An excellent approach to cutting the propeller. Love the DVF's simultaneous five-axis machining capabilities. Saves set-up, fixturing, and cycle times cutting from all sides in one set-up.
I've always thought it was best to rough with several 3+2 positions then do your final passes with full 5. The reason being when all 5 axis are are moving simultaneously, the setup is less rigid than when locked in position with 3+2. Is this not the case?
Your correct, 90% of the time. Also depends on the machine as some are faster and more rigid than others. In this case, we have a good machine and we’re using a great KOR-5 tool in soft aluminum. Whe part is round and has fins etc which… if you did 3+2… to clean up the bottom, you would have to run this or a similar path anyways… so hey, get it done. Also, this was a video created to teach you guys the tool path. Great Job Jessie🙏🤙😁
It looks like there is a tiny stall as the trunnion tilts during the swarf path? Is the program outrunning the machine’s look ahead ability? Or can something like that be dialed in on the post? Full 5A is a little outside of what we do, so forgive the basic question.
I've had that problem on swarf cuts when I had my path resolution set incorrectly and the post would generate thousands of lines of code to move just a tiny fraction along a constrained path. Pretty simple thing to overlook.
I couldn't get the lead-in angle perfect with the part so it is having to go from one angle to another in a very short distance at 305ipm. I could have spent a little more time on it and perfected it but it wasn't that much of a move so I didn't worry about it. Your question is not a basic question. It is a very good question and what you see there is often one of the hardest things about programming on a 5 axis. You can easily get toolpath on a part but getting it to be smooth with no jerking or unnecessary motion is the difficult part.
When you bring in your solidmodel, do you have to transform/ translate it to line up with where the top WCS is in mastercam or can you get away with creating a new work offset on the feature you want it on wherever the solid models ends up dropping in at? It been a minute since I have worked in mastercam.
Where can I learn CNC machining process... learning how to give commands to machine to operate....I have a doubt....if i design a product in CREO. How can I make that design to be manufactured as a product by machine?...
This is definitely high level programming and machining. There's probably only a handful of people watching that have a grasp on what you're doing..lol.
For family reasons Stuart had to move back to California… but we still talk and he will always be part of the team. He is a supervisor at a CNC Shop in Nor-Cal
Yes you could have saved a couple minutes if you did this part on the Doosan Millturn by roughing the outside profile with a turning tool instead of the mill like I did.
Some would consiser the oart finished after the first operation and taken it with them to bedroom for whole different application. 🤣🤣🤣 But nonetheless a very complicated nice milling operation !!
Nice programing, the harmonics will give more trouble if just chuck the part with very little to grab on.looks l Iike 1/8 or so on the jaws.soft metal now but tough or hard metals ,more trouble. Just saying
Не пойму, нафига делать из целой болванки деталь, переведя 70-90 процентов материала в стружку. Можно же было сделать черновую отливку, было бы более экономичнее и быстрее.
I've never coded 5th axis. Our shop doesn't have one. Don't the powers that be understand that this effects my man hood in the machining world? Naa... I like my swiss. Set and forget baby...
I feel sorry for all shops that are missing out on the ease of 5 axis. I was always scared of them before we got one but after I started programming them I wondered why anyone would ever buy a 3 axis again lol. Swiss is another machine that amazes me. I am all for the set and forget mentality as well!
I've always thought it was best to rough with several 3+2 positions then do your final passes with full 5. The reason being when all 5 axis are are moving simultaneously, the setup is less rigid than when locked in position with 3+2. Is this not the case?
There is some truth to that being less rigid because both the tilting and rotary axes are not clamped but there is nothing saying you can’t rough this way. It just depends on what you are doing and this being aluminum there isn’t much concern for the rigidity. That being said, yes I always will try to use 3+2 toolpaths whenever possible for both Roughing and finishing. Some of the reason being rigidity but mainly because with 3+2 toolpaths you get the option to use cutter comp. You CAN put 3d cutter comp on simultaneous toolpaths but most people don’t buy the option and it is difficult to get a post to support it properly.
Great explanation of the programming! The fact that you can come to TH-cam and get high level knowledge like that for free, is insane!
