This is why 1000cc riders HATE 600cc riders! 🤬

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  • @Adventuride
    @Adventuride 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7567

    There was a related quote from a legendary rally driver: "Straight roads are for fast cars, turns are for fast drivers." -Colin Mcrae
    Good job!

    • @DeadEyeP_
      @DeadEyeP_ ปีที่แล้ว +48

      *Colin McCrash

    • @tommyduk1779
      @tommyduk1779 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Helicopters are for responsible professionals.

    • @kelliebrooks9094
      @kelliebrooks9094 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Truth....if u own a car an it cant go left good the n right good junk it....

    • @skiddlyd.244
      @skiddlyd.244 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @swedish asian femboy 🇸🇪 On public roads it doesn’t matter how good a car corners if the driver is horrible and either corners slow like a grandma or causes an accident because they were trying to drive too fast and went off road or failed to maintain their lane through a blind corner and cause a head on collision.

    • @andrewtaylor6410
      @andrewtaylor6410 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Love that!

  • @Josh-xr1xu
    @Josh-xr1xu ปีที่แล้ว +2860

    It's incredible how much faster the 1000's are on the straights. Almost scary how fast they are flying past. Definitely clear this rider is more skilled than a lot of the fellas on the track. Especially since this is the first time he's ridden this bike.

    • @nukester.
      @nukester. ปีที่แล้ว +97

      lol yes, no way 1000cc loose like that to 600cc if skill levels are about equal =)

    • @edwardces73
      @edwardces73 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Only time a 6 will keep up with a 1000 is in corners. And now days 1000 are just a tiny as a 6 just bigger motors. He was having problems in the corners keeping up with them.

    • @muhibali511
      @muhibali511 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      1000 cc bikes are heavier which makes it hard to control in curves which forces them to go slower , similarly 600 is lighter and faster in curves

    • @suez.03
      @suez.03 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      1000s are faster but heavier while 600s are a lil slower but more nimble and agile
      so you always see the 1000cc bikes flying at the 2 straights but the 600 dominating the curves

    • @lifted_above
      @lifted_above ปีที่แล้ว +23

      There's about a 60-70 horsepower difference, and the weight is about 30 pounds heavier. Still, the 1L bikes are 425-435 pounds curb weight which isn't that much. More weight is always an enemy in the curves, but you can't have your cake and eat it too, unless you're riding MotoGP bike.

  • @devscally
    @devscally ปีที่แล้ว +655

    That guy battling for 1st knows how to defend. You can see him slowing you right down on some of the apex's because he knows he has the torque to get away from you at the exit's. Great racing from both of you.

    • @xninja2369
      @xninja2369 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      exactly
      Oh yeah no one is talking about the player who almost held is 1st position for straight 10 minutes ,(and even in whole video) even though this guy was having little bit advantage over edge , he was still keeping with him in corners handling such a heavy bike ...

    • @Otterbruce
      @Otterbruce 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes I noticed the slow down at the apex too. That was a clever defensive move. But those late brake passes were brilliant to watch.

    • @emryck
      @emryck 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I am not totally sure these were intentional as you can see that his (the guy ahead) corner lines are not smooth (you can see it when current rider is not just behind him)

    • @genotaylor1203
      @genotaylor1203 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      T😊 etch a bit of 😅o😅

  • @coldhui
    @coldhui ปีที่แล้ว +719

    i would not be pissed if i was in those 1000cc bikes. I would APPRECIATE the technical riding you've performed. Breaking later than others, obviously carrying more speed during corner, but that''s from good riding positions and lean. Hands Down Awesome Work

    • @Daniel-et5eh
      @Daniel-et5eh ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@H-to-O if it isn’t that much faster why is motogp lap times faster than moto2 that use 765cc engines, for the avg joe a 600cc bike is better for the track but if u have skill and are a experienced rider a 1000cc is just as good as a 600cc or even better. Just because u can’t ride a 1000cc as good as ur 600cc dosnt mean others can’t aswell people are just more skilled 😭

    • @WontSeeReplies
      @WontSeeReplies 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@H-to-Ogreat point. Spoken like a racer.

    • @Adrenalean767
      @Adrenalean767 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Daniel-et5eh maybe because Moto gp racers are better than moto 2 racers.

    • @brianwaits3209
      @brianwaits3209 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@Void right he didn't read that right at all. Looks like he read the opposite of what was said.

    • @bryandedon7459
      @bryandedon7459 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@void8012 I think the persons comment he replied to got deleted.

  • @charlesg.8615
    @charlesg.8615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3290

    They are eating you on the straight, but hell yeah you own them on all corners!!!! Bravo!

    • @wuvvbernardo9353
      @wuvvbernardo9353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Same thing we all want to say but congrats ! 🎊

    • @g-moneyrides8341
      @g-moneyrides8341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      1000 VS 600 of course the 1000 is faster in the straights

    • @charlesg.8615
      @charlesg.8615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@g-moneyrides8341 oh my! Nobody knows that.....

    • @charlesg.8615
      @charlesg.8615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @阿天 🤣🤣😅

    • @fictioncreatures2131
      @fictioncreatures2131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @阿天 damn i also shocked when i know this fact..

