinda a rip off considering the tooling is loooong ago all paid for....Suzuki just milks old bike models like forever....shamelessly
@@dougiequick1 then for 80% road 20% track an RS 660 is the right bike. And also looks good. It has more power and torque at mid range than 600cc 4cyl and it s lighter. It lacks grunt end, on track is not as fast as a 600cc 4cyl (if you are good driving it) but on road it s more funny..
Looks ace with that exhaust. A great bike for learning how to ride on track. Shame about the weather. I hope you guys manage a big sportsbike/supberkibe shootout again. I'd love it for the liter bikes as well as the "'middleweight" class
My local dealer has taken 8 deposits on them and they arnt a big shop. They sell cos we all want the new blade but dont have 1 million dollars to buy one. These are at a great price point.
@@lonewolfriding3815extremely restricted. Get a good exhaust and tune, and they're hitting 180mph.... With 2 gears left to shift to. The stock gear ratios are extremely long, and also it's ECU tune just dials the timing back all the way to 5, and hence no hp and/or torque from factory. Change sprockets as well as the retune and exhaust, and now you have absolute monster acceleration on track.
44teeth, smashing other channels right in the Gary. Love your stuff. The CBR600RR is perhaps the most beautifully balanced road/sports bike ever. I’ve got the 1000RR. Ooooh suits you.
I’ve had me first bike for 14 years now. 2002 CBR 600 fs sport and I’m convinced it can still do more than I’m capable of! I don’t ride it much these last few years but I’m still wanting a change. The next step up but can’t decide what to go for. That bike hasn’t missed a beat! I like the 765 street triple but I can’t get past the look of the front end
Glad to see this CBR600RR goes world wide, because in the most of Asia region this new gen already in the marketplace for a few years now and glad you guys have a chance to buy this beauty, enjoy 👍🏻
welcome to present honda 600! slipper clutch in 2024...something to be prod of really? This is coming from a honda lover, I love it on track but having to invest so much to be able to get basic braking on the track is a bit rough if you are on a budget... Awesome video as always #44 !
I SOOOO.WANT ONE OF THESE!!!! My favorite bike of all time, loved the 600-F4i and then even more when they added the undertail exhaust!!! SO GOOD to see it back again!!! What's the difference between wet and dry weather slider pucks? Are the wet ones a little softer, for more grip and better control, because the moisture will allow them to slide more, possibly allowing you to lose control and low side??
So pressed that this version isn't in the US. I want to buy a 600RR but I'm not gonna pay full price for an outdated model when this is available in every other country 😭
Would love another CBR600. After the previous eyebrow lights model, this looks really sharp (except the T-Rex arm wings) and keeps the underseat exhaust as well. Slipper clutch on a 600🤔...great. Great paint colour though Honda's usual dull designs.
I have 2005 600rr for almost 10 years now, 5 of which used as a track bike. It never even once let me down throughout the years. At this point it's more like a family member rather than a bike😂
Hi, i search for new bike to use on track only, and have question which one to choose the new 600rr vs r6? Can you say something about brake calipers in 600rr compared to r6 or how the new 600rr brakes in general
I had a 2013 CBR600RR HRC. Loved everything about that bike then I let a friend ride it November 26th 2022 and he totaled it out ( 4 broke ribs and a punctured lung, He's fine now ) Now I have a 2019 ZX6R. It is the faster bike by far.. I was going to get another Honda, because I like the looks of the CBR 600 more than any of the other 600's ( What few of them that are left ) But I got such a good deal on the ZX6R ( $5,500 with 8,000 miles on it ) I couldn't pass it up, and now I'm glad I didn't even though the CBR600RR is a better looking bike... CBR600RR will always hold a place in my heart. I've owned 2 of them, a 2004 tahitian blue pearl. And the aforementioned 2013 HRC tricolor
My 02 F4i just recently got crushed in a rear end accident. Devastated to lose my steed, was still in perfect condition, what an engine it had. This video has me rethinking my next purchase from something more upright and sensible to what I know best.
