I have a question about your GSXR 600 you said it was 125 horsepower, I wonder is that at the crank because about a month and a half ago I had my 750 Dyno tuned flashed and remapped at two Wheels Dyno works, And I got 124.3 horsepower 55.4 torque. 🤔
Hell yess!!!! That's a long list for sure, but a great idea for an episode!!!! Not just bang for the buck, but still BETTER!!! (Better being a subjective term assigned by Yam, Spite, Whitney, and Josh) Would be a great episode or even series! Great call out Fuzzy Gaming!!!!!🙌 😎
Lol Do You mean, "Squib"? Which is the term for people on bikes who are gonna blow up sooner or later. A Squib is a slow burning fuse... which is why the term "Squib = no glove, riding in jeans, no boots, open face helmet or no helmet. No endorsement, No riding classes, no defensive driving classes, = injuries, or death, applies. How does "Squid" apply to riders? Squid is the lowest form of Marine life.
I rode a 636 back in the day but as I was swapping around loads of bikes all the time I couldn't really tell the difference between most 600's. The Honda's always seemed to have the stronger midrange of the 600's I rode a lot and they were the only ones that I nearly highsided in the dry on the road and track. I swapped one of the cams on my old F3 with a later one which didn't really give anymore hp but moved it up the revs a bit and made it easier to ride on the limit. For me the whole point of a 600 is you can get away with murder on the throttle and not worry about getting spat off. The Yamaha's always seemed to give the best most useable engines for my riding style. If I get back into riding I would like to perhaps get hold of a 636 B1H, I love the looks and they are sharp. At the time I was looking I'd got bored of 600's and bought the ZX10R instead, too much for the road but with mods was the most awesome bike I've ever ridden on the track especially with the slicks on. I think any modern 600 won't disappoint as long as everything is working as it should, all of them from the year 2000 on are excellent pieces of kit.
@@jonathontsamantanis Totally Agree, Ninjas will always hold their place! The R6 is by no means my favorite bike, I am just on my knees by its aesthetics ;)
The r6 is so cool cause they made it look like the R1. Most of the R6 riders just wish they had the R1. I was lucky enough to take over my brothers payments on his 2018 R1. Went from my 2018 gsxr600 to the R1. Weighing in at 138 with full gear on the R1 was absolutely insane. Rode the hell out of it daily, aftermarket rearsets help the comfort level. Also adjusting the suspension to your weight helps tremendously.
Cbr 600rr was my first bike, rode that thing even when there was snow on the ground it always tore it up, fast af though you need at least a sliver of discipline to own one or it’ll make you pay
Got an 04 Zx6r previous owner put on full ohlins suspension, aftermarket exhaust, Quick shifter and drove it, not limiter and wheelies. 37 000miles on it. Not smoke no oil burn. Still solid with top end at 167mph. Be carfull in 1st and 2de gear it wants to power wheelie. I love it!!! Sleeps in the livingroom( all bikes must be kept safe and warm!)
My father had 2 bandit 600f’s and a single 1200S. He actually preferred the 600s. Just found them more fun in the corners and usable. But all of them according to him were bullet proof.
The 2007-8 Zx6-R (the one with the 599CC) is 405lbs wet and makes over 120hp with the jumper mod (literally takes 10 seconds and a paper clip to do) which puts it way ahead of many of the older 600s.
Absolutely love mine. I have an 08 and with the few mods (intake, full exhaust, power commander, jumper mod, sprocket change) it hangs with 1ks until about 130-135. The other nice thing is with it weighing so much less, it’s so much fun to throw around; more so than a liter bike
I've owned 3 636's. A newer 2015 and two 06's. They are by far the best 600 I have ever ridden. I might be a little biased but they are hands down the best bang for your buck.
I have a 97 bandit 1200 and i love the fact that you mentioned it in this list not bery many people talk about them id love to see you do a video on older pre 2000 bikes
I got into this channel because i bought an 02 Bandit 1200s a month ago, you've really taught me a ton of stuff and ive been riding on the street since 1996 at 17. My second bike in 2007 was a YZF600R and it was my first "sport bike" and i was a squid for sure living in Norfolk and VA beach, not the navy type either. I accidentally wheelied the 600R multiple times but haven't popped up the Bandit 1200s yet, not trying to, but its definitely an amazing bike. Its came to me upgraded with everything Dale Walker related (5*timing, full exhaust, stage 2 jets with KN pods) and pushing 130hp and 80 ft./lbs supposedly plus A corny round scooter tail box and 18k miles all for 2K. Threw some new Road pilot 4 GTs on it and have been happier than i have been in over a decade, thanks for helping me remember my first love. Almost 1200 miles in under a month and i only come home to love on my dog and get him outside, license test tomorrow!! Better go study. I want a Papa Yams sticker, do you sell them? With the old yam face and beard/glasses? Ill go look but wanted to ask.
As an owner of a zx6r, tuned with full akrapovic it is considerably more powerful than most of my riding buddies 600s. Yamaha seems to be a little more torquey on the bottom but once the bikes hit 10k my zx pulls off. I also can pull second gear wheelies at 100+, they cant get the front end up after 80-85.
@@chrishoonbag8844 idk about the ninja but my r6 will do 100 in first and like 120 -130 in second so I don't know where your getting that it only does 70 in second lmao
You know the funny thing is I just bought a 2008 Triumph Daytona 675 and I was nervous if I made the right choice but this video made me feel better about it. Now I know mines not an “R” but it’s got the same motor so I’m still pretty happy
Picked up my new 636 two days ago, so far loving it. Very comfortable for a supersport. The only criticisms I have is it gets hot quick (it's winter here in Sydney) and the led headlights seem to be less effective around town than my other bike's halogens.
Try changeing the thermostat,might be faulty..Seeing you also dont go below zero in your winter,try either engine ice or watter wettef and distilled water....Make sure you bone up on house to do a good flush before change coolant..Dump factory rubber hoses and get some hoses from samco..By far better product..
@@avi8r944 I would still consider (if available to you over in aussy land)Engine ice,or diluted water with a mix of water wetter..Google both to see what fits your needs but do it after kawi takes a look and decides..