  • @michaelm.1576
    @michaelm.1576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3125

    A classic example of a more talented 600 rider carrying more cornering speed and demonstrating better breaking and thus harassing's the 1000cc riders that absolutely walk away on all the straights. Had those 1000cc riders been as talented as the guy in the video they would have absolutely walked away and he would not have been able to keep catching them in the breaking zones and corners. Great video. Thanks.

    • @anothersidestore3282
      @anothersidestore3282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      yeah I agree

    • @ML-tm1wn
      @ML-tm1wn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      It’s much harder to keep both wheels on, out of the turn on the 1000cc. That’s why most of the pass are from accelerating out of the turn.

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Regardless of size, all bikes lean at the same angle for a given speed. It’s the same with power wheelies. They will all lift the front shell above a certain acceleration. That’s why they can’t compete with sports cars.

    • @ML-tm1wn
      @ML-tm1wn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@davidelliott5843 I said it's much harder. Have you rode 1000cc sport bike? Don't tell me it has the same lift as 600cc.

    • @chrisgunther109
      @chrisgunther109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@davidelliott5843 lean -> turn radius is based on tire size. Most 600s have a smaller rear tire unless modified.

  • @Encourageable
    @Encourageable ปีที่แล้ว +993

    As someone who doesn’t ride, it’s really amazing how those tires can grip the track when the bike is leaned over so far.

    • @streetmissile1k
      @streetmissile1k ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Gyroscopes help keep it up

    • @sssdddd5143
      @sssdddd5143 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@streetmissile1k really? how's that

    • @jonathangolden8485
      @jonathangolden8485 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      It’s called gyroscopic force

    • @sssdddd5143
      @sssdddd5143 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@jonathangolden8485 I know that much, I was wondering where it is installed and how big

    • @dec1lent448
      @dec1lent448 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@sssdddd5143 Two fast spinning wheels and ofcourse most are using tires specific for the track. As it wouldnt be great for your pockets to daily drive on wheels costing a grand.

  • @FlipWarBucks
    @FlipWarBucks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Seeing these guys fly past for a second on the straights and then slow like they’re wearing a parachute in the breaking zones were the best parts 😂

  • @GunturWibowo2010
    @GunturWibowo2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2711

    only straight they could pass you but not on corners, means your skill is much better

    • @TheTradesmanLU2001
      @TheTradesmanLU2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      @@weko6273 hardly. The literbikes are so close nowadays in terms of weight and handling characteristics

    • @andikaletoy2801
      @andikaletoy2801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      You know nothing,smaller bike has better rolling speed

    • @TheTradesmanLU2001
      @TheTradesmanLU2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      @@andikaletoy2801 20 yrs on sport bikes has taught me that a 600 is nowhere near 1 second faster on entry or mid corner. This guy is gaining that . Are you gonna tell me with your expert opinion that a 600 is this much quicker yet still when you look at damn near every track in the world the fastest laps are always 1000’s . ? An expert rider will be faster or almost as fast on a 1000. Notice I wrote “hardly” indicating that it’s “hardly” much different. I stand by my opinion. I’m not new to this world of track days, racing, riding world.

    • @motorich
      @motorich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@andikaletoy2801 it does not have a better rolling speed. The 1000's are typically about 20 lbs heavier. Nothing to talk about there. This is pure rider skill.

    • @rickyhineman4124
      @rickyhineman4124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@motorich 100%, he was clearly finding grip that no one else was and that's all him

  • @MotoCameraMexico
    @MotoCameraMexico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +749

    Even for an experienced rider, modern 1000cc bikes can be overwhelming. On a 600cc, you are always pushing the very limit, in every sense, because you feel "underpowered", that confidence totally rattles other riders.

    • @jamesparker223
      @jamesparker223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Dunno why everyone keeps saying this lol. Guaranteed almost every if not every rider there pushes their 1000cc to the traction limit in every corner. 600cc is just more nimble and can do it faster.
      Also you can definitely push the 600 too hard and lose it too.

    • @benfennell6842
      @benfennell6842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      I'd love to see what a rider from the 80s would think seeing people call these 100+ hp machines underpowered lol

    • @jamesparker223
      @jamesparker223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@benfennell6842 Dude exactly lol. It's like they haven't ridden a 600. An MT07 will eat you for breakfast if you disrespect it for half a second.

    • @johngalt1967
      @johngalt1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I got too cocky with a 600 I has, I lost respect for it so I felt I needed to upgrade to a 1000 before I killed myself, 120 kills more electricians than larger voltages

    • @manofchaitea6904
      @manofchaitea6904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will leave this right here... th-cam.com/video/9D-QD_HIfjA/w-d-xo.html

  • @kombasanpracka
    @kombasanpracka ปีที่แล้ว +18

    These camera views are what F1 needs. It´s so engaging and fun to watch.

  • @sm0k3y56
    @sm0k3y56 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    I just have to appreciate how tactical racing can get. The 1000cc guys know they can afford to lose some seconds in the corners because how much the bikes can pull in the straights. While the smaller CC guys know that they gotta go full 100% and take greater risks in cornering and overtaking as shown here.