We’ve had this revised 600 in Australia since it became Euro5 compliant. However, the asking price was just ridiculous! Way too expensive. However, from my perspective, learning how to ride these fast on track provides more scope to improve before jumping onto a 1000 cc bike. When I started out racing in Australia the steps were 250 cc production class 2 strokes, then the 600 Supersports before stepping up again into Superbike Racing. As around Phillip Island had lap times spread with incremental lap time increases of between 12-15 seconds per category. Possibly one reason why a country with a comparatively low population has produced so many world champions in different classes.
Gorgeous bike and I personally still prefer the supersports class over the superbikes (on the road). Probably cause I'm a big wuss and need to keep my license. 44Teeth spoiling us with the uploads, I like.
Very happy they’ve released this. I’ve got a 2003 CBR600F-sport, and I love it, 38k on it and it rides a dream. Looking at this does make my eyes wonder
I had the 600cbrr 2008...i loved it ..the overall look and lightness of the bike .. unfortunately i smashed it into pieces in a awful smash ..2 yrs on recovery and im thinking about getting another 🤔. Love the black n silver 2005/6 but never rode one and heard thats its nothing like the 08 handling wize .. im not a big fan on electronics..abs ect .. although slipper clutch makes sense. Uhmmm ...ill have to try the new one .
Laughing at 9 minutes in when you overshot the sharp bend same as the Fireblade test, I would probably have binned them both in the wet, still a good watch though Al. From the viewers point of view the 600 looks very fast and rides nice and stable. Question: Why are we still being foisted with EU compliant nanny state stuff when we are not in the EU any more, I am straight piping my SDR very soon
I had both a cbr600rr and street triple at the same time and the midrange of the street triple made the cbr feel so slow to get going. If Yamaha launch the R9 the cbr will be obsolete.
Gives me a lob on seeing this. I've got a 2017 model race bike. By a long way the easiest bike to race. The shit you can get away with it mint. I've browned my leathers many times
Thanks for your insight to the new 600. Sooo many people out there have older 600's like myself and love them. Will they go out and buy a new one. Probably not, as they are pretty much one of the best sport bikes out there for the money. Looking at these comments you can understand why. Would be interested in seeing what you can do with one in the dry on a uk track. (if it every stops raining that is) Just keep doling what you do best, great videos. BTW, laughed my tits off at BBB Bratislava... Oh you've gottta do more of them for sure.
It’s all a bit mute now, can’t get one only 400 coming into the country, 200 of them are for race teams and dealer demos and the last 200 are back ordered until November. They’ve way underestimated the demand
Love the CBR 600RR - The Sweet Spot of sports bike. They should name it the "CBR 600 RR RTH"; because it is perfect out of the box for the ROAD, the TRACK and the HOOD. There is not a single bad thing about it. Is it a 1000 - NO - It is a 600(599cc).
I'm not a Honda guy, but I'm definitely buying one when they hit the states. Hate that other companies are doing away with their inline 4 600s and 1000s, staring at you yamaha even though I have an MT10SP!
As a Yamaha guy, are you excited for the R9’s potential? I’ve been anticipating that bike for some time now and I’m hopeful it will be a powerful addition to the available below-super lineup options
@@frankfeng6199nothing like an inline 4 screamer. Thats where I’m at. I’m torn between the things I KNOW I love, and the POTENTIAL of these new choices. I love options, but hate choosing 😂😂😂
i like a nice torquay midrange and the top end rush on a 1,000cc so its not my cup of tea ... but looks like a nice bike and a track weapon as always with a 600 with the right rider it will humble 1,000 bike
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Got a 2005 cbr 600rr, had it 18 years, got 22000 miles and still goes like a dream…..as I’m 50 now I’ve been looking for something a bit more sensible like the new Daytona , then this comes out and I think, fook it, whilst ignoring my back….this is 10 and half grand, I’m having it.
Start road cycling for fitness and after one of those, the CBR is an armchair.
😂@@lonpfrb
Ive had my 2007 since 2014 and im 53 next week! love it to bits!!