In 2011 I bought my first bike. It was a 600…. My specifically it was a 2011 Red Daytona 675. I fell in love with that bike. I can’t sell it… it just sit in my garage under a cover. The engine is so forgiving, the exhaust note is intoxicating, and the chassis… well… the chassis has a split personality. If you push the envelope it will love you, care for you, and reassure you. If you just take it out for a slow leisurely ride, it will try to kill you.
Yammie, thanks for mentioning the Yamaha Thundercat, learned a lot on that bike. Was my first bike, and loved it. But my Gixxer 1000-K6, is so much better.
Well I can confidently say I’ve been called out by yammie noob 3 times in one video now, being the guy who started on a Bandit 600 doing top speed runs in a Tshirt on the highway...
The cbr600f4i shown at 12:20 was the predecessor to the cbr600rr not the 650f. They sold so well honda kept them in production yrs after the 600rr was introduced. I owned a 2002 sport model with the split seat. Great bikes.
@Police Corruption you noobs need to know that cc doesnt decide the speed or torque even harley and indian motorcyles are more than 1000cc but those motobikes cant even catch up a duke250
picked up a 98 thundercat for $400 with no fairings chopped the tail turning it into a street fighter definitely cut some weight off , stage 3 kit , shorty exhaust and a stage 3 kit , it's a little monster really fun to ride and the front wheel likes to come up
@Police Corruption What road in the United States has a speed limit of 193 mph? Sure, on a track you'll beat a 650 any day, but I'm talking about practical applications like on a highway where a group ride might consist of speeds of 80-90 mph.
I really like the Ninja 650 (looks and ergos) but the lawnmower sound IL2 engines make is a huge turnoff. Here's to hoping Kawasaki will release a CP2 version like Yamahaa's MT-07...
@@maluinthe90s depends who you ride with 😏.. If you're with a bunch of 1000cc super bikes i guarantee they'll go 90 mph for like 10sec spurts.. and the rest of the trip will be 130+.
I bought my first bike, a 02 YZF600R, with 4000 miles for 1800 bucks. It was a great first bike and recommend to anyone that doesn't mind dealing with carbs
Moved up from a ninja 400 2 weeks ago to the zx6r. I only started on kawasaki because they had a really good starter bike I had no clue the zx6r reached 175. Regardless I love kawasaki and the way they do things.
This is the type of content that makes Yammie the one true Papa Noob. Does all the research for us, hilarious but fair and true presentation that even those that are being made fun of would agree with!
@@radgeh5924 Yeah, that makes sense. If it's a later model, that translates to low to mid 150's actual. Still plenty fast... I have been riding on the street since the mid 1990's, and owned 28 bikes in that time... done around 350k miles on street and track, and I am constantly amazed by how many people make wild claims, and simply don't know that much about the bikes that they own... Not you necessarily, just in general... 600's are amazing bikes and supremely capable on the street and track. But they are not high top speed monsters... To push through the air you need solid aero, and most of all, POWER. The faster you go, the more the air pushes back, so the more power you need to go faster, which then has the air pushing back even more, etc... It's why Bugatti had to add 200hp, just to get the Veyron to go another 7mph. 200hp, for 7mph...
I'm continually blown away by the fact that new 600's still can't keep up with my 17 year old gsxr 750, that I bought dirt cheap several years ago. 145hp stock, 64 lb-ft tq, 426# (or whatever) wet. 75k on the motor, losing compression, still spanking bikes on the mountain and at the track that cost 5x-15x what I paid for her every weekend that I'm free to ride. Guess that modern production ICE bikes are near their max potential limit...
It's called torque. A 750 always has more of it than any 600. 600s have more HP and weigh less than older models, but they still don't have the torque. Liter bikes from 20 years ago are still faster than 600s and 750s because of... torque.
First mod on a gsxr should be flashing the computer to keep the secondary throttle plate open more than 20% through the power band... Factory tune only gives full throttle potential in 2nd and part of third... Very annoying considering it does have a A/b mode for bad road conditions and such. Just my opinion.
For 3 years I had been daily commuting with a Inazuma 250, until months ago when it was stolen and burnt. I had to buy a new bike in a hurry as there are no transports to my work. Found a nice dealer and got a Bandit GSF 600 S 2002. I love it despite the carbs. I cracked hard when you said it's got 2 wheels, engine, goes and stops.
I think the best 600cc super bike is a 2004-05 Suzuki gsx-r 600cc and it’s very impressive bc my 04 gsx-r topped out at 186-187 mph and it only had a slip-on and power Commander and it had 110-115hp
It was always between an r6 and a zx6 for me. Finally traded in my 13 zx6 for a 21 zx6 in April then immediately hear the r6 is dead. I really hate the r7 function wise, but I get that the person who wants an in-line 4 isn’t gonna be the kind of person who wants an r7.
@@M82Predator enjoy your 6R. I've only had 900 and 1000 cc bikes, including ZX9R and my current ZX10R. They're honestly way more power than you can ever use on the street. It's almost pointless. But I'm addicted to speed and acceleration so I can't help it.
How about a video about good bikes for tall people? Being 6'2" myself it is usually a bit cramped, and I am sure there are more with this problem. Love your vids, keep up the good work.
The overall hight isn't usually the problem, but rather the psition of the pegs causing my my knees to be bend so they hurt after like an hour of riding, but thanks though 🙌
Have a look at sport touring bikes. Im 6'6" and bought a cbr1100xx blackbird for that reason. I've also added lowering pegs and bar risers and its quite comfortable. Also the vfr800s are amazing machines
I have a suggestion - given your audience, content creation etc. Plan a 3 week visit to the isle of man. That would be during practice week, and then the 2 weeks of the TT. Take a crew so its a working holiday. But think you'd find it one of the most rewarding and interesting trips of a lifetime and a treasure trove for content creation and stuff to cap and film.