    • @Noob-Splaining
      @Noob-Splaining 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Actually, no and I hate to do the actually, but the smaller cc bikes are so more manoeuvrable in the corners, the big bikes better on the straights. I had a 400cc and used to go out with the guys from work who all had 1,000'+ they would leave me on the straights then we got to the fun twisty bits and I would scream through the pack while they threw the anchor out to make this next corner. You want handling 400-600, you want straight power speed 1000+. As I was told any idiot can do 150mph+ in a straight line, but straight lines are not where the fun is. We can brake later and overtake on the left on right corner because our bikes are so nimble to do that, if the track was all corners and twists a 400 would win, a straight line a 1300 GSXR hiyabusa all day long.

  • @Qielon
    @Qielon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1413

    This multi-POV race is awesome, I really like the editing and how you set up the cameras

    • @renatorochinperalta3050
      @renatorochinperalta3050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The camera setup is awesome, at some point I started wondering if it was a videogame!

  • @franklinwilkerson2061
    @franklinwilkerson2061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2483

    That spare key probably weighs 2or3 grams!

    • @paramedic9112
      @paramedic9112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      Well underrated comment, mate 😂

    • @garysmith3035
      @garysmith3035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      he should lose the helmet, it prolly weighed around 3 1/2 pounds

    • @zedddddful
      @zedddddful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      Bit boneheaded to keep your spare key with your main key in the first place.

    • @tahaelixer927
      @tahaelixer927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +190

      Pooping before riding always helps with the weight reduction.

    • @theweejr
      @theweejr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@zedddddful may be it his other car

  • @gabrielthornton2763
    @gabrielthornton2763 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    honestly beautiful riding such confident late braking and perfect cornering, was amazed how u didnt mess up for that length of time, well done great watch

  • @user-qm6us9pz2k
    @user-qm6us9pz2k ปีที่แล้ว +72

    People underestimate the strain on your wrists and body that racing causes. I’ve never been in an actual race but still go to track days. Running through a few laps at a time. Awesome camera angles as well bro. Top notch

    • @375GTB
      @375GTB 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ride an older 10 speed pedal bike with the old Weinmann center pull brakes
      Build up those hand/finger muscles...
      I did from 1970, 2020...
      Motor bikes 1966 - 1976....
      J.C.
      Age 73....

    • @hossesarse
      @hossesarse 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Spend some time in the gym developing your legs, core (abs and back). If you are anchored to the bike (legs squeezing the tank, core muscles engaged, and weight the outside peg when cornering), you won't have much weight/strain on your wrists. In fact, you shouldn't have any weight on the grips. Your grip on the bar should be as light as cradling two baby birds in your hands.
      It's a magic feeling when you're able to ride a bike correctly.

    • @CBRiderGaming
      @CBRiderGaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is not a problem if your ergo set correctly and you have proper body positioning. That is purely from bad lessons learned in riding and managing weight properly.

  • @neegee82
    @neegee82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1396

    I admire these motorists,... not for the usual reasons (skills/speed/etc) But for their mental state of mind : taking precise calculated risks, under enormous pressure and all this while on an ADRENALINE level regular people cant even comprehend! These species of humans have a complete different outlook of what it feels like to be ALIVE! much respect!

    • @vlladellu
      @vlladellu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      what about those maniacs in TT Isle of Man?! This is adrenaline?!?! Watch those lunatics.

    • @willbarlas6216
      @willbarlas6216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I don’t race bikes, but I do race quads at 70 mph ish in woods. The adrenaline is so intense and tbh it’s knowing one wrong move and ur mince. Rider knows his shit haha

    • @graxo3752
      @graxo3752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dude most bikers would love to ride a track. I want to take my cbr 600 f4i put there

    • @scott4386
      @scott4386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@willbarlas6216 🌲🌳👀🌲🌳👀🌲🧐🌲👁👁🦌🦌🦌

    • @nickjohns1192
      @nickjohns1192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vlladellu that's on a scale of its own.
      No other race like it
      Fucking nutters!!!
      Bet the can't get life insurance 😂😂

  • @haterhater420
    @haterhater420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    It’s so fun to watch the 1000’s pull off on the straights and then when the corners come up, the 600 has no problem taking the inside or even the outside and passing them up. Nice race!

    • @CJRSBK
      @CJRSBK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Bull shit that's a myth ......isle of man TT has over 200 corners ....oh and guess what holds the lap record 😂 1000cc

    • @WontSeeReplies
      @WontSeeReplies 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That logic certainly applies to snowmobiles and MX. But pavement allows for a way more forgiving tolerances. You aren’t battling for traction. You don’t have to be great on pavement to be fast.
      I went from untouched in MX unless they had 3x the money, to supermoto where it more or less comes down to YOUR grip of your rubber. Much easier.

    • @pie0man
      @pie0man 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CJRSBK Depends on the track... We have two tracks around my town. The larger, faster track lap record belongs to the 1000 but the smaller, tighter track's lap record is held by a 600.