Try balance ball training for better core stability
I had a first gen 2003 and it was one of my favorite bikes ever. Wish I still had it.
Back in 2000 I bought a BRAND NEW R6 for 6k. According to the Bank of England inflation calculator, that amount is now 10.8k so this CBR 600 is right on the money but with MORE technology.
A lot more
Back in 2000 i bought a new Zx6r, my first bike
Have a 2009 cbr 600rr, had it since new. 54k miles on it so far...never an a single issue. Most reliable of all my bikes by far.
how do you drive it? have you tracked it?
I have 34k on mine and not a single issue and it still runs like a dream@@adamkafia2554
Sportsbike 600s struggled to sell when they cost almost as much as a 1000 superbike to buy. But now Honda and Kawasaki are selling their sportsbikes for just over £10K (half the cost of a 1000, and only a little more than the parallel twin crowd); it’s a bargain!
Another idea is that the used market was so saturated with these, that people would just have bought a few years old used one. Now that they were off the market for a few years and the old ones are quiet dated, people are interested in buying new ones again. At least that's my guess looking at the used bike, most super sports are 1000CCs between 2000 and 2010.
But yea, currently this bike looks like an amazing bargain compared to other bikes.
no not half the price of the 1000 I just saw it is 11k vs 16k not 22k which would be double....i mean LOOK before you spew something....well unless they are gouging the liter bikes in the UK?
@@dougiequick1 I bet you’re a fun guy to have a drink with…..🤣🤣🤣 And if you’re going to get pedantic, at least quote the correct prices before you spew something - the CBR600RR is only £10.5K 🤣🤣🤣 Just checked prices and you can’t get a Fireblade for anything close to £16K so I really don’t know what the hell you’re smoking 🤣🤣🤣
Yes this was what i was waiting for. Kudos to Honda keeping the 600 alive. Recently got a litre bike sold the R6. Nothing beats the agility of a 600.
Gsx r 750 is a good choice.. Good max power and mid range and quite light.
@ciuffoarancione8929 just too bad it doesn't have even the minimum of safety features such as ABS and a personal preference but I'd like it more updated to today's bikes
@@shvy100 Sometimes ABS is not safer
@@ciuffoarancione8929 but GSXR has like NO tech where the Honda has it all....otherwise I would aggree the gsxr is kinda a rip off considering the tooling is loooong ago all paid for....Suzuki just milks old bike models like forever....shamelessly
@@dougiequick1 then for 80% road 20% track an RS 660 is the right bike. And also looks good. It has more power and torque at mid range than 600cc 4cyl and it s lighter. It lacks grunt end, on track is not as fast as a 600cc 4cyl (if you are good driving it) but on road it s more funny..
Looks ace with that exhaust. A great bike for learning how to ride on track.
Shame about the weather. I hope you guys manage a big sportsbike/supberkibe shootout again.
I'd love it for the liter bikes as well as the "'middleweight" class
Video production going crazy! I appreciate it. Good to see more angles of the bike and drone shots used in last few videos. Nice music too.
My local dealer has taken 8 deposits on them and they arnt a big shop. They sell cos we all want the new blade but dont have 1 million dollars to buy one. These are at a great price point.
Newer blades don’t have a lot of wheel BHP anyways still around 170-180 on a dyno
@@lonewolfriding3815extremely restricted. Get a good exhaust and tune, and they're hitting 180mph.... With 2 gears left to shift to. The stock gear ratios are extremely long, and also it's ECU tune just dials the timing back all the way to 5, and hence no hp and/or torque from factory. Change sprockets as well as the retune and exhaust, and now you have absolute monster acceleration on track.
44teeth, smashing other channels right in the Gary. Love your stuff. The CBR600RR is perhaps the most beautifully balanced road/sports bike ever. I’ve got the 1000RR. Ooooh suits you.
right in the gary busey
always wanted one, tried so hard to get one of the last ones in the hrc colours, glad it's back
Another 44 video... you're spoiling us 🥰
With these Ferrero Rocher
My first big bike was a CBR600F and my first track bike was CBR600RR-07 that I still have and this looks amazing...