I have a Thundercat too! Relatively quick for a 600cc bike and super comfortable to ride. Theyre dirt cheap too, got mine under 2k€ and its running perfectly
I've owned a ZX-6R they do not do 175 miles an hour I don't know where you got that information from. That would be faster than a GSXR 750 truth be told they get up to 162 to 165 miles an hour indicated so basically the 157 most mentioned in reality. The power drops off too fast past the power Peak so it cannot pull Redline in Top Gear
What your saying seems more along the lines of correct compared to what he was saying. I've seen numerous videos of newer 636's topping out at 165 & several at 168 and the video by way of title or answering comments said the bike was stock. So more than likely a GPS would say 160 if I had to guess. I've seen 155 and still climbing on a ZX-6E10 or just ZX-6 2002 model and that bike is really old. Wiki say's that bike's top speed is 154.00 and another website said it was 145?
I had a 2006 R6 a few years ago, all i did to it was a race air filter and a funnel exhaust (looked like a funnel with no baffle) would pull an indicated 285km or 177 freedom tickets.
I am with you on the T cat it's a ride all day missile, was speaking to a guy who races and he said T cat lap times on circuits would place mid pack with today's bikes
Came down to the comments to see if anyone else had caught this. Indeed It's the other way around, first gen R6 was based on the YZF600R in so far as it had the same base engine as the Thundercat just tuned differently to produce a bit more power. Also as an extra bit of trivia the first gen R1 used the Thundercat brakes.
Missed out the suzuki gsx650f which is basically a full race faired bandit with a tuned engine 85bhp top end 130. Production ended in 2012 but can puck one up in the uk for about 2k
Those RS660 power numbers are very impressive considering all the liquid cooled 750cc cruisers that put out LESS torque and still less than half the hp.
I've got a 08 GsxR 600 with an exhaust, intake, new chain, and sprockets I've hit 175 on the track. Take THAT! Daytona boy! Also I always wear my gear, so I'm a rare sight on a GsxR
Hell yeah Scott! As a Honda simp myself with both an F2 and F4 (want an F3 too,lol), they are just terrific motorcycles that stand the test of time. Where were going, we don't need "rider control" That's us!!! Hope it's either of us that wins the Fireblade bruh!!!! Should go to a TRUE Honda Boi that will actually be able to ride it, in true appreciation of the family lineage.... Fingers crossed for you too Scott!!!
I am supreamly sad you didnt mention the fz6 which makes the bandit look slow. 599cc 98hp 46 ft lbs toques and a top speed of 142 mph i ride one and love it. It hauls balls and can be comohey for a long ride
For anyone looking at a thundercat look at fzr600 it's 1 generation earlier and if you put thundercat pistons and barrels on it (straight swap) you'll get 105hp at the wheels ish and 13.2:1 compression makes them a rocket ship
Is that the 600R or the early genesis? I have a magazine somewhere where someone got the two FZR engines and did something similar, it gave it a few more cc's. Personally I'd just get the FZR600R and forget the heavy Thundercat, it's a lighter, better bike and will do 155mph stock anyway. Has the bonus of looking like a YZF750R too with the foxeye lights, it is the true predecessor of the R6.
I used to do finance at a massive used motorcycle shop. I have seen PLENTY of grenaded GSX-R600 motors. Our service contract paid for quite a few of them!
02:36 = Nah bruh... i test top speed broad daylite with traffic... in a t shirt, gotta video to prove it... my top speed on my r6 tops out at 160 to 168.. depending on wind, up hill downhill..
I have a CBR600RR. It’s my first bike (and vehicle in general) and it’s lovely! It rips, fast in corners compared to 1000cc. And not only have I been on track with it, I’ve ONLY been on track with it, since there’s still 6 YEARS till I can get my drivers license😢
This made me want to get on my worlds most dangerous 600 and blast through the rain after pounding loads of Red Bull and watching my hero Marc Marquez high side videos.
I loved my 636. Even more then my current Gixxer 1k. The ergos were fairly comfortable at least for my size. I could pull 6 hour rides and feel pretty good.I plan on buying another one eventually just to throw around. I'm partial to plasma blue tho.
I toured on my R6 riding up to 8 hours a day with luggage, no problem. I'm 5'6" and weighed 140lbs at the time. All bikes pretty much fit me, the only ones I don't get on with are old dinosaurs like GPz900's which weigh a ton and everything just seems hard work on. The FZ750 from the same era works really well though, fit some modern wheels and tyres they handle really well.
My precious shammy pubes, can you please put the stats in non freedom units also ? I can live with you just reading the footpound and miles but id love to know what you are even talking about😅
My old zx6r would soon wind in many other 600s that got away quicker of the mark, the older 600s just seem more robust then the newer models but I like them all.
Very informative video, really appreciate your thoughts and inputs. Wanted a bike for years when I was younger(20-25ish) was dead set on a 600. 35 now looking to get into riding thought about a 600 again. But leaning towards a 400 now
The 400 will be good until you go out with your friends on 600's. An ER6 or SV650 would be a good bike to get the rust off and it will keep up in a group as long as the riding is relatively sensible. It's what I'll go with if I start riding again, I'm 45, a 400 twin would get left for dead by both of my cars which cost peanuts so pointless for me. Shamefully riders are so slow these days I can keep up with most bikes on the corners. If I get another bike and I'm that slow that I can't outrun cars I will sell it straight away and get rid of my leathers. My cars are 2 decade old sheds, admittedly one has been used on trackdays and is well setup but even so it's nowhere near as capable as a bike. Doing the corners in a road car you have done on a bike is like going in slow motion.
I would just go with the 636 or other 600. Most 2 cylinders do not have enough power to warrant a sport bike setup. There are more comfortable bikes with similar power.
I am leaving my 2020CBR 500 r for a 600 Kawasaki. The Honda is a really comfortable commuter bike. But that is it . I have put 5000 miles on it in four months. Great starter bike but the affair is over. I plan on telling her in the morning.