    • @laurasanchez7105
      @laurasanchez7105 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CJRSBK Not disagreeing because I don't know too much about motorcycles and leaning and stuff, but isle of man doesn't have a lot of steep corners. It has like 5 corners they actually have to properly brake for

    • @friktionrc
      @friktionrc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reminds me of the Mini vs Yank Tank battles around Goodwood…..down the straights the Yank Tanks pull away with ease…but then have to brake way sooner allowing the tiny Mini to catch up and fly past in the corners…only for the YTs to repeat the process in the straights again lol
      Great fun as a spectator, even more so as a driver I’d imagine 😂

  • @GrowthCurveMarketing
    @GrowthCurveMarketing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gotta have the ponies when the course straightens, but so much fun to see you out-braking and out-cornering. Thanks for the great vid.

  • @domkirk4408
    @domkirk4408 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Absolut geil! Dir zuzuschauen hat mehr Spaß gemacht als jedes MotoGP Rennen was ich gesehen habe.

  • @the_pumpkin_head
    @the_pumpkin_head 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Shows the difference between having a fast bike, and being a fast rider. Great job!

  • @rotatorix
    @rotatorix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +517

    A lot of fun watching this video. Looks like the typical arcade racing game were the difficulty level of the AI is only based on how fast they are in straight line.

  • @RiskyIOM
    @RiskyIOM ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is so much fun to watch. I love the way you have the beating of the bigger bikes everywhere except the straights, and even then you often get them straight back on the brakes at the end of the straight. Great riding and you must be having so much fun out there.

    • @Noob-Splaining
      @Noob-Splaining 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thats because bigger bikes are best on the straight but can't turn for sh!t, smaller bikes can dance through the pack but don't have that straight line power.

    • @RiskyIOM
      @RiskyIOM 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Noob-Splaining user name checks out

    • @Noob-Splaining
      @Noob-Splaining 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RiskyIOM LOL thanks, it's actually a 40k Channel I run and it's a satirical take on man-splaining I meant to use my non work channel for the comment.

    • @RiskyIOM
      @RiskyIOM 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Noob-Splaining Yeah I realised you weren't be entirely serious!

  • @scotty_beast_rider
    @scotty_beast_rider 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was brilliant to watch... Really enjoyed. Thanks for sharing ☺️

  • @davtona
    @davtona ปีที่แล้ว +450

    Really interesting to watch your riding style evolve to accommodate the shorter braking distances and earlier power on points you can get away with on the 600, you were also slower flipping the bike through left/right chicanes initially due to the higher mass and CoG you were used to on the 1000. Great job! (Ex-675 rider here btw).

    • @NotABot-px7ky
      @NotABot-px7ky ปีที่แล้ว +2

      there has never been a bike i want more than a 675r but theyll probably be extinct by the time its a good idea for me to get one

    • @mint_au
      @mint_au ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NotABot-px7ky dads got a track 675r and loves it mroe then any other bike hes owned over the past 30 years of riding and 20 plus bikes hes had

    • @righty-o3585
      @righty-o3585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's an entire small bikes worth difference in power

    • @salsasnacker
      @salsasnacker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@NotABot-px7ky triples have such nice characteristics for spirited riding. I'm on my 2nd triple now, I'd like to add a 675R as a track bike though. I really hope triumph launch it again some day. Considering they already sell the street triple throwing some fairings, clipons, higher rearsets and different gear ratios on it wouldn't be too difficult for them.

  • @tokio98hotel1
    @tokio98hotel1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The man behind the wheel, actually behind the handlebar, makes all the difference. Way to go!!

  • @axial1015
    @axial1015 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I have great respect for you bikers that can race around like this, (ive only ever driven a car). Never in a million years would I have the confidence to be able to go the best part of 130mph with the floor just a foot away like that, good race!

    • @vojtarewew
      @vojtarewew ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its kmh, not mph

    • @axial1015
      @axial1015 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@vojtarewew Its still bloody fast either way xD

    • @andrewpow5663
      @andrewpow5663 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@axial1015 no

    • @birddaddydetta
      @birddaddydetta 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andrewpow5663 Yes it is lol

    • @mrnobody1546
      @mrnobody1546 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@andrewpow5663 it is fast lol😂

  • @handkiteorimgone7789
    @handkiteorimgone7789 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Geiles rennen von euch beiden :D Die Verteidigung vom fahrer vor dir war richtig gut, aber dein Farhstyle ist echt nice :D Und vor allem mit einem Bike was du nicht mal so gut kennst

  • @The_Sly_Potato
    @The_Sly_Potato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Watching this is much more entertaining than watching the big boys hands down. I was rooting for ya the whole time! Good racing man!

  • @johnc.hammersticks
    @johnc.hammersticks ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Watching how low you really get in the corners and transferring from a right to left that quick is amazing. I ride dirtbikes, supermoto and have ridden many street bikes but this is amazing skills.

  • @MrKeimz
    @MrKeimz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, I felt like i was right there with you, great race and sportmanship!