An excellent approach to cutting the propeller. Love the DVF's simultaneous five-axis machining capabilities. Saves set-up, fixturing, and cycle times cutting from all sides in one set-up.
Love the educational videos! Nice job Jessie!
Thanks Shanie!
Best video of this channel yet
Love the dynamic path between the fins!
Fantastic programming video! My favorite machinist to watch!
Maybe I could return the favor and watch you have dinner with me later 😘
This is a fantastic video. Great job going into the program with great explanations
As a fisherman and machinist, that’s pretty dang cool 👍🏻
Nice job Jessie!
I love how early in the morning Titan post his videos.
Thanks nice to see the programing strategies inside of Mastercam
I've always thought it was best to rough with several 3+2 positions then do your final passes with full 5. The reason being when all 5 axis are are moving simultaneously, the setup is less rigid than when locked in position with 3+2. Is this not the case?
Your correct, 90% of the time. Also depends on the machine as some are faster and more rigid than others.
In this case, we have a good machine and we’re using a great KOR-5 tool in soft aluminum. Whe part is round and has fins etc which… if you did 3+2… to clean up the bottom, you would have to run this or a similar path anyways… so hey, get it done. Also, this was a video created to teach you guys the tool path.
Great Job Jessie🙏🤙😁
Loved this video more than the new Spiderman movie.... granted I haven't seen a Spiderman movie since Spiderman 3
So much inspiration from watching his videos 👍
This is a crazy amount of very nice information thanks. ToCM🇺🇸
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching
Awesome video programming explanation enlightening.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it
@@Jessie_Smith is this model available for download.I can’t find in online.love it this machining.
THANKS FOR THE TUTORIAL JESSIE!
What if the tool coner radius and the wall coner radius are different when creating a swap toolpath?
Amazing Content As Always Jessie !👌👌
6061good grade + shrink fit tooling spot on Jessie , toolpath cutter @ optimal performance, great success. Titan keep on keeping on
Awsome like always.BOOM💥💥
Toolpath are super amazing 🤩👍🏻👍🏻
Easy to follow.. nice video. Thank you
Excelent video. Thanks!
Thanks sir because of you I am learning machanical engineering. 🙋♂️🙋♂️
Love this content!
Any way you guys can do a quick video on the explanation of working planes. Such as the diffrence between an x,y and a y,z?
Is this model available for download? Can’t find it on the website. Thanks for the video!
It looks like there is a tiny stall as the trunnion tilts during the swarf path? Is the program outrunning the machine’s look ahead ability? Or can something like that be dialed in on the post? Full 5A is a little outside of what we do, so forgive the basic question.
The trunnion simply needs to change the angle before it can proceed cutting
Yes. I noticed that too.
I've had that problem on swarf cuts when I had my path resolution set incorrectly and the post would generate thousands of lines of code to move just a tiny fraction along a constrained path. Pretty simple thing to overlook.
I couldn't get the lead-in angle perfect with the part so it is having to go from one angle to another in a very short distance at 305ipm. I could have spent a little more time on it and perfected it but it wasn't that much of a move so I didn't worry about it. Your question is not a basic question. It is a very good question and what you see there is often one of the hardest things about programming on a 5 axis. You can easily get toolpath on a part but getting it to be smooth with no jerking or unnecessary motion is the difficult part.
Some serious work holding there.
If you make solas ones then I have one of your parts on my waverunner
When you bring in your solidmodel, do you have to transform/ translate it to line up with where the top WCS is in mastercam or can you get away with creating a new work offset on the feature you want it on wherever the solid models ends up dropping in at? It been a minute since I have worked in mastercam.
You can create a new one wherever the model drops in at
Nice tool paths!!
Больше, больше, больше таких видео!!!!!!!
Great explanation . i like it
What workhding are you using? It looks like a SCHUNK 80-130 or 125-160 with machines grip jaws on a riser.
Just a guess. Let me know, thanks!
It is a Schunk SKQ 80/125 riser and KSC125-160 self centering vise.
Amazing what can be done.
Great Video 👌👌
One of these days I will get in to full 5 axis...
Where can I learn CNC machining process... learning how to give commands to machine to operate....I have a doubt....if i design a product in CREO. How can I make that design to be manufactured as a product by machine?...