Would love a in depth vid on either the Kawi Ninja H2r or the Ducati panigale v4....or combine them both into a vid seeing as they are prolly the two fastest production bikes on the streets rn....could be wrong but would still be sick....pleasee for me!!!!! Lmao
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I have a question about your GSXR 600 you said it was 125 horsepower,
I wonder is that at the crank because about a month and a half ago I had my 750 Dyno tuned flashed and remapped at two Wheels Dyno works,
And I got 124.3 horsepower
55.4 torque.
🤔
Progressive sucks
The Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R is my first bike and I love it
700
New list idea: Bikes whose old models are better than their current ones.
*any early 2000’s Supersport
africa twin
Hayabusas before they put governmental restrictions on them.
Euro4/5 emission rules says all of them
Hell yess!!!! That's a long list for sure, but a great idea for an episode!!!! Not just bang for the buck, but still BETTER!!!
(Better being a subjective term assigned by Yam, Spite, Whitney, and Josh) Would be a great episode or even series! Great call out Fuzzy Gaming!!!!!🙌 😎
Top 600cc Bikes
1:15 - Aprilia RS 660
3:26 - F3 675
4:45 - Triumph Daytona 675
6:08 - Suzuki Gsxr 600
7:30 - Honda CBR600RR
8:44 - Yamaha R6
11:02 - Kawazaki Ninja zx6r
Honorable mention
11:17 - Yamaha YZF R Thundercat
11:45 - Honda CBR600F
12:28 - Suzuki Bandit 600 S
*Cbr650r
zx6r at 10:02
i would reccomend adding the Continental GT 650 on this list..
Royal en isn't competing with any of these bikes. Not even in the same league
As a squid i need to watch the video as fast as possible!!
You know ur a squid when you even do youtube really fast
@@LogicalQ weak…. 2x only
"Sets playback speed to 2x"
😂
Lol Do You mean, "Squib"? Which is the term for people on bikes who are gonna blow up sooner or later. A Squib is a slow burning fuse... which is why the term "Squib = no glove, riding in jeans, no boots, open face helmet or no helmet. No endorsement, No riding classes, no defensive driving classes, = injuries, or death, applies. How does "Squid" apply to riders? Squid is the lowest form of Marine life.
My pick of the 600 class bikes is the 636 Kawasaki ZX6R. That extra 36 cc is very noticeable on the track and street. Looks wise the R6 gets it.
I rode a 636 back in the day but as I was swapping around loads of bikes all the time I couldn't really tell the difference between most 600's. The Honda's always seemed to have the stronger midrange of the 600's I rode a lot and they were the only ones that I nearly highsided in the dry on the road and track. I swapped one of the cams on my old F3 with a later one which didn't really give anymore hp but moved it up the revs a bit and made it easier to ride on the limit. For me the whole point of a 600 is you can get away with murder on the throttle and not worry about getting spat off. The Yamaha's always seemed to give the best most useable engines for my riding style. If I get back into riding I would like to perhaps get hold of a 636 B1H, I love the looks and they are sharp. At the time I was looking I'd got bored of 600's and bought the ZX10R instead, too much for the road but with mods was the most awesome bike I've ever ridden on the track especially with the slicks on.
I think any modern 600 won't disappoint as long as everything is working as it should, all of them from the year 2000 on are excellent pieces of kit.
I agree I got Kawasaki ninja 636 2006 and Honda cbr600rr 2006 both amazing
There's just something about the R6s that make it look so fkn good.
Its all perspective I love the Ninja but hey the R6 is nothing to scoff at
@@jonathontsamantanis Totally Agree, Ninjas will always hold their place! The R6 is by no means my favorite bike, I am just on my knees by its aesthetics ;)
Fucking love my R6 😎. Could be more comfortable though 🤣
You can tell Yamaha is run by engineers and not bean counters
The r6 is so cool cause they made it look like the R1. Most of the R6 riders just wish they had the R1. I was lucky enough to take over my brothers payments on his 2018 R1. Went from my 2018 gsxr600 to the R1. Weighing in at 138 with full gear on the R1 was absolutely insane. Rode the hell out of it daily, aftermarket rearsets help the comfort level. Also adjusting the suspension to your weight helps tremendously.
Cbr 600rr was my first bike, rode that thing even when there was snow on the ground it always tore it up, fast af though you need at least a sliver of discipline to own one or it’ll make you pay
Zzz discipline. No u just dnt ride like an idiot
I’m just now watching this video and seeing these comments, obviously. What makes the cbr more dangerous than the others?
Why that?
Got an 04 Zx6r previous owner put on full ohlins suspension, aftermarket exhaust, Quick shifter and drove it, not limiter and wheelies. 37 000miles on it. Not smoke no oil burn. Still solid with top end at 167mph. Be carfull in 1st and 2de gear it wants to power wheelie. I love it!!! Sleeps in the livingroom( all bikes must be kept safe and warm!)
@Police Corruption lol your one of those
@Lorin Sanchez It was on gps, i know the seedo is never accurate.but thank you
@Lorin Sanchez Oh your one of those people
@Lorin Sanchez ??? not sure what you're n means...
These things rip in 1 st and 2nd I have a 01
My father had 2 bandit 600f’s and a single 1200S. He actually preferred the 600s. Just found them more fun in the corners and usable. But all of them according to him were bullet proof.
100000000 percent agree 👍👍👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺
The 2007-8 Zx6-R (the one with the 599CC) is 405lbs wet and makes over 120hp with the jumper mod (literally takes 10 seconds and a paper clip to do) which puts it way ahead of many of the older 600s.
Absolutely love mine. I have an 08 and with the few mods (intake, full exhaust, power commander, jumper mod, sprocket change) it hangs with 1ks until about 130-135. The other nice thing is with it weighing so much less, it’s so much fun to throw around; more so than a liter bike
The 07 zx6r is a slug compared to the 03 06 636 zx6r
I've owned 3 636's. A newer 2015 and two 06's. They are by far the best 600 I have ever ridden. I might be a little biased but they are hands down the best bang for your buck.