  • @Ferrari255GTO
    @Ferrari255GTO ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You can really tell how much more agile the bike is, it's almost dangeorus because you basically overtook mostly by dive bombing in the inside abusing the far shorter braking distance. The guy on first was really pushing his bike too, amazing defense and pushing hard on the throttle out of corners.

    • @Delalcon
      @Delalcon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      more agile? Shorter braking distance? This was pure rider skill, these bikes barely weigh kilograms more than eachother.

    • @Ferrari255GTO
      @Ferrari255GTO 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Delalcon dude, he might not be bad, but he says it himself on the video if i remeber correctly, the lower weight is a huge advantage in braking and cornering since a lighter frame/engine allows the rider more control over the bike, and when it comes to bikes 10Kgs are notizable just like 100 is on cars

    • @Chenzooo
      @Chenzooo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@Ferrari255GTO
      Currently a 1000 isn't less agile than a 600..
      We have left 2008

    • @Ferrari255GTO
      @Ferrari255GTO 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Chenzooo so, we ignore the laws of physics now?

  • @eze1738
    @eze1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    what a sick race. all the overtakes 👌🏾🔥🔥

  • @markgilgorobat5296
    @markgilgorobat5296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Watching you in a race was way more enjoyable than watching a movie. Thanks mate

  • @melchner19
    @melchner19 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The same would happen to me when I had my 450 on mx tracks. I was getting passed by 250s. I traded down to a less powerful powerful bike, developed my skills, have more fun, with no desire to move up. It’s more fun to ride a smaller bike at 100% than a big bike at 80% imo

  • @Drunkcaster
    @Drunkcaster 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hammer Video, das geht ja ab wie sau, da braucht man sicherlich übertrieben viel Können, Mut und wahrscheinlich auch etwas Wahnsinn. ✌

  • @whisdumbnowbitch7301
    @whisdumbnowbitch7301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +732

    1000cc riders dont hate on 600cc. The 600cc is just faster in corners and can be trashed around corners without wipeouts, 1000cc is harder to push around corners under powerband. Under lean angles smaller cc bike performs better than bigger cc bike, the 600cc delivers better cornering power under load without wiping out, where 1000cc cant be pushed too much under cornering because it's got too much hp and torque for your cornering.

    • @ethanzink6455
      @ethanzink6455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      absolutely wrong

    • @smoke05s
      @smoke05s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ethanzink6455 Please explain

    • @ethanzink6455
      @ethanzink6455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@smoke05s no such thing as to much power just dont crack it open as much until you starting to stand up

    • @aziizuljas3746
      @aziizuljas3746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      maybe its depend on the rider skills also actually

    • @whisdumbnowbitch7301
      @whisdumbnowbitch7301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@aziizuljas3746 Agreed but if you never rode a smaller CC and hop on the 1000cc you wont do so good. The skill is learned with a smaller displacement engine better. If you know a thing or two about tire contact to road surface under load and lean angles with 600cc and 1000cc lol.

  • @laz1go286
    @laz1go286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Your braking zones rock dude! Awesome onboard,thanks for the upload!

  • @pinpoint0
    @pinpoint0 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is like my ASMR. Love the sound, great video. Definitely inspiring me to learn!

  • @stig5763
    @stig5763 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I smiled so heavy when you took the lead. Well done.

  • @CEKISBACKmetalTV
    @CEKISBACKmetalTV ปีที่แล้ว +31

    You get faster and more precise when entering corners with each lap !!! Really fun to watch !!!

  • @zakking5654
    @zakking5654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    honestly i was at the edge of my seat the entire time i love those battles for the next place ahead. as a seasoned rider but never had the chance to ride track. nothing is more exciting than hitting those corners as hard as you can. those moments where you feel like rossi.

  • @jazzochannel
    @jazzochannel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is first time for me watching the footage from a helmet on a race like this. it's so much better than how they cover these events on tv, though i'm sure the tech has improved with drones and what not.

  • @lipokyanger7685
    @lipokyanger7685 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The way you brake late but still make the turn cleanly and then carry so much speed exiting the turn is unbelievably good.

  • @zijiapan931
    @zijiapan931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Wow!!! After the 2nd lap your riding was so smooth and u hug the apex so tight neat and clean. Great riding mate.

  • @DVerial
    @DVerial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    What a blast watching you! I remember my first days at the track with my 07 R6, I used to beat the 1000ccs on lap time and on the track cause I could brake later and accelerate faster on corner exits! They were mad at me for some reason! Now I am an old dad with a 2015 z1000 which is more powerful but never as easy to drive as that old r6.. good times.

    • @metallicknight2
      @metallicknight2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I hear you. My older CBR 600 was a lot easier to play with on windy roads than my current ride, a Yamaha 900 triple. It just doesn't corner as efficiently and cleanly as that 600 did. Then again... Supersport VS sport.

    • @nolaboyneworleans4life464
      @nolaboyneworleans4life464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Man ain’t that the truth. I use to destroy 1000s on my 04 GSXR600. Road the Tail of the Dragon 🐉 (AKA) Deals Gap 318 turns in 11 miles. I Won a lot of money being the far more technical rider. Ride your ride, ride safe two wheels on highway. Peace Gents!!!