Academy.titansofcnc.com
Go to school
This is definitely high level programming and machining. There's probably only a handful of people watching that have a grasp on what you're doing..lol.
What was the total cycle time for this part? It seems like it would be short.
Awesome
what is the program you are using?
I don't think that plane is gonna be very fast if it gets off the ground at all!
Great video Thank you!
How about under water? Titan made a number of deep sea ROV parts over the years. 😄
Funny dude.
Does Stuart still work with yall? We havent seen much of him lately.
For family reasons Stuart had to move back to California… but we still talk and he will always be part of the team. He is a supervisor at a CNC Shop in Nor-Cal
Why don't I have unified? I am using Mastercam 2021. Is that tool path where you get the axis substitution?
New for 2022
What is this propeller being used on?
I would prefer to reverse the dynamic multiaxis pocket to push towards the fixturing.
This part on the 9 axis Doosan Lathe? Does this get a lower runtime?
Yes you could have saved a couple minutes if you did this part on the Doosan Millturn by roughing the outside profile with a turning tool instead of the mill like I did.
If that falls off the vice, is it basically impossible to fix??
obvi nvm. you simply cant add metal if messed up
How do you hold the part to finish the back side?
It was around 15 minutes total. I could have gotten more aggressive if I were able to run coolant
Can you load the 3d pls so we can try
Where is the "Oh Man, lets make it happen Boom Machine" 😉😎
Nice
Some would consiser the oart finished after the first operation and taken it with them to bedroom for whole different application. 🤣🤣🤣
But nonetheless a very complicated nice milling operation !!
yes it has been very difficult to keep Barry from taking it home with him 😂
Cool
Boom
do the impeller please
Die Flügel würde ich auf einer 5 Achsmaschine machen aber vorher ein Drehteil....
considering that's a new machine, that paint hasn't lasted 5 mins
Never does
4+1 axis simültane milling
Watching this from HTX while my machine powers up
Nice programing, the harmonics will give more trouble if just chuck the part with very little to grab on.looks l Iike 1/8 or so on the jaws.soft metal now but tough or hard metals ,more trouble. Just saying
Program is running without coolant so the viewers can see the cut and chips coming off… With coolant it sounds and runs beautiful.
Thanks
Jet Pump
Не пойму, нафига делать из целой болванки деталь, переведя 70-90 процентов материала в стружку. Можно же было сделать черновую отливку, было бы более экономичнее и быстрее.
There is no way it is economical to make a casting or forging to make one part. If you had thousands of parts to make then yes but not for one part
Great video but seems really wasteful to make a propeller this way unless its a custom piece 1 of 1.
I wish I were a young man again.
Please cut out the high frequency audio
I've never coded 5th axis. Our shop doesn't have one. Don't the powers that be understand that this effects my man hood in the machining world?
Naa... I like my swiss. Set and forget baby...
I feel sorry for all shops that are missing out on the ease of 5 axis. I was always scared of them before we got one but after I started programming them I wondered why anyone would ever buy a 3 axis again lol.
Swiss is another machine that amazes me. I am all for the set and forget mentality as well!
After some time a five axis is the same.. set and forget.
The big difference tho is that 5 axis machining will always look interesting
Love the hillbilly accent!
That doesn’t look like any propeller I’ve seen
Maybe they meant "impeller".
I think it's for moving through fluid.... that is, fluid denser than air.
What was supposed to be insane in that video? It's normal and basic 5 axis machining.
whats insane here?:D
Madha goweda subject talk pain
I've always thought it was best to rough with several 3+2 positions then do your final passes with full 5. The reason being when all 5 axis are are moving simultaneously, the setup is less rigid than when locked in position with 3+2. Is this not the case?
There is some truth to that being less rigid because both the tilting and rotary axes are not clamped but there is nothing saying you can’t rough this way. It just depends on what you are doing and this being aluminum there isn’t much concern for the rigidity. That being said, yes I always will try to use 3+2 toolpaths whenever possible for both Roughing and finishing. Some of the reason being rigidity but mainly because with 3+2 toolpaths you get the option to use cutter comp. You CAN put 3d cutter comp on simultaneous toolpaths but most people don’t buy the option and it is difficult to get a post to support it properly.
@@Jessie_Smith good info, thanks for such a detailed response.