I have a 97 bandit 1200 and i love the fact that you mentioned it in this list not bery many people talk about them id love to see you do a video on older pre 2000 bikes
1250 here. It weighs a metric ton but still beats most stuff including many motorcycles at the lights
I got into this channel because i bought an 02 Bandit 1200s a month ago, you've really taught me a ton of stuff and ive been riding on the street since 1996 at 17. My second bike in 2007 was a YZF600R and it was my first "sport bike" and i was a squid for sure living in Norfolk and VA beach, not the navy type either. I accidentally wheelied the 600R multiple times but haven't popped up the Bandit 1200s yet, not trying to, but its definitely an amazing bike. Its came to me upgraded with everything Dale Walker related (5*timing, full exhaust, stage 2 jets with KN pods) and pushing 130hp and 80 ft./lbs supposedly plus A corny round scooter tail box and 18k miles all for 2K. Threw some new Road pilot 4 GTs on it and have been happier than i have been in over a decade, thanks for helping me remember my first love. Almost 1200 miles in under a month and i only come home to love on my dog and get him outside, license test tomorrow!! Better go study. I want a Papa Yams sticker, do you sell them? With the old yam face and beard/glasses? Ill go look but wanted to ask.
As an owner of a zx6r, tuned with full akrapovic it is considerably more powerful than most of my riding buddies 600s. Yamaha seems to be a little more torquey on the bottom but once the bikes hit 10k my zx pulls off. I also can pull second gear wheelies at 100+, they cant get the front end up after 80-85.
2nd gear is max 70mph no way possible is it 100mph +
@@chrishoonbag8844 lol
@@chrishoonbag8844 probably means kmph
That max is based on numbers of factory sprockets, it's pretty easy to go over 100mph with smaller sprockets on
@@chrishoonbag8844 idk about the ninja but my r6 will do 100 in first and like 120 -130 in second so I don't know where your getting that it only does 70 in second lmao
You know the funny thing is I just bought a 2008 Triumph Daytona 675 and I was nervous if I made the right choice but this video made me feel better about it. Now I know mines not an “R” but it’s got the same motor so I’m still pretty happy
Picked up my new 636 two days ago, so far loving it. Very comfortable for a supersport. The only criticisms I have is it gets hot quick (it's winter here in Sydney) and the led headlights seem to be less effective around town than my other bike's halogens.
Try changeing the thermostat,might be faulty..Seeing you also dont go below zero in your winter,try either engine ice or watter wettef and distilled water....Make sure you bone up on house to do a good flush before change coolant..Dump factory rubber hoses and get some hoses from samco..By far better product..
@@craig_sez8534 thanks, I'll look into that. 1st service is in a few months, should be plenty time to order stuff in.
@@avi8r944 Still under warranty so get it looked after asap..
@@craig_sez8534 will do, thanks.
@@avi8r944 I would still consider (if available to you over in aussy land)Engine ice,or diluted water with a mix of water wetter..Google both to see what fits your needs but do it after kawi takes a look and decides..
In 2011 I bought my first bike. It was a 600…. My specifically it was a 2011 Red Daytona 675.
I fell in love with that bike. I can’t sell it… it just sit in my garage under a cover.
The engine is so forgiving, the exhaust note is intoxicating, and the chassis… well… the chassis has a split personality. If you push the envelope it will love you, care for you, and reassure you. If you just take it out for a slow leisurely ride, it will try to kill you.
636 2005/2006 model is said (by kawasaki)to produce 130.5 hp with ram air working fully. Stock. 187kg wet weight. It’s a beast!
Had that bike and it was a badass.
Loving my ZX-6R. A lot more difficult to ride than my Harley. But it's been a lot of fun practicing on it every day!
Get techspec tank grips, makes a big difference in your ability to hold on. More comfort = more confidence
@@zacharybillow8550 thanks for the suggestion!
Rising everyday? You must live in Cali
Yammie, thanks for mentioning the Yamaha Thundercat, learned a lot on that bike. Was my first bike, and loved it. But my Gixxer 1000-K6, is so much better.
My grandma rides one of them backwards through corn fields on Good Friday through the kingdom Hall inverted 6 times
Well I can confidently say I’ve been called out by yammie noob 3 times in one video now, being the guy who started on a Bandit 600 doing top speed runs in a Tshirt on the highway...
That’s okay I still love you
I started my journey this year on a bandit 600, 2001, but I'm not doing top speed runs, yet 0.0
The cbr600f4i shown at 12:20 was the predecessor to the cbr600rr not the 650f. They sold so well honda kept them in production yrs after the 600rr was introduced. I owned a 2002 sport model with the split seat. Great bikes.
Man the cbrf4i was my first bike I did a spocket change and yeah for the first 4 seconds I was the fastest.
636 IS A BEAST🔥🔥🔥
design is copy of yamaha's r1
@Police Corruption you noobs need to know that cc doesnt decide the speed or torque
even harley and indian motorcyles are more than 1000cc but those motobikes cant even catch up a duke250
@Police Corruption by 1000cc ever heard of y2k🤣🤣
try a turbine engine powered bike then youll know the real suicidal machine
Just get an R1!
@@jonathansinclair3388 dude it's a mighty R1 not a chips packet 😂😂 that anyone can afford it
Triumph makes the best bikes ever.
My 96 sprint 900 is everything I need.
picked up a 98 thundercat for $400 with no fairings chopped the tail turning it into a street fighter definitely cut some weight off , stage 3 kit , shorty exhaust and a stage 3 kit , it's a little monster really fun to ride and the front wheel likes to come up
My 2021 ninja 650 is amazing, went on a group ride and easily kept up with everyone else on 1000 cc upward bikes. Handles like a dream ❤️
Those baggers don't do well in the corners.
Bought a used 2007 ninja 650 last month and it still keeps up with 1000s! Lovely bikes!
@Police Corruption What road in the United States has a speed limit of 193 mph? Sure, on a track you'll beat a 650 any day, but I'm talking about practical applications like on a highway where a group ride might consist of speeds of 80-90 mph.
I really like the Ninja 650 (looks and ergos) but the lawnmower sound IL2 engines make is a huge turnoff. Here's to hoping Kawasaki will release a CP2 version like Yamahaa's MT-07...