I got a brand new ZX6r in 2019 loved it. Glad they are still making the 600s again.
Just love the clean look on the under tail exhaust. Can’t wait for mine in few weeks.
I’ve had me first bike for 14 years now. 2002 CBR 600 fs sport and I’m convinced it can still do more than I’m capable of! I don’t ride it much these last few years but I’m still wanting a change. The next step up but can’t decide what to go for. That bike hasn’t missed a beat! I like the 765 street triple but I can’t get past the look of the front end
Glad to see this CBR600RR goes world wide, because in the most of Asia region this new gen already in the marketplace for a few years now and glad you guys have a chance to buy this beauty, enjoy 👍🏻
welcome to present honda 600! slipper clutch in 2024...something to be prod of really? This is coming from a honda lover, I love it on track but having to invest so much to be able to get basic braking on the track is a bit rough if you are on a budget... Awesome video as always #44 !
buying one as soon as i can brand new , always wanted trhis thing , the undertail enough was enough
Love the return of the undetail
I SOOOO.WANT ONE OF THESE!!!! My favorite bike of all time, loved the 600-F4i and then even more when they added the undertail exhaust!!! SO GOOD to see it back again!!!
What's the difference between wet and dry weather slider pucks? Are the wet ones a little softer, for more grip and better control, because the moisture will allow them to slide more, possibly allowing you to lose control and low side??
New CBR or ZX6R on track!? Need a track test together pls.
is cbr 600rr faster than 250kmh (zx6r) ?
Got an 08 600RR, my first ‘big bike’ I love it!
So pressed that this version isn't in the US. I want to buy a 600RR but I'm not gonna pay full price for an outdated model when this is available in every other country 😭
Would love another CBR600. After the previous eyebrow lights model, this looks really sharp (except the T-Rex arm wings) and keeps the underseat exhaust as well. Slipper clutch on a 600🤔...great. Great paint colour though Honda's usual dull designs.
Excited for the road review to see what its like in the real world as I'm thinking about getting one
I have 2005 600rr for almost 10 years now, 5 of which used as a track bike. It never even once let me down throughout the years. At this point it's more like a family member rather than a bike😂
Can't wait to give this a proper review ride as well 😎👌🔥
Hi, i search for new bike to use on track only, and have question which one to choose the new 600rr vs r6? Can you say something about brake calipers in 600rr compared to r6 or how the new 600rr brakes in general
Awesome stuff. Would love to see a head to head comparison with the zx6r.
Had a Kawasaki ZX 600R 1999 G2
Fantastic Motorbike
600s are so underated ✊️ little baby superbike with telepathic steering.
Telepathic backache.
Underrated? They’re the most popular bike lol
Is the new cbr worth the update from a modified race cbr from 2009?
You've got to love when the sun comes out and the confidence kicks in, then we get a lot of "shit shit shit" "oh fuck" "shit" 😂😂😂 love it
Hi 44, may I ask how tall you are and how I would fare on it being 6.4 on a good day?
I did test ride one yesterday in Doble Coulsdon.Its really nice little screamer .
I had a 2013 CBR600RR HRC. Loved everything about that bike then I let a friend ride it November 26th 2022 and he totaled it out ( 4 broke ribs and a punctured lung, He's fine now ) Now I have a 2019 ZX6R. It is the faster bike by far.. I was going to get another Honda, because I like the looks of the CBR 600 more than any of the other 600's ( What few of them that are left ) But I got such a good deal on the ZX6R ( $5,500 with 8,000 miles on it ) I couldn't pass it up, and now I'm glad I didn't even though the CBR600RR is a better looking bike... CBR600RR will always hold a place in my heart. I've owned 2 of them, a 2004 tahitian blue pearl. And the aforementioned 2013 HRC tricolor
What a beautiful little bike I’m a massive fan of the 600s and would love to get my hands on this little beauty.
What's the clear visor in the rain issue?