    • @arnopetralia6618
      @arnopetralia6618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Dverial I still ride the 07 R6. I was planning on selling the bike but I'm just having to much fun with it :) And just like you said, you can smoke 95% of the 1000 bikes on a regular trackday.

    • @althor9997
      @althor9997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I had an 03 r6. Man I loved that thing.
      I'll never forget a drag race against my buddy's 1200 Harley.
      We were dead even off the line, and I let the clutch out fully at about 40. Bike went 12 o clock. Tapped the tire down and hit 2nd. 12 o clock, touch, 3rd, 12 o clock, I look over and he's looking at me with his mouth hanging wide open.
      Man, was my adrenaline going after that

    • @arnopetralia6618
      @arnopetralia6618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@althor9997 right on!!!

  • @nikoskosmas3200
    @nikoskosmas3200 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You reminded me of an Era where VR46 before entering a turn he was like he is not braking compere to others in front of him..and also reminded me of his Yamaha that was faster entering and faster inside turn but in the straight was weak. Of course its not a comparison but it is some parallel story as here...Great riding man keep it up!

  • @carmichaelt2762
    @carmichaelt2762 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn man... that was some bad ass riding! Smooth inputs all the way! Cheers!

  • @DanielBrown-yw5zc
    @DanielBrown-yw5zc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    i felt like i was in this race myself lmao bro i drank my entire coffee in like 20 seconds lmao the rush was crazy had me leaning left and right in my chair this was so DOPE!!!!!!!

  • @DeepBlueSpirit2
    @DeepBlueSpirit2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Such a great video! Loved all of it!! Maybe add a little frame somewhere in the video to show the angle your are not covering with the main view - meaning when the main frame is looking forward have another small rectangle showing what happens behind you :)))

  • @weejim48
    @weejim48 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From my limited experience of track riding( 25 track days with tuition), it doesn’t matter what size engine bike you ride. If you can’t use the power it’s no good to you. I had a dedicated GSXR600 for the track and would regularly be hitting the rev limiter. But when I took my Gixer thou on the same track I couldn’t use the power the same. In fact there were a couple of pro 125 racers there and they carried so much speed through the corners it was unreal. I managed to reel them back in on the big long straight but the did me every time in the corners. So don’t beat yourselves up about it. It just shows how good these lads are. 👍👍

  • @Zaber_Za
    @Zaber_Za 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What an absolute pleasure to have watched,thank you!

  • @mauser8515
    @mauser8515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Excellent throttle and brake control. Your bike seems very stable. Congrats on the good day on the track.

  • @adrianoaraujo7945
    @adrianoaraujo7945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Very nice riding! I can tell that you got tired at the end but it's totally understandable because the battle was brutal. Nicely done. I used to race with a zx10 and i miss doing it. Greetings from Brazil

  • @PJCCC100
    @PJCCC100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great driving there. Thanks for sharing.

  • @pneeb32
    @pneeb32 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool video. It was always the same experience for me at Laguna Seca, Buttonwillow, Sears, and Thunderhill on my Kawasaki 636. Fun time's. Great riding.

  • @esk8ooligan
    @esk8ooligan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love that acceleration and deceleration sound of the engine on these bikes. Always love to hear it in the area when a street rider winds them up. Love the cameras angles. Nothing like dragging a knee in the corner.

  • @Amerigo73
    @Amerigo73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great vid, thank you! The 600cc is so fast in the turns, I love it.

  • @philippw5981
    @philippw5981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great drive. I really love Oschersleben. One of my favourite tracks. You could drop your lap time by 2 seconds easily, if you would hold the line in turn 2 and 6. A litte bit late on throttle.

  • @vichitobonitodelsolarinost4421
    @vichitobonitodelsolarinost4421 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    por eso las curvas en las pistas son tan lindas, ahi es donde te das cuenta quien es que de verdad sabe conducir. pd te felicito, increible las tomas que pudiste captar

  • @suhaskashyap8164
    @suhaskashyap8164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Awesome riding bro! Loved watching the video.. Giving competition to 1000cc vehicles.. like Dom said 'It doesn't depend on the ride, it depends on the rider!'

    • @Sinister_fartbox
      @Sinister_fartbox ปีที่แล้ว

      No he said basically that a Prius could race a charger

  • @sparty94
    @sparty94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that's some killer camera work, really captured the sound too. nice job!

  • @edge929
    @edge929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Story of my life. Liter bikes pass you on the straights and park it in the corners. Very frustrating but at least it forces you to learn how to pass going into the corners.

  • @markuss4133
    @markuss4133 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cooles video. Danke. Habs echt genossen. Superb driving. To be honest, you must have hated it the most as your driving was superior

  • @NonyaBiz69420
    @NonyaBiz69420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love this video. Thanks for putting it together. Would be killer to see PIP with the rear view.

  • @kennethhowell5291
    @kennethhowell5291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All great professionals and perfect gentlemen in racing. It is a real pleasure to see the greats race. Thank you!