@@maluinthe90s depends who you ride with 😏.. If you're with a bunch of 1000cc super bikes i guarantee they'll go 90 mph for like 10sec spurts.. and the rest of the trip will be 130+.
5:55 literally bought one last week, your channel introduced me to 675 and man is she a beauty
after crushing a monster energy drink i threw on a tank top and took my 2019 zx6r out on the highway and hit 175mph
I knew the older ones were faster…. I’ve only gotten my ‘21 to 143 😩
@@yuhyuhtheindigo7085 is it Tuned? Flash ECU?
@@godzeus9702 bone stock at the moment. Full akro exhaust, flash and tune coming before the end of the season
@@yuhyuhtheindigo7085 oh nice those zx6r are nice and fast. I have a hard time deciding a R6 or ZX6r or completely opposite and get a naked bike.
@@godzeus9702 yeah I came from a street triple. I’m 30 next month and knew if I didn’t get a sport bike this time that I probably never would
Ian R Crane was a leader in bring us into the light about thr dark goings on RIP Ian
I've got a 650 bandit for everyday use. its bomb proof, fast enough, and cheap as chips. so a great workhorse. 👍
got a 600 and its never done me wrong they take any and all abuse
I bought my first bike, a 02 YZF600R, with 4000 miles for 1800 bucks. It was a great first bike and recommend to anyone that doesn't mind dealing with carbs
This guy condrudicts himself in every video. TH-cam smart guy❤
thats just how these TH-cam boobs roll i guess
Moved up from a ninja 400 2 weeks ago to the zx6r. I only started on kawasaki because they had a really good starter bike I had no clue the zx6r reached 175. Regardless I love kawasaki and the way they do things.
Got my first bike 2 months ago, 2001 Yamaha YZF600r. Stoked it made the honorable mentions lol!
This is the type of content that makes Yammie the one true Papa Noob. Does all the research for us, hilarious but fair and true presentation that even those that are being made fun of would agree with!
He didn't do much research if he thinks that a 600 will do 175mph... lol
@@SquireSCA cheater 636cc but most I ever got from my R6 was 160
@@radgeh5924 Indicated, or GPS verified?
@@SquireSCA definitely indicated
@@radgeh5924 Yeah, that makes sense. If it's a later model, that translates to low to mid 150's actual. Still plenty fast...
I have been riding on the street since the mid 1990's, and owned 28 bikes in that time... done around 350k miles on street and track, and I am constantly amazed by how many people make wild claims, and simply don't know that much about the bikes that they own...
Not you necessarily, just in general...
600's are amazing bikes and supremely capable on the street and track. But they are not high top speed monsters... To push through the air you need solid aero, and most of all, POWER.
The faster you go, the more the air pushes back, so the more power you need to go faster, which then has the air pushing back even more, etc...
It's why Bugatti had to add 200hp, just to get the Veyron to go another 7mph. 200hp, for 7mph...
Upgraded a couple weeks ago from the ninja 400 to zx6r
Love it
I'm continually blown away by the fact that new 600's still can't keep up with my 17 year old gsxr 750, that I bought dirt cheap several years ago. 145hp stock, 64 lb-ft tq, 426# (or whatever) wet. 75k on the motor, losing compression, still spanking bikes on the mountain and at the track that cost 5x-15x what I paid for her every weekend that I'm free to ride. Guess that modern production ICE bikes are near their max potential limit...
It's called torque. A 750 always has more of it than any 600. 600s have more HP and weigh less than older models, but they still don't have the torque. Liter bikes from 20 years ago are still faster than 600s and 750s because of... torque.
@NHH223 emissions and torque. you still have more HP than most modded 600s as well
9:45 I started on a R6 and I have yet to go over 8k. It is doable if your ACTUALLY responsible. No regrets. Best bike ever.
First mod on a gsxr should be flashing the computer to keep the secondary throttle plate open more than 20% through the power band... Factory tune only gives full throttle potential in 2nd and part of third... Very annoying considering it does have a A/b mode for bad road conditions and such. Just my opinion.
All the manufactures do it..Woolich raceing makes a "flash your own bike" kit..
For 3 years I had been daily commuting with a Inazuma 250, until months ago when it was stolen and burnt. I had to buy a new bike in a hurry as there are no transports to my work. Found a nice dealer and got a Bandit GSF 600 S 2002. I love it despite the carbs. I cracked hard when you said it's got 2 wheels, engine, goes and stops.
@12:37.... "It's got 2 wheels, it's gotta engine, it goes and stops!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 instant classic quote!!!
Listening to you talk about the gsxr’s had me 😂😂😂
id love to see you do an episode with a 1250 bandit, they are a simple and amazingly fun bike
I may or may not have seen one do 236km/h (~146 mph) on a freeway
I think the best 600cc super bike is a 2004-05 Suzuki gsx-r 600cc and it’s very impressive bc my 04 gsx-r topped out at 186-187 mph and it only had a slip-on and power Commander and it had 110-115hp
It was always between an r6 and a zx6 for me. Finally traded in my 13 zx6 for a 21 zx6 in April then immediately hear the r6 is dead. I really hate the r7 function wise, but I get that the person who wants an in-line 4 isn’t gonna be the kind of person who wants an r7.
I am sad to hear about the death of the R6 and the R7 doesn't even gets onto the list. I am soo glad I picked up a 20 Zx6r KRT
@everyday tenorwell then it’s a good thing you aren’t interested in buying a 2022 r6.
Happy going from my 2020 Ninja 400, to my 2021 ZX6R, it's beautiful, so so happy with my 2nd bike.
Speed is a funny thing, you get so used to it and crave more. I know ill have a liter bike or a damn H2 someday.
@@M82Predator enjoy your 6R. I've only had 900 and 1000 cc bikes, including ZX9R and my current ZX10R. They're honestly way more power than you can ever use on the street. It's almost pointless. But I'm addicted to speed and acceleration so I can't help it.
I loved 600s until i jumped in to a 1000cc.. the difference in power and torque is a lot.. i dont see myself getting a 600 unless is a cheap deal
Same!