My 1st was an 02 cbr f4i. Great bike. Then had a daytona 675r. Marvelous bike.
Oh? I started on 01 f4i then got a 675r aswell
@@LL-cz5qlnice wish I kept the daytona but I'm on a Tenere now and a 71 BSA
My 02 F4i just recently got crushed in a rear end accident. Devastated to lose my steed, was still in perfect condition, what an engine it had. This video has me rethinking my next purchase from something more upright and sensible to what I know best.
Oh Chad. Still not over the hair loss. Just go to Turkey already.
how did you find the throttle response now that they went ride by wire ?
We’ve had this revised 600 in Australia since it became Euro5 compliant. However, the asking price was just ridiculous! Way too expensive. However, from my perspective, learning how to ride these fast on track provides more scope to improve before jumping onto a 1000 cc bike. When I started out racing in Australia the steps were 250 cc production class 2 strokes, then the 600 Supersports before stepping up again into Superbike Racing. As around Phillip Island had lap times spread with incremental lap time increases of between 12-15 seconds per category. Possibly one reason why a country with a comparatively low population has produced so many world champions in different classes.
Looks good value and been watching old R6 review and was going crazy because of euro 4, how does this compare to that screamer
Gorgeous bike and I personally still prefer the supersports class over the superbikes (on the road). Probably cause I'm a big wuss and need to keep my license.
44Teeth spoiling us with the uploads, I like.
Very happy they’ve released this. I’ve got a 2003 CBR600F-sport, and I love it, 38k on it and it rides a dream. Looking at this does make my eyes wonder
what's your opinion on electronics on a 600?
We need a side by side review of this and the Kawasaki very interesting review as they seem the only ones in the 600 series
It looks absolutely amazing too. I am not a huge fan of the canards but everything else just looks perfect.
Does anyone know if this will be coming to the US?
Been waiting for this ❤
"That super clutch... is sexual." Had me dying. Im sold.
It has a fuel gauge on the screen? Thanks!
My 01 F4i still works without fault, love the 600 Hondas
It looks dripping in build quality
Is it Dean Harrison at 1:40?
Sure is.
Honda needs to stop playing games and make a production V4 Superbike!
I think that ship has sailed...
They aren't Italian.... People don't just buy v4 because they are v4.... It would be like a 100k jeep.
@@ellwoodwolfHonda built V4s waaaay before the Italians did it. VFR750 NC30 comes to mind.
They did...
@@ellwoodwolf You're at the valley of the Dunning Kruger curve
Took the the zx6 out for a test couple of weeks ago. God I miss throwing one around
At least it's an actual sports bike rather than a pretender, and for that reason, I'm glad it exists.
I'm drooling for one, but I just don't know if I could use it properly.
I had the 600cbrr 2008...i loved it ..the overall look and lightness of the bike .. unfortunately i smashed it into pieces in a awful smash ..2 yrs on recovery and im thinking about getting another 🤔. Love the black n silver 2005/6 but never rode one and heard thats its nothing like the 08 handling wize .. im not a big fan on electronics..abs ect .. although slipper clutch makes sense. Uhmmm ...ill have to try the new one .
Loved my gixxer 600 and maybe it’s time for another screamer B4 the back gives out! Excellent vid Al you nut-bag!
Sad that we won't get these updated 600's in the US (at least for the time being)
Wish this thing was in US markets
Laughing at 9 minutes in when you overshot the sharp bend same as the Fireblade test, I would probably have binned them both in the wet, still a good watch though Al. From the viewers point of view the 600 looks very fast and rides nice and stable. Question: Why are we still being foisted with EU compliant nanny state stuff when we are not in the EU any more, I am straight piping my SDR very soon
So good to see such a legend back!
Yamaha and Suzuki, shame on you!
1999 CBR F4 brand new. Felt like a God
Worst bike I owned.
@@johna6968? Regulator rectifier problems?
I loved this bike. Gold and Black
@@baggedtuned8569 was it like a mustard yellow?