  • @luckiestpeoplecaughtoncamera
    @luckiestpeoplecaughtoncamera ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally jaw-dropping, and I opened my eyes really wide on a couple of them!

  • @robertsmithington8892
    @robertsmithington8892 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Great racing! I went from a 600, to 1000, back to a 600 for the reasons demonstrated here. On the road, it’s just too difficult and unsafe to use all of the power of a 1000, but it’s easy to utilize the the diverse potential of a 600. Same with my cars; went up to 800whp, but came back down to 550whp because I had more fun in the 550whp on the road.

    • @kool4209
      @kool4209 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      not really lol your 600 is capped the 1000 has 400 to spare. Youre insecurities withhold you back, they dont others.

    • @mathiase.7096
      @mathiase.7096 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@kool4209 and - maybe - that's cool, to stay alive!

    • @kool4209
      @kool4209 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mathiase.7096 Gotta risk it to get the biscuit. Dont complain about racing when youre not using the full extent of your motorcycle......much like a skater that can only do tricks standing still vs moving and grinding..........

    • @mathiase.7096
      @mathiase.7096 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@kool4209 Where is your racing-video? Do you perform better? I'd like to watch it - You know nothing about me. Reading big words seems only to waist my time...

    • @kool4209
      @kool4209 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mathiase.7096 I dont have to ride that to see it......., I know youre not that fking stupid....... If youve ever been to a track then youve seen guys to extra low leans and excessive maneuvers....................... clown. Just like a trick group use to bust out in my work parking lot.

  • @albind.386.
    @albind.386. ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How smooth you guys take the curves. Respect to All of you.

  • @10INCHCRUSHER
    @10INCHCRUSHER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    . This dude is racing in just 2nd and 3rd. Riding skills are on point. Showed a lot of patience. Reminds me of the GSXR days when the 1100's and 750's were going at it just like these guys are. I'm not gonna lie, the 600 scared the crap out of me. I was a 750 guy. Great video man. VR46

    • @kevins1552
      @kevins1552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      why did you end the comment with VR46?

    • @Solid_Snake09
      @Solid_Snake09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@kevins1552 Cuz hes rossi .

    • @kevins1552
      @kevins1552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Solid_Snake09 xd

    • @gilmadrid6322
      @gilmadrid6322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can you explain to a not motorcyclist, why the 600 scares you but the 750 doesn’t?

    • @10INCHCRUSHER
      @10INCHCRUSHER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@gilmadrid6322 The 600 is lighter. When I was riding, I was 5"8 155. Those guys that ride are at least 6"2 and at the very least 20 pounds heavier. They can get on top of the bike, I couldn't, but I knew where to tuck to make up for it. I know it sounds weird, but weight distribution is huge. So for me, the 750 was the most comfortable . I had the 90 GXSR 750 and that bike fit me like a glove. I felt bad for the pros because they were almost riding a trike.

  • @Taz6688
    @Taz6688 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome riding, really working hard there, the ride was fantastic, shame about the end.

  • @si2u263
    @si2u263 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep on a circuit like that a 600 is totally at home with all the corners & flicking.
    When the 1000s briefly edge ahead on the straights, it's advantage is soon lost with the next corner and the more nimble 600s braking action.
    Locally I used to do similar at Kirkistown on a 600, it feels great annoying bigger cc's 😁
    Nice riding btw!

  • @kbeightyseven1783
    @kbeightyseven1783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Obviously depends on which circuit, on a longer circuit it wouldn't be an issue for the 1000cc bikes, love your videos!

  • @JacMoves
    @JacMoves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great riding. Smooth transitions and the downshifts between turns blew my mind lol. Makes me miss it.

  • @pablociocca690
    @pablociocca690 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing, new subscriber bro, keep it up. Skills, thats what you have. Hella from down south Uruguay! big hug man keep it up!. U a dope ass rider. Much respect, dat 600 be sick in your hands.

  • @joheyo
    @joheyo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Soooo smoothe!
    And excellent riding;)

  • @brucehenrinkundineza7082
    @brucehenrinkundineza7082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your breaking and cornering are on top !

  • @AuProspecting-Scotland
    @AuProspecting-Scotland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    you figured out their slowest points and out braked them, you could see them shake their heads as you passed, loved it.

    • @iamnobody9001
      @iamnobody9001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You watched the video too?

  • @alasdairmacdonald9221
    @alasdairmacdonald9221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just comes down to rider skill, I ride my R6 and on the tracks here mostly turns so I've always been ahead. Great riding and fun to watch!

  • @AchillesofAchilles
    @AchillesofAchilles ปีที่แล้ว

    Boy, them pants look tight. Gotta love the feeling of being that guy. When I played baseball I remember days like this. Pulled strong!

  • @hadadat1
    @hadadat1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Damn I straight up just watched this whole thing .......it was like meditation I totally relaxed and spaced out watching this...... .I want a bike now

    • @chrisgunther109
      @chrisgunther109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Relaxed? I was on edge the whole time.

  • @antoniom_sports7971
    @antoniom_sports7971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Einer der geilsten Videos auf TH-cam. Echt geil man, weiter so!