I love my zx6r but I have the 06 with the undertail exhaust its beautiful my friends
How about a video about good bikes for tall people?
Being 6'2" myself it is usually a bit cramped, and I am sure there are more with this problem.
Love your vids, keep up the good work.
Can’t go wrong with the KTM Dukes! I’m 5’7” and am always on tippy toes when sitting on my 390 Duke. Lol
The overall hight isn't usually the problem, but rather the psition of the pegs causing my my knees to be bend so they hurt after like an hour of riding, but thanks though 🙌
Have a look at sport touring bikes. Im 6'6" and bought a cbr1100xx blackbird for that reason. I've also added lowering pegs and bar risers and its quite comfortable. Also the vfr800s are amazing machines
Right there with you brother, but at high speed who cares lol
You may not like them but busa/zx14 are the most comfortable sportbikes made for big/tall guys. Or go to adv bikes.. or harleys..
Happy memories of my first bike a bandit 600. So slow compared to the other bikes listed but boy, it felt fast at the time!
Found an incredible Zx6 2005 with 60.000 miles for 2.500 euros in Greece and I fell in love… I’m really thinking to get it soon .
As a ZX6R owner I skipped to the end, and wasn't disappointed.
As another zx6r owner, I was not surprised lol. But I got a 2008, just love the look of the undertail exhaust 🤙
Same just bought my 2022 Zx-6r
@@elijaharellano7041 fr?, as what are you working as tht you can afford that?, if I may ask
@@nco1798 trappin goes a long way
I have a suggestion - given your audience, content creation etc. Plan a 3 week visit to the isle of man. That would be during practice week, and then the 2 weeks of the TT. Take a crew so its a working holiday. But think you'd find it one of the most rewarding and interesting trips of a lifetime and a treasure trove for content creation and stuff to cap and film.
Yesss! Nice to see the old cat get a shout out. I love my thundercat, fantastic bike with amazing brakes
Yup. I have one. Heavy beast, great breaks. I've been told that they are the ones from the thunderace the 1000cc counterpart
I have a Thundercat too! Relatively quick for a 600cc bike and super comfortable to ride. Theyre dirt cheap too, got mine under 2k€ and its running perfectly
@@Tombbv just over 50k miles on mine now, never lets me down
@@adidoney1505 Mine hit 50k miles/80k kilometres just last week! Probably adjusting valves during winter but otherwise no problems occurred
The Yamaha R6 sounds SO SMOOTH, even tone deep grumble sound. It sounds the most harmonically pleasing deep grumble I have heard.
Sounds like a true and proper Sports Bike.
I've owned a ZX-6R they do not do 175 miles an hour I don't know where you got that information from. That would be faster than a GSXR 750 truth be told they get up to 162 to 165 miles an hour indicated so basically the 157 most mentioned in reality. The power drops off too fast past the power Peak so it cannot pull Redline in Top Gear
What your saying seems more along the lines of correct compared to what he was saying. I've seen numerous videos of newer 636's topping out at 165 & several at 168 and the video by way of title or answering comments said the bike was stock. So more than likely a GPS would say 160 if I had to guess. I've seen 155 and still climbing on a ZX-6E10 or just ZX-6 2002 model and that bike is really old. Wiki say's that bike's top speed is 154.00 and another website said it was 145?
I had a 2006 R6 a few years ago, all i did to it was a race air filter and a funnel exhaust (looked like a funnel with no baffle) would pull an indicated 285km or 177 freedom tickets.
I love my thundercat! Mine is a 98 but I kept right up with an 07 r6.
I am with you on the T cat it's a ride all day missile, was speaking to a guy who races and he said T cat lap times on circuits would place mid pack with today's bikes
Just bought a 2021 ZX6R and I love it!
I have a full M4 exhaust for sell if your interested
Not gonna lie... I'd like you to lecture me about MV Augusta and why I'll never own a single model from them... Because I'm a big boy.
It's like buying an Rx8 if you know what i mean, you'll end up spending more then you bought it due to bad reliability
@@guy654 my fathers mv is turning 17 years now whilst having 70.000km on it
I'm so proud I got a 21 zx6r and that it's # 1. I love my bike, and I would never trade it
Just thought I would point out that the YZF600R was NOT based on the old R6. The release order went FZR600, YZF600R, and then the R6.
Came down to the comments to see if anyone else had caught this. Indeed It's the other way around, first gen R6 was based on the YZF600R in so far as it had the same base engine as the Thundercat just tuned differently to produce a bit more power. Also as an extra bit of trivia the first gen R1 used the Thundercat brakes.
Missed out the suzuki gsx650f which is basically a full race faired bandit with a tuned engine 85bhp top end 130. Production ended in 2012 but can puck one up in the uk for about 2k
Been laughing all through the episode, Yammie is awesome
I wish I could have done the same but my wifi is so darn slow 😂
Those RS660 power numbers are very impressive considering all the liquid cooled 750cc cruisers that put out LESS torque and still less than half the hp.
Yammie really attacked me in this one. My name is Kyle and I own a gsxr
Well then, get to Kyleing, Kyle!
I've got a 08 GsxR 600 with an exhaust, intake, new chain, and sprockets I've hit 175 on the track. Take THAT! Daytona boy! Also I always wear my gear, so I'm a rare sight on a GsxR
Suzuki
@@lishakalijee1190 yes
My 95 CBR600F3 can still keep up with the bikes on this list and doesn’t have computer nannies to get in the way
Hell yeah Scott! As a Honda simp myself with both an F2 and F4 (want an F3 too,lol), they are just terrific motorcycles that stand the test of time. Where were going, we don't need "rider control" That's us!!! Hope it's either of us that wins the Fireblade bruh!!!! Should go to a TRUE Honda Boi that will actually be able to ride it, in true appreciation of the family lineage.... Fingers crossed for you too Scott!!!
@@ringsoffire5947 You know it brother!