Interested to see how this compares against Kawasaki's new ZX-6R
This why I’m keeping my 07 GSXR 750
Great looking bike!! Amateur question. What is a slipper clutch?
I had both a cbr600rr and street triple at the same time and the midrange of the street triple made the cbr feel so slow to get going. If Yamaha launch the R9 the cbr will be obsolete.
Best middle weight sports bike along with the best budget middle weight naked. Honda is on a roll. 👍🏻
Desperate between this and the ZX6R, anyone know when they release in the UK? Not any road tests of them yet…
2006 cbr600rr....man this looks sweet but I'm so in love with mine....
Gives me a lob on seeing this. I've got a 2017 model race bike. By a long way the easiest bike to race. The shit you can get away with it mint. I've browned my leathers many times
Thanks for your insight to the new 600. Sooo many people out there have older 600's like myself and love them. Will they go out and buy a new one. Probably not, as they are pretty much one of the best sport bikes out there for the money. Looking at these comments you can understand why. Would be interested in seeing what you can do with one in the dry on a uk track. (if it every stops raining that is) Just keep doling what you do best, great videos. BTW, laughed my tits off at BBB Bratislava... Oh you've gottta do more of them for sure.
It’s all a bit mute now, can’t get one only 400 coming into the country, 200 of them are for race teams and dealer demos and the last 200 are back ordered until November.
They’ve way underestimated the demand
how does that compete up to an r6?
Having serious bother talking myself out getting one 😂
I believe this is now the only factory 600 i4 with a auto blip.
How difficult would it be to UN-euro 5 this machine?
Love the CBR 600RR - The Sweet Spot of sports bike. They should name it the "CBR 600 RR RTH"; because it is perfect out of the box for the ROAD, the TRACK and the HOOD. There is not a single bad thing about it. Is it a 1000 - NO - It is a 600(599cc).
what a beauty , better than a bmw or ducati
What would you take a tuned 800 VFR or a baby blade 🤷🏻♂️
I've owned both and I'd go with the baby blade if I was still 20, but they''re actually not that uncomfortable.
sweet af, honda should go well in bsb this year...
Ive got a 13 600 i bought new in 15, and its got over 46,000 miles on now. Id love to upgrade to this newer one but they wont bring it to the states 🥺
Zx 636 or Honda 600 ?
is it faster than 250kmh?
I am 190 cm and slightly above 105 kg, maybe this is a bit too small for me then?
I absolutely don't miss the CRB600RR... I still have it.
😅
Love the little Honda
Awesome stuff
The market is taking it that way: earliest available bike at any of the dealerships in the country is August/October :(
why do you need different pucks for the wet?
Wet sliders are thicker, so your knee touches the ground with less lean angle.
Would it beat the new 765RS on track?
Would depend on the track, 765 has no fairings so top speed suffers.
how much better is this as a daytona 675?
I'm not a Honda guy, but I'm definitely buying one when they hit the states. Hate that other companies are doing away with their inline 4 600s and 1000s, staring at you yamaha even though I have an MT10SP!
As a Yamaha guy, are you excited for the R9’s potential? I’ve been anticipating that bike for some time now and I’m hopeful it will be a powerful addition to the available below-super lineup options
@@wTwig yes, but I love my middleweight inline 4s 😅
@@frankfeng6199nothing like an inline 4 screamer. Thats where I’m at. I’m torn between the things I KNOW I love, and the POTENTIAL of these new choices.
I love options, but hate choosing 😂😂😂
@@wTwigthe R9 will just be an MT,-09 with fairings though and priced high because of inflation
i like a nice torquay midrange and the top end rush on a 1,000cc so its not my cup of tea ... but looks like a nice bike and a track weapon as always with a 600 with the right rider it will humble 1,000 bike
Torquay’s midrange is a shopping precinct! 😉
How much hp ?
This should be your guy's next road to race bike.
I think it is absolutely lovely. I hope it the facelift comes to the USA eventually.
Just too cramped unlike the fireblade when I sat on one. Had a 2017 blade and loved it so might be biased