  • @christiandeleo7737
    @christiandeleo7737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome race, my hart started to race at point.. very skilled, well done!!

  • @HFD-Doc
    @HFD-Doc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how @11:40 the 1000cc biker in front of him clearly slowed way down in the middle of corner just to throw off his attack and speed coming onto the straight. Going through that corner the dude was looking behind him the whole time basically brake checking him. Definitely a DB move when you are in front and have 400cc on the guy behind.

  • @akilagun1
    @akilagun1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    wow. Impressive riding :) your corner speed is like a Demon!!

  • @armandoruiz942
    @armandoruiz942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is why I love my 600! Good riding, good times!

  • @TheGazza636
    @TheGazza636 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic corner speed .just amazing how them engines can take a thrashing like that. Best on board vid I’ve seen

  • @yobbawanna6565
    @yobbawanna6565 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:47 the way your bike sounded when you shifted down to second, sounds like a musical instrument.

  • @foxbustertv4437
    @foxbustertv4437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really admire your ridingskills, good job!

  • @JOSHVO97
    @JOSHVO97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    Amazing riding skills and great push! In my opinion the best track bikes are 600cc. They lack power on straights vs a 1000cc for sure but for a track with technical corners a 600cc will perform better. My opinion though.

    • @jmap9821
      @jmap9821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Yes it perform better but, if a pro rider ride a 1000cc vs a 600cc with a pro rider also. 1000cc always win

    • @phatrides222000
      @phatrides222000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      GSXR 750 is probably the best of both worlds on the track. Also a triple is amazing. I had an FZ09 and the torque was just insane considering the engine.

    • @jackmack322
      @jackmack322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@jmap9821 agreed, a pro on a 600cc through skill can challenge 1000cc. but a pro on 1000cc isnt going to be challenged by anything other then another pro on 1000cc

    • @theweejr
      @theweejr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackmack322 wat about pro on 1300cc

    • @jbacus1
      @jbacus1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theweejr too much bike. 1000 super bike out perform a sport touring bike providing the rider knows how to ride.

  • @trackdaylbs
    @trackdaylbs หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really good riding there! I thread-lock and tamper paint everything now because bolts and screws really like to undo themselves! 😆

  • @garybroom8418
    @garybroom8418 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow got swaety palms watching that - great work. Loving the front door key rattling around!

  • @davidavery6215
    @davidavery6215 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As a new rider your confidence in throwing the bike around at those speeds and angles astonishes me I hope to get there one day

    • @maomekat2369
      @maomekat2369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't not safe. One friend very experienced had bad accident

    • @Ouhayottoko
      @Ouhayottoko 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maomekat2369I’m sorry about your friend. But this guy isn’t your friend

    • @zacharykirkham9481
      @zacharykirkham9481 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maomekat2369yeah everyone who gets on a bike should be ok crashing or they shouldnt be on a bike ignorance vs acceptance

  • @Buckarooskiczek
    @Buckarooskiczek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I think maybe the liter bikers hate your skills! It was fun to watch someone who is so smooth and consistent…had to watch all of it.

  • @moparsrule862
    @moparsrule862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't enjoyed anything on TH-cam this much in a long time the only way to watch a race

  • @sirsancti5504
    @sirsancti5504 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm just here for the exhaust note(s).
    Thank you very much.

  • @johnbarron4265
    @johnbarron4265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Cornering responsiveness and cornering speed are the most important factors in determining lap times. The quicker you can lean your bike into a turn, and the more lean angle the bike has at the apex, the faster it will go around the entire track. The 600cc, being a narrower bike, allows you to lean slightly more and go slightly faster in the turns. The 600cc also has less rotational inertia, so you can lean quicker and load up the g-force for the turns quicker than a 1000cc rider can. This track appears to be better suited to the performance characteristics of the 600cc bike, as there are many low speed turns and the straights aren't very long.

    • @jiboo6850
      @jiboo6850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i agree for road bikes but not for MotoGP bikes. if you look at Assen race in 2002, Rossi was toying with Barros on the 990cc RC211V and Barros was on the 500 NSR. the track was a very fast flowing track back then. he was following him in the corners and sandbagging on the straight for the whole race and passed him only 2 or 3 laps from the end. 25kg and 40hp difference between the 2 bikes. the difference with road bikes is in the weight distribution and engine inertia because MotoGP bikes engines run backwards which cancels a big amount of inertia. making the 990cc as flickable as the 500.

    • @TheInfantry98
      @TheInfantry98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No your wrong genius. Less lean angle means more speed. Why you think 93 hangs off the bike so much ?

  • @ZackBadCompany1234
    @ZackBadCompany1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I enjoyed watching this over any motogp! Loved it!!

  • @chevisloyal1567
    @chevisloyal1567 ปีที่แล้ว

    God this is the dream, I wanna track my sumo so bad I’ve only ever ridden street but I want to work to be talented and dedicated like this bro. Crazy race loved every second of it.

  • @oscardduenas7003
    @oscardduenas7003 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed your race 🙌🏻 sorry about your brakes!!!