I am supreamly sad you didnt mention the fz6 which makes the bandit look slow. 599cc 98hp 46 ft lbs toques and a top speed of 142 mph i ride one and love it. It hauls balls and can be comohey for a long ride
It's not A CBR650F It's A CBR650R
(at the end Of the video)
My old gsxr600 k1 with power commander was dyno remapped to 108bhp did 163mph flat out :)
For anyone looking at a thundercat look at fzr600 it's 1 generation earlier and if you put thundercat pistons and barrels on it (straight swap) you'll get 105hp at the wheels ish and 13.2:1 compression makes them a rocket ship
Is that the 600R or the early genesis? I have a magazine somewhere where someone got the two FZR engines and did something similar, it gave it a few more cc's. Personally I'd just get the FZR600R and forget the heavy Thundercat, it's a lighter, better bike and will do 155mph stock anyway. Has the bonus of looking like a YZF750R too with the foxeye lights, it is the true predecessor of the R6.
ThunderCat was a fantastic bike! I miss mine. I called I an R6 with a banana seat.
Best 600 to buy is a Yamaha r6 made in 2007 to 2008… i’ve got one and it comes with 133bhp stock..
Green for life! Kawi life!
I used to do finance at a massive used motorcycle shop. I have seen PLENTY of grenaded GSX-R600 motors. Our service contract paid for quite a few of them!
02:36 = Nah bruh... i test top speed broad daylite with traffic... in a t shirt, gotta video to prove it... my top speed on my r6 tops out at 160 to 168.. depending on wind, up hill downhill..
You say the older six hundreds are not as ugly! Nailed it.
Well, those articles about the Honda CBR600RR being discontinued aged well. I currently own a 2021 CBR600RR. lol
Have you owned an older model? If so how did it compare
I started on a proper 600 starter bike in the FZ6R! Wanted an R6 but went with the detuned version with better ergo lol.
Looking for this comment !! That’s my first bike too! Been riding for a month. I love it
@@dakotajohnson9230 That's awesome!! I loved mine as well. Be safe out there!
Super Bike Racer (SBR) on R6 vs ZX6R or even 1000cc.
I have a CBR600RR. It’s my first bike (and vehicle in general) and it’s lovely! It rips, fast in corners compared to 1000cc. And not only have I been on track with it, I’ve ONLY been on track with it, since there’s still 6 YEARS till I can get my drivers license😢
6 years?!!!? how old are you??? 😂
This made me want to get on my worlds most dangerous 600 and blast through the rain after pounding loads of Red Bull and watching my hero Marc Marquez high side videos.
You left out earbuds blasting dubstep lmao
@@williamhancock9345 *turns down Skrillex Bangarang😳
I own a 2012 street triple r which people seem to not like but I say they haven’t ridden it. So much fun
I loved my 636. Even more then my current Gixxer 1k. The ergos were fairly comfortable at least for my size. I could pull 6 hour rides and feel pretty good.I plan on buying another one eventually just to throw around. I'm partial to plasma blue tho.
What is your height and weight if I may ask?
@@wilwayneco.3644 I'm 6ft tall about 180lbs. Fit me very well.
I toured on my R6 riding up to 8 hours a day with luggage, no problem. I'm 5'6" and weighed 140lbs at the time. All bikes pretty much fit me, the only ones I don't get on with are old dinosaurs like GPz900's which weigh a ton and everything just seems hard work on. The FZ750 from the same era works really well though, fit some modern wheels and tyres they handle really well.
You got me into ridding and it was the best descion of my life
My precious shammy pubes, can you please put the stats in non freedom units also ? I can live with you just reading the footpound and miles but id love to know what you are even talking about😅
My old zx6r would soon wind in many other 600s that got away quicker of the mark, the older 600s just seem more robust then the newer models but I like them all.
Damn it. I’m a friggin Kyle! 😢 💚
Maybe instead of top speed, redo with the best low to mid range torque for canyon carving. Thanks.
Very informative video, really appreciate your thoughts and inputs. Wanted a bike for years when I was younger(20-25ish) was dead set on a 600. 35 now looking to get into riding thought about a 600 again. But leaning towards a 400 now
The 400 will be good until you go out with your friends on 600's. An ER6 or SV650 would be a good bike to get the rust off and it will keep up in a group as long as the riding is relatively sensible. It's what I'll go with if I start riding again, I'm 45, a 400 twin would get left for dead by both of my cars which cost peanuts so pointless for me. Shamefully riders are so slow these days I can keep up with most bikes on the corners. If I get another bike and I'm that slow that I can't outrun cars I will sell it straight away and get rid of my leathers. My cars are 2 decade old sheds, admittedly one has been used on trackdays and is well setup but even so it's nowhere near as capable as a bike. Doing the corners in a road car you have done on a bike is like going in slow motion.
I would just go with the 636 or other 600. Most 2 cylinders do not have enough power to warrant a sport bike setup. There are more comfortable bikes with similar power.
I am leaving my 2020CBR 500 r for a 600 Kawasaki. The Honda is a really comfortable commuter bike. But that is it . I have put 5000 miles on it in four months. Great starter bike but the affair is over. I plan on telling her in the morning.
Earned that like as soon as he realized everyone was testing the top speed on the highway late at night
Hahaha I loved the easter egg of the Big Bandit. Words don't do them justice. They truly are The Hooligan Express.
I fucking love how the r6's power hits suddenly at 10
thats when the fun starts and the guys start hangin' their lips.
Well y'all the VFR does that at around 7K RPM. And then gets WILD after................. and oh that quad valve exhaust note..............yummy.
I have a 99 f4 and it does 157-58 carbed and will power wheelie can prove. But older bikes get no reconditioned lol
For the price of a 765 id rather get a 1000
675♡
Props yammy
That was the best way to plug your sponser ever
Great job dude
Love your vids
Me : these look cool
Wallet : slow down buckaroo! Best I can do is a Vespa 150
Me : 🥲
Would love a in depth vid on either the Kawi Ninja H2r or the Ducati panigale v4....or combine them both into a vid seeing as they are prolly the two fastest production bikes on the streets rn....could be wrong but would still be sick....pleasee for me!!!!! Lmao
Have an 06 600rr for my first bike and I love it